The Socialism of National Socialism - A Rant
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- Опубліковано 8 жов 2019
- What the hell, let's piss absolutely everyone off.
History professors have worked overtime for nearly 80 years, reframing a political movement with SOCIALISM in the title... to mean anything but. And that's lovely. Until you actually analyze the policies of those in the movement. Grab your snorkel. We're diving deep on this rant.
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Random alarming fact: In the process of looking for Reichstag speech transcripts, I happened upon a website that had them all, translated into English.
www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Hitler%20Speeches/Hitler%20Speech%201941.01.30.html
At the top of the page was a link that said "Click here for Video Excerpt on UA-cam". Being a video producer, I figured that would be better to watch than just me reading a speech.
So I click.
'This video has been removed for hate speech'.
HISTORY...
...was removed from UA-cam for Hate Speech.
Glad to be a part of it.
Which one, history or hate speech?
The Rageaholic anything that doesn’t comply could be perceived as threatening, shut it the fuck down
Remind me again when we were able to look at controversial portions of history without censorship. Because I am starting to think that time in my life where that was the case was just a fever dream born from idealism. Seriously what is this insanity!?
Altcensored.com has an archive of all banned videos from UA-cam due to their authoritarian views. Free downloads as well. Youre welcome
Authoritarian fascists covering up information revealing that they're authoritarian fascists? Somehow I'm not surprised.
"yeah but real feudalism has never been tried" -Silicone Valley
Yea, people would have a hoot with the right of prima nocta.
Jus primae noctis, the boggie man of medieval Europe....no one can ever really find an example of during the time period...
Thanks Braveheart, your movie on a historical figure had no history in it...gg.
*firm handshakes all around*
@@Possiblyabandaid Braveheart is about as historic as Asterix and Obelix just less funny
@@Possiblyabandaid braveheart is about as historic as the Iron Maiden being a real thing or vikings wearing horned helmets.
@Charles Lee Ray yes that's what my comment is parodying.
"Hitler died like 50 years ago"
Norm: "Really? I didn't know he was sick?"
😂😂😂😂
You know, the more I hear about that Hitler guy...
Norm McDonald is a treasure.
So, wait, he doesn't know a major politician from one of the most well known European countries, but he does know some arcane middle eastern religion that almost nobody practices?
@@l337pwnage no..... he was telling a joke.... a really simple joke. Everybody knows who hitler is and that he died. The joke was him pretending to not know.
@@JimmyTurner I'll give you a chance to think about your reply.
It is hilarious how one of razor's detractors was trying to call him a Nazi or a fascist because he dared to read.
I swear, this world is looking more like Farenheit 451 and 1984 day after day.
Digital Apex
More like “A Canticle for Leibowitz”, actually, but with the “Simpleton Cult” somehow coming about BEFORE the nukes.
@@DigitalApex Or a parody of those books...
@@DigitalApex yeah unfortunately the Left mistook those books as how-to books, instead of cautionary tales.
Not just that he dared to read, but to comprehend what he had read.
The Deus Ex playstyle analogy really hit home. (For me, it was a combination of stealth and blaze... also known as hard ambushing.)
I read directly from the Nazi 25 point plan to a socialist, and their response was something along the lines of "Yeah, well they were lying."
The cope is unreal.
Just yell them real Nazism has never been tried.
Touche'...got in a argument with some Leftist fool who used ad hominem attacks after I said i didnt agree with his original statement...he then re-quoted himself using completely different concepts ...when I pointed that out he proceeded to tell me I was intellectually incapable of grasping ideas and said I wasnt worth having a conversation with in the first place. These fucks are truly deranged. Its like debating with a 5yr old...when they dont get there way they start screaming or want to smash something. To re-quote you....the cope is unreal.
But... They literally were. The 25 point program was a propaganda pamphlet they never had any plan to implement, and hitler condemned most of it in private to other party officials. Maybe you just don't know what you're talking about?
@@Gvjrapiro then what was the NSV? National Socialist People's Welfare? Did that not exist or since it wasn't the completely abolishing all private property its still right wing?
@@cheeseburger12 Given that it was an organization used for the sole purpose of the repression of actual welfare/worker organization systems, yeah i'd say it was pretty right wing. Or do you just think welfare = socialism?
"He died 50 years ago...."
"Really? I didn't even know he was sick..."
Stealing this....
That shit was hilarious.
I'm so glad razorfist likes Norm macdonald as much as i do
Norm is a fucking genius.
Anderson Vieira same
F
I came across someone on Facebook claiming that "Nazi being short for National Socialism" was a Right Wing Conspiracy Theory.
Nazism doesn't even actually stand for national socialism as the former is actually a pojorative. Namely at no point throughout Hitlers Mein kampf does he ever refer to himself as a Nazi.
It was a conspiracy by whoever translated the term national socialist from the German words for national and socialist.
Wait
Technically Nazi isn't the short for NatSoc, it was a word made up. But it's pretty much another word to refer to the NatSoc party by.
@@macabweu7682 used initially to mock them by comparison to the ‘Sozis’.
As I’m sure most here know their actual acronym was NSDAP.
From few Hitler speeches i saw. It seems they refered themselves as German Workers or German Labour Party.
I can’t wait to hear Razor’s response to Arnold Schwarzenegger telling us all “screw your freedom”. Last time an Austrian obsessed with genetic perfection told us that... it didn’t end well.
Surprisingly he used to be a republican, although conservative or libertarian would be much better but hey.
@@jimmyscotts4924 libertarianism, and especially objectivism are inseparable from INDIVIDUALISM, who is the the archenemy of Both Marxist Socialism and NationalSocialist Socialism, that are the definition of Collectivism.
Eric Brown, the Fleet Air Arm's most decorated living pilot, stated in a 2014 BBC documentary: "I actually witnessed Hitler shaking hands with Jesse Owens and congratulating him on what he had achieved." More than that, Hitler sent him an inscribed commemorative cabinet photograph of himself, according to The Baltimore Sun in August 1936, which Owens kept. The German runner Carl “Luz” Long, befriended Owens, trading tips as they trained.
The notion that Germans actively hated every not-white race, to the point of genocidal rage, is false. Nazi Germany, and imperial Germany before it, always had a good relationship with South America. Imperial Germany wanted Mexico as an ally. Hitler wanted to give vast amounts of territory back to the Indians (because he liked them), and in WW1 Lettow Vorbeck beat the everloving crap out of the allies in Africa, with thousands of black soldiers. He was undefeated. Germany surrendered, he never lost a battle.
@@Dunge0n It was either because he liked the indians or because he was trying to get them to undermine the american war effort. Although I imagine if he won if would have gotten along with them
@@Dunge0n The Nazi eugenic views were about on par with late 1800s early 1900s American eugenics. Hitler more so wanted elements that he felt undermined the state removed.
Now had Hitler just exiled jews and gypsies then maybe we would view him differently but he went off the rails and decided to commit genocide.
"All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.
"
Benito Mussolini
And yet TimeGhost History will claim fascism "does not in any way embrace an abolishment of private property, plan economy, or statist intervention into private enterprise"
@@ctrlaltdebug They really don't, the fascists created what is called capitalism in decay even Trostky analyzed this.
@@olehsztul6177 Lenin as well. Marxists saw fascism as the last stand of capitalism. A reactionary ideology that tried to fight back the revolution.
@Wyatt Earp I didn't know that, but I saw that his sources are biased and pro-socialist.
@Paul Tello Nah communism is pretty pagan.
“We are not a charitable institution but a Party of revolutionary socialists.” - Joseph Goebbels
Just saw a post in r/historymemes that immediately made me think of this video.
The post was "room filled with historians who believe the nazis were socialist" and underneath that was a picture of william dafoe saying "how strange, there's no one here"
And of course the comments are all a circlejerk of "Just because they call themselves socialist doesn't mean they're socialist"
So effectively, according to reddit, it doesn't matter what they actually were and the works they actually wrote. What matters is what a *select group of people believe they are* .
Well Reddit is basically Twitter's slightly less retarded brother so that shouldn't be surprising.
