Jordan Peterson - The Destructive Price Of Success
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Dr Jordan B Peterson discusses the unseen price successful people pay. How painful is it to become successful? Is the price of success worth it? How does Tiger Woods teach us a story about hyper-specialisation? Are super-driven people happy? What is the issue Jordan Peterson sees with conscientious individuals when they don’t have a project? What does Jordan think causes depression amongst the successful in 2021?
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You will be that person in 30 years.
You don't really have a choice about getting older.
@@ChrisWillx You are impressed with JP saying that you can't buy youth? Why? What first grader doesn't already know that? I would rather be young and rich. Does that quote qualify me for an interview?
I prefer young and rich thank you very much :)
@@X9523-z3v Not sure what you consider old, but those people were young like you once, and had the same hopes and dreams.
Building wealth involves developing good habits like regularly putting money away in intervals for solid investments. Instead of trying to predict and prognosticate the stability of the market and precisely when the change is going to happen, a better strategy is simply having a portfolio that’s well prepared for any eventually, that’s how some folks' been averaging 150K every 7week these past 4months according to Bloomberg.
The professionals presently control the market since they not only have the essential business strategy but also have access to inside information that the general public is not aware of.
You have a very valid point, I started investing on my own and for a long time, the market was really ripping me off. I decided to hire a CFA, even though I was skeptical at first, and I beat the market by more than 9%. I thought it was a fluke until it happened two years in a row, and so I’ve been sticking to investing via an analyst.
Can you share details of your advisor? I want to invest my increased cash flow in stocks and alternative assets to achieve financial goals.
The decision on when to pick an Adviser is a very personal one. I take guidance from Vivian Jean Wilhelm to meet my growth goals and avoid mistakes, she's well-qualified and her page can be easily found on the net.
Thanks for sharing, I just looked her up on the web and I would say she really has an impressive background in investing. I will write her an e-mail shortly.
I'm nearly 60 and a multi millionaire. My greatest happiness was in my twenties when I was dirt poor. The idea that the future was ahead of me and I could be anything I wanted to be was fantastic. I was lucky, I became whatever I wanted to be. The joy was in the journey.
I hope u have grandkids because u can be apart of that again.
What advice would you give to a young person who also seeks to have a financially sound future? Love your profile pic btw!!
The American Dream.
You made it boy, now have some fun.
For a multi millionaire your trips around swamps seams pretty lame to me.
Lost money can always be earned
Lost time is lost forever
Agree, time is an offspring of Eternity
Aslo a gift from Dear Mighty God.
Why should people even care about “lost time”? We are not gonna live forever anyway
@@nostalgia7918 ,time is absolutely a gift, we are all divinely subject of time
We are obligated to find an aim to regulate our short time on earth.
You spend your time to make money, so not really
Time is money.
This is financial advice and I never give financial advice: DONT LEAVE DURING THE BEAR. If you don’t want to invest…learn. If you don’t want to learn…build. If you don’t want to build observe. DO SOMETHING…other than leave. There is so much opportunity here. Take advantage!
It took me 3 years to stop trying to predict what's about to happen in the market based on charts studying because you never know. Please, i need the help of your Investment advisor.
*ROCHELLE DUNGCA-SCHREIBER* is my portfolio-coach, I found her on Bloomberg where she was featured, I looked up her name on the internet. Fortunately I came across her site and reached out to her, you can verify her yourself.
God bless you for sharing!
It's warms me so much to see his intellectual capacities strengthening with each passing day. Hope his health continues to grow.
Great for him, but he's just having a discussion about a subject that people talk about every day, it's not rocket science... There is a sort of cult around Peterson...
@@guillaumesperlich5749 I think it’s more of his dedication that I admire about Peterson. His study, knowledge, experience, the work he’s done publishing, building a reputation that’s consistent to his character (though not all the time, since he’s human too), and tries to acknowledges/understand both sides. He doesn’t necessarily yell at people, he ask questions. I think that is very important to myself (in my own opinion). Though, he is just one of many of my admirers that I like. And he genuinely just wants everyone to be a better person.
He does have a cult-like following... though I’ve heard him talk about that before, he doesn’t want any of that status. But would rather be able to able to contribute in more to his studies/research.
(It only takes a few bad apples to make the whole look bad.)
@@EricLiuUilcire Thank you for sharing this fair analysis. I also think he is consistent and I like listening to him, although he tends to give his opinion about too many things sometimes.
