Hey all, unfortunately I've been sick since boxing day and my voice isn't fully back yet so I've put this compilation together. I'm hopefully going to be able to make new content in the next two weeks. I hope the new year has started better for you than it did for me!
Three is the magic number, SOS - an S is THREE dots, an O is THREE dashes, and the second S is THREE dots again, man made landmarks in form of a triangle etc
When I began to read your comment I started to roll my eyes because I was sure it was going to be a complaint about how it was only 56 mins (or something similar) so NOT an hour!! 😂 But, surprise! A decent, positive comment - these people still exist! 🎉 👏👏👏
Hello Adam, I hope for your speedy recovery with your voice. 🤗 It's terrible when you get sick and your voice goes, which is important for your content. Thank you for the eerie disappearances, they're so strange.
Don't ever underestimate the nonsensical uselessness of the RCMP! Just look at what they did (or rather didn't do) in the hunt for Bart Schleyer. And that's just one example! It doesn't surprise me one bit that they had skilled SAR folks cleaning up trash.
Maybe Ray got out of the camper to relieve himself and locking the door to ensure the dogs not getting out, and then heard and saw something that led to his disappearance. Scary to say the least.
The first story you cover in this episode is at least the third time i've heard of someone going missing in Canada and where the RCMP have either not bothered to look for the person very much, or they've done weird things, and been secretive while looking for that person. There was another story I heard where a guy was hunting and went missing, and when his friends reported him missing, the RCMP looked a little bit but then decided he wasn't there and that he had left. Even though the guy had been flown in in a float plane. So his friends went looking for him and found parts of his body I believe. Or they found some of his equipment proving that he hadn't just left. Then the RCMP came back and found his body, or the rest of it, or something along those lines. I can't remember the whole story exactly, but I do remember how badly the RCMP acted at the beginning of when the guy went missing. It seriously sounds like the RCMP is lazy, incompetent, and just completely unprofessional. Except for when they are in parades or do funerals for fallen comrades. Then their outfits are spick and span, and they act like they're professionals. Maybe they should spend less time making sure their uniforms are spotless, and spend more time doing their jobs, like they're supposed to. Complete jokes.
I’ve noticed law enforcement around the world does not care and will not put the work in to help the average person. But they love protecting property and rich folk
I think you’re talking about Bart Schleyer, they didn’t even attempt to find him, another case is in Nahani valley in BC, two men gone missing and the rcmp did a really sloppy job investigating that too. They don’t even attempt looking for missing and murdered indigenous peoples I don’t really get it, is it they don’t know how to begin or maybe being on missing persons detail is where they assign the least experienced officers or that’s where they send them for punishment? I’m sure if we looked we’d find many more. If I was a cop I think I’d find it a challenging but interesting job and bringing closure to the families reward enough.
Hi, Canadian here... you pretty much hit the nail on the head. The RCMP are nearly the most incompetent police I can think of. To the point that I know if myself or 1 of my l9ced one goes missing, is kidnapped or go forbid murdered... unless they catch the culprit red-handed or the evidence spells it out for them, the case will go unsolved. They have more important things to do, like hand out tinted window tickets.
Missing Void I pray that you have a speedy recovery. I also would like to take this moment to let you know how much I enjoy ur channel. You are extremely talented and thorough,even adding updates when they are found. Thank you for the time spent and your obvious dedication to tell the stories of those missing…
I look forward to every new episode now that I've gone through all of them 😊. Your presentation of the information is easy to follow but also leads to new questions not yet answered. Can't wait!
Harrison lake is not in the middle of no where. It’s a very popular swimming and camping spot. Very close to civilization. South is Harrison Hot springs a village connected directly to the lake, and 45m by vehicle is several major cities. Harrison lake although, is a very popular place for the loud party type campers and a popular shooting location. There is a lot of bear activity in that area. I don’t know how to explain it but in that area there is also a lot of locals that don’t want out of Towners to be camping there due to being loud and destructive. Source: I live near by.
3 shots in a row indicates an emergency of some sort. He was am older guy, perhaps he felt chest pain, or had injured himself and the 3 shots were a plea for help? In my time as a firefighter that searched for people, something as simple as a twisted ankle could be enough to get a person killed in the forest. Older people have more medical issues, and if you camp alone, there is no one to help you. Dying over a sprained ankle is a sad way to go...never camp alone. A second person can go get help while you relax. Thats not even to mention what kind of dangerous stuff is out there just waiting for you to be alone, or fall asleep in your own camp.
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Tom Messick case that man is underground, they needed to check out all those cave systems underground. Back in the 80's and early 90's we used to go caving and seen a lot of strange things in those caves and they go on for miles some go on to near by states. When Tom friend said he heard a strange noise in the woods that very day, they should have checked for trapdoors around his area he was last seen.
The story about Jelani: It's not strange that his friends didn't call the police just because he left. He was 24 years old. Someone that age who's visiting a friend's house doesn't need a reason to leave. He's an adult who can go where he wants to without explaining himself. It would be weird if a group of friends called the police just because someone left their house.
i live in this area and i'll just state a few things there are illegal grow ops in the area ,you only would lock the dogs up for 2 reasons (animal or people threat). belongings not returned by RCMP usually means an open investigation.. grow ops sometimes guarded by armed people hence armed searching.
Good to hear from you Adam. *Sorry you had a rough go @ the New Year.* May you get well soon. 😇 Thank you for entertaining & informing us on these stories. P.S. It is always a pleasure hearing from you about these cases that may/might have gone unnoticed. "Take care & stay safe!!" 🦅
29:20 Total shot in the dark (pun incoming): Considering that there were suspicions of foul play. The described "crack" could have been a suppressed shot. Even when suppressed, you can still hear the supersonic "crack" of a bullet passing the sound barrier (unless it's a subsonic bullet). To add to that, the direction of suppressed shots is often misjudged because the sound that actually reaches your ear might be an echo and not from the original position of the shot. Mountains and Hills have a tendency to "reflect" these supersonic cracks, so it might have sounded like it came from 150 yards up the hill, even though it was actually shot downhill.
