Oh, one more request! It would be great to do a comparison of MODERN equipment for beginners. Mark V and the Stiga Allround Classic still get recommended to beginners even though they were designed for the 38 mm ball in the 1960s and don’t perform well with the plastic balls. Let’s see how modern beginner rubber (Xiom Vega Intro, Yasaka Rigan) with modern Allround blades (Stiga Azalea, Xiom Allround S) compare to the classics. So many beginners are scouring the internet to research the proper setup for their first bat. This would be very informative.
Bryan Young Exactly as I am away from table tennis more than 20years and get back but the sport has evolved dramatically with 40+ ball and tensor things (even I need to goggling hahaha) . I am now happy with Butterfly Hadraw SK (all woods easy to use of being Limba-Aeyous I guess) paired with DHS H3 (non neo - not boosted) and Heger Grip SFX
As someone who started playing with Mark V(Max), during the 40+ ball era, i honestly still think it is a very good choice. Sure, it doesn't have a lot of speed but that forces you to use your hips and weight transfer in your shots. I started playing with a Yasaka Silver All-wood with Mark V on both sides, i currently use DHS Skyline 2 Neo on my forehand and Friendship Battle 2 on my backhand
For straight up beginners just give them a 5 ply or 7 ply all wood blade with yasaka rakza 7, xiom vega, donic barracuda or butterfly rozena on both sides (whichever is cheaper, they are all the same). As they become more advanced, upgrade to the harimoto ALC. There is really no need for more speed than the innerforce, even Ma Long and Wang Chuqin still use innerforce blades. After that its just a technique and timing issue, not the blade. Once they get to intermediate advanced level you can start experimenting with tacky forehand rubbers like Hurricane 3 or dignics 09c, and butterfly rubbers like tenergy 05 or dignics 05 if you prefer the same rubber on both sides.
It's the same blade with a different handle... I guess the handle difference makes a minimum difference it's almost unnoticeable. I have both blades. Also de zjk alc it's the same.
Hi Dan, Thanks for the comparison as always with so much of details. People still believe. VISCARIA is the best. VISCARIA is also adapted by many Chinese and Japanese women team as Well. After the new launch of Lin Gaoyuan Alc, players are confused now to which one to pick. Kindly compare VISCARIA VS Lin Gaoyuan Alc in deatail comparison which will be helpful for all the subscribers. Thanks in advance🏓 & you are best in TT.
vishal wadhwa can viscaria be used by an intermediate player? I have 3 years of experience and I showed clips of my strokes to table tennis advisory on Instagram and he told me to get viscaria with rozena on fh and tenergy 80 on bh
Dear Dan, Please try to make a conclusion summary at the end of each comparison focusing on the main issues: Speed, Spin, Control, Blocking and Serving. Many Thanks.
I`m an intermediate player and i ordered the boll alc. my technique isn`t always consistent, but i have started to do shadow play drills to learn my strokes my muscle memory
Thanks a lot Dan for the comparison .. in fact I have ZJK ALC (similar to Timo Boll or Viscaria construction) and when you did the review on Harimoto blade I bought Hadraw SK (all woods with Limba & Aeyous - I guess) .. ZJK ALC stands out in serving (even with rubber like Mark V) also directness of its nature .. Hadraw SK is very good on the table and control department (the latter paired with DHS H3 Provincial + Andro Hexer Grip SFX) .. all above were based on personal views ya ..
I see many requests for many more comparisons with many blade types! I believe it may not be properly answered here. The focus is towards the new transition to woody feel with Limba outer layer(s) instead of Koto keeping the carbon sheet inner to have more feel and control shots. For example recently Dan has reviewed Donic Ovtcharov Ultra Senso 1 blade, which may represent the similar feeling like Harimoto ALC. There are many more examples like this.
can you compare butterfly innerforce style blades vs Andro Treiber FI which i think is Andros version of Innerforce with 2 layers of wood outside the carbon. i think you tried the Treiber FO with Damien Eloi but thats 1 layer of wood outside the carbon. hope you still have more time doing these reviews/comparisons
Hi Dan your videos are interesting but it would be good if you can review some new equipments like hurricane long 5 or xiom rubbers or darker blades rather than just looping butterfly blades
Quick question, what would you suggest for blade and rubbers for a new player - I'm a decent chop player out the gate. I've been playing around a month, VR, and at work with a friend. We are getting good fast! We can chop, and snake, and emulate pro players - good rallies... I can motion juggle so that helps - anyways bought the boll alc and a terngy 05 and a hard last night. I know I can get used to it... figure it won't hold me back too much in the long long run. BUT is it worth getting a max control, dwell, spin racket too. $2-400 is a good price point if someone could some blades and rubbers,, maybe the Harmoto ALC but figure there's something better for practice focus. - unless you think long term learning wont be TOO bad with pro setup. Thanks for any suggestions/thoughts.