@@guillaumesperlich5749 So, ask yourself why. Maybe it is because he is extremely articulate about common sense things, and sometimes bold or dogged enough to say things many are afraid to in our current culture.
W e e n y
H u t 😂
"Don't become a man of success, try to be a man of value." Einstein
Racism is a "disease of white people." Einstein
“It would be a pity if these Chinese supplant all other races. For the likes of us the mere thought is unspeakably dreary.” - Einstein
@@nachocamacho3 hilarious that you think the only 2 wrong things Einstein ever said somehow invalidate the profound wisdom of everything else he said.
🙏🏾✨i agree, this also applies to women
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There's much more racist wisdom from Einstein, you simpleton. Look it up
I'm unable to post because the Google algorithms immediately delete them
@@nachocamacho3continue to see racism in everything, you genius.
People love the _idea_ of success and the shiny stuff, but rarely what is necessary to get there
Bang.
We don't even have a future
Been staying until 1am to learn how to trade, waking up at 4am to learn how to trade lol
The means don't justify the ends in a lot of those cases.
They pretend that whatever makes them dissatisfied with their life will be fixed by being successful or rich, while the main reason for it lies in themselves. It is not taking responsibility for oneself.
Just look at big lottery winners. Many of them are worse off after a few years.
My wise aunt once told me that your business life is like a tennis ball, your family life is like a crystal ball. One you can drop and it will bounce back. The other, not so much.
@Beezow Doo Doo Zoppity Bop Bop Bop This may be more applicable to partners who tend to be self-centered or materialistic. In another way, if a person has lost significant net worth due to a gambling addiction, naive business decisions, or a hedonistic lifestyle, a partner may be wise to look elsewhere as a matter of self-preservation. History tends to repeat itself.
Wouldn't your family life bounce back easier? They are your family, they are going to be more likely to forgive you and not just disown you.
@@ericjiang7986 I don't think that would pay very well.
@@coultonharmon2266 to me that sounds like you would be abusing the trust and love of your family. It could be that we have different views of what a family entails. Do you have any children?
@@briancorboy1042 It's not about abusing trust and love, it's about we are human and make mistakes, what's a family of they just disown you if you make a mistake? And wouldn't those closest to you (your family) be more likely to give you another chance than some people at the office?
I often wish I’d had good advice in my youth. I spent way too much time working jobs I hated. I’m just grateful that I gave that up while I still have some youth and have decided to live my dreams.
Same here. Saw the light at 39.
@@threethrushes nice, like they say, today is the second best time to make the change.
What was your dream
@@maxhammer4067 living off the land. I live on a rural property with my animals and working toward being more self sufficient.
@@OverOnTheWildSide The path less travelled, in the west at least. All the best, I'm striving for the same.
"Success is only success if it is a blessing; if not, just a curse with some blessings." -
brian padrick drake
Success IS a curse and a blessing.
"People who are conscientious tend tear themselves apart when they become unemployed" So true. I went throught that hell in the past 5 months after getting layed off.
It's most likely not your fault. But maybe you can treat it as it was and do everything within your power to become better at everything that your mind tells you to be better at.
Whenever I see any sort of vacation on the horizon, I immediately start planning productive things to do during said vacation or else I will get this feeling of impending dissapointment from my future self. It's hell. I wish I wasn't conscientious.
I read Metamorphosis the first time I was laid off during the recession. It was helpful in illustrating the inevitable introspection when you've been employed all of your adult life, and then suddenly there's no work to be done. I made myself not a burden, and that was enough. Then I made best use of the time, reading, helping friends, and embracing gratitude for simply having the opportunity to exist, the opportunity to see what the next day might turn up.
@@Benjumanjo I wish I had that blessing,I just cannot stop working hard rn,I just can't,I live in a third world country that's this close to fall apart (Algeria) and I m planning to go to Canada but thats only the beginning of the road for me,I have tons of things I wanna do,25 here wish me luch
@@randomness4989 موفق بإذن الله
Heavy is the head that wears the crown.
Amen.
Lol shakespeare..nice
Shakespeare? I thought it was Limp Bizkit... 🤷♂️
Naaah but these leftists think it's easy to be a CEO, you just need to be white... While they couldn't even clean their own room
Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown William Shakespeare.
Jordan Peterson doesn’t just offer pearls of wisdom; he offers whole treasure troves of it.
Wisdom? Do you have an example?