I'm going straight from this video to Dark Curiosity so I can get my fill of beautiful Scottish accents. And as much as I like your voice there's nothing like having a Scottish woman's voice whispering in my ear.
Two things. One, there is such a thing as dry drowning. You drown without water getting in your lungs. I forget the exact mechanism. Your throat closes up or something and you get no air in but also no water. Two, the young men in Manchester's canals. There is noone caught pushing people into the canals. But, there is no images of the men falling into the canals. Neither the one or the other. Very perplexing. Thanks for another great video. Stay safe.🤗🤔
@Missing Void Story 1, Ray, leaving the dogs inside means that he went outside briefly perhaps a toilet break. If Ray was going to go for a walk he would have taken the dogs with him. Obviously something happened at the moment he was busy with a toilet break as he would have been easy prey if his pants were down around his ankles.Ray would not let his dogs out while he's doing a toilet break because they might run off into the woods. Having a tactical response group on station means only one thing, there was a threat they were there to subdue. Forcing rescue parties to clean up trash means that they were kept out of the way of harm by either the threat or by friendly fire. The tactical response group was not interested in the disappearance of Ray, to them Ray would have been hunting signs for the threat they were after. If they found both Ray & the threat this tactical response group would have cleaned the area of all traces, Ray's cause of death would then become classified.
Second to last case: GHB. As someone who is very familiar with this substance, once you take it you've got about 30 minutes before you are completely unconscious, that's why it's considered a "date rape" drug. He either wandered off as the GHB was kicking in which would account for his rambling walk all over the area and his subsequent falling into the shallow pond or he was abducted(Smiley Face Killers perhaps), drugged and possibly died due to the amount of GHB that was given to him and then dumped in the pond. Oh, and the reason his friends didn't call the cops is twofold: dude was 24 and they probably thought he just left cuz he was over it and this is the USA, it's not exactly safe for black folks to call the cops, for any reason, you've seen the videos on UA-cam, rarely works out for em. To me, that's not suspicious at all for the previous reasons given. Too many of these young men going missing and then ending up deceased in a random body of water to be a coincidence. Hinky af.
Ray could have got the call that i always talk about. So many people have suddenly dropped what they are doing and disapeared off. But i think he felt he was under attack by god knows what. And took off to try and get away. Locking the dogs in the camper fits this idea. But i have no idea what it could be.
Hello, love your channel. Now I have heard of Tom Messick disappearance many times over the last years and regarding the FBI involvement, fist they had not been called in and the agents that were sent in was to ONLY document the search and any findings from it. The FBI has in fact shown up at many other missing persons cases that for into the 411 type cases for the same reason to doxument findings from any searches conducted. Now, it's also interesting that the main agent involved in those documented case to the FBI committed suicide some years later, just what the FBI was looking for and what they had known about what was involved in those cases was never clearly stated but it is supported that it troubled the agent that took his life.
Ray didn't lock those dogs away. Rays kidnappers did then threw him off the cliff onto the beach trying to kill him. When he survived the attempt murder he tried swimming away from them and drowned. Idk possible
In the missing hunter story, the description of that mystery noise sounds like it could have been a very well suppressed self-loading firearm. It’s a really pulpy explanation, but with big enough a suppressor the loudest sound from a shot is the gun’s action cycling, and the noise it makes is essentially the incredibly quick sound of the bolt slamming back and forth. It could also explain the fbi interest, if the suspected someone was out in the woods shooting people with a silenced weapon, even if that’s not what the sound turned out to have been.
He may have left the dogs in the camper for their safety since it was night thinking they may run after whatever it was, or not be able to find them in the dark if they did go after "it". If just doesn't sound like it was a human predator since Ray most likely could have handled a situation with a human.
As for some new content this year, dark, obscure, or scary rabbit holes are always a good watch. Also, abductions and or ufo sightings or cryptids. Although, those will probably steer the channel in a different direction. Either way, your content is the shit.
I think you'd still report your friend missing even if you were passing around the ganja stick. The way he acted sounded like someone black out drunk. Ive had nights like this where you split up from your friends group for no reason just to realize you're super lost and super drunk when you come out of the black out. Im very happy in my own situations that I never got injured, attacked, or arrested. This is why I just stick to beer and cannabis nowadays!
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In Dave Paulides movie missing 411 the hunted. I believe one of Tom's hunting buddies said he heard something he had never heard before, and that was the sound of metal clanking. Kind of like a metal door of some sort shutting closed. Definitely something is up and not right in this case!
On the last one, having jumped in water with my pants and shoes on, I can say it is much harder to swim with them on, especially if they are baggy pants. He may have fallen or been pushed in, then threw his shoes and pants onto the bank. As for what happened next…. Maybe he couldn’t climb out?
My only issue with missing411 cases is that I feel like people who research and analyze them look at relatively minor details of a case and then blow them up into something suspicious, but also disregard environmental reasons for such details. Case and point, a fully armed SWAT team with automatic rifles in one of these cases. I don't know why this seems suspicious, because when you take in the amount of people searching, and the potential likelihood of something like bears, drug growers, and the like, it makes sense that they'd bring out big guns. Though you could, I highly doubt you'd want to only have a bolt action hunting rifle if you're with a group of people and the local grizzly bear decided to have a go at them. Something that fires faster would certainly be more reassuring in that instance. Now, as for the FBI, though it isn't common for them to take an interest, at least openly in a case, that doesn't mean that it still isn't their job. And if the disappearance happens in a place that has a disproportionate amount of them, or potentially has a rather shady history, then there's only so far the FBI could reasonably ignore it they do have to do their job. And lastly, withholding items of the missing person. I can understand why this can be an issue, but bear in mind, a disappearance is still suspicious until the person or body is found. As a result, everything at the scene is evidence, and evidence isn't given away until the case is solved or closed permanently. After all, people touching items considered evidence tends to really be a large hindrance for investigators and can lead to dead ends, so until they can conclusively say the case is closed, the items are withheld because they could contain substantial evidence, and it simply just hasn't been found or detected yet. This doesn't mean suspicious or strange things happen in these cases; they absolutely do, but minor details being blown up tends to obscure the larger narrative and leads to conspiracy theories, which are just as if not more dangerous than anything in the woods.
