That was a perfect time to cut that feed last night .. right in the middle of a huge council announcement that would effect the citizens and the city. Great job
Murphy and herkenroder met before council and decided he was going to call for the question . It’s the only way she would have known what he was going to do
The day that Kiara May with the DDA went before council for her appointment I agreed with the members that didn’t think she was experienced enough for the job. Something about her was off to me, especially that wink she gave Ladell Lewis when she walked off. I’m not surprised she was misusing funds. Why is Ladell constantly quoting the rule book, but breaks them? Glad Herkenroder is leaving, but no telling what is to come from that. Quincy and Mays are more alike than they’ll admit. I can remember Quincy going off on his colleagues when they vote a resolution of his down, but he’s mad when mays does it.
3:19:32 Once again, Mr. Lewis is very lost and I question her credentials and ethics. Anyone with a fully functioning brain, who has worked for any chapter of government and/or in corporate America, knows that it is usually strictly against policy, across the board, to use corp business cards (p-card, Amex, etc.) for ANY personal use - it is a misuse. If there are no business cards, employees usually pay out of pocket and are then reimbursed by the company…rarely is it ever the other way around as Lewis tried to quickly say. I, honestly, can’t believe she said that out loud and with such conviction. SMH. It is sad that no one else caught that or tried to school her on this basic fact, outside of Priestly, and I’m surprised Priestly said anything bc usually they go along with it no matter how blatantly wrong they may be. Too much corruption going on with absolutely no checks and balances. Everything is rubber-stamped. Exact reason as to why I noted a couple weeks back that Lewis would definitely abuse anything provided to her to do any official business (mileage reimbursement). If I were Neely, I would really want to get my house in order, soon! That administration is failing the residents and it is sad to watch.
Excellent observation. She wants a city vehicle/fuel card so bad lol. I remember her complaining about gas money in the budget meetings a few weeks ago. She clearly thought this council was gonna be a come up for her and it ain't turning out that way. There's a reason why she's flashing that sociology PhD but she ain't at a university or somewhere in management at a corporation.
I agree and i thought that was weird how she wanted be reimbursed mileage for doing her job. Those true color came out quick over that. She has no ethics or etiquette. And i can see that in how she takes shot on FB.
I couldn’t believe she sat there and said that. But she wanted that lady in that position I remember the day she was appointed, and the lady even winked at ladell as she walked off. I can’t believe Quincy isn’t in support of an investigation though.
@@HARRIS4276 Ladel is a whole different kind of councilwoman. JWC may be quiet but she takes no bs and fight her ward. Tanya Burn asks the questions administration dont want anyone to ask all in the love for her Ward. Galloway was just like JWC and Burns. I think them 3 can fix the mess with Mays and Quincy. But Quincy is in support of the investigation because the world is watching. Arthur Woodson said at one poiny that sometimes Quincy has blind loyalty but means well. And i think Ladel and Eva play on that weakness.
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Like Eric Mays said to Scott Kincaid, "Take Your Marbles and Go Home." Like Eric Mays said to Quincy Murphy, Take Your Toys and Go Home." Bye Allie! Eva, Pffeifer, Preastley, Lewis, yall next if yall keep it up.
@@one007guy Sounds like something wrong with rest of council. Theres been to many meetings where hes not even there and theres still an issue or conflict, or the resolutions getting passed do nothing for the poor or disenfranchised people of Flint. You gotta remember, Eric is in that part of flint no one cares about. Ive seen him grow into a more calmer councilman who asks the questions that no one wants in order to get business done. I really to whats goin in these meetings and ive learn something. The administration is slowly turning into an Emergency Manager city again. Theres way to much bypassing of the council which is not how government work. Mays is long winded, but sometimes you got to see the method behind the madness.
Mays calls them out for their hypocrisy while they are committing hypocrisy. The chairperson does not adhere to the rules when it pertains to the shady bunch, but soon as the 3 Flint Fighters speak, the chairperson provokes them in order to issue them warnings.
Erica Mays is a pillar of the community! Is Mr. Mays still President? They’re are trying to railroad him. He’s just genuine and cares for the constituents! Seems the only person beside Ms. Winfrey Carter that cares. I pray for his protection.
