Hey Fran, just a little bit of trivia for you. My Uncle worked for NASA for many years during the Shuttle program his title was Director of Safety, I think. We weren't real close and I didnt see him that often but when he was around, like for holidays or a wedding or something he would often tell stories. He was a great story teller. One of the stories I remember him telling was that during the Shuttle program the Vehicle Assembly building was very much under utilized. Seeing as it was built specifically for the Saturn V and the Shuttle being much smaller meant that a large portion of the building was no longer used. During an inspection sometime during the 80s a make-shift basketball court was discovered on one of the unused upper levels in the building. My uncle was amazed at how elaborate it was and all the detail that went into it. It was all constructed from scrap gathered from around the building including the hoops and nets. I think he said there was even a scoreboard . It was supposedly regulation size. How long it had been there no one was sure and no one ever came forward to claim it. Due to safety concerns it was sadly dismantled shortly after its discovery.
Back in the 1960's, we would write to Nasa and ask for anything about the Gemini or Apollo (Saturn) programs. I received photos, booklets, leaflets. They were called Nasa facts. My brother has a set a individual astronaut 8x10 photos, 1960's era. Most of them were signed. My brother and I still have this stuff. The 60's were the best, great memories for a kid especially space related. Thanks Fran.
I'm 61yrs old now. As a kid in the 1960s we were never shown anything like this footage, just the rightly-so hooplah of the Moon Landing itself but as an engineer today this footage is just GOLD.... Thanks Fran.
I never tire of watching Apollo stuff. When I started work as a Components Engineer in aerospace industry late 70s we were still using some technologies that had been developed for Apollo.
In 1969 my family took our first trip to Florida. We stayed in Daytona Beach (during Spring Break - but that's another story) and took the trip through the Kennedy Space Center. In those days, the tour actually included visiting the inside of the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB). There were clouds and sea gulls floating around near the top of the ~400 ft high building (clouds because of the temperature differential inside and outside, the birds had managed to get into the building somehow). There was a Saturn Vb inside the VAB. Just recently, my brother, a retired commercial airline pilot and FAA safety inspector, mentioned to me, "Do you remember the Apollo spacecraft inside the VAB?" I said, "Yes, why?" He said, "You do realize that that was Apollo 11, don't you?" I stopped in amazement, and said something like, "No, I never realized that was the rocket that went to the moon, landed the first men on the moon and brought them back safely to earth." - in JFK's words. How many people can say they saw the first rocket to carry men to the moon up close and personal like that? -- John
@@SpenserRoger I can't remember that. But probably a mix of salt air and hydraulic oil. The air conditioner was huge to keep that building cool. It was the tallest building in Florida (may still be) and was the largest building (by volume) in the world, until Boing built the 747 assembly building in Washington state.
Correction! Should be "Solarcaine" and hydraulic oil. Most of the people on the tour had been on the Florida beaches for a few days (Easter weekend) and were burnt to a crisp (this was pre-skin cancer awareness times). So, like my family, had taken the day off from those beaches to tour KSC. The odor of menthol and wintergreen permeated the atmosphere on the tour bus. Now, we jokingly call skin cancer “the State disease of Florida.”
That's an awesome experience to have John, I'm very envious! Unfortunately I was born 5 years after the last moon landing but I have seen the same Apollo 11 command module up close at the Smithsonian in 1988 on a trip from Australia. Unfortunately us Aussies have the distinction of having the highest rates of skin cancer in the world.
I think what's even more fascinating than Saturn V itself is all the massive infrastructure testing methodology and further facilities required for that. So much engineering, construction and planning at every level I think there are still lessons from this today on the logistics needed for similar efforts.
Fun fact: today's food industry uses HACCP, developed for the space program. It was created to prevent astronauts from getting food poisoning due to contaminated food! And there are people who still say the space program was just a waste of money... I say Thanks HACCP!
I love these videos. What really gets me about this whole program was the sheer level of planning required. It’s just staggering to consider all the details they had to think through and get right. Also, props to NASA for filming all this!
