I'm surpised that there are people out there who attempt to climb Everest who dont have the mindset of carrying out their own waste other than poop and pee.
you pay massive fee to get permit to climb the mountain, nepalese goverment has all the money to clean the mountain themselves... also its sherpas job to maintain the mountain (dont bother replying to me, im not reading that, you're repeating what others said before you lol). Nepalese officials take bribes for issuing permits, up the fees every year & number of permits etc. they have ALL the resources, but decide to pocket money. Also nepal is very dirty because its citizens just throw trash out the window
@@trader2137it ain't only the sherpa's job. They are only responsible for the waste they generate, not that of their customers, they are already burdened with a really dangerous job as their only source of good income, the economy of Nepal is very fragile and tourism dependent, so the permits you speak of aren't really that much for the government to rely on.
Tourism generates revenue for the Govt & trash for the locals. Locals trying to responsibly dispose trash is like catching a tiger by the tail -- literally impossible.
@@tyc1Z.Z1 If the sherpa's really cared about their mountain, they'd close it down to tourists. Refuse to guide anyone up the mountain. Oh wait, can't do that, that's their livelihood! Don't complain.
@@tyc1Z.Z1Indeed I do love how this article points out how much is cost the government but fails to say how much they are earning. I doubt that it’s a net negative.
I am disgusted that people pay all that money and insult that mountain by littering and defacating all over it ! I am happy to hear something good is coming from it.
@@yuanruichen2564except they do both. I'm not surprised the same people that would leave their best friends behind to die leave their trash and s***in the same place. Really shows the "bravery" of mountaineers
I'm a Coloradoan, native and lived here my whole life. The rule is PACK IT IN, PACK IT OUT. I realize Everest is a little "taller" than our Rockies, but the rules for people who traverse the mountains remain the same. We have a duty to take care of our planet, including our majestic mountains, every continent. If you're planning, PLANNING, to leave trash and 💩 behind you don't deserve to climb that mountain. Figure it out.
you pay massive fee to get permit to climb the mountain, nepalese goverment has all the money to clean the mountain themselves... also its sherpas job to maintain the mountain
People with monney dont care about environnement... They shovel that problem to the poor to pay for.... But they will be more than please to take your greenwashing monney of ecocrap they will sell you
@@BusinessInsider That piece about the forever chemicals now being found in the water hit hard. Northern India relies on those waters to grow the massive amount of crops to feed their huge population. Expect cases of cancer to rise as time goes on...
It's been done, a lot: Since 1953, there have been 11,996 summits of Everest through January 2024, on all routes, by 6,664 different people. The waste fees should be amped up exponentially. Current "deposit" incentive of $4k for 8kgs is nothing for these expeditions and many forgo the deposit without one ounce of environmental concern.
I love how sherpas are the ones who have to clean up and are the ones who get fined financially. What a horrible scape goat. These guys do everything for these people and they have even more pressure put on them
Then don't agree to do exactly that job for that amount of pay if it's not a good deal... Saying you agree to do X job and not doing it or even being able to = you're a liar, then, and a fraud. Don't lie.
@gavinjenkins899 have seen other documentaries where the Sherpas are essentially blackmailed for payment. They depend on reputation to get their places on the expeditions and some have spoken about the pressure this puts on them in doing what the leaders ask...not just trash, but in coming back to help rescue climbers from other groups.
@gavinjenkins899 not getting jobs with the better paying expeditions, not getting bonuses. There is a long documentary specifically about Sherpa that talks about it.
I remember commenting on a smug climbing influencer post on IG regarding this waste issue. Instantly met with retaliation from all climbers saying they carry bags specifically for waste. I certainly appreciate those who do and they deserve all the praise in the world, it's just that there are overwhelming evidence that isn't happening at least in some cases
Whitney is no Everest but people don’t even carry their own waste down from there. Those who’s retaliating are probably the ones who are the problems .
Leaving no trace is not deserving of praise. It is expected the world over. The filthy twats who do not make the effort deserve an awful lot of criticism - shouldn't get another permit again. Then again, all too often they only care about Everest and the gram post.
With Everest it’s mostly rich people who buy their way to the summit with the help of sherpas doing the heavy lifting for them, I work in the outdoor industry and I do a lot of hiking, skiing, biking and climbing and anyone who doesn’t bring out their waste is an asshole. Period.
The people with the money to afford the climb. Mostly people who in their own country wld not throw trash in the open & wld even pick up the poop of their pet in public places
You have to hire a local to even do the climb so all that garbage recycling should be in the price the guide charges since they charge so much and its the locals that are just leaving the trash there they are taking the money and adding to the trash
@@thatundeadlegacy2985Ah the American hater. No it is not Americans. It's people from the entire world, Russia, China, Britain, France, Germany, etc, and yes Mexico, America and Canada.
One of my joys when travelling or on foot is leaving beautiful areas as I found them. Taking all waste with us. I don't understand the level of ignorance when people litter such spaces. Glad to see some awareness brought towards this.
It's almost satisfying on a playful, resource-hoarding way. It's immensely satisfying to put together a kit that produces very little waste, and it's equally satisfying to collect it after yourself and see a clean campsite, like hell yeah, my planning was so good, I left the place practically pristine! What joy do people get out of leaving their crap behind? One last look at the campsite, seeing your filth in there, does it make you feel good? Have fond memories? What's going on in their heads?
As a person watching Everest for long time, not even thinking about climbing :), I know that there was a concern about the trash, but the thinking was there was nothing one could do. Evidently there is and every climber now has the obligation to help out, to remove trash, when they finish the climb and going home. Thank you for doing this documentary. PS Does any these groups have donation sites, not that I can do anything. :)
@@karlwithak. Someone should educate you that fire don't burn well in high elevation. And the constant wind will easily extinguish any meager flames you manage to start. You're ignorant through and through.
