Nationalism in the 21st Century - Yuval Noah Harari at the India Today Conclave 2018
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- In the twenty-first century, humankind faces a set of unprecedented challenges, such as nuclear war, climate change and technological disruption. Are nations still capable of handling such challenges effectively? Watch Prof. Harari explore this question in detail at the India Today Conclave, in Mumbai - March 2018.
The best message for Indians from Yuval from this video is ...........
"The Purpose of a temple is to bring peace and harmony to to world, and
if a temple brings violence, then it is a broken temple.
why do you need it ? "
That is why religion is a waste of time and appeals to ignorance
Chris Greene if you know his books you would know that pretty much everything is a religion...
Everything from economics, politics and religion is storytelling, we’ve just chosen very egotistical stories to tell
@@meocean5499 Science is not a religion
@@chrisgreene2405 Yes, religion is just silliness. But I think it does 'keep people in line' by threatening them with a fate worse than death; namely, afterlives. People are ignorant fools. They believe anything that makes them feel good.
@@The22on indeed, but the same thing i.e afterlife makes people do terrible things to others. For example Isis and other the crusades.
The anchor embarrassed herself. But with her foolish questions, we got brilliant answers from Yuval!
Indeed
@aflatooon maasiDeliberate ignorance is worst than foolishness. And certainly she ain't a fool.
@@imaginaryfriend1891 are you joking? This interviewer totally ruined the event. When such events happen, you ask questions related to it.
@@Mindfulnesswithayla tyg hu
🤦♂️🤫💁 LMAO it’s funny how the ones that know nothing do the most speaking period her question was longer then the basic answer
India Today should bring a high school student as interviewer because I believe they have much better thoughts and questions
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“You should never underestimate human stupidity” - Yuval Noah Harari
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Meddling with humanity is something to abstractly see - no, the natural fact is it’s not your fault. The social engineering within these topics of meddling with humanity is harmful - the introduction said so. So to lock into intellectual recognition of engineering & meddling against humanities best interest is the global atrocity. Stand & watch & talk or stand shoulder to should for truth & integrity of humanity.
The bloke is a transhumanist who can go to hell
He’s working with the best 🤡
Yes, our stupidity to waltz happily into the godless, trans human nightmare that he enthusiastically outlines.
I haven't seen Newton speak
I haven't seen Einstein's speak
I haven't seen Gandhi or Nehru speak
But I have heard this one, such an amazing experience
He is just historian , he writes about what great things others did. Good speaker may be.
Other names that you wrote worked immensely hard and were trail blazers (exception Nehru).
@@alpeshmittal3779 if Nehru is responsible for bad things happened in India then he is also responsible for the good.
Frank Prado -I don’t believe that technology will necessarily create a useless class as alleged. Universal values must be upheld by all nations:1)Governance, science and technology, defense and security, economics, the environment exist for the benefit of all humanity, not to be manipulated by some governments or by some big corporations. For this reason it is necessary to equip the United Nations to guarantee security worldwide. And yet nations must be given the right to their culture and the practice of any religion of their choice.
Agreed.
The origin of a global identity.
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Apart from Newton, just search the other ones in UA-cam and you will find them speaking.
Cant believe that there is someone who is so not fit for the job gets to interview one of the greatest minds of our generation.
Does even half the audience appreciate the depth of the speech? It's not a cricket match.
Sabyasachi SenGupta 😂😂
Agree, more than bollywood they could have got some interesting people in the audience.
It's because of Bollywood, binary thinking, hero worshipping, type of journalism peddled by the likes of Arnab prevalent in Indian culture. Why would they even clap when he said Bible is fake news! Does that make other religions superior? May be they did not realise he applies the same yardstick to all other religions. classic example of Binary thinking. Anti intellectualism is becoming normal in India
The origin of a global identity.
www.VoteWorldParliament.org
IT'S NOT A CRICKET MATCH. 🤣🤣🤣
I think we need to salute prof Yuval for his honesty, courage and sincerity.