So, by that logic, National Socialists weren't Socialists because other's declare they weren't? Then the Affordable Care Act wasn't affordable because a lot of people (me included) say it's policies didn't make healthcare affordable.
@@servicerifle16 That's debatable.
Ha, lol. no what they were and wrote matters quite a fuckton.
And yknow, if you weren't fucking braindead you'd know that what they did and wrote wasn't in any fucking way socialism.
You in no way proved me wrong. You just called me braindead and pretended you won. Kindly fuck off.
I love how leftists will say that antifa are anti-fascists because "it's in the name", but they seem to not like that line of logic when addressing nazis.
Nice pfp
So fighting actual fascists and being diametrically opposed to say the proud boys, who are indeed fascists, they are somehow still fascists? Hmmm makes me think the razorfist or whatever his annoying voice screeches might just be a fascist and is using his political agenda to muddy the waters of it's meaning on purpose. That was a cringe 16 minutes haha
@@vans1788 how are the proud boys fascists?
@@drunkduck9854 how are they not fascists?
@@vans1788 answer my question first then I'll answer
Unless I’m mistaken, Marx once said that the end goal of socialism is communism
It was Lenin! cheers
@@bobbybyom5748
Lenin, Marx.
Poteto, Potato.
Communist cunts, all the same.
Fuck them.
@@mistahsusan2650 For all of Marx's faults (and Christ above did that 19th-century equivalent of an "intellectual blogger" have a few), the gist of his work in stuff like Das Kapital can basically be summed up as channeling the spirit Adam Smith angrily yelling "OI! ACTUALLY READ THE WHOLE BOOK, NOT JUST THE BITS YOU LIKE YA DAFT DIDDYS!!" at 19th-century industrialists for completely ignoring the whole 'a worker should be learned and educated' concept from _The Wealth of Nations_ followed by an angry German "OR ELSE!"
Of course, then idiots decided to try and _implement_ the 'or else' part, no thanks to that damn commie Fredrich Engels, who was basically Marx's editor and twisted the actual intent of Marx's writings into commie propaganda by filling in the gaps left by Marx's ideas himself and trying to apply them _outside_ economics. Fucking Engels...
Marx did explain in his metaphysics how you achieve the end goal of elevating Humanity into a higher state. It's very fascinating in a childish sense.
@@DeeperWithDiego well.. Marx was rather childish..
My grandmother lived through a lot of this she taught me a song.. it goes...
Mussolini had a shirt.
Hitler wore it.
Britton tore it.
Now it's in the dirt.
.....
I believe it needs lines added to it.
The dead dream of it.
only needs one more line, "and now I recite the Shahada."
I'm in grad school. 4.0 in history. Just turned in a paper criticizing the far left class material. Used the same sources of socialism in the Nazi party. My professor called it "dubious, messy, without critical thinking."
He's not wrong lmfao
I hear you. I wrote an essay called The S(hell) Game, which was for a prospective television documentary(fictional). The title alluded to the connection between professional hustlers(three card monte dealers, shell game etc) and political ideologies; Socialism, Nazism, Maoism, Stalinism etc. The main thrust of the show was that the purveyors use the same psychological/sociological trickery to delude the "players" (populace) as means to an end. The street hustler, however, does not typically mass murder their players after the game was finished, hence the open and closed parantheses around the word "hell".
I received an A, although the PhD TA marking it took umbrage with me slagging, in particular, the Communists(but not the Nazis).
@@joemadden4160 my professor changed all of my previous grades to 100's so she could fail my final paper, and I get an A for the semester. She knew if I did not get an A I'd have grounds to report and fight her on it.
@@RallyGal94 Big if true. Good job!
@@RallyGal94 That didnt happen
“Socialism is a wonderful idea. It is only as a reality that it has been disastrous.”
--Thomas Sowell
I never liked that description. Even on paper, as an idea, socialism is terrible, because it's built entirely on the premise of theft and holding people back. It is the negation of individualism and agency, and basically says to people "you're too stupid to know how to live your life, so you should let the government tell you what to do."
Even on paper, socialism is a system of narcissism, theft, greed, and denial of individuals and free will.
@@Rockhard1492 they are though. The issue arises when we give the freakin GOVERNMENT the authority.
We put God in the constitution and our courts for a reason.
"Socialism has a history of failure so vast that you have to be an intellectual to ignore it." - also Thomas Sowell
That’s even better than “The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.” from Margaret Thatcher
@@Rockhard1492 Ah yes socialist are thieves, are we going to ignore the 2008 crisis or what?
Excellent. Many years back, for those very reasons you've outlined, I completely stopped using the words "left" and "right" to describe the political landscape. It's amazing how political debate is so utterly stifled by distorting language patterns. In fact I try as much as possible to avoid any ideological label descriptors and simply discuss specific issues on their own merit. It's funny watching people I debate with clam up and not know what to say once they know I refuse to accept the usual political label terminology.
These are the two main directions of humanity. Both have a light and dark side, are intertwined and not complete opposites. Both are needed. To be human means zigzagging between these.
One is, roughly speaking, collectivism. The other is individualism.
@@Aivottaja Yeah, it's basically more government, less individual rights on one side and less government, more individual rights on the other.
The leftists in the 40s and 50s cast Nazis being diametrically opposed, ie, on the right, whereas in reality they're both on the left, only the left is more of a sideways >, with two arms separate arms extending in slightly different directions from the same central point.
@RED PILL PORTAL
At this point, where the left is used to destabilize Western civilization, the left is too ubiquitous and distorted. It's not simply "tyranny". It's regressive collectivism in this context, yes. But not something we should and could completely avoid.
The ones pushing for this imbalance want this kind of conflict. They want you to simplify one side.
Man, didn't expect to see you here. I enjoy your analysis of films very much!
The last person I would expect to see in this comment section.
"Hans is that a Luger in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" - "Mein Freund, it is indeed a Luger AND I am happy to see you"
That was oddly wholesome and not sexual
You get a ironcross for such writing.
"Hans, are we the baddies?"
@@funbro99 No wonder, lugers are tiny! I prefer big-boy guns like the C96 or a .45; they make for a very nice bulge.
"But socialism is left-wing, and nationalism is right-wing. So Nazism is either both or neither! Hurr durr!" - People who think they're informed because they never dared question their teachers.
Tell me any ideology and I'd find you the nationalistic equivalent of it. There were even hard liberal socialists that were also nationalists. III French Republic comes to mind.
this bothers me to no end, and dont seem to hear the end of it soon enough. it's not like the USSR, china, north korea, cuba or venezuela were/are EXTREMELY nationalistic. I guess that alone makes them right wing lol
@Emperor Ssraeshza Absolutely true. A UA-camr called TIK has a very good video explaining the difference between private and public sector, which I recommend people watch before his 5 hour in depth video on why Nazism is in fact a form of socialism. He explains why Nazism could more accurately be called "Racial Socialism", and also explains that Nazism and Fascism are not the same.
they were not socialists, many of the party members explicitly disapproved socialism and even had to murder the northern commander for leaning into communism
@@metalliclark86 Its because having a strong national identity (nationalism) stands in direct opposition to a one world government (globalism)
Conservatives: "Nazis on socialists"
Nazis: "Yes, we are socialists."
Leftists: "Nazis are not socialists."
Nazis: "Are you deaf leftists, we said we are socialists."
Who said they were socialists ?
@@keyan1219 Nazis say they are socialists. They identify a socialists. Leftists believe a man is a woman if he says his is a woman but if a nazi says he is a socialist leftists say he is not a socialists.
@@RichardCranium. lmao when did the nazis say they were socialists and if so when ? These are very important factors
Also dont bring up gender you clearly dont understand it
@@keyan1219 They called their ideology national socialism and they called there party the national socialist German workers party.
@@RichardCranium. yes originally this was to incourage working class support
The korean party is called democratic so yeah it isnt exactly is it
3:24
Hey, look, it's South Africa...today! Post-apartheid.
You know...since 1994: ruled non-stop by the African National Congress.
