Yeah and even more so people forget that the whole concept of “no moving” and nmpz would have been possible only with geowizard starting it as a series which became the most interesting ones, you would NEVER see a Geoguessr tournament the way it is without him. Before him people basically knew only moving.
Adding a comment about the breathing sounds, not to hate, just to highlight how important it is to get that fixed because it's truly affecting the video negatively. Thanks for the content!
Agree with all of your takes on the new weekly league. The NMPZ players get the short end of the stick to put it mildly. Also, thanks for giving GeoWizard props. His content is absolutely how I came to watch Geoguessr content. Love the channel by the way.
@@kevray85so is memorising place names and phone numbers. NMPZ actually uses a lot of geography and even botany to make guesses, and regionguessing countries by vegetation soil type etc is pure geography, more so than moving.
Strongly agree with you that 3 points for 2 wins makes no sense and they need to play the dead rubbers. I can imagine players who are desperate to win the no move game because they are much weaker at NMPZ and very likely to lose it. So if they win a close no move they get 3 points when they almost certainly would have gotten 1 point if they had lost it.
I first played Geoguessr after watching a smaller youtuber who used to stream himself editing videos, sometimes he'd play gg when taking breaks. Then a few years later, I saw Pewdiepie playing it and got back into it, after it had become pay-to-play. Just paid for one month and was pretty tired of it after that. Then I came across Geowizard's videos, I think it was only about 2 and a half years ago. That is what got me into it bigtime. Got hooked on duels in particular and looked for tips videos, finding this channel.
I get them leaving out GeoWizard I don't think his impact has been direct enough to bring him up in a conversation about esports directly. When doing the history of geoguessr sure he would be a big part but as far as the sports Go I mean he's just an inspiration for people that play. The one I found an excusable is that they didn't really talk about rainbolt enough, he kind of is the reason that esports has any legs he's kind of the whole thing. Even when they talked about the casters they just mentioned literally all the casters that are the worst and don't really add anything to the broadcast just because they have name recognition. I mean they're fine but if they weren't there I wouldn't miss them. But really rainbolt with his tournaments and lending his skills to the casting desk which he is an amazing Castor and the only reason that I even find the world cup worth watching.
Bruh, rainbolt himself started playing because of GeoWizard. I see what you are trying to say about the e-sport part, but without the contribution of GeoWizard there is no chance the game even gains enough popularity to become an e-sport
GeoWizard 🐐 his contributions to the game's popularity and love are huge par none. His skills when there was not much meta or other clue knowledge known was excellent. Drove thousands of people to fall in love with the game.
It's actually really surprising it took this long. Just this year I was beginning to think Geoguessr was on a downturn and that it had peaked in 2022-early 2023 (with the wave of viral Rainbolt clips). Now I'm excited to see where this goes!
I don't think the esports is big enough yet to split up into gamemodes but I like the idea of picking your gamemodes before the game like the way you would choose your maps in cs for example to battle disadvantages nmpz-players might be having at the moment
With other games like shooters or racing simulators I never got any good because I am lacking the dexterity and motor skills and I am not good at strategizing. Now I am too old anyway and could never be as quick on the trigger as a 17 year old. But in Geoguessr you don't need any of that, but you "just" need to know stuff. It is almost like a quiz with a bit of a more advanced user interface. And I find it cool to be able to tell the Spanish road signs from the German ones, so I am happy to learn that stuff. That is why Geoguessr is the first game that kept me engaged for years now.
I started watching through geowizard, I think with his find a random subscriber from a list sent in. Then got into GeoGuessr from there. Can’t believe he wasn’t even mentioned
The problem with the ordering of the rounds in the World League hadn't occurred to me before watching this - playing all three games would definitely be better to even up the three formats. I was also amused when they said how the game could appeal to parents, as I'm a parent who started playing when my son suggested we try watching the world cup qualifiers earlier this year 🙂 I don't play any other computer games and it's really lovely having a game that we can play together.
