Nice to see a Buick big block. My uncle was a toolmaker for Buick. He raced a 455 Stage 2 stock car. I remember him picking me up at the train station in a Riviera 455 stage 1, auto trans w/a shift kit. When he jumped on it to get on I-75, the dash shook when it shifted. Great memories! His Wildcat years prior was stolen in the Buick City parking lot. R.I.P. Uncle Larry. You taught me a lot.
Damn, even Uncle Tony spoke of a Riviera Stage 1 that one of his customers owned decades ago, and how "brutal" it was. Weeks ago, I posted a comment under one of these Buick series of videos, telling about a '71 Riviera that I owned long ago, that was insanely fast with the most torque any of us ever experienced in any of the factory classic cars. My dad & several uncles were hot rodders & good mechanics. They all drove that thing & swore "this is no regular 455 Riviera". I asked Dallas about it in that comment, and he said that Stage 1 packages were indeed available on the '71 Riviera's. The damned thing even came with a factory posi rear-end. So I believe it must've been a Stage 1 package. I wouldn't race any of the faster cars in town from a standing start, for obvious reasons. But I would blow their doors off from a 40 mph roll-off. I kid you not. I drove it for about a year & sold it. It still ran great & used no oil. Wish I still had it.
While Buick did not "officially" offer the "Stage 1" package on Rivieras until 1973, the 1971 and 1972 Riviera Dealer Order Form lists the G.S. Option (yes, it actually has "periods" on the order form) as having: a modified 4 bbl high performance engine. Tearing down several Centurion and Riviera engines revealed large valve heads that were not unshrouded like the Stage 1 heads were. We also believe they had Stage 1 valve springs and different carb jetting and distributor curve.
Just remember, there were no 1970 Stage 1 Rivs. All of this "big car" Stage 1 business was accurately covered in the GSCA's GSX-tra publications years ago by Richard Lasseter. Those old GSX-tra issues were a wealth of ACCURATE info. BTW, back when the over-the-counter Stage 2 parts were offered, the B4B manifold pictured here had only the Holley bolt pattern. The dual bolt pattern B4B shown here came much later. These could be used for either square bolt or spread bolt carburetors. Also, no Stage 2 parts came in the trunk. They had to be ordered over the counter from any "in the know" Buick parts dept.
Gotta love Buick! They made some great looking cars that were comfortable and quick, too! A Riviera is pretty high on my list of dream cars- the hard part is deciding which one to pick!
I built a 1986 Regal with a 1970 455 out of a 1970 Electra, stock th350 and converter, Moser 9" 31 spline track loc w/2.75 gears, ran 12.83 @108mph in the 1/4!
Mopar 440 was the best on the street! I never lost to a 455 or any Pontiac,unless I slept on at the light and lost traction(very hard to get traction)..These were all basically stock cars,headers,carb,mufflers only mods!
Thank you for posting this im currently working on a 1973 buick Riviera and this helped so much. I soon plan on geeting back to work restoring mt grandfathers car a 1970 Oldsmobile ralley 350 hurst shifter
I'd like to see a sbb 300 stroker using a stroked 350 crank and 6.2 Nascar take out rods that are for the 1.850" rod journal size that will give you an extra .140" stroke. Will require custom pistons. And then top it off with a set of TA aluminum Rover heads. Out of the box intake max flow is 225 CFM, can be ported to 300. A solid roller cam would be a great addition to that build but to take advantage of all the extra air flow, a custom intake would be a great idea. It would end up as a 362 CID if you give it a .050" overbore. Can't wait to see this built. If you have any questions feel free to ask, I'll share everything you need to know to build the above.
Don't forget that FE's have the lightest heads.....because 1/3 of it is connected to that heavy intake.... Loose the Iron intake for aluminum and save 60 pounds
I'm not really a Buick guy but this is SUPER COOL. These days I am a Mopar guy but in high school I had a 76 ElCamino that someone shoehorned an Olds 350R into.
@@vicmccartin the 352 is not a Y block if that's what you're asking. The Y blocks under oiled the rockers and the FEs over oiled them, however the FE is famous for snapping the end of the shaft at high rpms.
Dallas, can you talk about what aftermarket/factory upgrades people would make to the Buicks ? What parts you could get that would make a difference. Thanks from 15 minutes away from Flint
One company so far makes part. TAPERFORMANCE. They seem to have absolutely nothing available since the pandemic. And They wont answer on facebook. There is another one that is coming out, that have crank kits. Kenny betts racing.com. But for the most part, its Ta performance out of Arizona .
@@vicmccartin id just tie them to my frame and do a quarter mile with them dragging behind me bonus points for an unprepped road maybe stay a bit too long in the burnout box so i can cake their bodies in melting rubber
Great video! I would love to see some Buick Small Block content now that you have covered the legendary Buick Big Blocks. More content on Buick oiling systems would also be great such as showing us how to set up an oil pump, port a timing cover and perform other oiling system upgrades. I have a Buick 350 factory installed in my 1969 Jeep Wagoneer and would first like to know what I should do to prolong it's life (oil system upgrades etc) and after that I'd like to hop it up a little bit. It's the factory two barrel engine but I obtained a '69 four barrel intake to install. I'm undecided on what carburetor to run, it's a street driven truck so I'm looking for good drivability, mileage, and low end to mid-range power... I've heard a lot of great things about the factory style QuadraJets but would one of those be too difficult for a me as a total carb newbie to tune?
Checkout the oldsmob455 channel on UA-cam. They go though a oiling system modification on an AMC 401. Very similiar oiling system with the pump in the front cover.
How about a multi-part series building a stage 1 455 from dirty old parts to running? It might make a good winter project. You can show all your little tricks ect. Maybe uncle Tony can put it in an Apollo and see what she can do...
