The Only Game They EVER Played || Mikhail Botvinnik vs Bobby Fischer
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Mikhail Botvinnik vs Robert James Fischer
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Varna ol (Men) fin-A (1962), Varna BUL, rd 10, Oct-07
Gruenfeld Defense: Russian. Smyslov Variation (D98)
1. c4 g6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 d5 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. Qb3 dc4 6. Qc4 O-O 7. e4 Bg4 8. Be3 Nfd7 9. Be2 Nc6 10. Rd1 Nb6 11. Qc5 Qd6 12. h3 Bf3 13. gf3 Rfd8 14. d5 Ne5 15. Nb5 Qf6 16. f4 Ned7 17. e5 Qf4 18. Bf4 Nc5 19. Nc7 Rac8 20. d6 ed6 21. ed6 Bb2 22. O-O Nbd7 23. Rd5 b6 24. Bf3 Ne6 25. Ne6 fe6 26. Rd3 Nc5 27. Re3 e5 28. Be5 Be5 29. Re5 Rd6 30. Re7 Rd7 31. Rd7 Nd7 32. Bg4 Rc7 33. Re1 Kf7 34. Kg2 Nc5 35. Re3 Re7 36. Rf3 Kg7 37. Rc3 Re4 38. Bd1 Rd4 39. Bc2 Kf6 40. Kf3 Kg5 41. Kg3 Ne4 42. Be4 Re4 43. Ra3 Re7 44. Rf3 Rc7 45. a4 Rc5 46. Rf7 Ra5 47. Rh7 Ra4 48. h4 Kf5 49. Rf7 Ke5 50. Rg7 Ra1 51. Kf3 b5 52. h5 Ra3 53. Kg2 gh5 54. Rg5 Kd6 55. Rb5 h4 56. f4 Kc6 57. Rb8 h3 58. Kh2 a5 59. f5 Kc7 60. Rb5 Kd6 61. f6 Ke6 62. Rb6 Kf7 63. Ra6 Kg6 64. Rc6 a4 65. Ra6 Kf7 66. Rc6 Rd3 67. Ra6 a3 68. Kg1
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"Botvinnik had to start playing chess" So much said in just one sentence
It's unbelievable the "database" of games and variations that pro chess players have. This sentence got me thinking a lot as well.
Well, but not everyone has this “database” so it’s not like you can’t win or lose; which is what makes playing chess fun IMO. At this level you basically are calculating a win and I think that takes away the thrill of playing the game. (Insert suffering from success meme)
@@newdecade5056 mines
Other chess players just depends on variations. 😏
That's why they called him Mikhail "the bottle" Botvinnik
Actually Effim Geller was the genius behind the endgame Botvinnik played for a very simple reason that Botvinnik is notoriously known for his strict health system and he refused to spend the hours he should be sleeping in on analyzing games so he gave it to Geller who came the next morning with the drawing line.
Many years later Botvinnik said that he gave this position to 13 year-old Garry Kasparov to analyze and he found another drawing line other than the one that was played.
So many great stories about that game that even a 20-minute video wasn't enough to cover them all..
But great work nonetheless Antonio.. as usual
mohammed ayman wow you really have vast knowledge
Not the first time they cheated.....and for a draw.....how weak.
@@morfi3395 how is it cheating?
How would you call it?.....fair one to one sportmanship?...
If he would be different if analyze by himself the whole night...
But he was indeed peeing his pants to loose from a teenager.
Euwe had similar fears against a 14 year old Bobby but played straight at least and won
@@morfi3395 No it's bad sportsmanship just not cheating he isn't breaking any rules
"I do not have access to this information" what a nice phrase to hear in this day and age
What do you mean?
@@sashimi879 more often than not people giving information but the truth is they only have partial knowledge about that information, but they think they know better so they give that piece of information with their opinion to complete it and present it as information.
@@avocedo975 Good insight. Thank you for replying.
@@sashimi879 well because everyone has access to almost all information in this day and age with the interwebs -- that phrase takes us back to a time when things were much simpler and there was mystique in the air
that is the most epic photo I've seen in my life
People in the photo, from left to right:
Man-with-the-mustache-1
Man-with-the-mustache-2
Man-with-the-mustache-3..
lol
You forgot man with the mustache, how rude
I was thinking the same thing. That's one serious mustache fest.