@Vivek Joseph I was asking for an example. In a recent podcast he says you should seek relationships with people who you are attracted to and who you trust. That wouldn't be an example because everyone already knows it.
I learnt a whole load of nothing.
@@psychcowboy1 There are lots of thing you think you already know that you soon realize you never bothered to apply to your own life. The way I see it, this is very simple. You watch his stuff. You choose to self reflect. You learn and grow. If you find nothing of wisdom, then move on. Thats assuming you bothered to self reflect
@@tauhidd.8093 I watch his stuff. I reflect. I laugh. Recently he says that as you get older people you haven't met become invisible. Whatever he is smoking he should cut back. He also says that hard core clinical psychology research determined that if you see and smell a plate of yummy food you may eat it. Thank God for clinical psychology.
This should be everywhere...because I feel like everyone nowadays is on a stressful meaningless journey to become the next rich and famous.
It's always been that way.
Fuck rich and fuck famous. The only truly tangible thing we have is memories. The sound of laughter, the smile of a loved one, the conversation that opened the mind. There is no price, just your time and eyes to see, your ears to hear, your arms to hug. Connection is wealth.
@@christopherchmiel7872 well said
Never envy someone else's success. You don't know what they had to do to obtain it.
Or to maintain it.
Lol, I’ve first hand experienced the monumental stress one can feel chasing success. Especially if you’re highly conscientious.
Even then, I wasn’t a stone in a pond compared to how stressful life can get when over 100, let alone 10, people depend on you for income and guidance
well said
It gets lonely at the top for a reason.. your friends, family and almost everyone you know will be jealous
You’re also a massive target. People claw at you for your resource, not for your humanity. When all you have is nothing... there’s plenty of that to go around... all you have is your humanity.
Yep, anything you do that's meant to improve your status and those closest to you try to discourage by saying you're good enough blah blah blah.
Yeah you can never be free from jealousy. The best way to avoid it is to stay low profile.
I’m not even on the top but still feels lonely
@@kaluoer8377 I'd say being even top third separates your experience and consciousness from an awful lot of humanity.
Yes, the tradeoff often isn't worth it. I stopped professional speaking because "life on the road" made me miserable and took me away from my wife and son. This was the verse that made the decision easier: "The blessing of the Lord makes a person rich, and *_he adds no sorrow with it._* " Proverbs 10:22. Now, if the thought of an "opportunity" gives me those bad feelings, I won't do it no matter how much it pays.
Wisdom!
Love this!! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for that verse.
I’m 51 and I have 2 million dollars. I just dedicate myself to higher learning and physical fitness now as well as loving my wife and son. Keeping busy doing what you like to do is important. Working on my PhD now.
EXCELLENT! I am 54 and plan on 'scoring' 2, maybe even 3 masters degrees while still in my 50s! I see you enjoy education as well?
I can relate, I’m quite well off and definitely wealthier than the average person around my age. But it comes with the cost of working 75-80 hour weeks, all year with no days off. My friends have all disappeared and I have never had a relationship, but I’ve backed myself into a corner through the choices I’ve made and I’m willing to bare the consequences both positive and negative.
Life is meant to be lived ,enjoy ur wealth
I think Jordan is brilliant. Many people try to sell them self as therapists. They don’t have Jordan’s wisdom.
Therapists earn the objective credentials to be able to call themselves "therapists."
I've learnt this lesson while I was young and my father owned three companies and literally never had the time to do anything but work 24/7 (it was quite insane).
Insane is actually a good way to describe it.
Like there a person inside but their body is just going through the motions of success while their humanity is turned off
@@RustyShakleford1I wouldn't say they're inhuman, rather maybe a bit harsh. But what would you do if you had a business, you worked many years for usually day in and out. Which is always stake for going bankrupt at any given time. And not only small but also big ventures collapse. Be bigger boys have some spare change, but yeah.
@@Z3r0_d4yz I agree they are still human it’s just like they can turn it off for a few years at a time focusing on business
This Red skull guy sounds wise
These magical super-nazi’s have some good insights.
@@ChrisWillx That's why they're super nazis. They replaced killing and racism with industriousness and conscientiousness.
Wise, which would exclude him from being a Marvel character.
@Jesus loves a Shovelhead It is easy to be wise, just think of something stupid and say the opposite.
@@EnglishmanB3
Wisdom isn’t the opposite of stupidity . It’s the opposite of ignorance.
