Well the intention was Green For Good and Red for bad The White was used because it fit and then i realised right after uploading it was the italian flag
i think our biggest missed opportunity as an entite aa fandom is not getting the fifth case where capcom was going to explore kristoph gavins scar and tbe relationship between the brothers
The only problem with them, is that they feel like so much potential that could be used for so much more, no get me wrong i really like them and i think their characters are perfectly fine for the ace attorney series, but we definitely need to see more sides of them/have more interactions outside of court (especially Klavier), that would make them even more connected to Apollo's character, plus flashing them out more
I just experienced the plot of AA4 for the first time last month and god, I felt this So Bad for the Gavin brothers. I was biting into my desk over all that squandered potential... it Really needed a 5th case in the middle at the very least to expand on the dynamic between Apollo and Kristoph (and Klavier?), because otherwise they all feel so awkwardly inconsecuential. I feel like I just like 50% of my fondness for the Gavin brothers is my mind coming up with 'what they could've been' vs the other 50% that is what they actually have.
My theory is that what happened in the trial broke them, just we don't see it as we're not Phoenix. "Forceful attempts to remove them by presenting evidence can cause permanent emotional and spiritual damage." And, well, just look at how he breaks.
i actually disagree with kristoph looking "rather normal/creepy". in fact, he left a character that is very professional and figured out impression me. definetely didn't expect that he was going to end up behind bars in the first class
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The most wasted concept in AA, yay Like their relationship is so underutulized it is crazy Well at least isnt as dull as apollo/kristoph one Like, you have two different perfectionists(kristoph in law and klavier in music performance), and despite that, they are so different from each other And the game doesnt explore that Looking at you, AJ and DD Despite me hating the game- this was the most interesting thing in it imo but ofc AJ is known for wasting such a good opportunities(like disbarrment,hobo phoenix,mason system and etc)
Man, imagine if there was a case before Turnabout Trump so that you could've seen Apollo and Kristoph's dynamic a bit more, and thus would've made the reveal in Turnabout Trump even harsher, making Apollo question himself if the previous trial really did go right or if forged evidence was used in that as well.
Someone mentioned that if Phoenix didn’t fall for the forgery and kept his badge during that one trial, Kristoph would’ve to murder him for getting too close to the truth and I can’t stop thinking about it.
I blame Duel Destinies and Spirit of Justice to a lesser extent. We really missed out... sigh. I'd love for AA7 to go back to them but fat chance of that happening. We'll most likely get a new prosecutor, who will end up being redundant after 1 game... I wish Capcom keeps its old characters and fleshes them out more. Miles Edgeworth was in all 3 Phoenix Wright games, and Klavier should have gotten the same treatment...
I'm sad capcom never explored deeper with the gavin brothers. I mean, Kristoph must've been an incredibly overbearing brother towards Klavier and might've constantly been wanting to keep him down. I mean, he literally was going to cheat against his younger brother in his first trial. Heck, I'd almost say AA4 is also Klavier's story. Apollo's just an afterthought at this point. Klavier's thing is that while he's competent, he's also very trusting. Alita Tiala abused his trust as a witness Daryan abused his trust as a friend And Kristopth abused his trust as a brother. I guess Apollo abused his trust of his forehead or something.
Also, gonna add that instead of getting him in the first case, what it Turnabout Trump was the second case? I feel like AA4 played it's best hand first.
I think that Klavier might have been better as an asshole prosecutor at least at the beggining. Apollo sent his brother to prison and then went to work for Phoenix Wright, a dude that for all he knows is a disgraced attorney that forges evidence. He still can be all for pursuing justice while thinking that Apollo and Phoenix are both cheaters and being antagonistic because of that. Kristoph is a great waste of a character, he makes stuff levitate when he's angry, a skull appears on his hand when he talks about murder, he even got some nice unbreakable psychelocks in a case where Phoenix broke out a secret from every other character, but honestly I don't know what could you do to use more a character that got two guilty veredicts.
You know, it was at the end of the first case in Apollo Justice when I realised all my favourite characters seem to be male, pale haired, and are (at least at some point) seen as evil/bad lol
I just realised the thumbnail looks italian
>XD ure right
WAIT IT WASNT MEANT TO BE??
Well the intention was Green For Good and Red for bad
The White was used because it fit
and then i realised right after uploading it was the italian flag
I was a little confused. I was like “arent these dudes german??🤔” great video! i love all your content
Mama Mia, that's-a SPICY fingernail polish!
3D Klavier Actually terrifies me
I've just seen him and......what happened 🤢😂 nightmare fuel
Yeah, they really did him dirty with that 😬
i think our biggest missed opportunity as an entite aa fandom is not getting the fifth case where capcom was going to explore kristoph gavins scar and tbe relationship between the brothers
absolutely and I'm still pissed
I think Dual Destinies missed out on having Kristoph hold even a slight bit of proper relevance
Fr, i feel like he should at least have a looming presence in the game or SOMETHING. I miss my little asshole... 💔💔💔
Dual Destinies missed out on so many things, tbh. It almost ruined the entire trilogy. :/
She could’ve been a true menace like Morgan fey, having another or bigger plan unravel in the succeeding game.
