Quandrix Upgrades 1. Crafty Cutpurse a. Esika's Chariot $0.50 2. Arashi, the Sky Asunder a. Curious Herd $0.50 3. Forgotten Ancient a. Arasta of the Endless Web $0.50 4. Plaxcaster Frogling a. Avenger of Zendikar $5 5. Kaseto, Orochi Archmage a. Giant Adephage $0.50 6. Managorger Hydra a. Sylvan Offering $2 7. Nissa's Expedition a. Tendershoot Dryad $5 8. Golden Ratio a. Urban Evolution $0.50 9. Primal Empathy a. End-Raze Forerunners $0.50 10. Quandrix Campus a. Alchemist's Refuge $4.50 Throne of the God Pharoah $7 Helm of the Host $15 Parallel Lives $49
Crafty Cutpurse is gonna be a great CEDH card. It stops Hullbreacher, Dockside, Tithe and every other treasure token generator that is basically in every cEDH deck. Sure it's mostly a dead card until something is played but stealing all of the treasure tokens that would be created from a Hullbreacher is absolutely disgusting! Someone plays Wheel of Fortune, then Hullbreacher is put on the stack to steal those draws, and you respond with Cutpurse to screw over the person with the Breacher. I love it
Thanks for this. I’m new to MTG and this is my first deck. Interestingly, a lot of the cards you have replaced are the ones I’ve struggled with. They’re too condition dependent to be useful where the ones you’ve swapped in seem to have a more immediate effect.
Avenger of Zendikar opens up some super nutty things if both your commander and Esix, Fractal Bloom are on the battlefield. I’ll try and lay it out as best I can on mobile. Main phase, with an arbitrary amount of lands (let’s say for this example it’s 10- that’s pretty easy to do especially with simic’s ramp) on the battlefield. You drop AoZ, creating ten plants. Esix triggers and you have each of those plants enter as copies of the original Avenger for a total of 11 Avengers on the battlefield. Adrix and Nev then triggers, giving you a grand total of 21 Avengers on the battlefield. Each of the 20 new Avengers produces 10 plant tokens. Adrix and Nev trigger again, bumping the total numbers up to 400 plant tokens and 21 Avenger of Zendikars. Already nonsense-and then you drop your land for turn. This triggers 21 separate instances of Avenger of Zendikar’s landfall ability. Congratulations, enjoy your instant board state of 400 21/22 plant tokens. Disgusting!
I built mine token heavy/mana ramp. Only singles I've ever bought were for this deck. (3) Body of research. Sorcery for 3 forest 3 Island casting cost. Creates a token blue/green fractal with +1+1 counters equal to the cards in your library. Along with a lot more spice for card draw, extra land drops, equip for trample, and copy tokens.
The thing I like about crafty cutpurse is to abuse card such as Rampage of the clans and creature such as amphin mutineer / Terastodon. It also negates the downside of Demonstrate for Replication technique. Sure needs more build around, but I could see it fit nicely in there with a few tweak. Also, if landfall is a big part of your meta, a well timed crafty cutpurse can steal a lot of token (and even double those token if your commander is on the battlefield).
So, two crazy things: I just ordered Parallel Lives through a local games store online. It only cost me $25 Canadian... Which would probably be like $17 American or something 🤯 I never would have checked it out if you hadn't mentioned the price value, so thanks for the heads up haha. And secondly, I built my Ranar deck around a lot of the suggestions you made in your video, and it absolutely creamed my friends slivers deck, and my other friends Elenda deck, so thanks for that too 😜 It's the first deck I put the effort into upgrading. Now I'm definitely doing a lot of this for the Twincasters, as well as throwing Koma in too
Luna that's awesome to hear! Thanks for sharing, always nice to hear when something I worked on pays off for someone else 😀 Has Ranar been pretty consistently winning?