I work at a landfill in America and to see the effort these folks go to keep things clean and recycled is amazing and then I see with my own eyes a truck that says recycling on its side just dump a truckload of plastic bottles in our landfill.
This is just sad... The sherpas and porters dont get paid as much as they should and now they have to deal with the trash left behind from these well off climbers..
That's part of what they get paid for. Agreeing to do a job for X amount of money and then just not doing it as agreed means you're a fraud and a liar. The clients are also frauds if they signed off that they wouldn't litter, to be clear. They're all frauds and liars, the local sherpas in these groups that add garbage AND the clients, both. (Some groups might not add garbage, so I'm not saying 100% of everyone. But every single group that does add garbage is itself composed of both clients and sherpas)
And I’d bet people not having to carry their own stuff up the mountains has played a huge role in this, cause if they had to carry all their food and stuff with them instead of she sherpas doing it then they should just bring the trash back with them. That should be the expectation but again it’s hard to do when the sherpas are the ones who bring it up in the first place, the climbers would probably not have the room in their packs to bring trash down. It’s weird how doing stuff like not carrying your own stuff up could add to some unintended consequences
@@gavinjenkins899the problem is that because they have the Sherpa guides who carry they will overpack. This doesn’t happen in backpacking or climbing in mountains in the US because there’s no one to help so people will only take what they need and nothing more.
This has to go beyond trash management and become people management. On one hand, the people who live there, need the tourist money for climbing the mountain on the other hand, If they continue to let so many climb the mountain, they will lose it.
The mountain is not very valuable to most of them if it doesn't generate revenue. Sure there's a percentage of the population who venerate it, but most are just using it as a tool to make a living (especially when you consider most of the citizens of the country don't even live near this one mountain). No living = no or little value, "wasted". So that majority wouldn't be particularly moved by your words.
@@gavinjenkins899 It's also been heavily documented that the Sherpa's don't care about the trash as much as Westerners like to think they do. There's an endless amount of documentation showing Sherpa's littering the mountain as well. Its the Nepal government that worries about the mountain, not the sherpas.
Why do you think everyone is rich. A lot of people do this for charity and get sponsorship to assist with the cost. Meanwhile if it so expensive then blame the government who set this up. You are blaming the people who are not in charge.
I met Tommy at Sagarmatha Next while on my way to EBC three months back. I got to know of their efforts and saw the art pieces at the museum. I didn't realise until then that this is such a huge problem. I also wondered why they can't make EBC and Everest region a plastic free zone just the way the entire Annapurna region already is.
The Nepalese govt. charges $11,000 per climber, and with around 900 climbers each year, that barely covers the $7.5mil that the govt. has to spend on cleanup... that tells me that the Nepalese govt. isn't very good with a calculator... they should just increase the price and that way they'll reduce the pollution
When a goverment isn’t good with calculator it’s called corruption. For whatever reason, maybe some officials have hotels, villas etc. maybe private jet accomodation. Those who climb are rich anyway, they don’t care about the amount of money spent on a once in a lifetime experience
@@BruhImAGirl Nepal needs to do away with Hindu caste system based politics...the Nepalese bureaucrats are mostly comprised of corrupt high caste Hindus and the other indigenous tribes are left aside
This is what happens, when people climb for "glory" or that instagram photo, rather than for the true joy of being in nature, and respecting its grandeur. The sad thing is, the local govt cannot easily restrict or limit access because the mountain is so strongly connected to economic growth and locals' livelihoods. Still, this is ridiculous and something should be done. The deposit they mention is one step. Here in California, there are tons of trails including the famous PCT that run through the state. If you backpack in the mountains, you are expected to pack out all trash. As for human waste, you don't have to pack out your solid waste, but you are expected to pack out the toilet paper. Our conditions, even in winter isn't such that things like toilet paper readily degrade even though technically, they can be considered "compostable". So backpackers that respect this bring back their toilet paper. It can be as simple as a heavy duty zip lock bag with some baking soda, or if you don't want to see your own used paper, put the zip lock bag in a brown bag. Often, people double bag it. In any case I still see as I hike, toilet paper floating in the wind or hanging from bushes, etc.
You're comparing backpacking to climbing Everest lmao.... Do you realise people spend months on Everest before climbing to the peak? You try carrying months worth of waste, and all of your gear on a 14 day hike back to civilization. There's a reason it costs around 50,000 to climb Everest, you have to pay a huge amount of money for the permit, it's not the climbers fault that the government aren't spending more of that money they get from the permits on cleanup
Oh i get it's different, no shit, dude. Lol -___- However, even with the money you pay, the duration of the hike, etc etc.... climbers should follow basic standard, human-logic policies such as clean up your own shit. I get the issue is not as simple as my previous comment. It's neither 100% the govt nor 100% the climbers' faults - like anything else in life it's not black and white. But climbers can do a little more to help overall. I'm criticizing climbers that don't have the most basic level of respect for nature, even in a commercialized zone such as Everest, even with the $$$$ you pay. @@Robstrap
@@karlwithak. again, 0 sense. Re-read your first comment then go to your room and study it. Then don’t come back until you understand what the topic’s issue is. Actually just don’t come back at all :D 😂
Why are you comparing a backpacking trail to climbing the tallest mountain in the world? Can you not comprehend how hard basic tasks are to do at that elevation? Like literally you can forget to breath... Not to mention the Sherpas liter the mountain as much as anyone else.
It's good to see that someone is picking up trash of others in a mountain like Everest. But it's sad to see that this litter is damaging the eco system and water sources.
The fact that this mountain is accessible to “mass tourism” in a kind of mountain tour is absolutely stupid. There should be much stricter requirements and minimum requirements for every individual who wants to climb this mountain. And for every pound of waste that you create, everyone should be charged a certain amount that is necessary for the laborious disposal or recycling in this remote area. And last but not least, you should set an upper limit of possible ascents per year - season. Which probably won't happen since this mountain is now a profitable business
They do have limits. It is not “mass” tourism. It’s like $60,000 to do It. Part of that is simply a permit to the government. Less than 7,000 people did it in 2023. Does that sound like “mass” tourism? Maybe we have different understanding of large numbers.