Razor, you know as well as I do. When the truth becomes inconvenient to propel the ideology you want, just lie.
which is what he's doing
@@Gvjrapiro in what way? I wanna know
@@legendarymarston9174 The world may never know...
@@Gvjrapiro Marxists made this happen to begin with. Authoritarianism bites you in the ass when you make it a thing
@@wishtoboy20 Sorry, didn't get the notification kid.
I like Arch Warhammer's definition of Fascism: "All within the State, Nothing out of the State, and Nothing against the State".
Pretty much hits the nail on the head.
I mean, that’s how the fascists defined themselves.
@@TheNightWatcher1385 Yup, it's literally a Mussolini quote.
It's essentially communism too lol
@@the99throgue25 "communism is when there's a state"
@@Face1essAsh its when everything is nationalized (inside the state).
TLDR:
Socialism: state owns corporations.
Fascism: state holds corporations at gunpoint, owning them in all but name.
Seems like a slippery slope ngl
@@battlinjoe2592 what do you mean? Slippery slope is "a will lead to z because reasons" that wasn't what I said at all. I didn't even do the non facetious version of "a will lead to b, which will lead to c, ect".
@@ethanhinton4549 I know it’s not what you said. It’s just what it looks like to me. There’s a thin line separating the two the way you’re phrasing it from my perspective.
@@battlinjoe2592 well yeah they're both totalitarian regiems that are terrible and shouldn't be taken seriously as a legitimate political position, and use a lot of the same tactics. The most substantial difference between the 2 is rhetoric.
@@ethanhinton4549 That's usually what i say when i see the "debate" about it the National Socialists have been "left of right wing".
Ignore the words and look at the actions.
List how socialism, fascism etc run things and compare who is more similar to who.
Everything else i have always considered bitching about semantics.
Nothing is more expensive than free.
"No such thing as a free lunch."
101st like!!
@@Pimp-Master congrats :)
You will only find free cheese in a mousetrap.
@@Reaverwind There's stealing and free samples in some markets. Then again the latter isn't for long term.
0:00 the exact moment this became demonetized
understandable, have a good day.
Memory hole
N o h t s e e
It’s socialism for the race not just the class
I always thought it was weird how they talked about "privatisation" yet I remember specifically learning in school how the SA walked into factories with guns and mandated decisions to owners and workers taking control for themselves. What a profound respect for private property that is....
The Nazis had a word for what you described: Gleichschaltung
I know this sounds stupid, but it honestly is hard for me to remember that not everyone desires individualism and they really do want the state to dictate everything they do down to what kind of bread they can buy (until it runs out, of course).
Not stupid at all...I find it difficult also, to imagine that people are that brain dead...but they dont call them Sheeple for nothing
Aristotle called them Natural Slaves.
Freedom requires work and strength. Some people just can't handle it.
I don't think it's that they want the state to dictate everything. I think they live in a little bubble of stupidity where they think they can have it both ways. Big Government will make them safe, fat, and happy while somehow not curtailing their own freedoms. Censorship for YOU, but not for me; no guns for YOU but I control the state which has a monopoly on guns; right to privacy for me while YOU are under 24 hour surveillance; right to trial for me while YOU can simply be disappeared; and so on. They think it's only going to affect people who offend them.
@MachineMan1992 Some men are meant to be slaves. The problem is that no man is meant to be a master.
Recently in a conversation someone said to me "That wasnt real socialism"
To which I replied "I dont drove a car, I drive a Toyota"
Look up justice4germans website to get an idea from the perspective of someone who lived those times. Nordic countries welfare system is loosely based on the German NS system, just bolshevised a bit. Unfortunatley the less race based tendency has led the Nordics to their demise with the current immigrant influx. Otherwise look how the Nordics have topped all charts with their "socialism".
I don't believe there has ever been a proper socialist state. I would be willing to discuss this with you if we can first agree on a definition of socialism
@@eoin4172 the common definition revolves around the "collective or state ownership of the means of production"
many current states fit this definition (cuba, venezuela, zimbabwe et al), so let the weasling begin.
@@elLooto It's only a socialist economy if it's controlled by the people through the state. An authoritarian state owning the means of production is not socialism if the workers have no ownership themselves.
@@eoin4172 Im sorry, but thats a distinction without a difference.
In both instances the state is the representative of the people. *HOW* can the former exist, at all, without becoming the latter or ceasing to function in a meaningful way.
Im asking this because if your definition of "socialism" is a practical non-starter, you'll have to admit its an idealist utopia at the outset.
As an example when I say "freedom is the highest ideal of a capitalist society," theres no way i can mean "the ability to do what you when when you want" because that would be a non-starter since its obvious to everyone that would be a state of chaos, which would lead to an end of society. Freedom, however, simply means "an absence of coercion".
and, btw, *YOU* still have not defined socialism.
Man posts his sources. 👍 A lot of us appreciate the work you do Razör. Thank you and God's speed.
If the Left can cry out “Separation of Church and State”, let’s also call for “Separation of Corportation and State”
Yes!!!
Great comment!
Little does the Left know the separation is what empowers the churches.
"Yes, as Eisenhower warned we must beware the military-industrial complex but these days we have to take it a step further, beware the government-media complex"
Dr. Michael Savage
_Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder_ ©2005
The way I see it, the Far Left *is* a church.
15 videos in 3 weeks Rageaholics, count ‘em!
He has A LOT to rant about.
And it isnt even campaign season yet.
Damn son, I knew he was on a roll but dayum.
I really hope this continues. Never enough razorfist.
He started using Cocaine, that's my theory.
I have fell into the pit of explaining Fascism to people who refused to read Mussolini too many times to count.
They will never listen. Collectivist economics, where groups seize control over private property is the opposite of capitalism.
Fascism is collectivist
Communist is collectivist
Both DEMAND that the State seize control over private property, doesn't matter whether the State is headed by a dictator or someone democratically elected, its all authoritarianism.
Collectivism is better than individualistic degeneracy we see int he west(even though Fascism valued individualism to an extent).
Sando both have their faults collectivism results in a government that filled with bureaucracy and inefficiency while individualism leads to degeneracy and greed which goes into globalism and to view your people as a cog
@@sandromnator Individualism is better than collectivism. People should be free to degenerate if they so choose. Collectivism is forced degeneration against those who oppose the collective. Collectivism is hell.
well unless you are an anarcho capitalist then you too have some collectivist tendencies. Paying taxes = collectivism. National defense = collectivism. Country = collectivism. The difference is that communist scum and fascists take it too the extreme. So instead of paying some of your income into a collectivist fund (taxes) then you MUST pay ALL. Also you can have tyranny through democracy (just not as easy obviously) were the majority simply decides to take your private property without compensation. Its why having undemocratic frameworks like the US constitution is so important. Democracy have to work within defined bounds or it too will lead to some really nasty regimes.
@@JWar- it really isnt either or. "People should be free to degenerate if they so choose" to an extent clearly. Any society will fall apart if there is no core common values / culture of behavior.
and if you think you can stand alone under gods own sky then you are naive. Nations and countries came about as a necessary evil to protect the individual. You have to give up some of your freedom for security there are no way around it.
"Collectivism is hell" pure unadulterated taken to its natural extreme sure 100%.
I've all but given up on proving that Nazis were socialists to the modern American socialists because they always inevitably say "no they weren't!" just like they say either "____ wasn't real socialism" or "_____ just didn't do it right".
The cope and cognitive dissonance is chilling.
You can read them facts straight from textbooks, prove every single fiber of the Nazi belief system was left wing in nature, and they still wont budge.
I love how people who claim they hate nazis love socialism.
Because they are fools and starting to think that foolishness is air-born contagious.
yeah, because the nazis hated socialism
@@Gvjrapiro depends on your definition of socialism, but yes
I mean its not an oximoron, you can be socialist and hate the Khmer rouge like vietnam. If you're the target of sayd grup you hate them Reguardless of Economycs. Ancaps hate bazos yes both are capitalists
@@militaristaustrian
No, I mean that's just an objective fact, any historical definition of socialism would reflect that the nazis weren’t socialists.
Too bad I didn't learn this in High School history.
