I don’t know why television and movie industry makes so much garbage when our world history has enough to never run out of ideas! This docudrama is excellent. I’m sure I will watch again! Thank you for posting it!!❤
Because making non fiction takes work. Making fictional shows, with the same taboos, same tingle spots, same structure is EASY and people go to the 0 nutrition shows.
Highly underrated in many World History classes and courses. They are praised highly in the art world though... thankfully. I find them quite fascinating too.
All historic families, all history in general is extremely fascinating to me. This video quartet is very very well told, but it could just as well have been done badly (e.g. most of what the History Channel puts out), and not been anywhere near as intriguing. If you enjoyed this, read _April Blood,_ by one of the commentators used to make this video. It provides way more (often horrific) details of the assassination (and bloody aftermath) than what is shown here.
Don't let that philosophy lead you to "feel her softly" or feel him softly" a lil too soon and before your time big fella/missy! "There is a place for everything, and everything in Its place!" #QuoteFromTheHauntingMovie Discipline - - - - - always has, and always WILL be key; especially the moment "rightv& wrong" is deciphered properly, by and large... #YOLO.... 👍🏾 #ToLiveIsToHaveAClock #EternityCannotBe... "Lived,"for a clock can never equate "EVERLASTING!" ✝️☪️☸️☯️🛐✡️ 🖐🏾....🍞 ○ ● ✌🏾....🐋
+Riccardo Muscatello - I agree, mostly. The portrayal was well done, excepting Lorenzo's facial features, which were not at all like the actor's (IMO). Here's from Lorenzo's death-mask: 2.bp.blogspot.com/-dOCkjtFvYSc/UWNVhU-G-6I/AAAAAAAAAcU/RXSdW2J5KaE/s1600/lorenzodeathmask.JPG
Wonderful series. Lorenzo de Medici was a true patron of the arts. If he had not taken Michelangelo at 13 under his wings, who knows where this magnificent artist might have ended.
He had two choices: 1. Not burn his own paintings and being burned alive with the paintings as fuel. 2. Burn his own paintings and live. Wich one would you have chosen?
Or a SJW banning free speech in the name of holy anti-racism and equality. "By any means necessary" is their favourite refrain (referencing Malcolm X).
Savonarola made the routine doctrinal mistake of proclaiming that 'Sin' is an external force shaped by things around us. But as Kierkegaard put it "We are not sinners because we sin - we sin because we are sinners." Burning prostitutes completely misses the point - he should have burned the men who used them (which was just about everybody!) Perhaps he should have looked within himself - he displayed most of the 'Seven Deadly Sins' on a regular basis
Great documentary. Fascinating. The crimes committed by the inquisition and others in the name of God. Chills to think of the works art, literature lost to humanity.
good riddance....we don't need anything from them ... achieving real communism is the only real justice for the damage trash like Medici has done to humanity
How could professor James Saslow know "anything but Jesus" was in the heart of Botticelli? Let´s see..."teaching interests focus on the Italian Renaissance and Baroque period, with special interests in gender and sexuality in art...". As we speak, Christians preaching the Gospel are being arrested in the UK and Europe, under Pride-ideology. "Christian pastor arrested for making 'homophobic statements' after preaching from the Bible, says he was treated 'shamefully' - and was 'doing what my job description says'": John Sherwood, 71, was led away in handcuffs, questioned in a police station and held overnight after being accused of making homophobic comments outside Uxbridge Station in west London." No matter, this world shall pass. 2. TIMOTHY 3: "12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."
"Power is a loaded gun - Politics is knowing when to pull the trigger." (Mario Puzo - The Godfather.) The phrase could have been written about the Medici family, especially Lorenzo
The song with the high pitched woman singing it's the "Senza Vo theme (aria) "if your looking for the one with the guys that you would think were in a cult and began singing at 7 min saying something like toremo its "Torneremo".
I would actually like to know the name of the other song... the more..darker one for lack of a better word. It gave me chills. I’ll try and leave a time stamp on another comment
I always found it funny how those who believe in God so devoutly come along and try to create jesus' s paradise here on earth, commits every mortal sin known to man to achieve it. The irony of it has never been lost on me.
Yes,isn't it ironic...we must be like minded because I've thought exactly the same thing...Acts that go against everything God stands for ...to appear Godly...😶
Some inaccuracies though definitely, the Statue of David was not made in defiance of the Medici at all. It was made by Michelangelo honoring Lorenzo because Lorenzo loved Hercules and greek mythos. He wanted to make something similar he would have approved of.
