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Latrell has been protected all his career. Anyone who called out his behaviour was called racist. Now these people that have protected him, are starting to get sick of the fact that the guy who’s faced no repercussions hasn’t learned his lesson.
even other brown and black fellas are afraid to call him out because hilariously they will be called racist, and in fact some have, its gotten ridiculous and it doesn't help anyone, indigenous people included.
Latrell isn't any good for the reputation of the NRL. People with his mental state are in Solitary confinement.
You go for raiders or Samoa you salty latrell cooked yall. When latrell is back he taking south’s to the playoffs like he did in 22
The irony of saying Latrell is protected 😂😂 let me guess…replace him with a park footy player? 😂😂
agree 100 percent on top of that hes the laziest in nrl probably the rest of FBs are WAY better
3 weeks for a deliberate elbow should be half season. Protected species Latrell is
Steady on, it’s not like he’s like Les Boyd ffs
@@ronanrogers4127 if memory serves Les got a full season on the pine
@@ronanrogers4127 its actually worse , he tried to actually make Harris. Rat yell should go for 3 months
IT SHOULD BE 4 WEEKS OR 5 WEEKS .
I WILL THINK IF THEY LOSE AGAINST. SHARKS , STORM , AND PANTHERS WHAT WILL HAPPEN ??
Latrell has been the same ever since he played in the lower grades. He used to constantly bully the smaller guys, use his forearms, knees, etc and it’s all on the internet to watch.
Robbo was starting to discipline him at the roosters hence the massive fallout. Wayne had him under control with his fitness and a good life/footy balance but JD has just let him do whatever he wants and their downfalls shows it.
He also persuaded JD to get his best mate Jack Wighton there when they should have went to the market to find a few front rowers. Jacks a world class player but he needs the #6 jersey. They literally have no speed on the edges. Trell should have been shifted to the centres and kept Blake Taaffe to play fullback.
Tbh i’d love to see the Broncos sign Ilias for the 2026 season post Reynolds era, he’s got a lot of potential under a good coach and supportive team. They’ve blamed him for everything over the past 6 months when in fact it’s Cody and Trell not pulling their weight with a sub par forward pack giving him nothing to work with.
This! None of this new. He has been like this from the beginning of his career. The difference is that he was more effective as a football player back then so the media gave it all a pass.
@@zaneplatt3533spot on mate, he was playing amazing footy at the roosters but robbo was starting to clamp down on him so it didn’t become a long term issue. Arguably Latrell also cost them the 2021 premiership with his suspension, it was a such a tight game and he was in career best form, fit and motivated under Wayne back then.
Only 64 games in four seasons for Souths,a month off already this year. Regathers from opposition kicks and throws thirty metre passes in front of the goal mouth to a much smaller,and less talented teammate. Lazy in defence,then pretends he’s upset when scored against. If he worked for me,he’d be shown the door. See ya Trell.
@@apopisso6302 if you re watch the highlights from their game with the broncos, he was constantly caught out of position. Even when the broncos did 5th tackle kicks where he was out of the defensive line, he wouldn’t show any desperation to get to the ball and then the hospital passes because he’s too tired to take hit up’s is the icing on the cake.
Very well said
I still can’t believe he stayed on the field after that elbow. Had the NRL said he should have been sent? What a disgraceful look for the game.
Plus the ref was about 3 metres away looking straight at it and didn't react to it. That says to me that those running the NRL have instructed yhe officials to go easy on him!
If a warriors player did that, straight red card.
@@PowerOfFemit’s actually a joke
'When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.' Thomas Sowell
Thomas is an extremely intelligent man.
Well quoted, he is such a brilliant mind.
Did not expect Sowell quote here.
When has he ever been given preferential treatment I would like to understand you apartide mind set
@@user-wv8co7bk2g So I don't have a right to "voice" my opinion?
Latrell is out of control. Especially last 2 years. Dude can't control his emotions and is dangerous. He's starting to hurt opponents with the intent to injure them. We've all seen it on different media platforms.
He needs a break from the game. Right now I don't want him on a NSW team
Latrell isn't any good for the reputation of the NRL. People with his mental state are in Solitary confinement.
completely agree, spot on. if he’s struggling to manage his emotions properly and maintain professionalism then he should take a break for his own sake or fix his attitude both mentally and physically.
nobody wants him on the NSW team..he's not a professional & never has been despite playing origin & in national team.