Never realised Kim Kardashian is in the same domain of competence as tiger woods and Elon musk
Lol, I was like Elon Musk fuck yeah, Tiger Woods mmm well Ok, then Kim Kardashian oh fuck no
@Alejandra Serena If she's the American dream regardless of her success that's pretty god danm shallow. Didn't she make a sex vid to get herself more limelight or was it her mum that encouraged her to make fame out of it :/. Elon came from south Africa moved to Canada then the US and made the first private rocket company in the world or shall I say the most successful one and on top he created the idea of PayPal which changed the economic landscape, created the first truly successful electric car brand and is working on being the first man to put someone on Mars...I think Elon will be remembered in the next 200 years
the reason reveals keys to the terrain of society
@@puhelimentili805 "Tiger Woods mmm well Ok" you're an idiot
@@puhelimentili805 Woods is more successful than anyone in your entire bloodline
Prof. Jordan Peterson and his host raise various excellent points and this leads to the question we should all ask and that is: How does one define and live out personal success? Because the way one answers this question will, to a large degree, determine one's outcome in life this side of heaven.
I wanna chill and sleep and fuck all day. Dont need millions for this can be a bum and not do shit and feel amazing
It's not that hard. Good relationships with the people around you, a job that fits you, and physical health. Financial security etc is nice but lower on the list.
@@Johnny-cz2wv ... Defining personal success may not be hard, but the various choices one makes in this regard will have different outcomes. For example, using your list of priorities starting with good relationships ... does this start with Jesus Christ? Start with one's wife, family, or friends? And what makes any relationship good? Here we might get 20 different answers by 20 people.
@@Johnny-cz2wv You see Johnny, King has just shown us that even in defining good relationships he denies a relationship with Jesus Christ, our Saviour and Lord.
@@Christ_Is_Faithful What makes you a King? King over what or whom? It seems to me like you suffer from an elevated self beyond reason. You, like the rest of us, are a sinner in need of the Saviour and Lord you deny.
"The blessing of the Lord makes rich and adds no sorrow" (Prov. 10:22).
But Jesus also said...."blessed are the poor....". Prosperity Gospel is unbiblical.
@@MrBandaman spiritual poverty being poor does not equal humility I have seen simple people who are proud and arrogant.
@@martinmwenda3551 Being rich and wealthy does guarantee spiritual poverty either. The best thing is not too show off, not to look down on others (prise and arrogance), but live a simple and normal life. And yes, poor or simple people can be proud and arrogant as well. No one is perfect. But the way you quoted that passage seems to suggest that those who are rich are blessed while those who are not lack that blessing or are cursed. We should be careful, because life has more to it than to measure it by richness or poverty.
@@MrBandaman God made Abraham, Isaac, David, Solomon, etc. rich. Proverbs 10:22 is in the Bible, as is 2 Cor. 8 & 9. Greed is unbiblical. And "Blessed are the poor is qualified by "in spirit", which you left out. Jesus said God anointed Him to preach to the poor. There are poor people who are greedy and stingy. And I believe the Bible encourages hard work and generosity, not just giving, but working hard too.
God was not talking about money. He was talking about righteousness and a right relationship with Him. All you need is food, clothing and shelter, as it were. Paul says that in one of his epistles. And God says He will always provide that for those who follow Him, and eternal life when this one is over.
“ those who are determined to be rich fall into temptation and a snare and many senseless and harmful desires that plunge men into destruction and ruin.” 1Tim 6:9
Also, you need to define what is success for you.
As I grow older, I realize this more and more.
As a very consciensious person currently without a job, Dr. Peterson is spot on. I rip myself apart every day because of it.
My suggestion Pick up an intense hobby - art , wood working, crafts, physical fitness depending on your interests and ability.
Best Wishes
It seems rather obvious that aspiring to surpass humanity entails leaving it behind.
Just like mah boi Rich Piana first surpassed then left humanity behind.
RIP Rich
Some people just live life while others spend their life trying to live.
That's awesome. Reminds me of that quote off The World Is Not Enough. "There's no point in living, if you can't feel alive". Maybe there's a connection to a harsh truth in there, because of how many people, including celebrities who have taken their lives. A lot of that I heard is to do with severe depression. The mainstream media glorify fame still. Cherry picking the good bits as always.
@@Johny40Se7en yup, people who always want something end up with too much to carry.
@@Johny40Se7en do you feel fully alive !
