2:36:16 My god. The lady in purple should be ashamed of herself! I had mental health issues my whole life, I still can get murdered?! What a biased woman, unbelievable.
@@bettywhite6672 No way that sweet lady committed suicide 💔 . The fact her husband would not take her to the hospital even when small children were in fear 😢 of their mother's health sealed his guilt for me
Agree! Hired guns are there for a reason... $$$. Paid to discredit the doctors/police/witnesses/evidence etc. by their very long CVs. I dont buy it. I really thought the con and ex con were more credible.
This female pathologist is a joke! She thinks everyone in 1998 knew how to turn on a computer. I remember my husband and kids saying, "Now just move the mouse." I had no clue what that meant. What is a mouse?? She is SO BIASED. I'm glad she was called on that. She's fumbling and stumbling now.
At 6:05:40 marks sister states Julie said she was offered the job but Decided NOT to take it. How can this be when Julie didn't know she was offered the job yet? When the principal called Mark said Julie was asleep and would be for a long time. Julie didn't know she got the job. Also the witness testified the last time she spoke to Julie was on November 30th that was before the principal called to offer her the job. The witness is lying 🤥
The forensic pathologist correctly advises that in general a Medical Examiner should take into account history and circumstances beyond mere autopsy pathological tests - but then proceeds to completely ignore [edit: correction: *distort*] that very same advice in coming to her own unjustified conclusions in this case! Two distortions are (a) her misrepresentation of Julie's unhappiness and anxiety as " depression" - which it wasn't, not by any stretch of imagination - and (b) Thomas' exaggeration about suicide running in families - it can, but not necessarily so, as any living child of a suicided parent can testify. An alert juror will remember that Julie had told her marital concerns to her GP, and then decided by herself to go for divorce to resolve them. Later, changing that decision, trying to make a go of it for the sake of the children, was a fatal mistake. And on top of that, Thomas argues that it would be impossible for an adult to be force-fed a pill, blowing smoke over the more likely possibility that Julie could have been deceptively fed a powdered pill in a drink. Next, Thomas states "if someone is violently sitting on someone's back..." I don't know about you, but when i sit on a chair, i don't do so violently. Poor Julie was already half-dead from poison and sedatives, even if still just breathing, so it would have been easy for Mark to have pressed her face into the pillow by sitting on the back of her head, not on the back of her torso - there would have been no struggle, no defensive injuries. Dillard heard/got/said it wrong, but that hardly matters. And it doesn't excuse Dr Thomas for turning from medical doctor to spin doctor. It is plain as day that the egregious Dr Thomas (unlike the witty Mr Thomas) is, in her retirement, selling herself as a defence gun for hire, willing to lie under oath by fairy stories and smoke-screens, bringing the practice of forensic pathology into disrepute. I look forward to watching her own trial for professional misconduct.
@@melaniegaribaldi6724 i'm not sure that's true, Melanie - although i haven't checked the statistics, i think a victim of domestic violence is more at risk when she (or, in rare cases, he) doesn't run away and gives the offender another chance. In this case, Julie was killed 7 years after she gave Mark another chance.
This lady is Dangerous and should Never be allowed to testify for either side Ever again. Her license or credentials should be pulled immediately. How many innocent people has she had a part in sentencing and how many guilty people has she helped get off Scott free. This is scary!
So Mark's sister was Julie's "best friend"? Glad I don't have Friends like that, that won't even bother to talk to the police or DA if I mysteriously ended up dead at 40 ! Not to mention all the other very questionable testimony.
When did having depression and/or anxiety equal being " mentally ill?" If that's the case...whoa..we have A LOT of mentally ill people in this country!
Anxiety and depression are both mental illnesses, yup, two of the most common ones. That's why they're listed in the DSM, and people visit psychologists and receive therapy and medication to help alleviate symptoms. Of course severity and symptoms fall on a spectrum, but you're completely right, there are a lot of people suffering with mental illness worldwide. It's estimated one in six people will suffer a major depressive episode at least once in their life, and one in five people suffers from mental illness at any given time, however this changes slightly with country and population.
Plus, many people kill their spouse instead of divorcing. This Dr never thought of that? We hear that all the time. But "everyone knew how to operate computers" Really?? Not an accurate assumption much less a fact. Very bias against Julie. Shameful on her part. Did you notice she couldn't even look at the jury at the end and when leaving? She lied through her teeth. Shameful!
@Caitlin P thank you! see..I myself have anxiety on a regular basis, with depression that comes and goes. But i don't want to be called " mentally ill". It's a terrible stigma to carry, especially in America where we have a long way to go with acceptance..still. I didn't like various witness trashing Julie's memory like that, I understood her issues so very much. I think a lot of women can identify in one way or another 😌
Depression did used to be considered a mental illness...much to be ashamed of. It still is considered a mental illness but is more accepted by the general public.
Jambois made a verrry successful and real effort on behalf of Julie. He painted a beautiful picture of her...her intelligence, her hobbies she loved, her accomplishments in graduation, her valiant effort to save her own life! Julie needed this..someone to speak loudly for her in a trial full of humiliating lies, accusations and personal secrets and battles. Poor Julie...😪Thank you mr.Jambois 💜
It reminds me so much of the Jodi Arias trial. There should be some kind of law that protects the victims and doesn’t allow their name to be trashed unless the defense can prove otherwise. My heart hurts for Julie and her friends and family. I really hope the jury has eyes that can see and ears that can hear what truly happened here and that Mark stays where he belongs.