I don't expect them to drop moving as their main play style for a while. I think moving is the way a lot of casual people play the game and if someone watches a stream and wants to give it a go then moving probably makes the game look more accessible.
Agree that the NMPZ could be made more prevalent and world league point system should be reviewed... BUT (in all friendship) I disagree that modes should be split at bigger competition level. Being world champion should be rewarding the most complete player who wins. This should be more balanced I agree, but in Grand Slam tennis tournaments, there isn't one tournament for net players and another for baseline players. At most some surfaces that fit more one style or the other.
I've been playing with my girlfriend for a bit more than a month now and for me the biggest hurdle to "understanding" the game is how the scoring works. IMO the information on scoring, and especially how duels work, is quite lacking. I've now figured out how duel damage works but it's just not obvious for a brand new player and the documentation is poor. Also, it's easy for a new player to get "stuck" in the single player "Campaign" mode. I probably would not have realized there was anything other than Campaign if it weren't for you and rainbolt's videos.
It would be cool for the nmpz players to protest somehow during the live games, a bit like RC was planning to do for the round limit but without miscomunication 😂 Something drastic to show the developpers and the audience that this format is not ok, like both playing nmpz during moving or something like that
you should really upload reaction videos like this on your main channel, they tend to do very well on youtube. I understand they probably seem like lower effort content, but for some reason reaction videos do pretty well.
Moving is heavily centered around being able to work with textual information you see on signs etc. In NMPZ you rarely have any significant amount of such information available but rather you have to rely on the landscape, vegetation and "vibes" of the location. So NMPZ tends to be much more intuitive whereas moving takes a lot of deliberate study and memorization like learning the names of obscure towns and learning to read all the different writing systems out there and so on. No move is somewhere in between. Also, being able to effectively navigate in moving to find the information you need is a separate skill.
Regarding the format, I guess they are still figuring things out and I hope they will tweak it over the coming years. As the company behind the game they have to stand their ground a bit and can't just change things because some players think this is better and other players think that is better. And there are always more stakes involved, like having to make a profit, pleasing sponsors, making the game approachable to new people, keeping the viewers engaged, and so on. For me who has been here since the first Rainbold tournaments (was that 2 years ago? Or longer?) the official streams are waaaaaayyy too slow, and I always start watching 2 hours late in order to skip all the pauses and most of the "yapping" between rounds. It is just too much filler and too slow of a pace. When the Rainbolt tournaments had time limits per round and some teams weren't able to spend literally 15 minutes on a round, there was game after game after game, but on the World League you are watching 4 games in 4 hours, or something like that.
not talking about geowizard in a video about the history of geoguessr is crazy
Yeah and even more so people forget that the whole concept of “no moving” and nmpz would have been possible only with geowizard starting it as a series which became the most interesting ones, you would NEVER see a Geoguessr tournament the way it is without him. Before him people basically knew only moving.
@@GeoCrusader Thank you for the lore
Yeah. The nm and nmpz modes most likely would've never been added
I found this game through Geowizards videos being recommended to me through gaming. Cant believe they left the largest creator out of this video.
i cant believe geoguessr explained got zi8gzag in one of his videos
collab i never saw coming tbh
Mrbeast Ronaldo moment
The breathing sounds truly complete this video
they're what made me want click off the video immediately. had to check if someone already commented on it lmao
It particularly increases when zig gets frustrated about having to play moving
oops lol
The Alberta bollard in the corner behind FAU is peak interior design. Love it. 😀
16:30 super impressed that the devs managed to nerf NMPZ even more than the last world cup group stage format
Adding a comment about the breathing sounds, not to hate, just to highlight how important it is to get that fixed because it's truly affecting the video negatively. Thanks for the content!
Agree with all of your takes on the new weekly league. The NMPZ players get the short end of the stick to put it mildly. Also, thanks for giving GeoWizard props. His content is absolutely how I came to watch Geoguessr content. Love the channel by the way.