@@consciousrosin Hahaa, I just thought of Elder Scrolls, when people get greedy and get over encumbered 😅😂
@@nunu4evaaa Nope. Everything but the girl. However, I saw this gem of a video recently which made me realise that I'm not really missing anything by longing for a soul mate. I'm just holding a door shut against love. I have SO much in my life which I'm able to be truly thankful for. Letting go of so much desire to be with someone, especially in particular, feels like a great step. And something which needs to be progressive.
It's like they say, you can't be proper happy with someone else, if you're not completely happy with yourself while alone. A partner isn't going to add anything. Sure they could compliment me, that's the whole essence and point of a soulmate, but there should never be an urge for it 😅
Anyway, I've gone off on quite the tangent here haven't I... 🤔😆
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"Who knows the price you pay for hyper-specialization." I had to pause the video with the way that hit me.
I'm currently rounding a corner in my professional life. Don't remember if I've ever been this focused, or tuned in, for this long under this pressure. My sex life is suffering and my productively is excellent. I care a little bit about the sex, but not enough to stop what i'm doing. So I keep running, doing push-ups and working.
You can have a lot. But you cannot have it all. And not at the same time. ..there is a price, a sacrifice.
Just love Jordan Peterson, such an important voice in these times💜
A life where you end up sacrificing meaningful relationships to work 80 hours per week to become rich sounds crazier and crazier to me with each passing day. From what I see, people work, and are generally expected to work, a dangerously unhealthy portion of their time. I recently procured a well-paid job that I don't hate - the first time in my life - and even still I wouldn't say I would want to do it forty hours per week. Work is important, but it shouldn't be the only thing in life. Family, hobbies, and self-reflective alone time are absolutely crucial.
Works only important if you need the money. Like NEED the money. The economy is getting shit so I don’t blame people for working hard but the real issue comes with not progressing or having an actionable way out of the non stop work.
A lot of people are too tired from work to even think about it and spend money recklessly because of it and it’s a never ending dress back loop.
Tiger Woods is not happy... he keeps trying to find new ways to blow up his life... he needs the struggle to give his life meaning and when you're rich it's hard to create that unless you do it yourself...
It really comes down to your definition of success. Money with expert level prestige in one’s chosen field or having an engaging life with someone intimate to share it with, as well as quality friends. Money is important sure, but there are more important things in the world.
Aphorism: "No matter how famous and successful one gets, one is haunted by the feeling of being a fraud because, at some level or other, one senses the gap between public and private perception."
This is called imposter syndrome, but not everyone who is successful suffers from it.
@@anonygent Lol no that's referring to the fact when you're famous the public will look at you like some superior being but many people in your personal life may not do the same because they know you're just another person
@@lifotheparty6195 I didn't have anywhere near your experience while growing up, but I don't think my aphorism is as applicable to yours as you might imagine. It sounds to me more like being revisited by trauma. Am I right?
In 2017 I made 252k. In 2018 I made 247k, in 2019 I made 251k. In 2020 I quit because I wanted my time back. Now I make 77k but I have 30 more hours a week to myself and now I’m 10x as happy.
Awesome!! I’m working many hours a week and have accrued about $125,000 at 22 years old myself.
do you have a business or work for acompany?
We are all amazed at an athlete like Simone Biles. However, I cannot imagine the price she has paid in time, relationships, and generally missing out on a balanced life to become the GOAT. Much credit to her, but much empathy as well.
Who ?
@@JonMcG Simone Biles - the most incredible female gymnast who has ever lived. She’s the GOAT, and nobody would even be in 2nd place.
@@jaco7675 she must be , ive never heard of her .
@@JonMcG If you’ve even casually watched women’s gymnastics, she’s head and shoulders above the crowd. Do a UA-cam search sometime. 👍
@@jaco7675 actually I’m very much into sports , still havnt heard of her .
Just take it easy. Listen to your heart. Don't let anyone tell you, that you should be the best. Just be good and go the whole way.
I'm not sure where this saying originated from, and I'm sure you are well intentioned by saying it, but I must disagree...I would say, Don't follow your heart, but followed the plans and purposes that God has created you for. The Bible says that the heart is the more deceitful than all else...It also says that He has good plans and purposes for you, plans to give you a hope and a future. Be blessed!
I'm not sold on that. There are many people who are both successful/wealthy AND happy. Or at least not less happy than the average person. Happiness is more of a skill you have to train rather than the result of your environment.
Agreed.
Solid point. Too black and white what people think it is. I think most people just want to feel better about themselves for not being rich.