Instead they teach the "horseshoe theory."
They rather teach the watered down bastardized version of history for indoctrination.
There has been a very direct effort to not teach this in school.
If I recall they went with the watered down or did not even mention it when I was in school. No information to back it up aside from revisionists, which I correctly pointed out is not the best source on the matter. Especially considering it falls on a particular fallacy as far as efficacy goes. Yet no one dropped or even mentioned these writings. Goes to show the active avoidance and revisionism going on.
People who actually know something about history, learn lessons from it, and that would mean they would cease being leftist useful idiots for their neo-liberal overlords. The establishment indoctrination agenda that goes by the laughable euphemism we call 'academia' or 'basic education', can't have that.
Man is the ultimate means of production, therefore we must seize man himself.
Man must seize himself. By his shlong.
If you happen to seize a middle-class, hyperintellectual, sixtysomething means of production that you won't be using, let me know?
@@KaeYoss Porn and findoms have got hold of plenty by the schlong straps on the wallet.
somebody should seize the means of razorfart's channel before he makes another teenager kid that much stupider
@@parrotshootist3004 Wow, actually spending money on porn? What century is this?
Got this video recommended right around when The People’s Republic of Canada clapped for a Nazi. Good job, algorithm!
Nice video!
You’ve spurred the revolution against the Hitler was a capitalist indoctrination
Excellent video on Hitler's socialism. Found it enlightening not just on nazism, but fascism and marxism as well. Seeing the replies from your detractors, it really does seem like marxists don't know the philosophy of Marx and Engels.
And while I am surprised that your here but it is good none the less
Love you man, watched the whole was Hitler a socialist video a few times already
@@Ggirtam Marxists are dogmatic morons that don't even agree with the definition of socialism with each other let alone non-Marxist variants of socialism that predate Marx or came after Marx.
Thank you Razorfist for not letting genuine history to be "memory holed" 1984-style.
the irony is amazing, considering George Orwell was a SOCIALIST and fought in the spanish civil war AGAINST THE FASCIST becouse that is what socialist did the last century. What was Francos Spain? The Falangists? God you people are so dense it is amazing.
The Falangist were an alliance of conservatives, big industrial magnates and the military. They were fascists and rose up against the spanish republic who was partly composed of anarchists and socialist.
Reading in this comment section made me lose hope in humanity.
Why do you even refer to 1984, when you obviously have no idea who George Orwell is?
You and everyone who upvoted you are historical revisionists and you are spitting on the graves of everyone who died during the horrors of the second world war.
I wish you only the worst.
@Theant19 that book was literally pro-communist, it ends with the USSR abandoning true communism
@Theant19 Yes, you were too brainwashed to actually read it. The book literally said that the founding ideas of communism were great, but that figures like stalin became capitalists out of greed
@Theant19 Ok? The book went out of it''s way to describe a betrayal of communism, not communism in action. I'm staring to think you didn't even read the book. It's a story of a power hungry dictator who takes over a hopeful group of animals, all while wiping away and editing the very ideals that brought them together. the original ideal are always frame positively, and those are representative of communism.
@@sebastianhoward3304 oh, bud. For one, I really do hope your political opinions grow beyond the fifth grade reading material everyone’s assigned. For two, the story is literally a criticism of how the Soviet Union because essentially indistinguishable from capitalist states. That was the condemnation. How can a story be entirely negative towards an ideology, when the whole story centers around the ideology being good, but the people in charge slowly rewriting it and succumbing to what hurt them in the first place? Have you not read it?
I got moderated on Gamefaqs for saying Nazis were socialist.
Lol!
@Studly Hungwell yes it is.
Probably because they think you have a mental illness
funny, because I distinctly recall countless National Socialists being the ones trying to tell people all along that we are National Socialists -- not 'Nazis'
and I distinctly recall countless anti-Fascists (from both the Left and the Right) being the ones insisting on calling National Socialists 'Nazis' anyway
anyhow, I personally never really did mind the word so much just because it does make for a convenient abbreviation, ..and my point is:
if you ever find yourself being censored (or 'moderated') for calling 'Nazis' 'National Socialists', you can bet that it's not being done by 'Nazis' or 'Fascists'
@Studly Hungwell "Socialism is duty and service to ones nation. This is the old version of socialism that reigned supreme from antiquity to the high Middle Ages." There is no "old version" of socialism. Socialism is an ideology coined by a German Jew named Karl Marx in the 1800s. It's a transitional state between capitalism and communism where the workers seize the means of production. What you're describing would be either feudalism or guildism.
13:50 I love the part about Stalin's constitution saying it would enact "the abolition of exploitation of man by man."
As you can clearly see in socialist countries every bad thing can be abolished by a decree.
He was no man, he was a GOD!!!!!!!
Ah irony
"What is Fascism, you ask ? Why it is like your New Deal!" Benito Mussolini, 1936
In addendum, I'd like to bring modern China into this discussion. They are, avowedly, now nationalist-socialist themselves. They don't appear to be working towards a global communist system where everyone lives in rural 300 person communes, where both private property and the state are abolished. They're working toward a China dominated world where their state is the only state that is permitted to exist, they control everything, and it is all for the good of their gvmt.
How is china not the spitting image of national-socialism? Gvmt owns and controls the means of production, but allows limited corporatist (aka soft socialism) for the specific and explicit benefit of the nation calling itself China. The social-scoring thing is likewise perfectly in line with strict and comprehensive social controls and throttles as implemented by both the german workers nationalist-socialists and italian fascist socialists, just upgraded as technology allows.
Do you think the che-shirt wearing hypocritical self-hating bourgeoisie types who run around LARPing as marxist revolutionaries would be as keen on china if the rest of the world decided to call china nationalist-socialist, like it really and actually is? One can only wonder...since they deny that nationalist socialists were socialist, they'd no doubt find a way to ply the only actual skill any of them have, mental gymnastics, to twist it to call it something else.
You're so worried about China "trying to rule the world"(not their intention, and need a source on this lie anyways).
How about you criticise the empire that ACTUALLY rules the world now? Along witht he bankers of course, the US. China is simply fighting back against Western imperialism.
Sando China will become as bad as the US though if given enough time they were on trial for human organ repurposing of political opposition and have ideas of implementing a social credit system that if applied there or here would effectively lead to a dark age of politics/economics worse than Stalin or Hitler
@@sandromnator Tell that to the other Asian nations who are trying to fight back against China and fear its ever growing expansion into their territories and economies.
Are these other nations also Western Imperials disguised as Asians?
@@sandromnator "China is simply fighting back against Western imperialism" That's a hoot.
Which country is currently in the process of trying to _ignore the treaty they signed on a colony and force it to integrate into the mainland's political control, all the while building up a military presence nearby to suppress local dissent if their puppets can get the natives into line? Oh that's right, it's the People's Republic of China, not the United States!
America only 'rules' the world because it was the "victor" of the Cold War and the fact that they're not absolute jackasses to the rest of the world. America doesn't even conduct any sort of imperialism in the 21st century. Again, that's all China.
They havent started ranting about the superiority of the Chinese race. Yet.
*It's just their economic position*
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There's always that.
Vallis Daemonum ua-cam.com/video/hUFvG4RpwJI/v-deo.html
Socialists notices that the bad guys killing people are other socialists. I know lets add a new Axis to obfuscate ! CULTURE is now a political axis
Even their economics are different though
@@shinku5463 *culturally far right*
It's deeply frustrating how few people truly understand the political spectrum. It's actually way more simple and straight forward then the revisionist "New Left" needs you to believe it is.
The left is about more government, and the right is about less government. Therefore the extreme of leftism is the totalitarian dictatorship, and the extreme right is true anarchism (which is NOT a strain of Marxism or any other leftist revolution, but is instead the fatally flawed notion that society would be better of with NO government whatsoever).
The center-left is the far more practical and popular authoritarianism, wherein an overly powerful government and their cronies hold all the power in a state. The center of the political spectrum is democracy; a well meaning but fumbling step in the right direction, wherein even the slightest majority can decide the fate of the nation, and is invariably tricked into voting away whatever freedom they started with by an opportunistic state party offering "security" (see classical Greece and interwar Europe).