@@JakeandJoelareMagic I've played Ranar three times so far, and he's won all three games. The last two were after I finished getting all the upgrades I wanted, and I don't know if I just got lucky, but Cathars Crusade proccing on the amount of times I was exilling per turn, and creating 1/1 spirits was absolutely insane, plus I had Anointed Procession going. I had so much card draw, my hand was always overflowing (thankfully I had no maximum hand), not to mention the entire separate hand in Foretell. Getting free foretells from Ranar, cheap foretells from cosmos charger, and Sage of the Beyond too, it was just madness haha. There was always something hidden away in Foretell to react to whatever they tried to do. I felt bad ahah
If you put helm of the host on the commander, you go from 1 to 3 to 11 to 2059 to 2059+2^2059, a number so massive google calculator says that it is infinity. That takes four turns. Turn five offers so many tokens that the turn before seems like nothing by comparison, and of course trying to represent such a number would require more tokens than there is matter on earth.
Upon further searching, the total number of your commander by turn 4 is 66,185,228,434,044,942,951,864,067,458,396,061,614,989,522,267,577,311,297,802,947,435,570,493,724,401,440,549,267,868,490,798,926,773,634,494,383,968,047,143,923,956,857,140,205,406,402,740,536,087,446,083,831,052,036,848,232,439,995,904,404,992,798,007,514,718,326,043,410,570,379,830,870,463,780,085,260,619,444,417,205,199,197,123,751,210,704,970,352,727,833,755,425,876,102,776,028,267,313,405,809,429,548,880,554,782,040,765,277,562,828,362,884,238,325,465,448,520,348,307,574,943,345,990,309,941,642,666,926,723,379,729,598,185,834,735,054,732,500,415,409,883,868,361,423,159,913,770,812,218,772,711,901,772,249,553,153,402,287,759,789,517,121,744,336,755,350,465,901,655,205,184,917,370,974,202,405,586,941,211,065,395,540,765,567,663,193,297,173,367,254,230,313,612,244,182,941,999,500,402,388,195,450,053,080,385,547. By comparison, earth has approximately 133,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms in it.
Double major is a must in this deck, as it lets you double Adrix and Nev for two mana more when you play them. Then, the copy is non-legendary, so you can copy the copy for crazy amounts of tokens.
Golden ratio is a pretty good card in the simic counter deck where u can manipulate the power of your creatures by moving counters around. It does not synergize well with tokens though since token creating effects create same power tokens (most of the time that is). I would include Awakening Zone and From Beyond that make eldrazi tokens. They provide some resiliency to board wipes and the tokens can be sacced for mana as well. I don't think they are too expensive either. Edit: Sweeper protection is also necessary in a deck that is trying to go this wide.
I'm super surprised that nobody has put koma into the deck yet the ability to get out 2 3/3 on everyone's turn even if just for one go around would be amazing.
Arashi, the sky asunder, a spirit... in the shape of a storm cloud. Yeah, let's not give this flying. (I know, I know, the color pie. But a non-flying storm cloud dude!)
One of the cards I picked up for the deck is Supplant Form. For 4UU, we bounce the best creature on board and make a token copy of it at instant speed. Is it the best card for the deck? Maybe not, but it does have that promo Fate Reforged game day art 👌
Quandrix Upgrades
1. Crafty Cutpurse
a. Esika's Chariot $0.50
2. Arashi, the Sky Asunder
a. Curious Herd $0.50
3. Forgotten Ancient
a. Arasta of the Endless Web $0.50
4. Plaxcaster Frogling
a. Avenger of Zendikar $5
5. Kaseto, Orochi Archmage
a. Giant Adephage $0.50
6. Managorger Hydra
a. Sylvan Offering $2
7. Nissa's Expedition
a. Tendershoot Dryad $5
8. Golden Ratio
a. Urban Evolution $0.50
9. Primal Empathy
a. End-Raze Forerunners $0.50
10. Quandrix Campus
a. Alchemist's Refuge $4.50
Throne of the God Pharoah $7
Helm of the Host $15
Parallel Lives $49
Crafty Cutpurse is gonna be a great CEDH card. It stops Hullbreacher, Dockside, Tithe and every other treasure token generator that is basically in every cEDH deck. Sure it's mostly a dead card until something is played but stealing all of the treasure tokens that would be created from a Hullbreacher is absolutely disgusting! Someone plays Wheel of Fortune, then Hullbreacher is put on the stack to steal those draws, and you respond with Cutpurse to screw over the person with the Breacher. I love it
@@kingginger3335 fr this is a how to token generate instead of win. Simic ascendancy, koma;. Livens up all the cards he called dead
Another good one is body of research. Can get 2- +50/+50 token out easily in commander for 6 mana if twincaster is in play
7 months later still helping others! Thank you
Thanks for this. I’m new to MTG and this is my first deck. Interestingly, a lot of the cards you have replaced are the ones I’ve struggled with. They’re too condition dependent to be useful where the ones you’ve swapped in seem to have a more immediate effect.
