I really don’t understand why they chose to make the 50 round mag so bad. Meanwhile the MP7 is running around with 60 rounds with -4% movement and a negligible ADS loss.
The fact that it’s been barely a day and a half and we already have a gun guide for one of the new guns just shows how dedicated Ace is with his content creation :) Thank you for this!
*Base Stats* 0:21 Damage + Multipliers 1:00 Rate of Fire + Time to Kill 1:44 Ranges (Base, Suppressed [NOT INCLUDING NIGHTSHADE!], and HC) 2:49 Hipfire 3:01 Idle Sway 3:09 Recoil 3:36 Handling (ADS, Sprintout) 3:52 Ammo Capacity + Reload Speed 4:33 Mobility (Movement + ADS Strafe Speed) *Unique Attachments* 4:46 FTAC 225mm Dominator Barrel 5:20 FSS Revolution Barrel 5:58 ISO 140mm CQB Barrel 6:40 FSS Nightshade Barrel 7:51 30 Round Mags 8:27 50 Round Drums *Loadouts* 9:15 Generic SMG 10:51 Mid-Ranged Versatility 11:44 Conclusion *PERSONAL NOTES* Just looking at the ISO’s range, I suspect MW wanted to make a fast-firing SMG mixed with an AR to give it a bit more range (especially with the Nightshade Barrel); something like a BO2 Peacekeeper. The problem is that the ISO’s first shot recoil pretty much ruins its ranged potential, so you’ve got a SMG that punishes you for not hitting center mass and up and isn’t really viable at a distance. If you want CQC power, why not pack a MP7, and if you’d rather be better at a distance, why not take the M13?
It feels more like view-kick to me. The gun flops up and down but doesn't pull that hard, in my opinion. I haven't played COD in a while and my wife wanted me to try it out. It was okay, hit marker machine from what I can tell
I don't think it's bad gun by any means I've got gold on almost every SMG so this one coming out ihave to get gold on it so I've grinded it a lot long shot mounting etc and I don't think it's the worst gun it's not grey or anything to write home about but it's not awful it just depends on what you're after insurance slightly worse but I really think at least for me me that's negligible
I feel that this would actually be a decent weapon if they added a 10 mm conversion (or some conversion that takes away the limb penalties, or increases the range by about 25%. That combined with the nightshade barrel could give it a great place in the game, in my opinion. The way I see it, they won’t change the base fire rate or damage, so perhaps adding a conversion kit can increase its effectiveness (like in the case of the AK, MP5, or Uzi). If it’s going to be comparable to the P90, then perhaps make it unique by swapping ttk for more range
The range is already good. If more is increased then it would take the place of the striker 45 as the smg with the most range. The point of this gun is to be a fast firing gun but with good range. But because it tries to be good at multiple things it becomes not very good. The vlk rougue shotgun is a example of this. It tries to be the middle ground between the r9-0 and the origin.
Lol 10% movement speed decrease this has to be a bug Edit: The base gun has 20 rounds with the 30 round extended magazine a 1.5% movement speed decrease is added witch would mean that the 50 round extended magazine should only give 4.5% movement speed decrease not a 10%
What's stopping people from just using mp5 or mp7? I think IW has a thing with just slapping as much drum mags into guns as they can and make using it such a hassle. The 60 round mag for mp7 only has a 4% ms decrease(based on ace's vid a long time ago). I don't understand why they would release a gun like this and make it's stats sub par.
I thought of an attachment that would make this gun just as good as the top performing smgs: add an underbarrel attachment that lets you attach an mp5 to the bottom of the gun
How to use it v3 step one: pick up the uzi Step 2: get th AE rounds Step 3: stretch it's range Step 4:destroy the the people who uses the iso There you go
xNoExcuses- I keep finding some no stock M4s and MP5s. We gotta get a nerf on long barrels because that’s pretty much why no stock feels like it has no recoil
Below average stats, with big punishments for the "special" attachments and bullet capacity that is unusable in Warzone. Why did they even add this gun? :P
sheldon drewett right? Isn’t this the new smg that the us army adopted. I always thought they made the m4 and mp5 so op because they have seen so much action in real life. Seems kinda weird they would make the apc9 counterpart so crappy
No player feedback for a gun they've kept in the devbox. Honestly, it seems pointless releasing this when the Fennec/Vector already is in the game. They should max out the movement speed (I mean, look at the size of it) and maybe give it a slight damage buff so that it can three hit to upper torso within 10-15m
Honestly they should allow akimbo for this gun. Statistically it's an MP7 with more kick and half the ammo capacity, so they might as well make it the most fun SMG while they're at it.
How the ISO stats were made: IW: the pre buff M13 was trash, so adding a 4 shot kill range and better mobility would make it better. To balance that out, we just hurt the recoil, lower the mag capacity, hinder the mobility of extended mags attached, and make it the slowest killing smg in the game. Done. Balanced
You're trashing this gun for no reason. It has great recoil and I like the iron sights, I consistently get 40m+ kills with this gun and it's pretty damn nice. You just don't know how to play lol.
10% lmfaoooo I saw the gun and was slightly happy cause it looked like my style: mobile but can have range with recoil control; and then I saw the mag movement penalty hahaha
I feel like IW is using this gun to test balance for their next CoD game they're gonna develop and release in 2-3 years time, because the current MW meta is ext. mags with no stock makes it really a big meme on the gunsmith etc
There’s something about this weapon, and I don’t know what it is because it sucks on paper, but I do really well with it. Like nearly 2.0 KD with it across ground war and regular multiplayer. It’s one of my favourites.
It’s basically just a matter of preference and play style. Some people love using the Kar98k but I’m hesitant to use it because of the slow rechamber speed. Especially when I have an extreme run-and-gun play style.