The center-right is actually the most recent, revolutionary, and effective form of state to ever exist; Constitutionalism, the rule of law. This beautiful system uses an all but perfect balance of Judeo-Christian morality and Greco-Roman logic; wherein the rights and freedoms of the citizen are set in stone, and government is LEGALLY LIMITED to the role of public servant and protector. In the constitutional/free state, no one; the dictator, the elite, or even the ravenous majority can ignore your rights and take your freedom, and that's why they all want a "revolution".
So from now on, don't let the "intellectuals" confuse you, or even worry about misleading labels like "liberal" or "conservative". If your politician is trying to explain to you why your freedom is dangerous, they're a run of the mill politician and lefty. But if they're telling you to nut up and embrace the personal responsibilities of your freedom, and that selling it for security is an age old scam; they're a righty and a rarity.
England actually implemented constitutionalism before the vote. A principle that (despite attempted revolutions and coups) has held fast for ~800 years.
Constitutionalism in the West is established to the point of being outright reactionary. Despite the US government successfully overthrowing Britain's constitution, the Loyalists dug their heels in and forced an important capitulation in the form of the Very British US Bill of Rights to replace the founding (and tyrannical) Articles of Confederation.
Ok then. Where does "giving the means of production back to the people and the working class" go. According to your analogy, that would be to the right. Am I wrong? Communists want the abolishment of private property, class, money, and GOVERNMENT. Does that make them right wing? Please respond I genunily want to understand this analogy because its not clicking with me.
@@EastGermany-pc2lw "giving the means of production back to the people" is a lie. You can't rightly give something back to someone that they already had to begin with. And of Communists really want the abolition of government, then I'd love and alternative explanation as to why every Communist revolution in history ended with a single-party totalitarian regime. The answer, as per the video we both watched; is that total top-down government is the only way to even APPROACH the level of socioeconomic control the communists so ardently crave. Without an authoritarian government or an oppressive caste system; class , property and money will be available to any and all who are willing to work for them. That's why "Anarcho-Communism" is yet another example of socialists using words for things they absolutely do no't mean. True anarchy (IE, the total lack of government) is a communist's worst nightmare; because in that world, anyone could have whatever they wanted provided they had the will and the strength to take it. I'm not advocating for anarchy here, I'm just trying to explain the true political binary that leftists/statists don't want the people to be aware of. Because if enough of us understood that the true conflict was between authoritarianism and individual liberty (as opposed to "cool totalitarianism" vs "lame totalitarianism"); America and the West at large would be in real danger of finally realizing it's full potential.
@@greenskull3384 There's a difference between political and economic systems. Political systems are [democratic totalitarian]. Economic systems are [Collectively owned(socialism) Privately Owned(capitalism)]
Its entirely possible for a socialist to come to power democratically. The most obvious example is Salvador Allende. He has an interesting story and you should definitely read something about it. He was overthrow by a coup the CIA spent millions on to replace him with a capitalist dictator called Augusto Pinochet that threw suspected communists out of helicopters with their stomachs cut open so they would sink and drown in the ocean. The USSR was also as democratic as US. They would have elections on things like the supreme soviet and had way higher voter turnout than the US. The only difference being the USSR had no negative freedom while the US had no positive freedom. Oh yeah and capitalist v communist.
I personally don’t think communism is possible because I think that some people are actually greedy and would take advantage of the system. Marx who pretty much wrote the book on communism said that it’s stateless and that’s the status quo on what communism is. Anarcho-communism is fucking broken and everyone knows its absolute bullshit. Anarcho-capitalism is more likely to work but I mean its still shit. In my opinion you need some kind of state to organize things.
Anyway. You seem to be confused at what giving the means of production back to the people means. It’s a vague term to be fair. Essentially what it means is that the bourgeoisie (owner class) own the means of production in a capitalist society. The people who work or the majority of the population (hence the name “people”,) are called the “proletariat” which comes from some shitty Latin word essentially meaning lower class. In most cases the proletarian class has no say on how their job is ran and the hours and pay they make. In America the minimum wage is $7.25. In the 50s you could go through collage without any debt on the minimum wage in the 50s. But if you were to scale that wage up to now, it would be around $26. 3 times what it is now. On top of that, most jobs can’t pay workers enough for a single bedroom apartment in any county in the US. And the people who are in apartments can’t just get a house when 45% of their income is going to their landlord. Giving the means of production(at the most basic level) means taking the the Tesla factories from Musk and giving them to people who work in those factories where they will democratically control the company.
Socialists are with the masses and want the betterment of humanity put over profits for share holders. We want the workers to have positive freedom and be paid more than the owner because they produce labor; if not the abolition of the owner class. We want every human being to be able to pursue their hobbies without worrying about if they have to pay the water. We want the freedom of the people and unless you make $15,000 an hour, that includes you.
@@Archedgar but you can have a capitalist system with an oppressive government (russia, Saudi Arabia, etc) and have a democratic socialist system (Cuba, Chile, Libya, San Marino) the last three of which are no longer communist. 2 by US invasion and 1 by ballot.
Can we appreciate the level of research and scripting that goes into a Razorfist video?
Five seconds into the video and I can sense the rabid hatred and screaming from the socialist.
RRRRRREEEEEEEEE!
magoichi75 the socialist screams as they steal from you
Somewhere out there the commies are like "There is a disturbance in the force..."
Soycialist.
because he's wrong?
Last time I came this early my gf left me.
I never came first with my ex and she still left me
It can all be boiled down to people who desire collectivism, versus individual sovereignty. Collectivism sounds wonderful on paper, but in practice it ALWAYS creates a concentration of power which is held in place through means of violent oppression.
Yall dont know what socialism is. You're talking about collectivism, a part of totalitarianism or state capitalism. Its a way to achieve socialism but isn't socialism itself.
Sorry but we do know exactly what socialism is.
It is not possible to have socialism without force therefore socialism will always be totalitarian.
Mussolini uses an interesting definition of corporatism. I believe his version means, not private companies but companies wholly subservient to the state. That's the opposite of what it means today.
You Anglos should really distinct between corporatism (the state being one over-encompassing body/corpus) and corporationism (rule of corporations).
Corporatism comes from Corpus meaning body. It was meant in the meaning of extreme nationalism where the nation is an organic body or being where all the people work together in favor of the state.
Is corporatism really even a thing? I’ve seen it described as either, the state cooperating with corporations, or the state organizing itself into different parts to deal with the problems of society (with the corpo coming from corpus meaning body, and the state being a body with different working organs). However the 1st definition can really just happen in any state that has corporations, and the 2nd seems to be a thing that happens in any socialism system.
there is a general truthism. the only difference between Nazism, socialism, corporatism and communism is a spelling error. Whether the corporations take over the state or the state takes over the corporation. All are still a marriage of the state and the means of production where in the general citizen is stripped of all rights and ability to self actualize in any manner not dictated by the state/corporate entity.
No Corporatism always meant what Mussolini said but its often confused with corporatocracy which is rule by a system that is governed or controlled by corporations. This done on purpose by dishonest people.Corporatism is pretty much a fancy way of saying national syndicalism.
*Sees "Nein"*
Kohler: "Nein."
Hitler: "Von aufeinen!" *slams phone*
Josef and The Amazing Technicolor Lampshade 83.
"Fat Alpinan!"
Josef and The Amazing Technicolor Lampshade hey I was just talking about Huey to someone
Josef and The Amazing Technicolor Lampshade btw nice American psicho referance
Mike Moscato Hazel Green
Trump: "Nationalism"
SJW: "REEEE NAHSESSS!!!!"
Bernie: "Socialism"
SJW: *Nothing to see here.*
It's funny because I and the other neo-nazis I know actually planned to vote for Andrew Yang (the socialist candidate) in the 2020 election if he was chosen as the primary. When we found out Biden was the candidate most of us voted Trump because we would prefer to keep our guns.
@@notgray88 Andrew yang isn't a socialist???
