I think the best part of the James Cameron is the depiction of the sinking itself. It shows the sinking much closer up, really showing the scale of this huge ship sinking and the *sounds* especially. It gets the horrific part of that just right, and of course shows the break up (even if it isn't entirely accurate)
Yes that us true but that is because he had a lot of money and better technology than in 1958, and even they didnt have all the fact of what happened, they didnt believe the survivor that ship break in too parts, until they discover and got videos of the ship in the bottom of the ocean, so the sinking was done without that fact,
James camera titanic is a fictional love story around true events..if you want to see the story without any fictionalisation a night to remember imho it’s a better film.
Especially because they were really people aswell but im not entirely sure whether or not it was confirmed what they actually spent their last moments doing
maybe, but I saw someone say " find yourself a rose; if someone don't love me like Rose, I don't want it" and I have to agree, but I also love Kate Winslett
“A Night To Remember” exists in my heart forever. When I was kid, I ordered Ballard’s Discovering Titanic children’s book at school. I carried it everywhere. I was obsessed. One day, my father came home with “A Night To Remember” on VHS and a paperback of Lord’s “The Night Lives On”. I watched that movie repeatedly. I love it. Thanks, Dad!
@ zuitsuit80: Imo, "A Night To Remember" shown how the ship/stern going down most accurately going by things i read/interviews i went over before Cameron's film came out. I really don't believe the stern went straight up for a few seconds and slowly went down. I remember a interview of a survivor/mother's perspective. The ship broke in two, some knew it did, some didn't, reason why was the lights went out and it was dark that night so it's easy to believe why there was two conflicting stories on that debate for years till it was confirmed in 1985. Anyways, the stern leaned back after breaking into the ocean, and mother let her son watch because she knew her husband was on the stern, and she told her son how his father was gonna make it because it looked as if the stern would ride itself and float. But after couple seconds she let her son watch, the stern then began tol tilt forward and finally sank out of site beneath the waves. That had to be the hardest thing there the article mentioned, to have a few seconds of hope there will be a chance, then fate changes it before your child's eyes.
I think the best thing about the Cameron film is that it lets you fall in love with the ship itself. You become acquainted with passenger spaces and form an emotional connection with them, or at least a narrative connection. ANTR is great if you care about the sinking of the Titanic, but if you don’t already, it’s not going to make you care.
Yes I agree with you, especially during the ending scene that goes from the titanic wreck visual and goes back to what it was in its glorious days! The cinematic elements and how the camera was moving and the transitions alongside the incredible score it’s so emotional, heartbreaking seeing all the souls of the people who died !!😭💔rest in peace 🙏🏻
Based on what you're saying, "A night to remember" is the best film to watch for those who want to know what happened to the Titanic, and the "Titanic" of James Cameron is the best film to show to people who are not yet interested in the topic of Titanic, to get them interested in that.
You answered the same way I would. I introduced my daughter to the James Cameron film, but instead of sending her to A Night to Remember, I gave her a book I purchased with details. She not only saw pictures of Titanic (and Olympic and Britannic), but the rooms, the other ships involved and the people overlooked and not mentioned. I saw both, but I find myself mor drawn to the James Cameron film not for Jack and Rose, but the actual look and feel of Titanic.
Same.I don't love the 1997 Titanic movie because of Jack and Rose,but rather because of how hard Cameron worked on it,how realistic and mostly accurate it was.The music,the shots of the ship splitting are well done as well. While I don't think it was a bad idea to add Jack and Rose(sadly many people wouldn't care about the movie then),I feel like sometimes they were focused on too much.Like maybe if the nudity parts weren't added,there would have been space for some historical deleted scenes like the one involving Mrs.Strauss refusing to leave.And they wouldn't have to be deleted scenes,Cameron could have added some parts involving the Carptahia and her dangerous journey to Titanic. Also,some people just act like as if Jack and Rose matter more than the real people,I have an example for that.
@@KG-ds2fj I’d say jack and rose were a huge draw for the movie amongst a new younger crowd and the nude scenes were a big reason people wanted to watch. This gave them an opportunity to tell the other stories and show how amazing the ship looked while everyone’s attention was on the movie.
@@cheng2006 I know but honestly,over time I've came to see the ship as the main character and the historical people too while seeing Jack and Rose as just additional characters who are just there to keep the audience entertained,lead us through the main character and make us forget the ship is going to sink in the initial parts of the movie.While I think it was a good idea to add them,I think the nudity scenes aren't important because there are other scenes which showed the ship's interiors,neither is the part where Murdoch shoots passengers.Instead that could have given place for some important deleted scenes like the one about Ida Strauss or could have given Cameron an opportunity to give us a glimpse at what the Carpathia done that night to arrive to Titanic.
@ tim: Good for you. Im forever grateful my 4th showed me a book of Titanic. A children's book because she knew i still liked books with pictures to help me understand it all. I wished i could remember it. At first i thought it was just a good ship story page to page. Next day, she shown me picture of Jason robot that Robert Ballard used in 1985 and asked if knew what it was. I had no clue due to darkness, thinking it was some sort of NASA picture but told & showed me more pictures of how the Titanic was real and they were photos of the wreck. Before james cameron said the words, i actually talked to my teacher how was all great book that really happend. I didnt say novel due to me being young and the differance between the two but as Cameron said also, you couldn't written it better as fiction.
Fun fact too: the version of Nearer My God to Thee was accurate in "A Night to Remember". The tune name is Horbury. It is what the majority of English passengers would have known. Now, for the James Cameron version, he had the tune written by Lowell Mason since it would have been more recognized by American audiences. Both tunes are lovely, but more partial to Horbury. Big music history nerd 😊
From what i understand there's a third melody which was/is popular with British Methodists, but which kind of sounds similar to the American version as well, which would account for both British and Americans recognizing the song and naming it.
I watched "A Night to remember" for the first time few days ago. And it was not what I expected. I expected a cheesy, b/w drama movie and was amazed when it turned out to be anything but. There was no cheesy romance that distracted you from the main events. Instead it showed literally everything that lead to the disaster, and in so much detail. I honestly didn't expect this from a movie from the 50's. It's definitely my favorite Titanic movie now. Also: Molly Brown? She was so much more amazing and sympathetic in the old movie, imo. And the guy who got drunk and survived thanks to this circumstance, lol. He was only briefly shown in Cameron's version. I highly recommend this movie to anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
The whole movie, a night to remember, was recommended on my UA-cam last week. My attention span is shocking, but sat through it all and actually enjoyed it! Can't believe it took 29 years to watch it
A night to remember was the 1st one I watched as a kid. I've seen almost every titanic movie and this one is the best. For me, it was the feel of the movie, but also, it followed multiple stories. I'm currently reading "on a sea of glass" and picking out all the details they got right n wrong in both movies. I would love to see an accurate movie based on that book!
One of the interesting trivia points about A Night to Remember’s “special effects” were the ominous creaking noises the ship made as it foundered were actually made by the set as it was tilted into position. They just threw it in since it sounded so realistic. Talk about practical special effects!
Jack and Rose are kind of like a living Mcguffin. Similar to how the Ring in Lord of the Rings, gives an excuse for the character's journey so readers and later viewers can see all aspects of the world. Rose and Jack exist so viewers can see and breath Titanic. If they focused on a historic character we wouldn't get every aspect of the ship. The film is experiencing Titanic. Similar to how the book and later TV series Shogun with John Blackthorne, a character that only existed so viewers can experience the world of the Samurai. The Last Samurai kind of does the same thing as Shogun but less historically accurately sadly and fails as a result. Another good example famous example is actually Dances with Wolves, or Last of the Mohicans where the main characters only really exist so you can see 'that world' while everything around the characters was done with quite a bit of respect to the periods they were set in. Unlike say The Last Samurai which is a childish romantic telling of Samurai. James Cameron does this and cranks it to 11. But it's also a more recent event than any I've mentioned so is better recorded.
Yes, I was going to make this exact point - i.e. Rose and Jack and the diamond as a big fat maguffin- because the ship is the star of the show. After all the movie is called Titanic and not Jack and Rose, which should be a pretty big giveaway. While I actually enjoy the love story, I scarcely noticed it the first time I saw the movie in the theater (and people seriously need to watch it in a theater!!).
I would definitely agree that A Night to Remember is the most historically accurate movie about Titanic, and the book is too. (I can't lie that it is great for historians out there.) The Titanic movie, meanwhile, that is somewhat historically accurate, but Cameron just wanted to focus more on the love scenes. And so, there you have it.
Well James wanted to do a series about the titanic and Fox said no, so he came up with the idea of Romeo and Juliet but on Titanic and it got approved. So his hands were kind of tied.
Right, and that's what I really disliked about that movie. To me it's a fake pocket book romance story pasted on top of one of the biggest tragedies that happened in real life. That never felt right to me. The fictional part is much too dominant in that movie and takes away from the interesting real story that happened. Cameron, having a big budget to work with, did do a good job in showing what the ship looked like, which is the strong part of the movie. But storywise there's too much focus on the fictional love nonsense, which is out of place in such a seriously tragic event. I recently saw A night to remember, and liked the focus on portraying what actually happened, much more, despite the visuals not being as pretty as the Cameron movie. Overall it's a much better movie made with much more limited means.
Only Titanic movie i havn't seen was the silent film one in 1920 i think that was german, used as nazi propaganda or something. I just know it was a silent film. Others that came after ive seen them all. I liked 1996's Titanic with George C. Scott. i forget why people don't like that movie, i think because it explained it all too modern like back then, they've should've known the mistakes all along but didnt. I think it payed more respect to Mr. Murdock. Because people see him as cold-blooded and i didnt. Then there was the story of the Allison Family, which sadden me that i read about. The parents and older daughter parished while the younger son was taken by the nanny. The Nanny wasn't a murderer i believe but did take the baby to the lifeboats while parents stayed with their daughter to look around because the mother didnt leave daughter alone in cabin while husband was gone at the time finding out what was happening. The movie shown the bow going down underwater for the first time ive seen in any film. Had a great known cast, and i liked it.
