@@rapscallionsnipeto the charge of mass genocide you are pleading “nuh uh”? Anakin frequently commits war crimes in his prime skywalker: nuh uh! Obi wan “WELL THEN YOU ARE LOST” kenobi: the fuck you mean nuh uh?!
Obi-Wan: Sorry your not being made a Master Anakin, but on the bright side enjoy that vacation to Mon-Cala I arranged for you and Senator Amidala suddenly. Seriously though, if it included Obi-Wan causing it... I could see Obi-Wan either worrying he would somehow cause it and he just couldn't believe Anakin would turn on his own... or putting enough pieces together to admit the possibility of Anakin turning because of something Padme related would get him to press Padme and him more or flat out admit he knows and make sure she's safe and alright. Darkhorse theory though, assuming Obi-Wan got the visions and not Anakin, then I'd assume Palpatine did it intentionally or the Force did. Either way Obi-Wan goes to Palpatine and does all he can to make sure Anakin doesn't get any military command and stays safe on Coruscant, but Anakin is left feeling Obi-Wan doesn't trust or beleive in him with how over protective he was and how dismissive of getting to take the Utapau command. Thus Anakin is more likely to go with Palpatine and not trust Obi-Wan.
I'm surprised Obi Wan didn't die again. So many what if scenarios end having Obi Wan die at Palptine's hand and I'm just happy to see someone not do that for once.
Yeah, I definitely like the idea of the symmetry and balance between Obi Wan and Anakin in their Mustafar battle being used against the emperor. Has a nice feel to it for sure.
Plot armor since the prequels couldn’t contradict the original trilogy. Like for example: Maul could have stepped on his hand instead of saber swiping as a taunt. If vader didn’t jump and just force gripped him in lava like the fire scene in the kenobi Disney series Or if tala hadn’t intervened But obviously it conflicts with episode 4 if he got the death he deserved
Honestly I don't thnk Anakin would be scared. I'd more expect like "What if Anakin had the time to calm down and reflect on Mustafar?" Or "What if Obi wan actually let Padme talk Anakin down instead of walking out" Him walking out escalated the situation and I feel like she could've broken through and pointed out how little sense "Kill all the Jedi for me, your new Sith buddy, and I'll save Padme from dying even though you never told me so it makes no sense I already knew unless I was doing it" Or even "What if Obi wan got through to him on the lava lake?"
@@lucasholmberg5708 Not yet he isn't. He's consciously doing everything because he feels like he's locked into the path after killing Windu and it's his only option to save Padme. There's plenty of scenes to show his conflicted emotions. Sidious knew what to say to string him along by saying that after what he did the Jedi will get in his way of saving Padme so he has to do this. Before she lands on Mustafar they show him crying about all that he's done and his talk to her is dark side delusions but also to convince himself. If Obi wan didn't walk out and actually let the conversation play out I'm fairly certain she could've gotten through to him. He only goes off the rails when he thinks she betrayed him after seeing Kenobi. During their fight Obi-wan takes blame and admonishes Anakin while reciting what he's been taught, but never asks why or use actual reasoning on him. Anakin isn't "truly lost" or robotic yet until he's in the suit and Padme is dead. Before that happens he's still in conflict with himself and can be Talk no Jutsu'd, just the only person who was trying got cut off.
I’d like a what if where they have actual proof of palpatines wrong doings as everyone here keeps forgetting that you’d have to prove it to anakin sure he killed windu however as far as anakin knows he went to the chancellor to have him arrested when he feels that sense he can save his wife and gets to the office he sees Jedi dead on the ground however this dosent mean the chancellor struck first as far as he knows the Jedi attempted a coup now you could say well isn’t that proof well no as you see they have zero legitimate grounds to arrest him for any reason only suspicion and sure he’s a Sith but can they prove that he was behind the war? No they had zero reason and no proof so again this is a coup not an arrest this is treason so anakin had every reason to cut down windu right then and there from a purely logical stand point and this is coming from anakins point of view On top of that this amounts to religious persecution if anything so again the Jedi were completely and totally in the wrong here
Anakin was always afraid. That's how the dark side controlled him. He was angry about being afraid and tried to use that anger to defeat the darkness in him, but it was always a trap to drag him further in.
@@Fordo007 That's kind of different though. The tuskens killed his mother and he was grieving. While killing all of them was a bad thing to do, emotionally it would make sense that she'd be more willing to forgive him there. This time he just killed a bunch of younglings because the evil sith lord told him to.
@@heheheha1997 it’s still a time when the dark side was clouding his mind. For force users not mastering the darkside it seems to be like an altered state like being effected by drugs.
If there's one thing I got from this video, its that star wars what ifs really grew up with me. If this was a video made by star wars theory in 2016, we'd probably have Obi Wan forgiving Anakin in a heartbeat and them killing the emperor, but life isn't that simple, neither in the real world, nor theirs and your video really brings that across. Tbf, them fighting Sidious IS what happens here, but the scenes in between matter a whole lot. The stories you write have a lot of maturity, at least when they're not completely off the rails and I appreciate that a lot Also Anakin being straight up ignored by Obi is weirdly nostalgic to me, funny enough. Reminds me of back when I was young. I'd do sw rps and sometimes everyone would just overlook my character lol
@@Lesbian.Monster.Hunterthe Republic killed his father, the Empire was the successor to the Republic, so Boba could side with the rebels as a way to avenge his father's death.
@cobaltcorsair592 the jedi killed his father, the empire killed and publicly shamed the jedi, that's why he sides with the empire, and I can't find a way to spin him hating the jedi that doesn't involve Palpatine trying to use boba as a new template for a clone army by force
This was a really good take. I recently went through a similar (not murderous) situation with my wife. I had anger and aggression issues that were unresolved through my childhood. So much so that I was thrown out. When I went to therapy I was truly able to heal. Now I’m back with my wife and my daughter. We’re more in love than we’ve ever been. This what if gives me perspective on how effective therapy and self improvement can truly be for all men. Thank you for doing this story and narration.
@@concept5631 I dunno, if Palpatine issues the order to the Coruscant Guard first he has very good odds. Even if the Senate issues 65 to the 501st.. and that's a big if as I'd say Papatine would do them right after, Palpatine could secure his own line of escape while eliminating a good amount of the Jedi and Senate Loyalists. The Jedi off world who weren't killed would have to rally whatever armies they had that were loyal while Palpatine on Coruscant could organize and elimiante and hunt down the Jedi-Senate forces one by one. The Jedi's best bet would be to transfer the Senate and command to the Temple so they could organize and call back their forces and let them know the full picture and who is left and where, and use the 501st and their fleet to protect their sector of Coruscant and hold out until reinforcements arrived while letting the Jedi and elite 501st detachments go out and hit Coruscant infrastructure and military facilities. At that point it would be a race of if the Jedi-Senate armies could link up and rally first or if Palpatine's could organize and pick them off or consolidate enough to take Coruscant completely. Which armies got the order and how many of each army got each order would play a big factor. If Cody got 66 but all his subordinates got 65, the army would still go to the Senate. Same with the reverse. And if the Jedi get loyal armies that are stuck way out in Outer Rim Sieges or still in hot zones with Seperatits and can't easily disengage while Palpatine takes all the low intensity forces... the Jedi-Senate are in a bad way very quickly. That said the best Jedi tended to have the outer-rim siege and Palpatine wanting to eliminate the most risk would likely try and issue orders to those forces first. Only after he encounters a commander who immediately says he's under arrest on the holo would he realize what is happening and then focus on gathering closer forces in bulk. How fast that would take is up in the air but I'd wager a 50/50 split on everyone in the Order 66 montage before it becomes every army in the Core for Palpatine and the Jedi-Senate getting everything in the Outer Rim and a decent amount of the Mid-Rim. Palpatine can just hold the Core and win in the longterm, especially if the take control of the Droid Army and then turn them on the Jedi and hold them in place on their worlds. Then the Republic Commandos, ARCS, and other special forces groups... whoever gets them is likely getting a big advantage. Given Palpatine's military doctrine... I'd wager the Jedi-Senate would likely get their loyalty. All in all I think this scenario actually makes it possible the CIS may be the ones dictating the peace at this point, especially if Palpatine unlocks their restrictions on droid production and lets them try to win. With Dooku and Grievous gone their military command is all but gone though, but surely someone competent would be there to take advantage.
Or order 67: all clone troopers are to immediately become independent contractors Or order 68: all clone troopers are to immediately retire and get a generous pension for life.
What if Shaak Ti survived and led a clone rebellion when the stormtrooper project decommissioned them, maybe join the rebellion or it’s created faster with their help?
What if the Force Ghosts of Satele Shan & Darth Marr trained Anakin? Got one of the greatest GrandMasters & one of the most open minded Sith Lords working together here
I think the problem is the thinks a therapist would advise don't really work for Force Users. Telling a force user to think about their anger and fear... 50% of the time will make a Force User go dark side and the dark side clouds judgement and removes inhibitions. Emotions to force users are dangerous and have to be carefully controlled to not lose control. The Jedi ways are strict and counter to good mental health... but it's either that or you have mini-Sith Lords going on rampages every other day.