It’s blatantly obvious that the “shady bunch” is running this council without any structure or respect for fellow council members or the city of Flint for that matter. People can say what they want about Mays, but one thing you can’t say is that he doesn’t know his stuff. “Lost a good one”, what a joke.
The only thing blatant is the ignorance in this city- stop drinking the kool-aid or should I say flint water. The black Jim Jones you refer to as Mays is sabatoging the entire city. Instead of being an elder, an example, a leader he's more of a sideshow. Entertaining poor black folk blind by alot of yelling and pump faking. Might explain why the city and culture still disenfranchised and delusional. But hey seems like flint folk like chaos. Don't get me wrong I'm sure the spectators enjoy laughing at the circus 🤹♂️ if your city is known for bad water & an a eccentric/ erratic council person 🥺
Paul ended this recording before council meeting was adjourned bc his bias shows so deeply. Herkenroller making an announcement she is leaving for health reasons. I wish her no ill will but the Fab 5 mess is crumbling. She was wrong fro orchestrating an illegal takeover of the council with Fab 5. Now all of a sudden someone told the public about her medical issues ? Who did you tell if you wanted to truly keep it quiet? lLord, speak to her during her time of need. Help her see you and your care for us and reach her ❤
Lady J agreed, I noticed that too, I thought it was jus me! I always here some type of noise anytime Mr Mays especially,Ms Winfrey Carter and now Ms Burns are speaking and right about the time they are making a strong or key point of whatever motion or discussion they're having..
Lady J,she could be stricken with sickness as a Judgement by YAH for putting her hand on HIS Book and Testa-Lyin on a Hebrew man. YAH don't like unrepentant false witnesses so called yt or black. This ish on that council is Personal, Not Business and she is/was part of the problem.. hopefully it's not another demon coming to take her place,May YAH be with the citizens of Flint..
1:14:38 Quincey, you are a liar. I've backed watch plenty of these meetings and Mr. Mays always waits to be given the floor. You may not like his approach bit he knows what he's doing. You could get a lot done if you would stop personally attacking Mr. Mays. Not agree with him but stop making everything about him.
Phifer don't let Herkenroder drag you into that bull and her antics. Stop playing politics. Love it or hate it Mr. Mays knows what the proper order of business is, yall are so busy voting against everything he says you are missing the teaching. Yes, teaching! Majority-Fab 5 or 6 have a lot of learning to do. And Flint administration is terrible the Mayor should be holding the department heads accountable.
I saw that cus they were trying to have a quiet discussion about the time ticking down speaking to the dept heads. Pffeifer seem to agree with bs but as usual, sits back and lets it continue.
The 3 Mays Musketeers holdig the entire city hostage some of the residents have Stockholm syndrome. If Mays is the best you have to represent the first ward damn 1st ward behind lost
I don’t understand too much of what councilman Murphy says. That’s not being said disrespectfully, but if I don’t understand him then how can others 🤷🏽♀️communication is key 🔑
Hello Mr Mays. This comment is just a thought that maybe a good idea that could help to stop people fro destroying the street lights you all are discussing. I think solar lights will be a great idea and could say money in the budget and will look very, very nice and will probably be less costly to replace when damaged. GOD BLESS the panel.
I've learned so much from Mays on how city's are run due to his disdain for the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 7th, 8th, and 9th wards. I thank you all for your vindictiveness.
Murphy 19:59 whines more than a newborn baby.. When he talks I cringe in shame, he wants to be articulate so badly he just throws words together! He's probably a good person personally; but this job is not for him! And he need to stop following behind Lewis. It's like she his role model or something.
The more he try to sound articulate, the dumber he sound.. and all he do is repeat himself two or three time.. he should just slow down and think about what he want to say b4 saying.
1:15 Murphy wants to get the business of the city done but he rambled on for five minutes basically acknowledging he didn't have the floor. Dishonest and childish
I wish no ill will on someone's health but she was not a fair council president at all glad to see Monica Galloway come back it's about to get real good now the votes4 votes 5
They ended their beef and ended up on the same side after 2020. All of these clips of them clashing are pre 2020. Check out the audio meetings during covid.
Her backing Mays is what made her lose. And yes it was a color thing. Galloway was at the fore front with May exposing Eva and Fields over abuse of power and it went against her. But she held on to her values and i respect that. I hope she comes back, the hopefully Eva will take them sunglasses and go home.