If you believe in a god and his wrath, those that serve him should know more and fear his retribution the most. BUT they don't as they commit the most deplorable acts especially against children and the vulnerable.
phoenixwing50 and destroyed tons. Religion can produce art, but that doesn't mean they should destroy art they wrongfully consider as offensive to Catholicism.
@@ja9349 it is anti-American to force religion or any beliefs onto other people. Might want to take another American history class and pay attention this time.
A perception of time completely different from today! Today's intolerance also depends on this aspect. The relationships are much more volatile, superficial. There is little empathy, and unfortunately today if you do not have emotional intelligence, you risk unnecessarily suffering.
@Tsenka Stoycheva you should dispute the age restriction on this. It's absolutely ludicrous that this or any other historical documentary is labeled as "age restricted"
In today's world I find it near impossible to understand not only Lorenzo's decision to ask for Savonarola's help to not go to hell and Botticelli's decision to burn his paintings and go back on the entire theme that his life's work was based around in favor of Christianity, but I guess religion really was infinitely more prevalent in society back then.
Its disputed whether or not Savonarola damned Lorenzo as he layed on his deathbed. Different sources say that Lorenzo died peacefully, as he listened to the morning songs from the church. By the way, can anyone tell me what did the narrator said at 50:20? "With a new found____".
Given that this programme is about the 15th century, and includes so much detail about the arts and patronage, it seems a particularly crass decision to have included no contemporary music at all but, instead, to subject us to completely incongruous and inappropriate 19th and early 20th century Italian opera throughout.
+Tom Nutts True. But the music around that time wasn't much, and what does exist isn't all that great until after the 1500's. There was Vincenzo Galilei middle of the 1500's with lots of lute pieces. Large orchestra ensembles weren't really gathered until the end of the 1500s. "First Opera" was in Florence 1597. Some folk songs and violins They do play a Gregorian chant.
I agree 100%! Hearing Handel's Hallelujah chorus in the previous chapter drove me crazy. They should have either used period music or followed the Medicis' example and commissioned some contemporary composer to write some appropriate background noise.
Exactly right! I appreciate Early and Renaissance Music, and there’s plenty of it to underscore this series. It’s just plain weird to hear more contemporary music in this context. Opera? Symphonic pieces? Oh, please.
This is a great example of why I still don't trust modern churches. Think of what betrayal the Catholic Church and Savonarola did upon Jesus's apparent original message. How much has our knowledge of Christianity been perverted by these people in history? How much of it has been unconsciously carried through culture to effect us today? I grew up in possibly the most open church possible - the definition of trying to follow Jesus's words of kindness and compassion. And yet, even I heard sermons about how any art or writing I did had to be in service of Jesus Christ somehow, silently implying I was a sinner if I did not. You'd think this would be small, but it screwed me up when I was little. It tore up my self-image as a good, moral person as I was duped into thinking I was inherently evil, since being creative was basically a coping mechanism (low-key maladaptive daydreamer). I struggle so hard with faith and myself to this day because these sick seeds were planted. And where did these ideas come from? Right here. From the dirty, disgusting history of the Catholic Church.
I am so sorry that this happened to you. I grew up bouncing from one Baptist church to another. I had questions at an early age and was getting absolutely no answers that made any sense. Finally years later, I found the answers I was looking for through a certain non denominational Church. Being inspired to watch Shepherds Chapel literally changed as well as saved my life. I sincerely hope that you find the answers and comfort and peace that you deserve. Stay safe. God bless.
+khalij farsi That's what happens when a high cost social system is no longer affordable. In the Medici's case their banking empire ran into trouble. In the case of Iran the price of oil collapsed. In both cases a system of paying people to conform had to be replaced by a system of compliance by force. The people that could bring that system of force to power automatically rose to the occasion. It's a completely natural consequence of the economic reality. It's happened countless times before and it'll happen again. If it's a religious theocracy, personal dictatorship, a new autocratic monarchy or a communist revolution it's just a detail depending on what faction is best placed to take over. My guess is the same thing is bound to happen again with the western democracies simply because they're yet another example of a high cost system based on bribing people to get along and they're facing increasing competition from much lower cost systems elsewhere.
I can't understand why Lorenzo felt the need to beg for redemption from a monk like Savonarola. His Son is a cardinal and the Catholic Church is nothing if not hierarchical. Cardinal beats monk every time. Giovani could pull rank and offer him the spiritual absolution he so desperately wanted... In fact I'm overthinking it... I know enough about Catholicism to be sure that absolution is guaranteed as long as you sincerely repent through a final confession and the administration of last rites. As long as you don't sin somewhere between confession/last rites and death, absolution is guaranteed. That's not something up to the discretion of a priest or a cardinal. Confession & last rites is a surefire get out of Hell free card
Very interesting documentary but the part where Savanorola damns Lorenzo on his death bed is not true. Well it has been refuted anyway. Reports from the time say he died peacefully, listening to that day's gospel. I can't imagine someone going peacefully after being damned on their deathbed.