@@notgray88 the Neo Nazis I know usually don't like Trump. They think he is a globalist cuck of Israel. I disagree with their assessment but it's still interesting too see.
I actually like the idea of National Capitalism.
National Socialist are not Fascist. Fascism and National Socialism are two different forms of implemented Socialism.
Wow, as someone who grew up behind the iron curtain in the 70s you hit all the major and minor points on price, Labor, and industry controls As dictated by government. Great analysis and commentary.
Soviet Union was dick imo. It never even reached socialism.
2:30 Note, in particular, the use of the term "social justice" in a Mussolini quote. Nice touch.
Indeed
soical justice for chosen people not for some lgbt q migrants etc. what it have to do with socialism itself?
I'm sure fascist Italy and the third reich where all about minority rights and lgbt activism
@Studly Hungwell Translation: "We should let all-powerful moral arbiters decide what is best for everyone, and infringe on the right of adults to do as they please because they are doing things I don't like."
Go fuck yourself you authoritarian baby brain.
@@gaagarin5976 Authoritarian language is nonetheless authoritarian language. And marxists invented it and sucks
Me:reads tittle
YT:*DEMONITIZED*
"I didn't even know he was sick"... We miss you Norm.
"Hitler died fifty years ago."
"Really? I didn't know he was sick."
*Hitler's personal Walther PPK sidearm laughs from the floor where he dropped it
Didnt he die on a beach in Brazil? Conspiracy theory, I know.
Well... Epstein didn't kill himself... just sayin...
*_*OSS burlap mailbag laughs in Argentinian safehouse*_*
Corporal 'Stache: Parkinson's
"Das Ende des Kapitalismus"
Gotta say, Razör. pretty decent german pronounciation. 9/10 considering you do not speak the language as far as I know?
the way he said it was way off tho
It's all the metal albums
@@Keckegenkai The emphasis was on the wrong vowels, but that is completely normal when someone doesn't really speak the language and only knows how certain combinations of letters should sound.
If he had gotten that right to it would have been 10/10
@@Keckegenkai you are being silly. Its great pronounciation for someone not speaking gernan
@@Keckegenkai Hodenkobold, was ist dein Problem?
Hipsters wouldn’t know a real Nazi if one fell out of the sky and landed on them
otto skorzeny would be dismayed.
The funny thing about being a real Nazi is that you can hide in plain sight. NPCs don't know what a totenkopf is, or a maltese cross, or a kolvorot. They only know the swaztika. It is also possible to promote national socialist ideas to right wing NPCs and they will agree with them, completely ignorant of their origin. I'm sure all of you are quite fond, also, of memes which originated on /pol/ which is a national socialist image board.
C.S. Charles and the simple fact is that nazis were diehard.
There wouldn’t be any debating.
Antifa would be killed off rapidly already if there were actual nazis in this country.
C.S. Charles it also amazes me how blatantly stupid antifa is to miss the fact that they’re going down the same path as the nazis did.
@@chokingdoberman2234 political violence isn't Nazism, any movement can act violently.
You forgot to mention something VERY important. A complete ban on all interest rates. All debts frozen at their current amount, and the particular people that lived off of debt slavery were punished not just for stealing from everyone, but for their extreme depravity and peddling of vice. Also the mass employment for public works infastructure projects like highways and dams, paid for by a new currency that paid one unit for each hour worked or unit of goods produced, and could be used to pay taxes. Boom! Huge gains in prosperity because now everyone has a job, can afford to buy the goods they make, and thus spend way more on stuff meaning more demand meaning a need for more supply meaning more goods produced. No more paying down the interest only for it to go back up again!
But, still! Someone that quotes Primary Sources! Rare!
Here have some more, first on what Hitlers Germany was a reaction to, and second, Gottfried Feder's manifesto that landed him the Job you mentioned.
1. _Voluptuous Panic: The Erotic World of Weimar Berlin_
2. _Manifesto for the Abolition of Interest-Slavery_
yeah, and he also conveniently 'forgot' to mention -- while citing Feder's anti-Capitalism stance -- that Feder described the socialist methods employed by the Bolsheviks as .."the botched cures of a Dr. Eisenbarth"
Alright but what's the catch? Every policy has a trade off.
@@MachineMan-mj4gj the catch is that we become neighbours with death.
@@MachineMan-mj4gj the catch is life becomes more regimented and controlled.
@@Oryxification I guess I got caught up in how good it seemed on paper. I now know how impressionable youths can get enamored by marxist ideas.
I'll take uncertain freedom over certain control any day.
No, Mussolini's corporatism was corporatism, but corporatism meant organizations of workers into trade unions, and trade unions into syndicates, syndicates into corporations, thus 'democratically' forming the corporate state, which was a socialist state. Mussolini was socialist, and corporatism is socialism.
🤔 so the best comeback to the statement" you're a Nazi" is 'I'm not a socialist" 😆
yep!
No 1 nah, the best comeback to that statement is the one coined by professor olavo de carvahlo: “you’re mother’s a nazi” (or fascist, substitute as needed).
There is no civilized discussion with such parasites. If that is the best they can put out, respond in kind and tell them to fuck off.
No, it's "Yes."
Yikes. Ideologues comparing their tiny, tiny penises. UA-cam only gave me this notification to remind me how bad I was when I was 12.
93Avenger93 lmfao “your mother is a Nazi! And last night I helped her to do her duty to the party!” 😂🤣😂🤣
Holy shit he called out Indy I can't believe it.
If you haven't yet, TIK has made extensive videos on hitler's socialism, public vs private definitions and fascist and nazi doctrines
I am endlessly amused by the kosher right and left’s tossing of National Socialism back and forth like a hot potato.
Why do you think the socialists in America hate the alt-right so much? The alt-right stole their ideas.
BlackSh1rtandJeans I’m not entirely sure what you mean by that. What is your definition of “alt-right?”
@@CompendiumVril Socialists without white guilt.
BlackSh1rtandJeans That sounds more like National Socialism than anything under the wide “alt-right” umbrella. Most deemed to be “alt-right” are not socialists by definition.
BlackSh1rtandJeans Then again, National Socialism is nearly diametrically opposed to what we know as socialism, that is Marxian or “Democratic Socialism.” Any in the NSDAP caught espousing or defending those ideas were given the boot immediately.
Nazis were socialists... whoa whoa whoa you can't say things like that! :D
I'm not for Socialism. I want to get that out of the way.....
They were "national socialists" something completely different. Socialism always held a more "lib" stance. In fact, the SPD (Social Democratic Party) was banned in the Enabling Act of 1933 in Germany after the Nazis won power. There was a zero tolerance on any self described "socialist" and the ones who still had seats in government were stripped of their positions.
National Socialism is a misnomer. Think Democratic People's Republic of (North) Korea. It's neither democratic nor a republic. Just like the Nazis, they were NOT socialists.
Here is something that explains it better
www.indy100.com/article/nazi-socialist-right-wing-white-supremacists-history-twitter-mikestuchbery-7900001
@@JaymeSplendid fascism is a political offshoot of socialism. It's foundation is socialism.
Both Mussolini and Hitler mentioned over and over that they considered traditional socialism doomed to failure because it lead to the death of cultural heritage in favor of a more globalist identity not based on culture but ideology. This is the part of socialism that they did not like. Thus they revolutionized socialism into a nationalized ideology. Fascism is nationalized socialism. It has all the same economic and statist policies socialist praise but maintaines the cultural identity socialist and communist try to destroy.
The people claiming that it is not so are propagandists trying to recruit natsoc followers or ignorant.
@@JaymeSplendid Finally someone with a brain in the comment section.
@@whiteyonthemoon1193 because socialism has become synonymous with communism to the average person.
So if you are recruiting people to resist leftist types you want to set yourself up as anti-left. Most people will never figure out the lie and the few that do will either not care by that point (they are invested) or will leave.
Lying is a common tactic used by all ideologies.
@Oberst I you obviously got a chip on your shoulder. You should deal with that before you step into adult conversation.