@@NicholasWHaley7 oh ok, it's not "mass tourism? A year has 365 days, right? how long is the season on the mountain when it is theoretically possible to climb the mountain? May to August perhaps? or September? if it's winter up there, then nobody goes anywhere! so 4-5 months a year! how many climbers are there per day then? if it's 5 months, that would be 46 people per day! did you have maths at school? that alone is impossible! there are far fewer than 7000 per year who receive a permit! And for these special circumstances, even this small number is already mass tourism!! this is not a hotel complex by the pool or a comfortable cruise ship! and how many additional helpers does each individual "climber" who wants to climb the mountain need to even have a chance of maybe making it? so triple the total number of people who have climbed this mountain on just one possible route. sometimes no wider than 2 feet! All in one of the most hostile places in the world in terms of living conditions and environmental influences up there! Read carefully what I have written again and try to use your brain
Bruh you are comparing a normal hike or picnic to the most dangerous place on earth. You go climb to the top of Everest and pickup your litter then tell me that. At those heights it hurts to breath. They need to charge more cleaning fees if this is becoming an issue
They already do cover this cost in the main price and in fines. It doesn't matter, because the Nepalese government is corrupt and officials just buy yachts and escorts and whatever with it, instead of spending it on trash as it was earmarked. Raising the fines even more = more yachts, not less garbage.
Everyone should have an audit inventory of what they come up with and required an escrow to cover a $1000 fine for every item they don't bring back down.
They ARE fined already. It doesn't work, because the government is corrupt and just pockets almost all of that money and uses it for funsies and not on trash removal. Doubling the fines = more far away yachts in the Mediterranean for government officials, not less garbage.
You obviously don't realise that clean up is included in the fee. The Nepalese Govt. Pocket the money and do not perform the clean up. Stop blaming tourists for sustaining local economy.
@@Kushert Actually that is not true. Sherpas are not stupid. They calculate the cost and the benefits and then they take the job or they don't take it. The most dangerous legal job in the US is being a logger. No one is forcing them to cut trees for a living. They do it for the money. Its safer to work at McDonalds but some people take the risk and work on oil rigs for far more money. Pay does compensate for risk. Of course it does.
They dont really have a choice.. their mostly poor and uneducated, have families to provide for, they get paid less than what they deserve ,dont you dare say their pay is negotiated, they are taken advantage of... How dare you act like these good people owe any of your western brothers anything... Sherpas are tired of doing this job, in ten years there might no one guiding your bored white brothers up that big mountain, hope no one perishes...
Speak for yourself. There are plenty of people who build incredible things and better the world, and you are the ungrateful recipient of their hard work.
I heard that this was becoming a problem years ago, and that eventually someone would have to deal with it.. I’m just mad that the average 8kg per person couldn’t be carried out and disposed of by the people generating the trash. As for holding no animosity for these people because it’s hard to climb, I understand, but also believe we have a duty to behave in a way to limits our waste, not travel to hard locations, then leave waste there because we’re incapable of cleaning it up.
This video is for those who complains like oh the permit is so expensive maybe they are charging us way more. You go. Conquer. Come back. But maintaining/providing literally everything for you costs money.
These are the same people that look down upon and preach against poor people like me telling me about the impact I have on the environment but look what they're doing
@@g_rr_tt it cost $35,000 to 45,000 to scale Mount Everest... That is a very expensive tourist trap. I'm not saying it requires skill to do it, I'm just backing my comment that these people are not like us these are the people that look down on us for our negative impact on the environment but look what they're doing.
That's the picture I see from afar anyway - a combination of modest physical fitness and an abundance of fiscal fitness seems all one needs to join the trek.@@g_rr_tt
You know what they should control ? the amount of people go there everyday. There should be a type of system where people cant just hike up the mountain whenever they want, there should be a appointment system to monitor and limit the amount of people that hikes every day.
When I went on Holiday decades ago to California it was a 1,000 dollar fine for dropping litter on the street.... When I was an extreme rockclimber decades ago it was a disgrace that rightly brought an angry reaction from other climbers if you dropped the peel off an orange on any UK mountain
They should get the hikers to come and clear the trash... no idea why mankind love to destroy nature while hiking to the summit to do absolutely nothing meaningful...
They should come up with a rail system at every base camp that can transport waste down the mountain. It would expedite the process faster and safer. Everyone wins. Mountain Climbing is a double edge sword. For locals and climbers alike.
I grew up going camping almost every summer with my dad and grandma. They always told me to make it look like you were never there. Whenever we would go on walks we would bring bags and gloves cause there was usually some trash on the trails and beaches from tourists with no class.
I appreaciate the initiative for involmvement of comunities and people into this collection mission which is great, but turning plastic into arts is not recycling is just putting a trash from environment to another environmen and change its form but usless it continues to remains.
How insane .when I was in Nepal I met alot of people who were there to climb I never thought about it to be honest I was very happy to see the mountains from the plane .the Sherpas need some cash obviously and people want to say they climbed the mountain but it's just sad to see the mess and destruction and effort and effect on locals.
I honestly don’t even think it’s that impressive to climb Everest anymore. Senior citizens can do it now. Everything is set up for you and the sherpas carry everything. Those guys are impressive. The westerners pay for a trip like hunting on a ranch with a guided tour.
I was taught from a very young age, that you bring everything down from a mountain that you brought up. There even are no trash bins in the huts in the alps. I really don't get why it should be different for these mountains ...
I suggest that aside from recycling waste it is better to oblige the tourist to plant trees as their contribution to the country by allowing them to climb the Everest mountain.