You're absolutely awesome by explaining stuff about boats and Titanic! I would never watch "A Night to Remember" if it wasn't you, and this video. Thanks!
By 1958 standards A Night To Remember was a great film about the Titanic. It starred British actor Kenneth More & he gave a convincing performance as well as a 25 year old David McCallum. It has now been colourized & worth a look by all means but honestly Cameron's version was just mind-blowing & a masterpiece as the sets alone were unsurpassed & some of the actors looked like the real life people they were portraying. I think all movies about the Titanic are interesting & give their own accounts of the tragedy & let's face it, will the great Titanic ever be forgotten, probably not coz of researchers & James Cameron's version didn't win 11 Oscars for nothing as it surpassed Gone With The Wind which only won 8. You have to give Cameron credit as he worked his butt off to make this movie & yes he has admitted the high shot of the break was too high as he has agreed, he'd like to reshoot it but of course can't. Agree with you on most things. Overall we must show respects to those who perished who were traveling to America to start a new life, it is very sad that most didn't make it.
I just watched A night to Remember and it was so amazing. I actually started crying when the people in the lifeboats were watching the Titanic sinking below the surface and people screaming. I found that scene hard to watch.
@@pikemeredith5604 that’s what I watched. I’ve never seen it before and it popped up as a recommendation as I’ve been watching so much about the Titan tragedy.
There was one , with the alternative ending where they had a party on board the exploration ship and then discovered that Rose had the diamond all along ...
I read the Walter Lord book when I was in the 5th or 6th grade, which was 1967-68. I saw a Night to Remember when it aired on a local TV channel in the 1960's. I definitely liked it better than the J. Cameron version. Older movies can be classics, and that movie IS a classic. I just watched it on UA-cam the other day. P.S, AND THE fact it shows the baker a lot more is a reason to watch it. I LOVED that character! Good job on your reviews, thank you.
What I found so fascinating about James Cameron's film are two facts that people might not know about. The late David Warner, who played Lovejoy, also started in S.O.S Titanic as Lawerence Beesley. And the late Bernard Fox, who played Colonel Archibald Gracie, also played Fredrick Fleet in A Night to Remember. That's two real-life Titanic figures. And on a side note, David McCallum, who played Harold Bride in A Night to Remember, also narrated the A&E Titanic documentary mini-series.
I loved David Warner s performance as Lawrence Beesley in SOS Titanic it is my 2nd favorite Titanic movie after a Night To Remember. James Cameron's Titanic is my 3rd. I was born in the 1950's and read Walter Lords book A Night to Remember when I was a teenager and have been fascinated by Titanic since then. David McCallum was so young in the 1958 movie and I always liked him.
When I saw ‘A Night To Remember’, I was pleasantly surprised with how it focused on the different characters and explained what happened with the ship. You could actually feel how these people felt. Not to mention that scene with the old man comforting the little boy who lost his mother. Just so many things happening and offering you a better view of things
Believe it or not, the first thing that got me into the Titanic was not even about the Titanic. I remember when I was 5 I saw a 30 second clip of the Britannic’s final plunge from the 2000 movie. I had heard about the Titanic before and thought that was it just because it was a ship sinking. Then I saw clips of the Titanic sinking from the movie, got interested, and grew an obsession that has only grown since then.
I love how visually detailed Cameron's Titanic was and that it introduced a new generation to the famous ship and hopefully to Walter Lords book A Night to Remember and the 1958 film. 1958 was the year I was born 😊. I highly recommend the book. I was very disappointed with the love story in Cameron's film but you cant argue with commercial success. Finally I love the focus on the Marconi operators and their story in A Night to Remember.
I've always loved the 1997 Titanic, but I just watched a night to remember for the very first time this week, and I have to say, it's so much better than the 97 version... I would definitely recommend watching the black and white version... the movie just feels so real because of the time period it was filmed... and I have a sound bar for my TV and the scene where you could hear the Titanic literally breaking in half was so damn spooky!!
What got me interested in the Titanic was Robert Ballard's 1986 exploration of the wreck. I got the VHS and his book for Christmas 1987, when I was 8. I was fascinated by this and I still have the book after all these years. It is interesting to see the grainy and black and white pictures of the wreck from that time.
We felt that A Night to Remember was a better overall historical version while Cameron's Titanic was visually stunning and almost like a time travel experience... Right up to the close-up of that Roosevelt dime that Rose gave Jack for her portrait 🧐 That moment felt a bit like Somewhere in Time when Richard finds the modern coins in his trousers and is instantly transported back from the past. 😁
"I cannot imagine any condition which would cause a ship to founder. I cannot conceive of any vital disaster happening to this vessel. Modern shipbuilding has gone beyond that." - Edward Smith
I think that in order for Cameron to make his movie about the Titanic the studio interfered and wanted a romance movie. I feel he had to combine what the studio wanted and his passion for the Titanic. The studio just wanted a romance movie and not care about the history meanwhile Cameron cared about the history. That’s probably why the romance feels forced and cheesy.
He already admitted in interviews he used the film as an excuse to pay for his expeditions to the Titanic, he also made a documentary not just the film. Also he never made any money from the film Titanic he gave it all back to the studios.
I first read "A Night to Remember" back in the early 60's. I became fascinated by the story and read the book mulitple times before and after I saw the movie. Apparently, Lord interviewed multiple survivors many of those shown in both movie versions. The survivors that saw the "A Night to Remember" in movie theaters were very much impressed by the accuracy. Remember in 1958 there were hundreds of survivors still around. I'm surprised that you didn't mention some of the actors in ANTR that became famous later - Davis McCallum for one.
Yeah, and the fact that werent correct were because they hadnt found the Titanci in the bottom of the Atlantic ocean in 1954, so the ship didnt break because they didnt know for sure this, but what happened to the real character were true, I love that they add the Carpathia and the Californian, the conversation between the radio operators of the three ships, the baker story,
A night to remember is clearly the gold standard of all the movies. Not just because of the historical accuracy. The British have away of making the characters human you can relate to they play it straight. There are many scenes in this movie that bring a tear to one's eye like the old man comforting the little boy knowing they were going to die. James Cameron borrowed heavily from night to remember which is a testament to the film. Also the film being in black and white adds a vail of sorrow.
The sets and precise detail of the public rooms ,the pattern of the tiles,the English oak carved panelling ,the half-dome fixtures,the Jacobean style white enamelled walls a ceiling ,wicker furniture in the reception room ,the etched glass panels everything is precisely accurate ..so to see the titanic on screen in color was stunning for me
My interest started with reading the book by Sir Walter Lord. Then, I watched the movie. My interest was peaked. I have watched several versions made over the years. My personal favourite movie is the Night to Remember.
I just discovered the Titanic mini series 2012. I absolutely loved it. It was awesome to see the interaction between the first & second class passengers.
Some points on the James “bravest pioneer” Cameron movie: I think the cheese is part of Cameron’s charm and also it kind of fits into the “forever in love” theme that Titanic movies have. Like the old and younger couples who didn’t want to leave each other in night to remember. Both exposition scenes of how the ship was going to sink in Titanic 97 and Night to Remember are fantastic. They both give you an overall feeling of dread knowing that as time goes on more and more water is flooding in. It really works for the entirety of Night to Remember and works wonders for the third act of 97. Also, Cameron’s inspiration for Titanic (he mentioned it was one of the movies that inspired him overall, I can’t exacty remember if he said that it was a direct inspiration for Titanic but I think it definitely shows) Dr Zhivago which he said he watched when he was like 17 or 19. Both movies are a ficticious romance story in the middle of some of the biggest events of recent history. I think knowing that helps understanding at what he was aiming for.
I like A Night to remember more, I like that we saw different perspective , not just from the Titanic but also the stories of the Californian and the Carpathia, we saw a little of every thing, the technology and the feel of the Titanic of Cameron were great, but had more technology to do better the sinking, the old one is more about the characters and what they went through, And the love story for me was a little too much, I want to see others things that they dint show,
I believe I became interested in Titanic's history after catching the movie "Raising the Titanic" on tv when I was very little, and I became very interested when in 1988 (I think) I catch on tv the filming of the real ship after being discovered by Ballard. I was 7 years old. I was sooo excited when I found out Cameron was releasing a movie about it, I tried to find out everything about the filming before it was even released, because I wanted to see a movie about Titanic with good xfs and better budget than up to that time was available. I went to the movies to watch it twice, back in 1997, when I was 16. I only watch it for the ship, the love story is average. But the ship looks gorgeous. So now I'm waiting for the 4k remaster version that should be released before the end of the year.
We have to remember this is a different time where ppl didn't date for 10yrs before getting married. He was also way below her class wise so to him she probably the most fantastic and interesting woman he's ever met. But yes, it's a movie romance so things are intensified.