It is so important to teach people, students about the danger of stories and how clever people astute in human psychology can manipulate masses towards selfish , dangerous ends through stories especially nationalistic ones .
Of course the value of stories as well.
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Infront of this man anyone would feel so vulnerable and naked, he knows all, our history as well as our future. A brilliant mind, love him❤️
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Lol!! A history he concocted himself ofc he knows that "history"
00:00 Introduction
03:45 professor Harari begins speech
35:00 Speech ends, dialogue begins
1:03:30 Taking questions from the crowd
Thanks
God bless you.
It's helpful, thanks
ありがとうございます。
Thank you so much. You saved me that rube moderator's insular idiocy.
For his tremendous power of insight Mr Yuval Harari openly acknowledges his gratitude to his meditation teacher Mr SN Goenka
I think the interviewer was talking on behalf of the common listeners also.The replies are excellent. I would like to know what will Professor say on the observations of J.Krishnamurti on religion and affairs of the world.
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"One true fact doesn't mean everything is true" this statement is really thought provoking...
We ask questions difficult to answer by a human being
~Slippery slope
Just because the universe responds to natural laws does not, by extension, mean there is a god who wants you to win a soccer game
Meanwhile Religions: Let me leave the room unnoticed
read 1. How to Lie With Statistics and 2. Factfullness
The female interviewer intellectually is not on the level of Prof. Harari's. Listening to her questions embarrasses me. Yuval Harari's lecture is fabulous.
Not a lot of the people I've seen Harari with are. I saw him with Thomas Friedman, and Friedman came across as cheesy and uninspired. I'd like to see Harari debate Steven Pinker, who has both many similar and many very different views, but is kind of a jackass who needs to be taken down a peg.
Shen Laoshi definitely agree. Of course I upvoted because Dr Harari's speech was excellent. But I couldn't sit through the interview, it was far too frustrating.
valar totally agreed, pinker can be a prick sometimes.
He's full of himself and condescending towards anyone who isn't on the same page as him.
Disagree. The questions were a refreshing concoction compared to the routines of the past year's discussions involving Harari. We do not need more intellect all the time; we need questions that open the discussion and this she did well.
I think the anchor is well fitted to this program . Because her mentality is the representation of majority of indian people. May be those answers from Harari can change their perspective little.
If you think Indian people are indoctrinated then just take a look at Islamic nations, they won't even let yuval speak lol
Vipassana meditation is something you can't understand unless you have done it. Explaining it to one who has not done it is impossible.
I wonder if they could have fitted any more advertising and sponsors on the screen... So distracting! What were they thinking?
Nolan Hitchens they were thinking: MONEY GOOD. They probably needed all the advertising to fund the talk, in all seriousness.
for real.
The elephant in the room.
and that mic ffs
In India news is free & biased due to these advertisement 🇮🇳👨🏭
How humble he is when he said that his books are just the invitation or inspiration for the further researches.
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No it's sensible.
Wonderful speech from Prof. Harari! The word 'we' is still an ambiguous one!! 'We' understand but even I cannot align myself with others - 'to be or not to be, that’s the question'!! Because, the poor (by education mostly) would not trust until they get the picture!The rich may agree to help the poor but would not agree to compromise any comfort! There are few naughty ruling rich people in all countries who won't let it be an International world.
You Nailed it !
Ofcourse ours is a country which often confuses history with mythology !
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this man should be the President of the World Government
If something like "The World Government" comes into existence, it will not be chaired and directed by a human being but by a machine. Let us hope that never happens!
I wish more and more global leader aware the reality and act with wisdom and genuine kindness. Balance mix of ego and compassion.
He is a good analyst, may or may not be a good governor.
Then I will vote for Harari
Everyone needs a leader, you are the leader within yourself. Your intentions guide you. To globalise the world we need cooperative intelligence. We need one leader, we need a lot more. Everyone towards a common motive, the survival of us!