You people need to stop the drama, when you pay to climb Everest you pay for somebody to clean up after you. You don’t do the dishes when you eat at a restaurant or wash the towels when you stay at a hotel. Smh…
Me and my group recently carried a load of these bags back down from Namche to Lukla, was a great initiative and most hikers were stopping to collect bags too.
The inept government allowed decades of trash to accumulate without consequences. But now burdens new climbers with various high fees, and additional 8kg weight of trash to carry back down. If the climber cannot carry it, the responsibility falls on the Sherpa group to carry the 8kg. It's not fair. STOP blaming new climbers, no matter if wealthy or lazy. Almost ALL the trash problems and plastics pollution were created decades ago by previous climbers. NO, all the high fees are NOT enough to clean up the mountain. Not only not enough man power to carry all the trash, after repeated annual attempts, but also difficult to find, because most of it is buried by layers of dirt and snow. The decomposing trash has contaminated the rivers water supply. Everest climbing season lasts 3 months or less. In that period, junior Sherpas earn $4,000, and senior Sherpas earn $10,000 total. Good pay for that short period, but not enough for the year, or to support a family. So fewer Nepalese Sherpa choose this profession. Many Sherpa guides have died, some have retired, so in 20 yrs few or none will be left.
I'm surpised that there are people out there who attempt to climb Everest who dont have the mindset of carrying out their own waste other than poop and pee.
you pay massive fee to get permit to climb the mountain, nepalese goverment has all the money to clean the mountain themselves... also its sherpas job to maintain the mountain (dont bother replying to me, im not reading that, you're repeating what others said before you lol). Nepalese officials take bribes for issuing permits, up the fees every year & number of permits etc. they have ALL the resources, but decide to pocket money. Also nepal is very dirty because its citizens just throw trash out the window
@@trader2137it ain't only the sherpa's job. They are only responsible for the waste they generate, not that of their customers, they are already burdened with a really dangerous job as their only source of good income, the economy of Nepal is very fragile and tourism dependent, so the permits you speak of aren't really that much for the government to rely on.
@@trader2137pack it in. Pack it out.
Pooping on Everest's peak is now my dream. Most magnificent number 2 ever 🗿
This is not your ordinary school trip to Yellowstone, This is Everest everyone is worrying how to come down alive!
Entrance fee should be raised to cover clean up and employ locals. If the rich tourists don’t like it, they can go climb somebody else’s mountain…
There's already a fine for leaving trash on Everest but the rich just factor it into their budget
@@ANT-jm4qx Add jail time and the problem will disappear instantly.
@@ericresh3268 As will the tourists and the money they bring.
@@glennwatson3313 Na dude the people that climb Everest are delusional rich people. They will just pay someone to hike their garbage out.
@@glennwatson3313 Na the people that climb Everest are delusional rich idiots. They will just pay someone to hike their garbage out.
The people who climb mt Everest for fun have money - they don’t care what happens to anyone but themselves in any given moment.
Tourism generates revenue for the Govt & trash for the locals. Locals trying to responsibly dispose trash is like catching a tiger by the tail -- literally impossible.
Selfishness
its easy to catch a tiger by the tail if you use a gun just sayin@@tyc1Z.Z1
@@tyc1Z.Z1 If the sherpa's really cared about their mountain, they'd close it down to tourists. Refuse to guide anyone up the mountain. Oh wait, can't do that, that's their livelihood! Don't complain.
@@tyc1Z.Z1Indeed I do love how this article points out how much is cost the government but fails to say how much they are earning. I doubt that it’s a net negative.
Much respect for the people cleaning up garbage. I do that here locally myself as well.
I am disgusted that people pay all that money and insult that mountain by littering and defacating all over it ! I am happy to hear something good is coming from it.
I mean defecation is actually not as bad as littering
@@yuanruichen2564except they do both. I'm not surprised the same people that would leave their best friends behind to die leave their trash and s***in the same place. Really shows the "bravery" of mountaineers
I'm a Coloradoan, native and lived here my whole life. The rule is PACK IT IN, PACK IT OUT. I realize Everest is a little "taller" than our Rockies, but the rules for people who traverse the mountains remain the same. We have a duty to take care of our planet, including our majestic mountains, every continent. If you're planning, PLANNING, to leave trash and 💩 behind you don't deserve to climb that mountain. Figure it out.
That is culture
Tourists have none.
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If you can’t carry your own trash back, you aren’t fit to climb. Simple.
@@42KrewePhotography 💯
Leave only your footprint
How selfish can you be to just throw your trash around like that! Shame on anyone that does that.
you pay massive fee to get permit to climb the mountain, nepalese goverment has all the money to clean the mountain themselves... also its sherpas job to maintain the mountain
@@trader2137 It doesn't excuse people to blatantly disregard their trash anywhere, specifically on MOUNT EVEREST.
@@trader2137This ist not an excuse tho to trash the environment
People with monney dont care about environnement... They shovel that problem to the poor to pay for.... But they will be more than please to take your greenwashing monney of ecocrap they will sell you
@trader2137 so what? it's a small fine for rich people who can afford to leave trash so it's okay? Bad take
When I saw BI doing a series on Everest, I hoped they would address the trash issue. This was better than I expected.
Thanks for watching!
If it wasn't for these good people looking after Mt Everests pollution, where would the selfish rich pollute next!?
@@karlwithak. How izat dumb?! Ur comment is dumb! Lighting a fire up there can be catastrophic to the natural environment.
@@BusinessInsider That piece about the forever chemicals now being found in the water hit hard. Northern India relies on those waters to grow the massive amount of crops to feed their huge population. Expect cases of cancer to rise as time goes on...
all of the people in this video looked so sweet and happy
It's been done, a lot: Since 1953, there have been 11,996 summits of Everest through January 2024, on all routes, by 6,664 different people. The waste fees should be amped up exponentially. Current "deposit" incentive of $4k for 8kgs is nothing for these expeditions and many forgo the deposit without one ounce of environmental concern.
