Riding the first Edinburgh Tram from Newhaven!
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I was on the 0457 train out of Manchester to make this video happen... I am now officially exhausted!
Was the TPE train on time? or was it delayed as usual
I made the silly decision at 5am to come, while still at work. Was worth it though.
You were actually on a TPE train that was running? You must have had luck on your side.
Honestly Jen, the sacrifices you make to keep the rest of us informed and entertained is nothing short of fabulous...very well done.
As ever, take care,
Jon B.
Lol😂
Welcome to Edinburgh. This is definitely a big moment for Edinburgh, now that the new tram line to Newhaven now open to the public. Can’t wait to try it out myself very soon.
Very diplomatic about the cycle track on Leith Walk which... has many issues!
Maybe you should make a video on it 😛
@@JenOnTheMove bit late now 😂
The only VIP that matters got on at Newhaven 😉. Great video as always
Stop, you’ll make me blush 😂😂
Wonderful city and great trams. Good to see the extension open at last. Hope you enjoyed the trip, thanks Jen.
Bit of a nightmare to get back! But safely home now!
Whilst I think you're mad for getting such an early train from Manchester I loved getting to see the new trams so thank you for doing so! ❤
I'm definitely paying the price this morning!
I was on the 1st one from the city centre. Was packed. But we had bagpipes!
We had space 😉
Since we left at 12 on the dot, I suspect this may have been the very first tram on the extension, unless you left seconds before 12?
I think Edinburgh very lucky, not only do they have a fabulous local authority owned bus company they have these trams which complement them. They seemed really busy today when I went down to Leith as you say they were controversial but they should bed in well. The sun came out in the afternoon. Brilliant day
Great video combining really timely and interesting content with an alternative approach to that taken by others. And a lovely interrupting ding by a tram near the beginning!
Glad you enjoyed it! The ding just doesn’t sound as good as the metrolink toot though!
The toot is the iconic sound of Manchester
Always best to be one of the first youTubers to put out a video when a new service starts, or maybe you are the first
Whatever, well done !
My wife and I visited Edinburgh a couple of months ago and enjoyed the section of tram that was open, just a pity the new section wasn't opened at that time
Regards from Whitley Bay
Excellent video!!I was on that tram with you today-it’s always nice to meet someone you follow!!
Great to meet you too!
awesome video the trams in Edinburgh look amazing & as loads of people have recommended Edinburgh for me to visit i wouldnt mind going up there to sample the trams and see the castle ect one day in the future
You should!
Lovely video Jen! Trams so travel some interesting areas. But did love my Tram Fix... like one of the trams advertised 😂
NICE! I am planning a Scotland train ramble Fall 2024 and knowing about the new tram extension makes decisions about where to stay the first two nights much easier. I usually plan lodging to be convenient to train and tram. I have posted notice of this new connection out to the cruise port to the a Cruising forum since knowing how to get in to town from cruise ships is always a huge topic of conversation. Have to say have never seen Bento and Dim Sum in the same venue, but I could get with that.
Train and tram are closest to each other at Haymarket
Brilliant video Jen, nice to see that the Newhaven extension to the Edinburgh trams is now open. :)
Not even in Morningside (Edinburgh's snootiest area - allegedly) do they pronounce 'Picardy' (as in Picardy Place) like the surname of Jean-Luc Picard with a 'y' tagged on at the end! The stress is on the first syllable. As a fun fact, Jen, you could have mentioned that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was born at 11 Picardy Place, but houses on that side of the street were demolished about 50 years ago, when an extremely large roundabout was built.
Until the 1960s Edinburgh had a surprisingly comprehensive suburban rail system but Dr Beeching's cuts put paid to most of it. A professor at Edinburgh University (unfortunately I have forgotten his name) produced a plan in the early 1970s than would have incorporated a lot of the disused railway lines into a Light Rapid Transport system (aka a tram network) that would also have used tracks going down some roads (including Leith Walk). However, this was just a hobby for the professor and, although he gave many presentations, the city council were not interested. Mind you, nothing moves fast in Edinburgh. The city bypass was first proposed in the late 1920s but wasn't completed until 1989.
Lothian Regional Transport does (money aside) appear to be one of the most forward looking authorities.