Hi Dan, all woods blade please .. I knew that some top players still use all woods like Simon Gauzy, Hugo Calderano .. Butterfly has introduced Wenge (Hadraw VR & SR) likewise Andro with Wenge veneer (9 ply?)
Hello Dan, I know you get bucketfuls of review requests all the time, but it would be amazing if you did a dimitrij ovtcharov inner force alc blade review, I heard it’s like a mix of these two solid blades by butterfly? Thank you :)
Dan. I am still waiting for you too review the Dhs long series blade (malong blade). I will still wait until death hehe. Especially now there a new version that just come the Long 5x it would really if there like a comparison with w968 haha .
Hello! I am writing to you from Ukraine. I am a big fan of your work. You have played Butterfly Franziska Innerforce ZLC. This is my dream, but there is a war in our country. But we will believe in the future. Would you recommend the Butterfly Franziska Innerforce ZLC to an amateur or not. Is it possible to better Harimoto ALC. Thank you for attention.
I hope that you say abouth control is corect . My dilema is not yet finished and control is very important for me (hoby player) . Price is VERY high and harimoti is higher than timo 15-20 euro .no space for mistake.
Hi. I also have an AZXi and recently bought a Lin Gaoyuan ALC, similar to Boll ALC. I felt LG quicker but still controllable in middle distance shots, but you have to be very precise with your shots close to the table. The feeling with AZXi was not as good as I expected. ALC un one side and ZLC in the other side don't feel any different. What do you think? By the way, I've tried xiom, Tibhar and butterfly rubbers with similar results.
I use ZLC and I know Innerforce ALC quite a lot since my team mate uses it. I'm quite satisfied with ZLC for sometimes I feel like it lacks power at the top end when smashing or power looping. However, ALC is just a bit faster but has a more pleasant/woody feeling and softer than ZLC. So apart from the size and weight, is it HT quite faster than regular IF.ALC? I also would like to know the measurement of the FL handle and blade weight distribution (feels head heavy?)
Hey Dan, and also others! I've played for 7 years now, and I play six times a week. I have developed a lot as a player, and I play at a quite high level, although there's still a long, long way to the pro players. My question is, are these ALC blades too difficult to handle for a amateur player like me? Or should I go with another blade, for example, the Butterfly Petr Korbel. Thank you. :)
Hey man, I started played table tennis a couple months ago and play 4 times a week using a viscaria with tenergy 05 & developing very quickly. So you should have no problem at all using a ALC blade. Tried the harimoto blade and it's so forgiving and easy to use (and i'm buying it haha).
Hamza Mohamed Just more practice. Also if by reaction time you mean that you can’t reach the ball in time, try shortening your strokes. This’ll give you more time to react.
Oh, one more request!
It would be great to do a comparison of MODERN equipment for beginners. Mark V and the Stiga Allround Classic still get recommended to beginners even though they were designed for the 38 mm ball in the 1960s and don’t perform well with the plastic balls.
Let’s see how modern beginner rubber (Xiom Vega Intro, Yasaka Rigan) with modern Allround blades (Stiga Azalea, Xiom Allround S) compare to the classics.
So many beginners are scouring the internet to research the proper setup for their first bat. This would be very informative.
Bryan Young Exactly as I am away from table tennis more than 20years and get back but the sport has evolved dramatically with 40+ ball and tensor things (even I need to goggling hahaha) . I am now happy with Butterfly Hadraw SK (all woods easy to use of being Limba-Aeyous I guess) paired with DHS H3 (non neo - not boosted) and Heger Grip SFX
Use a Yinhe for the first blade can save you a lot of $$.