Sad that HBO didn't give us Rome for seasons 3-5 then segued to the European Rennaissance contrasting contributions of the North (Low Countries) and South (Italy).
If it wasn't for religion we would be out among the stars. Books of religion, written by men, for men, for the exploitation and control of other men and women.
@@bulldogsbob I yes completely ignore the knowledge of educated, rational men of science over the ancient, fanatical ideologies of a corrupt belief system: you are a simpleton beyond measure 😏😏
Piero (the crippled) was their father, while Cosimo the grandfather. Finally, Giovanni was the grand-grandfather (the father of Cosimo, I didn't know how to call it)
It’s interesting how narrators choose words for sensual lust as “freedom” and “liberty”. When it’s really being enslaved by your passions. If you read this part by a religious person he’ll paint the bonfire scene as a great conversion in Florence
It's better being enslaved by your passions than being enslaved by a clerical mafia pretending to be intermediaries between a supposed 'God' and humans who can tell you what to do [or even kill you for refusing to believe their lies] when in fact they don't even understand what True Spirituality [or even the Gospels] really mean. And I am speaking generally about Theist religions including the supposed 'Religion of Peace' whose backward believers have just massacred Christians in Nigeria and posted a video boasting of beheading an innocent man in Udaipur. Whatever the crimes of the Medici [in terms of corruption and assassination], the Renaissance they engendered helped free Europe from the tyranny of the Church and Churchianity [which is not Christianity]. As Raymond Schwab detailed in his Oriental Renaissance, there was in fact a second Renaissance in 19th Century Germany - which transformed European Culture [inspiring Romanticism] and Knowledge {German Transcendental Idealism and even the New Physics] as much as the Italian one did - inspired by the translation of the Sanskrit texts, especially the Upanisads, which taught true Spirituality - the transformations of Consciousness that lead to enlightenment. The early Jesuits in India described the Upansidic knowledge (Vedanta) as the natural Light of Spirituality devoid of ritual trappings and superstitious distortions - and they hoped that such rational spiritual philosophy [which challenged Theistic myths] would transform Europe which was still stuck in dogmatic Christian scholasticism.
Isn't a passion of passion, nor of carnality kind sir: it is what we as humans were by and large; created to be drawn unto, whether you are celibate before or after laying with a woman OR, wven if you never have at all...! The nature of translation your feels of a female by "action," IS, a physical thing to partake in: how it is "demonstrated" , let alone; EXPRESSED, is a bigger question to ask the individuals in the act of.... relations between man & woman dubbed "physical" or "carnal" is just someone looking for a reason to deduct cool points from the "original" idea of man & womankind enjoying one another in the best form of interactions....
I'm not in any way sympathetic to reaction against the Renaissance, but I do wonder what the state of things was in terms of morality in those networks of patronage and privilege that Medici created, if a reactionary monk could come in and clean house so destructively. Apparently these Citizens of Florence had some bad consciences or weak moral defenses. BTW What an odd and questionable use of Malcolm X's quite legitimate and useful phrase "By Any Means Necessary"...
Yes. It was ordered by Savanarola, the pyschopathic monk. He opined on all that he preached were directly from God. He and followers (mainly children) having gained power of the city proceeded to burn all possessions he considered "blasphemous" 👹👹
For some reason I find the commentator's voice very irritating. Interesting docu. nevertheless which seems to stick fairly faithfully to the known facts.
Irritating perhaps not, but with poor depth and hard to understand. English seems, not his native laguage! Not many people, can give their voices into docs such as these, takes specific voice depth and hardness.
I don't mind that English is not his native language, it's that effected voice that irritates me as though he's trying too hard to sound like a native English speaker and failing miserably. Give me a genuine accent anyday to that.
I have to watch this series for homework. All four parts of it. The narration, both the voice & the writing, is practically ear grinding. It's so mind-numbingly dull, I may have been crying of boredom at one point. I know, this is unfairly harsh, but that's simply the experience that I ended going up through.
Since we're talking about art and culture that shaped the modern world, it seems pretty crass and degrading to equate this powerful family with criminals in the title and as a repetitive comparison throughout the commentary. Shall we compare Washington to Jesse James and the English Royal Family to British gangster next? Doubt it.
This was the very nature of Florence, though, and a reason it's compared to the Godfather: it is an Italian heirloom of families in power playing the game of thrones, by all means necessary.
That's just power, though. Powerful families always behave this way. The English royal family has behaved horribly...even illegally. They don't get compared to the Kray brothers though, do they?