I hope Miss Herkenroder can get her life and health back in order.This toxic hate-filled environment wouldn't be conducive to any decent persons well-being.Remember evil seeks its source and always comes back for its payment in full❗ALWAYS❗
Exactly. After watching council meetings since 2016 I'm convinced if Mays was gone the business would get done. He's like a MTG or Boebert, only a Democrat. Sad!
@@one007guyno if the rest of the council was not racist, biased, and had a genuine interest in fairness, willing to work together for the betterment of the people of Flint, the business would get done. Mays is only guilty for calling out the blatant garbage politics involving that trash council.
@@one007guy exactly I find Mays to be entertaining but not at all productive. At times he is holding the city hostage with with his antics. POINT OF ORDER, POINT OF INFORMATION...Why would anyone want to work on that council?
@@curtiswilliams3027 after 3 different councils and Mays continued arguing with White folk, Black folk, Hispanic folk you think things would change. Maybe it's a sole issue with the person in Ward 1. Remove him and things go smoothly. It just wouldn't be as entertaining for TikTok and UA-cam!
@@one007guy What people fail to realize is that every council person has a responsibility and personality. People don’t like Councilman May’s style which is based off his personality. Guess what, they all have way abouts. The Odds will b even because the political establishment will be altered to a less biased setting. With that being said decisions and council meeting will run better. The more they loose worthless council people, there will be an effective change that is for the betterment of Flint, Michigan. Mays is one individual that speaks out against a lot of things people don’t understand. People find his yelling entertaining, but if they truly knew what he is fighting against(the root of these problems) they would cease there judgment.
This is the second whole meeting I’ve watched. There is so much bickering and BS I’m surprised they get anything done. Completely dysfunctional 🫣. I do believe that time limits on discussions can be counterproductive if a topic truly needs a lengthy discussion.
That was a perfect time to cut that feed last night .. right in the middle of a huge council announcement that would effect the citizens and the city. Great job
Each council member plays their part for why this council is the way it is.
Disagree
Murphy and herkenroder met before council and decided he was going to call for the question . It’s the only way she would have known what he was going to do
The day that Kiara May with the DDA went before council for her appointment I agreed with the members that didn’t think she was experienced enough for the job. Something about her was off to me, especially that wink she gave Ladell Lewis when she walked off. I’m not surprised she was misusing funds.
Why is Ladell constantly quoting the rule book, but breaks them?
Glad Herkenroder is leaving, but no telling what is to come from that.
Quincy and Mays are more alike than they’ll admit. I can remember Quincy going off on his colleagues when they vote a resolution of his down, but he’s mad when mays does it.
I agree!
3:19:32 Once again, Mr. Lewis is very lost and I question her credentials and ethics. Anyone with a fully functioning brain, who has worked for any chapter of government and/or in corporate America, knows that it is usually strictly against policy, across the board, to use corp business cards (p-card, Amex, etc.) for ANY personal use - it is a misuse. If there are no business cards, employees usually pay out of pocket and are then reimbursed by the company…rarely is it ever the other way around as Lewis tried to quickly say. I, honestly, can’t believe she said that out loud and with such conviction. SMH. It is sad that no one else caught that or tried to school her on this basic fact, outside of Priestly, and I’m surprised Priestly said anything bc usually they go along with it no matter how blatantly wrong they may be. Too much corruption going on with absolutely no checks and balances. Everything is rubber-stamped. Exact reason as to why I noted a couple weeks back that Lewis would definitely abuse anything provided to her to do any official business (mileage reimbursement). If I were Neely, I would really want to get my house in order, soon! That administration is failing the residents and it is sad to watch.
Excellent observation. She wants a city vehicle/fuel card so bad lol. I remember her complaining about gas money in the budget meetings a few weeks ago.
She clearly thought this council was gonna be a come up for her and it ain't turning out that way. There's a reason why she's flashing that sociology PhD but she ain't at a university or somewhere in management at a corporation.
@@billyjackson2219Her sociology PhD definitely does her no good. They mustve just passed her to get her out of the way.
I agree and i thought that was weird how she wanted be reimbursed mileage for doing her job. Those true color came out quick over that.