I love Gavin brothers, I think Kalv should have had more cases with Apollo
Blame dual destinies -_-
Bring Klavier Gavin back 💔
The only problem with them, is that they feel like so much potential that could be used for so much more, no get me wrong i really like them and i think their characters are perfectly fine for the ace attorney series, but we definitely need to see more sides of them/have more interactions outside of court (especially Klavier), that would make them even more connected to Apollo's character, plus flashing them out more
I think Klavier and Kristoph were one of the main suffers of the jump into dual destinies
Everyone suffered from the jump to dual destinies. I'm sorry, but they did everyones' characters and storylines dirty.
I will now specifically headcanon the Gavin Brothers as Italian because of the thumbnail
I just experienced the plot of AA4 for the first time last month and god, I felt this So Bad for the Gavin brothers. I was biting into my desk over all that squandered potential... it Really needed a 5th case in the middle at the very least to expand on the dynamic between Apollo and Kristoph (and Klavier?), because otherwise they all feel so awkwardly inconsecuential.
I feel like I just like 50% of my fondness for the Gavin brothers is my mind coming up with 'what they could've been' vs the other 50% that is what they actually have.
Imagine if AA7 have Athena try and break Kristoph Black locks by using the mood matrix.... Would be epic
My theory is that what happened in the trial broke them, just we don't see it as we're not Phoenix.
"Forceful attempts to remove them by presenting evidence can cause permanent emotional and spiritual damage."
And, well, just look at how he breaks.
i actually disagree with kristoph looking "rather normal/creepy". in fact, he left a character that is very professional and figured out impression me. definetely didn't expect that he was going to end up behind bars in the first class
I should had clarified, I didn’t think his appearance was creepy, I just found his smile slightly eerie
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Thank you!
I still don't get how Kristoph went Apollo's entire employment under him without mentioning he has a brother.
I Love Italy!
The most wasted concept in AA, yay
Like their relationship is so underutulized it is crazy
Well at least isnt as dull as apollo/kristoph one
Like, you have two different perfectionists(kristoph in law and klavier in music performance), and despite that, they are so different from each other
And the game doesnt explore that
Looking at you, AJ and DD
Despite me hating the game- this was the most interesting thing in it imo but ofc AJ is known for wasting such a good opportunities(like disbarrment,hobo phoenix,mason system and etc)
Man, imagine if there was a case before Turnabout Trump so that you could've seen Apollo and Kristoph's dynamic a bit more, and thus would've made the reveal in Turnabout Trump even harsher, making Apollo question himself if the previous trial really did go right or if forged evidence was used in that as well.
Someone mentioned that if Phoenix didn’t fall for the forgery and kept his badge during that one trial, Kristoph would’ve to murder him for getting too close to the truth and I can’t stop thinking about it.
I love Klaiver
I have so much to say about the Gavin brothers GOD
I blame Duel Destinies and Spirit of Justice to a lesser extent. We really missed out... sigh. I'd love for AA7 to go back to them but fat chance of that happening.
We'll most likely get a new prosecutor, who will end up being redundant after 1 game... I wish Capcom keeps its old characters and fleshes them out more. Miles Edgeworth was in all 3 Phoenix Wright games, and Klavier should have gotten the same treatment...
I'm sad capcom never explored deeper with the gavin brothers. I mean, Kristoph must've been an incredibly overbearing brother towards Klavier and might've constantly been wanting to keep him down. I mean, he literally was going to cheat against his younger brother in his first trial.
Heck, I'd almost say AA4 is also Klavier's story. Apollo's just an afterthought at this point. Klavier's thing is that while he's competent, he's also very trusting.
Alita Tiala abused his trust as a witness
Daryan abused his trust as a friend
And Kristopth abused his trust as a brother.
I guess Apollo abused his trust of his forehead or something.
Also, gonna add that instead of getting him in the first case, what it Turnabout Trump was the second case? I feel like AA4 played it's best hand first.
I think that Klavier might have been better as an asshole prosecutor at least at the beggining. Apollo sent his brother to prison and then went to work for Phoenix Wright, a dude that for all he knows is a disgraced attorney that forges evidence. He still can be all for pursuing justice while thinking that Apollo and Phoenix are both cheaters and being antagonistic because of that. Kristoph is a great waste of a character, he makes stuff levitate when he's angry, a skull appears on his hand when he talks about murder, he even got some nice unbreakable psychelocks in a case where Phoenix broke out a secret from every other character, but honestly I don't know what could you do to use more a character that got two guilty veredicts.
You know, it was at the end of the first case in Apollo Justice when I realised all my favourite characters seem to be male, pale haired, and are (at least at some point) seen as evil/bad lol
Italy
Good video aa4 is my fav
I want Kristoph