I have to grudgingly accept that the City of Edinburgh Council is pretty switched on when it comes to bus services and has been for as long as I can remember - so going back to the 1960s. It has been a discussion point with friends and family over the years as to why this is the case and one of the key catalysts seems to be the comparative lack of car parking in the city centre, which in itself is a result of city council decision-making. I can remember the uproar when the Castle Terrace car park was opened in 1964., as it was deemed by many to be a blight on the well-preserved architecture of the city centre. Another factor may be that Edinburgh is not a particularly densely populated city, once you escape the inner-city area, and so the suburbs are quite distant from Princes Street.
Being a bit pedantic, Lothian Regional Transport changed its name to Lothian Buses in 2000 not long after the Lothian Region was abolished following the last reform of local government.
Great stuff, Jen! Hopefully you are relaxing now after a mad, hectic day! Thanks for getting this out so quickly!
Not long made it home! I’m going to sleep for a long time!
Jen points at Scottish things 😂
Lovely video, it's interesting to see the similarities with the Urbos 3s here in the West Midlands, but also the differences. I wish we had proper seats like Edinburgh's, and the luggage racks seem useful too.
I suspect they mainly exist because it serves the airport to be honest
The luggage racks get pretty heavily used by people going to the 4 train stations served by the tram too.
@@JenOnTheMove Makes sense, although I reckon the Midland Metro could do with them too, especially once its commectimg the HS2 station in Brum, even just to make transfers from there to Birmingham New Street easier.
Great video, Jen! I'm watching it on an Edinburgh Tram that I jumped on at Picardy Place. I get the trams to work and it will be interesting to see if the extension affects how the trams run to time (due to potential delays caused by the additional on street running)
Wish I'd known you were in town, Jen. I'd have come to say hi. I'm quite excited by the prospect of riding the extension soon.
On to the next extension!
You did remind me of one decision about the trams that does bug me - no air con! They are designed for it, but TfE left it out to save money. In the summer it's like riding in a greenhouse. Maybe TMI, but I've found myself sticking to the seats!
Just a flying visit I’m afraid!
Edinburgh are so lucky! We could all have this if the people guarding the coffers didn't have a car addiction... and, y'know, _hate the poor._
I can't believe you were so near! A great video Jen. Thank you.
Thankyou!
So awesome! Glad you were there to video it! 🎉
I’m just in from an afternoon riding the extension. Great fun, and I’m glad it’s open at last.
Welcome! You got a nice day for your visit. Picardy place has the accent on the first syllable btw :)
Can confirm, Jen is trams! Trams are cool
Next city I live in has to have a tram. You're right - trams ARE cool!
I live in London and always thank the driver when getting off at the middle door!
Awesome intro! I couldn't imagine doing anything else different. Lovely ride! Easiest subscribe click of my life, Jen!
Thanks so much!!
Oh how much I wish politicans would pay attention to the "successful cities need successful public transport systems" and " you have to start somewhere" points you made. In Bristol theres been talk of various metro systems for decades now but nothing ever gets started.
I’m not too up to date with Bristol but I know that they just need to get on with building some meaningful things!
Here was I expecting you to burst in
"Roses of Picardy"
at Picardy Square. LOL
Excellent video Jen!
Always appreciate the effort you put into these video's. 👏🙂
Thanks so much! 😊
Only slightly slower via City Centre on the tram, than using the SkyLink 200 through the suburbs.
0915 Tram from Ingliston arrives at Ocean Terminal at 1004, compared to the 0914 200 which arrives at 1000.
If travelling from the Airport itself, due to the difference in times between Airport and Ingliston, its down to being 1 minute slower. (0913 & 0910 departures respectively)
Is it just me that thinks trams are underrated
Trams are cool!
Ikr
They are supposed to have priority, and do on the older part. Riding them today there seem to be some teething problems with some of the sensors on the new stretch to the point that our driver had to radio for permission to pass a signal near Ocean Terminal that was just stuck with traffic going through. Other places we did keep moving with traffic held, so hopefully should improve.
Great video as usual Jen! Picardy place was of course named after the legendary Star Trek Captain/Admiral!😁
Well that crept up on me! I feel a visit to Edinburgh is in order. Thanks! 🙂
Great video ! Well done for your perseverance, and hope you enjoyed your coffee !
Great video Jen!
Getting off St Andrews square…. Quite literally the closest tram stop to a Costa 😂
It’s been a bit of a Starbucks day for me!
compared to the first phase, this seems incredibly quick... can't believe it's already happened!