How’s going to Redfern working out for you Jacky boy🤔🤣. You’re not missed here in Canberra.
😂
😂😂😂 grass aint always greener .. 🆙️🆙️🥛🥛💚💚
Lol harsh.. But kinda true.. Strange at 6 looks good for a fraction of the salary cap Wighton was gonna take up..
Well said.
The streets of Canberra are now safer
Latrell Mitchell is a disaster for South Sydney. His attitude is terrible. He's lazy, overweight and a liability.
I can actually see him having a year out up to the super league in the future if all this carries on maybe thats what he needs .
Gus dropping straight facts 🎤 ❗️
Lattrel got off lightly because Shaun Johnson had the audacity to run into his elbow I am surprised Johnson didn't go to the bin
🤔🧐hhhmm, lattrel is just playing stupid, and it costs his team to win .and johnnson scoring trys being smart
Sam was right no one player or players that doesn’t give 100% each game and training session needs to be disciplined and dropped to NSW cup for team morale and discipline this has been happening since last year Coaches need to have control of their players with some respect like Bellamy and Bennett do or the players will walk all over you and you lose the Coaching job they don’t lose their job playing until the next coach rips into them and puts them on notice
I'm still amazed nothing was done when he clocked Addo Carr last week. Going in to a tackle with knees and hips on a bloke diving for the line head first, is not attempting to make a tackle. It's totally reckless.
it wasnt that bad
@@harveyking5038 wasn't bad ? He knocked him out cold !
I hate comments like "I'm not in a position to bag a footballer because I never played the game" you don't have to play to know that players like Latrell are a huge liability. If you watch it you can see it. Stop defending this clown. It's so obvious that he's the main problem.
Exactly. You don’t have to have played to recognise good play from bad play. A physical ability to play isn’t the same as a mental one. Terry lam, Wally Lewis and Allan langer are some of the greatest players ever, they can’t coach because the mental side isn’t there. Trent Robinson and Craig Bellamy were absolutely trash players, they’re excellent coaches. If the defining characteristics of a valid opinion is that you have to have played, than by default Cameron smith is the only man with a correct opinion because no one played more than him.
Lol that doesn't stop them bagging footballers they do not like, but its not PR to throw any accountability Grubtrells way because Grubtrell is a protected species of grub. Where was this talk when they were Bagging Benji Marshall when the guy hadn't even coached a game yet?
Wrong again. 30 man squad and it's all latrell. He makes millions while you bums go to work 😅
You’re definitely not in a position to bag a footballer with this ridiculous opinion. This just proves you only watch Latrell and not the game. The Rabbitohs have no halfback to steer the ship. They went to 💩 when let Reynolds go
Sorry but you do need to play to have a better understanding - if you have never played, especially at a high level, best stick to just buying tickets and not giving any unwanted advice
Read between the lines, Gus is saying it would be better for everybody if latrell just quits and leaves the game. I strongly agree
Absolutely and he’ll be begging to come back by next season once he realises the harsh realities of the real world for people without his talent to do a job that 90% of NSW and QLD kids would give their right arm for an opportunity at.
Nah, he's one of the better players in rugby league. He'll be back
@@hyubreHis been one of if not THE worst fullback in the comp this season. He contributes absolutely nothing to his team, his a liability at this point.
Of course you strongly agree! I don’t overly like Latrell, but Australia’s tall poppy syndrome is definitely showing here
@@optimalmen no tall poppy here mate, just a team running dead last with the highest paid player not showing up week after week. No success to be envious of here sorry champion.
Having Latrell, Walker and Wighton all together has been a disaster for Souths. If they are any hope of saving their season, they need to move Latrell into the centres, and wighton to the bench.
You wouldn't let those blokes sit next to each other in school. 3 class clowns.
why Wighton to the bench? Wighton at least has been giving effort. Move him to 6 or keep at center, Drop Latrell to reserve grade for a couple weeks.
Muffintop Mitchell selects himself at fullback.
Who’s gonna play fullback and halfback?
Latrine, Kickin' Cody from Casino and Jack Bitin'
Fact is Latrell is the typical bully. Always has an excuse for every grubby thing he has ever done, never looks internally at his own actions.