I want to know how mrs and mr Jambois met 🙂 They're both special prosecutors, they're a beautiful team. He's destroying the forensic pathologist and she's so content with the job he's doing, under her guidance and support.
Unfortunately, with "expert witnesses" being paid thousands to testify, lying is inevitable. They're greedy whores with no integrity. As for the sister- well, obviously family members lie their asses off for different reasons.
@@flapjackbickle645 I've watched hundreds of trials and I fear I'll agree with you. I can remember only a handful of them being really credible and unbiased.
@@StellaFl Yeah, watching these trials exposes the ridiculous flaws in the justice system. If you're not already familiar with it, I urge you to look at the case of Bart McNeil. He's been in prison more than 20 years for murdering his daughter and he is absolutely innocent. It's one of the most insane cases I've ever looked at- the murderer is his ex partner, which he suspected at the time and said she'd kill again. She's now doing life for killing her mother-in-law.
@@flapjackbickle645 I was just reading into the McNeil case! It's horrible! But it looks like late last year there were new developments and he might be allowed a retrial!
Oh my days! Expert witnesses?? My deaf 93 year old nan would give better testimony than the forensic pathologist!! Embarrassing!! As for the best friend/sister? Pernicious and duplicitous dullard! Poor Jambois…he looked like he was on the verge of a cardiac arrest! Him and the judge have been brilliant, let’s hope it’s 3rd time unlucky for Munster Man so Julie and her loved ones finally get justice ⚖️
His sister is driving me crazy! I remember everything about my best friend from high school when we were sixteen, even minute details about what clothes she wore and what records she listened to. Mark's sister acts like she never knew Julie at all, let alone was her best friend.
Best friend, in her eyes. How many of us would lie about our best friend to protect the murderer? The police officer tried to reach Laura multiple times over the years. Then refused to speak to him at all. Best friend, my A-s! Loyalty to her brother, which she warned Julie, she didn't know what he'd all be capable of doing after living with him for 18 years. Another witness that doesn't help the defense. Having the witnesses go on to lie, and it's so obvious, isn't fooling anyone. I hope the jury sees through the lies.
Once again Mr. Jambois tears down every bit of credibility the so-called "expert" defense witness. She is so squirrelly and biased. Her critical thinking skills pale in comparison to Jambois.
She has critical thinking skills she's just purposefully being obtuse. Any professional that took one look at this case would know he was guilty to you
So agree - Either she's a genuine dimwitt or she's agreed to play one for a fat paycheck. I think it's the latter. Fortunately Mr. Jambois exposed her pathetic bias...
i mean why wouldn't she help her brother, Mark would be the one to receive julie's life insurance if he is the next of kin on the paper. And the sister will get some of the money too.
I've gone through 2 divorces, yes a person may be upset, sad or even depressed about it. However, that is a situational depression, not an imbalance depression. Just because someone "thinks" their marriage is over and will end in divorce doesn't mean they will commit suicide. No papers were filed at this time. The Dr today made it seem like that is a common occurrence that people commit suicideover divorce. It would be intetesting to look at statistics. I think it's probably more common for one spouse to kill the other than to kill themselves, especially if young children were involved. Julie loved her children, she was planning on getting job, (Independence) an act of preparing or moving foward. Not one of a person planning on committing suicide.
3:04 there it is…she had enough information to answer the question that were going to be asked of me….didn’t count on the cross examination being so broad…
I wonder what the killer thinks, when he hears the experts say that the death was undetermined or suicide. He must be laughing inside. Although he made so many mistakes, some ppl still don’t get it. Wow
Jensen thrives when his lawyers ask stupid questions to the State's experts, his face lights up. innocent or guilty, I dislike this man's body language, especially facial expressions.
So Julie calls her husbands sister for lunch and confesses to an affair and being in love with a coworker to the point of wanting to marry him?? Riiiiiiight.
She's getting paid upwards of, what, 20 grand, to put aside critical thinking skills to put on a pathetic show? Fortunately Mr. Jambois masterfully exposed every inch of her bias - hopefully the jury saw through her...
This family is creepy. I don’t believe his sister …. Her mouth is to spitty. She doesn’t look concerned at all. His sister is not honest. Oh. The lies you tell. So JJ walks up to her with a photo of his planner and is like oh here. What do you think? Who does that? This lady knew what JJ was talking about.
So the sister states she visited Julie’s house on the same day Julie died around 3:00…then did not visit with her so she left…then later she received a phone call to pick up Julie’s children….hmmm, what time do her children get out of school?
Yes, she also said she didn't want to wake her up? How does she know Julie was asleep? At the same time she thought no one was home???? She lied under oath. The prosecutor will bring the detective she spoke to tell him she was was worried that her brother killed her best friend
im sure mark called his sister to check on julie to see if she was dead yet. She went in the house checked on julie and then called mark to tell her that she is still alive and i think the sister was the one who turned julie to her side . She rang mark and then told him to come home and mark went in to check if she was dead. Why would the sister bother coming by to check on julie at that time at 3 pm and the sister also stated that she had to pick up the kids from julies house, but the sister made the statement before that on the 30th of november that julie wasn't going to be seeing her for a few days because of the medication for depression so it means that julie will not be looking after the sisters children in the next few weeks. So why does the kids need to be picked up from Julies house ? And how she would not know who called her to pick up the kids ? It would have been mark making the call if mark was the one who found julie dead . Or did the sister checked on julie for mark and knew she was dead and gave herself an alibi as to why she was at the house around 3 pm. How could the sister know that all the lights in the house was not on and that everything in the house was dark. For all she knows that julie could have been sitting in the backyard and julie switched all the lights off to save money. How was the sister in the house at 3 pm.