Catchlove Lovelace these guys literaly did things just like the mafia. had a man murdered to secure power. etc. but they were organized. they dident just do crime for crimes sake like the people you talk about. and were italian.
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I don’t know why television and movie industry makes so much garbage when our world history has enough to never run out of ideas!
This docudrama is excellent. I’m sure I will watch again!
Thank you for posting it!!❤
Because making non fiction takes work.
Making fictional shows, with the same taboos, same tingle spots, same structure is EASY and people go to the 0 nutrition shows.
Im beginning to think that the Medici were the most interesting family in the whole of Europe.
With Machiavelli as a wingman, they'd better be! The only other contender would be the Borgias.
Highly underrated in many World History classes and courses. They are praised highly in the art world though... thankfully. I find them quite fascinating too.
me Too, iam really fascinated by this family
Alex da Vinci House Savoy is cool
All historic families, all history in general is extremely fascinating to me. This video quartet is very very well told, but it could just as well have been done badly (e.g. most of what the History Channel puts out), and not been anywhere near as intriguing. If you enjoyed this, read _April Blood,_ by one of the commentators used to make this video. It provides way more (often horrific) details of the assassination (and bloody aftermath) than what is shown here.
This documentary had better casting than all the tv shows and movies set in the Renaissance.
"How beautiful is youth, gone so soon. Let he who would be happy, seize it."
Renaissance for YOLO
twiggyjali hahahahaha!!! Brilliant mate!!
😂😂😂✌
It’s almost like carpe diem ”seize the day” was a thing before YOLO 😳😮🫨
🙈🙉🙊
Don't let that philosophy lead you to "feel her softly" or feel him softly" a lil too soon and before your time big fella/missy!
"There is a place for everything, and everything in Its place!"
#QuoteFromTheHauntingMovie
Discipline - - - - - always has, and always WILL be key; especially the moment "rightv& wrong" is deciphered properly, by and large...
#YOLO.... 👍🏾
#ToLiveIsToHaveAClock
#EternityCannotBe...
"Lived,"for a clock can never equate "EVERLASTING!"
✝️☪️☸️☯️🛐✡️
🖐🏾....🍞
○
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✌🏾....🐋
i really like the choice of the cast, the actor that plays Lorenzo really feels like you would imagine him
+Riccardo Muscatello - I agree, mostly. The portrayal was well done, excepting Lorenzo's facial features, which were not at all like the actor's (IMO). Here's from Lorenzo's death-mask:
2.bp.blogspot.com/-dOCkjtFvYSc/UWNVhU-G-6I/AAAAAAAAAcU/RXSdW2J5KaE/s1600/lorenzodeathmask.JPG
Wonderful series. Lorenzo de Medici was a true patron of the arts. If he had not taken Michelangelo at 13 under his wings, who knows where this magnificent artist might have ended.
Lorenzo de Medici had no bodygards, and himself was one for his father - on a lonely road? What were they thinking? Were they?
@@vrfvfdcdvgtre2369 Im thinking in those times you could not trust anyone.
Having a bodyguard is like hiring a traitor.
I can't believe Botticelli listened to Savonarola and put his own paintings in flames. After he's worked so hard?
He had two choices:
1. Not burn his own paintings and being burned alive with the paintings as fuel.
2. Burn his own paintings and live.
Wich one would you have chosen?
it was his life or paintings
Benedict Chinweuba he was stoned off his head
You had to be there .....
Yet, Michelangelo manages to save his life and his works and fled....
Savanarola today would probably be a fire and brimstone televangelist from the Dallas area.
LOL.....you win the internet!!
Great comment!!😊
andxx0r_the_second Or a Muslim Wahhabi preacher.
Or a SJW banning free speech in the name of holy anti-racism and equality. "By any means necessary" is their favourite refrain (referencing Malcolm X).
andxx0r_the_second lmao 😂 omg I literally died laughing at your comment lol so true
No, he was mad enuff to get to Pennsylvania Avenue, Trump is merely copying him. Hope that bastard end up the same way
One of the best docos I have ever seen
Savonarola made the routine doctrinal mistake of proclaiming that 'Sin' is an external force shaped by things around us.
But as Kierkegaard put it "We are not sinners because we sin - we sin because we are sinners." Burning prostitutes completely misses the point - he should have burned the men who used them (which was just about everybody!)
Perhaps he should have looked within himself - he displayed most of the 'Seven Deadly Sins' on a regular basis
Great documentary. Fascinating. The crimes committed by the inquisition and others in the name of God. Chills to think of the works art, literature lost to humanity.
good riddance....we don't need anything from them ... achieving real communism is the only real justice for the damage trash like Medici has done to humanity
How could professor James Saslow know "anything but Jesus" was in the heart of Botticelli? Let´s see..."teaching interests focus on the Italian Renaissance and Baroque period, with special interests in gender and sexuality in art...".