As someone who started playing with Mark V(Max), during the 40+ ball era, i honestly still think it is a very good choice. Sure, it doesn't have a lot of speed but that forces you to use your hips and weight transfer in your shots. I started playing with a Yasaka Silver All-wood with Mark V on both sides, i currently use DHS Skyline 2 Neo on my forehand and Friendship Battle 2 on my backhand
For straight up beginners just give them a 5 ply or 7 ply all wood blade with yasaka rakza 7, xiom vega, donic barracuda or butterfly rozena on both sides (whichever is cheaper, they are all the same). As they become more advanced, upgrade to the harimoto ALC. There is really no need for more speed than the innerforce, even Ma Long and Wang Chuqin still use innerforce blades. After that its just a technique and timing issue, not the blade. Once they get to intermediate advanced level you can start experimenting with tacky forehand rubbers like Hurricane 3 or dignics 09c, and butterfly rubbers like tenergy 05 or dignics 05 if you prefer the same rubber on both sides.
Butterfly: the Apple of Table Tennis
Ryan Hong then dhs must be huawei
Nah donic
Viraj Dadyal nope because no one really uses donic
@@hongrand it's a good brand though plus it works quite well for me and I also compete in regional tournaments
exept apple products are not that great and butterfly ones are used by most pros?
first the Supreme x Butterfly collab on the shelf, and now the racket sleeve on the right. Dan flexin' on us 😂
Boll ALC vs. Viscaria please! The discussion needs to end :D
I know I'm 3 years late, but Dan please compare TBS and BOLL ALC
@@davisbs999 basically the same blade
It's the same blade with a different handle... I guess the handle difference makes a minimum difference it's almost unnoticeable. I have both blades. Also de zjk alc it's the same.
Hi Dan,
Thanks for the comparison as always with so much of details. People still believe. VISCARIA is the best. VISCARIA is also adapted by many Chinese and Japanese women team as Well. After the new launch of Lin Gaoyuan Alc, players are confused now to which one to pick. Kindly compare VISCARIA VS Lin Gaoyuan Alc in deatail comparison which will be helpful for all the subscribers.
Thanks in advance🏓 & you are best in TT.
vishal wadhwa can viscaria be used by an intermediate player? I have 3 years of experience and I showed clips of my strokes to table tennis advisory on Instagram and he told me to get viscaria with rozena on fh and tenergy 80 on bh
Shrish S it’s 50-50 and also depends on the playing style. Still if you wana use then use medium soft rubbers to polish your skills.
@@vishalwadhwa7320 viscaria is much better lin gaoyuan is expensive and not famous among professional .
Great video. Also is that a supreme butterfly box in the back. That’s so cool.
Thanks Shiva, yeah that's a supreme box. Will do an unboxing on it sometime soon, it's pretty cool!
Thanks for the review! Nice summary.
I would like to see a comparison of hard sponge rubbers. Tenergy 05 hard / Rasanter R53 / Omega VII Tour / etc...
Dear Dan,
Please try to make a conclusion summary at the end of each comparison focusing on the main issues: Speed, Spin, Control, Blocking and Serving. Many Thanks.
would be great to compare it with the other buterfly innerforce blades, to see if is worth to take the Harimoto version or the regular inneforce ALC
*opens wallet*... * You looked here 5 minutes ago YOUR STILL BROKE*
Thanks for the great video! Could you please also review Timo Boll CAF blade?
Still would love to see a test or comparison for the ALC.S
I`m an intermediate player and i ordered the boll alc.
my technique isn`t always consistent, but i have started to do shadow play drills to learn my strokes my muscle memory
Boll packaging: functional
Harimoto packaging: SCREAMS AT YOU!!!!
Keep up the great work!!
Thanks a lot Dan for the comparison .. in fact I have ZJK ALC (similar to Timo Boll or Viscaria construction) and when you did the review on Harimoto blade I bought Hadraw SK (all woods with Limba & Aeyous - I guess) .. ZJK ALC stands out in serving (even with rubber like Mark V) also directness of its nature .. Hadraw SK is very good on the table and control department (the latter paired with DHS H3 Provincial + Andro Hexer Grip SFX) .. all above were based on personal views ya ..
Hi Dan, curious how Harimoto ALC compares to apolonia zlc as both seem to be similar in outer wood with key difference being ALC vs ZLC
It's just like innerforce AlC vs innerforce ZLC.
Love the work dan
Thanks for following Yizzy!
lin gaoyuan blade vs viscaria Please!
I think Yangyang Table Tennis channel did a review on LGY a couple weeks ago if you are really interested
It’s the same blade with a different handle and paint.
Lgy plays slightly softer. I like the handle more tho
Hi Dan, I'm really interested in seeing you and Tom testing the Joola Rossi Emotion PBO-c. Did you have planed to test it?
