There’s more to do with rhythms! There’s four instruction classes of differing sequence length. The challenge is to write code that both calculates something and also sounds great. Hmmm…..art form?
The Amiga computer, having a shared RAM between the CPU and the graphics ASIC did have a small program that could visualize the RAM - one pixel per bit. You could see variables change values and you could browser around the RAM by moving the mouse.
I used to work in Crossbar telephone exchanges. They used a 'marker' frame to calculate the best way to rout phone calls. Not quite like this but they were relay based and did calculations using relays only.
about 20 years ago, i started designing a project named FUBAR -- fitting for a relay computer, and i had come up with new meanings for the letters, too, though all i can remember now is R stood for 'relay'. i had designed memory and several of the processor bits like an adder etc, but never built it. i always wanted to hear that sound, like i'm hearing from your project. thank you! i subscribed, i look forward
HOLY smokes!! Every school needs one of these to teach people the basics of computers. How has the internet kept this marvel from me for over a year. And why can I like this video only once????
The very first music played by a computer was done by a hobbyist sometime in the 1970s. They ACCIDENTALLY discovered that their 8008 processor based scratch-built computer, when used next to an AM radio, caused a tone when the radio was tuned to harmonic of the processor's frequency, and they subsequently created a program consisting of "empty loops" of different lengths to make a song play on the radio.
@@tyson31415That's absolutely false. The fist computer music was CISR Mark 1 in 1951, and the second was the Machester Mark 1 playing a few difference songs of which we still have existing recordings. Bell labs developed a musical computer language and Beat Cannon by John Robinson Pierce was released in 1960... all of these predate your claim by 10-20 years. Peter Zinovieff composed January Tensions on a PDP-8 one of the first private individuals to buy a computer and produce music also predating your claim by several years. The technique you describe was almost certainly discovered on mini computers or the like in the 60s (larger computers probably would have buses that would be TOO noisy). The IBM 1401 at a bare minimum is documented to have played AM radio music via BUS EMI... and that was in operation from 1964-1971.... the fact is this was probably common knowledge even longer than that as everybody had AM radios, and computers with lots of bus EMI had been around since the 50s....
I get the fascination people have with things like clockwork and other intricate machinery. Some people feel like that's all gone, and mourn the loss, but I feel like that's a lack of imagination. It's all still here-in silicon. I like things like the computer shown in the video, because it brings the intricacy of digital computers to the forefront. If someone wants to keep that sense of wonder gotten from complexity and precision, I recommend software development-low-level programming in particular.
Obviously it doesn't have much purpose. Relay logic consumes a lot of power, is large, hard to manufacture, and very slow, but it is SO COOL HEARING IT WORK.
Incredible work, aesthetically satisfying sound and lights and it actually does something too. I think I see either the address register or the program counter.
This is not only functional and a design masterpiece itself no.... It is beautiful to watch and I have problems to shut my mouth when I take a look at this....
I am both amused and impressed! It sounds like an old telephone switching office. I tried building something like yours when I was a kid in the 70's but I don't think it ever worked.
I was introduced with computer when I was around 11 years old It was an 8088 PC with green screen . I was Amazed ..... And this film makes me Amazed more 😊
That noise reminds me of every middle school and high school class where there was always at least 4 kids at the back of the class tapping beats on the desk with their pencils before the teacher arrived
I'm most amazed you have no problem touching it after having your staticky dog in your lap with synthetic fabrics on. A solid state computer would never survive that repeatedly. I know it's not a huge issue. I've shocked ICs (74HC173 D latches) and LEDs with a small van de graff generator right on the data pins and they still worked fine after. I still feel the need to touch a ground source before working if I just put on a sweater or touched a cat.
It looks like it’s mounted to a bi-fold door. I thought, whenever I see old doors laying around I also naturally think, “this would make a perfect computer mount”!
This could be an excellent tool to help people understand the basics of how a computer works. Could be an interesting tool for education if you released plans for it.
Man, this is amazing to see! I love the clattering sound and the blinking lights. I actually had this idea myself a long time ago, but never came around to actually implement it.
I get it. I always imagined building a programmable computer from tiny plastic tubes and valves that would run on water pressure. Every electric component can be simulated with hydraulic mechanisms.