The reality is there was much learning going on throughout the program. Modifications and engineering change orders were daily business to the point they had to freeze non-critical changes, otherwise they might still be working on it. I appreciate the engineer's desire for perfection, but there is always a point where you have to say "good enough" to do the job safely. Of course this flies in the face of current trends where the customer gets to do beta testing at their own expense and downtime because of the companies rush to ship. Of course, now I'm preaching to the choir... Let's just say the art of project management was greatly advanced by way of the Apollo program.
@@mikecowen6507 a citation from (I think) Mike Collins: „Engineering is like diarrhea, it just dribbles on and on“. You have to stop engineers always modyfying or you will Never achieve anything
@@justspacegoatfarts That was a not-so-correctly-reported back in 2009 and it made lots of asshats cheer. It wasn't really like that and a lot of the stuff has been found later. It was not lost, but misplaced.
I was late to the Apollo party. When Schmidt and Cernan packed up and went home, I was some 5 months old. I grew up with the expectation that we'd soon be building bases on the moon, space stations, go to Mars, and all those things. So it's about to be half a century since human feet walked on the moon. I can't help but feel robbed of a fantastic future. This sort of film helps me deal. ^_^ Thanks.
Fran - how could you resist commenting? A fascinating video (film?) into the rockets development. Given the complexity involved - and let's not forget the year - it's surprising things went as well as they did. Ladder drops not withstanding! I hope you have access to some more of these to scatter through your broadcasts in the future. Thank you for this one Fran!
We didn't have access to this kind of detailed information when I was growing up at that time but NOW we can watch progress in real-time at the Boca Chica facility, get details from NASA through their website, and see detailed updates and commentary on UA-cam about space and rocketry events. Thanks, Fran for reminding us how far we have come and where we are likely to go!
Very cool! I saw the Saturn V on display at Johnson, prior to weather protection. It was simply sitting outside. Amazing. My understanding is that these engines cannot be recreated. Evidently there were many details that were changed and updated on the fly by both engineers and technicians. At the end of the program, the documents were never updated, and additional notes were lost. This is really a moment in time that can never be duplicated. Its likely the talent pool of knowledgable people couldn't be duplicated today, either.
The F1 engines were made from hundreds of parts which were then individually modified to fit together, then it was all welded together. No one would make them that way now, there are better ways. It's not just the hand written notes that were lost, it's the skills needed to do that. For a modern engine, the whole thing would be a few parts CNC machined out of solid metal, then bolted/welded together.
Nice. I never got to work on any Apollo hardware but I did get to take advantage of a program to get a BSEE that fast-tracked engineering students because of a shortage of engineers required for the Apollo program that was still in place.
@14:17 they talk about engine tests at AEDC in Tullahoma, TN. I’m from Tullahoma and my father worked at AEDC for 42 years. He used to tell me about those tests and you could actually hear them while they were being fired even though we lived 9 miles from the test site.
Superb. Good quality film and converted footage from half a century ago. The engineering, collaboration, and scale is something to be envied today. Back then people complained about the waste and cost. Which although excessive was essentially for the benefit of human kind. Today with the amount of 3 yo mobile phones and portable electronic devices that go into landfill globally we truly understand the meaning of waste without benefit, yet no one bats an eyelid.
Thank you, Fran! This is great. This is far more detailed information (including leaks, seal failures, O ring transits, ladder drops, etc.) than was generally available to the general public, as I recall. The F-1 testing at 12:05 was especially interesting, as I hike around the Santa Susanna Test Site, just west of Canoga Park (they say "Edwards, California" - could be, I suppose) fairly frequently, and parts of the test stand are still present (as is residue from a number of nearby breaches from prototype DOE LMFBR reactors). It also informs the work that's going on now with the Space Launch System, and with SpaceX Starship, often covered by the good folks at The Planetary Society, in both their weekly podcasts and their monthly Space Policy Editions.
OK, how many of you remember "film strip day" in class? What an honor it was to get to advance the strip at the "boop" on the sound track. The second best job was being allowed to turn the lights off and then back on at the end of the film.
I love the older films! While I was not quite alive yet I do remember seeing some of the later ones on 1 of the 3 TV channels that existed back then :)
I was able to visit the test facility in Mississippi and Michoud back when the shuttle program was still active. They were testing the solid boosters in MS and they built the big liquid tanks at Michoud back then. It was fascinating! Never did get to actually see a test firing, though...