Hey gang. Andrew from Australia here. I'm a 62 year old gay guy and I live in Melbourne. I don't look it or feel 62 though. More like 45. Because I saw A Night To Remember first, I've been an avid fan of that movie. Kenneth More is one of my favourite actors. In the shot where people were screaming trying to get on a lifeboat, he fired his gun 4 times to restore a fraction of control. On James Camerans version of Lightoller, this was possibly the worst depiction of Lightoller period. He said "KEEP BACK OR I'LL SHOOT YOU ALL LIKE DOGS! KEEP ORDER HERE I SAY". When I was watching it for the first time in 1997, I was stunned. This was so totally innacurate and Kenneth More played it so much better and you can see the heartbreak in Mores eyes when he passed the son from his father before placing him in a life boat with his wife played by Honor Blackman and his two daughters before they disappeared from sight. Thomas Andrews was a perfect fit on A Night To Remember. Michael Goodliffe played the part perfectly. The one line that sticks in my mind is when he says to Captain Smith after he says "well what's the answer"? He says "She's going to sink Captain! That moment brought the seriousness of it home to Smith. Can you imagine the horror of knowing that there was lifeboat space for 1200 people and there were at least 2,220 people on board and the sea temperature was -2c? In Australia, it was Winter when we saw it for the first time. After the Iceberg hit, the cinema started lowering the temperature very gradually and I said to my friends "Is it me or is it bloody cold in here? We then realised why they were doing it. As I type this, it's 5c outside.....freezing to us here in OZ so it was a very good way to feel what it must have been like to be an unlucky person stuck on Titanic after the lifeboats were all gone. Lawrence Naismith played Captain Smith perfectly. After the preview of the movie, one of Captain Smiths daughters actually came up to Lawrence Naismith after the movie had finished in tears and she said "You look exactly like my father. May I have a hug? He obliged her very quickly. The preview was very cathartic for relatives of people who lost family on Titanic. Technically, A Night To Remember is brilliant for the time and while James Camerons movie is brilliant, it's very edgy. Because of the money involved, there were a few glaring mistakes with CGI alone. Also...and this to me was a glaring mistake, Cameron omitted to do what was done brilliantly on A Night Remember. On the Carpathia when Cottom says "You're heating my blood. I think I'll turn in". As he undoes a button, after a short while his face changes from normal to horified as he listens to the Titanic calling for help. Captain Arthur Rostron played the part perfectly from being annoyed at being woken up to disbelief as he says "Mr Dean, turn the ship round. Head North West I'll work the course out in a moment". Camerons version was devoid of any of this urgency and it was a great disappointement. It then cuts back to the Carpathia and Rostron says in desperation "Cut your heating and hot water, cut anything you like but i've got to have every ounce of steam you can give me.This was actually a very dangerous thing to do and to avoid his engines blowing up, his chief kept his eyes on everything to make sure the excess stress didn't damage the engines. Another glaring mistake in Camerons version was Molly Brown played by Kathy Bates. In the lifeboat she was almost devoid of any authority. Tucker Maguire in A Night To Remember was everything Kathy Bates wasn't. When Tucker says "You get fresh with me son and I'll throw you overboard"!. Don't forget everyone, After James Cameron saw A Night To Remember, that inspired him to make his version of Titanic! Why he omitted so much important dialogue amazes me. I've got the Blu-ray version of both movies. The other mistake in A Night To Remember was the fourth smoke stack collapsing, not the first but the model that was sinking only had the ability to do so much but Office Boxhaul who was an adviser on A Night To Remember understood the limitations. Victor Garber who played Thomas Andrews on Camerons film was almost manic. We will never know what happened that night but I would bet good money that it was like Andrews on A Night To Remember. I think one of the hardest things to say was Lightoller in A Night To Remember when he says "Take charge of your selves
I first came across 'A Night to Remember' aged 12. My Dad showed it to me the night before I ever went on a ferry to France for the first time, on a school trip. 🤪
Last week I visited the Titanic Experience in Belfast, and did the full experience, including the guided tour of the slipways and the drawing office etc. Our tour guide said she preferred "A Night to Remember", and I completely agree. I saw "A Night to Remember" long before James Cameron's film. I saw "Titanic" on a flight across the Atlantic (when films on planes still used a large screen), and afterwards I thought "I wonder why he bothered?" because it seemed to me so inferior to the earlier film. (I often think that about remakes, unnecessary sequels or films on a similar subject.)
the 1953 titanic movie, is actually genuinely my favourite out of all of them. sure, it might not be the most accurate, but something about it (specifically the final plunge) just makes me love it
As a kid,I saw A Night to Remember 2 to 4 years before Titanic released and loved it. From a Production values standpoint seeing Titanic in 1997 completely blew my mind. The 1997 film does a superior job capturing the imagination illustrating the ship's majestic qualities. It's also worth pointing out that the James Cameron movie really captures the sheer terror, chaos, and pandemonium surrounding the final plunge and the plight of the people stuck in the freezing Atlantic Ocean.
You gotta remember Rose is a 17 year old girl, and yeah, teenage girls being swept away by what Jack was saying is pretty accurate. If she were 3 years older it might be different.
@@dazanii Hard for me to believe in 1912 in a time like it was, that 1st Class woman would be interested or be close to a 3rd Class man regardless of age. They'd be lucky to meet during the day but at night im sure the gates between classe get locked.
In Camerons film there is a scene on deck of children playing that was photographed by Father Brown who got off the ship at Queenstown.The only photos taken on board that survived
Strangely the thing that got me interested in titanic was a little book, literally 2nd grade level reading, it was like a learn to read book but it was called "finding the titanic" and partially told the story of the night of the sinking and its maiden voyage and also Bob Ballard going down and finding it the first time.
absolutely agree with your verdict on watching Cameroons Titatnic first to spark interest and then go on to Night to remember. thats how i did it too and developed so much interest and knowledge on this. absolutely die hard fan on Titanic and its history in every aspect
They are both great movies for the period they were made in and for the most part still hold up! I still favor the 1997 film despite the romance there's just some brilliant details sprinkled in here and there. There was actually an interaction between captain Smith and Ismay discussing Titanics speed in the first class dining room and a passanger overheard them. In the background you can actually see a woman looking over at them. Cameron incorporated it into the film!
I very much agree with everything said here. Titanic (97) was my introduction to the tragedy and got me interested in the whole thing while A Night To Remember gave me better details. I'd definitely recommend both of them too.
I think you're misunderstanding how people who aren't Titanic enthusiasts think. You assume people watching the start of A Night to Remember and seeing the stock footage are all thinking "Oh that's the Titanic because it's got 4 funnels." The funnels have really got nothing to do with it. It's not so much that people are actively thinking "Oh that's stock footage of the Titanic." It's more that we're watching a movie, and within the context of the movie, that's the Titanic, and nobody's really thinking about it beyond that. Because when you watch a movie you're supposed to get immersed in it and not think about behind-the-scenes trivia. When talking about how general movie-goers see this scene, you're approaching from a Titanic-enthusiast perspective rather than a general movie-goer perspective. What I mean is, you (for example) as an enthusiast would watch that scene and immediately think "Hey that doesn't look like Titanic." This DOESN'T mean non-enthusiasts actively think "Hey that MUST BE TITANIC." It's more that we know we're watching a manufactured Hollywood movie and aren't really thinking either way about whether it is or isn't because we just want to watch the story.
I get it. 😄 Hey this review was great! I agree with your analysis, having now watched both in 2023.. that is the oldie for the first time and a rewatch of the 1997.
A Night to remember isn't perfect and was made with a much smaller budget and without access to more modern special effects like CGI. As such they had to resort to things like using stock footage for a few short scenes. But it hardly takes away from the story in my opinion. For its time it's a really well made movie in my opinion. The Cameron 1997 Titanic movie on the other hand was focused mostly on a fictional love story and on non-existing characters. The real people that were on the ship are with few exceptions only briefly mentioned and shown, almost as an afterthought. It also totally omits the whole issue with the SS Californian not coming to help them. For me this is all a major distraction from an otherwise interesting story of the sinking of the Titanic. The strong point of the big budget Cameron production is the pretty visuals. It does do a nice job in showing what the ship looked like on particularly the inside. But storywise it's mostly nonsense and lacks much of the details that a Night to remember does show. It's really more like a fictional pocket book romance story pasted on top of a real life tragedy. A bit of a disgrace, in my opinion! I overall prefer A Night to remember and think this is the better Titanic movie.
I think the best added value of both films is that it gives the beginner a basic structure of the sequence of that night’s events. Then, when you start learning the details you add them to this already existing framework in your memory. If we studied the detailed and not as much so stories of Lightoller or the Astors separate from these films it would be just a nightmare of a puzzle of connecting all the dots
4th Officer Boxhall, along with a few surviving passengers, served as advisors on "A Night to Remember". Plus Walter Lord interviewed many survivors in preparing his book. I first saw the movie on late night TV in the early 1970's, and have been a bug about Titanic lore ever since.
Keep in mind…’Titanic’ was about a love story that took place on the ship. ‘A Night to Remember’ was about the sinking of the ship. 2 totally different story lines. If you want more details about the sinking etc then you should watch a documentary, not a storyline movie. ‘A Night to Remember’ was made with the knowledge known and what they thought had happened about the sinking at the time. Cameron had proven scientific knowledge of what happened, had been down to the wreck, and was able to make his movie based on real factual events. Both movies are good. Personally I prefer ‘A Night to Remember’ as its just a raw 1950’s black and white movie. You watch the movie and feel like you’re actually there. The scene of the bow submersing and water coming up over it and on to the well deck still gives me the chills. Cameron’s movie, not so much. Its just another movie (albeit an extremely good one!)…a car with a nice ride, power steering and cruise control. ‘A Night to Remember’ is the no window, 4 speed hot rod with manual steering. That’s the one I want.
In 1912, the world was black & white. There were no colors in these days. Conspiracy theory ? Ok, no. But one detail I notice in the 1997 version is that the love birds consume there relation in the famous Renaud car. That car was "boxed" meaning it was packaged for transport. So when you see it, that is another "mistake" that was shown.
About the Year 69 or so i watched the Film A Night to remember here in Germany on TV. I was only 9 Years old and I remember that i was a little scared of all that Stuff that happend and my Mom told me not to look further and forced me to leave the Room. But i watched from behind the Door secretly. From this Night on i am into the Titanic-thing and Oceanliners in General. And of Course i loved the James Cameron Film a lot. Next Year my Hubby and I will take a Journey to Ireland/Belfast and visit the Titanic and Nomadic Museum. I dont know why i am telling you this but your Story remind me a little bit of mine - Only a few Decades earlier. Love your Videos Sam (Sry for my Engl)
In a few years Titanic will be 30 years old, and a remake will most likely happen. To freshen up the story for a new generation. I would hope they would remake "A Night To Remember" but with "on a sea of glass" level of historical accuracy. From the stories to exactly how the ship sank.
