Man, Karnov was the first game I ever beat. I still remember every pixel, where all the secret items are, the mask locations, the works. Seeing Arin use the ladder and leave it just hurts me.
To any of you who might be wondering about the weird jump physics, I think I might actually have an answer. I was recently programming a platformer (they're not as easy as you'd think) and I ran into a similar-looking issue. Basically from what I can tell there's a stored, static value that determines how fast you're allowed to fall before it caps out so your vertical speed doesn't just infinitely accelerate (up and down are flipped in programming so if your vertical speed is increasing that means you're being pulled down). It looks something like this: if (vspeed < 50) vspeed += gravity; What this basically means is that if you're travelling downward slower than 50 units (be they pixels or inches or whatever) to keep increasing your vertical speed until it actually equals 50. If that value was lower, like say, 10, you'd quickly reach that speed and be capped to fall at that speed, which would result in the awkward drifting back to earth. The code for handling how hard you jump wouldn't at all affect this max cap, which is why when Arin gets the super shoes, he still has the awkward fall. The reason for this is that the 50 is the positive cap and jumping would deal almost entirely with negative values (remember, up and down are reversed) so as long as you don't go ABOVE positive 50 no kind of interlapping will occur and thus you'll still have the weird slow falling.
It amazes me that games like Super Mario seldom their settings questions, whereas games that are not as popular but have just have ludicrous settings are like: "Whaaat? Fit-fat Russian shooting bullets from his armpits while collecting "K"s? What's happening!"
For a Data East rep, I'm going with Karnov. He's an classic obscure character who also has his own fighting game that Capcom sued. That's part of gaming history right there.
He was aware of how many dumbasses hated and were going to hate him for not being the other guy, so he tried harder to be likable. But now he's held the job significantly longer than the other guy, and everyone has either gotten over it or moved on to bitch about it in the comments sections of any videos the other guy posts, so he's settled down a bit. Psychology.
I tried borsh from a 5 star restaurant and it was terrible, bu then I tried my Russian friends moms homemade borsh and it was no joke one of the best soups Iv had in my life. Its so damn good.
This was my older brother's favorite game when I was a kid. And I looked up to him a lot so when I saw how good he was at it, I forced myself to improve when I had the game to myself. For some reason though, this is not one of the games of my childhood that my memory retained into adulthood. I came back to it 20 years later and just failed so hard.
I remember playing this in a truck stop/diner on vacation...... whenever the hell it came out. I would guess like 20 years or so. Everyone else ate cereal and pancakes and shit, I got a little box of frosted flakes, chowed it like a pig, and asked for quarters. My sis got mad cuz I was clinking the spoon on my teeth. Strange memories brought on by video games.
I'm from a russian family, and the way we make Borscht (pronounced "borsh", friggen English) actually turns out really tasty. It has a lot more than beets; carrots, potatoes, cabbage, and various other herbs and spices. Sometimes tomatoes. And the beets themselves end up being really soft when cooked, just like the potatoes. It tastes like a weird mixture of everything, much more flavorful than just beets, and goes really well with sour cream. ...Or maybe I'm just weird and russian.
Danny, I want you to know that I was skeptical at first of new grumps, but I love your voice so much that it has invaded my life. I had a midterm today, and all I could hear was you. You were like, "I... wouldn't choose that one" and "That seems to be the correct response." It was glorious.
I had this weird ass game when I was a kid! Couldn't remember the name, but the character and the enemies, especially the flying fro clowns I remembered. I collect systems and games and now I can find this one again. Thanks grumps.
I remember my childhood, filled with Karnov, everyone knew about it's existence, my friends got so jealous that i had the game and they did not. I miss those days!
Thanks for playing Karnov, Grumps! I haven't seen this game in a long, long time. Back then Karnov was one of those obscure but really fun NES titles I played through all the time. I won't spoil it but you're going to have fun with the final boss if and when you make it there.
Yeah, I guess the ukrainian borsht is indeed a disgusting beety mess. That's why here in Poland they're doing it right- barszcz, as it's known here, doesn't have anything in it. It's just pure soup, is drunk, not eaten, and tastes awesome.