They should give the 30 round mag by default for this weapon, while scrapping the 20 round mag and alter it to a 40 round mag. Also it needs 20/80 reserve ammo. If you run something other than the M19 or Renetti, you'll probably be out of ammo at 6 kills into a streak.
@Big Prick I dont think its absolutely terrible, just sub par and it needs a bit of love. A 20rnd mag with such a shitty TTK and the 50rnd mag making it an LMG aswell. This needs to be better balanced
if anyone is curious, the current ISO after its buff has a base 4 shot kill range of 17m, revolution barrel will increase it to 23.5m and 24.4m for the Nightshade barrel(this one is a lil disappointing cause it's not a 45% increase like what Ace has stated here)
This pretty much reminds me of the Striker. You can use it, you can be good with it, but honestly it needs some love to become viable in comparison to other guns.
Hey man, I just want to thank you for all of your amazing in great depth and detail videos about call of duty. Honestly Im done playing this one for this year, but while I was playing it you taught me so much on how to set up my classes the best and I used a ton of your data to make my classes the best for my playstyle. Thank you a lot for your dedication and research, you've been a massive help during this years COD. Thank you again man.
i fail to see the redeeming qualities of this gun. i feel like whatever job it's trying to do in the range department is beat out by guns like the striker, and that gun doesn't even do its job well
This gun has such a comfortable spray pattern that i dont mind the downsides, to me it has been super reliable, and getting HS has been really nice... However no stock mp7 is too good, so idk.
I personally love this gun and I treat it like an assault rifle with 50 rounds and the corp combat holo sight with blue dot and just tear people up no matter what map. Plus using dead silence and the nightshade barrel makes sneaking up on people a breeze
I actually really like the ISO. I've temporarily swapped it in to my MP5 setup and My MP7 Shipment setup and I'm enjoying it. I love that Nighshade barrel. It surprises me how well it does as an Assault rifle, whilst still keeping some of the benefits of an SMG (depending on the other attachments). It's a win for me.
It would've been nice to see the recoil with those recommended classes, since there's now multiple attachments affecting it. I assume that first shot jump is severely mitigated with the nightshade and merc foregrip, but your visuals help so much more than just me testing it out in multi. Especially since the ISO isn't in the COD Modem Warfare Wiki app yet (my favorite place to do gun comparisons)
Ace I 100% agree with your opinion on this gun and where it stacks up with the competition. However it feels super fun to use which I think is why I’ll keep using it
Somehow I have been doing exceptionally well with it. Idk why, it feels good in my hands. Maybe it's the range it has that makes it feel like a small AR.
@@42ZaphodB42 I dunno, it seems a bit pointless when you can just no stock or skeleton stock an AR if you want that feel with a much better outcome? I just wish it was a more usable SMG or a different gun in general.
I don’t mind the first big jump because I generally find myself starting at the chest, I end up on the head without much adjustment because of the first bullet hop. Everything after is very controllable
IW just arent able to add a new SMG that breaks into the meta. The closest one was the Fennec. How can they say in the in-game description of this gun that it is designed to dominate close range fight if It literally sucks at it?
@@itzimperiumxvi2620 Exactly, its the best SMG since day one! I dont mind it being a strong SMG, or even the strongest, but whats the point of adding DLC guns if they just cant compete?
I maxed out my ISO last night, a great combo for attachments that I used was the Muzzle Break & Commando Foregrip. It helps with stabilisation a whole bunch
Based off of the B&T APC-9g, this version has a lower receiver meant to accept glock mags. It would've been cool if they had the option in the gunsmith to kit it like the regular APC-9 pro though, I like the look of the APC-9 with the base B&T lower
For me u deserve as much as people like teepee to be a host or caster for cod cdl people dont realise how important your contribute to public knowledge is
Time stamps spaced out so it’s easy to click 😂 (In progress): Damage - 0:22 Rate of fire - 1:00 Time to kill - 1:19 Range - 1:46 Hardcore range - 2:30 Hip fire - 2:49 Idle away - 3:01 Recoil - 3:09 Ads/sprintout speed - 3:37 Ammo - 3:52 Reload time - 4:17 Movement & strafe speed - 4:34 🔫 _Barrels_ 🔫 FTAC 225mm Dominator barrel - 4:57 FSS Revolution barrel - 5:21 ISO 140mm CQB barrel - 5:59
I just wanted to say I appreciate you bro like all the time you gotta take to make these videos that’s actually can help us get better at the game I know it ain’t easy. You’ve really made me a decent player in cod it just seems like you know what you talking bout and I just had to say thanks man keep doing what you doing
I would make the 30 round mag standard while the 20 round is an attachment to increase movement speed (like how they did the 10 round mags on the SKS). I think that would help the ISO a little. Would free up an attachment spot on most classes.
I have no idea why but I have such good luck with this gun. I feel like it kills faster than the MP7 even though it doesn't. When it's kitted it's definitely slower but I don't mind that. Clearly I'm one of the few though lol
Sheesh, Ace is putting in that work to get these stats out. I actually started playing Modern Warfare more because of you even though I still think the game is bad because I find it fun using attachments and stuff that are statistically the best and trying to make the best class possible
Try ISO collapsible, 50 rnd mags, FSS Nightfall, Stippled Grip Tape and GI mini reflex. Or as I call it The Hipfirer : Monolithic suppressor, 50rnd mags, 5mW, ISO collapsible and Stippled grip tape. Love this gun so much especially on shipment or shoot house
i dont really see the point of this gun either but what would the point of an intervention be? we already have 3 bolt actions (and a lever action) and another one coming mid season. like, if they added it it would just be a slightly different ax50 or hdr, which you could probably already achieve with existing attachments. idk why everyone gripes in the comments about lack of snipers in this game, there’s so many they created a new category to split them up a bit. the dmr category is just sniper rifles with faster stats/less damage and access to lower magnified sights. i just wish they would add more unique and interesting weapons in any category that feel different than any other weapons, eg an94, renetti burst, rytec, mk9 60 mag. the iso sucks because it’s stats are awful but also because it doesnt bring anything new to the game. the intervention would also probably bring nothing to the game. i think it would be cool as an ax50 blueprint tho for the people that like the look of it.