As we speak, Christians preaching the Gospel are being arrested in the UK and Europe, under Pride-ideology. "Christian pastor arrested for making 'homophobic statements' after preaching from the Bible, says he was treated 'shamefully' - and was 'doing what my job description says'": John Sherwood, 71, was led away in handcuffs, questioned in a police station and held overnight after being accused of making homophobic comments outside Uxbridge Station in west London."
No matter, this world shall pass. 2. TIMOTHY 3: "12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."
I watched this frequently on Netflix when I was a subscriber. So glad you posted them here. Missed the drama and richness of the Medici docuseries.
"Power is a loaded gun - Politics is knowing when to pull the trigger." (Mario Puzo - The Godfather.)
The phrase could have been written about the Medici family, especially Lorenzo
The song with the high pitched woman singing it's the "Senza Vo theme (aria) "if your looking for the one with the guys that you would think were in a cult and began singing at 7 min saying something like toremo its "Torneremo".
I would actually like to know the name of the other song... the more..darker one for lack of a better word. It gave me chills. I’ll try and leave a time stamp on another comment
Newton's 3rd Law: for every Medici, there is a Savonarola; for every Renaissance, there is a Revelation.
No....for every oppressor like the Medici, there is a revolution to overthrow and destroy them.
I always found it funny how those who believe in God so devoutly come along and try to create jesus' s paradise here on earth, commits every mortal sin known to man to achieve it. The irony of it has never been lost on me.
Yes,isn't it ironic...we must be like minded because I've thought exactly the same thing...Acts that go against everything God stands for ...to appear Godly...😶
One could say the same of Socialism.
The rabbit offerings to lorenzo looked like fake stuffed animals.
Now I understand why the guards didn't let the guy in.
That's Cause THEY WERE, Fake Stuffed Animals...
#CrazyHuh
I imagine that many artists gave up painting, once they saw Leonardo's work.
I think that if the Medici Family made it to the Italian reunification, they would have made the best royal family
They still rule behind the shadows
*godfather theme plays*
*x-files theme plays*
The Medici's were devil worshippers, this documentary is whitewashed history for the ignorant masses.
The Sharper Sword said by a devil worshiper
Some inaccuracies though definitely, the Statue of David was not made in defiance of the Medici at all. It was made by Michelangelo honoring Lorenzo because Lorenzo loved Hercules and greek mythos. He wanted to make something similar he would have approved of.
it wasn't michaelangelos david
Kinda ironic that in the end, Savanorola would be thrown on the fire himself.
fucking good
It's like watching Ramsey Snow getting eaten by his hounds.
If you believe in a god and his wrath, those that serve him should know more and fear his retribution the most. BUT they don't as they commit the most deplorable acts especially against children and the vulnerable.
He claimed that he's so pious and holy that god would not allow him to be burned if he'd walk into the fire. ''sadly''... god couldn't care less!
Karma is a bitch :)
Damn, Savonarola literally has no chill. Like, calm ya ass down man
yay for atheist koalas
Why does religion always have a way in ruining advancements of the human race, in this case, art. I'm a little bit pissed.
Andre Dman Religion was responsible for a ton of art.
phoenixwing50 and destroyed tons. Religion can produce art, but that doesn't mean they should destroy art they wrongfully consider as offensive to Catholicism.
Kaulana Chun What about Communist Cathrines??
The ending was so discouraging and disgusting. Savanorola was the real demon who deserved eternal damnation.
lol no....he was the only rational one
@@jokers7890 ?????, as rational as a rabid dog👹👹
You’re learning from how many and which sources?
i love these videos
nobody cares what you love
I love how everyone just stares at the guy who stabbed Giuliano like, "Dude, you just ruined our Easter. What the hell's your problem?"
Indeed: Savonarola = sharia law
William no name you mean christian law?
He is making a connection to the modern day world. Sharia law and Christian law are, in this case certanly, not verry differen from one another.
sharia law fuck off
@@ja9349 it is anti-American to force religion or any beliefs onto other people. Might want to take another American history class and pay attention this time.
A perception of time completely different from today!
Today's intolerance also depends on this aspect. The relationships are much more volatile, superficial. There is little empathy, and unfortunately today if you do not have emotional intelligence, you risk unnecessarily suffering.
I love this series watching it again for the 4th time!