I know a lot of people and couples and family who r happy, they have genuine friends, genuine families etc, these frnds were wid them thru thick n thin
But also being broke n single is a thing, many people rnt rich aren't happy , working a dead end job, getting cheated on
Most people I know are rich cause they have inherited wealth and have networks and families who r equally rich , so they have genuine people around
This is a rather mind expanding video
Some paths to success are akin to be married to an extremely abusive spouse who beats you, berates you every day, but provides food, shelter and clothing that makes you dependent on them.
This is it!!!!
yes, she was a real B....
This is the where the genre of "pact with the devil" story comes from. People wish so badly to be something they are not suited for that they sell their souls. The Devil doesn't trick them. They become the kind of people who have the things that they envy.
You’re successful if you’re successful you can be the best at whatever it does not guarantee a damn thing.
Truly, people don't realize that there is a very big price to pay for success and riches. You can be the poorest person on the face of this planet and you can also be the happiest. It's up to the individual. Honestly, I'd love to have my youth back and be poor.😊
The poorest person on the planet is probably starving to death as you read this. I highly doubt they are happy.
Thank you Jordan! You put that in my face in my 60th year. Summed the past 30 on a personal level of where I am. ✌🏽
Funny hearing JP talk about this knowing he's literally been working 12 hours days for his entire adult life.
@ Solving The Money Problem Seems like you're speculating for the sake of suggesting hypocrisy. There is no evidence of this admission when this subject comes up around at 4:30.
Why would that be funny? He's at the top of his realm, by and large, and is warning everyone just what that takes. He's not saying it's necessarily wrong, just that it's reality.
@@noconspiracytheoriesplease.745 he said in an interview (I don't remember which one) he started working around 80 hours per week when he was 23
and probably more sometimes.
@@noconspiracytheoriesplease.745 that's completely asinine and making several assumptions.
It's not just the huge price one needs to pay to be Tiger Woods, it's that one could very well pay the price and NOT end up being anything special.
Now that would REALLY suck!
Brilliant brilliant brilliant. I’ve never heard anyone else articulate this
Tiger Woods, a great example of the rugged individuality that we all need to strive for........from lesson number 7 from the 12 rules for life.
For real especially in the music industry, I’ve made many hits on top of the charts for many ppl but as I get older all the spark is not as good as before the fame/popularity.
Perhaps the biggest problem I see when it comes to conversations about "success" is the definition of the term. It's rarely parsed out. Generally it's assumed success is correlated with financial gain and/or influence. But what about psychological (spiritual, mental, emotional) success? This may involve overcoming those demons that have plagued you and/or your family, or breaking thru mental illness, or finding inner peace even when life gets rocky. What about social/relational success? This might involve the building of a wonderful marriage, or the cultivating of deep & meaningful friendships. What about physical success? This could involve overcoming illness and/or learning the tools to keep one's health at a high level.
After all, Jesus said that a person's "LIFE" does not consist in the abundance of their possessions (Luke 12:15).
Exactly! People don't touch up on the fact that there's many forms of success. Personal successes are more important than the type of clout, status, financial kinda success.
This is so true. the so-called success of the world is hard to fulfill and it will eat up a person's lifetime literarily. I think being powerful than others is not success but leaving a life of service is.
"After climbing a great hill, one only finds that there are many more hills to climb."- Nelson Mandela
Michael Jackson could be the brightest example.
Ye his father abused him too
So true. He was amazing at his craft but the world tore his ass up from the beginning smh
@@SweaterSwagg he was also a perfectionist too tho
He sacrificed a LOT for worthless, vapid fame
the key is to know when you have enough..and then enjoy that
Everyone if given a chance would prefer being young and poor than old and rich. It's has nothing to do with money, it's all to do with proximity to death.
Nope. I prefer rich and old actually.
I don’t want anything they have. Gratitude for what you have and understanding what is truly important in this short life is where happiness and true joy comes from. Have faith in God, do for others and stop wanting more “stuff”. Yes, sometimes it’s easier said than done but everything worthwhile is that way.
A good example is also Thanos. He gained all the infinity stones, thought he was inevitable but in the end just crumbled to dust.
It certainly won't help me to be envious anymore than having a tiny handful of people owning half the world's wealth helps society!
“Everyone want to be a body builder, but ain’t no one want to lift no damn heavy weight” Ronnie Coleman
Wow... So happy to see you ticking in your articulation of intellectual ideas & presenting them Dr Jordan.... Love & God Bless
When in Europe I work to live, when in America I live to work. On one hand I'm glad I was forced to learn the work ethic, on the other, my social life suffered tremendously as a consequence
Stagnant inflation-adjusted wage growth since 1970s + abscence of "socialist" policies = A country where you really have to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, or else.