Not gonna lie: I am of Ukrainian heritage and although borsht is, in fact, a beety mess, I can vouch for the fact that it's incredibly delicious, and among my favourite dishes.
I can't hear the Karnov music without thinking of that Dance, Dance Karnov flash game that Rich "Lowtax" Kyanka - Gaming Garbage created and posted on Something Awful in, like, 2001.
You can keep the ladder by climbing down it all the way to the ground. For the items you can't select those are situational. The wings you have for example become useable when you reach the end of the roof in the 2nd level and allow you to fly. Also you can make hidden items appear by jumping at certain points in the level.
Not sure if anyone else said this, but... you can get the ladder back after using it by holding down while you're descending the ladder. Also, certain items (like the wings) can only be used at certain locations, so watch for the icon to flash.
Love this game. It was the first game I got after a housefire & move when I was a kid & got the Advantage with it, to this day I play it best with that controller. Never got past the last level. For anyone new, you can keep the ladder by climbing back down. Adds so much to the game.
Borsht is also a big Polish dish too. My family and I have it every christmas eve, but we have the real deal, just straight up diluted beet consummate, no added veggies or anything. But we also put in "Oushka" which is delicious.
I used to play this game a lot when I was little. Guys, you can pick the ladders back up by climbing back down from them. It'll make some of the later areas easier to get through.
In the game, players take control of the title character Jinborov Karnovski (ジンボロフ・カルノフスキー?), or "Karnov" for short. Karnov is a strongman popularly illustrated as being from an unspecified part of the Soviet Union's Central Asian republic as shown on the original arcade flyer and again in Karnov's Revenge.
Oh shit! When I was like, 7, the local trading card shop had this game in an arcade cabinet. I played it maybe once, but watched another kid play it for hours. Never knew what it was. Way to kick me in my nostalgia balls, Grumps.
When Dan started to say what the gold robots reminded him of, I was hoping he had _Metropolis_ in mind, because that really is just straight-up the Maschinenmensch, boobs and all. And I was right! Big ups for the obscure film reference, Dan. And for managing to bring it back after getting distracted, which usually doesn't happen in Let's Plays, especially when there's multiple hosts vying for attention.
I think we're long overdue for a Karnov remake on modern consoles. Updated graphics, a more streamlined inventory system... and featuring the voice work of Arin, providing the hero's fearsome "Blughblughblughblughblugh".
Fun Fact: Karnov is the first boss in Bad Dudes, another Data East game. You youngin's probably know Bad Dudes as the game that gave us the eternal philosophical question "Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?"
He is kind of like a cat that hangs around the neighborhood, It tears everything up and attacks everyone elses cats, but it never goes away so you know someone is feeding it.
Grumps, this is obviously Bald Bull: The Game. It's the story of Bald Bull training in his hometown of Istanbul for the World Circuit in 1985 before he became the fierce, bald, charging force we know him as today.
Alternate story: Soda Popinski, saddened by his grueling defeat at the hands of Little Mac, began to hit the soda hard. After spending a few months lazing around his house in self-loathing, Popinski decided to do something with his life. He was still built from his training, but he had put on weight from binge drinking soda: as a side effect, he could now shoot powerful carbonation blasts. Popinski knew what had to be done: He was going to liberate the neighboring country of Karnov from evil!
I think I made it halfway through this game as a kid. Later it's like a bullet hell if your spaceship (or Touhou girl or whatever) was a slow, bald, fitfat man who drifts about like a balloon that's lost most of its helium, and has the wonkiest shot spread in history.
The story line is one of the same types that you've heard and played before. Basically, you take control of Karnov, who is a circus strongman and try to save a priceless treasure from the evil dragon Ryu.Jan 27, 2002 this is the plot of karnov he is not Russian in any way shape or form. The more you know.
I'm reasonably sure they're just points. The alarm noise is a chance to use one of the super powers like the mask or the wings. The wings last a long time and are good on some of the later bosses. I have no idea what the mask does.