Higher You Go More Dangerous It Become's
This soundtrack is amazing
@Tsenka Stoycheva you should dispute the age restriction on this. It's absolutely ludicrous that this or any other historical documentary is labeled as "age restricted"
Amazing Editing!!
very good documentary
Savanorola: this is what happens when young people grow up without having a healthy idea of their own sexuality.
You are right
What is it with that "whip yourself" penance. F that.
Or he like all Christians hate sin
Bro, Michelangelo was only 13 when he was making that demon head????oh my fucking god
I love the music in the background
I need the soundtrack to this masterpiece
In today's world I find it near impossible to understand not only Lorenzo's decision to ask for Savonarola's help to not go to hell and Botticelli's decision to burn his paintings and go back on the entire theme that his life's work was based around in favor of Christianity, but I guess religion really was infinitely more prevalent in society back then.
I didnt get that either. Ther3 must have been another priest he could have called on?
Its disputed whether or not Savonarola damned Lorenzo as he layed on his deathbed. Different sources say that Lorenzo died peacefully, as he listened to the morning songs from the church. By the way, can anyone tell me what did the narrator said at 50:20? "With a new found____".
+TheNewRiflemanBob New found fervor
To have power you must make sacrifice
Given that this programme is about the 15th century, and includes so much detail about the arts and patronage, it seems a particularly crass decision to have included no contemporary music at all but, instead, to subject us to completely incongruous and inappropriate 19th and early 20th century Italian opera throughout.
+Tom Nutts True. But the music around that time wasn't much, and what does exist isn't all that great until after the 1500's. There was Vincenzo Galilei middle of the 1500's with lots of lute pieces. Large orchestra ensembles weren't really gathered until the end of the 1500s. "First Opera" was in Florence 1597. Some folk songs and violins They do play a Gregorian chant.
I agree 100%! Hearing Handel's Hallelujah chorus in the previous chapter drove me crazy. They should have either used period music or followed the Medicis' example and commissioned some contemporary composer to write some appropriate background noise.
Exactly right! I appreciate Early and Renaissance Music, and there’s plenty of it to underscore this series. It’s just plain weird to hear more contemporary music in this context. Opera? Symphonic pieces? Oh, please.
Bet you're a laugh at parties
I quite agree.
Why in the world is a Renaissance documentary age restricted?? 🙄
Lorenzo’s wife was pretty 😍
Shoutout to Mr.Power
high sparrow!
Kept thinking that too when I read ASoIaF. You start to see elements of different historical figures in GRRMs work.
This is a great example of why I still don't trust modern churches. Think of what betrayal the Catholic Church and Savonarola did upon Jesus's apparent original message. How much has our knowledge of Christianity been perverted by these people in history? How much of it has been unconsciously carried through culture to effect us today?
I grew up in possibly the most open church possible - the definition of trying to follow Jesus's words of kindness and compassion. And yet, even I heard sermons about how any art or writing I did had to be in service of Jesus Christ somehow, silently implying I was a sinner if I did not. You'd think this would be small, but it screwed me up when I was little. It tore up my self-image as a good, moral person as I was duped into thinking I was inherently evil, since being creative was basically a coping mechanism (low-key maladaptive daydreamer). I struggle so hard with faith and myself to this day because these sick seeds were planted. And where did these ideas come from? Right here. From the dirty, disgusting history of the Catholic Church.
I am so sorry that this happened to you. I grew up bouncing from one Baptist church to another. I had questions at an early age and was getting absolutely no answers that made any sense. Finally years later, I found the answers I was looking for through a certain non denominational Church. Being inspired to watch Shepherds Chapel literally changed as well as saved my life. I sincerely hope that you find the answers and comfort and peace that you deserve. Stay safe. God bless.
Jesuitical Enneagram System developed since at least the 1500s'.. Artist Personna.
Also Tim Fletcher on unwiring Shame'
Cheers Twilight'
It reminds me of Iranian religious revolution !
+khalij farsi That's what happens when a high cost social system is no longer affordable. In the Medici's case their banking empire ran into trouble. In the case of Iran the price of oil collapsed.
In both cases a system of paying people to conform had to be replaced by a system of compliance by force. The people that could bring that system of force to power automatically rose to the occasion. It's a completely natural consequence of the economic reality. It's happened countless times before and it'll happen again. If it's a religious theocracy, personal dictatorship, a new autocratic monarchy or a communist revolution it's just a detail depending on what faction is best placed to take over.
My guess is the same thing is bound to happen again with the western democracies simply because they're yet another example of a high cost system based on bribing people to get along and they're facing increasing competition from much lower cost systems elsewhere.