US military researched pneumatic logic gates as part of some guidance system for intercontinental missiles that would be unaffected by electromagnetic pulses. They were assembled from layers of glass with channels cut into them, made by Corning. Not sure if successful or not, or whether they just found better ways to shield electronics.
Schematics and architecture details for DAVIAC now available at daviac.net
I wish I could build myself one
A good pair of shoes and a bit of skills for tapdance give a better result.
when you will make a video of it running it a full program?
Thank you for sharing these!
I like the rhytmetic sounds the relays make, it's musical. "20000 years of human history hitting their drums for this moment" kind of feeling.
There’s more to do with rhythms!
There’s four instruction classes of differing sequence length.
The challenge is to write code that both calculates something and also sounds great.
Hmmm…..art form?
is that a quote from something or did you just randomly drop one of the most amazing statements ive ever read?
Yep, sounds like Brazilian maracatu drumming, love it!
That was exactly my first thought! "I want to sample it an put a kick drum under it". 😄 And I think I will.
@@sevencostanza3883You're absolutely right!
To be honest I would absolutely love to watch the DAVIAC do an arithmetic shift left for 9 minutes.
Seems quite a few of us would want that just for the audio!😊
@@ian_b As well as trying to figure out what is happening where trough the blinkenlights
I second this. I want the full 9 minute video. I could listen to this magical sound for hours and I don't have a DAVIAC. u.u
Yeah I was kinda getting into it!
I love the visualization of the memory contents.
There did used to be memory-mapped electronic displays. So if you used one for RAM, you could visually debug your program on screen.
need a closer look at these modules
The Amiga computer, having a shared RAM between the CPU and the graphics ASIC did have a small program that could visualize the RAM - one pixel per bit. You could see variables change values and you could browser around the RAM by moving the mouse.
Right? Haha
We just watched this video at work ( Intel ) and you are officially our hero.
Haha. Hi Intel team! Let us know if you need any tips on miniaturisation
Intel wishes it had this kind of genius.
Completely archaic and I absolutely love it! Well done super cool!
Now I get why they always had the computers make that noise in the 1950s science fiction.
My god! Ive been into hobby electronics and computer programming for many years and this might very well be the coolest thing ive ever seen!
It was Harry Porter's ( not Potter ) relay computer which got me into Minecraft back in 2011 : ua-cam.com/video/n3wPBcmSb2U/v-deo.html
I went to school to learn this stuff and it gave me an appreciation of our world today which is built on so many levels of this complex simplicity.
linux users copying and pasting
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Haha, very funny :-|
For what it lacks in speed, it makes up for in style and sexy flashing lights! 🙂 Thank you - it's a beautiful piece of work!
This is insanely cool! I’d love to see a more detailed video of the rig and how it works
We’ll be making more videos soon!
@@davidwarren2597 we’re waiting :)
@@tambourine_man yeah 🖖🖖
Lol
I used to work in Crossbar telephone exchanges. They used a 'marker' frame to calculate the best way to rout phone calls. Not quite like this but they were relay based and did calculations using relays only.
I feel like this would be an absolutely excellent teaching aid for how computers work on a basic level.
about 20 years ago, i started designing a project named FUBAR -- fitting for a relay computer, and i had come up with new meanings for the letters, too, though all i can remember now is R stood for 'relay'. i had designed memory and several of the processor bits like an adder etc, but never built it. i always wanted to hear that sound, like i'm hearing from your project. thank you! i subscribed, i look forward
FUBAR LOL
FUBAR indeedee 😂
I dunno exactly why but the blinky-lights and clicking relays make me smile.
HOLY smokes!! Every school needs one of these to teach people the basics of computers. How has the internet kept this marvel from me for over a year. And why can I like this video only once????
The world needs more people like this. What a work of of art.
I wonder if there were ever any competitions to create programs with the sickest beats
The very first music played by a computer was done by a hobbyist sometime in the 1970s. They ACCIDENTALLY discovered that their 8008 processor based scratch-built computer, when used next to an AM radio, caused a tone when the radio was tuned to harmonic of the processor's frequency, and they subsequently created a program consisting of "empty loops" of different lengths to make a song play on the radio.