I never said Fascism or NatSoc didn't work on a state or economics level. I honestly think any ideology works if the population is culturally and racially unified. I only stated that fascism is based on socialism. This is a fact. You can read it from Hitler or Mussolini themselves if you are inclined. They go over the similarities and differences often in their speeches and writings and make it very clear why they consider their ideology a progressed form of socialism.
You think poining out that the holocaust is a hoax makes you seem hip? I just said all ideologies lie. That includes capitalist republics like the US and commies like the USSR. Anyone that hasn't been lobotomised knows that the numbers are inflated and most of the Jewish casualties came from starvation due to ally bombing of food production and processing. Leaving most of the country starving by the end.
JFK and Hitler were terrible leaders. This to is also a fact. If Hitler had just let his generals run his campaigns Europe and half the world would be speaking German. But he thought he knew better and inserted his ideology into the battlefield were it didn't belong. Who cares if you can build an economy if you can't win the war? Not to mention he gave the tribe a free ride for the century to follow. JFK was just a mess and was one of the people that brought the world closer to ending than any other time in history.
If you want to say NatSoc and fascism aren't socialism based then that is your choice but it's a lost battle cause the facts aren't on your side.
"Tomorrow, Fascists and Communists, both persecuted by the police, may arrive at an agreement, sinking their differences until the time comes to share the spoils. I realise that though there are no political affinities between us, there are plenty of intellectual affinities. Like them, we believe in the necessity for a centralised and unitary state, imposing an iron discipline on everyone, but with the difference that they reach this conclusion through the idea of class, we through the idea of the nation."
- Benito Mussolini, Declaration of 1921
That quote didn't age well... or for that matter, it's either made-up, or Mussolini was being a little disingenuous when he said it. Fascists gained power and executed dozens of socialists and communists, and up to that point, they spent their time burning down socialists' offices and homes (good).
At the end of the day it was communist and capitalist who sided together to take down the fascist
@@christianponicki9581 Mussolini was a socialist up until the day he died. Fascism is just socialism in action.
@@Viper2132 Read his biography for 30 seconds and you'll see that's not true. He co-authored "Doctrine of Fascism", where he specifically picked apart both liberalism and socialism rather convincingly and then described his own system, Fascism.
@@christianponicki9581 I've read the writings of Mussolini and Gentile, as well as Blanqui. 'The Doctrine of Socialism' refuted Marx, not socialism. Mussolini was a self proclaimed socialist until he died. Look up Fosani's 'Testament of Benito Mussolini', the last interview he gave a week before his death.
Even before I got into politics as a teenager I never understood why Hitler was called a right wing dictator and the Nazis weren’t socialist when socialist was in the name of the damn party! And if the party is socialist, then they sure as shit weren’t right wing!
That was my thinking as a 15 year old who was a history buff on WW2 and this is what caused me to pay attention to politics way more.
Your understanding of politics never progressed passed that 15 year old version of you. Same thing as this razorfist dude.
“I am a socialist” wrote hitler in zweite buch.
Full quote before the Marxist cry babies get here:
"I am a German nationalist. This means that I proclaim my nationality. My whole thought and action belongs to it. I am a socialist. I see no class and no social estate before me, but that community of the Folk, made up of people who are linked by blood, united by a language, and subject to a same general fate. I love this Folk and hate only its majority of the moment, because I view the latter to be just as little representative of the greatness of my Folk as it is of its happiness."
I'm glad you've been pumping out these videos with more frequency
UA-cam hid this guy from me for 4&1/2 years.😐
Socialist: Wealth amongst the people
*buys black hoodie and beanie from Walmart with capitalism*
stupid argument. razorfist has criticised youtube for demonetisation and deplatforming etc., yet he still uses youtube. does this make him a hypocrite, a fraud, an impostor? no. youtube is the largest videostreaming platform on the internet it would be stupid not to use it due to the amount of views you get on it in versus the alternatives. until youtube eventually breaks the camel's back with their terms of service bullshit and everyone worth a damn switches to bitchute but that's a whole nother story. procuring goods and services in an economic system which you reject or at least is critical of whilst living within said economic system is practically impossible. stupid argument, starting using your brain and don't parrot political talking points. you're no better than the leftists you oppose if you do.
@@orangmawas3858 It would make him a hypocrite IF there were viable options. Until Bitchute has the same following as youtube, I reframe from calling him a hypocrite.
D00MKOLA Until Bitchute has the similarity of adoption rate and numbers I would refrain from using that dubious claim. Unless your a troll then we can outright ignore you and move on.
Dont forget Apple phone made in horrid working conditions.
@@Outlaw8908 Well said, and I practically said the same thing. You know great minds think alike xD
Corporatism is a form of Socialism, people tend forget that. So even if it was true that Fascism and National Socialism were Corporatist, they would still be Socialist.
More accurately, Corporatism is an element OF socialism. Corporations can only exist in a highly-centralized economy, as only that market structure permits monopolies to exist. The state can decide which corporations rise and fall, and the corporations, in turn, donate to politicians who will be obliged to pass anti-competitive legislation for their exclusive benefit. None of this would work in a free-market, as it would be a pure meritocracy. Therefore the corporate "tribute to the state" would not be necessary.
@@snozzlehead92 Corporatism has nothing to do with corporations. You're thinking of corporatocracy which is what capitalism naturally evolves into, that or cartelism.
Me to my philosphy professor: is money private property?
Professor: no then taxation would be theft.
Me*smiles* : oh okay
You’re dead on about the Seattle city council. Watch “Seattle is dying” it shows you what the city has become.
Lived in Seattle for 25yrs. While it was always rather stupidly PC, for the last 5-10yrs I can't tell who is crazier: the hordes of tweakers and lunatics picking at invisible spiders and muttering to themselves, or City Hall and their tax-fattened vassals. Disgusting and sad. Was a nice city once upon a time.
How is Seattle following a socialistic economic model? You people don't even know what socialism is lmao
EMF,
No one is saying in this list of comments, that Seattle currently has a socialist economic model. We’re saying constant city policies led by the city council has degenerated a once great city.
However, in relation to your comment the city council constantly proposes socialist ideas.
- constant new taxation to pay for welfare services (soda tax, failed head tax, etc.)
Check
- spending more on “homeless“ services than most other cities in the world (1 billion per year)
Check
- member of the city council is an actual member of the socialist party
Check
If the council had their way the city would be socialist.
@@SampsoniteR What do you consider socialism to be? I believe our definitions are pretty different
Seattle is so much the Third Reich, it's amazing
...Dinesh D'souza told me so
These days they call state intervention in business a "bailout".
@Weebo DX, no, that's "crony capitalism", " picking winners and losers", "too big to fail", etc. If a business fails, it fails. Look at the GM bailout, and the crap cars they are making now, same thing with Chrysler. No, it just doesn't work.
@Weebo DX, agreed, then there's Wall Street not caring when the "retail investor" loses money ("That's part of the 'business'"), but closes down trading when THEY lose money!
but, but real bailoutism has never been tried!!!!
I keep getting recommended Vaush's critique of this video by youtube. It's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. My body spasmed in reflexive cringe so tightly that I'm now zoologically classified as an armadillo. At one point Vaush points out that Razorfist "seems a little too familiar with this fascist literature, that's how you know..." He's literally accusing Razor of 𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘺, for reading an assignment for school instead of being intentionally ignorant on the subject of the fucking video.
That's the go-to tactic for leftoids who can't attack the argument - so instead accuse them of being fascists.
Damn lol 🤣
"True communism was never implemented. Let's try it now!"
Bubbaa Gumpz, 2877, attempt 355
"Nazis Were Socialists"
98% of my university just triggered
Damn, well 98% of your University need to face the truth about socialism, the origin of communism and how their minds have swallowed the absolute lie that outright control is the way to a perfect world.
Good girl gamers
To be fair, he did said in the description that it'll piss everyone off. It triggers the extremes of both sides so it fits.
So that was what national SOCIALISM meant
because it's bunch of nonsense
Facebook banned me for saying that.
Fuck Facebook
Facebook is more like Facepalm to me.
That last line from Norm is particularly haunting now...
socialims is when gubbermint does stuff, more gubbermint do, more socialister it is
Yes.
bapanada Lmao
QED.