NMPZ gets the short end because for fans of actual geography, NMPZ is not fun. Memorizing car and pole metas is not geography.
@@kevray85so is memorising place names and phone numbers. NMPZ actually uses a lot of geography and even botany to make guesses, and regionguessing countries by vegetation soil type etc is pure geography, more so than moving.
To be fair Oscar doesn't really allow his opponents to play moving, because he is clearly playing 4s no moving instead lol
why does fau have a giant alberta bollard in his room
1:40 i have never skipped one of your sponsorships
that’s crazy
@@EthanSSBW pfp ❤
@@knowledgegeoguessr9060 W indeed thanks
Strongly agree with you that 3 points for 2 wins makes no sense and they need to play the dead rubbers. I can imagine players who are desperate to win the no move game because they are much weaker at NMPZ and very likely to lose it. So if they win a close no move they get 3 points when they almost certainly would have gotten 1 point if they had lost it.
I first played Geoguessr after watching a smaller youtuber who used to stream himself editing videos, sometimes he'd play gg when taking breaks. Then a few years later, I saw Pewdiepie playing it and got back into it, after it had become pay-to-play. Just paid for one month and was pretty tired of it after that.
Then I came across Geowizard's videos, I think it was only about 2 and a half years ago. That is what got me into it bigtime. Got hooked on duels in particular and looked for tips videos, finding this channel.
I get them leaving out GeoWizard I don't think his impact has been direct enough to bring him up in a conversation about esports directly. When doing the history of geoguessr sure he would be a big part but as far as the sports Go I mean he's just an inspiration for people that play. The one I found an excusable is that they didn't really talk about rainbolt enough, he kind of is the reason that esports has any legs he's kind of the whole thing. Even when they talked about the casters they just mentioned literally all the casters that are the worst and don't really add anything to the broadcast just because they have name recognition. I mean they're fine but if they weren't there I wouldn't miss them. But really rainbolt with his tournaments and lending his skills to the casting desk which he is an amazing Castor and the only reason that I even find the world cup worth watching.
Bruh, rainbolt himself started playing because of GeoWizard. I see what you are trying to say about the e-sport part, but without the contribution of GeoWizard there is no chance the game even gains enough popularity to become an e-sport
I love the Tio After Thanksgiving Dinner energy with the heavy breathing. Subscribed. ❤
GeoWizard 🐐 his contributions to the game's popularity and love are huge par none. His skills when there was not much meta or other clue knowledge known was excellent. Drove thousands of people to fall in love with the game.
It's actually really surprising it took this long. Just this year I was beginning to think Geoguessr was on a downturn and that it had peaked in 2022-early 2023 (with the wave of viral Rainbolt clips). Now I'm excited to see where this goes!
TSM Blinky has a nice ring to it, I hope orgs start to take notice of geoguessr
Hearing that you had a CS phase is so interesting because I feel like there’s such a big overlap between it and Geoguessr for some reason.
Those are the two games I play the most. It would be interesting to see data around this.
@@NoRcAl_NaCl Make me two as sample
Big overlap between rocket league and geo
Kinda crazy that moving is so highly valued in the World League when it was so undervalued when it came down to qualifying for it 🤨
good point
Great vid! Agree 100% props to Geowizard.
2:48 I knew I recognized that location!
I don't think the esports is big enough yet to split up into gamemodes but I like the idea of picking your gamemodes before the game like the way you would choose your maps in cs for example to battle disadvantages nmpz-players might be having at the moment
With other games like shooters or racing simulators I never got any good because I am lacking the dexterity and motor skills and I am not good at strategizing. Now I am too old anyway and could never be as quick on the trigger as a 17 year old. But in Geoguessr you don't need any of that, but you "just" need to know stuff. It is almost like a quiz with a bit of a more advanced user interface. And I find it cool to be able to tell the Spanish road signs from the German ones, so I am happy to learn that stuff. That is why Geoguessr is the first game that kept me engaged for years now.