I'd like to know if the taxpayers are paying this so-called expert her outrageous bill for her paid testimony? I take what this lady says with a grain of salt, only because she's going to say whatever the defense wants her to say. She didn't know Julie, yet she could sit there and arrogantly say Julie killed herself 🙄. I'm still shocked she has the nerve to ask for thousands of dollars and expect anyone to trust what she says. I find this witness as reliable as any jailhouse snitch. JMO
Defense did good to put the female attorney in a close neck shirt and put the male by Jensen. Unfortunately the female attorney could not wear a flattering blouse like the one yesterday as I noticed creepo Frankenstein Jensen was creeping a peek down her blouse.
This forensic phatologist is stupid? The fact that a person has depression does not mean he/ she is suicidal. Neither have mental illness. The prosecutor is great, so calm and clever.
Someone should take a second look at all Dr. Lindsey Thomas's case . She is so dumbfounded only looks at certain people , she can't see beyond her self. Shame Shame Shame.
Not that I'm an expert in body language, but do you notice that there is a lot of " turtle" , head going into raised shoulders , ) in the defense witnesses, .This raises my question to if they are trying to not answer , not sure , get out of answering, afraid of the answer ..they are uncomfortable for sure.
Mark's sister never said once that she thought Julie committed suicide. She said multiple times that she thought it was 'drug interaction'. I dont know how that isn't telling.
So much of purple lady's testimony is speculation but the prosecutor never objected. I think she's over the line and shouldn't be part of her pathology expertise. I use that word "expertise" lightly. Also I'm surprised that the defense doesn't object to the prosecutor basically testifying. He's doing everything he can for Julie.
I love how it rolls his eye at her answers but always polite. Jury won't like her unless you bully or ridicule her, then they might feel for her. He does it just right. What a crony.
1:39:00 Prosecutor: "Were you aware that Mark Jensen had been torturing - gaslighting - his wife for years and years and years before her death?" Dr Thompson: "I'm kinda struggling with all of the factors here..." Prosecutor (interrupting): "blah blah blah..." Judge: "Let her finish" (ie, "let her dig her own grave") Thank you, Judge, for stopping Mr Motormouth Prosecutor from ruining his own case by interrupting the hostile witness, stopping her from undermining her own credibility! :) 3:02:10 Oh, Mr Motormouth Prosecutor! You missed it - you are so intent on bulldozing until you get your witness to simply agree with whatever you say, you completely missed it when she contradicted herself in disagreeing with you!! Specifically, it went like this: You: "You have no evidence of homicide" She: "I have a lot of evidence of homicide..." You (interrupting again): " But..." and argued with her instead of just saying "Aha! So you admit it!!" No offence, Mr one-track P, but i think you are well past your "use-by" date, - if Mark gets off, it will be your fault.
Dr Thompson is a liar, you can see in every bit of her cross examination that she was paid to say that julie died of suicide . Even the way she smiles at the prosecutor because she knows that he knows that she was paid to lie. And being the stupid woman that she is she also has ruined her reputation as a DR for this rubbish investigation for her all for 20k . Everyone will remember her as a corrupted Dr Thompson.
@@JK-jj9ko She's not even a competent liar, as both you and i and i'm sure many other observers can easily see through her deception. But her cross-examination may yet get Mark off, because it revealed that the Prosecutor is hell-bent on proving suffocation as the cause of death, which is almost impossible to prove as there is no forensic evidence to support it (inhalation of pillow fibres would be about the only possible indication, and that wasn't tested by the Medical Examiner). If The Prosecutor carries on like he's been going, he will shoot himself in the foot and Mark will escape justice. This case provides an overwhelming argument for rewriting the law regarding the purpose of postmortem Medical Examination and forensic pathology - it should clearly be limited to addressing Cause of death, but not Manner, as distinguishing between accident, suicide and homicide requires skills, knowledge and patience beyond the reach of most hard-pressed MEs and paid-by-the-hour pathology experts. Here, there is a mountain of circumstantial evidence supporting homicide by poisoning, but only one blabbermouth (Mark himself, relayed by a proven conman) supporting homicide by suffocation. Please wake up, Mr Prosecutor, before it's too late!
As heinous as this case is .. .. is it just me or does the chubby guy in the black t-shirt, behind the prosecutor (1:54:16) kinda look like his left arm is up to no good..? I mean, he keeps looking over his shoulder
People are slating 'the lady in purple' for sticking to her view that suicide is more likely than murder, but why is she even being asked to proffer an opinion? She's as an expert in toxicology, can of course speak to 'cause' of death, but the 'manner' through which Julie Jensen came to consume the antifreeze has surely to be explored/established by the police and prosecution and it's then for the jury to decide who they believe.
Well i think the jury will find that julie did not die of suicide especially when they realised that Dr Thompsons examination was full of rubbish and was paid to lie .