Great, astounding, Fran! My former employer had one or even two of its roots in supplying some small part to the manufacturing effort. I recognized on one of the big test panels an HP oscilloscope, apparently identical to the one that we used after I joined the company. I also have one or two photos about the LOX channel where the fathers of our company had been involved. These fathers were a collection of industry and university talent, some of who after the Saturn job formally started the company which later went through various mergers and some privatizations. Anyway, great catch!
Gotta love the Space Music in these old films. btw just about everythign you want to know about the Saturn V (and 1) Stages to Saturn by Roger E. Bilstein. The all-inclusive test of Apollo 4 was hotly debated for example.
@@paulsontag9233 Challenger was o-ring blowby due to cold, Thiokol engineers told them not to fire it. I wonder if UAT has all the old test reports I read as a engineer at Thiokol. SRB tests in the 60s were right down to the metal for optimum efficiency.
We never really appreciate the vast amount of research and testing that went on before any launch took place. I'm not surprised that it cost so much money but at least America can be proud of getting to the Moon and back.
Actually, in adjusted dollars, the Saturn 5 rockets were CHEAP. When preparing for a return to manned USA flights, they considered remaking the old rockets, but so much of the data had been lost or was unreadable, and the engineers and technicians who worked on it were all retired or deceased.
@@MrLunithy One of the biggest problems with early computing was lack of ability to do data storage. I spent 30 years working for Boeing, in and around one of their large data centers. In the 1980s they had a Cray Supercomputer, which, for it's time had a lot of storage. 1 Terabyte. We were all told not to touch it. Ever. Too expensive if it broke. Now 2T hard drives are around $100. Back in the day, data was stored on paper and magnetic tape. The formats changed. When the attempt was made to recreate Saturn 5, some of the tapes were still around, but the means to read them was not. I remember stories in the mid 2000's about searching for old tape drives from the 1960's in museums, and performing electronic restorations on them.
@@waltschannel7465 Thanks for that, Do you know how the data was structured on those old tapes? I wonder if it wouldn't be impossible to read them some way.
I bet those guys at Canoga Park seen at 13:25 probably not realizing at the time they had extreme high value documentation of F-1 engine construction stored in their brains.
This is great. Thank you Fran! Imagine the combined power of the 5 F1 engines was 5000 hp more than USS Nimitz at full trottle. That is their fuel pumps. Compare that to the fuel pump in a car. I guess it in the region of a 12 V electric screwdriver. The F1:s were the hot bulb engines of the space age. Practically unstoppable.
This is fascinating... In a way, it sort of mirrors how the internet gives detailed day-to-day coverage of things like SpaceX, but official and thus without the speculation. 🤔🚀
Fran, do you have more of these? Who exactly was the intended audience for this? And Lol at the o-ring and the ladder guy. The double welding and seal application really makes ya feel this thing was held together with spit and bubble gum. Amazing.
I was wondering that too. Since Congress foots the bill, maybe it was for them ? On the other hand, maybe it was for any contractor that was involved in the construction of the rocket ? Maybe any American citizen since we were the ones really footing the bill with our tax dollars ??
His accent or pronunciation of words like New Orleans made me rewind the video couple times even this place called Marshall "Michoud" Assembly Facility. Wish it had cc or sub titles ;D
I live near Huntsville and occasionally have to visit MSFC to work. Some of the test stands are still around and being used for things like the SLS. I don't get to visit that stuff.
So even in the 1960 Americans used fancy words or made up words when standard words could have been used. De-erected used instead of the normal dissembled. It's like when I hear the word de-planed to describe people getting off a plane, when the words exiting or leaving could've been used.
Eh that's not an America thing that's an engineer thing. Engineering terms are often hyper-specific, mostly because its engineers who come up with them, but also because something like "disassembled" is ambiguous in this case (Did you take the rocket down off the stand or did you strip it all the way down to individual parts? etc.) Incidentally I think these days it's referred to as stacking / unstacking, for added fun words.
If you like Apollo stuff, you probably should check out the BBC World Service series "13 Minutes to the Moon," especially the episode "Saving 1968" which illustrates how out on the edge the Apollo 8 mission was.
