The GSC codex is one of the most well written books, cover-to-cover, in terms of balance, quality units, and combos for competitive play. Unfortunately, it has as a high skill curve that armies like Custodes and Tau don't where they are just straightforward/easy-button, and thus more forgiving.
GSC 9th edition is a fantastic army to play. They are super fun and once you learn all their tricks, they have a reasonable chance to be able to beat any army you go up against.
Been in deep with GSC for a few years, they are so flavorful , fun, and difficult to play with. The high skill ceiling is a cool challenge and can be very powerful on the tabletop in a master's hands
Neat thing about kelermorph, is that you can drop him near your truck or rockgrinder, then he makes his perfect ambush shots, and use his move to hide inside transport. He also can shoot from inside of goliath truck, which is neat
Rusted Claw Atalan Jackals with 2 demo charges (+ RC stratagem) + kelermorph with wyrmtooth rounds and deep strike turn 1 = reliably took out 6 man unit of hive guards and got me engage in all 4 Q. The RC Strat + the Start to give max shots to grenades are a fearsome combo turn 1 if you want something gone and only invest 58 points to do so (138 with kelermorph)
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the only way the Kelermorph could come from reserves turn 1 is with 'From Every Angle' and that's Strategic Reserves.
Shh. Shh. Don't tell them. Don't worry about the kellermorph. It's just pistols. No one even bothers with shooting their pistols. It's nothing. By the way, strating the shooting upon death is the funniest way to flip the bird to your opponent for killing your coolest model.
Trick with GSC seems to be to start army building by picking out secondaries and going from there. As an army of glass cannons they don’t have staying power at all and you just can’t really hope to stand toe to toe with others. A very likely outcome with this codex seems to be to get completely tabled by turn 4 yet still win due to a massive lead in victory points.
Depends on your list. Aberrants are very tanky! Very underrated unit imo🙂 Like your trick though. "To the last or not to the last" seems to be the question😄
I know the purestrains are old enough to drive a moped and are sat next to the great current GSC range, but that 'Eavy Metal paint scheme certainly isn't doing them any favors. Throw some purple and blue on those pallid wretches with their open wounds, GW, so I can buy them without being reminded of that time E.T. got sick
That's the problem with the Tyranids too: some old models, but more than that, the Leviathan paint scheme is incredibly dull to look at (especially on shelves). It just isn't attractive at all.
The Tau shooting isn't what's winning tournaments. It's the fact that, for 1 CP, they can have three Devilfish full of AP -4 Breachers in the opponents' deployment zone, stretching 40" of coverage on turn 1. So they max score, delete a massive chunk of your army, and now you are boxed in, having to waste considerable resources to get rid of those. Oh, and behind them? Waves of Stealth Suits, Crisis Suits, a Commander, SkyRays, an hilariously underpriced Stormsurge, Hammerheads...
@@richard_n Yeah, but that's only after Tau have scored max points, have a massive pile of units in your deployment zone, and have killed 60+ infantry turn 1.
As others have mentioned, this is the best written book I've ever played, but it is still very much NOT a user friendly army, hence the poor showing in majors.
I haven't tested it, but a fun combo I'm brain storming is rusted Claw's warlord ability, entropy touch, on a patriarch and target something effected by inescapable decay. Supported by a pack of purestrain to act as body shield. Your putting a lot of eggs in one basket but its gonna hurt if it works
how about the sanctus? he auto hit anything, places crossfire markers and can wound support characters and potentially one shot them (easyer if psykers) not to mentin shout down auras with the stratagem. Plus difficoult to target and, once your enemies start to know this guy by fame, I easy imagine them try to screen their buffing characters instead of maximizing their aura efficency. I foud people usally care (maybe too much) for their characters.
Problem is, same as any other snipers, he can't target the characters when there's a unit a bodyguard hiding behind the wall. GW really need to fix the bodyguard rule for good.
@@jiankundong7318 No kidding. They give us some of the coolest sniper rules, wargear, and units in 40k history, and then take them all away because bodyguards can hide in buildings.