He makes millions while you go to work still or rely on pension.
@@Blade223s What's that got to do with anything you absolutely flop?
@@Blade223s=🤡
@@Blade223s at least you didn't say he earns millions, just makes them..
@@joie32695 All good for Andrew John's tho aye the junkie? No one complains about him joking about drugs and partying every weekend
The Ben Simmons of the NRL
Latrell is protected
Finally some truths are hitting home for people so they can see what his like now and his being exposed
8 games are played per week. But we expect 16 winning coaches every week
Too true Dave.
5 wins in 20 games ? Big problem !
Hence being a COMPETITION.
The problem is the media expects the two big Sydney teams to be be success all of the time, to represent the inner Sydney fan base. It's media driven. They will always make storylines
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371I don’t think they need to make up a story this time.
There’s obviously real problems and Lattrel and other senior players need to be held accountable.
He likes the easy money but has a chip on his shoulder has a history of dirty play a mile long
Latrell is a grub end of story. Always has been always will be.
Fair enough, but who are you listening to? Paul gallen, massive grub. How about bulldogs Reynolds, much bigger grub. To stamp Mitchell as a grub, well, he's got a long way to go yet.
@@happytoday333 so true bro. Don't even know how this grubs like Gallen and Ennis got a job there 😂😂😂
@@happytoday333 Latrell isn't any good for the reputation of the NRL. People with his mental state are in Solitary confinement.
@@rogerjamespaul5528 What the… When did they let you out?
@@happytoday333 So sad, did I hurt your feelings.
Latrell Mitchell needs to pick up his game. Cody Walker and Damien Cook need to do the same. Everyone else needs to as well. Can't just go after the coach all the time. I totally agree with what gus had to say about the drama with south Sydney Rabbitohs.
Dunno why the media is still infatuated with this cheap shot merchant. Stop talking about him and he'll disappear like a fart in the wind, he's done in rugby league.
cause he's a top player mate
@@harveyking5038 since when? 😂
@@Whistler112 mate i play soccer and i watch footy just to see players like him play. most players are very boring. he should calm himself down. do meditation etc but the skillset he has can win a game all by himself.
@@harveyking5038 You watch soccer and only watch league to watch one player play, yet you think you are qualified to tell other league fans, many of whom may have played and watched the sport their entire lives what a top player is?
@@MusMasi I'm a sportsman, athlete, I've played league. I know you need skills in all sports. He's an excellent player, I like other players too. Mate do you play anything? Sounds like you're one of those spectators
Souths to have 10 players who look to be over weight for rugby league players when compared to Penrith.
I play soccer but i watch souths each week just to see Latrell play. There's not many entertaining players like him around. He should try daily morning meditation to calm himself down but he's a very skillful player.
god your life must be absolute utter garbage if you tune in to watch Latrell and find him entertaining. Seek professional help.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 NRL have pulled the wool over your eyes with their media BS about the Super Star, You want to see Top Shelf Full Back play? Watch the Panthers. Watch the Knights, Watch the Broncos, not Souths.
Hes a thug and your a goose
Will Kennedy for Cronulla is an indigenous player, he gets no protection and is a star player. Why Lattrell is a protected species is what I don't understand.
Soccer: a game of theatrics to gain an advantage. And to think it's a contact sport... haha
When you compare Latrell to his contempories, it just looks so bad. Ponga, Turbo, and Teddy are dally m winners. Teddy, Pap, and Edwards have all won premierships. What has Latrell actually done since being a fullback? Watched his team get to a GF without him
But the NRL will reward him with an Origin jersey. Boys looking after the boys
Who played fullback for souths when they were in the gf in 2021. Thats a good example of why latrell is not a fullback
@@luikilarengbogombari693Blake Taafe was fullback.
@@troystaunton254 exactly so why did souths let Reynolds and Taafe go???
@@luikilarengbogombari693 cause wanted more then 1 year contract right and taffta I have known idea
It must be hard being a coach aye.... I get that things happen behind the scenes but they ain't out there dropping the ball, passing the ball forward, doing spear tackles, hip drops elbowing players costing the team field position which in turn makes your job harder to score points.
they got to stop calling him a well above talent when 90% of the time he is watching teams score against him and his defense leaves alot to be desired also
Yeah
Latrell the Football Player.
