Good evening David I think the word FUN about sum's up this operating accesoris. I definitely had a great deal of it playing with this item. I think Tri-ang Hornby/Rovex tried very hard with the operating accessories over the years to engage us children... Thank you again for taking the time to watch and comment its hugely appreciated. Oscar
Must have been an exciting item at the time, with lots of play value. There must be many possibilities to develop off the self variations of this with the massive changes in technology since the early 70s. Oscar
Pretty advanced for the period, the Hornby signal control set. Simple wiring for basic train control. And the levers, still in production, now that’s enduring! I have to admit replacing toggle switches with some old Triang, and Hornby Dublo recently, they look the part especially when you get a bank of them. Thanks for having this interesting video posted Oscar!
Brilliant film clip and very well explained ( as per Norm', Thank you ). I've just bought mine, a half sleeper one, boxed 11/3/76, with £3:35 on box.. Very pleased with it, and though mint, it was sold spares or repair. I paid £6:25 which included postage, ( which I think is very good ). Thanks to your film, I can see I'm missing the pin from the solenoid, and again thanks to you I can see, what I thought was surplus is in fact the metal slider that runs inside the solenoid to drive the pin.... Thank you Oscar, I look forward to sorting this little gem out, and to more from your railway channel . Cheers Paul
Good evening Paul, sounds like a great buy to me. I,m sure the pin is also the same as the one used in the point motor. I think you going to have great fun with it. Thanks again for watching. Oscar
An interesting demonstration. Perhaps you could use it with IRDOT station stop so there is not a crash stop when you put the signal down? Thanks for uploading.
Good morning Paul, its a problem with the steel track spicily if it suffered in storage over the years. I'm not sure if it may have been made with nickel track towards the end of its run in the catalogue may be worth a look on that well know auction site. A replacement Track section could probably be made with a new piece of nickel track but it always seems a shame to cut up the originals. Thanks for watching take care. Oscar
Hi Oscar, I have one of these that I am still to effect repairs on a broken signal.. Having studied it............ I believe that, if the signal solenoid was connected to the track power and the trains were running fast enough (for adaquate power). Then one may be able to use the two "actuators" that 'trip' the "automagic" solenoid, instead of the lever frame switch? This would then , in effect, become an "automagic" system with a signal to stop the trains? The actuators and isolated section would be placed in the same places as for the "automagic" system? I have not tried it yet but I am hopeful that it would operate OK (albeit with fast trains and dead stops)? As long as the solenoid could move both the switch and signal running on a DC track supply? Cheers, Rob
Good morning Robin sounds like an interesting plan. Pease let me know how you get on with it. I think the hard stops & starts are all part of playing with these type of model trains. Thanks for watching. Oscar
As you say a terrific idea with lots of play value to be had, however, I'm not sure these items were very popular here with the two rail 00/H0 market. I've read about and seen on youtube many great operating accessories for the larger-scale American 3 rail. Thanks for watching Dylan and taking the time to comment. Oscar
Hi Dylan. to be honest, I get the impression that the market cultures were quite different. the Germans were masters of the train control systems, really going ballistic with them in the sixties. It would appear, and it's reflected a lot in period ads and magazines, the US modeller tended to want to be the master of the locomotive, running round, following the trains route, hence the early usage of walkaround controllers and early use of DCC. the European modeller at the time tended to be desirous of controlling a system, with full operating signal systems, all carefully integrated with myriad train movements. this is reflected in the systems such as the above, and for the market sharp curves, set trackage, lack of flywheels and slow moving. at the time individual control was not a priority for that market, the enjoyment was operating your own world, and the niceties of broad curves, realistic running speeds and the like were secondary. there's a wonderful catalogue image comparison: the US issue has the modeller commanding all from the cab of his loco, the German image has a rathe haughty looking madchen and she is overseeing overwhelming rows of switches and diagrams in a control tower, out the window of which you can glimpse some trains. long winded comment I know, but hoping it may shed a bit of light on this wonderful world of model rails :)
Good morning sadly at present I don’t have that model but it is one I’ve been on the lookout for recently. I’ve missed out a couple of times on that well-known auction site! So video will follow when I eventually a acquire one. Thanks for watching. Oscar
Good morning Alan, I use 3 mm LEDs for the Tri-ang colour light signals, I get them from the link below. Thanks for watching take care. Oscar www.esr.co.uk/components/products/frame-leds.htm
Loved these boxes the contents original were wrapped in yellow tissue paper
WOW, a P5 transformer. That's the one I had back in the early 1960's.
Oh the fun us children can have. Another "new" item not known about before. Thank you Oscar. David.
Good evening David I think the word FUN about sum's up this operating accesoris. I definitely had a great deal of it playing with this item. I think Tri-ang Hornby/Rovex tried very hard with the operating accessories over the years to engage us children...
Thank you again for taking the time to watch and comment its hugely appreciated.
Oscar
Lovely to hear all the old Triang history.
You learn something new every day. I never knew hornby released this set.
Would be nice to see something similar available again for today's market.
Must have been an exciting item at the time, with lots of play value. There must be many possibilities to develop off the self variations of this with the massive changes in technology since the early 70s.
Oscar
Pretty advanced for the period, the Hornby signal control set. Simple wiring for basic train control.