''Fisher very unsatisfied getting up from the table and you can see botvinik with a smile he was able to draw a game against bobby fisher with the white pieces''. 😂 lol
And only after a night of analyzing with a team of grandmasters and a call to russian endgame specialist.
How weak.
@Keith Alfred Anthony Donovan If you are an idiot please dont announce it to the entire UA-cam chess world. Botvinnik was actually a very strong grandmaster in his time and held the world title for almost 15 years. He even developed his own system of chess and had several books published all while also working as an electrical engineer and scientist.
It's just that in this era of chess, Fischer was blooming like crazy and was too good for most of the top Russian grandmasters.
@Keith Alfred Anthony Donovan anybody can say anything...that doesnt make it true. But facts are facts. Fact is is that botvinnik in his days was a very formidable grandmaster for a long time.
@Keith Alfred Anthony Donovan I know that nobody remains champion for 15 years and gets books published by always paying their opponents to throw games. Yes, it was rumored he had done so but that is a rumor. I do believe that the there was huddling between all the Russian GMs that time against Fischer. Becuase there was so much shock that how could this young American kid do this to all their top player. But that doesn't mean that Botvinnik was a fake champion....I would not go that far. He earned it in his time...just like everyone else did.
he was a great and very important player
Botvinnik was not to be underestimated. He was "old school" trained by Russians who taught him absolute concentration under all adverse circumstances and would role play to teach him descipline and stamina. Fisher was young though talented but would underestimate his adversaries. This was a life learning experience for the young Fischer. I enjoyed the replay.
tal adjourned his own game at the same time as this one, but he spent all night analyzing Botvinnik's game instead of his own, along with the rest of the whole country.
Source?
I think Fischer played an outstanding game considering that he was not facing Botvinnik alone, he was facing all the strongest soviet grandmasters minds behind Botvirnnik's hands
True. Very true!
to be fair, that is common in chess. Botvinik also had to face Tal and his coach during their match for Champion title.
Not really common because one thing is to train with a team behind you and then play alone, but if a game is posponed, then having a team of analyzers working on the position is a huge advantage. Something that Fischer didn't have
Fischer crushed not just Botvinik but the entire Soviet chess system. soviet communist machine vs. individual genius, genius wins
You guys talk like you were there and witnessed everything. Grow a pair and look at the game for what it is, without all the pointless theorycrafting! You can't prove any of the claims made in these comments.
I like how he says "agadmator's dog" and doesn't even flinch.
Stockfish 11 disagrees with Botvinnik's blind assessment at the adjournment, when he said the game would be "a draw" no matter what Fischer sealed. After 22 hours, and 139 Billion Nodes, in depth 77, Stockfish evaluates Fischer's position at +1.44 if he seals the best move, which is h7-h5. Unfortunately, Fischer sealed an inferior move, because after Rook to c5, Stockfish evaluates the game as drawn by depth 59. After 9 hours, and 62 Billion Nodes, at depth 73, it is still dead drawn.
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I have evaluated various positions further down the line from h7-h5, and black continues to maintain an advantage of about +1.30 to +1.50 with best play from both sides.
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After h7-h5, the best line appears to be something like this:
(45. a2-a4, h7-h5.)
46. h3-h4+, Kg5-h6. -- (Botvinnik would start here after the adjournment.)
47. Rf3-f4, Rc7-c5.
48. f2-f3, Kh6-g7.
49. Kg3-g2, a7-a6. -- (By depth 56, black's a7-a6 is valued around +1.40 to +1.70.)
50. Rf4-d4, Rc5-c6.
51. Rd4-d5, Kg7-f6. -- (By depth 60, various sessions are converging on a valuation around +2.50.)
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Two sessions have diverged at move 52, but by move 54, both are peaking around +3.00 for black. I will report on these lines later. It would seem that slowly, but surely, black may have a winning line somewhere.
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UPDATE --
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I've been running sessions on and off for the past couple of weeks to come up with a strong line for both sides. Continuing off the line above, after 51. Rd4-d5, Kg7-f6, the line continues to improve for black. By move 57, the engines finally sense that a mating sequence is on the horizon, with evaluations jumping up above +45 after hours of analysis. And by move 62, black begins forcing the trades, and pushing the pawn to victory. When the Queen is finally promoted around move 70 or 71, it's a Rook vs. Queen endgame, and the engines are able to reduce the line to about Mate in 30 from that point. After 25 or so moves of maneuvering, the Queen eventually forces the fork, and then checkmates the Black King shortly thereafter. What follows is a solid line for Black to earn the Queen, with some of the evaluation notes.
