unrelenting blade is pretty bad. just buy another Papercutter from the auctionhouse for a few gold and play double papercutter till u get a better dagger. and yes Mainhand deadly and offhand instand poison
the dps difference should be less than 10, so you should not even feel it. most people recommend Sinister MH (with instant) and Papercutter OH (with deadly)
1. I pre Pot (haste) every bossfight 1 second before pull, so I am getting out of stealth and I can take another pot when CD is ready. 2. first attacks are not always directly behind the boss, tank needs maybe to turn it around 3. if u start in stealth and behind boss and have no other spec in raid which can apply bleeding, then u can start with Garrote
@@mulltiy can still be solved by being out of stealth pre pop stealth sprint to position for the boss and open garrote to snd hunger for blood then mute to envenom or cold blood envenom using overkill to buff its damage or save cb for heroism with vanish envenom. Depending on how fast the boss dies
Ideal situation in 10 and 25 you have a class like Feral druid or Warrior that puts bleeds up for you, putting your own bleeds up to get hunger is a pretty hefty dps loss
the rogue was my first character here on wotlk and NA server so had not heirloom gear. on my pala I use weapon, chest and shoulders (I guess thats all what is possible). and yes, leveling Rogue is very very awkward xD. u have zero AOE till 80. just take it like it is and enjoy max level even more then
in combination with Papercutter (which only should cost around 20g) is Murder better. Paper Mainhand, Murder Offhand. but we start here talking about maybe 1% diff, so its very very minimal
it is ok/good to have two fast daggers. but dustbringer would not be my first choice. 2x webbed death is strong, and 2 times liberian Papercutter also works, maybe in mix with a murder (1.5 speed). if u fresh level 80 u can go for 2x papercutter (should cost around 20g in auctionhouse) and then trying to get fleshshapper for offhand from HoS Heroic or any other dagger from the raid as offhand
Wil you make a video for combat rogues? I just got the nax 25 fist weapon and I’ve been told it’s bis for combat rogues. This video helped me a lot. I was using deadly poison on both weapons and was at the bottom of charts in nax 25 running assassination.
not sure if I make a video about combat rogue in the next few days/weeks cuz Combat Rogues are not bad but Assa is definitely the superior spec atm. Only reason for Assa Rogue would be if ur Raid has no Warrior and especially no Arms Warrior. But yes the Fist Weapon is super strong, congrats to it
Just one correction which I’m you kinda said right the first time but then misspoke, you’d definitely want your fast weapon in the Main hand with deadly poison and the slow weapon in offhand with instant. Otherwise great video!
@@tomik6537 thats wrong. one of the rare weapon combinations you would do that would be Sinister + Papercutter. besides that 99% of the weapon combinations are better if fast weapon in mainhand with deadly, slow offhand with instant. u can also read that in the linked text guide from Simonize
@@tomik6537 Your only ability dmg spell is mutilate and it uses both daggers equally. Pretty much every other spec in the game you're correct, but not for mutilate rogue. Because offhand weapons have a lower hit chance, you put your faster weapon in main hand for more poison procs which are buffed by envenom.
dude this shit is legit just you reading off of simonize's wowhead guide, which hes made alot of videos for already, for example, the rotation section literally has a screenshot of simonizes wowhead guide, you didnt even come up with that rotation. And that same guy whos made that guide your reading from also made a video guide. Also you didnt even mention energy pooling and envenom timing at all, which is like assass's only nuance lfmao.