I started watching through geowizard, I think with his find a random subscriber from a list sent in. Then got into GeoGuessr from there. Can’t believe he wasn’t even mentioned
The problem with the ordering of the rounds in the World League hadn't occurred to me before watching this - playing all three games would definitely be better to even up the three formats.
I was also amused when they said how the game could appeal to parents, as I'm a parent who started playing when my son suggested we try watching the world cup qualifiers earlier this year 🙂 I don't play any other computer games and it's really lovely having a game that we can play together.
I started playing bc of rainbolt but had known about the game for years before rainbolt through geowizard he’s so important to the game’s success
Would never come to know about geowizard if you didn't give appreciations to him so often.. you make an ideal successor
I don't expect them to drop moving as their main play style for a while. I think moving is the way a lot of casual people play the game and if someone watches a stream and wants to give it a go then moving probably makes the game look more accessible.
Picking Gamemodes need to be implemented ASAP
Agree that the NMPZ could be made more prevalent and world league point system should be reviewed... BUT (in all friendship) I disagree that modes should be split at bigger competition level. Being world champion should be rewarding the most complete player who wins. This should be more balanced I agree, but in Grand Slam tennis tournaments, there isn't one tournament for net players and another for baseline players. At most some surfaces that fit more one style or the other.
I have made comment there for GeoWizzard. Also I like his GeoGeusser style going for 5k. This 5k mode should be as competitive
I've been playing with my girlfriend for a bit more than a month now and for me the biggest hurdle to "understanding" the game is how the scoring works. IMO the information on scoring, and especially how duels work, is quite lacking. I've now figured out how duel damage works but it's just not obvious for a brand new player and the documentation is poor. Also, it's easy for a new player to get "stuck" in the single player "Campaign" mode. I probably would not have realized there was anything other than Campaign if it weren't for you and rainbolt's videos.
I dream of being the most popular geoguessr player so I can sabotage players by pedalling fake metas. (This is a German rock.)
🔥
It would be cool for the nmpz players to protest somehow during the live games, a bit like RC was planning to do for the round limit but without miscomunication 😂
Something drastic to show the developpers and the audience that this format is not ok, like both playing nmpz during moving or something like that
you should really upload reaction videos like this on your main channel, they tend to do very well on youtube. I understand they probably seem like lower effort content, but for some reason reaction videos do pretty well.
literally why isn't there a vote on what modes are to be played?
yeah
Geoguessr noob here: why is there such a big difference between moving, no moving, and NMPZ? I would think they would be very similar.
Moving is heavily centered around being able to work with textual information you see on signs etc. In NMPZ you rarely have any significant amount of such information available but rather you have to rely on the landscape, vegetation and "vibes" of the location. So NMPZ tends to be much more intuitive whereas moving takes a lot of deliberate study and memorization like learning the names of obscure towns and learning to read all the different writing systems out there and so on. No move is somewhere in between. Also, being able to effectively navigate in moving to find the information you need is a separate skill.
Jeeze that was a long ass ad
Regarding the format, I guess they are still figuring things out and I hope they will tweak it over the coming years. As the company behind the game they have to stand their ground a bit and can't just change things because some players think this is better and other players think that is better. And there are always more stakes involved, like having to make a profit, pleasing sponsors, making the game approachable to new people, keeping the viewers engaged, and so on. For me who has been here since the first Rainbold tournaments (was that 2 years ago? Or longer?) the official streams are waaaaaayyy too slow, and I always start watching 2 hours late in order to skip all the pauses and most of the "yapping" between rounds. It is just too much filler and too slow of a pace. When the Rainbolt tournaments had time limits per round and some teams weren't able to spend literally 15 minutes on a round, there was game after game after game, but on the World League you are watching 4 games in 4 hours, or something like that.
Of course Rainbolt is good
But people overestimate and overrate him by a lot because of the fast-paced clips with music and loud keyboard smashes
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