I also think it will open the city up much better.... even with the pre-existing transport being on the better side, Leith and the coast facing neighborhoods always needed that connections
Don’t you wish that Manchester trams were low floor. They look so much better in the city. I understand why they couldn’t be but it’s a shame.
Great video Jen. I used to often work in Edinburgh and remember the drama of the build of the network! Mind you can't let you claim Manchester as the original as that honour has to go to dear old Croydon surely
Croydon was one of the later modern tram networks to open, it didn't open until 2000, whereas Manchester was 1992, Sheffield was 1994 and Birmingham was 1999 🙂 It's only Nottingham and Edinburgh that were built after Croydon!
@@JenOnTheMove Gosh were some that early?! I guess I have spent too long walking and not enough time riding! Happy to be corrected.
I might go to Edinburgh in August and stay in Newhaven. This will be great for those in Edinburgh and visitors alike. And for Jen, Another great video as always and I hope that you can make more in the future.
Thank you!
I bet that person you were standing next to, at the end, was wondering who the heck you were talking to! 😆
We’d been chatting all journey don’t worry!
@@JenOnTheMove that's good. 🙂
I was on the first tram from Picardy Place. It was indeed rammed.
I’ve seen a video from it and I’m reassured that I made the right choice to start at newhaven!
I was on the tram Yesterday, but for some reason in the afternoon they were not running to the airport. Had to take the airlink 100 bus instead. Not bad, but prefer trams.
Great News I will use this new extension next season when I visit the Spartans, Scotlands newest Professional Football Team
Edinburgh Tram
I tried the tram on the first day in 2014 when it opened from Shandwick Place to the Airport and back but I'm not sure I'll try the extension just yet as I don't have a specific reason to go to Leith and my issue is they don't have contactless integration with the tap tap cap with the buses quite yet so you'd have to get a £5.00 paper day ticket instead of the £4.80 you pay daily with the buses. Also I can get the 16 bus directly all the way to Leith from where I live anyway.
Hope you do get to try it one day!
Nice one Jen. If I'd known I might have come into the city myself. Nevermind. Plenty more days ;-)
The Ivy on the corner of St Andrews Square is a nice place to eat (might need to book though)
They look like nice modern trams, but I am disappointed that they do not go toot. :P
Amazing video as always
Exciting it's finally here ✨
Another great video and OMG I ALSO HAVE THOSE DUNGAREES!!! 😍😍😍
You say it's good to see Leith Walk with segregated cycle lanes, but wait until you try and use them!
Are they that bad? Didn’t get a chance to look in detail!
If you did a cycling video on them you'd need to play "that music" a fair bit!
The Manchester trams started running in 1992, Sheffield in 1994 and Birmingham in 1999, all before London got their trams in 2000, and I've seen videos that claim that London was the first to use these modern day trams 😂 sorry London, it was the North of England 😂
Great video Jen! This is massive for Edinburgh Hopefully they eventually extend the line to Portobello and Newington through the meadows that would be great, love the channel! 😊
Nicely done Jen! Hope you enjoyed your time in Scotland ☺️
Great video Jen
Nice one Jen! Forgot to subscribe
Yay! Thank you!
CAF Urbos 3 are not bad. However, they’re somewhat not of a train not a tramcar. Still better by using the motor bus
I wish I was back in Edinburgh. Give Auld Reekie a hello from me.
I love Endinburgh
I definitely would like to ride on the Edinburgh Tram. They should extend to Port of Leith via Lower Granton or Granton and to North Newbridge and possibly to Musselburgh.
I have been to Edinburgh couple times and it is such a lovely city in Scotland. And I went there last year for a funeral which was at Prestonpans.
Welcome to 🏴
I think in this case its probably a bandtram rather than a bandwagon. Also... DING!
Good ride along.. thx🩵
I went new Edinburgh to newhaven then on back up to foot of the walk
There are plenty of signs in Windsor & London for tourists even to buildings that you can see but there are no such signs in Edinburgh
Great video as always. I Need to get back to Edinburgh
So, Newhaven (Not Marine)
wow!!
Should you not have been a VIP? Another brilliant video, and another place I’d like to visit (because of your videos)
Thank you!
Wonder if there’ll be a north south line or is that it now?
I love the restaurant @ 1:58, Dimsum Box, Authentic Sush Dimsum. I can see sushi here but dim sum? Japanese and Chinese cuisines in one restaurant?
Good video ❤
Was the tram full of You-tubers, or were there any real punters?
Looks good though.