Hello sir,Just remember we all love you...seriously, what would we ever do without you? You give us a common cause to unite against. You gave us grumps a reason to continue supporting the choices of our dear friend Arin. Which reminds me, a message to Arin. Keep on trucking, you 6 chinned animating voice acting god of amazing. sincerely, wolfkeith254...the 7th king of peace.
Oh, I agree with you 100%. It's very much NOT a user-friendly thing. I discovered it quite by accident all those years ago. It's just that these are the times when I reeeeally wish they were live-streaming so we could let them know.
for what it's worth, Karnov came out very early in the NES production cycle, so the graphics and whatnot are pretty simplistic. from what I understand, there was an arcade version that was far superior, and I think Karnov had a cameo in either like Street Fighter or Final Fight.
People still bitching about Jon not being here? FFS, get over it, yes Jon is amazingly funny, but so are Danny and Ross, in fact they both saved game grumps when Jon moved away, so give them some fucking respect
this is gonna make me feel nerdy but i remember being able to take the ladder back when you use it i think you just have to climb back down it and puts it back in inventory
Man, Karnov was the first game I ever beat. I still remember every pixel, where all the secret items are, the mask locations, the works. Seeing Arin use the ladder and leave it just hurts me.
+Kaisar Dragon That's a helluva first game to beat! Even the stage select code was redonk. I've never said redonk before, but there ya go.
To be fair, every other item is single use, there's no reason to believe the ladder is reusable.
To any of you who might be wondering about the weird jump physics, I think I might actually have an answer.
I was recently programming a platformer (they're not as easy as you'd think) and I ran into a similar-looking issue.
Basically from what I can tell there's a stored, static value that determines how fast you're allowed to fall before it caps out so your vertical speed doesn't just infinitely accelerate (up and down are flipped in programming so if your vertical speed is increasing that means you're being pulled down).
It looks something like this:
if (vspeed < 50) vspeed += gravity;
What this basically means is that if you're travelling downward slower than 50 units (be they pixels or inches or whatever) to keep increasing your vertical speed until it actually equals 50.
If that value was lower, like say, 10, you'd quickly reach that speed and be capped to fall at that speed, which would result in the awkward drifting back to earth.
The code for handling how hard you jump wouldn't at all affect this max cap, which is why when Arin gets the super shoes, he still has the awkward fall.
The reason for this is that the 50 is the positive cap and jumping would deal almost entirely with negative values (remember, up and down are reversed) so as long as you don't go ABOVE positive 50 no kind of interlapping will occur and thus you'll still have the weird slow falling.
Weird that Valve gave Heavy his own game 35 years ago
It amazes me that games like Super Mario seldom their settings questions, whereas games that are not as popular but have just have ludicrous settings are like: "Whaaat? Fit-fat Russian shooting bullets from his armpits while collecting "K"s? What's happening!"
+Gorgia Mallich Yeah I know, It doesn't seem that much weirder compared to some of the other games that are universally accepted.
I think it's easier to forgive really good games for being weird. I think there must be some kind of graph, like the hot/crazy chart.
I voted for Karnov to be in Smash Bros.
MrRebelutionary my god it'd be so fucking awesome
It didnt happen but you can vote again for SB5
That will be interesting to see
For a Data East rep, I'm going with Karnov. He's an classic obscure character who also has his own fighting game that Capcom sued. That's part of gaming history right there.
i voted for backwards L shape from tetris
You're blue now! That's my attack.
* You're blue now. Nyeh-heh-heh.
+Leo Falcão the moment i heard that line, i exited full screen mode to check who made the Papyrus joke. congrats
+Leo Falcão
Nyet-heh-heh***
Dabba dee dabba di
SO weird to see an Undertale reference from 9 years ago. Time really do be passing tho
WHAT...WHAT?! You think Borscht is GROSS?! OMG. GUYS. NO. How can you saaaaay that! Borscht is my favorite stew to eat!
OH MY GOD
+Непобедимые и легендарные I like the tomato and beef style Borscht, not a fan of the traditional styles.
It looks like he's constantly holding his pants up.
I love how excited Dan used to sound in these; he still sounds sexy, but just so full of life, now he's an actual grump.
He has turned...
He was aware of how many dumbasses hated and were going to hate him for not being the other guy, so he tried harder to be likable.