Latrell the Brick Layer.
Latrell the Truck Driver.
Latrell the Farmer.
Latrell needs to step up.
Gus is correct.
Gus hit the nail on the head this time ! Latrell has looked bored with the game for 3 years.
I feel for the coach, the players have so much power and can just up and choose to play without enthusiasm or effort and it costs the coach his job.... in my opinion Cam Murray is the only player in that team that gives 100% week in week out.
For someone who has played the race card all his life. What goes around comes around.
The Latrell cheer squad keeps singing his praises. He is actually not a consistent match winner and never has been. He is vastly over-rated. You cannot compare his performances under pressure to someone like a Cleary or a Tedesco or an Edwards etc. Players like Mitchell do not understand that they are employees - they think they are business owners. Well, if you have the courage of your convictions leave NRL, convince people to fund a new system of football in which you can elbow people in face and get paid for it.
The panel spend most of the time talking about all the things he doesn't do and his attitude and his preferential treatment in not being charge and suspended for the lift tackle.... and then go on to say what a champion he is and what an excellent player etc. Well as a Souths fans for decades his attitude is offensive. he let down his team and the South fans with his lack of effort and stinking attitude. Souths fans that I sit with and family & friends want him gone. His presence is poison to our team imho.
Because they are desperate to protect 'one of der boyz'. No matter how bad he plays he will be rewarded with an Origin jersey
Who Cares I Stopped Supporting Rabbits When Big Sam Left
You stopped supporting your team when 1 player left, yeah fair to say you were a fair-weather supporter as a true rusted on supporter would never stop following the their club because 1 player leaves 🤦♂️
@@mreel3488 Wow Don't U Know How To Read U 🤡 🤦🏿♂️
As long as the preferential treatment continues,the problem will only grow.
If I was the coach I would drop Latrell to Reserves until he proves to the coach & his team that he deserves to be in the team, The amount of brain snaps he constantly been doing is letting his team down with his selfish act of behaviour
The problem is, if you did that you wouldn't be coach for long.
Nd what if the player replacing Latrell has a blinder and wins matches? Suddenly, Supercoach. The media will never be happy
Muffintop would spit the dummy if he got dropped.
@@Unbearable.Unbearable
Hahaha you’re absolutely correct Mr Muffin top would throw a tantrum
But Latrell has to learn
He’s always been given the silver platter
Like he’s an endangered species
Where he’s absolutely not
He's not in love with the game, he wouldn't be playing if wasn't for the coin. Just setting himself up for life, good luck to him but it shows
Dylan Edwards & Clint Gutherson are 5 times the Player's Latrell Mitchell is.
If the players do not have the coaches back, that will show on field with their performances , the coach can only do so much off the field, it is up to the players to implement that on the field, maybe move some players on as the air around the situation is becoming stagnant
I see Latrell criticism. I click
Latrell should do a refresher course in the rudiments of NRL. Seems in one game alone he broke as many rules as he could. Hope the kids don’t watch and learn from his example!
Latrell isn't any good for the reputation of the NRL. People with his mental state are in Solitary confinement.
Latrell may have talent, but that is not going to show through with the chip he has on his shoulder. He is lazy, not committed, not a team player and a grub. He is protected species ?
You lost me at talent...
Once a grub, always a grub
Latrell is not a fullback, that’s why he is such an accident prone wrecking ball. An oversized fullback rushing around is bound to make constant mistakes. Back to centre, or even better to the forwards.
Latrell Mitchell is a gift to the rugby league media/industrial complex. They need to generate content. I watch 360 and the last two days 60% is about souths, 30 parra and the other 10 yelling over each other.
Latrell is a protected sources... Let that sink in.
Gus your spot on like always!!
Latrell also kneed Tohu Harris in the jaw as he went down. Should be at least 8 weeks on the sideline.
When the going gets tough latrell gets going
Been a star from young age. Bit of a brat because of that. Awesome talent. Sometimes dont realise ya love something till its gone for awhile. Hope he sorts it. Thanks
Woe...while Gus is only human, his wisdom/ overview of our game is oracle like.
And this statement is a call out....shouted actually.