I would like a remake of Night to remember but with better special effects on the sinking, and what really happened to the ship, they didnt know that the ship break before sinking until they found the remains of the Ship in the ocean
A new version would have to include the submersible that was destroyed aiming to visit the Titanic wreck. That would be a plausible excuse for another remake.
Titanic doesn't need a remake or sequel it already is perfect also a sequel would be unrealistic since the Titanic is gone and Rose is dead and married Jack in the afterlife
@@Simbala-bq5vy Rose and Jack were just plot devices. The real character was the ship itself. And the discovery of the ship made a sequel necessary and appropriate. That was, after all, a significant part of the remake. And now there is a reason for a new remake. NEW VICTIMS of the Titanic disaster ---- those killed in the submersible. Imagine ---111 years after the Titanic sank, and new dead victims. That's a STORY!
I had to smile when you were introduced to Titanic! You saw James Cameron's TITANIC! now I'm a few decades older than you, but I too was introduced to Titanic by both a book and a movie! In my case I read about Titanic first and then the movie, A NIGHT TO REMEMBER! However I did watch TITANIC too , and loved it too!
To answer your question, I wouldn’t run for the hills if I met a guy like Jack who told me those things after 3 days. If it was 1912 and I was going to marry Hockley, I’d take Jack for sure!
You have to remember that some of the things in each movie, are in there for effect. They are there to make it more exciting. Therefore, I don’t think that should discount how that isn’t factually correct. Cameron clearly loves the Titanic and has been there over 30 times and did an immense amount of research into the ship. I’ve not seen the Night to Remember, but it looks good too.
I just got off the Queen Mary 2. This ship is unlike any other of the new vessels. It is nostalgic for a time gone by. The Library is fantastic. I felt on this ship like I was back in time. This vessel has a regal feeling to it. When I was in the Queen's ballroom for high tea, I felt like I had returned to 1995. Being on this ship for the whole week ignited a deep interest in the Titanic. I knew about the Titanic; I went to see the 1997 film (when I barely knew English). In my 28 years cruising the seas, I have never encountered the kind of fog we saw for days on the QM2. The fog was so intense that one night the captain blew the horn about every 30 sec. We couldn't stop in Newport, RI, due to the fog. All these variables created an environment for me of what being on the Titanic would have been like. I don't know why? But I got off that cruise ship wanting to learn more about Titanic.
I was into Titanic in the 1970s and the reason being was my parents had this fantastic coffee table book on ships and ship stories, with the best story being that of titanic. As I recall it featured a colored painting of a lifeboat with a sailer holding up a lamp (I think?) and then in the backdrop was the massive Titanic sinking, it's stern way high into the air like about 60 or 70 degrees, it's propeller way up there, and all this seemed to be placed on a stormy sea with foamy surf every where. And so I read the story and have been amazed ever since. Everyone always thought Titanic sunk in one piece, including our vintage 1978 World Book Encylopedias never discussing even the possibility of it breaking apart (as I recall). I remember the discovery of Titanic's wreck in 1985 (?) and them saying they've discovered the main part of Titanic. Then all of a sudden a new history began to be written in foresight: all the broadcasts about it would say things like "the long debate of how Titanic sunk, weather in one or two pieces is finally over. We now know that Titanic sunk in one piece, and they are searching for the other." It seems like it took them a long time, maybe a year (?) to discover the other part of the wreck. But, one thing is for certain, there was zero debate that Titanic had sunk in one piece. It was recorded in all the history books and all the popular shows and encyclopedias that it had. It anyone says there was a debate, they are wrong. As far as the general public is concerned, there was ZERO debate that it had sank in one piece. Me, a true fan of Titanic lore during the 70s, had NEVER heard otherwise. The fact was: Titanic sank (in one piece). period. whatever debates they had must of been behind closed doors, well censored and secrete to the public. The lesson learned here is that censorship and keeping secretes, even when the government is not involved, is still in common use today. Beware folks, all to frequently the Truths are being held from us, even if they think they are censoring lies, they might not be. The experts can be proven wrong, and in the case of Titanic, they certainly were!
What I love about the James Cameron Titanic movie, is the fact that you see the actuall wreck. The footage James Cameron filmed from exploring the wreck and try to rebuild not only the ship but the wreck aswell.
i remember as a kid i was terrified of the 97 titanic movie, as i had only seen the second half of it, but as a kid I had the Ballard book and I used to sit and stare at the pictures in it for hours, it was my favorite thing
When I was 17, I was have been absolutely smitten with someone like Jack saying all of those things to me after 3 days. When my now husband told me at 3 days that he really liked me when I was 25, I almost ran for the hills. Other than it being Hollywood, the fact that she was only 17 would have made a huge difference.
I was 15 when I saw Titanic in theater in 1997 and of course, being the hormonal teenager that I was, I was completely taken and blown away with this tragic love story, and that is ALSO what got me interested in the story of Titanic as well! I thought Jack and Rose's story was so romantic and all that sappy girly stuff and of course, i cried for the whole second half of the movie... Today though as a 41 years old single woman who never found love or got married or had kids, it would just annoy the HELL out of me and bore me to death. I juste recently saw A Night to Remember, and to be honest, its WAY BETTER movie that the Cameron movie historically speaking. So all in all I love Camoron's Titanic but I appreciate a better and more historically accurate re count of the events like in A Night to Remember. ANd no fictional love story, please, I'm WAY past this stage...
The way I've always looked at it is: A Night to Remember delivers the facts on a more balanced way and doesn't stereotype it's characters. It does however lack energy, feels flat in places and is dated in look and limited in scale and special effects. A classic, but I feel modern audiences won't enjoy it as much as I do. Titanic is my favourite film of all time. It's beautiful on ever level. The emotional impact that movie had on me was profound and what got me a Titanic enthusiast in the first place. However as time has gone on I do see cracks in the way the film was presented. I happen to think Plinkett's review hit the nail on the head when discussing the one dimensional depiction of the classes and some of the villainous characters. Cak for example lacks depth in any way. There are two scenes where you feel there might be a human being in there somewhere, but before it's explored it is ripped away and he's back being an irredeemable moustache twirler. Even when he's angry there's no depth behind it. Also Jack can be unlikeable sometimes. Conclusion: ANtR delivers the facts. Titanic delivers the emotion.
I don't know why it's so surprising that a movie from the 50's could be historically accurate. All the details came from interviews with survivors. Those interviews Walter Lord did are why we know all these details about individual experiences. It's not like history requires a lot of modern technology. The academic discipline and standards for objectivity and reliable sources has been established for a very long time.
I view the Jack/Rose 'love' story, as Rose's last wild and free rampage filled with defiance against her mother before she was going to be forced to marry Cal. She was acting out, nothing else.
Hands down "A Night to Remember." Nothing is going to be completely 100 percent accurate. The movie comes close enough to allow the viewer to get some sense of the tragedy, characters, and the story is on point. Mind you the Titanic wasn't discovered until the 1980s. Most people believed the ship went down intact. Yes, eye witnesses did account for the ship breaking apart, but in my view..."A Night to Remember" is the best.
Thank you. This motivated me to finally watch "A Night to Remember", and what a great film. I felt like I was there just as much as in Cameron's film, except I could see so much more of what was happening. Honestly the only thing it was missing was James Horner's music and it would've been the n#1.
Night to Remember executes the accounts of real people's experience mainly after the ship strikes an ice berg, Cameron's Titanic executes the sinking outside everyone's account and grasps the environment of Titanic before, during, and after the ship strikes the ice berg.
I think the best part of the James Cameron is the depiction of the sinking itself. It shows the sinking much closer up, really showing the scale of this huge ship sinking and the *sounds* especially. It gets the horrific part of that just right, and of course shows the break up (even if it isn't entirely accurate)
Yes that us true but that is because he had a lot of money and better technology than in 1958, and even they didnt have all the fact of what happened, they didnt believe the survivor that ship break in too parts, until they discover and got videos of the ship in the bottom of the ocean, so the sinking was done without that fact,
James camera titanic is a fictional love story around true events..if you want to see the story without any fictionalisation a night to remember imho it’s a better film.
I thought the scene with the old couple embracing themselves in their final moments was far more emotionally sad than jack and roses.
Especially because they were really people aswell but im not entirely sure whether or not it was confirmed what they actually spent their last moments doing
Except that the strausses were out on deck
@@idkmycatiscuteit has been confirmed they were on the boat deck and Mr Strauss body was recovered.
maybe, but I saw someone say " find yourself a rose; if someone don't love me like Rose, I don't want it" and I have to agree, but I also love Kate Winslett
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“A Night To Remember” exists in my heart forever. When I was kid, I ordered Ballard’s Discovering Titanic children’s book at school. I carried it everywhere. I was obsessed. One day, my father came home with “A Night To Remember” on VHS and a paperback of Lord’s “The Night Lives On”. I watched that movie repeatedly.
I love it. Thanks, Dad!
@ zuitsuit80: Imo, "A Night To Remember" shown how the ship/stern going down most accurately going by things i read/interviews i went over before Cameron's film came out. I really don't believe the stern went straight up for a few seconds and slowly went down. I remember a interview of a survivor/mother's perspective. The ship broke in two, some knew it did, some didn't, reason why was the lights went out and it was dark that night so it's easy to believe why there was two conflicting stories on that debate for years till it was confirmed in 1985. Anyways, the stern leaned back after breaking into the ocean, and mother let her son watch because she knew her husband was on the stern, and she told her son how his father was gonna make it because it looked as if the stern would ride itself and float. But after couple seconds she let her son watch, the stern then began tol tilt forward and finally sank out of site beneath the waves. That had to be the hardest thing there the article mentioned, to have a few seconds of hope there will be a chance, then fate changes it before your child's eyes.
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I think the best thing about the Cameron film is that it lets you fall in love with the ship itself. You become acquainted with passenger spaces and form an emotional connection with them, or at least a narrative connection. ANTR is great if you care about the sinking of the Titanic, but if you don’t already, it’s not going to make you care.