@@maugan22 you need to focus all your attacks on a single unit to place crossfire markers. But I get your point, Kelly is awesome. Still I think Sanctus has its uses
I've been your videos more recently. And as an amateur musician I have to say something... Please, if you're not using a pop shield get one. You might also consider a de-esser. Your esses are very harsh. Plus a little compression can help with dialogue.
Great video and great timing for a match against GSC I've got coming up next week. I've had first hand experience of a Kelermorph coming down behind my lines in a small 500pt game, getting 6 Wyrmtooth round hits on a squad of Tyranid warriors (not running crusher stampede that game so no invuls) and killing 4 of them :( Was so shocked by the whirlwind that I totally forgot I could have just used unyielding chitin to reduce the damage to 2 and would have taken half the casualties! You learn from your mistakes I guess!
Auspex, the fun thing you could do in next time you will do that mathhammer on killed units, add chaos space marines killed there, just to show how bad they are
Great list🙂👍 Aberrants are super underrated. With 1 cp, abominant and +1attack spell they avg over 50 wounds to t7 vehicles/monsters. Another cp for s9 and you comfortably kill 2 knights in one go😂 They are also for their points some of the best tanks in the game I think. Running 2 blocks of 8-10 seems really powerful in a couple of trialgames I've done. Autowin vs custodes pretty much. Advance/fall back and charge from spell is great. 3d6 charge from reserves is great. Rusted claw/bladed cog has nice defensive buffs. Custom / pauper princes best aggresive🙂 Also I think I disagree slightly with twisted helix being strongest. They build the best purestrains and have a good spell. But thats about it. Gsc shooting is VERY strong, custom/rusted claw build very fierce shooting oriented armies! To me there is no cult I'm not considering for strongest cult, they are all amazing, including custom. Also rockgrinder OP, always bring 3!😄
Necrons are still in the same, middle-of-the-pack position they have been in for all of 9th. Literally no codexes have made them worse. In fact, we have a local guy who has been secret-tech beating competitive Tau lists with them in preparations for Adepticon.
@@RaelagDidEverythingRight If the army doesn't have a 9th edition codex yet, the comparisons don't count. Plain and simple. I promise you Astra Militarum will be JUUUUUST fine once they do.
I don't believe so no. The unit is 5-15 models, you can only take 2 drills per 5 models in the squad, the models only start with 2 attacks each, there is also a psychic power and proficient planning upgrade to give them +1 attack but they can't stack with each other. So at most a unit of 15 with 6 rock drills will only be putting out 18 attacks with those drills.
The GSC codex is one of the most well written books, cover-to-cover, in terms of balance, quality units, and combos for competitive play. Unfortunately, it has as a high skill curve that armies like Custodes and Tau don't where they are just straightforward/easy-button, and thus more forgiving.
why I like them. No one can say your army is over powered just your overpowered playing them
Well put.
GSC 9th edition is a fantastic army to play. They are super fun and once you learn all their tricks, they have a reasonable chance to be able to beat any army you go up against.
I would love to see more “know your enemies” in the future!
Been in deep with GSC for a few years, they are so flavorful , fun, and difficult to play with. The high skill ceiling is a cool challenge and can be very powerful on the tabletop in a master's hands
Neat thing about kelermorph, is that you can drop him near your truck or rockgrinder, then he makes his perfect ambush shots, and use his move to hide inside transport. He also can shoot from inside of goliath truck, which is neat
Rusted Claw Atalan Jackals with 2 demo charges (+ RC stratagem) + kelermorph with wyrmtooth rounds and deep strike turn 1 = reliably took out 6 man unit of hive guards and got me engage in all 4 Q. The RC Strat + the Start to give max shots to grenades are a fearsome combo turn 1 if you want something gone and only invest 58 points to do so (138 with kelermorph)
Sounds hefty
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the only way the Kelermorph could come from reserves turn 1 is with 'From Every Angle' and that's Strategic Reserves.
@@SymSne yes thats right, thats what I meant with deep strike turn 1. placement slightl different but his 18" range is enough to get a good angle
Time to hide your Denim.
😂
Flip in your command phase if going first, or after opponents movement phase if going second. Your visual aid has it backwards. No biggy.