In Asia and india evrything is about family frnds happiness etc,
I agree with Jordan about a lot of things but imo he's considering people old when they're not: 30 years old is VERY young nowadays, and being 60 isn't old at all. 90-100 peeps are everywhere these days. So I'd say that at 60 there's still A LOT you can achieve and do.
I think what people envy in others is the end result of what they have and that end result is often all material things. It's as if well being is not even factored into that desire. I also think many live under the illusion that money and material things are what brings a fulfilled life.
I agree I lost my husband and daughter within 2 years I rather be poor than be rich . My husband was rich but very unhappy and committed suicide. My daughter had cancer.
I still can't fathom how so many people hate this guy. I guess the truth just hurts too much for them.
Probably because they're unable (or unwilling) to function at his level.
The key to wealth is not in having many possessions but few wants
I read John McEnroe's auto biography where he said that it was all fun and games in the beginning travelling the world with the other tennis players, play during the day against each other and party together at night. Along came Ivan Lendl...Lendl absolutely believed that he is not as talented as these other guys so he resolved to just out practice them. It wasn't long before the rest of them realized that the good ole days are over and they better start being more serious about the game. After that it was eat, drink and sleep tennis. Focused like a laser beam all the time.
Happiness is something that comes and goes - you can be happy but not all the time - true joy and peace come from knowing God and this is only a small part of your journey
It's so incredibly difficult to not compare yourself to others. And it's so clear that we shouldn't do it because no one has lived one second of our life and the comparison that can be made is mostly meaningless and holds no weight. It's an ego thing.
I like that you say it makes you very happy when we subscribe. That's smart and honest, I love it!!
This is why the red skull guards the soul stone. He knows all about sacrifice.
I love this comment, embracing what’s there and going with it in a very funny and apt manner. Well done 👍🏻 🙏🏻
I’ve worked in huge global companies within the corporate sectors. Everyone at the top has paid handsomely with things money can’t buy. I said to myself while young, I would stay just at the “cusp” of of that kind of success. I’ve managed to balance it, all though there have been 1000s of moments I was so jealous of their financial success and bonus structures. It’s a difficult tight rope to walk.
If we want other people’s blessings, we also have to want their crosses
I’m so happy he’s on my side 😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️🎉🎉🎉 i’m young and poor and people & the dog like me more!! I have been very hurt by my rich & old family. They are so abusive that i have kept as much distance from them as possible. I’m so afraid of new people if anyone asks me a question in public i’ll give a yes or a no answer & disappear quickly. All my partners were rich & mean and some were poor and mean
The same can be said for music. A young guitarist may desire to one day be as great as Jimi Hendrix. But what is the cost of being that great?
Any one can be a great guitarist,It just takes hours of practice. Hendrix had his guitar around his neck 24/7 to achieve this.
@@tonywright8294 Yep. Hendrix reached that 10k hours mark and then some, a long time ago. But what I've observed is most of these great artists are OCD as a result. They work hard, and they PLAY hard. They overindulge in vices (drugs, women, etc.) like they do with music. And that can be a great cost.
Good to see JP back in the game
Sad that so many people equate happiness with wealth.
The idea of becoming successful in the popular sense and ending up feeling miserable on the inside scares the hell out of me. That's been making me constantly ask myself what really matters to me at the end of the day. A balanced life really seems to be path which takes to the type of success I'm after.
scientific research requires absolute dedication and commitment. we don't aim to be any celebrity or to "beat" anyone. curiosity drives the researcher. we aren't famous and we aren't precisely wealthy or powerful. when a researcher get a top management position his/her research suffers. by the way, women don't leave at there thirties, they are even more committed if such thing is possible because we are all imbalanced
Dudes looking really well considering he had that rough patch!
There's no greater failure than success.
The harsh truths of celebrity. And before someone says something like "money can't buy happiness, but I'd rather cry in a ferrari" you think a ferrari's gonna give a shit about your sobbing? 😅🤣
Love is pure the only treasure - Frankie Goes to Hollywood 👍😜
Brilliant discussion.
Money can almost literally buy happiness though, it just becomes a burden past a certain point.