I can understand the “open verdict”. If he was pushed or thrown into the water, he was murdered. If he slipped and fell into the water, it was an accident.
The story about Jalani Brinson, makes me wonder how clean were his socks when they found his body? Since his body had been in the pond for at least a couple of days, they must of been somewhat dirty from being on his body while it's decaying, and being in dirty pond water. Is it possible that he took his socks off too when he took his boots off? That's if it was him who took his boots off. But maybe when he took his boots off he ended up taking his socks off too, but didn't ditch them for some reason. Then maybe he put them back on and then fell in the water and the shock of the water caused him to dry drown. Even though they said he had died before he fell in the water. Maybe they were mistaken and just figured he had died before hand, since there wasn't water in his lungs when they found him. He was walking across a golf course, so maybe that's why his socks didn't seem dirty. But they're probably would of been grass stains on his socks, unless they weren't white socks and so the stains didn't show up. It seems like there could possible be foul play. But if he didn't have any injuries, and his toxicology screen was clean, then how could someone of killed him?
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Since he knew the lake area Was he having health or mental issues that created his disappearance? Has anyone looked for caves or holes that was near walking distance, Is there any where wildlife that may have got him? Or fell into lake causing drowning?
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It isn't "ejecting shells." It is "firing shots." Ejecting shells means they are working the action of the firearm to remove unfired cartridges from the firearm. It isn't just a semantical thing. The two things are very different. If he was "ejecting shells," that would mean he worked the action, thereby unloading, in essence, the firearms. Firing/shooting is not the same as ejecting. In one, you would only hear the mechanism of the firearm working. Not terribly loud and odd to do repeatedly. Firing would be WAY louder, and results in holes being formed in things. If you are using a firearm, you typically eject a shell to unload a firearm to make it safe. Firing a shell/cartridge is far different.
I think if the FBI was already investigating a kidnapping, human or drug trafficking, or something else, they would investigate just to make sure the cases weren’t related. I don’t think it is that weird for them to jump in. They would also be involved if it involved federal land. A second point is, to find a body officials need specially trained cadaver dogs. These are hard to come by and totally different from regular search dogs. Some places, like in the UK, have much stricter restrictions on human remains, which are needed to train the dogs. Pig remains do not do the job. I know they like to assume people are still alive - but if we had more of these dogs and employed them sooner we might find people sooner.
Why when u showed FBI graphics standing by black car in woods on Tom Messik case does the black car have 2 round lights on left side & 3 round headlights on wright side ? Is that a normal FBI vehicle ☝️🤔, or u just have creative license Adam? Great video as usual hun ive watched u for years now, & other similar channels im very familiar with alit of these cases now, i think irs obvious these people r being abducted, & the government know what & whos doing it, its been going on for hundreds of years.....
@Missing Void Story 2 Missing hunter/watcher & a strange noise like a trap door closing. An ET who posts 3 times a week in Spanish & English claimed that in North America the Sasquatch are known to hunt ppl for food, the Sasquatch live underground in natural tunnel systems all over. These Sasquatch frequently come above using something similar to that of a trap door spider's door but only much larger weighing over a ton or more. The fact that there were no wildlife in the area could be put down to Sasquatch hunting in the area or that they had driven all the wildlife out of that area because one of their entrances was nearby. The noise that the hunter heard may have been a trap door being closed after one or more of the Sasquatch's returning back into their tunnels with human food. One would need to research into deaths relating to Sasquatch attacks to see how often these things happen.
Its my belief that a faction of squatchs (Ones with red backlit eyes} are working with nefarious beings that are using cloaking/portal technology to abduct humans for all kinds of sickening purposes!! These so called Et's I believe are trestrial and have been here many thousands of years way before humans. Any way you cut it this whole thing is super fucked up and wrong!!
When your talking about Jalani Brinson, you bring up why his friends didn't contact emergency services when he walked away, and after they looked for him for like an hour. Most people aren't going to contact the police when an adult just walks away while in a neighborhood, and while nothing seems dangerous or that weird. Even if they had contacted the police and told them that their friend had just walked away, the police probably aren't going to do anything. I mean what are you really going to tell the police anyway? My friend decided to leave without saying goodbye, and walked away in the neighborhood and he's only been gone about an hour? Yeah, the police are probably just going to tell you that he's probably just gone home, or that he met up with someone else and left. Since he is a full grown adult without any known mental or handicap issues. Like the saying goes, hindsight is always 20/20. I'm sure his friends weren't that worried either. Because what are the chances that your friend walks away while in the middle of a neighborhood, then disappears and is then found dead? It's not that likely to happen. I've had friends do almost the same thing before and we weren't worried, and they've always ended up totally fine. Your thoughts on some of these things that happen are, how do I put this gently, just plain dumb. Not just with this case but on other cases too. It's like your forgetting that hindsight is always 20/20 like I said before. Or you say something like "that doesn't make sense why he would do that", but it's like you've forgotten that the person was drunk and high, like the guy who went missing in Manchester and was then found in the canal. The guy was drunk and high, so who knows what he was thinking, or why he might of done what he did.
Do you talk like you narrate? The cadence of your voice is as if you’re reading poetry. It’s interesting that people vanish around the world. Would be helpful if there was a worldwide database of vanished and missing people.