@@JK-jj9ko I'm not suggesting otherwise, I'm just questioning why an expert in toxicology, who wasn't one of the police investigators, is being asked for her opinion on the manner of death: we know how she died and the question of the manner of death is for the jury, not for a toxicologist. Every human being on the planet, including those with zero education, is in just a good a position as Dr Thompson in terms of proffering an opinion on whether it was suicide or murder (or indeed accidental ingestion).
I honestly don’t believe there’s enough to convict this man. Regardless of my personal opinion, if I were on the jury I’d believe there’s definitely reasonable doubt.
Sorry, but I find him very attractive but I don't know if he killed his wife, or only for one letter that she could write only for her extra imagination, made him guilty. You never know. It is hard...to know. Her autopsy wasn't good enough. She could abuse with her pills. If they divorced when she was with another men in her bedroom...now everyone will be better. Mark was suffering a lot with that affair that she had...this made him has obsession about penis. He needed to divorce in that moment.
This trial has the worst defendant, defense and prosecutor. Mark is so creepy. His bizzar smile reminds me of that clown in the Simpson's. The female attorney for the defense is brutal. Her questions are pointless and have done nothing for mark. The prosecutor is so extremely bias to get that guilty he is overly aggressive, rude and very condescending. He treats the witnesses like crap any time they say they can't recall.
The prosecutor is being a rude and condescending jerk. When you talk to people like that you can come across the wrong way to a jury. He must have said "were you aware of that" at least 100 times. And when she doesn't remember it he makes it seem like that is a problem unless your thrv
I can’t stand the prosecutor in this case. He’s so rude to the defense witnesses and experts. I think mark is guilty, but if I was on that jury, his anger and rude behavior wouldn’t help his case. I almost feel as if this case is his personal vendetta.
He'll be there till he dies if there's true justice! The nerve of him to sit there amongst us just to get a few weeks out, smirking and acting like he's innocent!
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2:36:16 My god. The lady in purple should be ashamed of herself! I had mental health issues my whole life, I still can get murdered?! What a biased woman, unbelievable.
The fact she was being paid $400 an hour by the defence may have had something to do with it.
Absolutely agree!! I can't believe how much $ she's getting to say what the defense wants her to say. What a joke.
Just to think she determines if one was murdered or suicide 😕
She was trying hard to push the suicide story
@@bettywhite6672
No way that sweet lady committed suicide 💔 . The fact her husband would not take her to the hospital even when small children were in fear 😢 of their mother's health sealed his guilt for me
These defense experts were terrible about hiding their bias 💀
Every " Weelllllll... " was a red flag...
Extremely bias. Terrible witnesses, especially the Dr today.
Agree! Hired guns are there for a reason... $$$. Paid to discredit the doctors/police/witnesses/evidence etc. by their very long CVs. I dont buy it.
I really thought the con and ex con were more credible.
I agree the ex-cons appreared more creditable than the derense experts. Obviously, they didnt fool many of us or, more importantly, the jury.
This female pathologist is a joke! She thinks everyone in 1998 knew how to turn on a computer. I remember my husband and kids saying, "Now just move the mouse." I had no clue what that meant. What is a mouse?? She is SO BIASED. I'm glad she was called on that. She's fumbling and stumbling now.
🙏 for the prosecution and Julie’s family at this time, may justice prevail and peace unending
At 6:05:40 marks sister states Julie said she was offered the job but Decided NOT to take it. How can this be when Julie didn't know she was offered the job yet? When the principal called Mark said Julie was asleep and would be for a long time. Julie didn't know she got the job. Also the witness testified the last time she spoke to Julie was on November 30th that was before the principal called to offer her the job. The witness is lying 🤥
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God bless Julie. May her death not be in vain
I thought the same. How did she come up with that, Mark??
I noticed that too. Sorry the prosecution didn't drill her on that. Hopefully the jurors didn't miss any of it
@@sharonr3725
Exactly
This Prosecutor deserves a raise, job well done
The forensic pathologist correctly advises that in general a Medical Examiner should take into account history and circumstances beyond mere autopsy pathological tests - but then proceeds to completely ignore [edit: correction: *distort*] that very same advice in coming to her own unjustified conclusions in this case!
Two distortions are (a) her misrepresentation of Julie's unhappiness and anxiety as " depression" - which it wasn't, not by any stretch of imagination - and (b) Thomas' exaggeration about suicide running in families - it can, but not necessarily so, as any living child of a suicided parent can testify. An alert juror will remember that Julie had told her marital concerns to her GP, and then decided by herself to go for divorce to resolve them. Later, changing that decision, trying to make a go of it for the sake of the children, was a fatal mistake.
And on top of that, Thomas argues that it would be impossible for an adult to be force-fed a pill, blowing smoke over the more likely possibility that Julie could have been deceptively fed a powdered pill in a drink.
Next, Thomas states "if someone is violently sitting on someone's back..." I don't know about you, but when i sit on a chair, i don't do so violently. Poor Julie was already half-dead from poison and sedatives, even if still just breathing, so it would have been easy for Mark to have pressed her face into the pillow by sitting on the back of her head, not on the back of her torso - there would have been no struggle, no defensive injuries. Dillard heard/got/said it wrong, but that hardly matters. And it doesn't excuse Dr Thomas for turning from medical doctor to spin doctor.