@@Fordo007I actually think that those mini-Sith Lords going on rampages are precisely because they are strict and never actually try to understand and truly control their emotions. They just ignore them and put them behind bars and as they pile up you have a time bomb (terrible thing to do). If Force users learned how to cope and accept their emotions, they would be fine imo.
@@Fordo007actually that mentality backfired as it’s very obvious once you watch the movies that’s exactly what caused this situation in the first place as they went to very extreme lengths and it backfired hard and the only way would be to teach them how to deal with them as it comes control yes acknowledge it but don’t let it lead you or control you that’s what they should be doing instead and take a look at legends grand master Luke and his order it worked pretty damn well sure it wasn’t perfect but it was a lot better than this one
@@Fordo007 not really because here’s the thing the old order was almost annihilated and well we see how corrupt the Jedi were at this point they followed the will of politicians not the force so they hard count as Jedi sure I’m name but that’s it and like I said they almost go there whole order destroyed were as Luke’s order was able to adapt and overcome issues that the old order would be unable to adapt to and would have been killed off
What if Shaak Ti and the other Torgruta left with Ahsoka due to how poorly the council treated her. (This would be a huge wrench in Palpatines plan as a large force of force users would be active and not seen as Jedi as they had left the order, the Torgruta made up a good percentage of the order)
@@Anime_Jesusthey targeted maul too even though he was a sith. Though it would still make order 66 harder because they wouldn’t be able to easily locate all the force users.
Day 7: What if, Savage oppress reached his full potential. and never betrayed Count Dooku? What if Darth Bane returned during the Clone Wars? He receives a vision of Palpatine and is furious to the point where he either fakes his death and enters carbonite, awakening in the Clone Wars to stop him. Alternatively, with the help of Zannah, he gains immortality and trains for a thousand years on a distant planet until the Clone Wars. Or perhaps, both Bane and Zannah undertake this, tweaking the story to allow for both scenarios. Zannah kills Bane, and they secretly transfer his essence into a waiting body or create an illusion. This process repeats when Zannah's apprentice kills her.
Day 12 What if; Anakin never gave into his feelings for Padme, Aayla Secura was the chosen one and became Darth Talon, Shme Skywalker was adopted by the Tusken Raiders, Boba Fett saved his Tusken family, Count Dooku was a regular count for the CIS, Jabba the Hutt supported the Jedi at the Start of the Clone Wars, and finally, what if Sabine and Ezra fell in love?
I’m so proud I’ve gotten to see your UA-cam journey Pente Patrol, I remember finding your channel because I loved Star Wars what if’s and couldn’t really find any consistent uploads until I found you, I remember it was a month before the “What if? Anakin was never found” video and to see how much your channel has grown, I just can’t wait to see you reach 100,000🎉 subscribers, I bet, actually I know you’ll reach it before 2024, the only thing that can stop you now is just master skywalk- ope actually sorry I meant Skywalker because your not a master . . . . why are you pulling out your lightsaber anakin……. What I’m trying to say is, I’m very proud to have been able to see your journey, and that this reward you absolutely deserve for your creativity and ingenuity,
Honestly, Anakin should have seen a psychologist before Jedi training so he could let go of his slave past. That was a time bomb waiting to happen and any decent therapist would have made the Jedi go bring his mother to safety. I've seen some fanfics where that happens and the Jedi say we want to treat him like everyone else. The reply is he's not anyone, he's a former slave and if you won't put in the effort to give him the help he needs, you shouldn't have taken him.
Great point! They didn’t originally want to accept Anakin because he was too old and “emotional “. But then when the do accept him they don’t do anything to address his emotionality. They acknowledged it was a problem but chose not tin fix it.
I don’t think that would have help . The Jedi’s still didn’t like anakin from the beginning . Besides , the Jedi council causes his apprentice (Ashoka to leave ) . Anakin just wanted to be accepted instead he got treat it poorly and denied the rank of master when he actually deserved it . All this Jedi mentality of blocking emotion was their down fall. They should have teach Anakin to control his emotion instead of denying his emotions if that kind of makes sense .
I know some try to claim that Windu did trust Anakin and was just hard on him because he wanted him to learn but the movies don't support that. "I don't think the boy can handle it, I don't trust him." He didn't say something like I trust Anakin, but I think the stress is getting to him and I wish he'd pay attention. Also their's that tone with Ahsoka. "I'm sorry citizen." I would've bought that you shouldn't discuss things on holo with a nonjedi, it's the way he said it.
He had complete knowledge of jedi apathy. Of course he would reject the order when all they did was put him down while doing nothing to truly help anyone
@@seth3k We forget that maul survived a long ass fall without his other half (event though he is a night brother). We can keep this going on and on, but let's face it -- Mace could've attempted this at least.
I've often wonder what it would've been like had Anakin been in therapy when he first started training as a Jedi. One a side note I really like how Obi-Wan eventually met someone and had a family. I think he would've been a wonderful n caring family man.
What if Anakin was elected Supreme Chancellor during the clone wars? What if Palpatine was assassinated before he could win his elected to Supreme Chancellor during the Naboo crisis?
What if the Republic had actual checks on power (eg political parties, a cabinet, functioning senate, and a head of state [there's a chancellor but no president who is supposed to be the figurehead commander in chief]).
Day 7: What if Darth Zannah returned during the clone wars? All events transpire as normal, until Zannah`s apprentice kills her. It can be an illusion or essence transfer, either way Zannah survives, then enters stasis. She disobeyed the rule of two, because she saw a vision of palatine, believing him to be the one who would destroy the sith or she wanted to be the one who ruled the galaxy Alternate path: though this one makes Zannah ridiculously overpowered, fakes her death still, but instead of stasis, grants her self immortality due to her affinity of the arcane side of the force, trains for a thousand years on a distant planet. Reason for doing this: Her own power, or maybe she wants to be the final sith. First apprentice and last master and something like that. Or maybe this was the plan the whole time, but that involves tweaking bane and the rule of two itself.
Thrawn would actually fuck shit up in more ways than one depending on the timeline as he’d likely would have seen through palpatines manipulations eventually and ether would be killed or warn the Jedi and most likely expose the Sith Lord early and depending on if it’s legends continuity then he’d also heavily militarize the republic if he could prove that yes here’s the extra galactic invaders coming to butcher everyone
What if the Separatists built Skynet? What if Anakin Skywalker had visions of the Yuuzhang Vong Invasion? What if Maul was the Chosen One and he was raised as Mother Talzin’s successor?
Both of those kinda already happened? Mon mothma was a republic turned imperial senator then rebel leader And a deleted scene from ROTS had padme, bail, Mon and a few senators start a political plan against palpitine which would turn into the rebels later on
Listening to the beginning atm, one thing in particular I love is how Obi-Wan was a calming influence for Anakin. He viewed Anakin like a brother, but Anakin saw him as a father and idolized him. Palpatine knew this and did everything he could to form a rift between them. It was why he and Dooku wanted to slaughter Obi-Wan before Anakin's eyes to BREAK Anakin because Obi-Wan was the strongest tether Anakin had to not just the Jedi, but the Light side. It was why Palpatine manipulated events to have Obi-Wan away chasing Grievous. The only one who could have talked Anakin down was Obi-Wan, but by the time they saw each other again, Anakin had done too much, gone too far, and thought Obi-Wan was already dead. He figured since he had come this far, murdered children and near-non-combatants, his father figure and mentor would be nothing on top of that. And Obi-Wan had lost his life long family as a result of the boy he had raised. By the time they met again, the time for talk was long over, and it was all a part of Palpatine's plan. Here though, Obi-Wan is true to form. Calm, centered, and not attacking, only ready to defend. Whereas Anakin was usually his other half like a sword and shield, Anakin displays Obi-Wan's own characteristics by waiting, like a son imitating his father. And it works.
This is one of the best what if's i ever saw. It wasnt just a "oh yeah this is how their character would do it" it also accounts for people having feelings and how they sometimes make them act in ways they wouldnt typically do.
What if both Padme and Satine were jedi or sith? Would anakin and obiwan still fall for them? What if they were master and apprentice? What if padme was born on mandalore? What if palpatine was a sensible sith and raised maul like a beloved son and helped him reach his full potential?
i feel like this needs to be extended upon, like i want to know more about what happens between padme and anakin, and also what happened between them and obi wan, not just a few bits here and there.
I just thought of something: Obi Wan appearing on the ship foreshadows the end of the fight really well: Obi Wan looking down at his fallen appreciate in disappointment while having the high ground.