They keep adding SMGs and ARs. They really should just add more weapons in the other weapon groups. The intervention or the R700 would’ve helped the Sniper/Marksman category or they could also add a decent secondary or even a new shotgun. Nobody touches the shotguns so a good new shotgun would help shake up the AR/SMG meta.
Reuben... two LMGs, a sniper, two marksman rifles, one and a half new shotguns, a new pistol... but sure, nothing but ARs and SMGs. SMGs and ARs are meta IRL cause they are so darn good at what they do.
Mingue Kwak the r700 design predates the vietnam war and is based off the mauser (kar98) design. both designs have been modernized since, see the synthetic stock versions of the kar98, but are functionally extremely similar guns. i think the r700 usually fires a slightly weaker bullet too even. so i’m not sure what your point is. modernized mosin nagant rifles are pretty common in recent conflicts. but i really hope the r700 is interesting, maybe fits in the balance as something between kar98 speed and the ax50 damage. youre right that there isn’t much unique weapons but i’m just saying, there’s no need for another bolt action. in a month we’ll have 5 the cover the spectrum of fast but low damage/velocity mk 2 to slow but high damage/velocity hdr.
Caleb Bergthold The weapons you just mentioned just can’t compete with the meta They are not viable and if they were at some point, they surely have been nerfed to the ground by IW.
I use the nightshade, the 50 round drum, the ftac elite, and the collapsible. Mobility downsides are negated and you get all the range buffs with an aggressive mag size for taking on multiple opponents.
I love it, I have only used it in customs but I enjoy it, my class setup i have designed it for hip fire Iso smg, hip fire god - 'tommy gun of modern warfare ' Barrel: FSS Revolution Laser: 5mW Laser Stock: FTAC Vagrant Underbarrel: Merc Foregrip Ammunition: 50 Round Drums
They need to do something to it to make it worth the while. I’m still just using the MP 5, or 7. Even after the Fenec, and the ISO. I was hoping the ISO was gonna have a huge mobility buff because in real life outside of the MP7 it is the lightest of all SMG‘s currently in game at 5 pounds, and the MP7 weighing in at 4.2 pounds. MP5 6.8 pounds P90 5.6 pounds Uzi 9 pounds Vector 6 pound This weapon with a sleight buff to movement, and maybe some better recoil control could make it a flanking beast, but no. Guess I’ll have to keep using the MP5 with it‘s ungodly suppressor mod that just turns it into a monster sub that’ll eat any, and everyone’s soul with no deficit to movement even though the weight is the second highest of all smg‘s, and it’s also one of the oldest designs which doesn’t mean much except that the P90 really should perform better as well as the MP7 just because of their superior ammunition. Don’t become a gun nut. Because this shit will piss you off. I get it, it’s the MP5, but GAHWD DAUMN it’s not that good. I’ve shot the ISO in real life, and it’s way more manageable than the MP5. People forget how large the MP5 actually is.
Interestingly, this things stats could make for an interesting 'PDW' - a close-range SMG as part of an Overkill Loadout in Warzone. Nightshade Barrel, 50-Rounders, 5mW Laser, ISO Collapsible and Merc Foregrip could probably make for a deadly dedicated-hipfire close-range finisher. It's main drawback would be the huge ADS, but if you're never ADsing in the first place...
@@AshenOne742 They each have their advantages - MP5 has better damage per individual projectile but this has a bigger mag, reloads fast enough that it doesn't need Sleight of Hand, and has tighter hipfire.
Personally, I love this gun. I know the stats tell a different story, but I've been raking with this gun and already have it gold. It just feels so accurate and I can get the multiple headshots easily. Plus, I really like the ironsights so it makes it easier to pick attachments when I don't need a sight, although this gun with the VLK is a monster too.
For your second suggested class setup, i think it's better to use the stippled grip instead of slight of hand since the gun have already a fast reload to have more ADS speed since we are using the nightshade barrel
I love this gun. I use the no stock, nightshade barrel, 30/50 round mags, sleight of hand and a gi mini reflex. this thing isn’t bad at all with these attachments
May I have a reccomendation. When you are going to include gameplay along with two different loadouts, put clearly identifiable skins on them (like the red and blue tiger, but obviously those would require a bit more playtime with the gun, so whatever works), so that all throughout the video we can clearly know which loadout you are using for that clip to have a better feel for if that's the route we want to go with it. Just a thought! Love your videos, keep up the hard work!
I like this weapon, I can be very accurate with this SMG! I prefer this than the MP5! And with the nightshade barrel u can make it fast and with a lot of range!
I've been enjoying it, got it up to lv 46 and already had long shots completed, and most of the other camo categories almost done. May not be the best, but its definitely a worthy smg
My experience with the ISO has been pretty polarizing when seeing Ace's and Driftor's reviews on this gun. While it didn't feel like it was a lower tier gun, I can tell that it doesn't perform as well at closer ranges as much as it can in mid range or AR ranges. I think Driftor is right that this is more of a long range SMG like the UMP 45 because I was able to outperform against MP7's and even other AR's at its best range. This is my experience with the gun at least on mouse and keyboard, so I don't know how controllers fare with it.
The revolution barrel paired with the monolithic suppressor gives you a bit more range than the nightshade. At the cost of using an additional slot of course.