I love these films thanks! Interesting how they use the metric system. I think the AGC worked in metric and the outputs to the DSKY had to be converted to imperial units, but someone correct me if Im wrong!
I think we are very LUCKY Richard. We know 'gravity' is still a bitch but WE remember how we got here... "THEY" (the young) will never know just how great Americans were to each other in those days..
Wow, nice one Fran, I thought I had seen all of these old Saturn V progress report films, but this one slipped me by. I wonder what happened to the pad testing vehicle in the end?
Interesting video. I closed my eyes for a few seconds watching this video. I had a weird feeling I was back in science class in highschool lol. Remarkable how much rocket science technology advanced in just 20 years since Nazi Germany started their rocket science program. Germany successfuly launched at England a few rocket missile bombs which in reality caused more panic than destruction and deaths. After the war the U.S. brought home Nazi rocket scientists for which NASA would have not successfuly accomplish the Apollo mission program. Russia kept another batch of Nazi rocket scientists. And the rest is history.......
As far as I can tell it's a specific term that applies to the Saturn V, here's an old report that mentions it: core.ac.uk/download/pdf/85255496.pdf It's a weld on the "dollar" segment, which is part of the skin/bulkhead interface I think?
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i wish more channels did this just to flex their public domain rights and share what they like with their audience. massive cheers for this one!!
Thank you from Hamburg, Germany. Regards
Hey Fran, just a little bit of trivia for you. My Uncle worked for NASA for many years during the Shuttle program his title was Director of Safety, I think. We weren't real close and I didnt see him that often but when he was around, like for holidays or a wedding or something he would often tell stories. He was a great story teller. One of the stories I remember him telling was that during the Shuttle program the Vehicle Assembly building was very much under utilized. Seeing as it was built specifically for the Saturn V and the Shuttle being much smaller meant that a large portion of the building was no longer used. During an inspection sometime during the 80s a make-shift basketball court was discovered on one of the unused upper levels in the building. My uncle was amazed at how elaborate it was and all the detail that went into it. It was all constructed from scrap gathered from around the building including the hoops and nets. I think he said there was even a scoreboard . It was supposedly regulation size. How long it had been there no one was sure and no one ever came forward to claim it. Due to safety concerns it was sadly dismantled shortly after its discovery.
Thank you for sharing this.
Back in the 1960's, we would write to Nasa and ask for anything about the Gemini or Apollo (Saturn) programs. I received photos, booklets, leaflets. They were called Nasa facts. My brother has a set a individual astronaut 8x10 photos, 1960's era. Most of them were signed. My brother and I still have this stuff.
The 60's were the best, great memories for a kid especially space related. Thanks Fran.
I'm 61yrs old now. As a kid in the 1960s we were never shown anything like this footage, just the rightly-so hooplah of the Moon Landing itself but as an engineer today this footage is just GOLD.... Thanks Fran.
If you look around, you can find almost all of them on you tube. Man they are great aren’t they?
I never tire of watching Apollo stuff. When I started work as a Components Engineer in aerospace industry late 70s we were still using some technologies that had been developed for Apollo.
I wonder what else we're still using today that were developed for Apollo?
@@SpenserRoger A lot of it, mostly remnants of various softwares. Apollo has had a profound positive impact on the whole world.
In 1969 my family took our first trip to Florida. We stayed in Daytona Beach (during Spring Break - but that's another story) and took the trip through the Kennedy Space Center. In those days, the tour actually included visiting the inside of the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB). There were clouds and sea gulls floating around near the top of the ~400 ft high building (clouds because of the temperature differential inside and outside, the birds had managed to get into the building somehow). There was a Saturn Vb inside the VAB.
Just recently, my brother, a retired commercial airline pilot and FAA safety inspector, mentioned to me, "Do you remember the Apollo spacecraft inside the VAB?" I said, "Yes, why?" He said, "You do realize that that was Apollo 11, don't you?" I stopped in amazement, and said something like, "No, I never realized that was the rocket that went to the moon, landed the first men on the moon and brought them back safely to earth." - in JFK's words. How many people can say they saw the first rocket to carry men to the moon up close and personal like that?
-- John
What did it smell like?
