Not big on the galley configuration, i.e. cooking when heeled over with no backrest. My preference is still on the older style Beneteau galley config, or current Jeanneau/Catalina. But, to each their own ...
Thank you Mondo for your feedback. 99.9 % of our customers will never need or use a backrest in the galley. Additionally it creates too many compromises. I will note that some form of backrest is not essential. I sailed about 35000 Mi of Bluewater cruising including to Atlantic Crossings with no backrest in the galley. I also know a Jeanneau 49 Sun Odyssey that crossed the Pacific to New Zealand and back with a linear Galley and no backrest......many thousands of miles of offshore cruising so its not an essential item.
@gatecrasher1970 Thank you for taking the time out of your busy day to comment. It REALLY helps feed the algorithm which promotes the video and my channel
Ugh I like Beneteau Sailboats, but twin Rudders on a Cruising Sailboat is an instant turnoff as an unacceptable Sailing Hazard. Looks like I’m going to have to look for an older model before this idiocy started. Any indication from Beneteau as to when they may be ditching this Twin Rudder Nonsense ? Best Wishes. Bob. ⛵️🌟🌟🌟
Hi Bob. I appreciate your input and feedback. There are many advantages to the two rudder system that I and many naval architects, designers, offshore sailors( racers and long distance cruisers) have recognized and experienced and that outweigh the disadvantages. Having said this however everyone's requirements and expected cruising grounds are different. For example if one were planning to go into regions with lots of ice then twin rudders would not be optimal but then neither is a boat built of fiberglass and I would choose a steel or aluminium boat for that. I would be happy to have a chat with you and illuminate some of the advantages and disadvantages of twin and single rudders. There may be some advantages that you have not thought of. I have sailed these twin rudder boats in many different regions conditions and am a convert. Please feel free to call me on my cell and we can discuss. ( 619) 823-6186
@@paulbriant2067 Hi there, as a 100% Cruiser, I am in Shallow water a ,ot of the time and .ots of Crab and Lobster pots Rule Out Twin Rudders for me, plus there is the lack of maneuverability at .ow speed in tight areas, though well addressed with a Bow Thruster. Also I find Weather Helm feedback from a Single Rudder is a useful early warning to depower, and even a Spade Rudder can get useful protection from the Keel, while most Twin Rudders are just hanging there with Zero Protection. For me, as a Cruising Sailor I will Never buy a boat with Twin Rudders. May be useful for Racing Sailboats, but a properly designed single Rudder should work just as well, as some Racers are apparently even refitting from Twin Rudders to Single (sounds a rather expensive conversion job to me tbh. Elan Yachts lost an order from me on two counts going to Twin Rudders and ditching the Shoal Draft Keel. Too much Racing emphasis for Cruising me. I ditched all Sailboat Racing aspirations after the 1979 Fastnet Race Tragedy, and so far, have lived Not to Regret That Decision. Best Wishes and Fair Winds. Bob. 👍⛵️✨️✨️✨️
@@fluffi8161 There’s usually more than one pissed off Orca in the attacking Pod sadly. It’s places where there are lots of Crab and Lobster pots that are the real twin rudder hazards though. Best Wishes. Bob.👍⛵️🌟🌟🌟🙂
@albionparrot5607 keeping in mind that virtually no other dealer in the world takes the time to label every switch breaker or major system at all let-alone taking the the time to make a label....what would you recommend? Maybe some hand carved out of teak with gold-leafed lettering?
"Detailed" review and you just walk past the mainsheet system with not even a mention that there's no traveller! Also, what about cockpit storage, handholds, backstays, manual bildge pump?? 🤔
Hi Alberto. Thank you so much for your feedback. If you notice Beneteau has not used the traveler system on their boats since 2011 so it is not something that I would normally point out. I can go into the detailed reasons for this but it has to do with the whole new rig configuration on these boats with the mast being way back in the boat. As you'll notice this video is already over 20 minutes long. If I had to mention every single detail throughout the boat it would take me an hour and a half. Much as I would love to do this, and I could, most people would check out after about 10:00
@@paulbriant2067 Thanks for your reply. I can understand that it's not easy to cover every aspect within a reasonable time-frame. However, a review from a more practical/sailor's perspective would be more useful.
@@albertofourie3294 I hear you loud and clear and your feedback always makes me do a better job so herewith a detailed video on the lack of a traveller. ua-cam.com/video/52WLMf3E1qY/v-deo.html ( I hope this link will be clickable) I will continue to try and mention as many of the standard items as possible. Maybe just a walkthru on each boat showing what is standard and what is optional would be helpul. It is an undertaking as we have 46 different models of boat with many different configuartions but that just gives me more content to create:)
Hello from San Diego! Beneteau sailboats are gorgeous!
Great walkthrough. Thanks!
Not big on the galley configuration, i.e. cooking when heeled over with no backrest.
My preference is still on the older style Beneteau galley config, or current Jeanneau/Catalina. But, to each their own ...