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I really don’t understand why they chose to make the 50 round mag so bad. Meanwhile the MP7 is running around with 60 rounds with -4% movement and a negligible ADS loss.
@@SmoothCruizer37 This thing is made by B&T, right? Thats an austrian company, not german. Same language, different country.
@@SmoothCruizer37 apc9 is a Swiss gun
And people say the MP7 isn't broken lol
To be fair, the mp7 uses much lighter ammunition
MP7 is German
The fact that it’s been barely a day and a half and we already have a gun guide for one of the new guns just shows how dedicated Ace is with his content creation :) Thank you for this!
hope he sees this bro
It’s seriously not as hard as you think.
People need to jump off his lap and stop copy/ pasting this comment everytime he posts.
dan sham x right ain’t that hard to grind a game during the day pendemic n upload a video on it
@@lllllll5990 He didn't have to grind at all, either. He just hops into a private match.
I thought for sure this was going to be the "Jack of all trades, master of none" smg, but it's actually just the "master of none" smg
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I mean from my "testing" it seems to be the master of hip fire
the jack of all trades smg in my opinion is the striker 45 its pretty meh but it can do a lot of things decently
@@christophermenard4466 MP7 can do everything well, great rof, good range, good magazine capacity, great hipfire, good ttk, good mobility.
@@youssefbenali4070 tru but the range dropoff is actually pretty short and it cant 3 shot kill
*Base Stats*
0:21 Damage + Multipliers
1:00 Rate of Fire + Time to Kill
1:44 Ranges (Base, Suppressed [NOT INCLUDING NIGHTSHADE!], and HC)
2:49 Hipfire
3:01 Idle Sway
3:09 Recoil
3:36 Handling (ADS, Sprintout)
3:52 Ammo Capacity + Reload Speed
4:33 Mobility (Movement + ADS Strafe Speed)
*Unique Attachments*
4:46 FTAC 225mm Dominator Barrel
5:20 FSS Revolution Barrel
5:58 ISO 140mm CQB Barrel
6:40 FSS Nightshade Barrel
7:51 30 Round Mags
8:27 50 Round Drums
*Loadouts*
9:15 Generic SMG
10:51 Mid-Ranged Versatility
11:44 Conclusion
*PERSONAL NOTES*
Just looking at the ISO’s range, I suspect MW wanted to make a fast-firing SMG mixed with an AR to give it a bit more range (especially with the Nightshade Barrel); something like a BO2 Peacekeeper. The problem is that the ISO’s first shot recoil pretty much ruins its ranged potential, so you’ve got a SMG that punishes you for not hitting center mass and up and isn’t really viable at a distance. If you want CQC power, why not pack a MP7, and if you’d rather be better at a distance, why not take the M13?
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The recoil after the first shot is social distancing at its finest
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It feels more like view-kick to me. The gun flops up and down but doesn't pull that hard, in my opinion. I haven't played COD in a while and my wife wanted me to try it out. It was okay, hit marker machine from what I can tell
You know the downsides are massive when ace's voice goes "now ALL of these upsides DO come..."
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That's because the other UA-camrs want to dominate people who are using this while using the fennec or mp5.
Let’s just say other YTers gotta eat and they gotta get clicks somehow aside from making good content (because hardly anybody does that)
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Most other youtubers seem to be saying this gun is pretty lousy. Because it is.
I love that ace already did a Gun guide for one of the new guns when I’m barely tier 4
I have not even been able to play the new season and this guy has a completely broken down a gun, mad respect for Ace that guy is insane
im still updating😂
I don't think it's bad gun by any means I've got gold on almost every SMG so this one coming out ihave to get gold on it so I've grinded it a lot long shot mounting etc and I don't think it's the worst gun it's not grey or anything to write home about but it's not awful it just depends on what you're after insurance slightly worse but I really think at least for me me that's negligible
I guess he just bought the battle pass tiers to unlock the new guns to be that fast.
I feel that this would actually be a decent weapon if they added a 10 mm conversion (or some conversion that takes away the limb penalties, or increases the range by about 25%. That combined with the nightshade barrel could give it a great place in the game, in my opinion. The way I see it, they won’t change the base fire rate or damage, so perhaps adding a conversion kit can increase its effectiveness (like in the case of the AK, MP5, or Uzi). If it’s going to be comparable to the P90, then perhaps make it unique by swapping ttk for more range
Maybe there will be a secret attachment coming out later like the Uzi .41 AE rounds cause I really hope they do...
Really just giving it anything to make it stand out would be nice. Rn it's just a generic fast firing smg that's worse than all the others.
I was actually surprised this didn't have an ammo conversion.
The range is already good. If more is increased then it would take the place of the striker 45 as the smg with the most range. The point of this gun is to be a fast firing gun but with good range. But because it tries to be good at multiple things it becomes not very good. The vlk rougue shotgun is a example of this. It tries to be the middle ground between the r9-0 and the origin.
There should be an apc45 conversion bc that's what there is in real life also the real rpm is 1080, cod ruined what should be the best smg in game.
Lol 10% movement speed decrease this has to be a bug Edit: The base gun has 20 rounds with the 30 round extended magazine a 1.5% movement speed decrease is added witch would mean that the 50 round extended magazine should only give 4.5% movement speed decrease not a 10%
Fr it should be like a 3% or maybe a 4% movement speed decrease
Lol ikr I laughed when I saw that. An smg with the movement of an lmg is never heard of
What's stopping people from just using mp5 or mp7? I think IW has a thing with just slapping as much drum mags into guns as they can and make using it such a hassle. The 60 round mag for mp7 only has a 4% ms decrease(based on ace's vid a long time ago). I don't understand why they would release a gun like this and make it's stats sub par.