hey hey, didnt even look at the author of the wowhead guide and surely I appreciate Simonenize Work so far. I linked the guide as well on my video, so its crediting him and I also think/hope he can a few more views cuz if my vids. I had not the feeling to make a complete own BiS List vor example if nearly all items which makes sense are already listed there. but thanks for your critic anyways, next clip which will go in this direction I try to go a lil bit more individual. see ya and have a nice evening
ye I have two bosses left with less than 95+, can definitely do better there, and hopefully will next raid without dying at KT cuz mindcontrol xD. if you already on 99+ average than I guess u dont even need a guide. but glad I could help anyways
Missing Lightning Reflexes YIKES! 10% melee haste on a spec that is all about white hits Y I K E S. Advising glyph of fan of knives instead of glyph of backstab or even glyph of rupture YIKES! Opening rotation that does not include Garrote and INSTANTLY Hunger for blood buff for literally the most crucial first seconds of the fights when everything has procced and you want max damage YIKES! Please git gud before making guides cause people are actually watching these…
Hi, not sure if you were realizing that this Guide is for Assa Rogues in WotLK Classic. if you use Rupture (+ Rupture Glyph) and things like Garrote or Backstab then I really think you talking about Sub Rogue maybe or Retail WoW (dunno how you play Rogue there) but what you say there makes really zero sense regarding to Assa Rogue in WotLK. but thanks anyways for your comment 👍
thanks so much for the help!
awesome guide!
you welcome Bro
everyone ignores dungeon rotation for assassin :/
is it ok unrelenting blade in the off hand with instant potion and paper cutter in the main with deadly poison?
unrelenting blade is pretty bad.
just buy another Papercutter from the auctionhouse for a few gold and play double papercutter till u get a better dagger.
and yes Mainhand deadly and offhand instand poison
My man, I have Sinister + Papercut - should I Sinister as MH (instant) with Paper as OF (Deadly)?
the dps difference should be less than 10, so you should not even feel it.
most people recommend Sinister MH (with instant) and Papercutter OH (with deadly)
kricks bettle ,heartshiver and librarian what should i do
Kricks and Hearthshiver are not available on the live servers right now.
so double papercutter is a solid choice till u get any daggers from Naxx
quick question why not open with garrote for points into snd and able to cast hunger for blood?
1. I pre Pot (haste) every bossfight 1 second before pull, so I am getting out of stealth and I can take another pot when CD is ready.
2. first attacks are not always directly behind the boss, tank needs maybe to turn it around
3. if u start in stealth and behind boss and have no other spec in raid which can apply bleeding, then u can start with Garrote
@@mulltiy can still be solved by being out of stealth pre pop stealth sprint to position for the boss and open garrote to snd hunger for blood then mute to envenom or cold blood envenom using overkill to buff its damage or save cb for heroism with vanish envenom. Depending on how fast the boss dies
@@ryanphillips7182 Opening with Mutilate is always better if you have a warrior that can bleed. Which is basically every raid at the moment!
Ideal situation in 10 and 25 you have a class like Feral druid or Warrior that puts bleeds up for you, putting your own bleeds up to get hunger is a pretty hefty dps loss
what heirloom gear would be the best for leveling? seems kind of awkward for rogues
the rogue was my first character here on wotlk and NA server so had not heirloom gear. on my pala I use weapon, chest and shoulders (I guess thats all what is possible). and yes, leveling Rogue is very very awkward xD. u have zero AOE till 80. just take it like it is and enjoy max level even more then
thanks for sharing
no problemo
I have Murder, Papercutter and Fleshshaper. which should I equip?
Murder MH fleshshaper OH
Papercutter MH, Murder in OH
@@mulltiy 👍
which weapon is better? Murder or Twilight Mist?
in combination with Papercutter (which only should cost around 20g) is Murder better.
Paper Mainhand, Murder Offhand.
but we start here talking about maybe 1% diff, so its very very minimal
Ahh so you only use rupture for hunger for blood. I always try to hit max combo before rupture on bosses.
yes sadly rupture is a dmg loss, so I only do it to apply Hunger for Blood.
@@mulltiy Changed my rotation tonight, and finish nr 1 dps 10 mans voa, never done that before. Thank you ✌🏻
@@sigurdwerdammen1494 you welcome Bro
@@sigurdwerdammen1494 same for me yesterday in 25 Naxx, was always top3 after watching this quick guide
on which Server you playing?
Grobbulus
is it okay if i get 2 fast weapons like Dustbringer for assassination rogue?
it is ok/good to have two fast daggers.
but dustbringer would not be my first choice.