This may be Razor's best video ever. I tried to teach some folks about this in a Fox News chatroom one time, and some moderator banned me for trying to teach revisionist history... ugh.
"Fox News chatroom" -eeeeewwww
...because it i revisionist history?
@@Gvjrapiro Ah Aiden, I'm guessing they memed you so hard from TIK's videos that you came here... Even after the sources are shown in the video, even after the words are read verbatim, even after the evidence is laid out before you, spoon-fed and had your sleazy mouth wiped off with silk you still say it's revisionist history.
Do people around you even take you seriously?
P.S. I saw you calling Stalin a capitalist in an earlier comment, Jesus dude if you cope any harder they'll put you on a T-72...
"@Theant19 Yes, you were too brainwashed to actually read it. The book literally said that the founding ideas of communism were great, but that figures like stalin became capitalists out of greed"
@@Gvjrapiro Derp.
@@DatJNP amazing argument
Just remember: Everything that is either communism or socalism is usually a terrible idea
I can't remember where I heard or read it but socialism is a car with square wheels and communism is a car with no wheels, but they still expect you to get where you're going
Those system's are as bad as Crony Capitalism where banks can privatize profit and make losses public. A company like GM is given a tax payer bailout while Saturn is allowed to fold......ad infunitum.
@Dry Bones I think the Market needs to be regulated, i'm not an ancap, and race only matters to racists, no matter left or right
ThronRitter You misspelled always. It’s probably just spellcheck, but I wanted to let you know.
@@shawnmccuen6908 keyword crony. Capitalism is great. The people running the fair are just making it hard for the groundsman to make new rides and attractions. We got some horrible top dogs. Crony was a good word to use there my friend
Are you trying to imply that a man who shared the exact same views as Karl Marx and belonged to the *_Socialist Worker's Party of Germany_* may have been Left-wing 🥺🥺🥺🥺
Nice outro. Nobody on earth can ever replace Norm Macdonald's humor. Once in a lifetime guy.
I just want you to know that I've had that same shirt for a while now and here in Miami, I can't tell you how many Cubans, Venezuelans and Nicaraguans come up to me and say that they love the shirt and wish more people wore it, especially now. There's a lot of patriotic capitalist Hispanics, but the media never shows them so they seem almost mythical. Anyways, love the vid and Godspeed.
Yea brother! I'm in miami too, if I'd see u wearing that I'd have the same reaction.
this is the most boomer post I have ever read
@@EnoshII *Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip*
@@EnoshII If being a boomer is defined by hating communism/socialist, then I guess im a boomer.
Im hispanic, and most of my family is rather conservative. I used to be hyper liberal when i was younger. I dont really identify with either party, but at the moment am voting right because the left has become insane.
a lot of hispanics (especially cubans) in miami that can vote, tend to vote republican. At least the boomers, and even some older millennials.
It's okay. If we can just erase history rather than remembering it then we'll be condemned to re-live it! Yeah! ... oh, wait...
I often argue communism ,Nazi ,and fascism are just brand names of socialism. I would also argue socialism is modern way of marketing serfdom.
Not too modern. They always cover the barbed wire and handcuffs with bouquets of flowers, only to stop tending to the flowers when it's no longer necessary.
Have you ever watched the multi part documentary, "Europa the Last Battle"? If so, what do you think? If not, please do. It seems to paint Hitler completely different than our normal history would tell us.
Great documentary.
Socialism and Communism: Comes with unlimited "It's wasn't real, try again" cards.
Or how about "Communism was never really tried, it always just gets tied with a totalitarian system"
there is no communist country and never was because communism it's rule of communes. have you seen country rules by communes? maybe switzerland... socialism was on the way in ussr and to 1971 it's simply overgrow american economy. usa owned half world ussr rebuild half world. is that so bad?
@@c.s.charles2102 Behold, a hater of Jews.
So what else are you blaming them for today? I stubbed my toe this morning, is that the Jews' fault?
tHaT's NoT cApItAlIsM, tHaT's CrOnYiSm
State capitalism is not communism nor is it socialism
And certainly socialism has been tried though due to western imperialism mostly from the us took it down look at chile for example
"The ordinary bourgeoisie were very shocked to see that we had also chosen the symbolic red of Bolshevism and they regarded this as something ambiguously significant. The suspicion was whispered in German Nationalist circles that we also were merely another variety of Marxism, perhaps even Marxists suitably disguised, or better still; Socialists. The actual difference between Socialism and Marxism still remains a mystery to these people up to this day. The charge of Marxism was conclusively proved when it was discovered that at our meetings we deliberately substituted the words; 'Fellow countrymen and women' for 'Ladies and Gentlemen' and addressed each other as 'Party Comrade'. We used to roar with laughter at these silly faint-hearted bourgeoisie and their efforts to puzzle out our origin, our intentions, and our aims."
~ AdoIf HitIer, _'Mein Kampf',_ Chapter VII
heh, interesting & entertaining, thanks for the share
@@Cherb123456 ... oh, you should read it in its entire/proper context (if you haven't already done so)
after that, you'll see just how ridiculous people are whenever they say things like; _'Antifa are the modern-day Brownshirts, maaaan!'_
I'd say to read the entire chapter, but you can just do the one or two pages that come before and after the quote I cited
(it's on page 374 of the Murphy translation [I'd gladly post the direct link for you, but I worry that my comments will just end up in the 'spam filter' if I do)
@@StreicherwerkII Thank you, I'm from a country where it's still forbidden to even have this work in my hands. But it's been my list to read of course, I will!
@@Cherb123456 ... welcome
are you allowed to read it from a website ?
(if so, I will try to post the link that I usually use)
@@StreicherwerkII It is readily available on the Internet ;)
As a Romanian born and raised under Ceausescu's regime, I approve Razorfist's message and fucking subscribed.
tHaT wAsNt rEaL sOcIaLiSm! 🤤
-Every Socialist Ever.
Think of it as national versus international socialism. That's the only difference between fascism and communism.
Funny, just a few hours before watching this I was informing a millennial that nazis were left wing.
Were they successfully informed?
@@CynicalBastard Just say "is not real socialism", because real socialism k ills much more and ruins countries in a worse way.
@@CynicalBastard Well, that makes Charles Fourier's theories interesting, then.
@@CynicalBastard Yes, particularly his theories about putting the Jews out in the fields to have them work off the wealth they'd appropriated. Socialism's history of putting anticapitalism hand-in-hand with antisemitism predates the Nazis by a long shot.
@@heroesytumbas that would be a new true scotts man fallacy
"Corporatism" -- the fascist economic model -- comes from looking at the nation like a singular, organic "body" (from "corpo" in Italian, like "corpse") w/ the state as the head. It's a form of socialist syndicalism (ironically, most antifa members identify as syndicalists).
Corporatism is the state arbitrating "economic and social justice", to maximize worker and state welfare, that includes the threat of nationalization as Razorfist eloquently describes.
E.g. Hitler wanted to arbitrate disputes between (and impose regulation on) trade unions representing each economic interest group (workers, employers, agriculture, banking, industry, etc.) -- i.e. appendages of the national "body" -- in an "Economic Parliament", run by and for the state.
Corporatism doesn't mean "state run by corporations" or "a mix of state and corporations". It's socialistic, syndicalist trade-unionism.
Well said. Hitler and Mussolini both wanted to end class struggle. Class struggle, which is a marxistic concept and completely flawed.
Are you really about to suppose class struggle doesn’t exist? I’m not a marxist and don’t believe class relations are the driving force of history, however, to not include class struggle in an analysis of society is simply grug brained.
@@darkstaar246 Of course class struggle is real but believing in endless class struggle is moronic.
@@hailbane9633 And even more moronic is the socialist notion that the upper classes need to be brought down to the level of the lower classes in order for harmony to be attained. It just doesn't work. Incentive is inherently necessary for creation, innovation and growth which is why we routinely see nothing but stagnation in socialist and communist societies.
A particularly enlightening video. Especially interesting how something as benign as price control for bread immediately starts to unravel the utopia