Same here! New to mtg and it’s also my first deck.
Avenger of Zendikar opens up some super nutty things if both your commander and Esix, Fractal Bloom are on the battlefield. I’ll try and lay it out as best I can on mobile.
Main phase, with an arbitrary amount of lands (let’s say for this example it’s 10- that’s pretty easy to do especially with simic’s ramp) on the battlefield.
You drop AoZ, creating ten plants. Esix triggers and you have each of those plants enter as copies of the original Avenger for a total of 11 Avengers on the battlefield. Adrix and Nev then triggers, giving you a grand total of 21 Avengers on the battlefield.
Each of the 20 new Avengers produces 10 plant tokens. Adrix and Nev trigger again, bumping the total numbers up to 400 plant tokens and 21 Avenger of Zendikars.
Already nonsense-and then you drop your land for turn.
This triggers 21 separate instances of Avenger of Zendikar’s landfall ability.
Congratulations, enjoy your instant board state of 400 21/22 plant tokens.
Disgusting!
Great video! This is the content I have been searching for on this deck.
I built mine token heavy/mana ramp. Only singles I've ever bought were for this deck. (3) Body of research. Sorcery for 3 forest 3 Island casting cost. Creates a token blue/green fractal with +1+1 counters equal to the cards in your library. Along with a lot more spice for card draw, extra land drops, equip for trample, and copy tokens.
I was thinking of retooling the deck to go a bit heavier in the direction of fractals and +1/+1 counters with Kianne/Imbraham at the helm.
For that you may want to helm it with Quandrix himself.
Crafty Cutpurse in my playgroup meta against Dockside Extortionist, Smothering Tithe, Hullbreacher, or Kikki-Jikki Combos is actually pretty good.
That's completely fair. It's definitely a meta-call kind of play
The thing I like about crafty cutpurse is to abuse card such as Rampage of the clans and creature such as amphin mutineer / Terastodon. It also negates the downside of Demonstrate for Replication technique. Sure needs more build around, but I could see it fit nicely in there with a few tweak. Also, if landfall is a big part of your meta, a well timed crafty cutpurse can steal a lot of token (and even double those token if your commander is on the battlefield).
So, two crazy things:
I just ordered Parallel Lives through a local games store online. It only cost me $25 Canadian... Which would probably be like $17 American or something 🤯 I never would have checked it out if you hadn't mentioned the price value, so thanks for the heads up haha.
And secondly, I built my Ranar deck around a lot of the suggestions you made in your video, and it absolutely creamed my friends slivers deck, and my other friends Elenda deck, so thanks for that too 😜 It's the first deck I put the effort into upgrading. Now I'm definitely doing a lot of this for the Twincasters, as well as throwing Koma in too
Luna that's awesome to hear! Thanks for sharing, always nice to hear when something I worked on pays off for someone else 😀
Has Ranar been pretty consistently winning?
@@JakeandJoelareMagic I've played Ranar three times so far, and he's won all three games. The last two were after I finished getting all the upgrades I wanted, and I don't know if I just got lucky, but Cathars Crusade proccing on the amount of times I was exilling per turn, and creating 1/1 spirits was absolutely insane, plus I had Anointed Procession going. I had so much card draw, my hand was always overflowing (thankfully I had no maximum hand), not to mention the entire separate hand in Foretell. Getting free foretells from Ranar, cheap foretells from cosmos charger, and Sage of the Beyond too, it was just madness haha. There was always something hidden away in Foretell to react to whatever they tried to do. I felt bad ahah
If you put helm of the host on the commander, you go from 1 to 3 to 11 to 2059 to 2059+2^2059, a number so massive google calculator says that it is infinity.
That takes four turns. Turn five offers so many tokens that the turn before seems like nothing by comparison, and of course trying to represent such a number would require more tokens than there is matter on earth.