I have some suggestions: 1) What if the full potential+ Anakin that we see in Ahsoka as keeper of the World Between Worlds decided to go back to the beginning of Revenge of the Sith events and taking over his own past body but with all the knowledge and power he has now? Maybe he saw Palpatine surviving up to Episode 9 and decided he should do this. Its also possible that from his balanced perspective he sees that Order 66 is necessary to shake up the stagnant Jedi Order and corrupt Republic but a Sith Galactic Empire lasting 20 years whose defeat didnt even fully restored the Republic isnt. It would be so cool to see Anakin join Padme as the leader of this early new rebel alliance and defeat Sidious for good. An important data to consider, according to Imperial Law the one true power the Imperial Senate held was to crown the new Emperor should Palpatine die, this never happened because Palpatine dissolved the Senate with the Death Star complete, which broke the chain of command and led to a fractured New Republic. Here if he is defeated quickly enough the Senate can crown a new emperor who can then dissolve the Empire back into the Republic without having splintered factions like the First Order. But these are just my ideas I leave the story up to you the central premise is: Ahsoka's show Anakin goes back to his early ROTS body with the knowledge, wisdom and power he now has. 2) Same as before but this time rather than going personally he instead appears to end of Clone Wars Ahsoka. He will finish her training and she will do the job of the Chosen One being trained in both light and dark and lead an early rebellion to defeat Sidious. Remember Ahsoka has the life force of the Daughter and with WBW Anakin as her master she could certainly grow to defeat Sidious. When she is ready Anakin could even direct her to Bath on the Pool of Knowledge and Font of power, but because of Anakin overseeing the process and Ahsoka already having the Daughter's life and her training, she will not twist like Abeloth, but become a being of balance, ready to lay the smackdown on Sidious and lead the rebel seemingly impossible assault on Coruscant. Makes way more sense than Rey anyway. 3) What if Darth Tenebrous took Anakin's body? This was actually Tenebrous's ultimate plan and I have never seen a WI on it. He just failed because when he entered Plagueis's body he saw a futufe vision of Plagueis being killed by Palpatine, assumed he would never get to meet the Chosen One and panicked shooting himself out of Plagueis prematurely and getting trapped in a time loop. So, what if he didnt panicked and waited until the time Plageuis atually saw Anakin in the distance and shot himself at him? Tenebrous's possession was not Essence Transfer, it was more insidious, moving his midichlorians (who he modified into "maxchlorians") like a virus. So rather than taking over Anakin by force like would in Essence Transfer, he starts by increasing Anakin's power when he use the darkside and allows Sidious to do the heavy lifting forming his Empire, Anakin is way more powerful during the assault on the temple and Mustafar using, to the worry of Sidious, powers only advanced Sith can use like lighting. Then finally on Mustafar he hears a whisper telling him to open himself to the darkside fully so he can finally save Padme, Anankin does believing it to be his own darkside and Tebebrous finally takes him over. 4) What if Maul rather than sulking or just limiting himself to the underworld after the formation of the Galactic Empire spent his time training, went to Dathomir to learn from the Nightsisters (his potential was greater than Talzin) and he finally one day he shows up to overthrow Sidious? 5) What if after defeating Anakin, Obi-Wan realizing where he was reactivated the Droid Army on Mustafar but making it fully loyal to the Jedi like the Clones are loyal to Sidious? The Clone Wars continue with the Jedi remaining joining the seppies now without the influence of the Sith or the corrupt corporate council. Now Palpatine is in trouble because he has no puppet leading them and has been blocked from the command codes by Kenobi. And unlike Dooku the Jedi will not gimp the droid army's potential, like the fact it takes minutes to fabricate droids as opposed to years or months to train a clone or conscript. Leaders like Mon Mothma and Bail could also join on the condition that rather than secede they will restore the Republic on more fair terms, the Separatist Senate agrees. 6) What if rather than destroying it, Vader used Momin's portal to regain his uninjured body like Momin himself did? 7) There was a crucial moment between Palpatine telling Sidioud and Windu coming to arrest him when Order 66 was in danger. What if Windu before arresting Palpatine or Anskin out of guilt over what he might do contacted the full Jedi Council on Sidioud, they do 1+1 on Fives situation and decide that the clones are really dangerous as long as Palpatine is their Supreme Commander, so they give the general order to all the Jedi to discreetly leave all battlefields which were being won anyways and gather and evacuate the Temple? So all the 10,000-ish Jedi escape. Anakin turns, Order 66 is given but there are... no Jedi to execute them all. No Temple to send Anakin to kill the Jedi and immerse him into the darkside fully, just the Separatist Council. The Empire still forms but Sidious now has to face his worst nightmare of an open war with a nearly full and organized Jedi Order. Perhaps with this, seeing they have a chance, the Delegation of 2000 founds the Rebel Alliance early, with Padme, Bail or Mothma declaring the rebellion, detailing how Palpatine played both sides and calling all citizens who doesnt want to live under Palpatine's autocratic unaccountable rule to follow them.
What's funny is how we got what I think is the GOAT lightsaber fight (between Anakin and Obi-Wan) is Obi-Wan's stupidity standing there at the top of the ship's ramp, which made Anakin think Padmé was betraying him, and even worse, Obi-Wan later igniting his lightsaber and provoking Anakin to do the same. If Obi-Wan hadn't done any of those things, I think Anakin wouldn't have choked Padmé, and he could've even been brought back to the light.
What if the Bendu trained Luke Skywalker? What if Luke and Leia were both sent to Tattooine? What if Ahsoka Tano trained Mara Jade Skywalker instead of Sabine wren? What if grogu founded his own group of force sensitive mandalorians? What if Anakin Skywalker was a gray Jedi and started his own force group? What if Luke Skywalker met Padme’s family? What if All characters in Star Wars had their genders swapped?
I’m not sure how Bendu would Luke Skywalker. Perhaps he would of been called to Bendu instead of Yoda. Though Luke would only have lightsaber training from Ben Kenobi.
First video I've seen from you and wow this is exciting to listen to. Incredible writing. It got a bit slow towards the end, but everything just felt right.
Okay this I was very good I did enjoy it I do wish you was a lot longer I hope you come back make a park 2 to it and keep up the good work and may the force be with you
For your next star wars what if, i think you should do "what if anakin trained padmé" this is a what if i was thinking of and i think it could be a win win for both Anakin and Padmé cause padmé could defend herself and Anakin eould have a new student
Day 7: What if Darth Zannah trained Anakin Skywalker/Luke Skywalker? How would this happen: All events transpire as normal until Zannah's apprentice kills her. It can be an illusion. Then she enters stasis. She awakens shortly before or after Anakin is born, uses her sorcery to conceal her signature, becomes a Jedi, and later becomes his master. Alternatively, adjust events to fit Luke Skywalker instead. Alternate path: Although this makes Zannah a bit overpowered, she fakes her death and, instead of entering stasis, grants herself immortality due to her affinity for the arcane side of the Force. She trains for a thousand years on a distant planet until Anakin or Luke is born. Reason for doing this: She believes that Anakin or Luke is the answer to the grand plan(Bane`s or perhaps her own, maybe she wants to kill Abeloth or something) and considers herself the perfect teacher for them.
(Serious plot) _What if General Grievous was born as a Force-sensitive being and trained under Dooku as an apprentice?_ (Satire) _What if Darth Sidious offered the galaxys finest cookies for the jedi to join the empire?_
Grievous's force sensitivity wouldn't matter. He was a pair of lungs, a heart, brain and eyes encaged in armor. Even if he was force sensitive it wouldn't matter anymore because he's literally just a group of organs so all his midichlorians are just gone
@auroa9854 He was formerly known as _Qymaen jai Sheelal_ before he turned to Dooku and Palpatine to avenge his people's death by becoming the cybernetic Warlord we know as General Grievous. He was an accomplished sniper during his teen years, gaining the nickname, "grievous," due to it. If he was Force-sensitive during this time, both the jedi and the sith would sense it. And with how Qymaen approached the two sith lords, it'd make sense that Dooku would take him in as an apprentice and there'd be no need for him to cyberize.
What if Darth Zannah faked her death, froze her self in carbonate and returned during the clone wars, pretending to be a Jedi (she had the ability to full cloak her dark side power to seem like a Jedi), and Trained Anakin
What if Anakin vowed loyalty to the Zygerrian queen What if Anakin was accused of the bombing at the Jedi temple What if Anakin trained Ezra What if Ezra saved Mace Windu What if Ashoka fell in love with Anakin, but he didn't fall in love with her What if Ezra and Leia fell in love What if Dooku didn't go to Zygerria and Anakin couldn't escape
Good questions! I think if Anakin vowed loyalty for the zygererrian queen and couldn’t leave things would’ve gone dark very fast. Ashoka and obi wan wouldn’t escape and the queen would probably break them and turn them into a Jedi army which would cause war between zygerria and the republic while they were still at war with the separatists. Maybe the republic would just decide three Jedi weren’t worth the battle. I read a fanfic where Obi-Wan was framed for the binging but not Anakin. That’s a good question though. He was a favored knight and Public figure so I doubt he would be convicted or thoroughly punished. Ashoka was convicted because she was essentially a disposable padawan and they needed senate and public approval. Though I don’t doubt palpatine would somehow use the bombings and anakin’s framing to turn Anakin further against the Jedi council.