But now he's held the job significantly longer than the other guy, and everyone has either gotten over it or moved on to bitch about it in the comments sections of any videos the other guy posts, so he's settled down a bit. Psychology.
Laura Holdorf He really did sound quite energetic.
Love Karnov. I played this when I was young around '92 and fell in love with how strange it was.
What drew my attention here was the dinosaur on the title page.
Same
Admittedly the same
Same.
I tried borsh from a 5 star restaurant and it was terrible, bu then I tried my Russian friends moms homemade borsh and it was no joke one of the best soups Iv had in my life. Its so damn good.
+Lautaro Fonz Nothing beats homemade food.
So I guess this is Devil's First?
I can't believe they didn't make a "divorcht" joke when they had the chance.
This game actually looks quite good.
This was my older brother's favorite game when I was a kid. And I looked up to him a lot so when I saw how good he was at it, I forced myself to improve when I had the game to myself. For some reason though, this is not one of the games of my childhood that my memory retained into adulthood. I came back to it 20 years later and just failed so hard.
I actually loved this game as a kid
I remember playing this in a truck stop/diner on vacation...... whenever the hell it came out. I would guess like 20 years or so. Everyone else ate cereal and pancakes and shit, I got a little box of frosted flakes, chowed it like a pig, and asked for quarters. My sis got mad cuz I was clinking the spoon on my teeth. Strange memories brought on by video games.
And I loved Teen Titans for the GameCube. I played it recently and it's pretty bad.
"It costs four hundred thousand dollars to fire these armpits for twelve seconds."
Everything about this game is weird... and bad... and awesome.
I'm from a russian family, and the way we make Borscht (pronounced "borsh", friggen English) actually turns out really tasty. It has a lot more than beets; carrots, potatoes, cabbage, and various other herbs and spices. Sometimes tomatoes. And the beets themselves end up being really soft when cooked, just like the potatoes. It tastes like a weird mixture of everything, much more flavorful than just beets, and goes really well with sour cream.
...Or maybe I'm just weird and russian.
So would Arin's 6-pack flabs (from the Super Mario Maker playthough) be considered fit-fat?
No flab is just fat meaning arins just fat
Danny, I want you to know that I was skeptical at first of new grumps, but I love your voice so much that it has invaded my life. I had a midterm today, and all I could hear was you. You were like, "I... wouldn't choose that one" and "That seems to be the correct response." It was glorious.
There is actually a translation hack that reinserts the story for this game. Had this as a kid and disappointed you guys don't go to completion.
I had this weird ass game when I was a kid! Couldn't remember the name, but the character and the enemies, especially the flying fro clowns I remembered. I collect systems and games and now I can find this one again. Thanks grumps.
how dare you. you know my grandma was a borsch.
Bridget King, your grandma was a soup ?
I remember my childhood, filled with Karnov, everyone knew about it's existence, my friends got so jealous that i had the game and they did not.
I miss those days!
8:29 Michael De Santa from Grand Theft Auto V
Thanks for playing Karnov, Grumps! I haven't seen this game in a long, long time. Back then Karnov was one of those obscure but really fun NES titles I played through all the time. I won't spoil it but you're going to have fun with the final boss if and when you make it there.
Ugu~ I'm here to spam Danny's first Game Grumps video~
You're looking for punch out
I have massive respect for you. You have carved yourself and your name into Game Grumps lore in a matter of weeks. Kudos.
Oh, you had no idea lol
LOOK OUT FOR THE STARMAN!
I remember the lightning when spawning being the coolest thing ever
Borscht is fucking amazing Dan especially the beet one. You need to try some good borscht.
Vegan Powered GameGeek, and Pelmeni, lol
I like how Danny says "oh nooooo..." :3
Yeah, I guess the ukrainian borsht is indeed a disgusting beety mess. That's why here in Poland they're doing it right- barszcz, as it's known here, doesn't have anything in it. It's just pure soup, is drunk, not eaten, and tastes awesome.
Not gonna lie: I am of Ukrainian heritage and although borsht is, in fact, a beety mess, I can vouch for the fact that it's incredibly delicious, and among my favourite dishes.