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52. Kg2-f2, Kf6-e7. -- (-2.70 white, depth 59/95-, 1:34:48, 9.643-Bn) (+2.81 black, depth 56/85, 22:33, 2.33-Bn)
53. Rd5-d4, b6-b5. -- (+5.32 black, depth 66/108, 19:02:01, 117.199-Bn)
54. a4xb5, a6xb5.
55. Rd4-b4, Rc6-b6.
56. Kf2-e3, Ke7-d6.
57. Rb4-f4, b5-b4. -- (+17 by depth 31, new line coming) (+48.06 by depth 36 thru 46) (+47.92 by depth 51)
58. Ke3-d2, b4-b3. -- (+48.41)
59. Kd2-c3, Kd6-e5. -- (+48.06
)
60. Rf4-e4+, Ke5-f5. -- (+48.06/47.77
)
61. Kc3-b2, Rb6-b5. -- (+47.49) (switched to new line, eval down to +39) (new line back up to +47.77)
62. Re4-c4, g6-g5.. -- (+47.77)
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Now that black has finally pushed the g-pawn, the white engines sweat out many alternate lines, but all lines end with the same result: black will get that Queen very soon.
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63. Kb2-c1, b3-b2+. (+M41)
64. Kc1-b1, g5xh4.
65. Rc4xh4, Kf5-g5.
66. Rh4-c4, Rb5-f5.
67. Kb1xb2, Rf5xf3. (+M34)
68. Kb2-c2, h5-h4. (+M33)
69. Kc2-d1, h4-h3.
70. Kd1-e2, h3-h2.
71. Ke2xf3, h2-h1Q+. (+M30)
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Once the Queen is on the board, all of the engines agree over various lines that black sits around +M30 to +M33. There are several ways to do it, and some of the lines are very instructive. Anyone with a strong engine can add this line to the PGN, and see if you can win from there!
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For your convenience, here is an alternate PGN containing all of the moves I listed:
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1. c4 g6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 d5 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. Qb3 dc4 6. Qc4 O-O 7. e4 Bg4 8. Be3 Nfd7 9. Be2 Nc6 10. Rd1 Nb6 11. Qc5 Qd6 12. h3 Bf3 13. gf3 Rfd8 14. d5 Ne5 15. Nb5 Qf6 16. f4 Ned7 17. e5 Qf4 18. Bf4 Nc5 19. Nc7 Rac8 20. d6 ed6 21. ed6 Bb2 22. O-O Nbd7 23. Rd5 b6 24. Bf3 Ne6 25. Ne6 fe6 26. Rd3 Nc5 27. Re3 e5 28. Be5 Be5 29. Re5 Rd6 30. Re7 Rd7 31. Rd7 Nd7 32. Bg4 Rc7 33. Re1 Kf7 34. Kg2 Nc5 35. Re3 Re7 36. Rf3 Kg7 37. Rc3 Re4 38. Bd1 Rd4 39. Bc2 Kf6 40. Kf3 Kg5 41. Kg3 Ne4 42. Be4 Re4 43. Ra3 Re7 44. Rf3 Rc7 45. a4 h5 46. h4+ Kh6 47. Rf4 Rc5 48. f3 Kg7 49. Kg2 a6 50. Rd4 Rc6 51. Rd5 Kf6 52. Kf2 Ke7 53. Rd4 b5 54. axb5 axb5 55. Rb4 Rb6 56. Ke3 Kd6 57. Rf4 b4 58. Kd2 b3 59. Kc3 Ke5 60. Re4+ Kf5 61. Kb2 Rb5 62. Rc4 g5 63. Kc1 b2+ 64. Kb1 gxh4 65. Rxh4 Kg5 66. Rc4 Rf5 67. Kxb2 Rxf3 68. Kc2 h4 69. Kd1 h3 70. Ke2 h2 71. Kxf3 h1Q+
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Edit: I went back and ran a new session for White's response, after Black promotes the Queen. By the time it reaches depth 60, after over 4.7 hours, it says White's best move will be valued at -M29, which is in agreement with the Queen promotion being evaluated at +M30. However, once this session reached depth 61, and continuing to depth 96 after almost 8 hours, the eval has improved to -M28. By depth 110, after 20+ hours, it's just repeating the same line over and over again, clearly confirming that the limit here is -M28. So we can say retroactively that from the given position, black's Queen promotion was to be valued at +M29.