Shh. Shh. Don't tell them. Don't worry about the kellermorph. It's just pistols. No one even bothers with shooting their pistols. It's nothing.
By the way, strating the shooting upon death is the funniest way to flip the bird to your opponent for killing your coolest model.
Trick with GSC seems to be to start army building by picking out secondaries and going from there. As an army of glass cannons they don’t have staying power at all and you just can’t really hope to stand toe to toe with others. A very likely outcome with this codex seems to be to get completely tabled by turn 4 yet still win due to a massive lead in victory points.
Depends on your list. Aberrants are very tanky! Very underrated unit imo🙂 Like your trick though. "To the last or not to the last" seems to be the question😄
I've started building a modest cult, looking forward to trying them out
I know the purestrains are old enough to drive a moped and are sat next to the great current GSC range, but that 'Eavy Metal paint scheme certainly isn't doing them any favors.
Throw some purple and blue on those pallid wretches with their open wounds, GW, so I can buy them without being reminded of that time E.T. got sick
That's the problem with the Tyranids too: some old models, but more than that, the Leviathan paint scheme is incredibly dull to look at (especially on shelves). It just isn't attractive at all.
@@saltedllama2759 behemoth scheme would be nice
They seem interesting, too bad Tau non line of sight shooting deletes them from the table!
True and sad facts. Though it possible to beat them.
What units do you think Tau will get nerfed in the next CA?
The problem is that GSC can 1st round engage pretty easy and all that shooting becomes basically worthless
The Tau shooting isn't what's winning tournaments. It's the fact that, for 1 CP, they can have three Devilfish full of AP -4 Breachers in the opponents' deployment zone, stretching 40" of coverage on turn 1. So they max score, delete a massive chunk of your army, and now you are boxed in, having to waste considerable resources to get rid of those. Oh, and behind them? Waves of Stealth Suits, Crisis Suits, a Commander, SkyRays, an hilariously underpriced Stormsurge, Hammerheads...
@@richard_n Yeah, but that's only after Tau have scored max points, have a massive pile of units in your deployment zone, and have killed 60+ infantry turn 1.
As others have mentioned, this is the best written book I've ever played, but it is still very much NOT a user friendly army, hence the poor showing in majors.
I haven't tested it, but a fun combo I'm brain storming is rusted Claw's warlord ability, entropy touch, on a patriarch and target something effected by inescapable decay. Supported by a pack of purestrain to act as body shield. Your putting a lot of eggs in one basket but its gonna hurt if it works
how about the sanctus? he auto hit anything, places crossfire markers and can wound support characters and potentially one shot them (easyer if psykers) not to mentin shout down auras with the stratagem. Plus difficoult to target and, once your enemies start to know this guy by fame, I easy imagine them try to screen their buffing characters instead of maximizing their aura efficency. I foud people usally care (maybe too much) for their characters.
Problem is, same as any other snipers, he can't target the characters when there's a unit a bodyguard hiding behind the wall. GW really need to fix the bodyguard rule for good.
@@jiankundong7318 No kidding. They give us some of the coolest sniper rules, wargear, and units in 40k history, and then take them all away because bodyguards can hide in buildings.
Kellermorph with wyrmtooth can place up to three crossfire markers, hand out to hit rerolls and shoot on death.
@@maugan22 you need to focus all your attacks on a single unit to place crossfire markers. But I get your point, Kelly is awesome. Still I think Sanctus has its uses
@@Animiel1 Crap, good point, that changes my list a bit, thanks for pointing that out
Purestrains move 8 not 9. 9 in twisted helix sure, but 8 normally
I've been your videos more recently. And as an amateur musician I have to say something...
Please, if you're not using a pop shield get one. You might also consider a de-esser. Your esses are very harsh. Plus a little compression can help with dialogue.
They are a bit sharp, yes
I do really like gsc not sure if I'll ever play them outside of just getting the combat patrol
Get some more models, they are really cool, only 1 box games are generally kind of boring
I’m glad about the codex because it seems lore accurate. Super fragile units, but really sneaky and tricky
The weakpoint of the gsc is how dependent they are on the purestrains in this codex.