It is plain as day that the egregious Dr Thomas (unlike the witty Mr Thomas) is, in her retirement, selling herself as a defence gun for hire, willing to lie under oath by fairy stories and smoke-screens, bringing the practice of forensic pathology into disrepute. I look forward to watching her own trial for professional misconduct.
And let's not forget when the victim tries to make a break they are at the most vulnerable. ie: files for divorce.
@@melaniegaribaldi6724 i'm not sure that's true, Melanie - although i haven't checked the statistics, i think a victim of domestic violence is more at risk when she (or, in rare cases, he) doesn't run away and gives the offender another chance. In this case, Julie was killed 7 years after she gave Mark another chance.
This lady in purple should be ashamed of herself, she should note allowed to practice her profession shame on her
As a medical professional ( Rn, Bsn , Gal, Casa volunteer) I totally agree.
This lady is Dangerous and should Never be allowed to testify for either side Ever again. Her license or credentials should be pulled immediately. How many innocent people has she had a part in sentencing and how many guilty people has she helped get off Scott free. This is scary!
So Mark's sister was Julie's "best friend"? Glad I don't have Friends like that, that won't even bother to talk to the police or DA if I mysteriously ended up dead at 40 ! Not to mention all the other very questionable testimony.
Well said!
Exactly my thoughts too! I was waiting for MacNeil to ask what kind of best friend are you really??!!
So proud of our prosecutors great job
When did having depression and/or anxiety equal being " mentally ill?" If that's the case...whoa..we have A LOT of mentally ill people in this country!
Anxiety and depression are both mental illnesses, yup, two of the most common ones. That's why they're listed in the DSM, and people visit psychologists and receive therapy and medication to help alleviate symptoms. Of course severity and symptoms fall on a spectrum, but you're completely right, there are a lot of people suffering with mental illness worldwide. It's estimated one in six people will suffer a major depressive episode at least once in their life, and one in five people suffers from mental illness at any given time, however this changes slightly with country and population.
Plus, many people kill their spouse instead of divorcing. This Dr never thought of that? We hear that all the time. But "everyone knew how to operate computers" Really?? Not an accurate assumption much less a fact. Very bias against Julie. Shameful on her part. Did you notice she couldn't even look at the jury at the end and when leaving? She lied through her teeth. Shameful!
@Caitlin P thank you! see..I myself have anxiety on a regular basis, with depression that comes and goes. But i don't want to be called " mentally ill". It's a terrible stigma to carry, especially in America where we have a long way to go with acceptance..still. I didn't like various witness trashing Julie's memory like that, I understood her issues so very much. I think a lot of women can identify in one way or another 😌
Depression did used to be considered a mental illness...much to be ashamed of. It still is considered a mental illness but is more accepted by the general public.
Yes, we do.
Im so bothered by this case. It's honestly all I can think about... I really hope justice prevails.
Jambois made a verrry successful and real effort on behalf of Julie. He painted a beautiful picture of her...her intelligence, her hobbies she loved, her accomplishments in graduation, her valiant effort to save her own life! Julie needed this..someone to speak loudly for her in a trial full of humiliating lies, accusations and personal secrets and battles. Poor Julie...😪Thank you mr.Jambois 💜
While coming across as an unhinged, vindictive nut job. Well done Jambois.
Yes!
I agree. I’ve never heard a prosecutor speak about the victim so passionately.
It reminds me so much of the Jodi Arias trial. There should be some kind of law that protects the victims and doesn’t allow their name to be trashed unless the defense can prove otherwise. My heart hurts for Julie and her friends and family. I really hope the jury has eyes that can see and ears that can hear what truly happened here and that Mark stays where he belongs.
Naw, I think he’s rude af and even though I think mark is guilty, if I was on the jury his attitude wouldn’t help his case.
I don’t understand how a professional can just agree with lies. I guess it’s the money.
theyre paid to say it
I want to know how mrs and mr Jambois met 🙂 They're both special prosecutors, they're a beautiful team. He's destroying the forensic pathologist and she's so content with the job he's doing, under her guidance and support.
Poor Julie was surrounded by evil Jensen’s!
Is it just me or was Jensen's sister blatantly lying? The same goes for the expert witnesses as well.
Unfortunately, with "expert witnesses" being paid thousands to testify, lying is inevitable. They're greedy whores with no integrity. As for the sister- well, obviously family members lie their asses off for different reasons.
@@flapjackbickle645 I've watched hundreds of trials and I fear I'll agree with you. I can remember only a handful of them being really credible and unbiased.
@@StellaFl Yeah, watching these trials exposes the ridiculous flaws in the justice system. If you're not already familiar with it, I urge you to look at the case of Bart McNeil. He's been in prison more than 20 years for murdering his daughter and he is absolutely innocent. It's one of the most insane cases I've ever looked at- the murderer is his ex partner, which he suspected at the time and said she'd kill again. She's now doing life for killing her mother-in-law.
@@flapjackbickle645 thanks for the suggestion, will do!
@@flapjackbickle645 I was just reading into the McNeil case! It's horrible! But it looks like late last year there were new developments and he might be allowed a retrial!
As a person with anxiety depression for my entire adult life I am insulted by this purple lady’s disgusting testimony…
Stay in bed. The world is scary!
I agree, the purple lady was disgusting. All her qualifications and she still had nasty snippy snide comments for the deceased Julie.