@@SpenserRoger I can't remember that. But probably a mix of salt air and hydraulic oil. The air conditioner was huge to keep that building cool. It was the tallest building in Florida (may still be) and was the largest building (by volume) in the world, until Boing built the 747 assembly building in Washington state.
Correction! Should be "Solarcaine" and hydraulic oil. Most of the people on the tour had been on the Florida beaches for a few days (Easter weekend) and were burnt to a crisp (this was pre-skin cancer awareness times). So, like my family, had taken the day off from those beaches to tour KSC. The odor of menthol and wintergreen permeated the atmosphere on the tour bus. Now, we jokingly call skin cancer “the State disease of Florida.”
That's an awesome experience to have John, I'm very envious! Unfortunately I was born 5 years after the last moon landing but I have seen the same Apollo 11 command module up close at the Smithsonian in 1988 on a trip from Australia.
Unfortunately us Aussies have the distinction of having the highest rates of skin cancer in the world.
I think what's even more fascinating than Saturn V itself is all the massive infrastructure testing methodology and further facilities required for that. So much engineering, construction and planning at every level I think there are still lessons from this today on the logistics needed for similar efforts.
Fun fact: today's food industry uses HACCP, developed for the space program. It was created to prevent astronauts from getting food poisoning due to contaminated food!
And there are people who still say the space program was just a waste of money... I say Thanks HACCP!
I love these videos. What really gets me about this whole program was the sheer level of planning required. It’s just staggering to consider all the details they had to think through and get right.
Also, props to NASA for filming all this!
shame they lost all the moon landing footage and the telemetry data ,,,,www.reuters.com/article/us-nasa-tapes-idUSTRE56F5MK20090716
The reality is there was much learning going on throughout the program. Modifications and engineering change orders were daily business to the point they had to freeze non-critical changes, otherwise they might still be working on it. I appreciate the engineer's desire for perfection, but there is always a point where you have to say "good enough" to do the job safely. Of course this flies in the face of current trends where the customer gets to do beta testing at their own expense and downtime because of the companies rush to ship. Of course, now I'm preaching to the choir... Let's just say the art of project management was greatly advanced by way of the Apollo program.
@@mikecowen6507 a citation from (I think) Mike Collins: „Engineering is like diarrhea, it just dribbles on and on“. You have to stop engineers always modyfying or you will Never achieve anything
@@theonlymadmac4771 Absolutely!
@@justspacegoatfarts That was a not-so-correctly-reported back in 2009 and it made lots of asshats cheer. It wasn't really like that and a lot of the stuff has been found later. It was not lost, but misplaced.
Everything was new, the paint was fresh, work underway as things like roads were still being finished. Amazing.
I was late to the Apollo party. When Schmidt and Cernan packed up and went home, I was some 5 months old. I grew up with the expectation that we'd soon be building bases on the moon, space stations, go to Mars, and all those things. So it's about to be half a century since human feet walked on the moon. I can't help but feel robbed of a fantastic future. This sort of film helps me deal. ^_^ Thanks.
Fran - how could you resist commenting? A fascinating video (film?) into the rockets development. Given the complexity involved - and let's not forget the year - it's surprising things went as well as they did. Ladder drops not withstanding! I hope you have access to some more of these to scatter through your broadcasts in the future. Thank you for this one Fran!
What an absolutely amazing machine... I still get goose bumps.
I was 20 years old then, this was a exciting time period; culminating with the start to the moon 1969 unforgetable!
We didn't have access to this kind of detailed information when I was growing up at that time but NOW we can watch progress in real-time at the Boca Chica facility, get details from NASA through their website, and see detailed updates and commentary on UA-cam about space and rocketry events. Thanks, Fran for reminding us how far we have come and where we are likely to go!
Very cool! I saw the Saturn V on display at Johnson, prior to weather protection. It was simply sitting outside. Amazing. My understanding is that these engines cannot be recreated. Evidently there were many details that were changed and updated on the fly by both engineers and technicians. At the end of the program, the documents were never updated, and additional notes were lost. This is really a moment in time that can never be duplicated. Its likely the talent pool of knowledgable people couldn't be duplicated today, either.
The F1 engines were made from hundreds of parts which were then individually modified to fit together, then it was all welded together.
No one would make them that way now, there are better ways. It's not just the hand written notes that were lost, it's the skills needed to do that.