Agreed and well said 🙏🏼
No night remember
What a farfetched reason…
Yes I agree with you, especially during the ending scene that goes from the titanic wreck visual and goes back to what it was in its glorious days! The cinematic elements and how the camera was moving and the transitions alongside the incredible score it’s so emotional, heartbreaking seeing all the souls of the people who died !!😭💔rest in peace 🙏🏻
Based on what you're saying, "A night to remember" is the best film to watch for those who want to know what happened to the Titanic, and the "Titanic" of James Cameron is the best film to show to people who are not yet interested in the topic of Titanic, to get them interested in that.
You answered the same way I would. I introduced my daughter to the James Cameron film, but instead of sending her to A Night to Remember, I gave her a book I purchased with details. She not only saw pictures of Titanic (and Olympic and Britannic), but the rooms, the other ships involved and the people overlooked and not mentioned. I saw both, but I find myself mor drawn to the James Cameron film not for Jack and Rose, but the actual look and feel of Titanic.
Same.I don't love the 1997 Titanic movie because of Jack and Rose,but rather because of how hard Cameron worked on it,how realistic and mostly accurate it was.The music,the shots of the ship splitting are well done as well.
While I don't think it was a bad idea to add Jack and Rose(sadly many people wouldn't care about the movie then),I feel like sometimes they were focused on too much.Like maybe if the nudity parts weren't added,there would have been space for some historical deleted scenes like the one involving Mrs.Strauss refusing to leave.And they wouldn't have to be deleted scenes,Cameron could have added some parts involving the Carptahia and her dangerous journey to Titanic.
Also,some people just act like as if Jack and Rose matter more than the real people,I have an example for that.
@@KG-ds2fj I’d say jack and rose were a huge draw for the movie amongst a new younger crowd and the nude scenes were a big reason people wanted to watch. This gave them an opportunity to tell the other stories and show how amazing the ship looked while everyone’s attention was on the movie.
@@cheng2006 I know but honestly,over time I've came to see the ship as the main character and the historical people too while seeing Jack and Rose as just additional characters who are just there to keep the audience entertained,lead us through the main character and make us forget the ship is going to sink in the initial parts of the movie.While I think it was a good idea to add them,I think the nudity scenes aren't important because there are other scenes which showed the ship's interiors,neither is the part where Murdoch shoots passengers.Instead that could have given place for some important deleted scenes like the one about Ida Strauss or could have given Cameron an opportunity to give us a glimpse at what the Carpathia done that night to arrive to Titanic.
@@cheng2006 And like I said some people act like as if Jack and Rose are more important than the real people,the ship or even the Carpathia.
@ tim: Good for you. Im forever grateful my 4th showed me a book of Titanic. A children's book because she knew i still liked books with pictures to help me understand it all. I wished i could remember it. At first i thought it was just a good ship story page to page. Next day, she shown me picture of Jason robot that Robert Ballard used in 1985 and asked if knew what it was. I had no clue due to darkness, thinking it was some sort of NASA picture but told & showed me more pictures of how the Titanic was real and they were photos of the wreck. Before james cameron said the words, i actually talked to my teacher how was all great book that really happend. I didnt say novel due to me being young and the differance between the two but as Cameron said also, you couldn't written it better as fiction.
Fun fact too: the version of Nearer My God to Thee was accurate in "A Night to Remember". The tune name is Horbury. It is what the majority of English passengers would have known. Now, for the James Cameron version, he had the tune written by Lowell Mason since it would have been more recognized by American audiences. Both tunes are lovely, but more partial to Horbury. Big music history nerd 😊
From what i understand there's a third melody which was/is popular with British Methodists, but which kind of sounds similar to the American version as well, which would account for both British and Americans recognizing the song and naming it.
@@MCDrengIt’s ‘Propior Deo’
You’re welcome, good sir.
Agreed. "Horbury" is the better version.
I watched "A Night to remember" for the first time few days ago. And it was not what I expected. I expected a cheesy, b/w drama movie and was amazed when it turned out to be anything but. There was no cheesy romance that distracted you from the main events. Instead it showed literally everything that lead to the disaster, and in so much detail. I honestly didn't expect this from a movie from the 50's. It's definitely my favorite Titanic movie now. Also: Molly Brown? She was so much more amazing and sympathetic in the old movie, imo. And the guy who got drunk and survived thanks to this circumstance, lol. He was only briefly shown in Cameron's version. I highly recommend this movie to anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
A night to Remember is now available in colour on UA-cam
@@katebemb8900 I know. I prefer the old b/w version tho. Feels more authentic, imo.
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Hell, Molly Brown was ready to kill that man in the old movie!
The whole movie, a night to remember, was recommended on my UA-cam last week.
My attention span is shocking, but sat through it all and actually enjoyed it!
Can't believe it took 29 years to watch it
It actually only takes 2 hours to watch it. Not 29 years
Timestamps:
0:00: intro
1:36: James Cameron titanic 1997
14:08: a night to remember 1958
35:42: overall review of which one is better
38:05: outro
A night to remember was the 1st one I watched as a kid. I've seen almost every titanic movie and this one is the best. For me, it was the feel of the movie, but also, it followed multiple stories.
I'm currently reading "on a sea of glass" and picking out all the details they got right n wrong in both movies. I would love to see an accurate movie based on that book!
One of the interesting trivia points about A Night to Remember’s “special effects” were the ominous creaking noises the ship made as it foundered were actually made by the set as it was tilted into position. They just threw it in since it sounded so realistic. Talk about practical special effects!
That is decent trivia
I never watched the James Cameron version until last year after I went to the Titanic Museum in Pigeon Forge. Now I can’t watch it enough.
Jack and Rose are kind of like a living Mcguffin. Similar to how the Ring in Lord of the Rings, gives an excuse for the character's journey so readers and later viewers can see all aspects of the world. Rose and Jack exist so viewers can see and breath Titanic. If they focused on a historic character we wouldn't get every aspect of the ship. The film is experiencing Titanic. Similar to how the book and later TV series Shogun with John Blackthorne, a character that only existed so viewers can experience the world of the Samurai. The Last Samurai kind of does the same thing as Shogun but less historically accurately sadly and fails as a result. Another good example famous example is actually Dances with Wolves, or Last of the Mohicans where the main characters only really exist so you can see 'that world' while everything around the characters was done with quite a bit of respect to the periods they were set in. Unlike say The Last Samurai which is a childish romantic telling of Samurai.
James Cameron does this and cranks it to 11. But it's also a more recent event than any I've mentioned so is better recorded.
Yes, I was going to make this exact point - i.e. Rose and Jack and the diamond as a big fat maguffin- because the ship is the star of the show. After all the movie is called Titanic and not Jack and Rose, which should be a pretty big giveaway. While I actually enjoy the love story, I scarcely noticed it the first time I saw the movie in the theater (and people seriously need to watch it in a theater!!).
I would definitely agree that A Night to Remember is the most historically accurate movie about Titanic, and the book is too. (I can't lie that it is great for historians out there.)
The Titanic movie, meanwhile, that is somewhat historically accurate, but Cameron just wanted to focus more on the love scenes.
And so, there you have it.
I hated the contrived Jack and Rose story. It nearly ruined the film for me.
True, I about titanic but I love older movies then new movies
Well James wanted to do a series about the titanic and Fox said no, so he came up with the idea of Romeo and Juliet but on Titanic and it got approved. So his hands were kind of tied.
Right, and that's what I really disliked about that movie. To me it's a fake pocket book romance story pasted on top of one of the biggest tragedies that happened in real life. That never felt right to me. The fictional part is much too dominant in that movie and takes away from the interesting real story that happened. Cameron, having a big budget to work with, did do a good job in showing what the ship looked like, which is the strong part of the movie. But storywise there's too much focus on the fictional love nonsense, which is out of place in such a seriously tragic event.
I recently saw A night to remember, and liked the focus on portraying what actually happened, much more, despite the visuals not being as pretty as the Cameron movie. Overall it's a much better movie made with much more limited means.
Only Titanic movie i havn't seen was the silent film one in 1920 i think that was german, used as nazi propaganda or something. I just know it was a silent film. Others that came after ive seen them all. I liked 1996's Titanic with George C. Scott. i forget why people don't like that movie, i think because it explained it all too modern like back then, they've should've known the mistakes all along but didnt. I think it payed more respect to Mr. Murdock. Because people see him as cold-blooded and i didnt. Then there was the story of the Allison Family, which sadden me that i read about. The parents and older daughter parished while the younger son was taken by the nanny. The Nanny wasn't a murderer i believe but did take the baby to the lifeboats while parents stayed with their daughter to look around because the mother didnt leave daughter alone in cabin while husband was gone at the time finding out what was happening. The movie shown the bow going down underwater for the first time ive seen in any film. Had a great known cast, and i liked it.
You're absolutely awesome by explaining stuff about boats and Titanic! I would never watch "A Night to Remember" if it wasn't you, and this video. Thanks!
By 1958 standards A Night To Remember was a great film about the Titanic. It starred British actor Kenneth More & he gave a convincing performance as well as a 25 year old David McCallum. It has now been colourized & worth a look by all means but honestly Cameron's version was just mind-blowing & a masterpiece as the sets alone were unsurpassed & some of the actors looked like the real life people they were portraying. I think all movies about the Titanic are interesting & give their own accounts of the tragedy & let's face it, will the great Titanic ever be forgotten, probably not coz of researchers & James Cameron's version didn't win 11 Oscars for nothing as it surpassed Gone With The Wind which only won 8. You have to give Cameron credit as he worked his butt off to make this movie & yes he has admitted the high shot of the break was too high as he has agreed, he'd like to reshoot it but of course can't. Agree with you on most things. Overall we must show respects to those who perished who were traveling to America to start a new life, it is very sad that most didn't make it.