She was paid very well to stick with the story that Julie was trying to frame Mark. What a load of rubbish!
me too...
Right,very much interested in the enormous amount she’s being paid to do that
Oh my days! Expert witnesses?? My deaf 93 year old nan would give better testimony than the forensic pathologist!! Embarrassing!! As for the best friend/sister? Pernicious and duplicitous dullard! Poor Jambois…he looked like he was on the verge of a cardiac arrest! Him and the judge have been brilliant, let’s hope it’s 3rd time unlucky for Munster Man so Julie and her loved ones finally get justice ⚖️
None of these defence witnesses seem to be helping the defence but more helping the prosecutors.
I always love when the witnesses of one party get used by the other for their advantage.
His sister is driving me crazy! I remember everything about my best friend from high school when we were sixteen, even minute details about what clothes she wore and what records she listened to. Mark's sister acts like she never knew Julie at all, let alone was her best friend.
Best friend, in her eyes. How many of us would lie about our best friend to protect the murderer?
The police officer tried to reach Laura multiple times over the years. Then refused to speak to him at all. Best friend, my A-s! Loyalty to her brother, which she warned Julie, she didn't know what he'd all be capable of doing after living with him for 18 years. Another witness that doesn't help the defense. Having the witnesses go on to lie, and it's so obvious, isn't fooling anyone. I hope the jury sees through the lies.
The sister is going to say whatever her parents want her to. Period.
The amount of money is ridiculous….her 400 per hour fee ..for what, I could have done a more thorough evaluation…
the prosecutor is tough and uses Aristotle's logic , good for him
Once again Mr. Jambois tears down every bit of credibility the so-called "expert" defense witness. She is so squirrelly and biased. Her critical thinking skills pale in comparison to Jambois.
She has critical thinking skills she's just purposefully being obtuse. Any professional that took one look at this case would know he was guilty to you
It drives me nuts when an expert says ‘I don’t know’ and when they play dumb about connecting the dots!
Yes! And its so obvious!
So agree - Either she's a genuine dimwitt or she's agreed to play one for a fat paycheck. I think it's the latter. Fortunately Mr. Jambois exposed her pathetic bias...
@@sharonr3725 she’s no good at trying to play dumb, it is very obvious. So fake.
@@mollycuddle9990totally agree
Her elevator is in the basement 😳
This red headed beast is going to help her brother and sell out her best friend 😢
i mean why wouldn't she help her brother, Mark would be the one to receive julie's life insurance if he is the next of kin on the paper. And the sister will get some of the money too.
I've gone through 2 divorces, yes a person may be upset, sad or even depressed about it. However, that is a situational depression, not an imbalance depression. Just because someone "thinks" their marriage is over and will end in divorce doesn't mean they will commit suicide. No papers were filed at this time. The Dr today made it seem like that is a common occurrence that people commit suicideover divorce. It would be intetesting to look at statistics. I think it's probably more common for one spouse to kill the other than to kill themselves, especially if young children were involved. Julie loved her children, she was planning on getting job, (Independence) an act of preparing or moving foward. Not one of a person planning on committing suicide.
Gotta love the lawyers. The guy actually stopped the cross examination to add the billings of the expert witness 😂
3:04 there it is…she had enough information to answer the question that were going to be asked of me….didn’t count on the cross examination being so broad…
Sorry, but Mark was a stockbroker. We would absolutely be handling the families' household financial. Mark just had Julie data enter her stuff
The bias of this pathologist is astounding
The forensic pathologist was slaughtered by the prosecutor. Excruciating...she was a witness for the prosecution. So awful it was droll.
This prosecutor is absolutely great. The lady in purple is there only for the payment she will get. Sad.
I wonder what the killer thinks, when he hears the experts say that the death was undetermined or suicide. He must be laughing inside. Although he made so many mistakes, some ppl still don’t get it. Wow
Let's just find all evil killers not GUILTY. Evil is winning in today's world. It's a shame that she had no one to speak for her.
Jambois is fighting for her like a soldier, his team, he - they really care.
@@stlounsbury I agree…they are passionate and brilliant
Jensen thrives when his lawyers ask stupid questions to the State's experts, his face lights up. innocent or guilty, I dislike this man's body language, especially facial expressions.
So Julie calls her husbands sister for lunch and confesses to an affair and being in love with a coworker to the point of wanting to marry him??
Riiiiiiight.
This man looks evil AF. He could have definitely left those smirks in his prison cell.
you should see him in the first trial. his face was way more expressive
Ms lady in purple…tsk, tsk.
She was flat because her kids were there …she didn’t want to be upset in front of them
That's what I thought.
Why is the defense attorney so happy to smile whenever she asks a question?
I feel like that's a tactic..just a way to lull the witness
Of course marks sister denies everything. He’s her sister. She’s not going to say anything to harm her brothers defense. Or so she thinks.
she probably thinks Mark would kill her too
Another hired inept mouth piece to further the confirmation of a completely inept defense.
This lady in purple has no heart , she’s siding with a murderer
She's getting paid upwards of, what, 20 grand, to put aside critical thinking skills to put on a pathetic show? Fortunately Mr. Jambois masterfully exposed every inch of her bias - hopefully the jury saw through her...
Exactly, all because of $. She's no different than a jailhouse snitch, in my opinion. So disturbing.