She has no ethics or etiquette. And i can see that in how she takes shot on FB.
I couldn’t believe she sat there and said that. But she wanted that lady in that position I remember the day she was appointed, and the lady even winked at ladell as she walked off. I can’t believe Quincy isn’t in support of an investigation though.
@@HARRIS4276 Ladel is a whole different kind of councilwoman. JWC may be quiet but she takes no bs and fight her ward. Tanya Burn asks the questions administration dont want anyone to ask all in the love for her Ward. Galloway was just like JWC and Burns. I think them 3 can fix the mess with Mays and Quincy.
But Quincy is in support of the investigation because the world is watching. Arthur Woodson said at one poiny that sometimes Quincy has blind loyalty but means well. And i think Ladel and Eva play on that weakness.
BYE FELICIA
Lewis and Murphy is talking sideline while someone else is speaking. Completely out of order
Why they were not warned
@Lolean Kimmons she had an attitude against mays from day one. Sorry,I don't have any sympathy. Winfrey Carter has MS but she keeps going on.
@@evamillhouse4705 they always do
@@evamillhouse4705 because that's how allie chairs. Now if it were eric mays...........
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I'll be praying for your clerk cause yall give her Hell. 😩
Herkenroder was already gonna recall lol she coudnt take it i wouldnt be surprised if lewis next
@Robby Battle the raging bull
Pfiffer should run all the meetings. With anyone else, its chaos! 😔
Agree, from what I show in previous meeting, he did at least TRY to make it work.
Like Eric Mays said to Scott Kincaid, "Take Your Marbles and Go Home."
Like Eric Mays said to Quincy Murphy, Take Your Toys and Go Home."
Bye Allie!
Eva, Pffeifer, Preastley, Lewis, yall next if yall keep it up.
And then 6 mo council folk will come and he'll fight them too! Maybe it's a sole issue with Ward 1's Council Person?
@@one007guy Sounds like something wrong with rest of council. Theres been to many meetings where hes not even there and theres still an issue or conflict, or the resolutions getting passed do nothing for the poor or disenfranchised people of Flint.
You gotta remember, Eric is in that part of flint no one cares about. Ive seen him grow into a more calmer councilman who asks the questions that no one wants in order to get business done. I really to whats goin in these meetings and ive learn something. The administration is slowly turning into an Emergency Manager city again.
Theres way to much bypassing of the council which is not how government work.
Mays is long winded, but sometimes you got to see the method behind the madness.
Mays calls them out for their hypocrisy while they are committing hypocrisy. The chairperson does not adhere to the rules when it pertains to the shady bunch, but soon as the 3 Flint Fighters speak, the chairperson provokes them in order to issue them warnings.
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂😂😂😂
Erica Mays is a pillar of the community! Is Mr. Mays still President? They’re are trying to railroad him. He’s just genuine and cares for the constituents! Seems the only person beside Ms. Winfrey Carter that cares. I pray for his protection.
It’s blatantly obvious that the “shady bunch” is running this council without any structure or respect for fellow council members or the city of Flint for that matter. People can say what they want about Mays, but one thing you can’t say is that he doesn’t know his stuff. “Lost a good one”, what a joke.
Santa Mays has been getting his butt whooped at council meetings for 10 years. Mays is all blow and no go, you goof.
The only thing blatant is the ignorance in this city- stop drinking the kool-aid or should I say flint water. The black Jim Jones you refer to as Mays is sabatoging the entire city. Instead of being an elder, an example, a leader he's more of a sideshow. Entertaining poor black folk blind by alot of yelling and pump faking. Might explain why the city and culture still disenfranchised and delusional. But hey seems like flint folk like chaos. Don't get me wrong I'm sure the spectators enjoy laughing at the circus 🤹♂️ if your city is known for bad water & an a eccentric/ erratic council person 🥺
The stream stopped in the middle of allie herkenroders resignation speach.
Now is Mrs. Mays, I mean Mrs. Galloway’s chance to hop back in the goofy rules!
I'm pretty sure Monica is already printing flyers and t shirts lol. It would make some great meetings having her back.
My vote would be Mr. Woodson !!!
@@one007guyI hope Monica does come back. I been listening to the electronic meetings and Monica kept Evil Eva in check.