John Oliver
I linked to it on my profile
Saw the title image and immediately remembered owning a handheld game of this, one of those Tiger handheld games. Was the best one I owned.
I can't hear the Karnov music without thinking of that Dance, Dance Karnov flash game that Rich "Lowtax" Kyanka - Gaming Garbage created and posted on Something Awful in, like, 2001.
You can keep the ladder by climbing down it all the way to the ground. For the items you can't select those are situational. The wings you have for example become useable when you reach the end of the roof in the 2nd level and allow you to fly. Also you can make hidden items appear by jumping at certain points in the level.
This showed up in the recommended videos, looks like I'm watching this series again
Not sure if anyone else said this, but... you can get the ladder back after using it by holding down while you're descending the ladder. Also, certain items (like the wings) can only be used at certain locations, so watch for the icon to flash.
Love this game. It was the first game I got after a housefire & move when I was a kid & got the Advantage with it, to this day I play it best with that controller. Never got past the last level. For anyone new, you can keep the ladder by climbing back down. Adds so much to the game.
Borsht is also a big Polish dish too. My family and I have it every christmas eve, but we have the real deal, just straight up diluted beet consummate, no added veggies or anything. But we also put in "Oushka" which is delicious.
I used to play this game a lot when I was little. Guys, you can pick the ladders back up by climbing back down from them. It'll make some of the later areas easier to get through.
I'm from Russia and just so there's no false stereotypes from this game I'll tell you now, this is EXACTLY what it's like there.
In the game, players take control of the title character Jinborov Karnovski (ジンボロフ・カルノフスキー?), or "Karnov" for short. Karnov is a strongman popularly illustrated as being from an unspecified part of the Soviet Union's Central Asian republic as shown on the original arcade flyer and again in Karnov's Revenge.
We need more Karnov now. It must be a series.
Karnov is awesome, that's my childhood right there, and it was trippy. Plus if you climb down the ladder your get it back.
Oh shit! When I was like, 7, the local trading card shop had this game in an arcade cabinet. I played it maybe once, but watched another kid play it for hours. Never knew what it was. Way to kick me in my nostalgia balls, Grumps.
When Dan started to say what the gold robots reminded him of, I was hoping he had _Metropolis_ in mind, because that really is just straight-up the Maschinenmensch, boobs and all. And I was right! Big ups for the obscure film reference, Dan. And for managing to bring it back after getting distracted, which usually doesn't happen in Let's Plays, especially when there's multiple hosts vying for attention.
I think we're long overdue for a Karnov remake on modern consoles. Updated graphics, a more streamlined inventory system... and featuring the voice work of Arin, providing the hero's fearsome "Blughblughblughblughblugh".
I love how genuinely happy Karnov makes Arin.
"Karnov is Karnov. If I were to describe Karnov, I'd have to say it's Karnov."
- Tom "Heisanevilgenius" White
I've been trying to remember the name of this game for over 20 years. I loved this game as a kid
I used to love this in the arcade back in the late 80's :D
You know what I miss? Scrolling down and seeing witty banter along with clever jokes that related to the video.
Fun Fact: Karnov is the first boss in Bad Dudes, another Data East game. You youngin's probably know Bad Dudes as the game that gave us the eternal philosophical question "Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?"
That moment when the Game Grumps mention your place of work.... Joyous.
Best ending to a one-shot ever. I was excited to hear those five words!
He is kind of like a cat that hangs around the neighborhood, It tears everything up and attacks everyone elses cats, but it never goes away so you know someone is feeding it.
Grumps, this is obviously Bald Bull: The Game. It's the story of Bald Bull training in his hometown of Istanbul for the World Circuit in 1985 before he became the fierce, bald, charging force we know him as today.
It's my Birth Day today and I am watching one of my favorite groups....of grumps!
those jumping shoes are like the scissors wrapped in packaging you need scissors to open
I just noticed that Dan and Aron never hate each other. They have never gotten mad at each other
This looks awesome and waaay ahead of its time!
Dude, its waaay ahead of OUR time!