Man I’d kill to see some stuff on the aluminum 215’s. I’m daydreaming of swapping a Rover 4.0 into my 2nd gen Camaro, would be killer to see what makes those gems tick!
let's see him run some buick stuff to your mopar stuff uncle. do some side by side comparisons. pros and cons who did what better and who did what worse etc
The rocker arms are unsupported on the ends on FE Fords. My old boss Kip Martin raced a 352 in a '64 Galaxie in SS/OA. He built ten sets of rocker shafts and stands that did away with the through bolt setup to strengthen the shaft. It changed the flex at the end of the shaft from around .020 to about .001 when using 750 lb springs for the roller cam. Buick seems to have actually put a little thought into their exhaust manifolds for a long time. Some of the old nailheads had tri-y style manifolds.
I knew this crazy small town cop that drove a 73 LeSabre. He was in pursuit through a construction zone and came down so hard the motor mounts squashed and the pan hit the torsion bar. He came in with a rod hammering the pan.
Great detailed video Tony!!! These old big block are laying around in rusted out hulks all over America and people don’t realize the torque monster they are. They also don’t realize how easy they will bolt into a suburban or even a Camaro.
You guys KNOW what most of us wanna see, lol. A Buick 455 stage 1 package.......put it in any old Skylark, or whatever you can afford......and let's see that baby run at the track.
Best street/race cam like stage 1 or 2, The different carbs cfm, Are the ram cars overrated, I've only see one stage 2 car different hood scoop and it look like bbc heads. Also the buick 350 is a little rocket also.
You mean the Mopar Ram Cars? they were most certainly NOT overrated. It was a platform run by the engineers at Chrysler on their own dime. They were looking for ways of making Chrysler products faster on the lot, not just at the track. They were successful in that as well.
Next if he's got one the 215 Aluminum Block. Although the Olds version with extra head bolts is likely stronger. The 215 is basically the root of the Buick Small Block.
I HAVE ONE OF THOSE 4B4 INTAKE MANIFOLDS FOR BIG BLOCK OLDS . I BOUGHT IT YEARS AGO NEVER TRIED IT YET . I HAVE A 70 442 TO TRY IT OUT ON ONE DAY SOON . YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB . THANKS.
I've got a 500 caddy in my k30 and I luv it, almost 550 tq at 2200 rpm. It's a good feeling doing a burnout with 4:56 gears and 35 12.50's and I'm not even in the secondaries.. almost diesel like torque. Been thinking about 3:73's because of gas prices though, it's got the torque to turn em
A friend in high school had a 70 or 71 Buick GS Stage 1 or 2 can’t recall. It had independent rear suspension, like a Corvette. Only Buick had that option, couldn’t get it on the Grand Prix, Cutlass, or Chevelle or Monte Carlo. That car was fast and rode like a dream.
You may have thought so, but no it didn't. It was not a Stage 2. There were NO independent sup. for any American car but Corvette in those days. If all was in good shape, all Buicks "rode like a dream".
All of this stuff is great. Unless you happen to live in an area like I do. Emissions control inspections as manufactured. Takes all the fun out of rebuilding, all of it.
It has been a while since I have seen anything on Big block buicks on youtube. Thanks! I have a 71 455 that is in a 225 2dr electra that has rotted rear frame rails from the salted winter roads up north. I picked up a real nice roller 79 F body camaro that I'm going to stuff the 455 in. Pretty much going to leave the 455 stock except for a refresh and a TA cam swap and edelbrock intake.
@@ScottKenny1978 nice like the real trans am engine for the trans am series in 69 .what heads you gonna use and what is that a 326 crank or something earlier ? , use to have a 428 high compression small valve head motor in a 79 trans am
@@vicmccartin gonna have to have a billet crank made with a 2.84" stroke. That whimper you just heard was my bank account. Found that DCI makes aluminum Ram Air V heads, so those are going on. Problem is actually deck height. If I do it right, I will have to either cut down a 400 deck by 1.1" or use a 301 Turbo block and sleeve it for the 4.12" bore.
@@ScottKenny1978 no shit lol we all have are demons. Should be a high winding poncho what are you putting it in with what trans and compression and cam ? Sounds cool . butler heads i assume or some ram IV clones ?
Love to cover the switch pitch transmissions up to '67, which were used in Pontiacs and Olds. Auburn cone posi units. My old '69 GS400 had one which worked great.
Thank you, and yes I am curious about the timing cover and block oiling mods? I have my 70' GS455, block out to rebuild, but I put a 73' Riviera stock block in it to keep it running. Another key point is my 1970 block was drilled out for my clutch arm pivot bolt, but when I put the 73' motor in I had to drill and tap it? Great series guys👍
Damned Buick 455 oil pans...installed a 430 from a Riviera into an Electra back in the 80's, had to swap the pan because it was Riviera motor. Got motor installed and sounded like a bad rod knock. Ended up dumping the car off to a buddy who pulled the dang motor again. When he checked the rod bearings - they were all fine. Turned out that one rod bolt was hitting the fricking oil pan- he could see a little scrape mark. He pounded the pan out a bit and put her back in the car....it purred like a kitten. He flipped the car and made a grand on the deal....I was quite p.o. 'd.
One hour long (rather than an all day marathon) assembly video of any Buick engine. Then, maybe another vid on the details of the machining of the block and specs of the parts. [And... Dammit UT, I'm the guy who keeps bringing up the 273 sbm questions and NOT the troll with the same first name!] And, Dallas is my other hero now!