Nick is woke af. Not even kidding.
this is my life, my love and my home
nobody cares
I can't understand why Lorenzo felt the need to beg for redemption from a monk like Savonarola. His Son is a cardinal and the Catholic Church is nothing if not hierarchical. Cardinal beats monk every time. Giovani could pull rank and offer him the spiritual absolution he so desperately wanted...
In fact I'm overthinking it... I know enough about Catholicism to be sure that absolution is guaranteed as long as you sincerely repent through a final confession and the administration of last rites. As long as you don't sin somewhere between confession/last rites and death, absolution is guaranteed. That's not something up to the discretion of a priest or a cardinal. Confession & last rites is a surefire get out of Hell free card
Too bad the music has nothing to do with the time period. Anachronism. For the rest excellent doc.
Bartje Bartmans I agree wholeheartedly. Btw love you're channel with the scores.
Very interesting documentary but the part where Savanorola damns Lorenzo on his death bed is not true. Well it has been refuted anyway. Reports from the time say he died peacefully, listening to that day's gospel. I can't imagine someone going peacefully after being damned on their deathbed.
Hahahaha. Someone intelligent perhaps. ;)
Am I alone in thinking that Lorenzo was set up by the church?
TheAshleymorris1000 He was left for dead by church officials.
Apparently Lorenzo died a consoled man. From what ancient texts tell us.
Sad that HBO didn't give us Rome for seasons 3-5 then segued to the European Rennaissance contrasting contributions of the North (Low Countries) and South (Italy).
Why no Renaissance music?
14:36 Unfortunate emperor from the most unfortunate empire of it's time
Two extremes collide so sad.
This is the second episode that i watched.
Florence was packed with "new christians", and so far, they don't touch the subject.
6;54 what is that song or melody. i can`t find it. a man of culture pleaseee help me
Like always religion has to be an obstacle to progress in all factions
If it wasn't for religion we would be out among the stars. Books of religion, written by men, for men, for the exploitation and control of other men and women.
That shows an ignorance of history.
Stop reading Richard Dawkins.
@@bulldogsbob I yes completely ignore the knowledge of educated, rational men of science over the ancient, fanatical ideologies of a corrupt belief system: you are a simpleton beyond measure 😏😏
Yeah man, always happens throughout the history of time; Artists Create 'Paradiso' ; Reformers reform it.
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The soundtrack did not have to go so hard
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Could anyboby please tell me what is the name of the music, which starts playing on the 8th minute? Appreciate!
+Liudmila Aleroeva Sounds like sometihng by ERA.
even though you asked this question 4 years ago, the song is "Ameno" by ERA. It is on youtube. I really enjoy this song also.
A select few masterpieces though were worth saving a few of those works at the Bonfire Of The Vanities?
How. Many master pieces had been destroyed 😢
7:03 what is the music
Gregg Locke, modern day American Savonarola.
When I think about it, it kinda makes sence because of the war, but 18 years old limit is a bit of an exaduration.
Ahhhh...wonderful religion at its finest again.
Savanarola the Fundamentalist/High Sparrow/Social Justice Warrior.
A Christian should be a fundementalist Jesus as harsh words for the lukewarm.
Who was Lorenzo and Giulani’s father? Grandfather?
Piero (the crippled) was their father, while Cosimo the grandfather. Finally, Giovanni was the grand-grandfather (the father of Cosimo, I didn't know how to call it)
Cosimo was gramps
This is the second part to a multi part documentary. I suggest you watch part 1 first.
Could anyone please help me to identify the song 8.30min running time of the video, thank you.
Boticelli...NO!!!!!!😭😭😭😭😭
Anyone know where I can find a summary of this?
Can't speak to a summary Mystic....but read Christopher Hibbert's The House of Medici for a great overview...only about 300 pages
La Primavera - there begins the downfall.
It’s interesting how narrators choose words for sensual lust as “freedom” and “liberty”. When it’s really being enslaved by your passions. If you read this part by a religious person he’ll paint the bonfire scene as a great conversion in Florence
It's better being enslaved by your passions than being enslaved by a clerical mafia pretending to be intermediaries between a supposed 'God' and humans who can tell you what to do [or even kill you for refusing to believe their lies] when in fact they don't even understand what True Spirituality [or even the Gospels] really mean. And I am speaking generally about Theist religions including the supposed 'Religion of Peace' whose backward believers have just massacred Christians in Nigeria and posted a video boasting of beheading an innocent man in Udaipur. Whatever the crimes of the Medici [in terms of corruption and assassination], the Renaissance they engendered helped free Europe from the tyranny of the Church and Churchianity [which is not Christianity]. As Raymond Schwab detailed in his Oriental Renaissance, there was in fact a second Renaissance in 19th Century Germany - which transformed European Culture [inspiring Romanticism] and Knowledge {German Transcendental Idealism and even the New Physics] as much as the Italian one did - inspired by the translation of the Sanskrit texts, especially the Upanisads, which taught true Spirituality - the transformations of Consciousness that lead to enlightenment. The early Jesuits in India described the Upansidic knowledge (Vedanta) as the natural Light of Spirituality devoid of ritual trappings and superstitious distortions - and they hoped that such rational spiritual philosophy [which challenged Theistic myths] would transform Europe which was still stuck in dogmatic Christian scholasticism.