@@313_FeezySMH
Can you tell me why the video was abruptly ended?
What a side show. Love when mays mess with all them. 😂
Paul ended this recording before council meeting was adjourned bc his bias shows so deeply. Herkenroller making an announcement she is leaving for health reasons. I wish her no ill will but the Fab 5 mess is crumbling. She was wrong fro orchestrating an illegal takeover of the council with Fab 5. Now all of a sudden someone told the public about her medical issues ? Who did you tell if you wanted to truly keep it quiet? lLord, speak to her during her time of need. Help her see you and your care for us and reach her ❤
Ya, and pray to the Lord for 1st Ward too. May he not use the Lord’s name in vain ever again. And May he work with council rather than fight! Amen!
@@one007guy how is Mays using the lord's name in vain?
@@one007guy oh Jason go away.
Lady J agreed, I noticed that too, I thought it was jus me! I always here some type of noise anytime Mr Mays especially,Ms Winfrey Carter and now Ms Burns are speaking and right about the time they are making a strong or key point of whatever motion or discussion they're having..
Lady J,she could be stricken with sickness as a Judgement by YAH for putting her hand on HIS Book and Testa-Lyin on a Hebrew man. YAH don't like unrepentant false witnesses so called yt or black. This ish on that council is Personal, Not Business and she is/was part of the problem.. hopefully it's not another demon coming to take her place,May YAH be with the citizens of Flint..
1:14:38 Quincey, you are a liar. I've backed watch plenty of these meetings and Mr. Mays always waits to be given the floor. You may not like his approach bit he knows what he's doing. You could get a lot done if you would stop personally attacking Mr. Mays. Not agree with him but stop making everything about him.
1:52:49 Q, finally!!! You may not like how Mays gets there but he got you there.
Phifer don't let Herkenroder drag you into that bull and her antics. Stop playing politics. Love it or hate it Mr. Mays knows what the proper order of business is, yall are so busy voting against everything he says you are missing the teaching. Yes, teaching! Majority-Fab 5 or 6 have a lot of learning to do. And Flint administration is terrible the Mayor should be holding the department heads accountable.
I saw that cus they were trying to have a quiet discussion about the time ticking down speaking to the dept heads. Pffeifer seem to agree with bs but as usual, sits back and lets it continue.
Like Mays said, The administration has that Emergency Manager like vibe to them.
The 3 Mays Musketeers holdig the entire city hostage some of the residents have Stockholm syndrome. If Mays is the best you have to represent the first ward damn 1st ward behind lost
1:52:20 😂😂 JWC checked Judy
3:06:49 Point of information.
By saying raggily do you meam "raggedy" Mr Murphy?
I don’t understand too much of what councilman Murphy says. That’s not being said disrespectfully, but if I don’t understand him then how can others 🤷🏽♀️communication is key 🔑
47:21 I said Get THEY ASS MAYS!👏🙌👏
Hello Mr Mays. This comment is just a thought that maybe a good idea that could help to stop people fro destroying the street lights you all are discussing. I think solar lights will be a great idea and could say money in the budget and will look very, very nice and will probably be less costly to replace when damaged. GOD BLESS the panel.
4:16:43 do glad ali is leaving she’s so dismissive and acts like she’s above it all!
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉one of the witches are gone
How many times does burns
say transparent.?
big respect to Mr Eric Mays... I'm learning a lot from you Sir... blessings from North Carolina
What a joke
Councilman Murphy needs speech therapy
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Why did you cut the video WTF DUDE
Maybe he didn't.
@@Hanzyscure shut up
ua-cam.com/users/live96tzUry580E?feature=share
Still cuts off with that link
4:14:49 lewis didn’t like that😂😂
@lady J speaks sense
Vote Murphy out next election !
I've learned so much from Mays on how city's are run due to his disdain for the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 7th, 8th, and 9th wards. I thank you all for your vindictiveness.
Murphy 19:59 whines more than a newborn baby.. When he talks I cringe in shame, he wants to be articulate so badly he just throws words together! He's probably a good person personally; but this job is not for him! And he need to stop following behind Lewis. It's like she his role model or something.
The more he try to sound articulate, the dumber he sound.. and all he do is repeat himself two or three time.. he should just slow down and think about what he want to say b4 saying.