I'm a Buick lover, I had a 71 Wyoming highway patrol lesabor my dad's uncle gave me, his son gave me a 74 4 door I put the 430 from the 71 in the 74 just before I moved to Vegas when I was 19, was very good friends with guys that set up the 1/4 miles track, I ran the old girl several times just setting up the clock and the guys couldn't believe that old 4 door ran 12,90 in the 1/4 mile,one diehard Buick guy came over and was talking to me, he noticed the valve cover!!! Then proceeded to argue with me that it was never produced!! It had the ribs from inside to outside but in center was raised.......430 pi!!!! All I did was pull the frozen 350 out and put engine, trans,drive line and rear-end from the 71, truthfully was first swap out of all the drive train for me, I was 15 but drove car from 16 till 24, nothing could touch it street or track in my class!! All stock, cast everything, only thing I did was take the hood off, I got tired of opening it to prove all stock! I've been told that they never made A police inercepter Buick, but the valve covers had raised 430 pi that matched the rest of cover! It was a old blue and white Wyoming highway police car!!
A couple things that were left off in this video: The Stage 1 package also came with a different distributor and a more aggressive transmission with the designation "BB" along with 3.64 gears. The Factory Stage 2 option also included a more aggressive cam, round exhaust port heads and headers to match...not just a B4B intake. Great video!
True. Only a few distributor internals were different to change the advance curve. Cam-wise, the Stage 1 exhaust was used as the Stage 2 intake lobe and a new, more aggressive exhaust lobe was used. Lift was still well under .490'.
@@albundyrocks2115 Thanks, Al. Looks and sounds great. I've never seen it at the GS Nats. (May 17-20 '23). Do you know about that fantastic BUICK-only event?
@@albundyrocks2115 I understand. I went this year and it was really something else, but everyone was much older but still having a ball. It was surprisingly big and people and cars everywhere. Kudos to Rich Lasseter for keeping this event going strong after 42 years! .
I bought a 82 regal years ago it has a 68 350 4 barrel from a special in it I'm really considering putting it in my 87 regal 82 and 87 both barn finds car's same paint colors and interior
I would like to add that the Stage2 package came with the Stage2 camshaft & pushrods; Holley 850 cfm mechanical-secondary carburetor; a set of 11:1 or 12:1 forged-aluminum piston set; GM 4:78 - 10 bolt gears; edelbrock B-4B aluminum intake and finally a set of the real Mickey Thompson Super Scavenger headers that were painted Orange- prior to the release of the Stage2 cylinder heads.
Staten Island in the 80's? Holy sheet, we could have smelled each other's landfills. I live on the edge of the Hackensack meadowlands in NJ along the tpk.
Fun fact, I haven’t heard them mention it but the SR-71 Blackbird relied on 2 Buick 401s to start it. A special trailer with straight-piped 401s attached together thru auto transmissions with belt drives jump-started the compressors in the Pratt & Whitney engines that powered the Bird.
You 2 have fantastic energy exchange . Very complementary to each other. Tony gets himself reeled back in usually. If not Dallas just observe our beloved Tony going off the deep end , he gives Tony a moment. Then carry on !!! Great content gentlemen 🚹 👏
I would like to see a mid to mid to late 50's Roadmaster coupe, with no posts...or a special (convertible!!!) build with a 455 CID motor and a 4/6 speed on the floor! While we are at it a tunnel ram or a blower set up, say a 8-71 with twin electronic injection, and also if you want you could twin turbo it! But again with 16 injctor electronic system! Do not forget the methanol injection system! It should all fit under the hood! Unless you want to tunnel ram it and then 871 BDS Blow it!!! ....that would be sweet! but there is more!!! ...another sweet thing would be to heat the entire body and sandwich it by a couple or so inches, like that 57 I saw a while back!!! The lights should also have the "Stewie" head effect also! Custom interior, maybe a bench that has buckets crafted into it! for rear end you can IFS it or if you feel like doing some work craft a Nissan r3x AWD system with the 6 speed manual, Lower it all around and put some big 14 inch plus brakes with the Hyroboost setup, some 335mm tires in teh back and say 285mm in front! On custom "steelies" that make it look vintage! You could also include the ABS rings so that you can retrofit traction control and braking amenities into it, just so that you can modernize everything! You know bring it to this century type thing! For dash gauges, some vintage airplane white faced gauges with nice mirror polished/finished steel rings! The glass could be also be treated with some of that gorilla glass diamond coatings so that it never scratches! So what do you say! I can come up with project names if you like! Just if you build it mention me a bit!
i've been cobbling and hording Oldsmobile and Buick kajiggers up the frigsake for a few forevers. i like the W's lot but i have a hard on for 442 stuff. i guess i'll be letting it all go in a few more years
@@danieljennings7769 i ask because i never heard of 'em...any details? Most Buick heads after the nailhead were thought to be great flowing all on their own. But i know even Olds considered a DOHC head, so a Buick tunnelport is interesting... www.buickperformanceclub.com/455hdcompare.htm
Buick big block is the only engine that when I hit the gas feels that torque is more than I need, I have stage 1 upgraded to some stage 2 specs. custom design heads valves and carb spacer by myself. I also did custom jets and rods on carb to have better gas mileage on city and good power when I need to leave everyone in dust.
Talk about the GS 340 stuff ,much overlooked motor they came with a glide behind them it's a high revving motor as long as you have taken care of the oil starvation issues . It runs like a 327 but better !LOL As a a kid i drove to Kenne-Bell and picked up all my parts because they took month to deliver stuff back then 80,81 LOL Kenne Bell was Synonymous for slow turtle style shipping ! That's why i drove out and just picked up what they had in stock ! LOL This is way before they went ford stuff LOOL
Question: Could you please elaborate about the bent 455 crank. I need a video. I believe I have that issue, although it ran before I disassembled it, now it's back together and I really have to wrench on it to get the motor to spin by hand. What would be a good hi torque starter to use? Thanks
So if I gather everything correct, these 455’s would drastically benefit from a dry sump oil system with the flow upgrades/chamfering the passages. You could perfectly regulate pressure and put zero pump load on the camshaft, and have a pretty shallow pan so it fits in anything, and being dry sump it doesn’t matter that the stock pans don’t have grate Windage trays. ??