Great video and great timing for a match against GSC I've got coming up next week. I've had first hand experience of a Kelermorph coming down behind my lines in a small 500pt game, getting 6 Wyrmtooth round hits on a squad of Tyranid warriors (not running crusher stampede that game so no invuls) and killing 4 of them :( Was so shocked by the whirlwind that I totally forgot I could have just used unyielding chitin to reduce the damage to 2 and would have taken half the casualties! You learn from your mistakes I guess!
Has there been an army difficulty tier list or something similar made? I can't find anything other than reddit comments on the topic
Mm, glad I waited for purestrains to get improved. But I might wait for their old ancient models to be improved before I get a bunch of 'em.
Auspex, the fun thing you could do in next time you will do that mathhammer on killed units, add chaos space marines killed there, just to show how bad they are
This sounds super not fun to play against. Am I crazy?
It's awesome to see the a return of the know your enemy series
How do Orks deal with them? I play 1500 pts. on sunday and i dont know how to face them... ^^'
Appreciate help :D
Great list🙂👍
Aberrants are super underrated. With 1 cp, abominant and +1attack spell they avg over 50 wounds to t7 vehicles/monsters. Another cp for s9 and you comfortably kill 2 knights in one go😂
They are also for their points some of the best tanks in the game I think. Running 2 blocks of 8-10 seems really powerful in a couple of trialgames I've done. Autowin vs custodes pretty much.
Advance/fall back and charge from spell is great. 3d6 charge from reserves is great. Rusted claw/bladed cog has nice defensive buffs. Custom / pauper princes best aggresive🙂
Also I think I disagree slightly with twisted helix being strongest. They build the best purestrains and have a good spell. But thats about it. Gsc shooting is VERY strong, custom/rusted claw build very fierce shooting oriented armies!
To me there is no cult I'm not considering for strongest cult, they are all amazing, including custom.
Also rockgrinder OP, always bring 3!😄
Wish there was more Brood Brother synergies
Brood brothers in 9th get orders by default. Move move move on infantry which can bodyguard effectively for characters is pretty impressive.
Excavate works across the board, not just in YOUR deployment zone (@12:50)
Aren't Rock drills are -4 AP
This is awesome. Thank you for covering my beloved Cult! 👾👍🏽
If Purestrain Genestealers are like this all I shudder to think about what buffs Tyranid Genestealers will get.
this is why i'm bringing two units of intilitrators, need to screen those guys out
WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! THANK YOOOOOOOOOOOOU AUSPEX
eldar codex power level makes my necron head hurt
imagine guard players
@@RaelagDidEverythingRight that's why Cadia is no more 🙃
I see… did your necron’s heads all explode when Custodes and Tau were released? Both are way more OP than eldars can ever hope to be
Necrons are still in the same, middle-of-the-pack position they have been in for all of 9th. Literally no codexes have made them worse. In fact, we have a local guy who has been secret-tech beating competitive Tau lists with them in preparations for Adepticon.
@@RaelagDidEverythingRight If the army doesn't have a 9th edition codex yet, the comparisons don't count. Plain and simple. I promise you Astra Militarum will be JUUUUUST fine once they do.
Can you still load jean stealers in a chimera?
Drills are ap-4
Can we pleas see a new updated ork codex brake down
Hexmark Destroyer should have Kelermorph power :(
It's what you get for Kelermorph being a named character while the Hexmark is a generic unit.
Very nasty tricks.
Question regarding acolytes with rock drills: is there any way to get 28 rock drill attacks on the charge?
I don't believe so no. The unit is 5-15 models, you can only take 2 drills per 5 models in the squad, the models only start with 2 attacks each, there is also a psychic power and proficient planning upgrade to give them +1 attack but they can't stack with each other.
So at most a unit of 15 with 6 rock drills will only be putting out 18 attacks with those drills.
@@craigkenny37 I may have been bamboozled then at LVO. Thanks man
6s cause 2 mortals in addition so if he got lucky you could have taken that much in damage
@@Primus_84 it was 28 attacks, end results was 18 damage and 8 mortals on my invictor
yes
yes
@@bird4313 indeed