Once again Gus is a 100 % correct
OMG, where do we start with the inconsistencies in refs calls and interpretations in the so called 'greatest league competition in the world'. Forward passes, high shots, obstructions, bunker calls that are all open for different interpretation and inconsistent calls which ultimately effect the outcome of games. The NRL need to fix this mess.
Boy that escalated quickly.
Mitchell just wants the money and no the work.
4:24 Gus is correct, Footy is a game made up of more than 1 player, working togather as a Team produces results. The ultimate goal is to win, and you win as a unit.
I could be wrong 🤷♂️ I don’t think dropping Lachlan was searching for answers. I think it was more drop Lachlan so he can play reserve grade for however long get some confidence back and then bring him back up. I don’t think it was seen as potentially a permanent thing. Obviously now that’s shocking luck
WTF Illias is garbage please show me 1 game just 1 game hes taken over in 3yrs of 1st grade???
Gus forever the Nostradamus. I'm surprised he didn't pick this poor run of form early in 1983. He is just too good 🤣
maybe Latrell struggles to cope with pressure from fans' media expectations he's a natural instinctive player who probably relies on that and does not work hard on the nuts and bolts of the game
Latrell isn't any good for the reputation of the NRL. People with his mental state are in Solitary confinement.
Cop out of an excuse. Professional have access to sports psychologists, rehab, and all other facilities. If he wants the big money and the privilege of playing in the NRL then he needs to take responsibility. The bloke is en entitled flog
But when the guy was kicking goals from the sideline as if they were in front of the sticks, he revved the crowd up and played it up when they booed him. But now it’s all too much???
Latrell holding the team to ransom! He should be holding the club. He has to go!
Latrel doesn't put footy a top priority. Coz he's IG bio says " Full time Farmer, Part time Rugby Player " 👀🙄
So you can just see by the way he's playing.
Russell Crowe will have to come in, The Gladiator,
Years ago he acually turned up too training and told the coach to have the session off and took the boys through their paces. 😅.
True story it was when Inglis and burgess were still playing. 😂
I’m a Latrell fan and I can say that his attitude and ego is just not one what so ever and that even I’m starting to grow weary of it, he needs to have a real reality check, as far as “no love for the game” I think that’s a bit too far, I think he has love for it but no love for his teammates and club, he’s been gifted opportunity after opportunity and has shown very little gratitude, like Gus said last week or the week before he demands alot of respect but doesn’t give any in return. If he keeps this up he’ll be gone quicker than you think
This is what happens where they’re protected their whole life… regardless of their status …
Like a lot of people who played A grade rugby league, there were plenty of people I played with who had the talent to play first grade. Very, very few did. It all come down to commitment and sacrifice to be the fittest and be willing to go the extra yard. If you didn’t that was fine, you enjoyed playing A grade and hopefully ended your time with a premiership. Many didn’t, but kept on playing nonetheless. Latrell Mitchell to me, is a talented A grader now, if he still loves playing the game, go back to playing park football cause he is no longer a first grade footballer. Sad but true.
I do somewhat agree Gus BUT when you're leading the comp half way through and things start to go bad it's the coaches job to be on top of it and stop the rot immediately but he didn't do that and in fact double downed on it publicly concerning the behaviour and preferential treatment of "certain" players as Sam so rightly pointed out. And it's not like that's the only glaring issue- dropping Illias, KK moved to the other side then there's the madness of letting Taffie go after never giving him a shot at 7 when he played that position in the juniors..
If you have a problem remove the cause and it isn't the coach.
South's have won 5 games since round 11... there has to be a change in the coaching
What more can JD do? Is he the one out there missing tackles and poor defensive skills? He clearly wants to drop certain players but is most likely under the pump to keep flogs like LM on the field no matter the performance standards
Discipline is the quality of being able to behave and work in a controlled way which involves obeying particular rules or standards every nrl player needs discipline for his team to succeed, latrell has never been given this even under wayne bennett u can have respect but u need to reciprocate respect to urself and those around u, latrell's actions shows he has no respect for his team or for rugby league, playing nrl is just a way for him to financially support what he wants to do, how may people in the world do that plenty, working at jobs they dislike just so can live their lives, latrell looks like he never wanted to be the star of the show, the trouble is the public and the media want him to be the star of the show
“… all those nights kicking goals at the local park…” - Gus Gould
Wayne Bennett & Sam burgees a great coaching combination
To many players that believe they run the club and not enough reminding them yes you are and right now everything stinks. So humble up and play footy again. Lateral needs to be sent home. He clearly thinks he is the be all end all, and like many before him learning your nothing without your team and supporters respect! You’ve lost all of it. Liability!