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I have watched many interviews of Harari on UA-cam. The problematic thing about them was that they were all too similar. Harari was asked the same set of questions event after event. This session however felt very fresh and engaging. I feel that the interviewer did an amazing job asking Harari new questions, adding humourous remarks and inquiring Harari further on his answers which made the experience very engaging. I loved how she conducted this event. The box shaped microphone they threw to the questionnaires was very funny, I have never seen such microphone before!
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Harari, Chomsky, Varoufakis and few others are real great thinkers in our lifetime.I absolutely recommend their books to all who want to deal with reality and not fiction.
.".....an invitation,....start questioning, stat discussions........" he is an opener for our corked thought process.
Hello, dear Yuval Noah Harari, I would like to ask your permission to translate and dub this video into Russian, as its relevance for today is huge. Thank you from the bottom of my heart!
---It's like a fashion designer were interviewing a philosopher! How funny!
Messiah Is OmniPresent ... OmniPotent ... And ... OmniScient ... Please Define ... If Necessary ... Thank You ... In Advance
Every sentence this guy speaks... I have to think about it for a minute. Each sentence is so profound, so meaningful, so enlightening, that I have barely processed one idea... and ten more ideas have come and gone.
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he has developed far higher intelligence of thinking than regular humans
That's the power of Vipassana ☸
The female interviewer was an embarrassment...her position in the India Today publication should not mean that she is a competent individual...
Product of Nepotism
She the daughter of the owner of India today, Mr. Puri....so yeah, just like bollywood and politics in India, she belongs to a powerful family.
How is her gender relevant?
Um looking forward to listening to this .
😂
Agree , someone with deep understanding of both religion n philosophy should be there questioning Mr Noah
I never sat before for 1 and half an hour listening to someone's speech with this much interest .....😮😮
The guy is just incredible 🙏🙏
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listen to kunal shah and u will sit for an entire day
First of all I would like to thanks the team for this channel.And my grant gratitude to sir Yuval Noa Harari for his immense efforts,I am optimistic that we will all value his wisdom and suggestions, thanks again to all of you.Sadar. Pranam.
Who gave wisdom to humans?.
Harari said there is no God who is protecting us but at the same time, he mentioned that human kind are becoming God's and are getting divine powers. My point is that even the atheists have an inner disposition about God but due to scientism they do not acknowledge God.
Our country is filled with intellectuals , how did we manage to put this interviewer to interview someone like Yuval....
Honestly, it's embarrassing
Yuval Noah Harrari, the prophet of the 21st century.
I never seen any interviewer with this much intellectual ken!!!
I love that microphone they throw around....every audience should have one available during question/answer period.
I wonder how many were injured. I would put money that people get hurt. probably not from the microphone, but from people suddenly reaching to grab it and hitting someone. its too freaking dangerous, but life is cheap in India.
Indians would read and appreciate Sapiens, be amazed by its author, and yet continue to believe in the Indian mythology, the invented stories and fiction, and see those as a fact and their history. I can’t begin to comprehend how that even works.
😂
Here is HOW.
1) Accept that we are all selfish.
2) Realize that cooperating is a selfish action.
3) Become aware of the priorities.
4) Start thinking about ways to solve.
5) Adapt
Humans are designed to adapt, but there will be an adjusting period. (letting go of identities etc) People who adapt quickly will help and comfort those who are resistant. The adjusting period will eventually end. Never underestimate the power of getting USED TO something. Things will change again. Repeat the process.
We have to take these steps at the individual level as well as at the organization level to make an impact.
Thank you for uploading. Yuval is indeed a store house of knowledge which is so relevant today.
AGREE.
The origin of a global identity.
www.VoteWorldParliament.org
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listening to prof Harari is always delight, questions by interviewer is dampener
can you give a minute/second marking or two where the question was bad?
@@The22on question was not so bad, but there was not a little profesonalism and respectful gesture in her what she have to. She conducts like a typical teenager of Indian Subcontinent. And She isn't so informed of Harari what a interviewer have to...
i rarely comment , but the host was a pain in the ass.
on the other hand,yuval noah harrari gave a phenomenal speech as always and handled her stupid questions very vell.