49:58 Hell no! The clock wtf was said?!
GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!!!!!!!
38:44 Get they ass Mays!🙌
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Why is Quincy on the council? He's very emotionally petty.
Mays was so jealous of Allie
1:00:00 So damn Aggressive🤨
They really rejected a measure to spend more time to discuss a budget? So biased and ridiculous
Ms Carter has some scary EYES🙄
1:10:00 Devilishness- nessness
What she crying fa? 😂
Eva must be drunk
No she isn't!
1:15 Murphy wants to get the business of the city done but he rambled on for five minutes basically acknowledging he didn't have the floor. Dishonest and childish
I wish no ill will on someone's health but she was not a fair council president at all glad to see Monica Galloway come back it's about to get real good now the votes4 votes 5
If Galloway Come back Mays is Done 😂
Not necessarily, they are friends now so they started a new working relationship.
No, he wanted her over Worthing. She barely won and the whites turned on Galloway bc they didn't need her anymore. Now she sees the light
They ended their beef and ended up on the same side after 2020. All of these clips of them clashing are pre 2020. Check out the audio meetings during covid.
@@JrichSwag21 lol...friends? Mays said there are no friends in politics. One wrong word from her and he'll go all HAM!
Her backing Mays is what made her lose. And yes it was a color thing. Galloway was at the fore front with May exposing Eva and Fields over abuse of power and it went against her.
But she held on to her values and i respect that. I hope she comes back, the hopefully Eva will take them sunglasses and go home.
I hope Miss Herkenroder can get her life and health back in order.This toxic hate-filled environment wouldn't be conducive to any decent persons well-being.Remember evil seeks its source and always comes back for its payment in full❗ALWAYS❗
Source as in Evil Eva Worthing? Cus when Mays is gone she keeps the "evil" going.
@@Blackjuans No… “Source” as in you’re a moron, just like your boyfriend Eric “Santa” Mays.
@@darwingraves372You've been one of the biggest morons in any of the comments.
Quit barking up the wrong tree and go follow Daddy Neely around.
#lovelylois Murphy needs speech therapy bad! And Dr Louis… Dr. of WHAT?
36:54 Absentee Shady bunch...😮
Eva need to remove her shades😎 She always want to call someone else unprofessional…yet she is very tacky
Flint lost a good one! 🎉 ppl rather be entertained by the 3 mays musketeers than have a civilized meeting
Who Herkenroder?
Exactly. After watching council meetings since 2016 I'm convinced if Mays was gone the business would get done. He's like a MTG or Boebert, only a Democrat. Sad!
Lost a good one???? Yeah something is definitely wrong with yall's water if you think she was good.
@@one007guyno if the rest of the council was not racist, biased, and had a genuine interest in fairness, willing to work together for the betterment of the people of Flint, the business would get done. Mays is only guilty for calling out the blatant garbage politics involving that trash council.
@@one007guy exactly I find Mays to be entertaining but not at all productive. At times he is holding the city hostage with with his antics. POINT OF ORDER, POINT OF INFORMATION...Why would anyone want to work on that council?
Flint just lost one of their best
No, they lost one of the worst. It is time for a change in these meetings. Even the Odds.
@@curtiswilliams3027 after 3 different councils and Mays continued arguing with White folk, Black folk, Hispanic folk you think things would change. Maybe it's a sole issue with the person in Ward 1. Remove him and things go smoothly. It just wouldn't be as entertaining for TikTok and UA-cam!
@@one007guy What people fail to realize is that every council person has a responsibility and personality. People don’t like Councilman May’s style which is based off his personality. Guess what, they all have way abouts. The Odds will b even because the political establishment will be altered to a less biased setting. With that being said decisions and council meeting will run better. The more they loose worthless council people, there will be an effective change that is for the betterment of Flint, Michigan. Mays is one individual that speaks out against a lot of things people don’t understand. People find his yelling entertaining, but if they truly knew what he is fighting against(the root of these problems) they would cease there judgment.
This is the second whole meeting I’ve watched. There is so much bickering and BS I’m surprised they get anything done. Completely dysfunctional 🫣.
I do believe that time limits on discussions can be counterproductive if a topic truly needs a lengthy discussion.