@@shyguy1845 I can see your point, but money's just a tool. Sure you can buy things that you most desire with it. But look at so many people living in poverty who have only basic things and a little bit of farmland to grow plant foods for themselves and their family. They 'get by' on a minimalist lifestyle. Maybe that's why Buddhist monks often encourage such a minimalist approach to many aspects of life. They're obviously onto something there.
But the thing is, even when you finally end buying something you've wanted for a while, like a car, or a bike. They need fuel, parts, maintenance, general upkeep etc, which can often be quite stressful, or worrisome, especially if you're a person with a very busy lifestyle. What's the point of desiring such items then. And then you get many who base an illusion of happiness around that particular thing. They may say that "I can't live without it"... seriously? 🥴😅😂
Just turns into a vicious cycle of clinging onto materialism.
@@Johny40Se7en Money is almost never the problem, it is merely an optionality tool, how you use it would define how it would affect your life. It is between taking advantage of the health benefits money can buy or using it to indulge in pleasures that'd ruining your health, it's your choice.
@@shyguy1845 "between taking advantage of the health benefits money can buy or using it to indulge in pleasures that'd ruining your health, it's your choice."
I understand what you mean by that. And I'm guessing you're in the States? from the money and health benefits thing you mentioned. I'm so glad the NHS in Britain isn't bloody privatised. It's so wrong that people have to pay for those little advancements when health is so important, especially now. Scum bags always want to profit off stuff like that though don't they.
God bless Jordan Peterson! Thanks!
Aphorism: "Selling one’s soul for stardom or something approximating it! How many lucky ones have avoided this as risk, as temptation, by simply being a few degrees less successful in life!"
Young and ANYTHING is usually considerably better than everything else!
Nice points, C.👍
Interesting to hear someone who peddled the idea of an absolute dominance hierarchy now talk about the relativity of each person's circumstances, opportunities, and limitations.
It's easy to get a little overshadowed by Jordan's raw insight but you've added some very useful insights yourself here...great job
Sometimes the enemy of success isn't failure or haters or any other person, it's success itself. A little taste of success can breed a whole lot of complacency.
If those rich people still have the same troubles they should give me some of that wealth.
They won’t give you nun. Because to them, money is the only thing left they hope will make them happy.
@@JesusForgivesAllSins Guess we are all doomed to misery, then.
Capitalism in a nutshell.
You always have to guard against making other people's dreams your dreams.
Had to run this back 10 times
Thank you
Say everyday “it does not matter what anyone thinks, it only matters what God thinks”
Our modern society and western culture is obsessed with celebrity and digital era that everyone wants to be and can be a celebrity with no competent skill set that's adds value to their communities that what people have way different ideas of success. Success monetarily but a life without meaning, I characterize someone's success with how they are connected and treat the people in and around their lives. I've seen a wealthy man where no one went to his memorial only to get their share of what he left behind,well then I actually encountered a man who was broke left with nothing and after his passing great love honor and respects were given as send off to a kind generous spirit who left behind an ending legacy. There's levels to our perspectives.
In the pursuit of trying to accomplish something as big as my potential, I have lost almost everything _four_ times in the last _10 years_ . That means going from home to homeless, financially stable to $100,000 insolvent. And despite having done that four times by age 34, I still see no reason I shouldn't do it again. God knows I'll figure it out at some point. But if I do this over and over and over until I'm dead, I feel it's worth it.
Who knows right? If what you are doing make you happy, than it is ok, but it is not, then you sure need to ask the questions. Fish meant to swim and monkey meant to climb, are you doing what you meant to do?
I lost everything last year when the market crashed and had to rebuild myself... it was one of the biggest gut punches I ever experienced but you learn about yourself and grow... which is what I think everyone wants to do in some shape or form..
@@wavesbnice1 tough luck bruh, i hope you doing ok now when the market is back up.
@@alexdo3838 I have made it back and more but holding onto it and worrying about it is hard
@@wavesbnice1 if you find that you are constantly worring, and you dont like it. Then just throw away your worries and live. There is a book that taught me how to do so, but it is in my language so i dont know itnin English, but it teach you the technics the way of thinking that stop you from worrying too much. Eg. Treat everyday as thay are saparated, once the old day is gone, it is gone, what you have to do is live you today, and think about today only, just practise that alone, would take off your shoulder tons of weight. Cheer.
Just added a new word to my vocabulary: hyperspecialization
“I think everybody should get rich and famous and do everything they ever dreamed of so they can see that it's not the answer.”
― Jim Carrey
Thank you 🙏