Well pointed at.😁
Mostly locals out for the ride. I’m reasonably confident I was the only non local
Pram! lol🤣
Lovely
Jen did you managed to cross the road looking at at the green man?
Good video
The problem is that a single line, especially to an airport, is NOT a network.
Every city needs to start somewhere! Manchester started with Altrincham - Bury and look at it now!
@@JenOnTheMove Agreed, but the original plans for Edinburgh were much greater, but sadly politics and money got involved .. don't they always !
My local network (Tyne & Wear Metro) initially stopped at Bank Foot, less than 3 miles from Newcastle Airport, which everybody thought was strange. Just checking and of the 60 stations, this is the 4th least used station, so it was always pretty pointless.
It took another 10 years for that short section to the airport to be constructed.
@@JenOnTheMove Granted. But just stretching it out to the other side of town is still a single line. Edinburgh did have larger plans, if I recall correctly. But it has been cut back to just this one line. Sad. Yes a start, but for it to be really successful it needs other lines to other places/parts of the city.
@@Jules_Diplopia The Newhaven line was meant to be the first section (Line 1A), with the Airport being the third section (Line 2)
@@Jules_Diplopia The original plans, which I saw at an exhibition for the planned tramway years before they started building, had a central loop which ran from, if I'm remembering correctly, Haymarket Station, along Princes Street, down Leith Walk, along the coast through Newhaven and Granton, then back to Haymarket. A spur came off the western edge of the loop out to the airport, and another spur headed south from the eastern edge of the loop down to Cameron Toll.
With what opened today we've now got around 2/3 of the loop (so not yet a loop) and the airport spur.
"segregated cycle lanes that stop very abruptly???"
And aren't very segregated; for most of the length there's just a painted line on the ground separating the cycle way from the pedestrian part of the pavement. There are also numerous places where people getting off buses step off into the cycle way and have to cross it to get to the pedestrian part.
Wooden boards for the destination. How embarrassing. I mean, they've only had 4 years.
The digital displays were also working, so not sure why they had the wooden boards!
We had the best bus network in the uk. The trams have cost alot,caused businesses to close and angered alot of Edinburgh residents. Its just a line rather than a network so doesn't really serve the people of Edinburgh, in fact,being cynical it's a vanity project,a 19th century form of travel,aimed towards bringing in tourists from the airport and that's about it
Every network has to start somewhere. When it first opened, Manchester Metrolink was a single line and now look at it!
You can't build a network without first building the first line
I have seen these one-line networks in a number of European cities, notably in France, which have never developed. Although Edinburgh had a quite well-developed suburban railway network in the past, most of that disappeared with the Beeching cuts in the 1960s. The upside is that many of these old lines have been converted to cycle tracks and I suspect no-one on the council would be brave enough to suggest changing them into tram tracks, as was suggested in the early 1970s by a University of Edinburgh professor (whose name I have unfortunately forgotten and can't find on the internet).
I am not sure how good modern trams are at climbing and descending long inclines but Edinburgh is a lot hillier than Manchester in general. Sheffield is pretty hilly as well but has only essentially got three legs (with some short offshoots) going out from the city centre; the trams have been operating in Sheffield since 1994, so that would normally be expected to be enough time for a more complex network to have developed. A friend of mine who has lived in Sheffield for over 40 years has never used the tram there, because there is no tram line anywhere near where she lives.
@@user-mn4cc6bb7t Exactly. The Innocent path,which is now a cycle path could have been used as it was part of the old rail network that served the wider area of Edinburgh, it would have cost far less too. Either that or they could have just re opened the old suburban railway stations. Edinburgh has too many hills and narrow streets. The parking bays down Leith Walk are too narrow for cars to park and for a tram then to get past let alone delivery lorries,it's just such bad planning....
@@royharpershat8059 The Innocent Tunnel was a one of the elements that the professor stated should be exploited in his proposal 50 years ago. Being a bit of a hypocrite, I find the cycle track that skirts Niddrie and Craigmillar and then goes through the Innocent Tunnel very useful and wish it had been available when I was younger. Not only is it flatter than my alternative route following the A1 but you don't have cars and buses and their fumes to contend with. I agree with your comments about Leith Walk. The design looks as if it was procured off-plan by someone who knew something about computer-aided design but didn't know that part of Edinburgh very well and assumed that the locals all drive a Volkswagen Up! (or similar) and that SUVs are a phenomenon yet to reach Auld Reekie.
Ive never liked trams i dont know why lol