Exited for witcher 3? Pffffffft Karloff is far superior
I played this at a friend's house in the late eighties and owned the tiger LCD handheld good times!
Alternate story: Soda Popinski, saddened by his grueling defeat at the hands of Little Mac, began to hit the soda hard. After spending a few months lazing around his house in self-loathing, Popinski decided to do something with his life. He was still built from his training, but he had put on weight from binge drinking soda: as a side effect, he could now shoot powerful carbonation blasts. Popinski knew what had to be done: He was going to liberate the neighboring country of Karnov from evil!
Props to you, pal, and a thumbs up so that the Grumps see this since they're so obviously strapped for cash.
im on a game grumps binge... always
Wikipedia description for the Karnov character:
bulging-muscled, fire-breathing, ex-circus strongman east-Russian hero
Yeah, pretty much Karnov.
I think I made it halfway through this game as a kid. Later it's like a bullet hell if your spaceship (or Touhou girl or whatever) was a slow, bald, fitfat man who drifts about like a balloon that's lost most of its helium, and has the wonkiest shot spread in history.
The story line is one of the same types that you've heard and played before. Basically, you take control of Karnov, who is a circus strongman and try to save a priceless treasure from the evil dragon Ryu.Jan 27, 2002 this is the plot of karnov he is not Russian in any way shape or form. The more you know.
I'm reasonably sure they're just points. The alarm noise is a chance to use one of the super powers like the mask or the wings. The wings last a long time and are good on some of the later bosses. I have no idea what the mask does.
Man I used to play this game at the arcades when I was a kid. Was kind of weird that the sequel was a fighting game like Streetfighter.
Karnovs revenge is one of my favorite fighting games without a doubt
I love comments like this. You win the internet. You win all the internets.
Something about that first minute always getting me to laugh my ass off xD
I made a comedy Karnov video like this awhile ago. It's an awesomely random game and it's nice to see the likes of Egoraptor givin Karnov some lovin.
Now THIS is something else.
Thanks!
Dude I had soooo much fun playing this game back in the day!
The last line is the greatest out of the entire comment.
Hello sir,Just remember we all love you...seriously, what would we ever do without you? You give us a common cause to unite against. You gave us grumps a reason to continue supporting the choices of our dear friend Arin. Which reminds me, a message to Arin. Keep on trucking, you 6 chinned animating voice acting god of amazing. sincerely, wolfkeith254...the 7th king of peace.
Karnov lives to digest another day! Hurrah!
Oh, I agree with you 100%. It's very much NOT a user-friendly thing. I discovered it quite by accident all those years ago. It's just that these are the times when I reeeeally wish they were live-streaming so we could let them know.
Gods I love Dan. "Its flashing, try the other button". THANK YOU.
lol Feature Flurry and a new Special Guest Troll every episode.
This will be a magical journey. a) I loved this game as a kid. b) I was terrible at this game as a kid.
I had no clue what game this would be, I just trusted my inner child saying that dinosaurs are awesome.
It's deceptively fun and it has infinite continues and you never lose your inventory when you die.
Dan sure loves the phrase "Oh no!"
for what it's worth, Karnov came out very early in the NES production cycle, so the graphics and whatnot are pretty simplistic.
from what I understand, there was an arcade version that was far superior, and I think Karnov had a cameo in either like Street Fighter or Final Fight.
People still bitching about Jon not being here? FFS, get over it, yes Jon is amazingly funny, but so are Danny and Ross, in fact they both saved game grumps when Jon moved away, so give them some fucking respect
Holy shit I nerded out when I saw what game was being played on this episode. Good shit guys!
Karnov looks like he is constantly trying to hold his pants from falling down.
In Soviet Russia, there are apparently giant seahorses and golems that throw rocks.
this is gonna make me feel nerdy but i remember being able to take the ladder back when you use it i think you just have to climb back down it and puts it back in inventory
Flurryisaniceword trolling is pretty much a tradition now.
And although his super-ninja skills are great, he has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone. But I believe Dan can save the world.
They're not shitting on it, its just fricking hilarious XD
I used to play this in the arcade back in the 80s
Dat Metropolis reference. Who knew Danny was versed in 1920's cinema?