I love how sherpas are the ones who have to clean up and are the ones who get fined financially. What a horrible scape goat. These guys do everything for these people and they have even more pressure put on them
Unconscionable!!!!
Then don't agree to do exactly that job for that amount of pay if it's not a good deal... Saying you agree to do X job and not doing it or even being able to = you're a liar, then, and a fraud. Don't lie.
@gavinjenkins899 have seen other documentaries where the Sherpas are essentially blackmailed for payment. They depend on reputation to get their places on the expeditions and some have spoken about the pressure this puts on them in doing what the leaders ask...not just trash, but in coming back to help rescue climbers from other groups.
@@adrienneclarke3953 blackmailed with what?
@gavinjenkins899 not getting jobs with the better paying expeditions, not getting bonuses. There is a long documentary specifically about Sherpa that talks about it.
Rich people always leave out that sherpas carried all the heavy equipment and held their hands the whole way when they brag about climbing mt everest.
CORRECTION: IT IS CALLED MOUNTAIN CHOMOLUNGMA
It's called Sagarmatha @rainaflores779
So true.
That one lady was carried by the sherpas.
Well that’s how the Sherpas earn a living. What else are the Sherpas going to do for living in that frozen north ?
I remember commenting on a smug climbing influencer post on IG regarding this waste issue. Instantly met with retaliation from all climbers saying they carry bags specifically for waste. I certainly appreciate those who do and they deserve all the praise in the world, it's just that there are overwhelming evidence that isn't happening at least in some cases
Idk if they deserve praise - carrying out your waste should be the norm and an expectation.
Whitney is no Everest but people don’t even carry their own waste down from there. Those who’s retaliating are probably the ones who are the problems .
Leaving no trace is not deserving of praise. It is expected the world over. The filthy twats who do not make the effort deserve an awful lot of criticism - shouldn't get another permit again.
Then again, all too often they only care about Everest and the gram post.
Apparently MOST cases...the climbers that pack it out are very, very few and/or lying.
With Everest it’s mostly rich people who buy their way to the summit with the help of sherpas doing the heavy lifting for them, I work in the outdoor industry and I do a lot of hiking, skiing, biking and climbing and anyone who doesn’t bring out their waste is an asshole. Period.
Wow. So much for respecting the mountains.
Lucky to visit this place. What a great work Sagarmatha Next is doing❤
It's not the locals that are trashing the highest mountain in the world so let's take a guess on who the culprits are.
The people with the money to afford the climb. Mostly people who in their own country wld not throw trash in the open & wld even pick up the poop of their pet in public places
Americans
@@thatundeadlegacy2985shutcho dumbass up
You have to hire a local to even do the climb so all that garbage recycling should be in the price the guide charges since they charge so much and its the locals that are just leaving the trash there they are taking the money and adding to the trash
@@thatundeadlegacy2985Ah the American hater. No it is not Americans. It's people from the entire world, Russia, China, Britain, France, Germany, etc, and yes Mexico, America and Canada.
One of my joys when travelling or on foot is leaving beautiful areas as I found them. Taking all waste with us. I don't understand the level of ignorance when people litter such spaces. Glad to see some awareness brought towards this.
Well the climbers will say it is to hard to carry out their trash, I say if that is true then DON'T go. Pack it out or DONT go. Simple
It's almost satisfying on a playful, resource-hoarding way. It's immensely satisfying to put together a kit that produces very little waste, and it's equally satisfying to collect it after yourself and see a clean campsite, like hell yeah, my planning was so good, I left the place practically pristine! What joy do people get out of leaving their crap behind? One last look at the campsite, seeing your filth in there, does it make you feel good? Have fond memories? What's going on in their heads?
As a person watching Everest for long time, not even thinking about climbing :), I know that there was a concern about the trash, but the thinking was there was nothing one could do. Evidently there is and every climber now has the obligation to help out, to remove trash, when they finish the climb and going home. Thank you for doing this documentary. PS Does any these groups have donation sites, not that I can do anything. :)
@@karlwithak. Someone should educate you that fire don't burn well in high elevation. And the constant wind will easily extinguish any meager flames you manage to start. You're ignorant through and through.
I work at a landfill in America and to see the effort these folks go to keep things clean and recycled is amazing and then I see with my own eyes a truck that says recycling on its side just dump a truckload of plastic bottles in our landfill.
Sherpas should definitely be exempt from that $4000 fine
This is just sad... The sherpas and porters dont get paid as much as they should and now they have to deal with the trash left behind from these well off climbers..
That's part of what they get paid for. Agreeing to do a job for X amount of money and then just not doing it as agreed means you're a fraud and a liar. The clients are also frauds if they signed off that they wouldn't litter, to be clear. They're all frauds and liars, the local sherpas in these groups that add garbage AND the clients, both. (Some groups might not add garbage, so I'm not saying 100% of everyone. But every single group that does add garbage is itself composed of both clients and sherpas)
And I’d bet people not having to carry their own stuff up the mountains has played a huge role in this, cause if they had to carry all their food and stuff with them instead of she sherpas doing it then they should just bring the trash back with them. That should be the expectation but again it’s hard to do when the sherpas are the ones who bring it up in the first place, the climbers would probably not have the room in their packs to bring trash down. It’s weird how doing stuff like not carrying your own stuff up could add to some unintended consequences
If they had to carry their own stuff I’d even bet they wouldn’t take half of what they do!
Why did the sherpas agree to do a job if they were incapable of doing it fully and correctly? They are no less to blame than their clients.
@@gavinjenkins899the problem is that because they have the Sherpa guides who carry they will overpack. This doesn’t happen in backpacking or climbing in mountains in the US because there’s no one to help so people will only take what they need and nothing more.
This has to go beyond trash management and become people management.