I just watched A night to Remember and it was so amazing. I actually started crying when the people in the lifeboats were watching the Titanic sinking below the surface and people screaming. I found that scene hard to watch.
@@jandedick7519 Yeah. Also the scene with the elderly man & little boy who is lost. It was very sad. The colourized version is on UA-cam now.
@@pikemeredith5604 that’s what I watched. I’ve never seen it before and it popped up as a recommendation as I’ve been watching so much about the Titan tragedy.
Not to mention the Titanic models are as big as a luxury yacht. I wouldn't mind watching a director's cut of the Titanic movie.
There was one , with the alternative ending where they had a party on board the exploration ship and then discovered that Rose had the diamond all along ...
Fun Fact: The lookout actor in “A Night To Remember” also played Col. Archibald Gracie in “Titanic (1997)”.
What an interesting fact ,I didn’t know this ,thanks for sharing :D
He also played Dr. Bombay in The T.V. show Bewitched.
Also Col. Crittenton in Hogans Heroes
Wow.
I read the Walter Lord book when I was in the 5th or 6th grade, which was 1967-68. I saw a Night to Remember when it aired on a local TV channel in the 1960's. I definitely liked it better than the J. Cameron version. Older movies can be classics, and that movie IS a classic. I just watched it on UA-cam the other day. P.S, AND THE fact it shows the baker a lot more is a reason to watch it. I LOVED that character! Good job on your reviews, thank you.
What I found so fascinating about James Cameron's film are two facts that people might not know about. The late David Warner, who played Lovejoy, also started in S.O.S Titanic as Lawerence Beesley. And the late Bernard Fox, who played Colonel Archibald Gracie, also played Fredrick Fleet in A Night to Remember. That's two real-life Titanic figures.
And on a side note, David McCallum, who played Harold Bride in A Night to Remember, also narrated the A&E Titanic documentary mini-series.
I loved David Warner s performance as Lawrence Beesley in SOS Titanic it is my 2nd favorite Titanic movie after a Night To Remember. James Cameron's Titanic is my 3rd. I was born in the 1950's and read Walter Lords book A Night to Remember when I was a teenager and have been fascinated by Titanic since then. David McCallum was so young in the 1958 movie and I always liked him.
David Warner was also great in A Christmas Carol as bob cratchit
I just watched ANTR for the first time in forever and it reminded me how this was the film that got me into Titanic when I was 12 back in 1992.
When I saw ‘A Night To Remember’, I was pleasantly surprised with how it focused on the different characters and explained what happened with the ship. You could actually feel how these people felt. Not to mention that scene with the old man comforting the little boy who lost his mother. Just so many things happening and offering you a better view of things
Those scenes with the steward and the child (especially the last one) tear my heart out every time.
Believe it or not, the first thing that got me into the Titanic was not even about the Titanic. I remember when I was 5 I saw a 30 second clip of the Britannic’s final plunge from the 2000 movie. I had heard about the Titanic before and thought that was it just because it was a ship sinking. Then I saw clips of the Titanic sinking from the movie, got interested, and grew an obsession that has only grown since then.
A Night To Remember made me cry so much.
I'll have to watch the others you mentioned for my final decision.
Walter Lord, who wrote the book “A Night to Remember” that the book is based on, served as a consultant on the James Cameron movie.
A night to Remember
I love how visually detailed Cameron's Titanic was and that it introduced a new generation to the famous ship and hopefully to Walter Lords book A Night to Remember and the 1958 film. 1958 was the year I was born 😊. I highly recommend the book. I was very disappointed with the love story in Cameron's film but you cant argue with commercial success. Finally I love the focus on the Marconi operators and their story in A Night to Remember.
I've always loved the 1997 Titanic, but I just watched a night to remember for the very first time this week, and I have to say, it's so much better than the 97 version... I would definitely recommend watching the black and white version... the movie just feels so real because of the time period it was filmed... and I have a sound bar for my TV and the scene where you could hear the Titanic literally breaking in half was so damn spooky!!
What got me interested in the Titanic was Robert Ballard's 1986 exploration of the wreck.
I got the VHS and his book for Christmas 1987, when I was 8. I was fascinated by this and I still have the book after all these years. It is interesting to see the grainy and black and white pictures of the wreck from that time.
The 1997 film is what introduced me to Titanic too and I consider myself a history buff now. :)
We felt that A Night to Remember was a better overall historical version while Cameron's Titanic was visually stunning and almost like a time travel experience... Right up to the close-up of that Roosevelt dime that Rose gave Jack for her portrait 🧐 That moment felt a bit like Somewhere in Time when Richard finds the modern coins in his trousers and is instantly transported back from the past. 😁
"I cannot imagine any condition which would cause a ship to founder. I cannot conceive of any vital disaster happening to this vessel. Modern shipbuilding has gone beyond that." - Edward Smith
@@leilaj8895 'Avoid my iceberg in the ship I can't sink: GOD
I think that in order for Cameron to make his movie about the Titanic the studio interfered and wanted a romance movie. I feel he had to combine what the studio wanted and his passion for the Titanic. The studio just wanted a romance movie and not care about the history meanwhile Cameron cared about the history. That’s probably why the romance feels forced and cheesy.
He already admitted in interviews he used the film as an excuse to pay for his expeditions to the Titanic, he also made a documentary not just the film. Also he never made any money from the film Titanic he gave it all back to the studios.
I first read "A Night to Remember" back in the early 60's. I became fascinated by the story and read the book mulitple times before and after I saw the movie. Apparently, Lord interviewed multiple survivors many of those shown in both movie versions. The survivors that saw the "A Night to Remember" in movie theaters were very much impressed by the accuracy. Remember in 1958 there were hundreds of survivors still around. I'm surprised that you didn't mention some of the actors in ANTR that became famous later - Davis McCallum for one.
Thank goodness David McCallum survived the sinking, or we might never have gotten Ducky! 🤣🦆
Yeah, and the fact that werent correct were because they hadnt found the Titanci in the bottom of the Atlantic ocean in 1954, so the ship didnt break because they didnt know for sure this, but what happened to the real character were true, I love that they add the Carpathia and the Californian, the conversation between the radio operators of the three ships, the baker story,
A night to remember is clearly the gold standard of all the movies. Not just because of the historical accuracy. The British have away of making the characters human you can relate to they play it straight. There are many scenes in this movie that bring a tear to one's eye like the old man comforting the little boy knowing they were going to die. James Cameron borrowed heavily from night to remember which is a testament to the film. Also the film being in black and white adds a vail of sorrow.
The sets and precise detail of the public rooms ,the pattern of the tiles,the English oak carved panelling ,the half-dome fixtures,the Jacobean style white enamelled walls a ceiling ,wicker furniture in the reception room ,the etched glass panels everything is precisely accurate ..so to see the titanic on screen in color was stunning for me
I just watched a night to remember this week. On you tube. Thats a damn good movie. And i feel very accurate
For me james Cameron movie is what got me to fall in love with this ship.
My interest started with reading the book by Sir Walter Lord. Then, I watched the movie. My interest was peaked. I have watched several versions made over the years. My personal favourite movie is the Night to Remember.
I just discovered the Titanic mini series 2012. I absolutely loved it. It was awesome to see the interaction between the first & second class passengers.
Some points on the James “bravest pioneer” Cameron movie:
I think the cheese is part of Cameron’s charm and also it kind of fits into the “forever in love” theme that Titanic movies have. Like the old and younger couples who didn’t want to leave each other in night to remember.
Both exposition scenes of how the ship was going to sink in Titanic 97 and Night to Remember are fantastic. They both give you an overall feeling of dread knowing that as time goes on more and more water is flooding in. It really works for the entirety of Night to Remember and works wonders for the third act of 97.
Also, Cameron’s inspiration for Titanic (he mentioned it was one of the movies that inspired him overall, I can’t exacty remember if he said that it was a direct inspiration for Titanic but I think it definitely shows) Dr Zhivago which he said he watched when he was like 17 or 19. Both movies are a ficticious romance story in the middle of some of the biggest events of recent history. I think knowing that helps understanding at what he was aiming for.
I like A Night to remember more, I like that we saw different perspective , not just from the Titanic but also the stories of the Californian and the Carpathia, we saw a little of every thing, the technology and the feel of the Titanic of Cameron were great, but had more technology to do better the sinking, the old one is more about the characters and what they went through, And the love story for me was a little too much, I want to see others things that they dint show,
I believe I became interested in Titanic's history after catching the movie "Raising the Titanic" on tv when I was very little, and I became very interested when in 1988 (I think) I catch on tv the filming of the real ship after being discovered by Ballard. I was 7 years old.
I was sooo excited when I found out Cameron was releasing a movie about it, I tried to find out everything about the filming before it was even released, because I wanted to see a movie about Titanic with good xfs and better budget than up to that time was available.
I went to the movies to watch it twice, back in 1997, when I was 16.
I only watch it for the ship, the love story is average. But the ship looks gorgeous. So now I'm waiting for the 4k remaster version that should be released before the end of the year.
We have to remember this is a different time where ppl didn't date for 10yrs before getting married. He was also way below her class wise so to him she probably the most fantastic and interesting woman he's ever met. But yes, it's a movie romance so things are intensified.