@@tyson31415That's absolutely false. The fist computer music was CISR Mark 1 in 1951, and the second was the Machester Mark 1 playing a few difference songs of which we still have existing recordings. Bell labs developed a musical computer language and Beat Cannon by John Robinson Pierce was released in 1960... all of these predate your claim by 10-20 years. Peter Zinovieff composed January Tensions on a PDP-8 one of the first private individuals to buy a computer and produce music also predating your claim by several years. The technique you describe was almost certainly discovered on mini computers or the like in the 60s (larger computers probably would have buses that would be TOO noisy). The IBM 1401 at a bare minimum is documented to have played AM radio music via BUS EMI... and that was in operation from 1964-1971.... the fact is this was probably common knowledge even longer than that as everybody had AM radios, and computers with lots of bus EMI had been around since the 50s....
@@Wingnut353You tell em boss 🤣
It's a thing of beauty. Now you have to mount it in some cool artsy way. Call it something like "ASL in 9 Minutes of Coolness".
I get the fascination people have with things like clockwork and other intricate machinery. Some people feel like that's all gone, and mourn the loss, but I feel like that's a lack of imagination. It's all still here-in silicon. I like things like the computer shown in the video, because it brings the intricacy of digital computers to the forefront.
If someone wants to keep that sense of wonder gotten from complexity and precision, I recommend software development-low-level programming in particular.
absoloutley mate and optimising at the hardware level, so beautiful high level languages just take away the feeling of its a machine.
This may be the most fabulous thing I have seen on UA-cam all year!
Minecraft Redstone Engineers when the Copper Bulb is used to its fullest extent
I love it, analog and digital. It seems like it’s going to have come back in certain situations.
This is amazing especially seeing the program loading into ram and the lights indicating the occupied memory spaces. Very cool.
Those RAM modules look really awesome! any chance of releasing the schematics?
Yes, the schematics are available.
@@davidwarren2597 Where?
Those blinkenlight arrays are really the icing on the cake!
Fallout would have computers like these, that like *ASSUMING THE POSITION* at the same time
This is literally something I've wanted to do my whole life. Make a computer out of relays. That's awesome.
i have literally no idea what I just watched, I just know it's amazing and quite frankly beautiful
this is art.
an absolutely beautiful piece of work.
This is the only computer that will ever know why kids like the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
Now that's how a computer is supposed to look when it's doing math.
Just love the sound of physical bits!
Wonderful, in 1988 I learned FORTRAN in college of electronic engineering.
Obviously it doesn't have much purpose. Relay logic consumes a lot of power, is large, hard to manufacture, and very slow, but it is SO COOL HEARING IT WORK.
woaaa, what a beauty! The sensual experience (noise and visuals) is quite the thing! Thank you for showing such an amazing piece of engineering!
Incredible work, aesthetically satisfying sound and lights and it actually does something too. I think I see either the address register or the program counter.
seams that flopptron has a worthy opponent
This is not only functional and a design masterpiece itself no.... It is beautiful to watch and I have problems to shut my mouth when I take a look at this....
The one thing I care, the lights look pretty.
The full Doctor Evil at the start with the minion in your lap.
Rhytmetic shift left in assembly . . .wow; and it makes total sense and we've come along way from it.
Holy shit.
idk wtf this is but you are my spirit animal. godspeed.
Now that is one beautiful computer you have sir, and same for your doggo..
That is so interesting. I studied computer science in the 1980s here in Germany. And I still love old computers!
I am both amused and impressed! It sounds like an old telephone switching office. I tried building something like yours when I was a kid in the 70's but I don't think it ever worked.
I was introduced with computer when I was around 11 years old
It was an 8088 PC with green screen . I was Amazed ..... And this film makes me Amazed more 😊
I like the sound. Great computer.
That noise reminds me of every middle school and high school class where there was always at least 4 kids at the back of the class tapping beats on the desk with their pencils before the teacher arrived
Any plans for a kit of this? this is.. pure art. I'd love to build one
I need to do a new version first with a better interconnection scheme.
The current scheme grew organically and is…..poor.
Would you understand what you're building??
@@megamanguyWouldst you ?