At 52:59 you say that it doesn't make any sense for him to of crossed over a bridge, then gone down the far side of the canal, and then to try and climb over a six foot fence. But you've got to remember he wasn't in the right state of mind. He was drinking, and he took some other sort of substance, some sort of pills I think you said. Whatever those pills might of been, whether it was xanax, pain killers like lortab, Percocet, etc, or ecstacy, muscle relaxant like somas, or barbiturates. Any of those drugs mixed with alcohol could definitely make you not think straight, possibly make you confused, and also lead to you falling in a canal and drowning. Also if he fell in the canal he could of sank to the bottom and then not come to the surface until his body filled with gases to bring him to the surface. He also could of dry drowned, which there would be no water in the lungs if that happened. Just the shock of the change in temperature from falling in water, plus possibly mixed with the alcohol and drugs could of caused that to happen. So I don't think there's that much of a mystery here, and I don't think there was a another person involved that killed him. Unless someone just pushed him in, and the shock of hitting the water while intoxicated caused dry drowning. But I really don't think someone pushed him in. I think it was just a sad case of misadventure while intoxicated.
You kept saying that since the FBI was there, there must have been foul play. But the statement you read explaining when and why they might get involved did not support that. The statement said that they would also get involved if asked by local authorities. And that's what happened. An 82 year old man with a vast array of health conditions walked alone to his post in the woods. It's not a big surprise how or why he ended up dead. People found his hardware in the woods and stole it. Or he fell with it into a sink hole or pond. Or it's still there under layers of leaves.
New to this whole 411 stuff and I’m sure there are more learned people about it than me so I just want to inquire about the searches for these folks that vanish. I agree that something unconventional is likely a foot but what? Anybody ever search using methods you wouldn’t think typical or expected to be used? The dog not smelling them is weird. I don’t know enuf about dogs to comment but I do know enuf to say sometimes people’s choice of words when they make a statement of fact has the effect of masking volumes of highly precise & specific information that can help get to the bottom of what’s really going on. Either that or teenagers have left me jaded.
Hello again, well let me start by asking a question. If you were to remove the 411 cases out of the national parks and the woods and place then on a urban area you would start to see cases like these that have been going on the last 20 or year now. let's assume that no one is going to take GHB knowingly so you start having cases like the two young men you talked about. In the US many young successful men have been missing from clubs with our their friends knowing when or how they left. They are missing for weeks or months and the search for them does nothing, dogs don't track them and they are found dead in water, but they have not been in the water or dead for the whole time missing, David P. Has covered several cases like this in the US and it sounds like it also going on in the UK Manchester area as well. It might be interesting to note that at least in the US GHB is not tested for during toxic screens at autopsies though there does seem to be some level of alcohol ingested before death, but they all had been at a bar with friends just before going missing so not a surprising fact. It's all very strange and seems to defy logic how these young men go missing without a trace.
It seems like so many people go missing (drown) in canals that they might even consider making the canals easier to get out of. Knowing where all the cameras are would make it very easy to commit crimes like pushing people into the canal. An official that is corrupt would be a good guess, if nothing else.
Somebody probably stole his gun and made it look like he was being irresponsible, but, it was actually the guy that really stole his equipment and locked his dogs in the camper. (just to confuse the issue) Hopefully he was not harmed. Somebody found him and maybe falsely befriended him, then took advantage of his kindness right there. (even possibly a Ranger or a Ranger impersonator!!!) Soo strange!!
High levels of GHB will cause someone to lose consciousness and possibly stop breathing or their heart stop beating. When combined with alcohol it will lead to a comma and death.
Hey all, unfortunately I've been sick since boxing day and my voice isn't fully back yet so I've put this compilation together. I'm hopefully going to be able to make new content in the next two weeks. I hope the new year has started better for you than it did for me!
Get well soon! I love your work! Have a great 2024!
Hi Adam!
Thank you for the compilation, I hope you feel better soon! Have a happy New Year!
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Feel better, bud! Thanks for the video!
Get well soon 💜
Get well soon,and thanks for the video 😊
Undressing during hypothermia is a shedding of clothes as they walk. They don't fold the clothes and leave them stacked under something.
Good point.
True & interesting point. 👍
Always exceptions to a rule but I agree, folding clothes takes intention and planning, doubtful that was the case here.
Thanks for all you do! Your narration and channel are both top notch. Have a great week.
Thank you! You have a great week too
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All hunters know or should know. That 3 consecutive shots mean that you are in distress, and need help.
Three is the magic number, SOS - an S is THREE dots, an O is THREE dashes, and the second S is THREE dots again, man made landmarks in form of a triangle etc
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It’s the magic number
Like the audio equivalent of SOS.
I love it when it says "an hour of strange disappearances", yet the video says its runs for an hour and 14 mins. Extra bonus! 😆👌
When I began to read your comment I started to roll my eyes because I was sure it was going to be a complaint about how it was only 56 mins (or something similar) so NOT an hour!! 😂 But, surprise! A decent, positive comment - these people still exist! 🎉 👏👏👏
Hello Adam, I hope for your speedy recovery with your voice. 🤗 It's terrible when you get sick and your voice goes, which is important for your content. Thank you for the eerie disappearances, they're so strange.
Don't ever underestimate the nonsensical uselessness of the RCMP! Just look at what they did (or rather didn't do) in the hunt for Bart Schleyer. And that's just one example! It doesn't surprise me one bit that they had skilled SAR folks cleaning up trash.
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Right, I mean these people came to help search for a lost human and you are worried about getting the field or whatever cleaned up. Eh?
Maybe Ray got out of the camper to relieve himself and locking the door to ensure the dogs not getting out, and then heard and saw something that led to his disappearance.
Scary to say the least.
Like a Dogman.