On one hand, the people who live there, need the tourist money for climbing the mountain on the other hand, If they continue to let so many climb the mountain, they will lose it.
The other thing they don't show is how many bodies are there. Everest needs a break
The mountain is not very valuable to most of them if it doesn't generate revenue. Sure there's a percentage of the population who venerate it, but most are just using it as a tool to make a living (especially when you consider most of the citizens of the country don't even live near this one mountain). No living = no or little value, "wasted". So that majority wouldn't be particularly moved by your words.
@@travismadison6552most of the bodies have been there way before the tourist boom. Death rates on Everest are really low now
@@gavinjenkins899 It's also been heavily documented that the Sherpa's don't care about the trash as much as Westerners like to think they do. There's an endless amount of documentation showing Sherpa's littering the mountain as well. Its the Nepal government that worries about the mountain, not the sherpas.
This video really touched my heart , sending love and resperct to Everest people ❤❤
Rich people are so entitled like we need more of those. Good for these people to clean it up. Now that is heroism
Why do you think everyone is rich. A lot of people do this for charity and get sponsorship to assist with the cost. Meanwhile if it so expensive then blame the government who set this up. You are blaming the people who are not in charge.
I met Tommy at Sagarmatha Next while on my way to EBC three months back. I got to know of their efforts and saw the art pieces at the museum. I didn't realise until then that this is such a huge problem. I also wondered why they can't make EBC and Everest region a plastic free zone just the way the entire Annapurna region already is.
I mean, it’s great they’re making art and such out of the trash, but humans really do jack up this planet. Sigh
Trash is still trash. Cant see any tourist or local buying that "Art".
I mean people are trash were all trash, we literally kill each other
Parasites of this beautiful planet. us.
@@FragGoesBoom Sounds like taking out the trash.
Drill baby, drill!: Trump
The Nepalese govt. charges $11,000 per climber, and with around 900 climbers each year, that barely covers the $7.5mil that the govt. has to spend on cleanup... that tells me that the Nepalese govt. isn't very good with a calculator... they should just increase the price and that way they'll reduce the pollution
The Nepalese government must be the most incompetent and corrupt in the world
When a goverment isn’t good with calculator it’s called corruption. For whatever reason, maybe some officials have hotels, villas etc. maybe private jet accomodation. Those who climb are rich anyway, they don’t care about the amount of money spent on a once in a lifetime experience
@@BruhImAGirl Nepal needs to do away with Hindu caste system based politics...the Nepalese bureaucrats are mostly comprised of corrupt high caste Hindus and the other indigenous tribes are left aside
They are never good with calculator 😂😂 nobody likes to live here
That's why most youths are leaving.
Well, I am surprised. I thought it was like cave exploring, you take out what you bring in. Nice to see that changes have been happening.
that dude just walks around Mount Everest in flip flops :D LMAO
Challenge then: climb Everest without oxygen. Challenge today: climb Everest without polluting it.
You think back then they didn't litter? Lmao
This is what happens, when people climb for "glory" or that instagram photo, rather than for the true joy of being in nature, and respecting its grandeur. The sad thing is, the local govt cannot easily restrict or limit access because the mountain is so strongly connected to economic growth and locals' livelihoods. Still, this is ridiculous and something should be done. The deposit they mention is one step.
Here in California, there are tons of trails including the famous PCT that run through the state. If you backpack in the mountains, you are expected to pack out all trash. As for human waste, you don't have to pack out your solid waste, but you are expected to pack out the toilet paper. Our conditions, even in winter isn't such that things like toilet paper readily degrade even though technically, they can be considered "compostable".
So backpackers that respect this bring back their toilet paper. It can be as simple as a heavy duty zip lock bag with some baking soda, or if you don't want to see your own used paper, put the zip lock bag in a brown bag. Often, people double bag it. In any case I still see as I hike, toilet paper floating in the wind or hanging from bushes, etc.
You're comparing backpacking to climbing Everest lmao.... Do you realise people spend months on Everest before climbing to the peak? You try carrying months worth of waste, and all of your gear on a 14 day hike back to civilization. There's a reason it costs around 50,000 to climb Everest, you have to pay a huge amount of money for the permit, it's not the climbers fault that the government aren't spending more of that money they get from the permits on cleanup
Oh i get it's different, no shit, dude. Lol -___-
However, even with the money you pay, the duration of the hike, etc etc.... climbers should follow basic standard, human-logic policies such as clean up your own shit.
I get the issue is not as simple as my previous comment. It's neither 100% the govt nor 100% the climbers' faults - like anything else in life it's not black and white. But climbers can do a little more to help overall. I'm criticizing climbers that don't have the most basic level of respect for nature, even in a commercialized zone such as Everest, even with the $$$$ you pay. @@Robstrap
you made absolutely 0 sense kiddo. Try again. :D @@karlwithak.
@@karlwithak. again, 0 sense. Re-read your first comment then go to your room and study it. Then don’t come back until you understand what the topic’s issue is. Actually just don’t come back at all :D 😂
Why are you comparing a backpacking trail to climbing the tallest mountain in the world? Can you not comprehend how hard basic tasks are to do at that elevation? Like literally you can forget to breath... Not to mention the Sherpas liter the mountain as much as anyone else.
This is so sad to see how people litter 😢
Kudos for the recycling ♻️ Teams, of the waste!! 👏👏
"Passing the buck" has unfortunately become a way of life for so many as the litter on our highways illustrates so well.
It's good to see that someone is picking up trash of others in a mountain like Everest.
But it's sad to see that this litter is damaging the eco system and water sources.
You bring it up there, you bring it down again!
what ever happen to pack in pack out?
Rich people don't gaf
The rich have eaten the world
It’s mt Everest. It’s not that simple.
nepo babies dont care
why is that concept long proven nonsense???@@karlwithak.
Why is this woman's voice so sweet... can't stop listening to her amazing unique voice... I Genuinely, Love...it!