Hey Dan! Can you possibly make a comparison video on Dignics 05, 64 and 80 rubbers?
I see many requests for many more comparisons with many blade types! I believe it may not be properly answered here. The focus is towards the new transition to woody feel with Limba outer layer(s) instead of Koto keeping the carbon sheet inner to have more feel and control shots. For example recently Dan has reviewed Donic Ovtcharov Ultra Senso 1 blade, which may represent the similar feeling like Harimoto ALC. There are many more examples like this.
Can you Please review Timo Boll ZLC
Butterfly Timo Boll CAF blade review.
please review YASAKA ALANADE
Hari blade has a scream function for every successful shot made. Just press the butterfly button.
I have a question about what palette and carpet play the best defensive player Han Ying????
nice comparison, thank you very useful, do you recommend any of those to play with short pips?
I now it might be late, but can you do a review on the Boll ZLC and the Octcharov innerforce ALC?
Hello Dan, can i ask you what is your personal table tennis equipment?
he uses timo boll alc with t05
can you compare butterfly innerforce style blades vs Andro Treiber FI which i think is Andros version of Innerforce with 2 layers of wood outside the carbon. i think you tried the Treiber FO with Damien Eloi but thats 1 layer of wood outside the carbon. hope you still have more time doing these reviews/comparisons
Hi Dan your videos are interesting but it would be good if you can review some new equipments like hurricane long 5 or xiom rubbers or darker blades rather than just looping butterfly blades
Quick question, what would you suggest for blade and rubbers for a new player - I'm a decent chop player out the gate. I've been playing around a month, VR, and at work with a friend. We are getting good fast! We can chop, and snake, and emulate pro players - good rallies... I can motion juggle so that helps - anyways bought the boll alc and a terngy 05 and a hard last night. I know I can get used to it... figure it won't hold me back too much in the long long run. BUT is it worth getting a max control, dwell, spin racket too. $2-400 is a good price point if someone could some blades and rubbers,, maybe the Harmoto ALC but figure there's something better for practice focus. - unless you think long term learning wont be TOO bad with pro setup. Thanks for any suggestions/thoughts.
Dan can you please make a review from the innerforce zlc please
Request you to please Re-review Jun ZSLC again, comparing with the new blades (Harimoto, Lin G etc)
Thanks
What you think about the tibhar IV-L blade??
Hi Dan, all woods blade please .. I knew that some top players still use all woods like Simon Gauzy, Hugo Calderano .. Butterfly has introduced Wenge (Hadraw VR & SR) likewise Andro with Wenge veneer (9 ply?)
Hello Dan, I know you get bucketfuls of review requests all the time, but it would be amazing if you did a dimitrij ovtcharov inner force alc blade review, I heard it’s like a mix of these two solid blades by butterfly? Thank you :)
waiting for Butterfly-Supreme collab racket review :)
Quite interesting. I have a question, do you guys recommend harimoto alc for Ma long style‘s players? (For power topspin players)
Ma long used this blade in 2011!
@@virajdadyal5369 Bro the blade wasn't published then
@@bassamsiddiqi864 you dense or smth? Timo used it in 2008 already and you can watch videos on ma long using the blade
Can you do a similar comparison between the stiga carbonado and the stiga dynasty carbon
EXCELENTE, MUCHAS GRACIAS
Can you make a comparison between timo boll alc vs. Kenta matsudaira alc?
Please do innerforce review
Dan. I am still waiting for you too review the Dhs long series blade (malong blade). I will still wait until death hehe. Especially now there a new version that just come the Long 5x it would really if there like a comparison with w968 haha .
Hi dan can you review the dhs hurricane long 5 and hurricane long 5x
What is that black and white blade on the shelf there?
Pls review lin goyuan alc blade pls
Can you do tb zlc vs other zlc..,
Hello! I am writing to you from Ukraine. I am a big fan of your work. You have played Butterfly Franziska Innerforce ZLC. This is my dream, but there is a war in our country. But we will believe in the future. Would you recommend the Butterfly Franziska Innerforce ZLC to an amateur or not. Is it possible to better Harimoto ALC. Thank you for attention.
Can you please review Ma Long Hurricane 5x blade
Do the Tenergy 64 Review, please, there is almost nothing on UA-cam about it
Hi bro, What blade tt do you like the most?
Pls compare zhang jike super zlc and timo boll alc!
Thanks!