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The first story you cover in this episode is at least the third time i've heard of someone going missing in Canada and where the RCMP have either not bothered to look for the person very much, or they've done weird things, and been secretive while looking for that person. There was another story I heard where a guy was hunting and went missing, and when his friends reported him missing, the RCMP looked a little bit but then decided he wasn't there and that he had left. Even though the guy had been flown in in a float plane. So his friends went looking for him and found parts of his body I believe. Or they found some of his equipment proving that he hadn't just left. Then the RCMP came back and found his body, or the rest of it, or something along those lines. I can't remember the whole story exactly, but I do remember how badly the RCMP acted at the beginning of when the guy went missing. It seriously sounds like the RCMP is lazy, incompetent, and just completely unprofessional. Except for when they are in parades or do funerals for fallen comrades. Then their outfits are spick and span, and they act like they're professionals. Maybe they should spend less time making sure their uniforms are spotless, and spend more time doing their jobs, like they're supposed to. Complete jokes.
I’ve noticed law enforcement around the world does not care and will not put the work in to help the average person. But they love protecting property and rich folk
All law enforcement in the world is useless. Simply put,they don't care if they find you or not. They are just drawing a check and playing soldier.
I think you’re talking about Bart Schleyer, they didn’t even attempt to find him, another case is in Nahani valley in BC, two men gone missing and the rcmp did a really sloppy job investigating that too. They don’t even attempt looking for missing and murdered indigenous peoples I don’t really get it, is it they don’t know how to begin or maybe being on missing persons detail is where they assign the least experienced officers or that’s where they send them for punishment? I’m sure if we looked we’d find many more. If I was a cop I think I’d find it a challenging but interesting job and bringing closure to the families reward enough.
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Hi, Canadian here... you pretty much hit the nail on the head. The RCMP are nearly the most incompetent police I can think of. To the point that I know if myself or 1 of my l9ced one goes missing, is kidnapped or go forbid murdered... unless they catch the culprit red-handed or the evidence spells it out for them, the case will go unsolved. They have more important things to do, like hand out tinted window tickets.
Hope you feel better soon, Adam! Sending up a prayer for you. ❤
Missing Void I pray that you have a speedy recovery. I also would like to take this moment to let you know how much I enjoy ur channel. You are extremely talented and thorough,even adding updates when they are found. Thank you for the time spent and your obvious dedication to tell the stories of those missing…
I look forward to every new episode now that I've gone through all of them 😊. Your presentation of the information is easy to follow but also leads to new questions not yet answered. Can't wait!
Get well soon Adam. Always good content from you and good to hear more of the missing in UK. Thank you.
❤Awesome as always thanks get well soon!
Harrison lake is not in the middle of no where. It’s a very popular swimming and camping spot. Very close to civilization. South is Harrison Hot springs a village connected directly to the lake, and 45m by vehicle is several major cities.
Harrison lake although, is a very popular place for the loud party type campers and a popular shooting location. There is a lot of bear activity in that area. I don’t know how to explain it but in that area there is also a lot of locals that don’t want out of Towners to be camping there due to being loud and destructive.
Source: I live near by.
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Some of these disappearances remind me of all the wendigo stories I've heard they are so strange.
3 shots in a row indicates an emergency of some sort. He was am older guy, perhaps he felt chest pain, or had injured himself and the 3 shots were a plea for help?
In my time as a firefighter that searched for people, something as simple as a twisted ankle could be enough to get a person killed in the forest. Older people have more medical issues, and if you camp alone, there is no one to help you.
Dying over a sprained ankle is a sad way to go...never camp alone. A second person can go get help while you relax. Thats not even to mention what kind of dangerous stuff is out there just waiting for you to be alone, or fall asleep in your own camp.
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Adam, feel better soon and thanks for the video!!
This man is so epic! You are the GOAT no doubt. We really needed this.
Overconfidence is the outdoorsman's Achilles heel.
No doubt about it , makes one almost want to get lost ....
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Tom Messick case that man is underground, they needed to check out all those cave systems underground. Back in the 80's and early 90's we used to go caving and seen a lot of strange things in those caves and they go on for miles some go on to near by states. When Tom friend said he heard a strange noise in the woods that very day, they should have checked for trapdoors around his area he was last seen.
What strange things? Would love to know!
The story about Jelani: It's not strange that his friends didn't call the police just because he left. He was 24 years old. Someone that age who's visiting a friend's house doesn't need a reason to leave. He's an adult who can go where he wants to without explaining himself. It would be weird if a group of friends called the police just because someone left their house.
Another great compilation. Thanks for sharing
I don't think I've ever seen a competent search by the RCMP in any missing persons case I've looked into
Hey Adam glad you feeling better, you are the best, glad to hear that awesome voice again friend...😊
I love your videos. It's always interesting. I like these long format and the narration is great, without added noises or corny fake "spooky" voice.
The artwork used in your videos is great. Thanks for all the interesting stuff you upload!
i live in this area and i'll just state a few things there are illegal grow ops in the area ,you only would lock the dogs up for 2 reasons (animal or people threat). belongings not returned by RCMP usually means an open investigation.. grow ops sometimes guarded by armed people hence armed searching.
Seems this area you live in is dangerous 🤔
Good to hear from you Adam.
*Sorry you had a rough go @ the New Year.*
May you get well soon. 😇
Thank you for entertaining & informing us on these stories.
P.S. It is always a pleasure hearing from you about these cases that may/might have gone unnoticed.
"Take care & stay safe!!" 🦅
Get well soon fella. Cheers for the compo. Appreciated 🙌
TOM MESSICK was either NEVER THERE OR Taken underground 😮
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50, probably mostly drunk and/or high teens close by? That's a dangerous mix. Did they question any of them other than the ones that got shot at?
He didn't hear someone ejecting three shells. He heard someone firing three shots. The shell is ejected after a shot is fired.
Come on buddy......use that brain of yours....you can do it...