Man, you're crazy, thank you
That must have taken u a while 4 1 chess game lol
@@dannykt3016 yeah, it's fun to spend a little time on these things, like figuring out a puzzle. But now that I'm becoming more familiar with the software, and the engine, it doesn't cost too much personal time. I can make a few notes, plan ahead, and schedule some time to just let the engines run indefinitely, while I'm away at work, or sleeping.
It's always fun to wake up in the morning with anticipation, wondering what new development the engine has discovered overnight!
holy shit dude
@unknowning unknown hahaha, ok. Maybe I don't get money for this work, but as Agadmator would say, I have some compensation. The act of doing the research gave me some experience in using the software, to improve my ability to analyze chess positions, and the act of organizing it into a coherent post allowed me to have a better understanding of the results.
Your negativity, on the other hand, does not leave you with any compensation.
I like how he thanked 'Agadmator's Dog' for the donation and didn't even flinch. I wouldn't started laughing or at least cracked a smile.
I recognized none, for the record ;-)
its okay i literally dont know almost every single photo challenge
XD
same here ;)
I think third from left standing is Mieses, but that's about it ...
same with me
Same the only three chess players I remember are
Magnus Carlson
Caraunna forgot his first name
And Bobby Fischer lol
Holy shit that hello everyone nearly scared me out of my chair. Thats some passionate greeting you give
Nimzowitsch standing, last on the left behind Akiva Rubinstein. Marshall sitting, last on the right- across from David Janowsky
Here is a Capablanca trivia question- Capablanca faced a certain Latvian grandmaster three times, but could never beat him. Who was the Latvian grandmaster?
I marvel at your vast knowledge!
@Jessica Fischer: I thought Rubinstein's first name was Akiba rather than Akiva? Was the Latvian player who frustrated Capablanca Viktors Rosenbergs?
I love how you nonchalantly delivered the news of your dog making a donation to the channel!
I recognized everyone in the picture they are all Chess Players
Do you know they're names
You deserve a tight slap
@@bobbysalazars1645 their names
Cute
@@johntaylor4817 that's a cute name tho john taylor how creative
two uploads from agadmator makes my day twice as good :)
According to Wikipedia, Fischer came up with queen captures pawn over the board, forcing Botvinnik away from his preparation. It sucks that he didn't win though.
If I were him, after drawing my first game against thee, Bobby Fischer....I wouldn't want to play him ever again either lol...just boost about it forever. Just tells you how good Fischer really was, even at 19.
Karlsbad 1907:
Nimzowitsch is one standing at the left and Marshall is the one sitting at the right.
I found the pic with everyone on it but not gonna ruin the fun :P
The summary of this game is both players did not agreed to each others move.. Lol
Geller gives an excellent annotation of his game against Panno and the triple Argentinian Tragedy in general in his book "Application of Chess Theory".
Really man, your"Hello everyone" almost blew my speakers out. 😂 Really love your content keep it up.
Been awhile since a Fischer game was posted.
Good stuff, Antonio.
That photo is the things dreams are made of. Different era. They dont make men or women like that anymore. What's with all the botvinnik hate, though? Hate him or love him, he's the patriarch of soviet chess. And without soviet chess, fischer has no great rival, and kasparov has no teacher, and then carlsen has no teacher. Is he the strongest grandmaster of all time? Not even close. But give the man his props for what he did for the game during such an insane time during world history.
Chris Zablocki WE ARE ANTIPATRIARCHY
+Vivek Rana Adhikari wtf?
+Fritz Vold no clue, dude. not even one...
when you say "they" who are you talking about?
+Billy sampson it's just an old saying. you might hear old timers say something "they don't make them like they used to" when referring to old cars or guns. I just applied it to men and women. world class chess players during the world war eras were a different breed. it's just cool to get into the nostalgia of it all. and that photo is a gem.
Been waiting for this specific game for ever
Bobby Fisher is in our hearts
Raghuveer Singh indeed
I don't keep anti semites in my heart
@@Youknowthatiknow yeah same
Michael Goralski LoL don’t care
Fisher was good but I like Mikhail Tal more. You can never move your eyes from the chess board when he plays.
"agadmator's dog"
I always enjoyed playing against Bobby Fischer. We had some good games.
Really!? When did you play him?
Thank you. I really enjoyed this game.