1) drill the block to 5/8” 2) high volume oil pump gears with a spacer and stock spring 3) make a cam button to prevent walking by using a brass button head bolt (drill and tap the timing cover and make sure to seal it because it goes through to the water pump area) 4) groove front cam journal (behind the bearing) to allow oil flow to cam bearing 5) install a oil gallery bypass on back of block so drivers side lifters don’t starve for oil 6) block off 67-69 head oil passage and use 1970 and up rocker shafts and pushrods 7) when building, remove all casting flash from lifter gallery 8)make sure that oil holes in bearings line up with oil feed holes in block 9)machine block and main caps for a main girdle because the Buick big block is not very strong at above 550hp 10) use aluminum intake and heads to drop fully dressed Weight to around 550lb 11) use a different engine. These were really cool motors in their day, but far better options exist nowadays. Parts for these are almost unobtainable now. If anyone wants a few 350s with a set of rebuilt heads and a rebuild kit, let me know I’ll give it away to a good home.
@@twoeightythreez holy smokes my friend! That's quite a rundown! Thanks for the info drop!! This is why I love the car community! Lots of folks willing to help one another out!
@@twoeightythreez I also agree with point 11 on your rundown. If it weren't for my 68 GS400 being so complete I'd probably just LS it and be done. I've also got a pretty clean 69 Skylark that's just a roller that might just get the ls. Buick big block torque is so so addictive but when a guy can build two mild LS's for the price of one BBB it's kind of a no brainer.
I would like to see a nail head buildup for horsepower. There are a number of nail head performance parts and Centerville auto has a recommended head porter that can flow the heads to a big block 455 CFM. They also have camshafts, valves, springs, roller rocker arms and other engine parts. Thanks, Robert Stump
Would like more on the 350s. I have a new, never installed 79/80 Buick 350. My high school auto shop won it at GM trouble shooting contest back then. I bought it in 89. It's still never been ran..
I wish you guys were around when we were in highschool choosing what we wanted to build. If somebody someday invents a time machine, I'm sneaking you both in front of the line. Those later rockers were simply not getting enough oil, if the shafts themselves didn't provide oiling holes. Ideal would be to supplementally lubricate the 161s through later-type pushrods. No kidding. So Edelbrock was casting Stage II intake manifolds for GM? I'd like to see something on the dual-vane torque converters for the THD-400s and maybe something on header types
Nice to see a Buick big block. My uncle was a toolmaker for Buick. He raced a 455 Stage 2 stock car. I remember him picking me up at the train station in a Riviera 455 stage 1, auto trans w/a shift kit. When he jumped on it to get on I-75, the dash shook when it shifted. Great memories! His Wildcat years prior was stolen in the Buick City parking lot. R.I.P. Uncle Larry. You taught me a lot.
I have to say that is so cool to see an upscale GM engine swapped into the Chevy!
So true..better than a LS swap!!
Definitely like that it’s different than the normal swaps.
@@jtuck6065 absolutely! Plus it's a torque monster...just what the Dr. Ordered..
Andy
I run one of these in my 72GMC 2500 longhorn
Makes sense for a tow rig! And definitely something different.
Damn, even Uncle Tony spoke of a Riviera Stage 1 that one of his customers owned decades ago, and how "brutal" it was. Weeks ago, I posted a comment under one of these Buick series of videos, telling about a '71 Riviera that I owned long ago, that was insanely fast with the most torque any of us ever experienced in any of the factory classic cars. My dad & several uncles were hot rodders & good mechanics. They all drove that thing & swore "this is no regular 455 Riviera". I asked Dallas about it in that comment, and he said that Stage 1 packages were indeed available on the '71 Riviera's. The damned thing even came with a factory posi rear-end. So I believe it must've been a Stage 1 package. I wouldn't race any of the faster cars in town from a standing start, for obvious reasons. But I would blow their doors off from a 40 mph roll-off. I kid you not. I drove it for about a year & sold it. It still ran great & used no oil. Wish I still had it.
While Buick did not "officially" offer the "Stage 1" package on Rivieras until 1973, the 1971 and 1972 Riviera Dealer Order Form lists the G.S. Option (yes, it actually has "periods" on the order form) as having: a modified 4 bbl high performance engine. Tearing down several Centurion and Riviera engines revealed large valve heads that were not unshrouded like the Stage 1 heads were. We also believe they had Stage 1 valve springs and different carb jetting and distributor curve.
Just remember, there were no 1970 Stage 1 Rivs. All of this "big car" Stage 1 business was accurately covered in the GSCA's GSX-tra publications years ago by Richard Lasseter. Those old GSX-tra issues were a wealth of ACCURATE info.
BTW, back when the over-the-counter Stage 2 parts were offered, the B4B manifold pictured here had only the Holley bolt pattern. The dual bolt pattern B4B shown here came much later. These could be used for either square bolt or spread bolt carburetors. Also, no Stage 2 parts came in the trunk. They had to be ordered over the counter from any "in the know" Buick parts dept.
Gotta love Buick! They made some great looking cars that were comfortable and quick, too! A Riviera is pretty high on my list of dream cars- the hard part is deciding which one to pick!
I built a 1986 Regal with a 1970 455 out of a 1970 Electra, stock th350 and converter, Moser 9" 31 spline track loc w/2.75 gears, ran 12.83 @108mph in the 1/4!
Wow with 2.75s
Buick 455 is the ultimate torque monster
On the street of all muscle car engines
Best 455 of all bop’s in stock form
and Iam a Pontiac guy!!
Mopar 440 was the best on the street! I never lost to a 455 or any Pontiac,unless I slept on at the light and lost traction(very hard to get traction)..These were all basically stock cars,headers,carb,mufflers only mods!
@@01trsmar The std. 455, likely so. My '69 RR 440+6 lost its share of races to several Stage1's.