I think It’s an Artificial Intelligence voiceover x
Thank you so much! 🥰🤗
All those who go to Everest clearly have the income to pay many expenses. One of the should be an additional fee for cleaning their waste.
I’m planning a trip to Everest !! I will only drink Fiji water and be damned if the UA-camrs commenters will stop me! Stoked
The fact that this mountain is accessible to “mass tourism” in a kind of mountain tour is absolutely stupid. There should be much stricter requirements and minimum requirements for every individual who wants to climb this mountain. And for every pound of waste that you create, everyone should be charged a certain amount that is necessary for the laborious disposal or recycling in this remote area. And last but not least, you should set an upper limit of possible ascents per year - season. Which probably won't happen since this mountain is now a profitable business
They do have limits. It is not “mass” tourism. It’s like $60,000 to do It. Part of that is simply a permit to the government. Less than 7,000 people did it in 2023. Does that sound like “mass” tourism? Maybe we have different understanding of large numbers.
@@NicholasWHaley7 oh ok, it's not "mass tourism? A year has 365 days, right? how long is the season on the mountain when it is theoretically possible to climb the mountain? May to August perhaps? or September? if it's winter up there, then nobody goes anywhere! so 4-5 months a year! how many climbers are there per day then? if it's 5 months, that would be 46 people per day! did you have maths at school? that alone is impossible! there are far fewer than 7000 per year who receive a permit! And for these special circumstances, even this small number is already mass tourism!! this is not a hotel complex by the pool or a comfortable cruise ship!
and how many additional helpers does each individual "climber" who wants to climb the mountain need to even have a chance of maybe making it? so triple the total number of people who have climbed this mountain on just one possible route. sometimes no wider than 2 feet! All in one of the most hostile places in the world in terms of living conditions and environmental influences up there! Read carefully what I have written again and try to use your brain
I was taught; leave a place better than I found it. What is happening here that we can’t follow this simple rule?
Entitlement.
Bruh you are comparing a normal hike or picnic to the most dangerous place on earth. You go climb to the top of Everest and pickup your litter then tell me that. At those heights it hurts to breath. They need to charge more cleaning fees if this is becoming an issue
They should raise the cost to summit the mountain to cover all the costs like the garbage removal .. costs to maintain all of the base camps ..
They already do cover this cost in the main price and in fines. It doesn't matter, because the Nepalese government is corrupt and officials just buy yachts and escorts and whatever with it, instead of spending it on trash as it was earmarked. Raising the fines even more = more yachts, not less garbage.
Outstanding work done by all these wonderful people to keep Mt Everest. Who ever wants to go for Expeditions should pay for it.Bravo to these people.
My man the sherpa is wearing Sandals that also bare foot in the highest base camp oh the world 😅😅
i like how hes walking with flip flops
Everyone should have an audit inventory of what they come up with and required an escrow to cover a $1000 fine for every item they don't bring back down.
They ARE fined already. It doesn't work, because the government is corrupt and just pockets almost all of that money and uses it for funsies and not on trash removal. Doubling the fines = more far away yachts in the Mediterranean for government officials, not less garbage.
$1000 per item is nothing to rich people
100k per item then @@Adrian-lc6jq
You obviously don't realise that clean up is included in the fee. The Nepalese Govt. Pocket the money and do not perform the clean up.
Stop blaming tourists for sustaining local economy.
These people are kind enough to guide and let people traverse their mountain and this is how they're repaid.....smh
Look what they did to the united states
The Sherpas do not act as guides out of kindness. They are paid a negotiated wage.
@glennwatson3313
No one said they didn't get paid but no pay can compensate for the risk that they take.
@@Kushert Actually that is not true. Sherpas are not stupid. They calculate the cost and the benefits and then they take the job or they don't take it.
The most dangerous legal job in the US is being a logger. No one is forcing them to cut trees for a living. They do it for the money.
Its safer to work at McDonalds but some people take the risk and work on oil rigs for far more money.
Pay does compensate for risk. Of course it does.
They dont really have a choice.. their mostly poor and uneducated, have families to provide for, they get paid less than what they deserve ,dont you dare say their pay is negotiated, they are taken advantage of... How dare you act like these good people owe any of your western brothers anything... Sherpas are tired of doing this job, in ten years there might no one guiding your bored white brothers up that big mountain, hope no one perishes...
I’m sorry, I know this kind of tourism can be a profitable business… but that situation is beyond ridiculous… it’s a shame. Trashing nature is sinful.
Great to see Tomy❤❤
I believe if you are not going to remove the trash you brought up with you you should pay the local community for the retrieving of the trash.
They alreasy pay extra $10K for this. I would charge them even more. They have unlimited money.
What human touches, human destroys😢
Speak for yourself. There are plenty of people who build incredible things and better the world, and you are the ungrateful recipient of their hard work.
I heard that this was becoming a problem years ago, and that eventually someone would have to deal with it.. I’m just mad that the average 8kg per person couldn’t be carried out and disposed of by the people generating the trash.
As for holding no animosity for these people because it’s hard to climb, I understand, but also believe we have a duty to behave in a way to limits our waste, not travel to hard locations, then leave waste there because we’re incapable of cleaning it up.
Only 7.5 million? Feels like there’s a least a couple people that have summited who could put that together without too much trouble
Great article! Thanks
Disgusting! I heard people had gotten sick from drinking the polluted water...Imagine the smell.
This video is for those who complains like oh the permit is so expensive maybe they are charging us way more.
You go. Conquer. Come back.
But maintaining/providing literally everything for you costs money.
I have never seen anyone complain about the high financial cost of climbing Everest.
Finally my brother Suraj Pun Magar Base Camp Manager became celebrity with this video.Proud of him .
how do people get to everest-level mountaineering without understanding the concept of "pack it in, pack it out" 😢
These are the same people that look down upon and preach against poor people like me telling me about the impact I have on the environment but look what they're doing
Everest is a tourist trap. You can have literally 0 climbing skills and still scale Everest.