I love history, this game and the story behind it is a gem
Seems Old Games are beautiful😍
yeshh
Your explanation and studying the possibilities for different scenarios and quotations from players
Are unique
"Too many mistakes" is a very accurate summary of this game by Botvinnik.
Duh......only after a night of analysis with a team of commie grandmasters.....cheaters!
@@morfi3395 Fischer used William Lombardy as his second to win against Spassky. Consider educating yourself before making inflammatory comments.
@@pectenmaximus231 I am well educated.
Don't compare Fischer -Spassky match with this game.
If you would be educated, you would know that Fischer hardly used his second Lombardy because Fischer only trusted his own master analysis.
He fought virtually alone....
Also in this match against Botwinnik, Fischer played alone, not aware that the Russians would use a whole army of GM's
If you want to comment, make sure you know the facts
@@morfi3395 Botvinnnik was world champion and had some reputation and some 16 year old prodigy beating him would have tarnished his reputation
@@pectenmaximus231 Didn't Spassky have a big team of russian grandmasters on his side?
Been watching your videos for months on my TV in bed every morning with coffee and every day after work. I am now addicted to your channel. I stay up late and fall asleep while your videos are still playing. I now rely on hearing your voice for commentaries to help me fall asleep. Don't know if its therapy or a sickness. SUBSCRIBED
JERRYR708 me too .i really get depressed if he didnt upload .and in most of my day i spent alot of time checking his old vedios
Thank you for another opportunity to watch a nice game! Good analysis! Despite all the blah, blah below, two of the greatest Chess Players that ever lived!
Wow so this was played in my country :) now I have something to brag about to my friends :)
That was very interesting. Thank you.
I love your "Zugzwang", it sounds legendary :D ps: nice commentarys and thanks for your effort!
Yeah but was that technically a Zugswang, or was it a Squeeze?
Really good analysis, I have to rewind the positions several times to catch up with your speed of thought (albeit very well prepared and rehearsed beforehand).
Thanks for using photo I shared for photo challenge :-)
Hope you use all of them in upcoming videos.
Thanks for the amazing content!
I'm enjoying your channel. My interest in chess is being rekindled after decades away.
It was Geller who found the trap that can draw Fischer into a draw.
Years later Fischer published an analysis of this endgame and claimed he missed a win. And years after Fischer's analysis Botwinnik's 13 years old student Garry Kasparov publushed a rebuttal to Fischer's analysis
Fischer was the best ever and all others are way behind. They should have paid him a million dollars and make him play Karpov after Karpov became world champion. We would have seen some great chess.
"I could give him odds and still beat him."
--Bobby Fischer
"Wow! I'm as good as Botvinnik!"
--Me
I was waiting for that one :)
You do such a great job brother ! TY,,, 😁🖒♔♕♖♗♘♙
Appreciate the fact that you covered up the couch
books of Dimitrije Bjelica describes Bobby in his simplicity of a genius... they're so close and personal... blitz (best ever) tourney in Herzeg Novi and USSR vs Rest of the World match... also there was one woman in Zagreb that mesmerized Fischer and his chess ... he had strong & strange bond for Balkans...
Thanks agad!
We all came here to enjoy agadmator's vast knowledge. Didn't we?
That was a really exciting game.
"HELLO EVERYONE"....so lovely.💕
It felt to me that there were multiple points were it was Fisher's game to win and he made blew it. It never felt like he was in serious jeopardy but he kept seizing defeat from the jaws of victory.
This guys brain works like a computer. Very knowledgeable. He always gives a great analysis.
He uses the computer
These are two very special grandmasters, Botvinnik was very underrated due to circumstances beyond his control.
Huh? Under rated??? Last I checked Botvinnik was world Champ 3 times and held the top spot for longer than any other chess player in history. He basically laid the foundations for all future players to learn from. In no way was he under rated
@@RhinoXeroz Kasparov and I think also Carlsen have held the top spot for longer
I did not know that! Amazing.
Nice commentary. Thank you.
Capablanca was very clear about Botvinnik. future Champion.
Considering the tension between Fischer and the Russians I think the Fischer Interzonals will be a great series to cover. Of course, we don't need the Spassky match as those games have been highly analyzed in your channel and others.
Fichser the God of chess!!
Thank you!
Its is amazing to me that 17 moves into this game Botvirnnik is still in his preparation. How many moves did he consider with that preparation???
That means if one checks every possibility, still cant win against people like Tal, Fisher or Magnus simply cuz they have a kind of superpower talent in it.