And, the Buick 455 was the lightest of all GM big blocks
These guys are a dying breed and a wealth of information . It's a pleasure to listen to these guy talk about engines that they know very well .
Love the Buick talk
I want them to talk about the Dynaflow
Something with the WONDERFUL : Buick 430 Wildcat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for posting this im currently working on a 1973 buick Riviera and this helped so much. I soon plan on geeting back to work restoring mt grandfathers car a 1970 Oldsmobile ralley 350 hurst shifter
I'd like to see a sbb 300 stroker using a stroked 350 crank and 6.2 Nascar take out rods that are for the 1.850" rod journal size that will give you an extra .140" stroke. Will require custom pistons.
And then top it off with a set of TA aluminum Rover heads. Out of the box intake max flow is 225 CFM, can be ported to 300.
A solid roller cam would be a great addition to that build but to take advantage of all the extra air flow, a custom intake would be a great idea.
It would end up as a 362 CID if you give it a .050" overbore. Can't wait to see this built. If you have any questions feel free to ask, I'll share everything you need to know to build the above.
I always prefilled my oil filter when installing it. Yes you do spill some oil but you get almost instant oil psi after changing the oil.
I do this to. I fill them 50/50 with oil and Lucas
Great tech session for the Buick fans! Love the 455 in my Electra
Yeah buddy!!! Gots me a '68 Wildcat 430, and two '70 Riviera 455's to dig into in the near future. Can't wait to move those projects along!
Ford FE's have their end rocker arms hangin out in the breeze. Oh yeah, and 70 lbs intake manifolds too.
and exhaust ports exposed for cooling. but those intake manifolds that duck under the valve covers are interesting--and easy to ID on sight.
Don't forget that FE's have the lightest heads.....because 1/3 of it is connected to that heavy intake....
Loose the Iron intake for aluminum and save 60 pounds
I'm not really a Buick guy but this is SUPER COOL. These days I am a Mopar guy but in high school I had a 76 ElCamino that someone shoehorned an Olds 350R into.
Come on, wouldn't you really rather have a Buick?
The Ford FE is the other rocker shaft with unsupported end rockers you were trying to think of.
Was the 352 and the y block the same ? Im a oddball fan even if its a ford 😵
@@vicmccartin the 352 is not a Y block if that's what you're asking. The Y blocks under oiled the rockers and the FEs over oiled them, however the FE is famous for snapping the end of the shaft at high rpms.
Love the genuineness between the two of you! ❤
Dallas, can you talk about what aftermarket/factory upgrades people would make to the Buicks ? What parts you could get that would make a difference. Thanks from 15 minutes away from Flint
One company so far makes part. TAPERFORMANCE. They seem to have absolutely nothing available since the pandemic. And They wont answer on facebook. There is another one that is coming out, that have crank kits. Kenny betts racing.com. But for the most part, its Ta performance out of Arizona .
Back in the day, my friends with Buicks used Kenne Bell Performance Parts
@@corndog2835 yeah. And he no longer does Buick. He just does ford, and forced induction. And his old Buick equipment asks a premium
Please BBB swap a foxbody and hurt everyones feelings
I want some of what your smoking 😂😂😂 you should be in charge of cruel and unusual punishments to child molesters
@@vicmccartin id just tie them to my frame and do a quarter mile with them dragging behind me bonus points for an unprepped road maybe stay a bit too long in the burnout box so i can cake their bodies in melting rubber
Awesome idea. I'm on board.
What I want to see next is you guys stuffing a 455 buick in my Triumph TR7. I'll provide the 455 and TR7, and even help do it.
Godspeed. That thing will be a pretzel when you tap the gas!
@@ryann3487 : yes sir They will have to install an I-beam frAmE in that thing !!!!
LoL .. !!!
Joke ing
I would love to see those trick cylinder heads for a 300. Looking forward to it.
I'd love to see a similar series of videos on the Buick Nailhead!
Great video! I would love to see some Buick Small Block content now that you have covered the legendary Buick Big Blocks. More content on Buick oiling systems would also be great such as showing us how to set up an oil pump, port a timing cover and perform other oiling system upgrades.
I have a Buick 350 factory installed in my 1969 Jeep Wagoneer and would first like to know what I should do to prolong it's life (oil system upgrades etc) and after that I'd like to hop it up a little bit. It's the factory two barrel engine but I obtained a '69 four barrel intake to install. I'm undecided on what carburetor to run, it's a street driven truck so I'm looking for good drivability, mileage, and low end to mid-range power... I've heard a lot of great things about the factory style QuadraJets but would one of those be too difficult for a me as a total carb newbie to tune?
Checkout the oldsmob455 channel on UA-cam. They go though a oiling system modification on an AMC 401. Very similiar oiling system with the pump in the front cover.
How about a multi-part series building a stage 1 455 from dirty old parts to running? It might make a good winter project. You can show all your little tricks ect. Maybe uncle Tony can put it in an Apollo and see what she can do...
Man I’d kill to see some stuff on the aluminum 215’s. I’m daydreaming of swapping a Rover 4.0 into my 2nd gen Camaro, would be killer to see what makes those gems tick!
I'm loving the Buick knowledge my uncle inherited a 70gs stage 1 4 speed all this info is awesome to see what is factory on his car and what's not 👍👌💪
Buick made good small blocks, and the big block 455. Nail Head!!
let's see him run some buick stuff to your mopar stuff uncle. do some side by side comparisons. pros and cons who did what better and who did what worse etc
I was hoping we would get to go for a ride in the Buick Suburban.
Second that, I want to know what it can pull!
The rocker arms are unsupported on the ends on FE Fords. My old boss Kip Martin raced a 352 in a '64 Galaxie in SS/OA. He built ten sets of rocker shafts and stands that did away with the through bolt setup to strengthen the shaft. It changed the flex at the end of the shaft from around .020 to about .001 when using 750 lb springs for the roller cam. Buick seems to have actually put a little thought into their exhaust manifolds for a long time. Some of the old nailheads had tri-y style manifolds.