@@megamanguyMany people would like to build such machines in order to gain a better understanding. Learn as you go and have fun!
@@megamanguy yeah, would YOU understand what you're building?
Star Trek TOS just called. The Enterprise wants it's computer back.
Dude is halfway to the moon.
Good to see that Doc and Sprocket are still around.
We need more relay computers in the world, they sound incredible
I'm most amazed you have no problem touching it after having your staticky dog in your lap with synthetic fabrics on. A solid state computer would never survive that repeatedly. I know it's not a huge issue. I've shocked ICs (74HC173 D latches) and LEDs with a small van de graff generator right on the data pins and they still worked fine after.
I still feel the need to touch a ground source before working if I just put on a sweater or touched a cat.
It's good to see somebody keep the old knowledge alive. A tree without roots won't stand up to the storm.
Damn. That things spits out some wicked beats. And the blinken lights are ace too!
did you... did you implement RAM IN RELAYS! absolute mad man.
okay, that's awesome-- the visualization on the memory as well
Nice! It's what we all want from a nice big fully functional relay computer... the rhythm!!!! :)
I'd love to listen to the full 9 minutes!!
Those are some cool math rock rythms
It looks like it’s mounted to a bi-fold door.
I thought, whenever I see old doors laying around I also naturally think, “this would make a perfect computer mount”!
This could be an excellent tool to help people understand the basics of how a computer works.
Could be an interesting tool for education if you released plans for it.
You can do it with transistors. This is ridiculous.
Z80 is used for this.
And that's where we get the terms "Flops" - from the sound the relays used to make 😀
Man, this is amazing to see! I love the clattering sound and the blinking lights.
I actually had this idea myself a long time ago, but never came around to actually implement it.
when each small relay costs $3... and the big ones $8 with the mounting socket.. yeah id think about doing something else
Silent and swift.
Sounds like a nice short disco.
Really impressed, no jokes.
I wanna see the ladder logic on this bad boy. This is cool as hell
That was so f****** satisfying to watch.
*Approving Adeptus Mechanicum noises*
I'm a greybeard, and that qualifies me to say ... that's actually pretty cool. 8)
when the relay computer drops a sick beat
came for the relay computer stayed for the dog
This is beyond cool! And it sounds similar to the early Star Trek computers 😊
Sheer beauty, every school should have one of these!
That is a beautiful piece of work. Electric Poetry.
Dafuq im even watching?! I love those klicks and klacks...
I love the smirk at the end
It may be one of the less useful things I'd own, but by golly I WANT ONE!
I get it. I always imagined building a programmable computer from tiny plastic tubes and valves that would run on water pressure. Every electric component can be simulated with hydraulic mechanisms.
how would you simulate a transistor
US military researched pneumatic logic gates as part of some guidance system for intercontinental missiles that would be unaffected by electromagnetic pulses. They were assembled from layers of glass with channels cut into them, made by Corning. Not sure if successful or not, or whether they just found better ways to shield electronics.
@@XenonJohnD - Sounds like fun😄
crazy. This is GOAT stuff right there. love it.
"Multiple-hertz technology!"
that's SOOO cool I wish I had projects that exciting when I took Electrical Engineering
Only 90 years late. This is fantastic!
Love how the RAM is fully visual on this one XD
Love the RAM loading part! beautiful!
The dog is amazed by the computer's operation.
Nine minutes for a shift left! Epic!
It may take 9 minutes to do the shift left, but that's 9 minutes of techno music right there!
I have no idea what im looking at. To me it could be a drum machine and sequencer or a computer of sorts. Very cool!
Mind if I sample these sounds for percussion to use in a progressive house, off the boundries of human cogniton, robot computer communications remix?
that is so awesome, i want the full 9 minutes please... and also schematics
I LOVE THIS
cheers and beers from finland
73, oh8xat
So, that's why the Nostromo's computer was so loud.
Nice modular synth!
Mind if I borrow the 'start program' sequence for a prog metal riff? XD
this is the coolest computer I've ever seen!
Such a retro-futuristic setup! Great job!
Poor doggo, just trying to chill
Wow. It's absolutely insane. An incredible project
"it takes 9 minutes to do a full aritmethic shift left *smiles* " lol