This picture includes definitely : Maroczy, Rubinstein, Marshall, Duras, Chigorin, Janoswksi, Cohn, Berger, Tchitmersky, Schlechter, Teichmann, Tartakower, and probably Lasker, and Tarrasch (although the Lasker is not Emmanuel but his twin brother). Not all these players contested the tournament that year, and the world champion Lasker was busy writing a book on how Germany would eventually win the next world war, sunk all his money in war bonds and eventually died a pauper. ps: My favourite player will always be Adolf Anderssen.
Bobby Fischer is not world-class ... he is a class of his own! Rest in peace, Robert J. Fischer.
Before the illegal match in Sarajevo or after it?
@@ryanmckinstry1121 from birth till now and forever
@@s.mendoza5705 I am a follower of Bobby Fischer, the greatest chess champion in history.I miss him so much.
@@DARELASISI he lives forever in our hearts
Based Fischer
Fischer proved without a doubt, he was the best during his prime years as a chess player. Would Botvinnik have been sent to the gulag if he would've lost?
I wonder how many times Fischer played the evans gambit 🙂
Great game. Both played very well, that those players look very different from other pictures.
Imagine what would happen to the time line if Fischer won this game
Imagine the time line if Fischer had contracted a disease from the prostitute.
“So we can all marvel at your vast knowledge “ 😂😂 I like how u were Being genuine but still funny
Nice war between the 2 great generals :)
I love the Russian/Soviet grand masters but it was interesting to see the increased concentration level when Fischer started playing them.
I've found a really interesting variation from the end that lets black exchange pawns with white while still guarding the last black pawn with Rook on h6.
Really? care to share if you can even remember 4 yrs ago is a long time no joke
Feeding the UA-cam algorithm. Nice game. thanks.
I wish I could give this 2 thumbs up!
Fischer is love
@agadmator's Chess Channel After move 55 Rook captures pawn, it's a Lomonsov table base position and it's a DRAW.
i have aquariam and if you input the moves you can have the engine suggest hints and even set how many moves deep you want it to think, it also provides analysis as it does so
Fischer should not have been ashamed he did get all the initiative in a variation that Botvinnik had thoroughly analysed.
BTW even if it requires a genius mind like Botvinnik's to memorise all of those variations it is kinda disappointing that there is so much of the opening+middle game that is already played before the match. It is much more impressive to think that they were found over the board.
hey agad! have you considered publishing a book covering a collection of great games of your choice? might be a cool idea.
Fischer's style was more attacking, like Tal, and this is why Bobby Fischer respected Tal's play more than Botvinnik. The fact is that that Botvinnik was World Champion 3 times, for a total of 13 years, and Fischer, and Tal together held the World Champion title for only 4 years total.
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Bobby Fischer is the greatest player of them all. Love you Bobby!
that's actually great idea for channel.
Aron Nimzowitsch and Frank Marshall are playing on the last chess board from the left, Nizowitsch on the left and Marshall on the right.
I love how the hello everyone has changed through the years!
Fischer with his elegant suit.
Thanks!
Botvinnik wrote an extensive commentary about this game in a cuban magazine called "Jaque Mate". By the way, Frank Marshall it's the first on the right. And Ninzo I can't find, but I guess it's the second guy in the first table.
I found them, they are both in the picture :)
love from 2021💕
awesome!
excellent commentary
Zugzwang! I haven't heard that term since I played school level chess and studied endgame tactics back in primary school. Thanks for the pleasant flashback!
what a happy bush in those days :) Wish i could be part of them
1k away to 200k... Congratz!!!
Nice!!!
I wonder how would Carlsen play this endgame ...
TimelineUpdates he would win, i believe today's top 50 are all much stronger than 50s 60s and 70s top 10s, simply because nowadays there is much more players, and chess theory and endgame databases are much much more complex
I know, it was kinda of a rhetorical question ... Not talking about the database or anything, just the fact that Carlsen is an endgame beast ...
Well, to be honest, both Botvinik and Fisher were really strong endgame players. Don't think Carlsen would do much more here.
Matej Sedláček you spoke my mind
salmarwow ...level in chess those days compared to nowadays is like in all other sports, simply incomparable...so much improvement in every aspect of the game.
From that position it's a dead draw.
Komodo 12.1.1 says black is better by 5 centipawns at depth 39. Stockfish 9 Gives black -0.28 at depth 43. Completely drawn.