Ak 75 round drum mag also has 9 or 10 % ms penalty which makes in unusable in warzone and nobody complains about that xD
Panda because it’s 75 rounds in a gun that shoots very slow, this gun shoots fast and has a 50 round mag that punishes it severely.
I thought of an attachment that would make this gun just as good as the top performing smgs: add an underbarrel attachment that lets you attach an mp5 to the bottom of the gun
movement speed tho, sad times
How to use the ISO:
Step 1: Pick a better gun. There is no step 2.
Hehe
How to use it v3 step one: pick up the uzi
Step 2: get th AE rounds
Step 3: stretch it's range
Step 4:destroy the the people who uses the iso
There you go
Boring
Use it as a machine pistol.
You’d be better off using literally any other SMG with overkill.
The developers sneezed when they were sliding the “decrease movement speed” bar for the 50 round magazine.
Ace: take the no-stock and the FTAC collapsible off of all your guns now.
Also ace: *uses FTAC collapsible attachment*
he said that at a very early stage after the not so big nerf. those make the gun shake a lot but didn't really get a nerf to recoil
xNoExcuses- I keep finding some no stock M4s and MP5s. We gotta get a nerf on long barrels because that’s pretty much why no stock feels like it has no recoil
@@autokid311 no it doesn't
Below average stats, with big punishments for the "special" attachments and bullet capacity that is unusable in Warzone. Why did they even add this gun? :P
And honestly did we really need another smg we already got one last season I would rather have a new sniper or marksman rifle
Honestly, there is no reason to use it whatsoever
It will probably take sometime to be decent. Just like the vlk rogue.
Well it's one of the best in real life so thank call of duty for ruining it
sheldon drewett right? Isn’t this the new smg that the us army adopted. I always thought they made the m4 and mp5 so op because they have seen so much action in real life. Seems kinda weird they would make the apc9 counterpart so crappy
So this thing is just as bad as the launch day Uzi, huh...
Yes so hopefully they buff it or add a ammo conversion to it
I love this thing this thing is a Lazer beam kit it with recoil controll and the last barrel you unlock it's like a mp7 with less recoil
Shit kills from another time zone it's like an assault rifle
@@Williplier but with less range, bullet velocity, less bullet in the magzine, less accuracy and less mobility if you put the 50 round mag
@Doge Gaming shreds a third part of all other smgs
I’m guessing the conversation about adding new guns for this season went something like “What if we made a p90, but gave it a 20 round mag”
“What if we nerf the piss out of the p90, cut it’s magazine in half, and then for shits and giggles, take away 5 more?”
will shaffran this is a perfect description
How did they hold onto the gun since release and still release it in this state?
No player feedback for a gun they've kept in the devbox. Honestly, it seems pointless releasing this when the Fennec/Vector already is in the game. They should max out the movement speed (I mean, look at the size of it) and maybe give it a slight damage buff so that it can three hit to upper torso within 10-15m
They should have given it the fastest ads or something
Honestly they should allow akimbo for this gun. Statistically it's an MP7 with more kick and half the ammo capacity, so they might as well make it the most fun SMG while they're at it.
Already damn the work ethic is crazy
How the ISO stats were made:
IW: the pre buff M13 was trash, so adding a 4 shot kill range and better mobility would make it better. To balance that out, we just hurt the recoil, lower the mag capacity, hinder the mobility of extended mags attached, and make it the slowest killing smg in the game. Done. Balanced
You're trashing this gun for no reason. It has great recoil and I like the iron sights, I consistently get 40m+ kills with this gun and it's pretty damn nice. You just don't know how to play lol.
@@roberrandrei8655 Cool. Its still garbage tho.
@@satin1717 if you're too bad to do good with it doesn't mean it's garbage 😂
@@roberrandrei8655 I know this is late but I said stats not how it felt to play with it
Why is this the only gun that is severely punished for an extended mag?
Aug with the 60 round 556 ammo is about the same. But it's a different ammo type, so it is understendable.
10% lmfaoooo I saw the gun and was slightly happy cause it looked like my style: mobile but can have range with recoil control; and then I saw the mag movement penalty hahaha
Wow. The new SMG with all its best attachments is worse than a P90 with no attachments.
I feel like IW is using this gun to test balance for their next CoD game they're gonna develop and release in 2-3 years time, because the current MW meta is ext. mags with no stock makes it really a big meme on the gunsmith etc
This means you should use the 30 round mags,but i mean the p90 exists sooo...
I litterally just finished watching your first impressions of this gun
Everyone has also done that
@@D3TURA I meant his other vid...
Lol when he said it was garbage?
What to do when you run out ammo and the enemy is not dead:
●Pull out your pistol and finish them off
ISO:"laughs in instant reload
so u wanna finish him off?? 😏
Meanwhile ur enemy is laughing off the 15 hitmarkers u just gave them and they didnt die.
Pull out the swords
There’s something about this weapon, and I don’t know what it is because it sucks on paper, but I do really well with it. Like nearly 2.0 KD with it across ground war and regular multiplayer. It’s one of my favourites.
same here. it feels really good for some weird reason
It’s basically just a matter of preference and play style. Some people love using the Kar98k but I’m hesitant to use it because of the slow rechamber speed. Especially when I have an extreme run-and-gun play style.
Slice The Cheese gotta practice and master reload canceling my friend. Pain in the ass, but can be the difference of a win/lose
Yo same!! I don't know what it is because the gun should suck but I consistently rack up double the kills of the next best player in my lobby.
Its because its hit registration is pretty good. It doesnt feel awful to use like many other guns.
Its looks and the stats sounds like it's the scar of the SMGs
It honestly looks like a baby SCAR if you add either of the longer barrels.
scar is the best gun in HC imo :) and yeah this gun looks good with the long barrel attached
Alan Yesilipek ak is the best hc gun for sure
Wish it hit as hard as the scar. This gun is a fucking hitmarker machine.