One thing about that theory with Ezra saving windu, Ezra was born on Empire Day, an event that was established after the fall of the republic, the day Mace Windu was killed.
Really crazy What If idea: What if the Transformers crash landed in the Star Wars galaxy instead of Earth? I'd absolutely love to see a full on series done (similar to the sith return during the Clone Wars) where the great Cybertronian Civil War between the Autobots and Decepticons picked up in the Star Wars galaxy instead of Earth.
This was bittersweet.. I enjoyed every second of it! Especially how Obi-Wan was able to find happiness through it all. Takes strength to be able to forgive someone for destroying everything that you had held dear.
What if Vader found Anakin's severed right arm preserved for palpatine's cloning program and managed to reincorporate it with his remaining flesh and cybernetics?
What if Bo-Katan was closely related to Darth Revan (skipped generations) and she's been having visions of him, before Maul arrived to Mandalore and after the events of the Death Watch attacking the village.
What if idea: What if plo Koon trained anikin same timeline as the original however how the training of anikin by plo would affect anikins actions in attack of the clones, through out the clone wars and how the growth in the force affected the war effort, and then what would happen in revenge of the Sith. I feel like you could really go into deep detail about this theory as I feel that plo would have been the best possible teacher for anikin. Definitely could be one of the longer videos
Plo was indeed the Best Teacher Anakin could have had, aside from Revan or Meetra Surik. Honestly, Surik would likely have been better due to all she went through during the Dark Wars era that KOTOR II is set in, as she knew how to Deal With the Traumas that had hindered her previously.
@@theseekerofancienttruth3873i feel like if plo trained anakin, he would have told plo instead of Yoda, and if plo was his master he probably wouldn't have been shot down by the clones.
What If Anakin RESCINDED Order 66? As Palpatine's personal representative, he would technically have access to that same command; maybe Anakin came to his senses, embraced the light side of the Force, and told the 501st to not only withdraw from attacking, but to also protect the Jedi temple at all costs.
What if Yoda started having visions of Corusant imploding on itself? What if the train heist in Solo went without a problem? What if Naboo's bigger fish attacked in the Battle of Naboo? Crossover: What if Obi-Wan's fleet found a wormhole to another part of space and the first ship they encountered was the USS Cerritos? What if Ben Solo wasn't Force sensitive? What if Omega left the Bad Batch in Season 1? What if the holonet found and exposed Palpatine as the Sith Lord during the Clone Wars? What if Owen and Beru took Luke and moved off of Tatooine? Crossover: What if Anakin, as a Padawan, tinkered in his spare time and created a group of loyal droids that developed actual intelligence and emotions, leading to his team not only fighting in the Clone Wars, but actually listening to concerns and stuff? What if Kanan and Hera found Obi-Wan? What if a tear in the timeline occurred, forcing a young Obi-Wan to travel forward to a different version of A New Hope? What if Han listened to Leia about her concerns on Bespin? What if R2-D2 made a copy of C-3P0's memory at the end of Revenge of the Sith? What if Jocasta Nu was more perceptive than she appeared? Crossover: What if Obi-Wan trained Anakin away from the Jedi Temple and instead used a place filled with artifacts too dangerous for anyone to use and almost an infinite amount of rooms, despite the size of this house of mystery? What if Padmé was the one mortally wounded instead of her body double in Attack of the Clones? Silly: What if Obi-Wan finds a tear in reality, causing the LEGO Star Wars universe to appear? What if Obi-Wan met Omega when he arrived at Kamino? What if Rex and Cody arrived at Rischi Station before the Seperatists? What if Lando wasn't as much of a smooth talker as he thought he was? Crossover: What if on route to Tatooine with Luke, Obi-Wan comes across an oddly shaped station occupied by four very different robots with attitudes and a lone human that is only believed to be legend, Mike Nelson Destroyer of Worlds? What if Chopper was also armed with blasters? What if Satine grew tired of being treated as a joke, and decided to take out Death Watch herself? Crossover: What if Obi-Wan took Luke and Leia and hid them on Earth in a crazy little town called Eureka, Oregon, with Obi-Wan becoming the sheriff of the town? What if Obi-Wan and Luke knew about the spy following them at Mos Eisley? (If there are any you particularly liked or want some clarification, please let me know and also please be polite.)
Obi Wan:“Only a Sith deals in absolutes…I will do what I must.”
Anakin: “Nope”
Obi: “Fuck you mean no?”
😂😂😂
Anakin: Nuh uh.
Obi wan: The fuck you mean nuh uh!?
@@rapscallionsnipeto the charge of mass genocide you are pleading “nuh uh”?
Anakin frequently commits war crimes in his prime skywalker: nuh uh!
Obi wan “WELL THEN YOU ARE LOST” kenobi: the fuck you mean nuh uh?!
@@Voltar_99 Anakin it’s not a war crime if it’s against droids skywalker 😂
@@rapscallionsnipelol I remember that reference 😂
What if Obi Wan had nightmares of Anakin burning in Mustafar. So instead of Anakin having nightmares, it was Obi Wan
Obi-Wan: Sorry your not being made a Master Anakin, but on the bright side enjoy that vacation to Mon-Cala I arranged for you and Senator Amidala suddenly.
Seriously though, if it included Obi-Wan causing it... I could see Obi-Wan either worrying he would somehow cause it and he just couldn't believe Anakin would turn on his own... or putting enough pieces together to admit the possibility of Anakin turning because of something Padme related would get him to press Padme and him more or flat out admit he knows and make sure she's safe and alright.
Darkhorse theory though, assuming Obi-Wan got the visions and not Anakin, then I'd assume Palpatine did it intentionally or the Force did. Either way Obi-Wan goes to Palpatine and does all he can to make sure Anakin doesn't get any military command and stays safe on Coruscant, but Anakin is left feeling Obi-Wan doesn't trust or beleive in him with how over protective he was and how dismissive of getting to take the Utapau command. Thus Anakin is more likely to go with Palpatine and not trust Obi-Wan.
then only obi wans new powers could save anakin, “ignites lightsaber and backflips towards padme to fight her to the death’
then Obi Wan would've done everything in his power to prevent Anakin's demise
@@topbloke1683 lmao
Bro you're not gonna believe this...
I'm surprised Obi Wan didn't die again. So many what if scenarios end having Obi Wan die at Palptine's hand and I'm just happy to see someone not do that for once.
or padme dies
@@RandmGuy Thing is its probably what would happen.
Yeah, I definitely like the idea of the symmetry and balance between Obi Wan and Anakin in their Mustafar battle being used against the emperor. Has a nice feel to it for sure.
Plot armor since the prequels couldn’t contradict the original trilogy.
Like for example:
Maul could have stepped on his hand instead of saber swiping as a taunt.
If vader didn’t jump and just force gripped him in lava like the fire scene in the kenobi Disney series
Or if tala hadn’t intervened
But obviously it conflicts with episode 4 if he got the death he deserved
What if literally everyone in the clone wars went to therapy
Less deaths. More redemption. 🤗
if therapists existed in the Star Wars universe
Maybe a AI for that
Beta
They’d all end their relationships and disown their parents.
Honestly I don't thnk Anakin would be scared. I'd more expect like "What if Anakin had the time to calm down and reflect on Mustafar?" Or "What if Obi wan actually let Padme talk Anakin down instead of walking out"
Him walking out escalated the situation and I feel like she could've broken through and pointed out how little sense "Kill all the Jedi for me, your new Sith buddy, and I'll save Padme from dying even though you never told me so it makes no sense I already knew unless I was doing it"
Or even "What if Obi wan got through to him on the lava lake?"
I think its unlikely Anakin would calm down howere long he was alone, at this point he was just a robot doing what Sidious told him.
@@lucasholmberg5708 Not yet he isn't. He's consciously doing everything because he feels like he's locked into the path after killing Windu and it's his only option to save Padme. There's plenty of scenes to show his conflicted emotions. Sidious knew what to say to string him along by saying that after what he did the Jedi will get in his way of saving Padme so he has to do this. Before she lands on Mustafar they show him crying about all that he's done and his talk to her is dark side delusions but also to convince himself. If Obi wan didn't walk out and actually let the conversation play out I'm fairly certain she could've gotten through to him. He only goes off the rails when he thinks she betrayed him after seeing Kenobi. During their fight Obi-wan takes blame and admonishes Anakin while reciting what he's been taught, but never asks why or use actual reasoning on him.
Anakin isn't "truly lost" or robotic yet until he's in the suit and Padme is dead. Before that happens he's still in conflict with himself and can be Talk no Jutsu'd, just the only person who was trying got cut off.
Obi-Wan did very little to calm Anakin down in Episode III.