For a modern engine, the whole thing would be a few parts CNC machined out of solid metal, then bolted/welded together.
Nice. I never got to work on any Apollo hardware but I did get to take advantage of a program to get a BSEE that fast-tracked engineering students because of a shortage of engineers required for the Apollo program that was still in place.
I was 5.....
Definitely appreciate it more now than I would have then.
Thanks Fran.
@14:17 they talk about engine tests at AEDC in Tullahoma, TN. I’m from Tullahoma and my father worked at AEDC for 42 years. He used to tell me about those tests and you could actually hear them while they were being fired even though we lived 9 miles from the test site.
Superb. Good quality film and converted footage from half a century ago. The engineering, collaboration, and scale is something to be envied today. Back then people complained about the waste and cost. Which although excessive was essentially for the benefit of human kind. Today with the amount of 3 yo mobile phones and portable electronic devices that go into landfill globally we truly understand the meaning of waste without benefit, yet no one bats an eyelid.
Thank you, Fran! This is great.
This is far more detailed information (including leaks, seal failures, O ring transits, ladder drops, etc.) than was generally available to the general public, as I recall.
The F-1 testing at 12:05 was especially interesting, as I hike around the Santa Susanna Test Site, just west of Canoga Park (they say "Edwards, California" - could be, I suppose) fairly frequently, and parts of the test stand are still present (as is residue from a number of nearby breaches from prototype DOE LMFBR reactors).
It also informs the work that's going on now with the Space Launch System, and with SpaceX Starship, often covered by the good folks at The Planetary Society, in both their weekly podcasts and their monthly Space Policy Editions.
Thanks for uploading, Fran! Man, I wish everything was still narrated like this. I think this dialect is called mid-Atlantic.
OK, that was amazing. I find this kind of thing incredibly stress relieving.
This helps you appreciate the massive industry behind building these rockets
OK, how many of you remember "film strip day" in class? What an honor it was to get to advance the strip at the "boop" on the sound track. The second best job was being allowed to turn the lights off and then back on at the end of the film.
Crazy to look at the Saturn V. What a monumental human achievement.
Fantastic, never seen this before. The complexity is staggering.
This is a gold mine of information. Thanks a bunch Fran.
Awesome!! Thanks for posting this!!! Will watch when I'm not so tired!
Thanks for posting this Fran. Awesome.
Very cool! Thank you for posting!
The site referred to as MTF a number of times in the film is the Mississippi Test Facility, now known as NASA John C. Stennis Space Center.
Awesome Fran! Thanks for posting this! I had never seen this video and it brings so much insight! Thank you !!!!
I love the older films!
While I was not quite alive yet I do remember seeing some of the later ones on 1 of the 3 TV channels that existed back then :)
Very awesome old film
seeing engineers standing around lends scale to this particular conveyance. astounding.
I was able to visit the test facility in Mississippi and Michoud back when the shuttle program was still active. They were testing the solid boosters in MS and they built the big liquid tanks at Michoud back then. It was fascinating!
Never did get to actually see a test firing, though...
Great, astounding, Fran! My former employer had one or even two of its roots in supplying some small part to the manufacturing effort. I recognized on one of the big test panels an HP oscilloscope, apparently identical to the one that we used after I joined the company. I also have one or two photos about the LOX channel where the fathers of our company had been involved. These fathers were a collection of industry and university talent, some of who after the Saturn job formally started the company which later went through various mergers and some privatizations. Anyway, great catch!
Fabulous find, thanks for sharing!
Gotta love the Space Music in these old films.
btw just about everythign you want to know about the Saturn V (and 1) Stages to Saturn by Roger E. Bilstein.
The all-inclusive test of Apollo 4 was hotly debated for example.
AWESOME Fran!
Love Love LOVE this!!!
Wow, never knew the video existed, thanx for uploading it.
Wow Fran good job. I'm going to be one of your supporters is some bucks the latest in a great job.
Gotta wonder about that lost o-ring. Someone had a bad day :D
Not very funny Chuck. Remember the Challenger?
@@paulsontag9233 Challenger was o-ring blowby due to cold, Thiokol engineers told them not to fire it. I wonder if UAT has all the old test reports I read as a engineer at Thiokol. SRB tests in the 60s were right down to the metal for optimum efficiency.