But in MP the scar isn’t even that bad. Watch ImMarksman use it in SnD.
This gun needs a buff IMO
They should give the 30 round mag by default for this weapon, while scrapping the 20 round mag and alter it to a 40 round mag. Also it needs 20/80 reserve ammo. If you run something other than the M19 or Renetti, you'll probably be out of ammo at 6 kills into a streak.
@Big Prick I dont think its absolutely terrible, just sub par and it needs a bit of love. A 20rnd mag with such a shitty TTK and the 50rnd mag making it an LMG aswell. This needs to be better balanced
@@dillonc7955 I also think the 50rnd mag's movement speeds needs a serious buff!!
if anyone is curious, the current ISO after its buff has a base 4 shot kill range of 17m, revolution barrel will increase it to 23.5m and 24.4m for the Nightshade barrel(this one is a lil disappointing cause it's not a 45% increase like what Ace has stated here)
This pretty much reminds me of the Striker. You can use it, you can be good with it, but honestly it needs some love to become viable in comparison to other guns.
Hey man, I just want to thank you for all of your amazing in great depth and detail videos about call of duty. Honestly Im done playing this one for this year, but while I was playing it you taught me so much on how to set up my classes the best and I used a ton of your data to make my classes the best for my playstyle. Thank you a lot for your dedication and research, you've been a massive help during this years COD. Thank you again man.
i fail to see the redeeming qualities of this gun. i feel like whatever job it's trying to do in the range department is beat out by guns like the striker, and that gun doesn't even do its job well
It would've been nice if this gun exclusively allowed akimbo. I know akimbo won't fix this gun's issues, but it would compliment its great hipfire.
@@dillonc7955 oh it totally would
Dillon C I thought the same thing. Making it the only akimbo capable smg would give it some kind of niche at least
This gun has such a comfortable spray pattern that i dont mind the downsides, to me it has been super reliable, and getting HS has been really nice...
However no stock mp7 is too good, so idk.
Striker melts people in hardcore, i've turned it into a one shot mini sniper.
I personally love this gun and I treat it like an assault rifle with 50 rounds and the corp combat holo sight with blue dot and just tear people up no matter what map. Plus using dead silence and the nightshade barrel makes sneaking up on people a breeze
I expected more from a gun that was added this late. The ISO's stats are ass :P
But it looks like the Honeybadger with the last barrel.
I actually really like the ISO. I've temporarily swapped it in to my MP5 setup and My MP7 Shipment setup and I'm enjoying it. I love that Nighshade barrel. It surprises me how well it does as an Assault rifle, whilst still keeping some of the benefits of an SMG (depending on the other attachments). It's a win for me.
It would've been nice to see the recoil with those recommended classes, since there's now multiple attachments affecting it. I assume that first shot jump is severely mitigated with the nightshade and merc foregrip, but your visuals help so much more than just me testing it out in multi. Especially since the ISO isn't in the COD Modem Warfare Wiki app yet (my favorite place to do gun comparisons)
Ace I 100% agree with your opinion on this gun and where it stacks up with the competition. However it feels super fun to use which I think is why I’ll keep using it
I've had a bad feeling about this SMG ever since I saw it lol, its just so bland
Somehow I have been doing exceptionally well with it. Idk why, it feels good in my hands. Maybe it's the range it has that makes it feel like a small AR.
ThoroGaming yeah this is one of my favorite smgs now!
yeah we dont really need any more smg's imho
That's until you meet an mp5, an mp7, or a fennec
@@42ZaphodB42 I dunno, it seems a bit pointless when you can just no stock or skeleton stock an AR if you want that feel with a much better outcome? I just wish it was a more usable SMG or a different gun in general.
I don’t mind the first big jump because I generally find myself starting at the chest, I end up on the head without much adjustment because of the first bullet hop. Everything after is very controllable
how'd they manage to release a gun that needs a buff upon release?
Already got a gun guide the day after the gun comes out. Great work as always ace.
IW just arent able to add a new SMG that breaks into the meta. The closest one was the Fennec. How can they say in the in-game description of this gun that it is designed to dominate close range fight if It literally sucks at it?
Gotta protect the MP5! -Joe Cecot
They wouldn’t dare de-throne the MP5
@@itzimperiumxvi2620 Exactly, its the best SMG since day one! I dont mind it being a strong SMG, or even the strongest, but whats the point of adding DLC guns if they just cant compete?
Fennec is trash, takes 15 hits to kill someone while a pistol with the same ammo take a third as many rounds.
@@jackieboy3528 I think its fine at close range, but the MP5 is so much better, more versatile and easier to use that I never use the Fennec
I maxed out my ISO last night, a great combo for attachments that I used was the Muzzle Break & Commando Foregrip. It helps with stabilisation a whole bunch
Just make this a secondary weapon, problem solved.
😂😂😂
But.....pistols already outperform it.
Based off of the B&T APC-9g, this version has a lower receiver meant to accept glock mags. It would've been cool if they had the option in the gunsmith to kit it like the regular APC-9 pro though, I like the look of the APC-9 with the base B&T lower
Instead of giving us 45-60 rounds for the fennec...they just decided to add a slower shooting one
This weapon's bullet speed feels a lot faster and responsive than the Fennec's.
For me u deserve as much as people like teepee to be a host or caster for cod cdl people dont realise how important your contribute to public knowledge is
- worst time to kill of any smg
- big recoil for 2nd bullet
- 20 ammo per magazine
Yeeeaaa maybe this smg isn't that good
SNOWFUGITIVE wut r u talking about it’s literally cocaine
My favourite gun, with Nightshade and it's like a lighter AR, which my style is more suited to.