I’d like a what if where they have actual proof of palpatines wrong doings as everyone here keeps forgetting that you’d have to prove it to anakin sure he killed windu however as far as anakin knows he went to the chancellor to have him arrested when he feels that sense he can save his wife and gets to the office he sees Jedi dead on the ground however this dosent mean the chancellor struck first as far as he knows the Jedi attempted a coup now you could say well isn’t that proof well no as you see they have zero legitimate grounds to arrest him for any reason only suspicion and sure he’s a Sith but can they prove that he was behind the war? No they had zero reason and no proof so again this is a coup not an arrest this is treason so anakin had every reason to cut down windu right then and there from a purely logical stand point and this is coming from anakins point of view
On top of that this amounts to religious persecution if anything so again the Jedi were completely and totally in the wrong here
Anakin was always afraid. That's how the dark side controlled him. He was angry about being afraid and tried to use that anger to defeat the darkness in him, but it was always a trap to drag him further in.
What if Dooku made sure the Battle-droids never targeted Civilians?
Yes.
That sounds interesting
Thats something he would do
Then hamas would hide behind them, I mean the Jedi
How would it change Din Djarin’s story?
"Obiwan was here to give 1 final lesson." Man, that hits.
Anakin would *never* consider sitting on a beach, *surrounded by sand* on all sides, to be relaxing.
it said beech, a type of tree. he would enjoy the feel of wood.
Coming to terms with his dislike for sand represents an important start to his mental recovery.
Rocky beach, not a grain of sand in sight
Padme was extremely forgiving to her husband especially after the purge.
Well she already knew what he did to the Tuskens, she kind of gave a precedent there that she'd forgive him for having those 'dark side lapses'
@@Fordo007 true
@@Fordo007 one hell of a dark side lapse he did in coruscant and she still would have forgiven him if he didn't became so twisted in the canon story.
@@Fordo007 That's kind of different though. The tuskens killed his mother and he was grieving. While killing all of them was a bad thing to do, emotionally it would make sense that she'd be more willing to forgive him there. This time he just killed a bunch of younglings because the evil sith lord told him to.
@@heheheha1997 it’s still a time when the dark side was clouding his mind. For force users not mastering the darkside it seems to be like an altered state like being effected by drugs.
If there's one thing I got from this video, its that star wars what ifs really grew up with me.
If this was a video made by star wars theory in 2016, we'd probably have Obi Wan forgiving Anakin in a heartbeat and them killing the emperor, but life isn't that simple, neither in the real world, nor theirs and your video really brings that across.
Tbf, them fighting Sidious IS what happens here, but the scenes in between matter a whole lot.
The stories you write have a lot of maturity, at least when they're not completely off the rails and I appreciate that a lot
Also Anakin being straight up ignored by Obi is weirdly nostalgic to me, funny enough. Reminds me of back when I was young. I'd do sw rps and sometimes everyone would just overlook my character lol
Alternative title if anakin used even 5 percent of his intelligence in this scene
this is where the fun begins
I have a bad feeling about this
@@Horizon_Flyerhold on, this whole operation was your idea
@@guy- General Grievous you're shorter than I expected
Visible confusion (a commen that does not start what if) suprise to be sure but a welcome one
@@newiqq3570 I am the Senate
What if Boba Fett was hired by the Rebellion and they kept him on their payroll for all of the original trilogy as a commissioned officer?
Good Boba
The empire would always pay better, so Boba would need to be sympathetic toward the rebellion in the first place.
@@theguybehindyou4762or hate the republic/empire more than he doesn't care for the rebellion
@@Lesbian.Monster.Hunterthe Republic killed his father, the Empire was the successor to the Republic, so Boba could side with the rebels as a way to avenge his father's death.
@cobaltcorsair592 the jedi killed his father, the empire killed and publicly shamed the jedi, that's why he sides with the empire, and I can't find a way to spin him hating the jedi that doesn't involve Palpatine trying to use boba as a new template for a clone army by force
This was a really good take.
I recently went through a similar (not murderous) situation with my wife. I had anger and aggression issues that were unresolved through my childhood. So much so that I was thrown out. When I went to therapy I was truly able to heal. Now I’m back with my wife and my daughter. We’re more in love than we’ve ever been.
This what if gives me perspective on how effective therapy and self improvement can truly be for all men. Thank you for doing this story and narration.
Happy to hear that your story have a good ending, live a nice life and enjoy your time with your family
May the force be with you
cap
@@JackBright8899 just because it's unimagineable for you to ever produce offspring doesn't mean other people don't have kids
@@DumplingDoodle brother for all we know it could be a bot people do this all the time
What if Order 66 and 65 are issued at the same time by Palpatine and the Senate Security Council causing a Clone Civil War?
Palpatine: *"Fuck."*
@@concept5631 I dunno, if Palpatine issues the order to the Coruscant Guard first he has very good odds. Even if the Senate issues 65 to the 501st.. and that's a big if as I'd say Papatine would do them right after, Palpatine could secure his own line of escape while eliminating a good amount of the Jedi and Senate Loyalists. The Jedi off world who weren't killed would have to rally whatever armies they had that were loyal while Palpatine on Coruscant could organize and elimiante and hunt down the Jedi-Senate forces one by one.
The Jedi's best bet would be to transfer the Senate and command to the Temple so they could organize and call back their forces and let them know the full picture and who is left and where, and use the 501st and their fleet to protect their sector of Coruscant and hold out until reinforcements arrived while letting the Jedi and elite 501st detachments go out and hit Coruscant infrastructure and military facilities.
At that point it would be a race of if the Jedi-Senate armies could link up and rally first or if Palpatine's could organize and pick them off or consolidate enough to take Coruscant completely.
Which armies got the order and how many of each army got each order would play a big factor. If Cody got 66 but all his subordinates got 65, the army would still go to the Senate. Same with the reverse. And if the Jedi get loyal armies that are stuck way out in Outer Rim Sieges or still in hot zones with Seperatits and can't easily disengage while Palpatine takes all the low intensity forces... the Jedi-Senate are in a bad way very quickly.
That said the best Jedi tended to have the outer-rim siege and Palpatine wanting to eliminate the most risk would likely try and issue orders to those forces first. Only after he encounters a commander who immediately says he's under arrest on the holo would he realize what is happening and then focus on gathering closer forces in bulk. How fast that would take is up in the air but I'd wager a 50/50 split on everyone in the Order 66 montage before it becomes every army in the Core for Palpatine and the Jedi-Senate getting everything in the Outer Rim and a decent amount of the Mid-Rim. Palpatine can just hold the Core and win in the longterm, especially if the take control of the Droid Army and then turn them on the Jedi and hold them in place on their worlds.
Then the Republic Commandos, ARCS, and other special forces groups... whoever gets them is likely getting a big advantage. Given Palpatine's military doctrine... I'd wager the Jedi-Senate would likely get their loyalty.
All in all I think this scenario actually makes it possible the CIS may be the ones dictating the peace at this point, especially if Palpatine unlocks their restrictions on droid production and lets them try to win. With Dooku and Grievous gone their military command is all but gone though, but surely someone competent would be there to take advantage.
Or order 67: all clone troopers are to immediately become independent contractors
Or order 68: all clone troopers are to immediately retire and get a generous pension for life.
@@Fordo007 Still not as ideal as the main timeline
@@concept5631 oh sure. But interesting nonetheless, for me at least.
What if Shaak Ti survived and led a clone rebellion when the stormtrooper project decommissioned them, maybe join the rebellion or it’s created faster with their help?
O with the anti-clones?
What if the Force Ghosts of Satele Shan & Darth Marr trained Anakin?
Got one of the greatest GrandMasters & one of the most open minded Sith Lords working together here
I kinda like this ending for obiwan he is such a selfless character to see him finally putting himself first is nice.
What if Anakin Got (Emotional/Psychological) Therapy?
Seriously, are there no therapists within or without for Jedi, or even Force users?
I think the problem is the thinks a therapist would advise don't really work for Force Users. Telling a force user to think about their anger and fear... 50% of the time will make a Force User go dark side and the dark side clouds judgement and removes inhibitions.
Emotions to force users are dangerous and have to be carefully controlled to not lose control. The Jedi ways are strict and counter to good mental health... but it's either that or you have mini-Sith Lords going on rampages every other day.
@@Fordo007I actually think that those mini-Sith Lords going on rampages are precisely because they are strict and never actually try to understand and truly control their emotions. They just ignore them and put them behind bars and as they pile up you have a time bomb (terrible thing to do). If Force users learned how to cope and accept their emotions, they would be fine imo.
@@Fordo007actually that mentality backfired as it’s very obvious once you watch the movies that’s exactly what caused this situation in the first place as they went to very extreme lengths and it backfired hard and the only way would be to teach them how to deal with them as it comes control yes acknowledge it but don’t let it lead you or control you that’s what they should be doing instead and take a look at legends grand master Luke and his order it worked pretty damn well sure it wasn’t perfect but it was a lot better than this one
@@Followerofchrist221 Luke’s order was plagued with members going dark though, a lot more than the old order had.
@@Fordo007 not really because here’s the thing the old order was almost annihilated and well we see how corrupt the Jedi were at this point they followed the will of politicians not the force so they hard count as Jedi sure I’m name but that’s it and like I said they almost go there whole order destroyed were as Luke’s order was able to adapt and overcome issues that the old order would be unable to adapt to and would have been killed off
What if Shaak Ti and the other Torgruta left with Ahsoka due to how poorly the council treated her.