Isn't a passion of passion, nor of carnality kind sir: it is what we as humans were by and large; created to be drawn unto, whether you are celibate before or after laying with a woman OR, wven if you never have at all...! The nature of translation your feels of a female by "action," IS, a physical thing to partake in: how it is "demonstrated" , let alone; EXPRESSED, is a bigger question to ask the individuals in the act of....
relations between man & woman dubbed "physical" or "carnal" is just someone looking for a reason to deduct cool points from the "original" idea of man & womankind enjoying one another in the best form of interactions....
How hard was it get a girl pregnant? To continue the dynasty
they had a very little peepee is why
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Does anyone know who the actor for giuliano is?
realy, larenzo the magnificent and Cosimo's decendents stuff???!!!
I'm not in any way sympathetic to reaction against the Renaissance, but I do wonder what the state of things was in terms of morality in those networks of patronage and privilege that Medici created, if a reactionary monk could come in and clean house so destructively. Apparently these Citizens of Florence had some bad consciences or weak moral defenses. BTW What an odd and questionable use of Malcolm X's quite legitimate and useful phrase "By Any Means Necessary"...
Too many gardeners?
Few phenomena are more ridiculous than precious Anglo academics trying to authoritatively discuss the subtlety of the Italians of this era
savonarola was wildin i wouldn’t have burned shit b
Do any of you know why the Bonfire of the Vanities took place in Italy?
Yes. It was ordered by Savanarola, the pyschopathic monk. He opined on all that he preached were directly from God. He and followers (mainly children) having gained power of the city proceeded to burn all possessions he considered "blasphemous" 👹👹
Any one knows the last song name? From the end?
What’s with everyone offering up rabbits as a gift?
food had more value then
I guess you didn't need a license to trap back then & there..
For some reason I find the commentator's voice very irritating. Interesting docu. nevertheless which seems to stick fairly faithfully to the known facts.
He's italian. he pronounces the names correctly. What more do you want?
RoboBoddicker driving me insane!
Irritating perhaps not, but with poor depth and hard to understand.
English seems, not his native laguage! Not many people, can give
their voices into docs such as these, takes specific voice depth and
hardness.
I don't mind that English is not his native language, it's that effected voice that irritates me as though he's trying too hard to sound like a native English speaker and failing miserably. Give me a genuine accent anyday to that.
I have to watch this series for homework. All four parts of it. The narration, both the voice & the writing, is practically ear grinding.
It's so mind-numbingly dull, I may have been crying of boredom at one point. I know, this is unfairly harsh, but that's simply the experience that I ended going up through.
Κατάλαβα τί ήταν ο Lorenzo και ο Juliano. Ήταν ο William και ο Harry της εποχής :)))
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What music is this?
How is this age restricted?!
lmao who here in Mr. Katz's class watching for a school project and not cus you wanted too
But you should want to learn this history. It had a huge impact on our modern world.
Wut r the opera songs called
Christianity was the ISIS of the Europe, and Girolamo Savonarola was the Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi.
Wrong….didn't IsSIS destroy monuments? Show me the glories of ISIS....0.000000
At 28:57 ... Why???
need answers for mr.fackler part 2 questions. ❤😢🎉😂🙏🎈
At 24:50 .... Why?...
Since we're talking about art and culture that shaped the modern world, it seems pretty crass and degrading to equate this powerful family with criminals in the title and as a repetitive comparison throughout the commentary. Shall we compare Washington to Jesse James and the English Royal Family to British gangster next? Doubt it.
This was the very nature of Florence, though, and a reason it's compared to the Godfather: it is an Italian heirloom of families in power playing the game of thrones, by all means necessary.
That's just power, though. Powerful families always behave this way. The English royal family has behaved horribly...even illegally. They don't get compared to the Kray brothers though, do they?
Except here they did behave like a mafia, and had to do so in order to survive. Nothing demeaning about it, just the way life was.
You've missed my point and are conversing with your own misreading. Carry on.
Catchlove Lovelace these guys literaly did things just like the mafia. had a man murdered to secure power. etc. but they were organized. they dident just do crime for crimes sake like the people you talk about. and were italian.