Thank you for this!
Great piece of history excellent video! How did you ever acquire this treasure.
Just look on UA-cam for nasa quarterly report
Apollo program stuff ....awesome
We never really appreciate the vast amount of research and testing that went on before any launch took place.
I'm not surprised that it cost so much money but at least America can be proud of getting to the Moon and back.
Actually, in adjusted dollars, the Saturn 5 rockets were CHEAP. When preparing for a return to manned USA flights, they considered remaking the old rockets, but so much of the data had been lost or was unreadable, and the engineers and technicians who worked on it were all retired or deceased.
@@waltschannel7465 Dam shame that.
@@MrLunithy One of the biggest problems with early computing was lack of ability to do data storage. I spent 30 years working for Boeing, in and around one of their large data centers. In the 1980s they had a Cray Supercomputer, which, for it's time had a lot of storage. 1 Terabyte. We were all told not to touch it. Ever. Too expensive if it broke. Now 2T hard drives are around $100. Back in the day, data was stored on paper and magnetic tape. The formats changed. When the attempt was made to recreate Saturn 5, some of the tapes were still around, but the means to read them was not. I remember stories in the mid 2000's about searching for old tape drives from the 1960's in museums, and performing electronic restorations on them.
@@waltschannel7465 Thanks for that, Do you know how the data was structured on those old tapes? I wonder if it wouldn't be impossible to read them some way.
The sad part is that such a large part of the US population nowadays seem to believe it never happened ...
Amazing film!
What fascinates me about the Apollo series is the LACK of tech, but how well they applied what they had.
The program consumed 70% of the U.S. semiconductor production! And those "chips" were primitive! Barely beyond tubes in functionality.
This was a great find.
I bet those guys at Canoga Park seen at 13:25 probably not realizing at the time they had extreme high value documentation of F-1 engine construction stored in their brains.
Thank you x
This is great. Thank you Fran! Imagine the combined power of the 5 F1 engines was 5000 hp more than USS Nimitz at full trottle. That is their fuel pumps. Compare that to the fuel pump in a car. I guess it in the region of a 12 V electric screwdriver. The F1:s were the hot bulb engines of the space age. Practically unstoppable.
The Saturn first stage generated about 60 gigawatts.
And that was a thrust-to-weight ratio of 1.2:1 at ignition! Happy KSP!
Love this!!
This is fascinating... In a way, it sort of mirrors how the internet gives detailed day-to-day coverage of things like SpaceX, but official and thus without the speculation. 🤔🚀
Thank you! Excellent!
Really fantastic info!
Fran, do you have more of these?
Who exactly was the intended audience for this? And Lol at the o-ring and the ladder guy. The double welding and seal application really makes ya feel this thing was held together with spit and bubble gum. Amazing.
I was wondering that too. Since Congress foots the bill, maybe it was for them ? On the other hand, maybe it was for any contractor that was involved in the construction of the rocket ? Maybe any American citizen since we were the ones really footing the bill with our tax dollars ??
His accent or pronunciation of words like New Orleans made me rewind the video couple times even this place called Marshall "Michoud" Assembly Facility. Wish it had cc or sub titles ;D
Fascinating how many issues were found during testing and fixed. Makes me wonder how many made it through...
Zero Defects was the directive.
Wow. Alot of facilities were constructed for the Saturn project
That was so interesting, Thank you Fran. When you look at the Saturn V, you think, that is too big and heavy to fly.
.... 160,000,000 horsepower generated to achieve escape velocity,
Space/Time curvature 'pushing' down requires a serious counter force to overcome.
@@robbieaussievic um..... Rockets are measured in "thrust" and just say Gravity pulling down will you?
Loved it, thank you.
More please!!
Most enjoyable
I live near Huntsville and occasionally have to visit MSFC to work. Some of the test stands are still around and being used for things like the SLS. I don't get to visit that stuff.
This is an awesome video
So even in the 1960 Americans used fancy words or made up words when standard words could have been used. De-erected used instead of the normal dissembled. It's like when I hear the word de-planed to describe people getting off a plane, when the words exiting or leaving could've been used.