Upon further searching, the total number of your commander by turn 4 is
66,185,228,434,044,942,951,864,067,458,396,061,614,989,522,267,577,311,297,802,947,435,570,493,724,401,440,549,267,868,490,798,926,773,634,494,383,968,047,143,923,956,857,140,205,406,402,740,536,087,446,083,831,052,036,848,232,439,995,904,404,992,798,007,514,718,326,043,410,570,379,830,870,463,780,085,260,619,444,417,205,199,197,123,751,210,704,970,352,727,833,755,425,876,102,776,028,267,313,405,809,429,548,880,554,782,040,765,277,562,828,362,884,238,325,465,448,520,348,307,574,943,345,990,309,941,642,666,926,723,379,729,598,185,834,735,054,732,500,415,409,883,868,361,423,159,913,770,812,218,772,711,901,772,249,553,153,402,287,759,789,517,121,744,336,755,350,465,901,655,205,184,917,370,974,202,405,586,941,211,065,395,540,765,567,663,193,297,173,367,254,230,313,612,244,182,941,999,500,402,388,195,450,053,080,385,547.
By comparison, earth has approximately
133,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms in it.
Double major is a must in this deck, as it lets you double Adrix and Nev for two mana more when you play them. Then, the copy is non-legendary, so you can copy the copy for crazy amounts of tokens.
Finally a deck to put my Koma Cosmos Serpent in!
😱😱😱😱😱🌊🤯
Tender shoot dyad + maskwood and Koma = game over
What card did you replace him with
@@cfireball15 you can swap out over simplify.
Yeah, over simplify is good but it gets rid of your commander so you won’t get two of the tokens which makes it kinda meh in this deck.
Golden ratio is a pretty good card in the simic counter deck where u can manipulate the power of your creatures by moving counters around. It does not synergize well with tokens though since token creating effects create same power tokens (most of the time that is). I would include Awakening Zone and From Beyond that make eldrazi tokens. They provide some resiliency to board wipes and the tokens can be sacced for mana as well. I don't think they are too expensive either.
Edit: Sweeper protection is also necessary in a deck that is trying to go this wide.
Let's do a non budget list. Like I plan on spending about $300 on upgrading this deck
I'm super surprised that nobody has put koma into the deck yet the ability to get out 2 3/3 on everyone's turn even if just for one go around would be amazing.
and yes I know it would be alot of the budget I think it's around like 10-12 dollars but it would certainly be fun :)
and yes I know it would be alot of the budget I think it's around like 10-12 dollars but it would certainly be fun :)
Arashi, the sky asunder, a spirit... in the shape of a storm cloud. Yeah, let's not give this flying. (I know, I know, the color pie. But a non-flying storm cloud dude!)
I’d love to see a 50 or 100 or 200 or unlimited upgrade. Can someone do that on discord?
Is this the one you want to build most?
Yes it is
I would love to se more upgrades with bigger budget as Kyle asked for
Easy just run doubling season parallel lives rhystic study and Koma lol
One of the cards I picked up for the deck is Supplant Form. For 4UU, we bounce the best creature on board and make a token copy of it at instant speed. Is it the best card for the deck? Maybe not, but it does have that promo Fate Reforged game day art 👌
Crafty catpurse X sylvan offering. Use like 10 mana for the X and get 4 10/10 trees and 40 1/1 elf's
Me adding Ugin the ineffable (got from challender deck) and Ugin the spirit dragon.(lucky booster)
Adrix + Essix + 10 lands & Play Avenger of Zendikar! the Plant tokens enter as 10 more copies of Avenger! then u get 100 plants and 10 avengers! YAY!!
Where are you getting your cards for these builds I'm looking through tcg player and some of them damaged costs more then what you are listing off
Thunderfoot baloth? phyrexian processor? tempt with reflections?.
Endless swarms win con!!!
Ok so you dont want bigger fractals?
Not really if we're going wide. I'd rather have more tokens that all get +1 or +2 power from an anthem
I wonder who the queen of vesuva is? anyone know?
Ohh Joel you evil 👿 evil 👿 man 🧙♂️
Just throw simic ascendancy in for a tapped land.
Spawnwrithe is the same as Giant Adaphage except cheaper
True, but a 2/2 vs a 7/7
That's the biggest difference
Awakening zone?
Its budget and it will generate a ton of colourless mana .
Could be good!
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