I knew this crazy small town cop that drove a 73 LeSabre. He was in pursuit through a construction zone and came down so hard the motor mounts squashed and the pan hit the torsion bar. He came in with a rod hammering the pan.
Great detailed video Tony!!! These old big block are laying around in rusted out hulks all over America and people don’t realize the torque monster they are. They also don’t realize how easy they will bolt into a suburban or even a Camaro.
Had me at big block, i'm a caddy bb guy. But love hearing about them all. Great job guys.
I am right there with ya, I am sporting a 70 Cad 472 in a early 60's f100 myself, but love learning about the bop's too
In a future episode Can You go over what is available in the aftermarket for high performance parts for Buicks?
Hey Tony, why don't you go find us a 472/500 Caddy guy?
This!
You guys KNOW what most of us wanna see, lol. A Buick 455 stage 1 package.......put it in any old Skylark, or whatever you can afford......and let's see that baby run at the track.
I'm building a 455 for my 69 skylark
These builds are common as dirt in the GSX-tra.
Best street/race cam like stage 1 or 2, The different carbs cfm, Are the ram cars overrated, I've only see one stage 2 car different hood scoop and it look like bbc heads. Also the buick 350 is a little rocket also.
You mean the Mopar Ram Cars? they were most certainly NOT overrated. It was a platform run by the engineers at Chrysler on their own dime. They were looking for ways of making Chrysler products faster on the lot, not just at the track. They were successful in that as well.
Next if he's got one the 215 Aluminum Block. Although the Olds version with extra head bolts is likely stronger.
The 215 is basically the root of the Buick Small Block.
I HAVE ONE OF THOSE 4B4 INTAKE MANIFOLDS FOR BIG BLOCK OLDS . I BOUGHT IT YEARS AGO NEVER TRIED IT YET . I HAVE A 70 442 TO TRY IT OUT ON ONE DAY SOON . YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB . THANKS.
No "B4B" for anything other than the Buick big block.
I've got a 500 caddy in my k30 and I luv it, almost 550 tq at 2200 rpm.
It's a good feeling doing a burnout with 4:56 gears and 35 12.50's and I'm not even in the secondaries.. almost diesel like torque.
Been thinking about 3:73's because of gas prices though, it's got the torque to turn em
You guys are the real life Krass and Bernie! I enjoy watching you guys talk cars.
Drove a 67 gs400 to high school,such a sleeper.400 with the switch pitch super 400 and 3.55 gears,loved the air cleaner too kool
A friend in high school had a 70 or 71 Buick GS Stage 1 or 2 can’t recall. It had independent rear suspension, like a Corvette. Only Buick had that option, couldn’t get it on the Grand Prix, Cutlass, or Chevelle or Monte Carlo. That car was fast and rode like a dream.
You may have thought so, but no it didn't. It was not a Stage 2. There were NO independent sup. for any American car but Corvette in those days. If all was in good shape, all Buicks "rode like a dream".
All of this stuff is great. Unless you happen to live in an area like I do. Emissions control inspections as manufactured. Takes all the fun out of rebuilding, all of it.
It has been a while since I have seen anything on Big block buicks on youtube. Thanks! I have a 71 455 that is in a 225 2dr electra that has rotted rear frame rails from the salted winter roads up north. I picked up a real nice roller 79 F body camaro that I'm going to stuff the 455 in. Pretty much going to leave the 455 stock except for a refresh and a TA cam swap and edelbrock intake.
Impressed good job
I'd love to see the lightest buick big block planted midship in an xj-s. Now that could be a touring car.
A nice white gsx sitting in garage then a wicked ass burnout down the road lo
Thanks fellers,I dig it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The BOP division made some of the best engines in GM history.
Diesel torque
I know I want to build a wicked Pontiac. A 303, actually, which is a 400 with a destroked crank, and should rev to 8k.
@@ScottKenny1978 nice like the real trans am engine for the trans am series in 69 .what heads you gonna use and what is that a 326 crank or something earlier ? , use to have a 428 high compression small valve head motor in a 79 trans am
@@vicmccartin gonna have to have a billet crank made with a 2.84" stroke. That whimper you just heard was my bank account.
Found that DCI makes aluminum Ram Air V heads, so those are going on.
Problem is actually deck height. If I do it right, I will have to either cut down a 400 deck by 1.1" or use a 301 Turbo block and sleeve it for the 4.12" bore.
@@ScottKenny1978 no shit lol we all have are demons. Should be a high winding poncho what are you putting it in with what trans and compression and cam ? Sounds cool . butler heads i assume or some ram IV clones ?
Love to cover the switch pitch transmissions up to '67, which were used in Pontiacs and Olds. Auburn cone posi units. My old '69 GS400 had one which worked great.
Thank you, and yes I am curious about the timing cover and block oiling mods? I have my 70' GS455, block out to rebuild, but I put a 73' Riviera stock block in it to keep it running. Another key point is my 1970 block was drilled out for my clutch arm pivot bolt, but when I put the 73' motor in I had to drill and tap it? Great series guys👍
Damned Buick 455 oil pans...installed a 430 from a Riviera into an Electra back in the 80's, had to swap the pan because it was Riviera motor. Got motor installed and sounded like a bad rod knock. Ended up dumping the car off to a buddy who pulled the dang motor again. When he checked the rod bearings - they were all fine. Turned out that one rod bolt was hitting the fricking oil pan- he could see a little scrape mark. He pounded the pan out a bit and put her back in the car....it purred like a kitten. He flipped the car and made a grand on the deal....I was quite p.o. 'd.