Eh that's not an America thing that's an engineer thing. Engineering terms are often hyper-specific, mostly because its engineers who come up with them, but also because something like "disassembled" is ambiguous in this case (Did you take the rocket down off the stand or did you strip it all the way down to individual parts? etc.) Incidentally I think these days it's referred to as stacking / unstacking, for added fun words.
Agree with you that "de-planed" is a dumb word though, lol
If you like Apollo stuff, you probably should check out the BBC World Service series "13 Minutes to the Moon," especially the episode "Saving 1968" which illustrates how out on the edge the Apollo 8 mission was.
I love these films thanks! Interesting how they use the metric system. I think the AGC worked in metric and the outputs to the DSKY had to be converted to imperial units, but someone correct me if Im wrong!
I found it interesting. Thank you.
this is too cool. cheers!
Oh boy. Another steaming pile reminding me of how old I am 😁
(Truly though. It was a very interesting video - even if it was younger than me 🤣)
I think we are very LUCKY Richard. We know 'gravity' is still a bitch but WE remember how we got here... "THEY" (the young) will never know just how great Americans were to each other in those days..
Now that's cool content used to love space stuff I'm 61 and remember it was the bomb then 👍❤️
A very unusual PowerPoint presentation.
Wow, a detailed quarterly report on film. Any others like this for other quarters?
All on youtube
Timely and relevant!
(Also really cool)
Educational
PS: Thanks, Fran :)
Wow, nice one Fran, I thought I had seen all of these old Saturn V progress report films, but this one slipped me by. I wonder what happened to the pad testing vehicle in the end?
Do you have any of your pedals to sell?
Very informative, thanks !🚭💫🚀
The drama! I laughed! I cried! A triumph!
Nice find, Fran! I guess there's still some space program footage that isn't owned by PeriscopeFilm yet. (They still have some great content, though.)
“ I need to know if the IAU is correcting for the number 5 shutdown!”
Interesting video. I closed my eyes for a few seconds watching this video. I had a weird feeling I was back in science class in highschool lol. Remarkable how much rocket science technology advanced in just 20 years since Nazi Germany started their rocket science program. Germany successfuly launched at England a few rocket missile bombs which in reality caused more panic than destruction and deaths. After the war the U.S. brought home Nazi rocket scientists for which NASA would have not successfuly accomplish the Apollo mission program. Russia kept another batch of Nazi rocket scientists. And the rest is history.......
If I'm not mistaken, the 2nd stage flight article 3 was Apollo 8, right? They flew humans with a cracked stage?
.... 160,000,000 horsepower generated to achieve escape velocity,
Space/Time curvature 'pushing' down requires a serious counter force to overcome.
Did you work at NASA Fran ?
Whatta MACHINE!
Sorry, Fran, but I used this public footage in a documentary I made back in 1989. You owe me one Vibutron.
I was ten years old
5:23 If you can't take the heat...GET OUT OF THE ROCKET PROPULSION TEST CHAMBER!!
THis is great archival footage. Just wish you did a lowpass filter to get rid of the high pitched whining.
Oh, I did - this IS the filtered transfer. The old projectors were not shielded for all the RF we have in the air these days.
@@FranLab That faint data interference seems to only be present on the lefthand sound channel.
What is a dollar weld? Google is apparently no use for me.
Read about it...in real paper books my friend. Sad thing is we now all depend on Google for information. This does not have to be so.
As far as I can tell it's a specific term that applies to the Saturn V, here's an old report that mentions it: core.ac.uk/download/pdf/85255496.pdf It's a weld on the "dollar" segment, which is part of the skin/bulkhead interface I think?
@@acamaro5648 Sorry buddy but my local library is closed due to COVID
This may be related
www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=182011
@@acamaro5648 anyway we are watching a youtube video....not everyone has books on the manufacture of cryogenic tanks laying around
What went wrong between then and now. We can hardly make an N 95 mask.
I would like you to talk about the importance of wernem von braum in SatuRNO 5 OR BETTER IN THE AMERICAN SPACE PROGRAM, AND ITS GAINS TO TODAY
As a kid, I used to eat this stuff up.
"the most powerful rocket ever built, even though the last one flew in 1973"
I kept wondering why kfc needed a saturn v rocket heheh