And the levers, still in production, now that’s enduring! I have to admit replacing toggle switches with some old Triang, and Hornby Dublo recently, they look the part especially when you get a bank of them.
Thanks for having this interesting video posted Oscar!
Thanks Andrew, those Hornby Dublo switches were really built to last.
Oscar
Brilliant film clip and very well explained ( as per Norm', Thank you ). I've just bought mine, a half sleeper one, boxed 11/3/76, with £3:35 on box.. Very pleased with it, and though mint, it was sold spares or repair. I paid £6:25 which included postage, ( which I think is very good ). Thanks to your film, I can see I'm missing the pin from the solenoid, and again thanks to you I can see, what I thought was surplus is in fact the metal slider that runs inside the solenoid to drive the pin.... Thank you Oscar, I look forward to sorting this little gem out, and to more from your railway channel . Cheers Paul
Good evening Paul, sounds like a great buy to me. I,m sure the pin is also the same as the one used in the point motor. I think you going to have great fun with it.
Thanks again for watching.
Oscar
Hi Oscar, as usual a great video, very informative, thankyou from Wairoa in New Zealand
Thanks, Jed glad you enjoyed the video.
Oscar
I have the later Hornby version (late 70’s), and I’m hopping to use on a layout from the Trackplans 5th edition.
Hi Oscar Fantastic that brought memories back thank you. Colin
A message from the future, the red girder bridge is on it's way.
Great video oscar would like to make some signals work when I build my layout
An interesting demonstration. Perhaps you could use it with IRDOT station stop so there is not a crash stop when you put the signal down? Thanks for uploading.
Very interesting and very well explained and demonstrated.
Thanks Norbert it's a great little toy. Glad you found the video interesting.
Oscar
blimey !! I never new something like this exhisted
So cool!
Thanks, Model Minutes.
Oscar
OMG I bought that in the 70’s
Good morning Peter great to hear you had one of these. Thank you for taking the time to watch.
Oscar
I use one of these on my layout. Unfortunately the old track rails have corroded terribly over the years and require constant cleaning to work
Good morning Paul, its a problem with the steel track spicily if it suffered in storage over the years. I'm not sure if it may have been made with nickel track towards the end of its run in the catalogue may be worth a look on that well know auction site. A replacement Track section could probably be made with a new piece of nickel track but it always seems a shame to cut up the originals.
Thanks for watching take care.
Oscar
Hi Oscar,
I have one of these that I am still to effect repairs on a broken signal.. Having studied it............
I believe that, if the signal solenoid was connected to the track power and the trains were running fast enough (for adaquate power). Then one may be able to use the two "actuators" that 'trip' the "automagic" solenoid, instead of the lever frame switch? This would then , in effect, become an "automagic" system with a signal to stop the trains?
The actuators and isolated section would be placed in the same places as for the "automagic" system?
I have not tried it yet but I am hopeful that it would operate OK (albeit with fast trains and dead stops)? As long as the solenoid could move both the switch and signal running on a DC track supply?
Cheers,
Rob
Good morning Robin sounds like an interesting plan. Pease let me know how you get on with it. I think the hard stops & starts are all part of playing with these type of model trains.
Thanks for watching.
Oscar
@@oscarpaisley It will have to wait until I repair the signal stop, to try it ?
Do you know if this would be compatible with DCC?
What a clever Idea. I've seen this done with 3 rail O gauge but never a 2 rail system. I wonder why accessories like this never took off in the US
As you say a terrific idea with lots of play value to be had, however, I'm not sure these items were very popular here with the two rail 00/H0 market. I've read about and seen on youtube many great operating accessories for the larger-scale American 3 rail.
Thanks for watching Dylan and taking the time to comment.
Oscar
Hi Dylan. to be honest, I get the impression that the market cultures were quite different. the Germans were masters of the train control systems, really going ballistic with them in the sixties. It would appear, and it's reflected a lot in period ads and magazines, the US modeller tended to want to be the master of the locomotive, running round, following the trains route, hence the early usage of walkaround controllers and early use of DCC. the European modeller at the time tended to be desirous of controlling a system, with full operating signal systems, all carefully integrated with myriad train movements. this is reflected in the systems such as the above, and for the market sharp curves, set trackage, lack of flywheels and slow moving. at the time individual control was not a priority for that market, the enjoyment was operating your own world, and the niceties of broad curves, realistic running speeds and the like were secondary. there's a wonderful catalogue image comparison: the US issue has the modeller commanding all from the cab of his loco, the German image has a rathe haughty looking madchen and she is overseeing overwhelming rows of switches and diagrams in a control tower, out the window of which you can glimpse some trains. long winded comment I know, but hoping it may shed a bit of light on this wonderful world of model rails :)
If you have one would you do a video of the hornby railways E2
Good morning sadly at present I don’t have that model but it is one I’ve been on the lookout for recently. I’ve missed out a couple of times on that well-known auction site! So video will follow when I eventually a acquire one. Thanks for watching.
Oscar
For your signals what size led light do you use.
Good morning Alan, I use 3 mm LEDs for the Tri-ang colour light signals, I get them from the link below.
Thanks for watching take care.
Oscar
www.esr.co.uk/components/products/frame-leds.htm
@@oscarpaisley thank you very much.
Train control without DCC. Go analogue!