One hour long (rather than an all day marathon) assembly video of any Buick engine. Then, maybe another vid on the details of the machining of the block and specs of the parts. [And... Dammit UT, I'm the guy who keeps bringing up the 273 sbm questions and NOT the troll with the same first name!] And, Dallas is my other hero now!
I'm a Buick lover, I had a 71 Wyoming highway patrol lesabor my dad's uncle gave me, his son gave me a 74 4 door I put the 430 from the 71 in the 74 just before I moved to Vegas when I was 19, was very good friends with guys that set up the 1/4 miles track, I ran the old girl several times just setting up the clock and the guys couldn't believe that old 4 door ran 12,90 in the 1/4 mile,one diehard Buick guy came over and was talking to me, he noticed the valve cover!!! Then proceeded to argue with me that it was never produced!! It had the ribs from inside to outside but in center was raised.......430 pi!!!! All I did was pull the frozen 350 out and put engine, trans,drive line and rear-end from the 71, truthfully was first swap out of all the drive train for me, I was 15 but drove car from 16 till 24, nothing could touch it street or track in my class!! All stock, cast everything, only thing I did was take the hood off, I got tired of opening it to prove all stock! I've been told that they never made A police inercepter Buick, but the valve covers had raised 430 pi that matched the rest of cover! It was a old blue and white Wyoming highway police car!!
A couple things that were left off in this video:
The Stage 1 package also came with a different distributor and a more aggressive transmission with the designation "BB" along with 3.64 gears. The Factory Stage 2 option also included a more aggressive cam, round exhaust port heads and headers to match...not just a B4B intake. Great video!
True. Only a few distributor internals were different to change the advance curve. Cam-wise, the Stage 1 exhaust was used as the Stage 2 intake lobe and a new, more aggressive exhaust lobe was used. Lift was still well under .490'.
@@LR-my2di You might be interested in my '66 GS 464" Stage 2...1 of 7 videos on my channel ua-cam.com/video/DD8vLrAMoho/v-deo.html
@@albundyrocks2115 Thanks, Al. Looks and sounds great. I've never seen it at the GS Nats. (May 17-20 '23). Do you know about that fantastic BUICK-only event?
@@LR-my2di I was there in 1984 with my GN. I live in Washington State now and it's too far to go.
@@albundyrocks2115 I understand. I went this year and it was really something else, but everyone was much older but still having a ball. It was surprisingly big and people and cars everywhere. Kudos to Rich Lasseter for keeping this event going strong after 42 years! .
I bought a 82 regal years ago it has a 68 350 4 barrel from a special in it I'm really considering putting it in my 87 regal 82 and 87 both barn finds car's same paint colors and interior
Please do a rundown of the towpig suburban
I would like to add that the Stage2 package came with the Stage2 camshaft & pushrods; Holley 850 cfm mechanical-secondary carburetor; a set of 11:1 or 12:1 forged-aluminum piston set; GM 4:78 - 10 bolt gears; edelbrock B-4B aluminum intake and finally a set of the real Mickey Thompson Super Scavenger headers that were painted Orange- prior to the release of the Stage2 cylinder heads.
You know, I know, together, Tony, we know exactly why I always say, CRUSH IT!!
Build a mild street Buick employing all the tricks you need to do to make the engine live a long life.
Staten Island in the 80's? Holy sheet, we could have smelled each other's landfills. I live on the edge of the Hackensack meadowlands in NJ along the tpk.
1967 Buick Wildcat 430 Cu In
I'd like to see how you fix the oiling issues with the big block Buick 400 or 455
They touched on it in the first buick bb video
Fun fact, I haven’t heard them mention it but the SR-71 Blackbird relied on 2 Buick 401s to start it. A special trailer with straight-piped 401s attached together thru auto transmissions with belt drives jump-started the compressors in the Pratt & Whitney engines that powered the Bird.
This was well-covered in the GSCA's "GSX-tra" magazine.
Awesome video! Now lets hear about the Buick 350 :)
I think you fellas should arrange it to take a in depth look @ the 70 Baldwin _motion gsx....
Nail heads and portholes would be a badass band name for dallas and lamchop
Hey, don't say that 7 letter word!
How about the evolution of the 3.8 Buick V6 up until the Grand National?
Had the 430 buick in my 78 firebird. Smoke 1 tire down to the steel belts in about 30 seconds
you have inspired me to rip out my 305 and rebuild a buick 350.
You 2 have fantastic energy exchange .
Very complementary to each other.
Tony gets himself reeled back in usually.
If not Dallas just observe our beloved Tony going off the deep end , he gives Tony a moment.
Then carry on !!!
Great content gentlemen 🚹 👏
These two work well together
I have a 430 Buick Electra with the 67 style nice manifolds. So you can add Electras to the list of what came with em .
I would like to see a mid to mid to late 50's Roadmaster coupe, with no posts...or a special (convertible!!!) build with a 455 CID motor and a 4/6 speed on the floor! While we are at it a tunnel ram or a blower set up, say a 8-71 with twin electronic injection, and also if you want you could twin turbo it! But again with 16 injctor electronic system! Do not forget the methanol injection system! It should all fit under the hood! Unless you want to tunnel ram it and then 871 BDS Blow it!!!
....that would be sweet! but there is more!!! ...another sweet thing would be to heat the entire body and sandwich it by a couple or so inches, like that 57 I saw a while back!!! The lights should also have the "Stewie" head effect also!
Custom interior, maybe a bench that has buckets crafted into it! for rear end you can IFS it or if you feel like doing some work craft a Nissan r3x AWD system with the 6 speed manual, Lower it all around and put some big 14 inch plus brakes with the Hyroboost setup, some 335mm tires in teh back and say 285mm in front! On custom "steelies" that make it look vintage!
You could also include the ABS rings so that you can retrofit traction control and braking amenities into it, just so that you can modernize everything! You know bring it to this century type thing!