(This would be a huge wrench in Palpatines plan as a large force of force users would be active and not seen as Jedi as they had left the order, the Torgruta made up a good percentage of the order)
Not entirely true. When 66 came down Rex and the others still targeted her even though she was legally a civy, not a Jedi
That's note a bad story idea
@@Anime_Jesusthey targeted maul too even though he was a sith. Though it would still make order 66 harder because they wouldn’t be able to easily locate all the force users.
@@victoriaanne6332 exactly the point I was making. Thank you for the backup.
He would eventually blow the whole planet up
Day 7:
What if, Savage oppress reached his full potential. and never betrayed Count Dooku?
What if Darth Bane returned during the Clone Wars?
He receives a vision of Palpatine and is furious to the point where he either fakes his death and enters carbonite, awakening in the Clone Wars to stop him. Alternatively, with the help of Zannah, he gains immortality and trains for a thousand years on a distant planet until the Clone Wars.
Or perhaps, both Bane and Zannah undertake this, tweaking the story to allow for both scenarios. Zannah kills Bane, and they secretly transfer his essence into a waiting body or create an illusion. This process repeats when Zannah's apprentice kills her.
Day 12
What if; Anakin never gave into his feelings for Padme, Aayla Secura was the chosen one and became Darth Talon, Shme Skywalker was adopted by the Tusken Raiders, Boba Fett saved his Tusken family, Count Dooku was a regular count for the CIS, Jabba the Hutt supported the Jedi at the Start of the Clone Wars, and finally, what if Sabine and Ezra fell in love?
I’m so proud I’ve gotten to see your UA-cam journey Pente Patrol, I remember finding your channel because I loved Star Wars what if’s and couldn’t really find any consistent uploads until I found you, I remember it was a month before the “What if? Anakin was never found” video and to see how much your channel has grown, I just can’t wait to see you reach 100,000🎉 subscribers, I bet, actually I know you’ll reach it before 2024, the only thing that can stop you now is just master skywalk- ope actually sorry I meant Skywalker because your not a master . . . . why are you pulling out your lightsaber anakin…….
What I’m trying to say is, I’m very proud to have been able to see your journey, and that this reward you absolutely deserve for your creativity and ingenuity,
What if Anikin left the order as a padawan finding his own path as a jedi. Then later helping Ashoka(trained by Obi Wan) after she left the order.
"Obi-Wan, what if we do a sting operation on palps?."
Honestly, Anakin should have seen a psychologist before Jedi training so he could let go of his slave past. That was a time bomb waiting to happen and any decent therapist would have made the Jedi go bring his mother to safety. I've seen some fanfics where that happens and the Jedi say we want to treat him like everyone else. The reply is he's not anyone, he's a former slave and if you won't put in the effort to give him the help he needs, you shouldn't have taken him.
Great point! They didn’t originally want to accept Anakin because he was too old and “emotional “. But then when the do accept him they don’t do anything to address his emotionality. They acknowledged it was a problem but chose not tin fix it.
I don’t think that would have help . The Jedi’s still didn’t like anakin from the beginning . Besides , the Jedi council causes his apprentice (Ashoka to leave ) . Anakin just wanted to be accepted instead he got treat it poorly and denied the rank of master when he actually deserved it . All this Jedi mentality of blocking emotion was their down fall. They should have teach Anakin to control his emotion instead of denying his emotions if that kind of makes sense .
I know some try to claim that Windu did trust Anakin and was just hard on him because he wanted him to learn but the movies don't support that. "I don't think the boy can handle it, I don't trust him." He didn't say something like I trust Anakin, but I think the stress is getting to him and I wish he'd pay attention. Also their's that tone with Ahsoka. "I'm sorry citizen." I would've bought that you shouldn't discuss things on holo with a nonjedi, it's the way he said it.
He had complete knowledge of jedi apathy. Of course he would reject the order when all they did was put him down while doing nothing to truly help anyone
What if as Mace fell he threw his lightsaber up through Anakin or Sidious.
mace lightsaber hand got cut off b4 he fell
@@seth3kbut what about the force you technically don’t need limbs to use the force
@@seth3kDagan Gera showed that the force is all you need to move stuff.
@@Blurgamer17 ur forgetting that right after mace hand got cut off… Palpatine shot him with lightning like immediately after
@@seth3k
We forget that maul survived a long ass fall without his other half (event though he is a night brother). We can keep this going on and on, but let's face it -- Mace could've attempted this at least.
So much bitter sweetness in this, I tip my hat to you good sir.
I've often wonder what it would've been like had Anakin been in therapy when he first started training as a Jedi. One a side note I really like how Obi-Wan eventually met someone and had a family. I think he would've been a wonderful n caring family man.
@@rachelprighel4409---Your opinion. Not mine.
What if Anakin was elected Supreme Chancellor during the clone wars?
What if Palpatine was assassinated before he could win his elected to Supreme Chancellor during the Naboo crisis?
What if the Republic had actual checks on power (eg political parties, a cabinet, functioning senate, and a head of state [there's a chancellor but no president who is supposed to be the figurehead commander in chief]).
Like how you always ditch Yoda in the end 😂
Day 7:
What if Darth Zannah returned during the clone wars?
All events transpire as normal, until Zannah`s apprentice kills her. It can be an illusion or essence transfer, either way Zannah survives, then enters stasis. She disobeyed the rule of two, because she saw a vision of palatine, believing him to be the one who would destroy the sith or she wanted to be the one who ruled the galaxy
Alternate path: though this one makes Zannah ridiculously overpowered, fakes her death still, but instead of stasis, grants her self immortality due to her affinity of the arcane side of the force, trains for a thousand years on a distant planet.
Reason for doing this: Her own power, or maybe she wants to be the final sith. First apprentice and last master and something like that. Or maybe this was the plan the whole time, but that involves tweaking bane and the rule of two itself.
"Pimp Daddy Bane" now that's a nickname for the ages! Salut to that man!
What if Ahsoka turned to the dark side after the battle of Umbara? What if she snapped like Barriss did?
What If Thrawn joined the Republic
What If Vader joined the Rebels
What If Shaak Ti trained Asajj Ventress
What If Yaddle trained Asajj Ventress
The last two are particularly interesting. The second could be interesting also.
I agree
Thrawn would actually fuck shit up in more ways than one depending on the timeline as he’d likely would have seen through palpatines manipulations eventually and ether would be killed or warn the Jedi and most likely expose the Sith Lord early and depending on if it’s legends continuity then he’d also heavily militarize the republic if he could prove that yes here’s the extra galactic invaders coming to butcher everyone
What if the Separatists built Skynet?
What if Anakin Skywalker had visions of the Yuuzhang Vong Invasion?
What if Maul was the Chosen One and he was raised as Mother Talzin’s successor?
What if Mon Mothma joined the empire?
What if Padme founded the Rebel Alliance?
Both of those kinda already happened?
Mon mothma was a republic turned imperial senator then rebel leader
And a deleted scene from ROTS had padme, bail, Mon and a few senators start a political plan against palpitine which would turn into the rebels later on
@@rileyscheller7739Mon was never in support of the empire and I’m referring to if Padme was in charge of it instead of Mothma.
5:38
i wasn't expecting there to be a sound effect here, but then there was, and then i was disappointed that it wasn't the falling pipe meme
If this channel collared with Star Wars theory
we would have one of the BEST collabs ever
Listening to the beginning atm, one thing in particular I love is how Obi-Wan was a calming influence for Anakin. He viewed Anakin like a brother, but Anakin saw him as a father and idolized him. Palpatine knew this and did everything he could to form a rift between them. It was why he and Dooku wanted to slaughter Obi-Wan before Anakin's eyes to BREAK Anakin because Obi-Wan was the strongest tether Anakin had to not just the Jedi, but the Light side. It was why Palpatine manipulated events to have Obi-Wan away chasing Grievous. The only one who could have talked Anakin down was Obi-Wan, but by the time they saw each other again, Anakin had done too much, gone too far, and thought Obi-Wan was already dead.
He figured since he had come this far, murdered children and near-non-combatants, his father figure and mentor would be nothing on top of that. And Obi-Wan had lost his life long family as a result of the boy he had raised. By the time they met again, the time for talk was long over, and it was all a part of Palpatine's plan.
Here though, Obi-Wan is true to form. Calm, centered, and not attacking, only ready to defend. Whereas Anakin was usually his other half like a sword and shield, Anakin displays Obi-Wan's own characteristics by waiting, like a son imitating his father. And it works.
This is one of the best what if's i ever saw. It wasnt just a "oh yeah this is how their character would do it" it also accounts for people having feelings and how they sometimes make them act in ways they wouldnt typically do.
What if anakin killed obi wan while obi wan was undercover
I like it! Its no fairytale ending but that's how life is sometimes. I'm glad your Anakin was able to find peace with himself and do the right thing.