Time stamps spaced out so it’s easy to click 😂 (In progress):
Damage - 0:22
Rate of fire - 1:00
Time to kill - 1:19
Range - 1:46
Hardcore range - 2:30
Hip fire - 2:49
Idle away - 3:01
Recoil - 3:09
Ads/sprintout speed - 3:37
Ammo - 3:52
Reload time - 4:17
Movement & strafe speed - 4:34
🔫 _Barrels_ 🔫
FTAC 225mm Dominator barrel - 4:57
FSS Revolution barrel - 5:21
ISO 140mm CQB barrel - 5:59
I just wanted to say I appreciate you bro like all the time you gotta take to make these videos that’s actually can help us get better at the game I know it ain’t easy. You’ve really made me a decent player in cod it just seems like you know what you talking bout and I just had to say thanks man keep doing what you doing
So happy about the RYTAC AMR!!!
But the rytec dropped last season???
SAAAMMEEEE
Pablo Coves he’s talking about the headshot patch
Deathmare yeah
I would make the 30 round mag standard while the 20 round is an attachment to increase movement speed (like how they did the 10 round mags on the SKS). I think that would help the ISO a little. Would free up an attachment spot on most classes.
That would be a great idea,
maybe 20 rounds of 10mm for a more range and damage as well
Idk bro maybe its placebo but i go off with this thing. At the end of the day im gonna use it because it feels nice to me🤷🏽♀️
Already has a gun guide out on this weapon that's true dedication right there.
My friends said the 50 round mags were bad... But 10%... Damn infinity ward
I have no idea why but I have such good luck with this gun. I feel like it kills faster than the MP7 even though it doesn't. When it's kitted it's definitely slower but I don't mind that. Clearly I'm one of the few though lol
Thanks for your work!
I actually love using the iso for certain maps like atlas superstore, rammaza, and plenty of other maps
MP5: Hmph, I am still a god
Sheesh, Ace is putting in that work to get these stats out. I actually started playing Modern Warfare more because of you even though I still think the game is bad because I find it fun using attachments and stuff that are statistically the best and trying to make the best class possible
The build he is using I'm some of the gameplay reminds me the the rmc-12 or the Spectre I think it was called in BO1
Spectre had no recoil though, it's a great value Spectre
I love how you can turn this into an absolute no ads lazer and a decent mid range smg
Question: Does the Revolution+Monolithic give you more range than the nightshade?
No. And it has worse downsides.
Yes :)
No, the revolution gives a 35% range increase and the monolithic a 7.5% range increase which is 42.5% range compared to the nightshade’s 45%.
Try ISO collapsible, 50 rnd mags, FSS Nightfall, Stippled Grip Tape and GI mini reflex.
Or as I call it The Hipfirer : Monolithic suppressor, 50rnd mags, 5mW, ISO collapsible and Stippled grip tape.
Love this gun so much especially on shipment or shoot house
Finally, i fin someone that likes the iso too
@@megagamer8429 2 in 1 billion
we finally met
@@JakeXVII now, i would like to ask, have you ever used the fennec in the same class as the iso?
@@megagamer8429 no I replace the G.I. Mini Reflex with the Merc Foregrip with the Fennec
@@JakeXVII i meant as, using overkill to have both primary weapons in one class
What is the point of this gun? Would much rather have had the Intervention.
i dont really see the point of this gun either but what would the point of an intervention be? we already have 3 bolt actions (and a lever action) and another one coming mid season. like, if they added it it would just be a slightly different ax50 or hdr, which you could probably already achieve with existing attachments. idk why everyone gripes in the comments about lack of snipers in this game, there’s so many they created a new category to split them up a bit. the dmr category is just sniper rifles with faster stats/less damage and access to lower magnified sights. i just wish they would add more unique and interesting weapons in any category that feel different than any other weapons, eg an94, renetti burst, rytec, mk9 60 mag. the iso sucks because it’s stats are awful but also because it doesnt bring anything new to the game. the intervention would also probably bring nothing to the game. i think it would be cool as an ax50 blueprint tho for the people that like the look of it.
They keep adding SMGs and ARs. They really should just add more weapons in the other weapon groups. The intervention or the R700 would’ve helped the Sniper/Marksman category or they could also add a decent secondary or even a new shotgun. Nobody touches the shotguns so a good new shotgun would help shake up the AR/SMG meta.
Reuben... two LMGs, a sniper, two marksman rifles, one and a half new shotguns, a new pistol... but sure, nothing but ARs and SMGs.
SMGs and ARs are meta IRL cause they are so darn good at what they do.
Mingue Kwak the r700 design predates the vietnam war and is based off the mauser (kar98) design. both designs have been modernized since, see the synthetic stock versions of the kar98, but are functionally extremely similar guns. i think the r700 usually fires a slightly weaker bullet too even. so i’m not sure what your point is. modernized mosin nagant rifles are pretty common in recent conflicts. but i really hope the r700 is interesting, maybe fits in the balance as something between kar98 speed and the ax50 damage. youre right that there isn’t much unique weapons but i’m just saying, there’s no need for another bolt action. in a month we’ll have 5 the cover the spectrum of fast but low damage/velocity mk 2 to slow but high damage/velocity hdr.
Caleb Bergthold The weapons you just mentioned just can’t compete with the meta
They are not viable and if they were at some point, they surely have been nerfed to the ground by IW.
I use the nightshade, the 50 round drum, the ftac elite, and the collapsible. Mobility downsides are negated and you get all the range buffs with an aggressive mag size for taking on multiple opponents.
Why can’t they just give us a gun that can compete with the mp5 I’m tired of seeing everyone use one gun
This man's content is God teir
This is the best content about MW on the whole platform.