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29:20 Total shot in the dark (pun incoming): Considering that there were suspicions of foul play. The described "crack" could have been a suppressed shot. Even when suppressed, you can still hear the supersonic "crack" of a bullet passing the sound barrier (unless it's a subsonic bullet). To add to that, the direction of suppressed shots is often misjudged because the sound that actually reaches your ear might be an echo and not from the original position of the shot. Mountains and Hills have a tendency to "reflect" these supersonic cracks, so it might have sounded like it came from 150 yards up the hill, even though it was actually shot downhill.
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Another great video adam
I almost believe Thomas never made it to go hunting. Someone set something up in my opinion
I'm going straight from this video to Dark Curiosity so I can get my fill of beautiful Scottish accents. And as much as I like your voice there's nothing like having a Scottish woman's voice whispering in my ear.
Two things. One, there is such a thing as dry drowning. You drown without water getting in your lungs. I forget the exact mechanism. Your throat closes up or something and you get no air in but also no water. Two, the young men in Manchester's canals. There is noone caught pushing people into the canals. But, there is no images of the men falling into the canals. Neither the one or the other. Very perplexing. Thanks for another great video. Stay safe.🤗🤔
Awesome work bro. 😊
When you build mysteries out of thin air, story begins:"...he was 65..." HELLO, I have 35 and manage to loose myself in the mall 🤣
Who's "building mysteries out of thin air"?
YES/YES I live for these stories.... Thank you for all the content/ God Bless you and yours and Happy new year everyone...
Super interesting stuff.
Compilations are good! Hope you get back to 100% quickly!! Happy 2024!!!
I agree with you about the dogs.
The area around Harrison Lake have had many sightings of sasquatch
3 shots mean emergency.
@Missing Void
Story 1, Ray, leaving the dogs inside means that he went outside briefly perhaps a toilet break. If Ray was going to go for a walk he would have taken the dogs with him. Obviously something happened at the moment he was busy with a toilet break as he would have been easy prey if his pants were down around his ankles.Ray would not let his dogs out while he's doing a toilet break because they might run off into the woods.
Having a tactical response group on station means only one thing, there was a threat they were there to subdue. Forcing rescue parties to clean up trash means that they were kept out of the way of harm by either the threat or by friendly fire. The tactical response group was not interested in the disappearance of Ray, to them Ray would have been hunting signs for the threat they were after. If they found both Ray & the threat this tactical response group would have cleaned the area of all traces, Ray's cause of death would then become classified.
That’s scary when you read it..
But what threat could it be that you would need a swat team? That's freaky as hell
A dose of GHB can lead to Grape.🤔
That Voice Sounds Familiar...
~Where have I Heard it Before?!
Happy New year 🎉
Second to last case: GHB. As someone who is very familiar with this substance, once you take it you've got about 30 minutes before you are completely unconscious, that's why it's considered a "date rape" drug. He either wandered off as the GHB was kicking in which would account for his rambling walk all over the area and his subsequent falling into the shallow pond or he was abducted(Smiley Face Killers perhaps), drugged and possibly died due to the amount of GHB that was given to him and then dumped in the pond. Oh, and the reason his friends didn't call the cops is twofold: dude was 24 and they probably thought he just left cuz he was over it and this is the USA, it's not exactly safe for black folks to call the cops, for any reason, you've seen the videos on UA-cam, rarely works out for em. To me, that's not suspicious at all for the previous reasons given. Too many of these young men going missing and then ending up deceased in a random body of water to be a coincidence. Hinky af.
What's with the "ejecting shells"? Is it to sidestep UA-cam restrictions on saying "shooting into the air"? Genuinely curious.
Ray could have got the call that i always talk about. So many people have suddenly dropped what they are doing and disapeared off. But i think he felt he was under attack by god knows what. And took off to try and get away. Locking the dogs in the camper fits this idea. But i have no idea what it could be.
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Story 2: maybe Tom never even made it to his post and that's why the dogs couldn't pick up a scent
🤔💭...Dude I gotta say that I believe the Jelani's case was a frustating case to them. What a crazy puzzle dude! That is weird!
Hello, love your channel. Now I have heard of Tom Messick disappearance many times over the last years and regarding the FBI involvement, fist they had not been called in and the agents that were sent in was to ONLY document the search and any findings from it. The FBI has in fact shown up at many other missing persons cases that for into the 411 type cases for the same reason to doxument findings from any searches conducted. Now, it's also interesting that the main agent involved in those documented case to the FBI committed suicide some years later, just what the FBI was looking for and what they had known about what was involved in those cases was never clearly stated but it is supported that it troubled the agent that took his life.
Ray didn't lock those dogs away. Rays kidnappers did then threw him off the cliff onto the beach trying to kill him. When he survived the attempt murder he tried swimming away from them and drowned. Idk possible
In the missing hunter story, the description of that mystery noise sounds like it could have been a very well suppressed self-loading firearm. It’s a really pulpy explanation, but with big enough a suppressor the loudest sound from a shot is the gun’s action cycling, and the noise it makes is essentially the incredibly quick sound of the bolt slamming back and forth. It could also explain the fbi interest, if the suspected someone was out in the woods shooting people with a silenced weapon, even if that’s not what the sound turned out to have been.
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He may have left the dogs in the camper for their safety since it was night thinking they may run after whatever it was, or not be able to find them in the dark if they did go after "it".
If just doesn't sound like it was a human predator since Ray most likely could have handled a situation with a human.
As for some new content this year, dark, obscure, or scary rabbit holes are always a good watch. Also, abductions and or ufo sightings or cryptids. Although, those will probably steer the channel in a different direction. Either way, your content is the shit.
Its the Manchester Pusher at it again!
I think you'd still report your friend missing even if you were passing around the ganja stick. The way he acted sounded like someone black out drunk. Ive had nights like this where you split up from your friends group for no reason just to realize you're super lost and super drunk when you come out of the black out. Im very happy in my own situations that I never got injured, attacked, or arrested. This is why I just stick to beer and cannabis nowadays!