Hey gang. Andrew from Australia here. I'm a 62 year old gay guy and I live in Melbourne. I don't look it or feel 62 though. More like 45. Because I saw A Night To Remember first, I've been an avid fan of that movie. Kenneth More is one of my favourite actors. In the shot where people were screaming trying to get on a lifeboat, he fired his gun 4 times to restore a fraction of control. On James Camerans version of Lightoller, this was possibly the worst depiction of Lightoller period. He said "KEEP BACK OR I'LL SHOOT YOU ALL LIKE DOGS! KEEP ORDER HERE I SAY". When I was watching it for the first time in 1997, I was stunned. This was so totally innacurate and Kenneth More played it so much better and you can see the heartbreak in Mores eyes when he passed the son from his father before placing him in a life boat with his wife played by Honor Blackman and his two daughters before they disappeared from sight. Thomas Andrews was a perfect fit on A Night To Remember. Michael Goodliffe played the part perfectly. The one line that sticks in my mind is when he says to Captain Smith after he says "well what's the answer"? He says "She's going to sink Captain! That moment brought the seriousness of it home to Smith. Can you imagine the horror of knowing that there was lifeboat space for 1200 people and there were at least 2,220 people on board and the sea temperature was -2c? In Australia, it was Winter when we saw it for the first time. After the Iceberg hit, the cinema started lowering the temperature very gradually and I said to my friends "Is it me or is it bloody cold in here? We then realised why they were doing it. As I type this, it's 5c outside.....freezing to us here in OZ so it was a very good way to feel what it must have been like to be an unlucky person stuck on Titanic after the lifeboats were all gone. Lawrence Naismith played Captain Smith perfectly. After the preview of the movie, one of Captain Smiths daughters actually came up to Lawrence Naismith after the movie had finished in tears and she said "You look exactly like my father. May I have a hug? He obliged her very quickly. The preview was very cathartic for relatives of people who lost family on Titanic. Technically, A Night To Remember is brilliant for the time and while James Camerons movie is brilliant, it's very edgy. Because of the money involved, there were a few glaring mistakes with CGI alone. Also...and this to me was a glaring mistake, Cameron omitted to do what was done brilliantly on A Night Remember. On the Carpathia when Cottom says "You're heating my blood. I think I'll turn in". As he undoes a button, after a short while his face changes from normal to horified as he listens to the Titanic calling for help. Captain Arthur Rostron played the part perfectly from being annoyed at being woken up to disbelief as he says "Mr Dean, turn the ship round. Head North West I'll work the course out in a moment". Camerons version was devoid of any of this urgency and it was a great disappointement. It then cuts back to the Carpathia and Rostron says in desperation "Cut your heating and hot water, cut anything you like but i've got to have every ounce of steam you can give me.This was actually a very dangerous thing to do and to avoid his engines blowing up, his chief kept his eyes on everything to make sure the excess stress didn't damage the engines. Another glaring mistake in Camerons version was Molly Brown played by Kathy Bates. In the lifeboat she was almost devoid of any authority. Tucker Maguire in A Night To Remember was everything Kathy Bates wasn't. When Tucker says "You get fresh with me son and I'll throw you overboard"!. Don't forget everyone, After James Cameron saw A Night To Remember, that inspired him to make his version of Titanic! Why he omitted so much important dialogue amazes me. I've got the Blu-ray version of both movies. The other mistake in A Night To Remember was the fourth smoke stack collapsing, not the first but the model that was sinking only had the ability to do so much but Office Boxhaul who was an adviser on A Night To Remember understood the limitations. Victor Garber who played Thomas Andrews on Camerons film was almost manic. We will never know what happened that night but I would bet good money that it was like Andrews on A Night To Remember. I think one of the hardest things to say was Lightoller in A Night To Remember when he says "Take charge of your selves
'A Night To Remember'. No others come close. Including THAT movie.
I first came across 'A Night to Remember' aged 12. My Dad showed it to me the night before I ever went on a ferry to France for the first time, on a school trip. 🤪
Last week I visited the Titanic Experience in Belfast, and did the full experience, including the guided tour of the slipways and the drawing office etc. Our tour guide said she preferred "A Night to Remember", and I completely agree.
I saw "A Night to Remember" long before James Cameron's film. I saw "Titanic" on a flight across the Atlantic (when films on planes still used a large screen), and afterwards I thought "I wonder why he bothered?" because it seemed to me so inferior to the earlier film. (I often think that about remakes, unnecessary sequels or films on a similar subject.)
the 1953 titanic movie, is actually genuinely my favourite out of all of them. sure, it might not be the most accurate, but something about it (specifically the final plunge) just makes me love it
As a kid,I saw A Night to Remember 2 to 4 years before Titanic released and loved it. From a Production values standpoint seeing Titanic in 1997 completely blew my mind. The 1997 film does a superior job capturing the imagination illustrating the ship's majestic qualities. It's also worth pointing out that the James Cameron movie really captures the sheer terror, chaos, and pandemonium surrounding the final plunge and the plight of the people stuck in the freezing Atlantic Ocean.
You gotta remember Rose is a 17 year old girl, and yeah, teenage girls being swept away by what Jack was saying is pretty accurate. If she were 3 years older it might be different.
NO WAY SHE WAS 17?!
@@CookingTWICE Yep, Rose as a character is 17. Kate Winslet was a few years older than the character she was playing.
@@dazanii Hard for me to believe in 1912 in a time like it was, that 1st Class woman would be interested or be close to a 3rd Class man regardless of age. They'd be lucky to meet during the day but at night im sure the gates between classe get locked.
@@Critic_Chris90210 yes, now that's more accurate
@@Critic_Chris90210 Love can make that happen.
In Camerons film there is a scene on deck of children playing that was photographed by Father Brown who got off the ship at Queenstown.The only photos taken on board that survived
Strangely the thing that got me interested in titanic was a little book, literally 2nd grade level reading, it was like a learn to read book but it was called "finding the titanic" and partially told the story of the night of the sinking and its maiden voyage and also Bob Ballard going down and finding it the first time.
Titanic movies should have a tier list, there's so many
absolutely agree with your verdict on watching Cameroons Titatnic first to spark interest and then go on to Night to remember. thats how i did it too and developed so much interest and knowledge on this. absolutely die hard fan on Titanic and its history in every aspect
Night to remember is my favourite.
They are both great movies for the period they were made in and for the most part still hold up! I still favor the 1997 film despite the romance there's just some brilliant details sprinkled in here and there. There was actually an interaction between captain Smith and Ismay discussing Titanics speed in the first class dining room and a passanger overheard them. In the background you can actually see a woman looking over at them. Cameron incorporated it into the film!
Who else wants to see him react to all the ridiculous animated Titanic movies (the rapping dog one and the octopus one with it's sequel)?
😄
That’d be hilarious
Make that happen! LOL!
The Bright Side videos about Titanic are already killing him,imagine what would those animated abominations do
@@KG-ds2fj Bright Side?
I very much agree with everything said here. Titanic (97) was my introduction to the tragedy and got me interested in the whole thing while A Night To Remember gave me better details. I'd definitely recommend both of them too.
I think you're misunderstanding how people who aren't Titanic enthusiasts think. You assume people watching the start of A Night to Remember and seeing the stock footage are all thinking "Oh that's the Titanic because it's got 4 funnels." The funnels have really got nothing to do with it. It's not so much that people are actively thinking "Oh that's stock footage of the Titanic." It's more that we're watching a movie, and within the context of the movie, that's the Titanic, and nobody's really thinking about it beyond that. Because when you watch a movie you're supposed to get immersed in it and not think about behind-the-scenes trivia. When talking about how general movie-goers see this scene, you're approaching from a Titanic-enthusiast perspective rather than a general movie-goer perspective. What I mean is, you (for example) as an enthusiast would watch that scene and immediately think "Hey that doesn't look like Titanic." This DOESN'T mean non-enthusiasts actively think "Hey that MUST BE TITANIC." It's more that we know we're watching a manufactured Hollywood movie and aren't really thinking either way about whether it is or isn't because we just want to watch the story.
My interest started in the Titanic in the 60’s. I even did a paper on it in 6th grade in 1966. I have several videos and movies about it.
I get it. 😄 Hey this review was great! I agree with your analysis, having now watched both in 2023.. that is the oldie for the first time and a rewatch of the 1997.
A Night to remember isn't perfect and was made with a much smaller budget and without access to more modern special effects like CGI. As such they had to resort to things like using stock footage for a few short scenes. But it hardly takes away from the story in my opinion. For its time it's a really well made movie in my opinion. The Cameron 1997 Titanic movie on the other hand was focused mostly on a fictional love story and on non-existing characters. The real people that were on the ship are with few exceptions only briefly mentioned and shown, almost as an afterthought. It also totally omits the whole issue with the SS Californian not coming to help them. For me this is all a major distraction from an otherwise interesting story of the sinking of the Titanic.
The strong point of the big budget Cameron production is the pretty visuals. It does do a nice job in showing what the ship looked like on particularly the inside. But storywise it's mostly nonsense and lacks much of the details that a Night to remember does show. It's really more like a fictional pocket book romance story pasted on top of a real life tragedy. A bit of a disgrace, in my opinion! I overall prefer A Night to remember and think this is the better Titanic movie.
I've never actually watched A Night to Remember but this video makes me want to watch it
Pick up the Criterion disc. It’s worth the money.
@@nealwhaley63 What's that?
A Night To Remember the one I prefer.
I think the best added value of both films is that it gives the beginner a basic structure of the sequence of that night’s events. Then, when you start learning the details you add them to this already existing framework in your memory. If we studied the detailed and not as much so stories of Lightoller or the Astors separate from these films it would be just a nightmare of a puzzle of connecting all the dots
4th Officer Boxhall, along with a few surviving passengers, served as advisors on "A Night to Remember". Plus Walter Lord interviewed many survivors in preparing his book. I first saw the movie on late night TV in the early 1970's, and have been a bug about Titanic lore ever since.
All except for the breaking of the ship, I’d say a night to remember.
Keep in mind…’Titanic’ was about a love story that took place on the ship.
‘A Night to Remember’ was about the sinking of the ship. 2 totally different story lines.
If you want more details about the sinking etc then you should watch a documentary, not a storyline movie.
‘A Night to Remember’ was made with the knowledge known and what they thought had happened about the sinking at the time. Cameron had proven scientific knowledge of what happened, had been down to the wreck, and was able to make his movie based on real factual events.
Both movies are good. Personally I prefer ‘A Night to Remember’ as its just a raw 1950’s black and white movie. You watch the movie and feel like you’re actually there. The scene of the bow submersing and water coming up over it and on to the well deck still gives me the chills.