What if both Padme and Satine were jedi or sith? Would anakin and obiwan still fall for them? What if they were master and apprentice? What if padme was born on mandalore? What if palpatine was a sensible sith and raised maul like a beloved son and helped him reach his full potential?
I like to think they would still fall in love if they weee Jedi but a pacifist Jedi is an intriguing idea
seeing this what if reminded me.... what if anakin went to the psychologist after killing all the tuskan raiders?
Then he would find that psychologists do not help😮
19:39 "She made clear that anakin have too see an teraupet" LOL 😂
i feel like this needs to be extended upon, like i want to know more about what happens between padme and anakin, and also what happened between them and obi wan, not just a few bits here and there.
I just thought of something: Obi Wan appearing on the ship foreshadows the end of the fight really well: Obi Wan looking down at his fallen appreciate in disappointment while having the high ground.
I have some suggestions:
1) What if the full potential+ Anakin that we see in Ahsoka as keeper of the World Between Worlds decided to go back to the beginning of Revenge of the Sith events and taking over his own past body but with all the knowledge and power he has now? Maybe he saw Palpatine surviving up to Episode 9 and decided he should do this. Its also possible that from his balanced perspective he sees that Order 66 is necessary to shake up the stagnant Jedi Order and corrupt Republic but a Sith Galactic Empire lasting 20 years whose defeat didnt even fully restored the Republic isnt. It would be so cool to see Anakin join Padme as the leader of this early new rebel alliance and defeat Sidious for good. An important data to consider, according to Imperial Law the one true power the Imperial Senate held was to crown the new Emperor should Palpatine die, this never happened because Palpatine dissolved the Senate with the Death Star complete, which broke the chain of command and led to a fractured New Republic. Here if he is defeated quickly enough the Senate can crown a new emperor who can then dissolve the Empire back into the Republic without having splintered factions like the First Order. But these are just my ideas I leave the story up to you the central premise is: Ahsoka's show Anakin goes back to his early ROTS body with the knowledge, wisdom and power he now has.
2) Same as before but this time rather than going personally he instead appears to end of Clone Wars Ahsoka. He will finish her training and she will do the job of the Chosen One being trained in both light and dark and lead an early rebellion to defeat Sidious. Remember Ahsoka has the life force of the Daughter and with WBW Anakin as her master she could certainly grow to defeat Sidious. When she is ready Anakin could even direct her to Bath on the Pool of Knowledge and Font of power, but because of Anakin overseeing the process and Ahsoka already having the Daughter's life and her training, she will not twist like Abeloth, but become a being of balance, ready to lay the smackdown on Sidious and lead the rebel seemingly impossible assault on Coruscant. Makes way more sense than Rey anyway.
3) What if Darth Tenebrous took Anakin's body? This was actually Tenebrous's ultimate plan and I have never seen a WI on it. He just failed because when he entered Plagueis's body he saw a futufe vision of Plagueis being killed by Palpatine, assumed he would never get to meet the Chosen One and panicked shooting himself out of Plagueis prematurely and getting trapped in a time loop. So, what if he didnt panicked and waited until the time Plageuis atually saw Anakin in the distance and shot himself at him? Tenebrous's possession was not Essence Transfer, it was more insidious, moving his midichlorians (who he modified into "maxchlorians") like a virus. So rather than taking over Anakin by force like would in Essence Transfer, he starts by increasing Anakin's power when he use the darkside and allows Sidious to do the heavy lifting forming his Empire, Anakin is way more powerful during the assault on the temple and Mustafar using, to the worry of Sidious, powers only advanced Sith can use like lighting. Then finally on Mustafar he hears a whisper telling him to open himself to the darkside fully so he can finally save Padme, Anankin does believing it to be his own darkside and Tebebrous finally takes him over.
4) What if Maul rather than sulking or just limiting himself to the underworld after the formation of the Galactic Empire spent his time training, went to Dathomir to learn from the Nightsisters (his potential was greater than Talzin) and he finally one day he shows up to overthrow Sidious?
5) What if after defeating Anakin, Obi-Wan realizing where he was reactivated the Droid Army on Mustafar but making it fully loyal to the Jedi like the Clones are loyal to Sidious? The Clone Wars continue with the Jedi remaining joining the seppies now without the influence of the Sith or the corrupt corporate council. Now Palpatine is in trouble because he has no puppet leading them and has been blocked from the command codes by Kenobi. And unlike Dooku the Jedi will not gimp the droid army's potential, like the fact it takes minutes to fabricate droids as opposed to years or months to train a clone or conscript. Leaders like Mon Mothma and Bail could also join on the condition that rather than secede they will restore the Republic on more fair terms, the Separatist Senate agrees.
6) What if rather than destroying it, Vader used Momin's portal to regain his uninjured body like Momin himself did?
7) There was a crucial moment between Palpatine telling Sidioud and Windu coming to arrest him when Order 66 was in danger. What if Windu before arresting Palpatine or Anskin out of guilt over what he might do contacted the full Jedi Council on Sidioud, they do 1+1 on Fives situation and decide that the clones are really dangerous as long as Palpatine is their Supreme Commander, so they give the general order to all the Jedi to discreetly leave all battlefields which were being won anyways and gather and evacuate the Temple? So all the 10,000-ish Jedi escape. Anakin turns, Order 66 is given but there are... no Jedi to execute them all. No Temple to send Anakin to kill the Jedi and immerse him into the darkside fully, just the Separatist Council. The Empire still forms but Sidious now has to face his worst nightmare of an open war with a nearly full and organized Jedi Order. Perhaps with this, seeing they have a chance, the Delegation of 2000 founds the Rebel Alliance early, with Padme, Bail or Mothma declaring the rebellion, detailing how Palpatine played both sides and calling all citizens who doesnt want to live under Palpatine's autocratic unaccountable rule to follow them.
What if 3PO's Memory was not deleted but Timedeleyed?
What's funny is how we got what I think is the GOAT lightsaber fight (between Anakin and Obi-Wan) is Obi-Wan's stupidity standing there at the top of the ship's ramp, which made Anakin think Padmé was betraying him, and even worse, Obi-Wan later igniting his lightsaber and provoking Anakin to do the same. If Obi-Wan hadn't done any of those things, I think Anakin wouldn't have choked Padmé, and he could've even been brought back to the light.
Your portrayal of Kenobi here is just _so_ much more powerful than it was in ROTS imo. Truly jedi-like. It is excellent!
What if the Bendu trained Luke Skywalker?
What if Luke and Leia were both sent to Tattooine?
What if Ahsoka Tano trained Mara Jade Skywalker instead of Sabine wren?
What if grogu founded his own group of force sensitive mandalorians?
What if Anakin Skywalker was a gray Jedi and started his own force group?
What if Luke Skywalker met Padme’s family?
What if All characters in Star Wars had their genders swapped?
I already did the second one on your list on my channel. It's called "What if Obi wan trained luke and leia from birth"
I’m not sure how Bendu would Luke Skywalker. Perhaps he would of been called to Bendu instead of Yoda. Though Luke would only have lightsaber training from Ben Kenobi.
I do want to see the last one
The third What If suggestion with "Ahsoka Tano training Mara Jade instead of Sabine Wren" sounds like a good idea
Wow, that was great! Nicely done.
What if Cal Kestis trained Luke Skywalker?
Or, what if Baylan Skoll was a Sith Lord after "Return of the Jedi"?
First video I've seen from you and wow this is exciting to listen to. Incredible writing. It got a bit slow towards the end, but everything just felt right.
"No obi wan I won't fight you", "only a sith deals in absolutes i will do what I must"
"Wtf?!"
*awkward silence*
OK ok nice twist to the end, lose ends going to be a git tho. 😂😂😂😂😂 cheers mate.
What if upon realizing what he's done, Anikin committed an hero.
Idea: What if Thrawn and the empire discovered modern earth.
I’d just love to hear his thoughts on earth culture and weaponry.
Anakin and Obi Wan reuniting at the end is the best thing ever.
what if anakin told mace about what happened on tatooine and mace decided to help him
What if Anakin joined Yoda on his journey with Qui Gon?
Anakin “I ain’t fighting you” obi wan “jail” anakin “fuck it we ball”
What if Jedi Revan had been alive during the Clone Wars?
What if Luke and Leia weren't siblings?
What if General Grievous was a Jedi?
Mirror universe. 🪞
Revan would be 3,000+ years old
Okay this I was very good I did enjoy it I do wish you was a lot longer I hope you come back make a park 2 to it and keep up the good work and may the force be with you
Thanks for that flashback to Mysteries of the Sith when the only way to win the the game was not to fight the fallen Jedi.
For your next star wars what if, i think you should do "what if anakin trained padmé" this is a what if i was thinking of and i think it could be a win win for both Anakin and Padmé cause padmé could defend herself and Anakin eould have a new student
This one was SO GOOD
Day 7:
What if Darth Zannah trained Anakin Skywalker/Luke Skywalker?