Thank you Mondo for your feedback.
99.9 % of our customers will never need or use a backrest in the galley. Additionally it creates too many compromises.
I will note that some form of backrest is not essential.
I sailed about 35000 Mi of Bluewater cruising including to Atlantic Crossings with no backrest in the galley. I also know a Jeanneau 49 Sun Odyssey that crossed the Pacific to New Zealand and back with a linear Galley and no backrest......many thousands of miles of offshore cruising so its not an essential item.
had to dislike when he said "livium" instead of "lithium" for the batteries
@gatecrasher1970 Thank you for taking the time out of your busy day to comment.
It REALLY helps feed the algorithm which promotes the video and my channel
Ugh I like Beneteau Sailboats, but twin Rudders on a Cruising Sailboat is an instant turnoff as an unacceptable Sailing Hazard. Looks like I’m going to have to look for an older model before this idiocy started. Any indication from Beneteau as to when they may be ditching this Twin Rudder Nonsense ? Best Wishes. Bob. ⛵️🌟🌟🌟
Hi Bob. I appreciate your input and feedback. There are many advantages to the two rudder system that I and many naval architects, designers, offshore sailors( racers and long distance cruisers) have recognized and experienced and that outweigh the disadvantages. Having said this however everyone's requirements and expected cruising grounds are different. For example if one were planning to go into regions with lots of ice then twin rudders would not be optimal but then neither is a boat built of fiberglass and I would choose a steel or aluminium boat for that.
I would be happy to have a chat with you and illuminate some of the advantages and disadvantages of twin and single rudders. There may be some advantages that you have not thought of. I have sailed these twin rudder boats in many different regions conditions and am a convert.
Please feel free to call me on my cell and we can discuss. ( 619) 823-6186
@@paulbriant2067 Hi there, as a 100% Cruiser, I am in Shallow water a ,ot of the time and .ots of Crab and Lobster pots Rule Out Twin Rudders for me, plus there is the lack of maneuverability at .ow speed in tight areas, though well addressed with a Bow Thruster. Also I find Weather Helm feedback from a Single Rudder is a useful early warning to depower, and even a Spade Rudder can get useful protection from the Keel, while most Twin Rudders are just hanging there with Zero Protection. For me, as a Cruising Sailor I will Never buy a boat with Twin Rudders. May be useful for Racing Sailboats, but a properly designed single Rudder should work just as well, as some Racers are apparently even refitting from Twin Rudders to Single (sounds a rather expensive conversion job to me tbh. Elan Yachts lost an order from me on two counts going to Twin Rudders and ditching the Shoal Draft Keel. Too much Racing emphasis for Cruising me. I ditched all Sailboat Racing aspirations after the 1979 Fastnet Race Tragedy, and so far, have lived Not to Regret That Decision. Best Wishes and Fair Winds. Bob. 👍⛵️✨️✨️✨️
If an orca bit one u have another 😃
@@fluffi8161 There’s usually more than one pissed off Orca in the attacking Pod sadly. It’s places where there are lots of Crab and Lobster pots that are the real twin rudder hazards though. Best Wishes. Bob.👍⛵️🌟🌟🌟🙂
@@brownnoise357 I think they stop attack when u interact as a friendly person.
$530k and brother Ptouch labels... smh.
Would you rather we did like a lot of dealers and not label anything?
I cannot wait to hear what alternative labeling you would recommend ?
2020 it was 179.900$ + tax + addons, fuck russia war has exploded the prices.
@albionparrot5607 keeping in mind that virtually no other dealer in the world takes the time to label every switch breaker or major system at all let-alone taking the the time to make a label....what would you recommend?
Maybe some hand carved out of teak with gold-leafed lettering?
"Detailed" review and you just walk past the mainsheet system with not even a mention that there's no traveller! Also, what about cockpit storage, handholds, backstays, manual bildge pump?? 🤔
Hi Alberto. Thank you so much for your feedback. If you notice Beneteau has not used the traveler system on their boats since 2011 so it is not something that I would normally point out. I can go into the detailed reasons for this but it has to do with the whole new rig configuration on these boats with the mast being way back in the boat. As you'll notice this video is already over 20 minutes long. If I had to mention every single detail throughout the boat it would take me an hour and a half.
Much as I would love to do this, and I could, most people would check out after about 10:00
@@paulbriant2067 Thanks for your reply. I can understand that it's not easy to cover every aspect within a reasonable time-frame. However, a review from a more practical/sailor's perspective would be more useful.
@@albertofourie3294 I hear you loud and clear and your feedback always makes me do a better job so herewith a detailed video on the lack of a traveller.
ua-cam.com/video/52WLMf3E1qY/v-deo.html
( I hope this link will be clickable)
I will continue to try and mention as many of the standard items as possible. Maybe just a walkthru on each boat showing what is standard and what is optional would be helpul. It is an undertaking as we have 46 different models of boat with many different configuartions but that just gives me more content to create:)