Ever since August 12th 2023, South Sydney have only won 1 game....
Legend in his own lunchbox.not a team player.its a team sport.start boximg.
The south sydney 'latrell Mitchell's' need to think about whats best for the team. LM isnt a fullback, never has been.
You can have all the natural talent in the world, but if you can't care or focus on what your doing then there is simply no point
I think Gus is absolutely correct in everything he said. I don't often agree with Gus but he's right on this one. As he said, if that was Victor Radley who elbowed SJ, he'd be out for 3 months and Latrell is as big a grub as anyone is League. He is protected and anyone who criticises him is labelled racist, total horseshit.
Rugby league pays his bills. He’ll need to work it out. A lot of pressure on him. But a lot of it he is bringing on himself. Makes you wonder who’s giving him advice or is this just who he is. For me, I don’t think he’s equipped to deal with what he’s going through.
Why don’t the warriors get these calls game day? It was pretty clear he tried to elbow Johnson in the face out of frustration and not even a yellow?
I disagree about Wayne not going to Rabbitohs. His time is up this season with the Phins, and he wants to keep coaching.
Cleary got 5 weeks for a lifting tackle.
Only my opinion but I think Trell threw the elbow intentionally, hoping to get suspended so he can’t be held responsible for the team losing as he’s not playing.
There’s no way he can play Origin.
Who is better than him in centre? Him and Turbo and the best centres in the league hands down. don't let the rooster bias cloud your judgement. if Lattrel does play Origin because of South Performance then there's not reason Cam Murray and Cook should be picked.
He heard the cows calling him. Get back on the tractor Trell,that’s where you’re happiest. Three game ban gives him a month off to repair stuff around the farm. Intentional.
@@mikediao15crighton is solid defensively, turns up for his mates, same as whighton whenever he played centre for NSW. Solid, defends well and takes those tough carries, doesn’t hide at dummy half
@@joewrigley399 hahahah defense don’t win you origin mate. Latrell is a great defender. There’s clear issue in that south team where he’s the guy goes through and Latrell is left on 2 on one situation. Kid can’t even tackle with media calling for his head. Thins that Teddy get away with, Latrell can’t.
@@mikediao15
Stephen Crichton is better than Latrell, I wouldn’t pick Cook either. Murray is definitely in.
Who would want to play the watered down version of rugby league they’re made to play these days
He needs to go walkabout
Gus is so cool! Almost like me.
Latrell does not need help, he has had plenty , he needs to deal with the consequences of his actions, lots of us have had to, at about 18 / 20 years old, screw up once ok, screw up time & time again? You’re on ya own, start helping yourself, everyone around has nothing else to give. Grow up Latrell, got the world at your feet, start respecting where you sit in the world of responsibility.
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I agree with Gus. For years I've said 'it depends which Latrell turns up'. At his best I love to see him play, but at his worse....... And at the moment I want to see him gone from the game completely.
And I think his team mates think the same. I think Latrell is the root cause of the Bunny's low morale, and its the low morale that is bringing low results. They are a team of champions but they are not playing as a champion team.
This is the problem! Just last week Gus was ripping Latrell a new one and now it's all coddling and care....it happens all the time no wonder Latrell thinks he's untouchable
The problem isn’t Latrell the problem is people had a vision for Latrell to be the next GI
Guss is spitting facts
Yep, you wont fix it with an interim coach but it also wont get any better with jd still there
There's way too much focus on how bad the bunnies are playing and not enough on how good their opposition is
thank you Gus for saying out loud what everybody rightly thinks. Lazy, spoiled and a terrible attitude/ego.
Grub
LM is a protected species for all the obvious and colourful reasons, inside and outside the game. He's got a major forrest on his shoulder.
Go walkabout ! Oh you already do that during the game.
Roosters saw this many years ago
It all comes down to the coach,,he makes the final call on who plays,,its obvious the players don’t respect him because they don’t want to play for him n there’s no passion n no fight to the end in them,,if u don’t respect ur coach u won’t listen to him or spill blood for him,,