2x webbed death is strong, and 2 times liberian Papercutter also works, maybe in mix with a murder (1.5 speed).
if u fresh level 80 u can go for 2x papercutter (should cost around 20g in auctionhouse) and then trying to get fleshshapper for offhand from HoS Heroic or any other dagger from the raid as offhand
@@mulltiy I just hit 78 and I was stuck with that brutal dagger,lost some stats but overall seems like a dps changer
Nice
thanks
which race is best for assa rogue?
for assa rogue it does not matter really much in my opinion, cuz u going for daggers
@@mulltiy ok thanks. you know if race changes will come in wotlk classic?
Wil you make a video for combat rogues? I just got the nax 25 fist weapon and I’ve been told it’s bis for combat rogues.
This video helped me a lot.
I was using deadly poison on both weapons and was at the bottom of charts in nax 25 running assassination.
not sure if I make a video about combat rogue in the next few days/weeks cuz Combat Rogues are not bad but Assa is definitely the superior spec atm. Only reason for Assa Rogue would be if ur Raid has no Warrior and especially no Arms Warrior. But yes the Fist Weapon is super strong, congrats to it
Just one correction which I’m you kinda said right the first time but then misspoke, you’d definitely want your fast weapon in the Main hand with deadly poison and the slow weapon in offhand with instant. Otherwise great video!
yes exactly. Mainhand fast with deadly, Offhand slow with instant
mainhand slow with instant. bigger ability dmg and energy return
@@tomik6537 thats wrong.
one of the rare weapon combinations you would do that would be Sinister + Papercutter.
besides that 99% of the weapon combinations are better if fast weapon in mainhand with deadly, slow offhand with instant.
u can also read that in the linked text guide from Simonize
@@tomik6537 Your only ability dmg spell is mutilate and it uses both daggers equally. Pretty much every other spec in the game you're correct, but not for mutilate rogue. Because offhand weapons have a lower hit chance, you put your faster weapon in main hand for more poison procs which are buffed by envenom.
@@mattjoines9048 no, that is not the reason
hello
dude this shit is legit just you reading off of simonize's wowhead guide, which hes made alot of videos for already, for example, the rotation section literally has a screenshot of simonizes wowhead guide, you didnt even come up with that rotation. And that same guy whos made that guide your reading from also made a video guide.
Also you didnt even mention energy pooling and envenom timing at all, which is like assass's only nuance lfmao.
hey hey, didnt even look at the author of the wowhead guide and surely I appreciate Simonenize Work so far. I linked the guide as well on my video, so its crediting him and I also think/hope he can a few more views cuz if my vids.
I had not the feeling to make a complete own BiS List vor example if nearly all items which makes sense are already listed there.
but thanks for your critic anyways, next clip which will go in this direction I try to go a lil bit more individual. see ya and have a nice evening
Talkin what you need to do for best dps as rogue. Then i look at your parses and i just closed window xD
I mean,nothing personal but talkin about how to pump and then i see your logs and u not pumping,thats funny view.
ye I have two bosses left with less than 95+, can definitely do better there, and hopefully will next raid without dying at KT cuz mindcontrol xD.
if you already on 99+ average than I guess u dont even need a guide. but glad I could help anyways
Missing Lightning Reflexes YIKES! 10% melee haste on a spec that is all about white hits Y I K E S. Advising glyph of fan of knives instead of glyph of backstab or even glyph of rupture YIKES! Opening rotation that does not include Garrote and INSTANTLY Hunger for blood buff for literally the most crucial first seconds of the fights when everything has procced and you want max damage YIKES! Please git gud before making guides cause people are actually watching these…
Hi, not sure if you were realizing that this Guide is for Assa Rogues in WotLK Classic.
if you use Rupture (+ Rupture Glyph) and things like Garrote or Backstab then I really think you talking about Sub Rogue maybe or Retail WoW (dunno how you play Rogue there)
but what you say there makes really zero sense regarding to Assa Rogue in WotLK.
but thanks anyways for your comment 👍