This family is creepy. I don’t believe his sister …. Her mouth is to spitty. She doesn’t look concerned at all. His sister is not honest. Oh. The lies you tell. So JJ walks up to her with a photo of his planner and is like oh here. What do you think? Who does that? This lady knew what JJ was talking about.
ikr! What she said made no sense. It all sounded crafted to make Julie look bad. Well, she failed.
What's with the grimacing defence lawyer? SHE looks totally insane!!!
She didn’t want to get rescued? How sick is that?
So the sister states she visited Julie’s house on the same day Julie died around 3:00…then did not visit with her so she left…then later she received a phone call to pick up Julie’s children….hmmm, what time do her children get out of school?
She also didn't remember who called her to pick up the kids!!
Yes, she also said she didn't want to wake her up? How does she know Julie was asleep? At the same time she thought no one was home???? She lied under oath. The prosecutor will bring the detective she spoke to tell him she was was worried that her brother killed her best friend
im sure mark called his sister to check on julie to see if she was dead yet. She went in the house checked on julie and then called mark to tell her that she is still alive and i think the sister was the one who turned julie to her side . She rang mark and then told him to come home and mark went in to check if she was dead.
Why would the sister bother coming by to check on julie at that time at 3 pm and the sister also stated that she had to pick up the kids from julies house, but the sister made the statement before that on the 30th of november that julie wasn't going to be seeing her for a few days because of the medication for depression so it means that julie will not be looking after the sisters children in the next few weeks. So why does the kids need to be picked up from Julies house ? And how she would not know who called her to pick up the kids ? It would have been mark making the call if mark was the one who found julie dead . Or did the sister checked on julie for mark and knew she was dead and gave herself an alibi as to why she was at the house around 3 pm.
How could the sister know that all the lights in the house was not on and that everything in the house was dark. For all she knows that julie could have been sitting in the backyard and julie switched all the lights off to save money. How was the sister in the house at 3 pm.
Mark was being nice to her….she said that herself….clearly I’m triggered by this purple woman…
I'd like to know if the taxpayers are paying this so-called expert her outrageous bill for her paid testimony? I take what this lady says with a grain of salt, only because she's going to say whatever the defense wants her to say. She didn't know Julie, yet she could sit there and arrogantly say Julie killed herself 🙄. I'm still shocked she has the nerve to ask for thousands of dollars and expect anyone to trust what she says. I find this witness as reliable as any jailhouse snitch.
JMO
Defense did good to put the female attorney in a close neck shirt and put the male by Jensen. Unfortunately the female attorney could not wear a flattering blouse like the one yesterday as I noticed creepo Frankenstein Jensen was creeping a peek down her blouse.
Ooohhhh I didn’t realize that! Good point!
This forensic phatologist is stupid? The fact that a person has depression does not mean he/ she is suicidal. Neither have mental illness.
The prosecutor is great, so calm and clever.
Someone should take a second look at all Dr. Lindsey Thomas's case . She is so dumbfounded only looks at certain people , she can't see beyond her self. Shame Shame Shame.
Can she sound and look more fake than she does? Gosh that attorney annoys the hell out of me 😅 4:59:33
She was diagnosed with marital problems? Strange disease. Never heard of that.
I'm days late for this comment but I bought my first computer Christmas of 1997 and spent a full year only playing Minecraft and Solitaire on it.
With a friend like MJs sister who needs enemies!!!!
Not that I'm an expert in body language, but do you notice that there is a lot of " turtle" , head going into raised shoulders , ) in the defense witnesses, .This raises my question to if they are trying to not answer , not sure , get out of answering, afraid of the answer ..they are uncomfortable for sure.
Shame on this purple bias woman
Mark's sister never said once that she thought Julie committed suicide. She said multiple times that she thought it was 'drug interaction'. I dont know how that isn't telling.
So i guess mark's sister knew that mark poisoned her with antifreeze which would have had an interaction with the drugs that she was taking.
So much of purple lady's testimony is speculation but the prosecutor never objected. I think she's over the line and shouldn't be part of her pathology expertise. I use that word "expertise" lightly. Also I'm surprised that the defense doesn't object to the prosecutor basically testifying. He's doing everything he can for Julie.
His sister's reasoning reminds me of Darrell Brooks and that's NOT a good look.....
It seems Jambois and the lady in purple have had some history… argumentative all the way
I love how it rolls his eye at her answers but always polite. Jury won't like her unless you bully or ridicule her, then they might feel for her. He does it just right. What a crony.
1:39:00 Prosecutor: "Were you aware that Mark Jensen had been torturing - gaslighting - his wife for years and years and years before her death?"
Dr Thompson: "I'm kinda struggling with all of the factors here..."
Prosecutor (interrupting): "blah blah blah..."
Judge: "Let her finish" (ie, "let her dig her own grave")
Thank you, Judge, for stopping Mr Motormouth Prosecutor from ruining his own case by interrupting the hostile witness, stopping her from undermining her own credibility!
:)
3:02:10 Oh, Mr Motormouth Prosecutor! You missed it - you are so intent on bulldozing until you get your witness to simply agree with whatever you say, you completely missed it when she contradicted herself in disagreeing with you!! Specifically, it went like this:
You: "You have no evidence of homicide"
She: "I have a lot of evidence of homicide..."