@@g_rr_tt it cost $35,000 to 45,000 to scale Mount Everest... That is a very expensive tourist trap. I'm not saying it requires skill to do it, I'm just backing my comment that these people are not like us these are the people that look down on us for our negative impact on the environment but look what they're doing.
That's the picture I see from afar anyway - a combination of modest physical fitness and an abundance of fiscal fitness seems all one needs to join the trek.@@g_rr_tt
2:21 walking on the mountains with sandals is mad crazy !!!!!
Kudos to these Guys ❤but, the government efforts need to be at place
Climber ought to pick up after themselves,they make me sick for leaving such trash.
respect
You know what they should control ? the amount of people go there everyday. There should be a type of system where people cant just hike up the mountain whenever they want, there should be a appointment system to monitor and limit the amount of people that hikes every day.
But then there would be a huge wait list and many sherpas would be left without jobs
Wow! I’m so glad something is being done! Limit climbers only experience climbers allowed and they have to bring their own waste down.
When I went on Holiday decades ago to California it was a 1,000 dollar fine for dropping litter on the street....
When I was an extreme rockclimber decades ago it was a disgrace that rightly brought an angry reaction from other climbers if you dropped the peel off an orange on any UK mountain
Leave it to humans to ruin one of the most majestic places on earth!!
Maybe it’s time to ban actually going up on the mountain
They should get the hikers to come and clear the trash... no idea why mankind love to destroy nature while hiking to the summit to do absolutely nothing meaningful...
This is disgusting how badly people disrespect the beautiful landscapes of other parts of the world. Clean up after yourself.
They should close himalayan if the visitors dirty.
Do they retrieve the dead bodies, too?
Said it costs $70k to retrieve one dead body
I've climbed Mt. Everest 10x. No easy feat but I've always clean up after myself.
Astonishing😮
All the climbers are bundled up and protected and he's walking around in flip fops :)
Imagine being privileged enough to climb one of the most beautiful mountains on earth and not trying to keep it that way.
Thank you Tommy G!
They should come up with a rail system at every base camp that can transport waste down the mountain. It would expedite the process faster and safer. Everyone wins. Mountain Climbing is a double edge sword. For locals and climbers alike.
damn i wasn't aware, this is really shocking
Documentaries covered those problems over 10 years ago. It just got worse since. It is sad and a shame!
I grew up going camping almost every summer with my dad and grandma. They always told me to make it look like you were never there. Whenever we would go on walks we would bring bags and gloves cause there was usually some trash on the trails and beaches from tourists with no class.
Thank god for foreigners. They let us real people enjoy life.
Stop people from hiking...easy peasy!! 😂
You'd think they could setup some kind of slide or zipline method of transferring waste down. Gravity would make it easier.
I appreaciate the initiative for involmvement of comunities and people into this collection mission which is great, but turning plastic into arts is not recycling is just putting a trash from environment to another environmen and change its form but usless it continues to remains.
The sherpas who do all the hard work from guides to waste collectors & those that hike it out should be the rich ones.
How insane .when I was in Nepal I met alot of people who were there to climb I never thought about it to be honest I was very happy to see the mountains from the plane .the Sherpas need some cash obviously and people want to say they climbed the mountain but it's just sad to see the mess and destruction and effort and effect on locals.
I honestly don’t even think it’s that impressive to climb Everest anymore. Senior citizens can do it now. Everything is set up for you and the sherpas carry everything. Those guys are impressive. The westerners pay for a trip like hunting on a ranch with a guided tour.
Pack it in, Pack it out was the mantra for backpackers, Not to complicated.
Packing bags into bags into bags? Wow.
I applaud the effort.
What about all the metal in the cans and canisters? That can be very valuable.
This is so upsetting. I knew garage was bad there but I had no idea there was so much, how awful
I was taught from a very young age, that you bring everything down from a mountain that you brought up. There even are no trash bins in the huts in the alps. I really don't get why it should be different for these mountains ...
LIFE CAN NOT SURVIVE WITHOUT THE ENVIRONMENT WE EVOLVED IN!! AND HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE......? IT IS DYING VERY QUICKLY!!
Leave only foot prints take only memories
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So Everest is unclimable without plastic and servants.
I suggest that aside from recycling waste it is better to oblige the tourist to plant trees as their contribution to the country by allowing them to climb the Everest mountain.
Trash….the never ending footprints of humans existence
You people need to stop the drama, when you pay to climb Everest you pay for somebody to clean up after you. You don’t do the dishes when you eat at a restaurant or wash the towels when you stay at a hotel. Smh…
The fact is, if you can take the trash up with you then you can bring it back down. Its that easy.
Me and my group recently carried a load of these bags back down from Namche to Lukla, was a great initiative and most hikers were stopping to collect bags too.
Bullroar
The inept government allowed decades of trash to accumulate without consequences. But now burdens new climbers with various high fees, and additional 8kg weight of trash to carry back down. If the climber cannot carry it, the responsibility falls on the Sherpa group to carry the 8kg. It's not fair. STOP blaming new climbers, no matter if wealthy or lazy. Almost ALL the trash problems and plastics pollution were created decades ago by previous climbers. NO, all the high fees are NOT enough to clean up the mountain. Not only not enough man power to carry all the trash, after repeated annual attempts, but also difficult to find, because most of it is buried by layers of dirt and snow. The decomposing trash has contaminated the rivers water supply. Everest climbing season lasts 3 months or less. In that period, junior Sherpas earn $4,000, and senior Sherpas earn $10,000 total. Good pay for that short period, but not enough for the year, or to support a family. So fewer Nepalese Sherpa choose this profession. Many Sherpa guides have died, some have retired, so in 20 yrs few or none will be left.