How would this happen: All events transpire as normal until Zannah's apprentice kills her. It can be an illusion. Then she enters stasis. She awakens shortly before or after Anakin is born, uses her sorcery to conceal her signature, becomes a Jedi, and later becomes his master. Alternatively, adjust events to fit Luke Skywalker instead.
Alternate path: Although this makes Zannah a bit overpowered, she fakes her death and, instead of entering stasis, grants herself immortality due to her affinity for the arcane side of the Force. She trains for a thousand years on a distant planet until Anakin or Luke is born.
Reason for doing this: She believes that Anakin or Luke is the answer to the grand plan(Bane`s or perhaps her own, maybe she wants to kill Abeloth or something) and considers herself the perfect teacher for them.
what if terminators were used instead of battle droids by the CIS during the clone wars
So basically, what if the Earth with Skynet existed in Star Wars.
@@wargamesmaster What if Earth joined the separatists?
The competence levels would be insane.
Here's an interesting one for ya, what if viceroy nute gunray was a Jedi?
This was the most satisfying Starwars fan fiction/rewrite I've ever seen.
Wont stop the clone troopers, but a way to stop the droids is to make them select all the buses, decode squiggly words, and select I'm not a robot.
What if Padme hit the griddy on mustafar? (It brings anakin back to the light and he one shots Palpatine)
Ok. That's my new cannon.
What if the clone program was reinstated after A New Hope?
"What if" the Love of Qui-Gon's life didn't die?
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Anakin wtf bro, blud using yin and yang at the same fking time wow, GG Ani boi for the W
This was outstanding.
"What if" Sabine Wren discovered that she was Force-Sensitive at the same time Ezra did in the SW: Rebels series.
(Serious plot) _What if General Grievous was born as a Force-sensitive being and trained under Dooku as an apprentice?_
(Satire) _What if Darth Sidious offered the galaxys finest cookies for the jedi to join the empire?_
What if General Grievous was the Chosen One?
What if Pente Patrol was the chosen one?
Grievous's force sensitivity wouldn't matter. He was a pair of lungs, a heart, brain and eyes encaged in armor. Even if he was force sensitive it wouldn't matter anymore because he's literally just a group of organs so all his midichlorians are just gone
@auroa9854 He was formerly known as _Qymaen jai Sheelal_ before he turned to Dooku and Palpatine to avenge his people's death by becoming the cybernetic Warlord we know as General Grievous.
He was an accomplished sniper during his teen years, gaining the nickname, "grievous," due to it. If he was Force-sensitive during this time, both the jedi and the sith would sense it. And with how Qymaen approached the two sith lords, it'd make sense that Dooku would take him in as an apprentice and there'd be no need for him to cyberize.
What if Darth Zannah faked her death, froze her self in carbonate and returned during the clone wars, pretending to be a Jedi (she had the ability to full cloak her dark side power to seem like a Jedi), and Trained Anakin
I love this cause it said what everyone was thinking “that dude needs therapy”
What if Anakin vowed loyalty to the Zygerrian queen
What if Anakin was accused of the bombing at the Jedi temple
What if Anakin trained Ezra
What if Ezra saved Mace Windu
What if Ashoka fell in love with Anakin, but he didn't fall in love with her
What if Ezra and Leia fell in love
What if Dooku didn't go to Zygerria and Anakin couldn't escape
Good questions!
I think if Anakin vowed loyalty for the zygererrian queen and couldn’t leave things would’ve gone dark very fast. Ashoka and obi wan wouldn’t escape and the queen would probably break them and turn them into a Jedi army which would cause war between zygerria and the republic while they were still at war with the separatists. Maybe the republic would just decide three Jedi weren’t worth the battle.
I read a fanfic where Obi-Wan was framed for the binging but not Anakin. That’s a good question though. He was a favored knight and Public figure so I doubt he would be convicted or thoroughly punished. Ashoka was convicted because she was essentially a disposable padawan and they needed senate and public approval. Though I don’t doubt palpatine would somehow use the bombings and anakin’s framing to turn Anakin further against the Jedi council.
One thing about that theory with Ezra saving windu, Ezra was born on Empire Day, an event that was established after the fall of the republic, the day Mace Windu was killed.
Really crazy What If idea:
What if the Transformers crash landed in the Star Wars galaxy instead of Earth?
I'd absolutely love to see a full on series done (similar to the sith return during the Clone Wars) where the great Cybertronian Civil War between the Autobots and Decepticons picked up in the Star Wars galaxy instead of Earth.
Yes make it so! 👏
I just adore the part where padme doesnt go into child birth and doesnt die of CHILD BIRTH
“You are not high enough level to fight this enemy”
Obi-wan, clueless of this: Huh. Okay, bye Anakin.
This was bittersweet.. I enjoyed every second of it! Especially how Obi-Wan was able to find happiness through it all. Takes strength to be able to forgive someone for destroying everything that you had held dear.
What if Vader found Anakin's severed right arm preserved for palpatine's cloning program and managed to reincorporate it with his remaining flesh and cybernetics?
To be honest, this is very interesting concept, and as always it let´s me think, how many things could be changend in the Star Wars story as a whole.👍
What If Anakin was Raised as a Jedi From Birth
Here’s mine: ua-cam.com/video/nqx6btGjcYE/v-deo.htmlsi=cMZQhFxFMdd-Dyku
No way Anakin goes to a beach to think, too much sand
What if Bo-Katan was closely related to Darth Revan (skipped generations) and she's been having visions of him, before Maul arrived to Mandalore and after the events of the Death Watch attacking the village.
Obi Wan: "Why did you do it?!" Anakin: "My bad."
What if idea: What if plo Koon trained anikin same timeline as the original however how the training of anikin by plo would affect anikins actions in attack of the clones, through out the clone wars and how the growth in the force affected the war effort, and then what would happen in revenge of the Sith. I feel like you could really go into deep detail about this theory as I feel that plo would have been the best possible teacher for anikin. Definitely could be one of the longer videos
Plo was indeed the Best Teacher Anakin could have had, aside from Revan or Meetra Surik. Honestly, Surik would likely have been better due to all she went through during the Dark Wars era that KOTOR II is set in, as she knew how to Deal With the Traumas that had hindered her previously.
@@theseekerofancienttruth3873i feel like if plo trained anakin, he would have told plo instead of Yoda, and if plo was his master he probably wouldn't have been shot down by the clones.
I think if Anakin refused to fight Obi Wan would have been convinced he wasn’t un redeemable
What If Anakin RESCINDED Order 66?
As Palpatine's personal representative, he would technically have access to that same command; maybe Anakin came to his senses, embraced the light side of the Force, and told the 501st to not only withdraw from attacking, but to also protect the Jedi temple at all costs.
What if Sabine and Ezra killed Trawn with the Tie Defender?
What if Yoda started having visions of Corusant imploding on itself?
What if the train heist in Solo went without a problem?
What if Naboo's bigger fish attacked in the Battle of Naboo?
Crossover: What if Obi-Wan's fleet found a wormhole to another part of space and the first ship they encountered was the USS Cerritos?
What if Ben Solo wasn't Force sensitive?
What if Omega left the Bad Batch in Season 1?
What if the holonet found and exposed Palpatine as the Sith Lord during the Clone Wars?
What if Owen and Beru took Luke and moved off of Tatooine?
Crossover: What if Anakin, as a Padawan, tinkered in his spare time and created a group of loyal droids that developed actual intelligence and emotions, leading to his team not only fighting in the Clone Wars, but actually listening to concerns and stuff?
What if Kanan and Hera found Obi-Wan?
What if a tear in the timeline occurred, forcing a young Obi-Wan to travel forward to a different version of A New Hope?
What if Han listened to Leia about her concerns on Bespin?
What if R2-D2 made a copy of C-3P0's memory at the end of Revenge of the Sith?
What if Jocasta Nu was more perceptive than she appeared?
Crossover: What if Obi-Wan trained Anakin away from the Jedi Temple and instead used a place filled with artifacts too dangerous for anyone to use and almost an infinite amount of rooms, despite the size of this house of mystery?
What if Padmé was the one mortally wounded instead of her body double in Attack of the Clones?
Silly: What if Obi-Wan finds a tear in reality, causing the LEGO Star Wars universe to appear?
What if Obi-Wan met Omega when he arrived at Kamino?
What if Rex and Cody arrived at Rischi Station before the Seperatists?
What if Lando wasn't as much of a smooth talker as he thought he was?
Crossover: What if on route to Tatooine with Luke, Obi-Wan comes across an oddly shaped station occupied by four very different robots with attitudes and a lone human that is only believed to be legend, Mike Nelson Destroyer of Worlds?
What if Chopper was also armed with blasters?
What if Satine grew tired of being treated as a joke, and decided to take out Death Watch herself?
Crossover: What if Obi-Wan took Luke and Leia and hid them on Earth in a crazy little town called Eureka, Oregon, with Obi-Wan becoming the sheriff of the town?
What if Obi-Wan and Luke knew about the spy following them at Mos Eisley?
(If there are any you particularly liked or want some clarification, please let me know and also please be polite.)