You (interrupting again): " But..."
and argued with her instead of just saying "Aha! So you admit it!!"
No offence, Mr one-track P, but i think you are well past your "use-by" date, - if Mark gets off, it will be your fault.
Dr Thompson is a liar, you can see in every bit of her cross examination that she was paid to say that julie died of suicide . Even the way she smiles at the prosecutor because she knows that he knows that she was paid to lie. And being the stupid woman that she is she also has ruined her reputation as a DR for this rubbish investigation for her all for 20k . Everyone will remember her as a corrupted Dr Thompson.
@@JK-jj9ko She's not even a competent liar, as both you and i and i'm sure many other observers can easily see through her deception. But her cross-examination may yet get Mark off, because it revealed that the Prosecutor is hell-bent on proving suffocation as the cause of death, which is almost impossible to prove as there is no forensic evidence to support it (inhalation of pillow fibres would be about the only possible indication, and that wasn't tested by the Medical Examiner).
If The Prosecutor carries on like he's been going, he will shoot himself in the foot and Mark will escape justice.
This case provides an overwhelming argument for rewriting the law regarding the purpose of postmortem Medical Examination and forensic pathology - it should clearly be limited to addressing Cause of death, but not Manner, as distinguishing between accident, suicide and homicide requires skills, knowledge and patience beyond the reach of most hard-pressed MEs and paid-by-the-hour pathology experts.
Here, there is a mountain of circumstantial evidence supporting homicide by poisoning, but only one blabbermouth (Mark himself, relayed by a proven conman) supporting homicide by suffocation.
Please wake up, Mr Prosecutor, before it's too late!
As heinous as this case is .. .. is it just me or does the chubby guy in the black t-shirt, behind the prosecutor (1:54:16) kinda look like his left arm is up to no good..? I mean, he keeps looking over his shoulder
I thought he was falling asleep
What kind of doctor are you? Lol.
People are slating 'the lady in purple' for sticking to her view that suicide is more likely than murder, but why is she even being asked to proffer an opinion? She's as an expert in toxicology, can of course speak to 'cause' of death, but the 'manner' through which Julie Jensen came to consume the antifreeze has surely to be explored/established by the police and prosecution and it's then for the jury to decide who they believe.
Well i think the jury will find that julie did not die of suicide especially when they realised that Dr Thompsons examination was full of rubbish and was paid to lie .
@@JK-jj9ko I'm not suggesting otherwise, I'm just questioning why an expert in toxicology, who wasn't one of the police investigators, is being asked for her opinion on the manner of death: we know how she died and the question of the manner of death is for the jury, not for a toxicologist. Every human being on the planet, including those with zero education, is in just a good a position as Dr Thompson in terms of proffering an opinion on whether it was suicide or murder (or indeed accidental ingestion).
That pony tail defense lady needs to attempt some professionalism
She is just awful. So juvenile. That nauseating high pitched voice and overly friendly act is truly sickening in this setting.
Yup, she creeps me out.
How could this woman, set there a lie
Did David Jensen testify?
Monday possibly
@@mollycuddle9990 thank you!
Her senile (greedy) chuckling.
Some “best friend” marks sister is..
I wonder if the lady in purple would get a bonus if they won
I honestly don’t believe there’s enough to convict this man. Regardless of my personal opinion, if I were on the jury I’d believe there’s definitely reasonable doubt.
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everyone loving Jambois...hes good but I just read he shoved a defense attorney who he lost to in 2000 and is known as a "hot head"
Sorry, but I find him very attractive but I don't know if he killed his wife, or only for one letter that she could write only for her extra imagination, made him guilty. You never know. It is hard...to know. Her autopsy wasn't good enough. She could abuse with her pills. If they divorced when she was with another men in her bedroom...now everyone will be better. Mark was suffering a lot with that affair that she had...this made him has obsession about penis. He needed to divorce in that moment.
this has to be a joke.
6:00:37 yeah eat a snack 😑
This trial has the worst defendant, defense and prosecutor. Mark is so creepy. His bizzar smile reminds me of that clown in the Simpson's. The female attorney for the defense is brutal. Her questions are pointless and have done nothing for mark. The prosecutor is so extremely bias to get that guilty he is overly aggressive, rude and very condescending. He treats the witnesses like crap any time they say they can't recall.
The prosecutor is being a rude and condescending jerk. When you talk to people like that you can come across the wrong way to a jury. He must have said "were you aware of that" at least 100 times. And when she doesn't remember it he makes it seem like that is a problem unless your thrv
That's called a cross examination. That's their job, just like the condescending defense upon cross.
It’s the experts job to be aware of that. Because otherwise you cannot determine an objective reason for death, can you?
I can’t stand the prosecutor in this case. He’s so rude to the defense witnesses and experts. I think mark is guilty, but if I was on that jury, his anger and rude behavior wouldn’t help his case. I almost feel as if this case is his personal vendetta.
I don’t see it that way. He is the voice for Julie Jensen and is passionate about giving her justice. Some of the witnesses deserve his “rudeness “.
He is walking free soon!
Mark has done 15 yrs. Time to let.him go. He wont kill again.
You're funny.
He'll be there till he dies if there's true justice! The nerve of him to sit there amongst us just to get a few weeks out, smirking and acting like he's innocent!
No. Life. Cope. 🥰
Marry him and find out.
Silly tart