For dash gauges, some vintage airplane white faced gauges with nice mirror polished/finished steel rings! The glass could be also be treated with some of that gorilla glass diamond coatings so that it never scratches!
So what do you say! I can come up with project names if you like! Just if you build it mention me a bit!
What about the Buick Straight 8's? :-)
Hey Uncle Tony, I need to learn more about the 225 Buick-designed, Willys/Kaiser manufactured Dauntless Jeep motor!!
how about finding an Olds enthusiast Tony?
I'm too far away from him.
Go see him..
We actually refer to it as a "center sump" because it is right in the middle (or center) of the pan.
i've been cobbling and hording Oldsmobile and Buick kajiggers up the frigsake for a few forevers. i like the W's lot but i have a hard on for 442 stuff. i guess i'll be letting it all go in a few more years
Can't get enough.... show and share anything would be appreciated 🙂
my love is the 350 sbb i would like to see any tips on building a fast street 350 motor
Let's see a build of A455 stage 1 start to finish
Let's talk about Buicks version of the "Rectangular" Tunnelport heads...
you mean the Stage Two with line-of-sight exhaust ports?
@@albertgaspar627 No
@@danieljennings7769 so what were you referring to?
@@albertgaspar627 It was an experimental head
@@danieljennings7769 i ask because i never heard of 'em...any details? Most Buick heads after the nailhead were thought to be great flowing all on their own. But i know even Olds considered a DOHC head, so a Buick tunnelport is interesting...
www.buickperformanceclub.com/455hdcompare.htm
High performance Buick that what I want to see
Buick big block is the only engine that when I hit the gas feels that torque is more than I need, I have stage 1 upgraded to some stage 2 specs. custom design heads valves and carb spacer by myself. I also did custom jets and rods on carb to have better gas mileage on city and good power when I need to leave everyone in dust.
Talk about the GS 340 stuff ,much overlooked motor they came with a glide behind them
it's a high revving motor as long as you have taken care of the oil starvation issues . It runs like a 327 but better !LOL As a a kid i drove to Kenne-Bell and picked up all my parts because they took month to deliver stuff back then 80,81 LOL Kenne Bell was Synonymous for slow turtle style shipping ! That's why i drove out and just picked up what they had in stock ! LOL This is way before they went ford stuff LOOL
Question: Could you please elaborate about the bent 455 crank. I need a video. I believe I have that issue, although it ran before I disassembled it, now it's back together and I really have to wrench on it to get the motor to spin by hand. What would be a good hi torque starter to use? Thanks
I personally never had this problem or even heard of it.
My buddy had a set of Mondello Olds heads he did for the Pikes Peak hill climb
So if I gather everything correct, these 455’s would drastically benefit from a dry sump oil system with the flow upgrades/chamfering the passages. You could perfectly regulate pressure and put zero pump load on the camshaft, and have a pretty shallow pan so it fits in anything, and being dry sump it doesn’t matter that the stock pans don’t have grate Windage trays. ??
I would love to see the necessary oiling mods that need to be done on the big blocks!
1) drill the block to 5/8”
2) high volume oil pump gears with a spacer and stock spring
3) make a cam button to prevent walking by using a brass button head bolt (drill and tap the timing cover and make sure to seal it because it goes through to the water pump area)
4) groove front cam journal (behind the bearing) to allow oil flow to cam bearing
5) install a oil gallery bypass on back of block so drivers side lifters don’t starve for oil
6) block off 67-69 head oil passage and use 1970 and up rocker shafts and pushrods
7) when building, remove all casting flash from lifter gallery
8)make sure that oil holes in bearings line up with oil feed holes in block
9)machine block and main caps for a main girdle because the Buick big block is not very strong at above 550hp
10) use aluminum intake and heads to drop fully dressed Weight to around 550lb
11) use a different engine. These were really cool motors in their day, but far better options exist nowadays. Parts for these are almost unobtainable now.
If anyone wants a few 350s with a set of rebuilt heads and a rebuild kit, let me know I’ll give it away to a good home.
@@twoeightythreez holy smokes my friend! That's quite a rundown! Thanks for the info drop!! This is why I love the car community! Lots of folks willing to help one another out!
@@twoeightythreez I also agree with point 11 on your rundown. If it weren't for my 68 GS400 being so complete I'd probably just LS it and be done. I've also got a pretty clean 69 Skylark that's just a roller that might just get the ls. Buick big block torque is so so addictive but when a guy can build two mild LS's for the price of one BBB it's kind of a no brainer.
What transmissions came in the Buicks at the time?
Th400
Can you discuss the Buick 9-3/8 rears, my Electra has one, no aftermarket parts are available.
Nope.
i'd also like to see the details of the truck swap.
Buick has 2 sets of moter mount positions so it WILL drop rite in 73 on up chevy pu , pre 73 u need to modifi the 73 mounts.
I would like to see a nail head buildup for horsepower. There are a number of nail head performance parts and Centerville auto has a recommended head porter that can flow the heads to a big block 455 CFM. They also have camshafts, valves, springs, roller rocker arms and other engine parts. Thanks, Robert Stump
Yes I do
The only buick stuff ive really ever messed with was the nailheads......odd but interesting engine....
Get uncle tony to 250k subs boys start sharing, only place on UA-cam you can win a pizza
Would like more on the 350s. I have a new, never installed 79/80 Buick 350. My high school auto shop won it at GM trouble shooting contest back then. I bought it in 89. It's still never been ran..
I wish you guys were around when we were in highschool choosing what we wanted to build. If somebody someday invents a time machine, I'm sneaking you both in front of the line.
Those later rockers were simply not getting enough oil, if the shafts themselves didn't provide oiling holes. Ideal would be to supplementally lubricate the 161s through later-type pushrods.
No kidding. So Edelbrock was casting Stage II intake manifolds for GM?
I'd like to see something on the dual-vane torque converters for the THD-400s and maybe something on header types