Sapiens inspired me to challenge everything we knew about being human
It was a gamechanger for me. So insightful.
@@VeronicaSywak This book would appeal to those who have no identity, No culture really: Americans. Harari is only for his own tribe you will see.
@@axelm5300 no, it appeals to many many Indians as well. I personally know friends who have read it and shared some snippets with me with a feeling of awe for the book!
Good for you brother!
A stupid book of an abrahamic x woke mindset - so many inconsistencies, mumbo jumbo and fantasies rather than professional historiography
शुरू से अंत तक नियोजित, एक एक शब्द सटीक और नपा तुला जैसे हम बचपन मे वाद विवाद प्रतियोगिता में भाग लेते थे।
बस हमारे विषय साधारण थे जबकि ये रख रहे हैं, उच्च कोटि का मानव दर्शन। 🙏🙏
Thank you all for all the clarity of humanity
great lesson for India
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I'm from Mozambique one of the poor country, I appreciate ur mind YNH❤❤❤❤🇲🇿
... and again, bravo ' Sir " Harari :: ' Unique, not Supreme! " ...
The most original interview with Pr Harari I listened. Original questions about life and himself that made him formulate the answers... not at all the same questions that answers can be easily be found in his books.
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Looks like they have collected questions from high school students.
Whenever any Indian media person open his/her mouth only stupidity come out. Such a waste of opportunity.
That's not true, there are many intellectuals media people in India. Moreover, she is a product nepotism, the only problem that blocks intelligence from surfacing.
It's such a disgrace, seriously. The issue is these people ask questions to portray a certain image rather than out of true curiosity.
True, that guy who asked about Nostradamus is a WhatsApp graduate
Ouch......we must make the effort t be kind. It does pay off. Kindness doesnt just exist, it is consciously generated.
Thank you Yuval N. Harari, thank you so much. You are talking out of my heart. We have to teach each other about what we are able to connect the simplest fact, what we are all human and what we are first of all uncompleted without another. What is the ego without its alter? What is the child without its siblings, family and peers? We tried so hard, more than centuries lastet, to find our position and a way of locating subjekts amount surrounded objects. We needed it, starved for it... But, yes it's truth, we are not made for the masses. We are not able to oversee all at one's, sometimes even parts of parts... But, we have now build up our crafts on a level where it is unreachable for the single one.... Let's unite, let's talk... Thank you and if you are ever reading this, I would be pleased to hear from you via PM... Searching for minor cosmopolitanisms I found that you are given a huge amount of it in your work... May it be shared! *
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People should take him seriously..he was bang on politician's.
I have heard so many Harari speeches. All of them are very interesting, but he is always talking about the same countries when he develops his ideas. It would be great if he included in his speeches other realities. For example, when he speaks about nationalism he doesn´t mention the problems that some European countries have, as Spain (where I live), and the political and economic charges that we have to assume related to nacionalism.
Yuval is awesome
..and woeful at the same time 🤓
The biggest problem is the huge gap between rich and poor! Poor don’t know rich people intentions and they can do whatever they want- and that’s exactly what they are doing😩
S Feratovic
Poor is a choice in western nations .
No one is poor or rich in terms of knowledge but in terms of money, it never depends on luck, struggle, acquiring, doing business and many more but how gracefully your digest it in a supportive manner to the whole humanity that show off real richness. Everything cannot buy from money, so don't tell here and create contradiction rich and poor mentality. Atlast but not least how deeply you enjoy your appearance, is the main thing. 💐🙏
Yuval, that last questions "how true is your story?", came very close the question I would have asked you that is "How is your good story different from the "good stories of others for example a politician who somehow influences the result of election by a good story that might not be true?" and "those who are now influenced now by your good story, what do they do differently compared to those who are not influenced?
If I can't observe the reality of my own breath for 10 seconds how can I hope to observe the reality of the global plotical reality system .it is really great observation.