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In Dave Paulides movie missing 411 the hunted. I believe one of Tom's hunting buddies said he heard something he had never heard before, and that was the sound of metal clanking. Kind of like a metal door of some sort shutting closed. Definitely something is up and not right in this case!
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On the last one, having jumped in water with my pants and shoes on, I can say it is much harder to swim with them on, especially if they are baggy pants. He may have fallen or been pushed in, then threw his shoes and pants onto the bank. As for what happened next…. Maybe he couldn’t climb out?
My only issue with missing411 cases is that I feel like people who research and analyze them look at relatively minor details of a case and then blow them up into something suspicious, but also disregard environmental reasons for such details. Case and point, a fully armed SWAT team with automatic rifles in one of these cases. I don't know why this seems suspicious, because when you take in the amount of people searching, and the potential likelihood of something like bears, drug growers, and the like, it makes sense that they'd bring out big guns. Though you could, I highly doubt you'd want to only have a bolt action hunting rifle if you're with a group of people and the local grizzly bear decided to have a go at them. Something that fires faster would certainly be more reassuring in that instance. Now, as for the FBI, though it isn't common for them to take an interest, at least openly in a case, that doesn't mean that it still isn't their job. And if the disappearance happens in a place that has a disproportionate amount of them, or potentially has a rather shady history, then there's only so far the FBI could reasonably ignore it they do have to do their job. And lastly, withholding items of the missing person. I can understand why this can be an issue, but bear in mind, a disappearance is still suspicious until the person or body is found. As a result, everything at the scene is evidence, and evidence isn't given away until the case is solved or closed permanently. After all, people touching items considered evidence tends to really be a large hindrance for investigators and can lead to dead ends, so until they can conclusively say the case is closed, the items are withheld because they could contain substantial evidence, and it simply just hasn't been found or detected yet. This doesn't mean suspicious or strange things happen in these cases; they absolutely do, but minor details being blown up tends to obscure the larger narrative and leads to conspiracy theories, which are just as if not more dangerous than anything in the woods.
I can understand the “open verdict”. If he was pushed or thrown into the water, he was murdered. If he slipped and fell into the water, it was an accident.
This has been same as in Austin, many man & and a few women, they were drug & dump in the river & police say same there's no evidence 😢
The story about Jalani Brinson, makes me wonder how clean were his socks when they found his body? Since his body had been in the pond for at least a couple of days, they must of been somewhat dirty from being on his body while it's decaying, and being in dirty pond water. Is it possible that he took his socks off too when he took his boots off? That's if it was him who took his boots off. But maybe when he took his boots off he ended up taking his socks off too, but didn't ditch them for some reason. Then maybe he put them back on and then fell in the water and the shock of the water caused him to dry drown. Even though they said he had died before he fell in the water. Maybe they were mistaken and just figured he had died before hand, since there wasn't water in his lungs when they found him. He was walking across a golf course, so maybe that's why his socks didn't seem dirty. But they're probably would of been grass stains on his socks, unless they weren't white socks and so the stains didn't show up. It seems like there could possible be foul play. But if he didn't have any injuries, and his toxicology screen was clean, then how could someone of killed him?
This is driving me crazy. Firearms do eject shells but this is not synonymous with firing a round. One does not “eject a shell” into the sky.
You know what he meant stop being pickey and just enjoy the story and if that drives you crazy I think you need a little help 😂all the best from London England 👍🏴
Since he knew the lake area Was he having health or mental issues that created his disappearance? Has anyone looked for caves or holes that was near walking distance, Is there any where wildlife that may have got him? Or fell into lake causing drowning?
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It isn't "ejecting shells." It is "firing shots." Ejecting shells means they are working the action of the firearm to remove unfired cartridges from the firearm. It isn't just a semantical thing. The two things are very different.
If he was "ejecting shells," that would mean he worked the action, thereby unloading, in essence, the firearms. Firing/shooting is not the same as ejecting. In one, you would only hear the mechanism of the firearm working. Not terribly loud and odd to do repeatedly. Firing would be WAY louder, and results in holes being formed in things.
If you are using a firearm, you typically eject a shell to unload a firearm to make it safe. Firing a shell/cartridge is far different.
I think if the FBI was already investigating a kidnapping, human or drug trafficking, or something else, they would investigate just to make sure the cases weren’t related. I don’t think it is that weird for them to jump in. They would also be involved if it involved federal land.
A second point is, to find a body officials need specially trained cadaver dogs. These are hard to come by and totally different from regular search dogs. Some places, like in the UK, have much stricter restrictions on human remains, which are needed to train the dogs. Pig remains do not do the job. I know they like to assume people are still alive - but if we had more of these dogs and employed them sooner we might find people sooner.
Why when u showed FBI graphics standing by black car in woods on Tom Messik case does the black car have 2 round lights on left side & 3 round headlights on wright side ? Is that a normal FBI vehicle ☝️🤔, or u just have creative license Adam?
Great video as usual hun ive watched u for years now, & other similar channels im very familiar with alit of these cases now, i think irs obvious these people r being abducted, & the government know what & whos doing it, its been going on for hundreds of years.....
@Missing Void
Story 2 Missing hunter/watcher & a strange noise like a trap door closing. An ET who posts 3 times a week in Spanish & English claimed that in North America the Sasquatch are known to hunt ppl for food, the Sasquatch live underground in natural tunnel systems all over. These Sasquatch frequently come above using something similar to that of a trap door spider's door but only much larger weighing over a ton or more.
The fact that there were no wildlife in the area could be put down to Sasquatch hunting in the area or that they had driven all the wildlife out of that area because one of their entrances was nearby. The noise that the hunter heard may have been a trap door being closed after one or more of the Sasquatch's returning back into their tunnels with human food. One would need to research into deaths relating to Sasquatch attacks to see how often these things happen.