Thx for the tip about using the M19 to boost ammo
Its very useful when you first unlock this and are running around naked!
I love it, I have only used it in customs but I enjoy it, my class setup i have designed it for hip fire
Iso smg, hip fire god - 'tommy gun of modern warfare '
Barrel: FSS Revolution
Laser: 5mW Laser
Stock: FTAC Vagrant
Underbarrel: Merc Foregrip
Ammunition: 50 Round Drums
From this video I think a good setup would be - nightshade barrel, 30 round mag, commando foregrip, holo sight, and tac laser.
They need to do something to it to make it worth the while. I’m still just using the MP 5, or 7. Even after the Fenec, and the ISO. I was hoping the ISO was gonna have a huge mobility buff because in real life outside of the MP7 it is the lightest of all SMG‘s currently in game at 5 pounds, and the MP7 weighing in at 4.2 pounds.
MP5 6.8 pounds
P90 5.6 pounds
Uzi 9 pounds
Vector 6 pound
This weapon with a sleight buff to movement, and maybe some better recoil control could make it a flanking beast, but no. Guess I’ll have to keep using the MP5 with it‘s ungodly suppressor mod that just turns it into a monster sub that’ll eat any, and everyone’s soul with no deficit to movement even though the weight is the second highest of all smg‘s, and it’s also one of the oldest designs which doesn’t mean much except that the P90 really should perform better as well as the MP7 just because of their superior ammunition.
Don’t become a gun nut. Because this shit will piss you off. I get it, it’s the MP5, but GAHWD DAUMN it’s not that good.
I’ve shot the ISO in real life, and it’s way more manageable than the MP5. People forget how large the MP5 actually is.
I was actually really disappointed that there was no 10mm conversion like the real gun, that really could’ve pushed the damage values on this gun
I think having a .40 or a .45 conversion would be better. Otherwise you'd just have a worse MP5/10
That recoil after the first shot and TTK killed this weapon for me
We appreciate this Ace
Que passa
Im sorry if i made you mad
Thank you for including hard core damage ranges !
Interestingly, this things stats could make for an interesting 'PDW' - a close-range SMG as part of an Overkill Loadout in Warzone. Nightshade Barrel, 50-Rounders, 5mW Laser, ISO Collapsible and Merc Foregrip could probably make for a deadly dedicated-hipfire close-range finisher. It's main drawback would be the huge ADS, but if you're never ADsing in the first place...
yeah, but the MP5 does exactly that but better
@@AshenOne742 They each have their advantages - MP5 has better damage per individual projectile but this has a bigger mag, reloads fast enough that it doesn't need Sleight of Hand, and has tighter hipfire.
It's a fun SMG, i like it. Had more fun in MP with it than the Fennec. We'll see how it works after shotgun season is over .
Personally, I love this gun. I know the stats tell a different story, but I've been raking with this gun and already have it gold. It just feels so accurate and I can get the multiple headshots easily. Plus, I really like the ironsights so it makes it easier to pick attachments when I don't need a sight, although this gun with the VLK is a monster too.
It's only the first shot that has recoil, after that its a laser beam!
For your second suggested class setup, i think it's better to use the stippled grip instead of slight of hand since the gun have already a fast reload to have more ADS speed since we are using the nightshade barrel
I love this gun. I use the no stock, nightshade barrel, 30/50 round mags, sleight of hand and a gi mini reflex. this thing isn’t bad at all with these attachments
I feel like this is the mw version of the lc10, as someone who’s used both. I kinda wanna test this out paired with a sniper
I was using this in scrims yesterday and it preformed pretty well against the mp5 and Uzi. For some reason it's has the mw2 Ump 45 feel to it
The Uzi has the best hipfire spread out of all submachine guns(with attachments)
Tbh if you keep the 20 rd mags, and run all of the long range/recoil control attachments, it’s actually pretty good
May I have a reccomendation. When you are going to include gameplay along with two different loadouts, put clearly identifiable skins on them (like the red and blue tiger, but obviously those would require a bit more playtime with the gun, so whatever works), so that all throughout the video we can clearly know which loadout you are using for that clip to have a better feel for if that's the route we want to go with it. Just a thought! Love your videos, keep up the hard work!
I like this weapon, I can be very accurate with this SMG! I prefer this than the MP5! And with the nightshade barrel u can make it fast and with a lot of range!
A good thing to add to it is a conversion kit with 5.7x28 more damage and velocity would be cool
Im hyped for the video about the AN-94
I've been enjoying it, got it up to lv 46 and already had long shots completed, and most of the other camo categories almost done. May not be the best, but its definitely a worthy smg
Ace man you’re awesome you already got this gun maxed out and a video for us with everything and it’s been out one day 😂
Thank you ace! Just unlocked this dmg this morning
It’s the recoil is very controllable, it shoots fast but not too fast, it’s probably one of my favorites.
My experience with the ISO has been pretty polarizing when seeing Ace's and Driftor's reviews on this gun. While it didn't feel like it was a lower tier gun, I can tell that it doesn't perform as well at closer ranges as much as it can in mid range or AR ranges. I think Driftor is right that this is more of a long range SMG like the UMP 45 because I was able to outperform against MP7's and even other AR's at its best range. This is my experience with the gun at least on mouse and keyboard, so I don't know how controllers fare with it.
Yo my Iso on Warzone is completely different and truly my favorite/best gun. But I dig your setup.
The revolution barrel paired with the monolithic suppressor gives you a bit more range than the nightshade. At the cost of using an additional slot of course.
Thanks for getting the guide out so quickly
Would love a ads, frame comparision with all ads options. I'm curious what's better tac laser vs grip tape.
Woorkin fast! Thanks dude
I like the vid before I even watch it cuz Ace is the GOAT.