DHS Hurricane Long 5 vs Butterfly Viscaria
pretty much this review mate, long is innerforce basically, like Harimoto
but i think there is a difference between long 5 and innerforce, maybe the blade composition
Also, could you do the timoboll alc vs Lin alc?
Can you please do a review of the tenergy 64
I can see some hype stuff I mean u have the supreme X Butterfly racket.....damn💣💣💣💣💣💣💥
Please composition Harimoto AlC ( limba-limba-alc-ayous or?)
What's the difference between the harimoto alc and innerforce layer alc
Try the butterfly sk carbon (100$) it's a very good blade
And compare it with harimoto blade
on which programme you edit videos
I hope that you say abouth control is corect . My dilema is not yet finished and control is very important for me (hoby player) . Price is VERY high and harimoti is higher than timo 15-20 euro .no space for mistake.
This is great
I use a AZXi with "almost" the same comp than Harimoto.. Tried out the Harimoto last week and felt hardly any difference 🙈
Hi. I also have an AZXi and recently bought a Lin Gaoyuan ALC, similar to Boll ALC. I felt LG quicker but still controllable in middle distance shots, but you have to be very precise with your shots close to the table.
The feeling with AZXi was not as good as I expected. ALC un one side and ZLC in the other side don't feel any different. What do you think?
By the way, I've tried xiom, Tibhar and butterfly rubbers with similar results.
Which blade allows you to scream louder?
Hey Dan can you please review the timo boll zlc or dhs W968.
Thank you
Please review long 5 also
How close is it to the Viscaria?
I use ZLC and I know Innerforce ALC quite a lot since my team mate uses it. I'm quite satisfied with ZLC for sometimes I feel like it lacks power at the top end when smashing or power looping. However, ALC is just a bit faster but has a more pleasant/woody feeling and softer than ZLC.
So apart from the size and weight, is it HT quite faster than regular IF.ALC?
I also would like to know the measurement of the FL handle and blade weight distribution (feels head heavy?)
Where can i buy the paddle of timo boll?
Dan please review SK CARBON
interesting review.
I want see innerforce layer alc with tenergy 05 vs innerforce layer alc.s with tenergy 05
vs Lin Gaoyuan ALC too!!
did you play harimoto super zlc??
please review xiom feel zx3
Nice woods to use . Can I get one good carbon wood from you .please
I would prefer the boll alc
A more detail compare between boll alc , freitas alc and m.maze alc
Timo boll alc vs Ovtcharov N1 senso
guys better pair the harimoto alc with dig05 or dig09c ?
Viscaria vs Long 5x pls
Hey Dan, and also others!
I've played for 7 years now, and I play six times a week. I have developed a lot as a player, and I play at a quite high level, although there's still a long, long way to the pro players.
My question is, are these ALC blades too difficult to handle for a amateur player like me? Or should I go with another blade, for example, the Butterfly Petr Korbel.
Thank you. :)
FrederikVater you should definitely go for the inner force alc. It’s a controlled blade yet you get the alc touch and pace. Kh din padawan
Hey man,
I started played table tennis a couple months ago and play 4 times a week using a viscaria with tenergy 05 & developing very quickly. So you should have no problem at all using a ALC blade. Tried the harimoto blade and it's so forgiving and easy to use (and i'm buying it haha).
which one has a fatter handle?
W968 compared to commercial Hurricane Long 5
anyone know anywhere i can get a timo boll alc blade with tenergy 05 ready made?
www.teessport.com
Try testing the bats on the omron robot
the one in japan
How about making review on affordable blades from.palio or sanwei
Review DHS Fang Bo B2X and Long 5X please!
Do animus please
Can you maybe review non-sponsored blades? Not everybody wants to buy overpriced blades.
Guys I really wanna improve my reaction time how?
Hamza Mohamed Just more practice. Also if by reaction time you mean that you can’t reach the ball in time, try shortening your strokes. This’ll give you more time to react.
@@tevtev6227 but I really wanna have a fast reaction time bro
If you are trying to improve your reaction time then try improving your footwork and follow Tevin's advice
Harimoto seems change the racket can’t get the champions?
Restyling : viscaria VS innerforce alc.
Nothing new
Do zhang jike alc
Lin gaoyun alc please
Tibhar mx-p vs mx-s
Nice example of regional price control there: Both 150 euros over there, 100 dollar difference in NA. Yikes.
I have a Harimoto with 82g
Lin Gaoyuan ALC vs Matsudaira ALC