Cameron’s movie, not so much. Its just another movie (albeit an extremely good one!)…a car with a nice ride, power steering and cruise control. ‘A Night to Remember’ is the no window, 4 speed hot rod with manual steering. That’s the one I want.
In 1912, the world was black & white.
There were no colors in these days.
Conspiracy theory ?
Ok, no.
But one detail I notice in the 1997 version is that the love birds consume there relation in the famous Renaud car.
That car was "boxed" meaning it was packaged for transport.
So when you see it, that is another "mistake" that was shown.
About the Year 69 or so i watched the Film A Night to remember here in Germany on TV. I was only 9 Years old and I remember that i was a little scared of all that Stuff that happend and my Mom told me not to look further and forced me to leave the Room. But i watched from behind the Door secretly. From this Night on i am into the Titanic-thing and Oceanliners in General. And of Course i loved the James Cameron Film a lot. Next Year my Hubby and I will take a Journey to Ireland/Belfast and visit the Titanic and Nomadic Museum. I dont know why i am telling you this but your Story remind me a little bit of mine - Only a few Decades earlier. Love your Videos Sam (Sry for my Engl)
In a few years Titanic will be 30 years old, and a remake will most likely happen. To freshen up the story for a new generation. I would hope they would remake "A Night To Remember" but with "on a sea of glass" level of historical accuracy. From the stories to exactly how the ship sank.
I would like a remake of Night to remember but with better special effects on the sinking, and what really happened to the ship, they didnt know that the ship break before sinking until they found the remains of the Ship in the ocean
A new version would have to include the submersible that was destroyed aiming to visit the Titanic wreck. That would be a plausible excuse for another remake.
Titanic doesn't need a remake or sequel it already is perfect also a sequel would be unrealistic since the Titanic is gone and Rose is dead and married Jack in the afterlife
@@Simbala-bq5vy Rose and Jack were just plot devices. The real character was the ship itself.
And the discovery of the ship made a sequel necessary and appropriate. That was, after all, a significant part of the remake.
And now there is a reason for a new remake. NEW VICTIMS of the Titanic disaster ---- those killed in the submersible. Imagine ---111 years after the Titanic sank, and new dead victims. That's a STORY!
I had to smile when you were introduced to Titanic! You saw James Cameron's TITANIC! now I'm a few decades older than you, but I too was introduced to Titanic by both a book and a movie! In my case I read about Titanic first and then the movie, A NIGHT TO REMEMBER! However I did watch TITANIC too , and loved it too!
To answer your question, I wouldn’t run for the hills if I met a guy like Jack who told me those things after 3 days. If it was 1912 and I was going to marry Hockley, I’d take Jack for sure!
PLs do a vid on the novel "futility, or the wreck of the titan" and the similarities between it and the sinking of the titanic
You have to remember that some of the things in each movie, are in there for effect. They are there to make it more exciting. Therefore, I don’t think that should discount how that isn’t factually correct. Cameron clearly loves the Titanic and has been there over 30 times and did an immense amount of research into the ship. I’ve not seen the Night to Remember, but it looks good too.
I just got off the Queen Mary 2. This ship is unlike any other of the new vessels. It is nostalgic for a time gone by. The Library is fantastic. I felt on this ship like I was back in time. This vessel has a regal feeling to it. When I was in the Queen's ballroom for high tea, I felt like I had returned to 1995. Being on this ship for the whole week ignited a deep interest in the Titanic. I knew about the Titanic; I went to see the 1997 film (when I barely knew English). In my 28 years cruising the seas, I have never encountered the kind of fog we saw for days on the QM2. The fog was so intense that one night the captain blew the horn about every 30 sec. We couldn't stop in Newport, RI, due to the fog. All these variables created an environment for me of what being on the Titanic would have been like. I don't know why? But I got off that cruise ship wanting to learn more about Titanic.
I was into Titanic in the 1970s and the reason being was my parents had this fantastic coffee table book on ships and ship stories, with the best story being that of titanic. As I recall it featured a colored painting of a lifeboat with a sailer holding up a lamp (I think?) and then in the backdrop was the massive Titanic sinking, it's stern way high into the air like about 60 or 70 degrees, it's propeller way up there, and all this seemed to be placed on a stormy sea with foamy surf every where. And so I read the story and have been amazed ever since. Everyone always thought Titanic sunk in one piece, including our vintage 1978 World Book Encylopedias never discussing even the possibility of it breaking apart (as I recall). I remember the discovery of Titanic's wreck in 1985 (?) and them saying they've discovered the main part of Titanic. Then all of a sudden a new history began to be written in foresight: all the broadcasts about it would say things like "the long debate of how Titanic sunk, weather in one or two pieces is finally over. We now know that Titanic sunk in one piece, and they are searching for the other." It seems like it took them a long time, maybe a year (?) to discover the other part of the wreck. But, one thing is for certain, there was zero debate that Titanic had sunk in one piece. It was recorded in all the history books and all the popular shows and encyclopedias that it had. It anyone says there was a debate, they are wrong. As far as the general public is concerned, there was ZERO debate that it had sank in one piece. Me, a true fan of Titanic lore during the 70s, had NEVER heard otherwise. The fact was: Titanic sank (in one piece). period. whatever debates they had must of been behind closed doors, well censored and secrete to the public. The lesson learned here is that censorship and keeping secretes, even when the government is not involved, is still in common use today. Beware folks, all to frequently the Truths are being held from us, even if they think they are censoring lies, they might not be. The experts can be proven wrong, and in the case of Titanic, they certainly were!
My fav Titanic films is ,,A night to remember''
It’s importantly…which Titanic DOCUMENTARY is the best ever made?
What I love about the James Cameron Titanic movie, is the fact that you see the actuall wreck. The footage James Cameron filmed from exploring the wreck and try to rebuild not only the ship but the wreck aswell.
In night to remember I hate when the funnels fall because it looks so fake like card board rolls falling kind of
i remember as a kid i was terrified of the 97 titanic movie, as i had only seen the second half of it, but as a kid I had the Ballard book and I used to sit and stare at the pictures in it for hours, it was my favorite thing
When I was 17, I was have been absolutely smitten with someone like Jack saying all of those things to me after 3 days. When my now husband told me at 3 days that he really liked me when I was 25, I almost ran for the hills. Other than it being Hollywood, the fact that she was only 17 would have made a huge difference.
The love story in the 1997 film is just as exaggerated as many love stories shown in Disney movies.
S.O.S. Titanic was really good because it had a very long scene with Ismay on the Carpathia at the beginning of the movie. Highly recommend it!
I was 15 when I saw Titanic in theater in 1997 and of course, being the hormonal teenager that I was, I was completely taken and blown away with this tragic love story, and that is ALSO what got me interested in the story of Titanic as well! I thought Jack and Rose's story was so romantic and all that sappy girly stuff and of course, i cried for the whole second half of the movie... Today though as a 41 years old single woman who never found love or got married or had kids, it would just annoy the HELL out of me and bore me to death. I juste recently saw A Night to Remember, and to be honest, its WAY BETTER movie that the Cameron movie historically speaking.
So all in all I love Camoron's Titanic but I appreciate a better and more historically accurate re count of the events like in A Night to Remember. ANd no fictional love story, please, I'm WAY past this stage...
Im so glad this guy was on the titanic to tell us what actually happened.
The way I've always looked at it is:
A Night to Remember delivers the facts on a more balanced way and doesn't stereotype it's characters. It does however lack energy, feels flat in places and is dated in look and limited in scale and special effects. A classic, but I feel modern audiences won't enjoy it as much as I do.
Titanic is my favourite film of all time. It's beautiful on ever level. The emotional impact that movie had on me was profound and what got me a Titanic enthusiast in the first place. However as time has gone on I do see cracks in the way the film was presented. I happen to think Plinkett's review hit the nail on the head when discussing the one dimensional depiction of the classes and some of the villainous characters. Cak for example lacks depth in any way. There are two scenes where you feel there might be a human being in there somewhere, but before it's explored it is ripped away and he's back being an irredeemable moustache twirler. Even when he's angry there's no depth behind it. Also Jack can be unlikeable sometimes.
Conclusion:
ANtR delivers the facts. Titanic delivers the emotion.
lol you're kidding right?
@@Billygoatsgrruff no
I don't know why it's so surprising that a movie from the 50's could be historically accurate. All the details came from interviews with survivors. Those interviews Walter Lord did are why we know all these details about individual experiences. It's not like history requires a lot of modern technology. The academic discipline and standards for objectivity and reliable sources has been established for a very long time.
A night to remember is a superior film. Easily wins IMO.
I view the Jack/Rose 'love' story, as Rose's last wild and free rampage filled with defiance against her mother before she was going to be forced to marry Cal. She was acting out, nothing else.
The way thay were able to get the people off that ship with just 2 hours that was amazing 🙏
Dude, your “when I was a little kid” photo made me laugh harder than I have in a long time. So unexpected.
Hands down "A Night to Remember." Nothing is going to be completely 100 percent accurate. The movie comes close enough to allow the viewer to get some sense of the tragedy, characters, and the story is on point. Mind you the Titanic wasn't discovered until the 1980s. Most people believed the ship went down intact. Yes, eye witnesses did account for the ship breaking apart, but in my view..."A Night to Remember" is the best.
A night to remember
I shook hands with six survivors of the Titanic in 1987 at a Titanic Historic Society convention in Boston, MA.
Beat that.
Thank you. This motivated me to finally watch "A Night to Remember", and what a great film. I felt like I was there just as much as in Cameron's film, except I could see so much more of what was happening. Honestly the only thing it was missing was James Horner's music and it would've been the n#1.
Night to Remember executes the accounts of real people's experience mainly after the ship strikes an ice berg, Cameron's Titanic executes the sinking outside everyone's account and grasps the environment of Titanic before, during, and after the ship strikes the ice berg.