Its my belief that a faction of squatchs (Ones with red backlit eyes} are working with nefarious beings that are using cloaking/portal technology to abduct humans for all kinds of sickening purposes!! These so called Et's I believe are trestrial and have been here many thousands of years way before humans. Any way you cut it this whole thing is super fucked up and wrong!!
it's those watching us from above
When your talking about Jalani Brinson, you bring up why his friends didn't contact emergency services when he walked away, and after they looked for him for like an hour. Most people aren't going to contact the police when an adult just walks away while in a neighborhood, and while nothing seems dangerous or that weird. Even if they had contacted the police and told them that their friend had just walked away, the police probably aren't going to do anything. I mean what are you really going to tell the police anyway? My friend decided to leave without saying goodbye, and walked away in the neighborhood and he's only been gone about an hour? Yeah, the police are probably just going to tell you that he's probably just gone home, or that he met up with someone else and left. Since he is a full grown adult without any known mental or handicap issues. Like the saying goes, hindsight is always 20/20. I'm sure his friends weren't that worried either. Because what are the chances that your friend walks away while in the middle of a neighborhood, then disappears and is then found dead? It's not that likely to happen. I've had friends do almost the same thing before and we weren't worried, and they've always ended up totally fine. Your thoughts on some of these things that happen are, how do I put this gently, just plain dumb. Not just with this case but on other cases too. It's like your forgetting that hindsight is always 20/20 like I said before. Or you say something like "that doesn't make sense why he would do that", but it's like you've forgotten that the person was drunk and high, like the guy who went missing in Manchester and was then found in the canal. The guy was drunk and high, so who knows what he was thinking, or why he might of done what he did.
Did a sink hole get Thomas?
Do you talk like you narrate? The cadence of your voice is as if you’re reading poetry. It’s interesting that people vanish around the world. Would be helpful if there was a worldwide database of vanished and missing people.
At 52:59 you say that it doesn't make any sense for him to of crossed over a bridge, then gone down the far side of the canal, and then to try and climb over a six foot fence. But you've got to remember he wasn't in the right state of mind. He was drinking, and he took some other sort of substance, some sort of pills I think you said. Whatever those pills might of been, whether it was xanax, pain killers like lortab, Percocet, etc, or ecstacy, muscle relaxant like somas, or barbiturates. Any of those drugs mixed with alcohol could definitely make you not think straight, possibly make you confused, and also lead to you falling in a canal and drowning. Also if he fell in the canal he could of sank to the bottom and then not come to the surface until his body filled with gases to bring him to the surface. He also could of dry drowned, which there would be no water in the lungs if that happened. Just the shock of the change in temperature from falling in water, plus possibly mixed with the alcohol and drugs could of caused that to happen. So I don't think there's that much of a mystery here, and I don't think there was a another person involved that killed him. Unless someone just pushed him in, and the shock of hitting the water while intoxicated caused dry drowning. But I really don't think someone pushed him in. I think it was just a sad case of misadventure while intoxicated.
You kept saying that since the FBI was there, there must have been foul play. But the statement you read explaining when and why they might get involved did not support that. The statement said that they would also get involved if asked by local authorities. And that's what happened. An 82 year old man with a vast array of health conditions walked alone to his post in the woods. It's not a big surprise how or why he ended up dead. People found his hardware in the woods and stole it. Or he fell with it into a sink hole or pond. Or it's still there under layers of leaves.
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Ray....on top of a hill...reeks of beam me up scottie!
New to this whole 411 stuff and I’m sure there are more learned people about it than me so I just want to inquire about the searches for these folks that vanish. I agree that something unconventional is likely a foot but what? Anybody ever search using methods you wouldn’t think typical or expected to be used? The dog not smelling them is weird. I don’t know enuf about dogs to comment but I do know enuf to say sometimes people’s choice of words when they make a statement of fact has the effect of masking volumes of highly precise & specific information that can help get to the bottom of what’s really going on. Either that or teenagers have left me jaded.
Too bad the dogs can’t talk
Watch Missing Enigma instead of 411. 411 is selective in what facts are shared or emphasized.
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Hello again, well let me start by asking
a question. If you were to remove the 411 cases out of the national parks and the woods and place then on a urban area you would start to see cases like these that have been going on the last 20 or year now. let's assume that no one is going to take GHB knowingly so you start having cases like the two young men you talked about. In the US many young successful men have been missing from clubs with our their friends knowing when or how they left. They are missing for weeks or months and the search for them does nothing, dogs don't track them and they are found dead in water, but they have not been in the water or dead for the whole time missing, David P. Has covered several cases like this in the US and it sounds like it also going on in the UK Manchester area as well. It might be interesting to note that at least in the US GHB is not tested for during toxic screens at autopsies though there does seem to be some level of alcohol ingested before death, but they all had been at a bar with friends just before going missing so not a surprising fact. It's all very strange and seems to defy logic how these young men go missing without a trace.
It seems like so many people go missing (drown) in canals that they might even consider making the canals easier to get out of.
Knowing where all the cameras are would make it very easy to commit crimes like pushing people into the canal.
An official that is corrupt would be a good guess, if nothing else.
I'm about to go camping at Lily Pond 😐 for exactly this reason 👍 wish me luck 😂
Lily pond is where Tom Messick went missing. To me, THE craziest missing 411 story ever told
Tom Mesick fell into a bog,if you read the book Lost in the Wild you'll learn all about how people get lost as shit in Minnesota
Somebody probably stole his gun and made it look like he was being irresponsible, but, it was actually the guy that really stole his equipment and locked his dogs in the camper. (just to confuse the issue) Hopefully he was not harmed.
Somebody found him and maybe falsely befriended him, then took advantage of his kindness right there. (even possibly a Ranger or a Ranger impersonator!!!) Soo strange!!
what about Rays mate?
High levels of GHB will cause someone to lose consciousness and possibly stop breathing or their heart stop beating. When combined with alcohol it will lead to a comma and death.