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You got a chance to interview one of the great minds and u talk about religion, yoga, raman bridge??
Highlighted points:
1. A temple is not a temple if it divides, instead of uniting.
2. Being a Nationalist Is the road to being a Globalist.
Added points:
1. A RESPONSIBLE family member will become A responsible patriot.
2. A PATRIOT WILL BECOME A GOOD GLOBAL CITIZEN.
3. THEN FINALLY WE ALL WILL BECOME A GOOD HUMAN BEING...!!!
4.GOD IS THE GOODNESS IN YOU.
5.AND GOODNESS IS UNIQUE IN EVERY INDIVIDUAL AND EVERY SITUATION...!!!
THANK YOU PROF. HARARI for helping us to be part of building the NEW WORLD OF PEACE & UNITY.
Yuval, I can't stop listening to you, between audio books and these kinds of videos, I admire your courage to face such audiences and stay so amazingly clear and articulate. I have not yet heard even one sentence that was out of place. Yet I read some of the comments and hear some of the questions asked and how you are introduced as "someone thing must be going on on Oxford History department to produce graduates like you" of course not exact words but implications, I am reassured of what you are saying "don't underestimate human stupidity". Stay strong on your path, you have awakened millions and inspired many beyond your believe and I am grateful to have such a role model.
UG and Jiddu krishnamurti would have a lot of common ground with this guy
UG?
@@akshatsavant8351 U.G. Krishnamurti, the "other" Krishnamurti
More than 90% of the audience has no idea what this genius is talking. Most of them are extremely biased prejudiced but it must have struck some cord.
Agree. To understan his words, one needs that extra acumen.
Reading 21 lessons. Sapiens was engrossing. I like Prof. Yuval Harari's works.
Yes.
AGREE.
The origin of a global identity.
www.VoteWorldParliament.org
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It was a wonderful pleasure to listen to Professor Yuval. He is powerfully articulate, authentic and a gifted public speaker.
Dear Professor, please keep going.
May all beings be happy,be peaceful, be liberated.........
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The lady presenter is a disgrace!! How did she get chance to conduct this? Unbelievable!! India got many many wise people to come here...
She got the chance because she's the daughter of the owner of India Today group (India Today group organizes this event).
1:32:03 what a beautiful question and answer. I believed that being a jew and Israeli he would believe the story that is spread by Jews and he will cease being a human at this point unlike others but gavea wonderful humanitarian answer. Kudos. Loved it.
Incredible, brave, smart, and fair speech that I've never heard before. His understanding of this practice, around which I have been revolving for years, is incredible and that is exactly what I would have said even on the political or economic level and mass manipulation. An incredible and brilliant person! Namaste
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If you hear the political ("cultural"?) leadership say they are here to
REDEEM the PURITY of our ETERNAL Nation - Head for the Exit
- Yuval Noah Harari
he says that because he knows the nazi history. their philosophy was the thousand year reich (eternal nation), the purity was of the aryan blood, and redeem was don't worry about dying in war because you will awake in heaven.
Harari literally roasted religious and nationalist in the best way.
I've been listening to him for 30 mins till now, and nothing new i got from him.
His whole speech was against our supreme leader and nationalism, but he is true to large extent.
I wish that The UN would hear this talk.
They do. He is keynote speaker in global meetings like Davos. Checkout the UA-cam for his name.
The depth in his speech n clarity of thoughts have to be understood ...sm times we may hv to listen 2~3 times to gain d wisdom in his speech .. And the way he concluded was simply brilliant...
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What he said about teaching the history of humankind is absolutely right. Which is why global history is an important part of the community - your nation's history is just a part of it. The problem with designing history curriculums, especially in a school context, is that it can lead to information overload for the young minds pretty quickly, unless they are empowered to research information on their own with the tools at their disposal.
I have never seen someone speaking with great depth of knowledge..
The host of this talk isn't fawning over Hurari. Quite refreshing.
Noah is a professional speaker almost in all level of topics...he master of all things..thanks Noah for knowing you and join your channel.
Many thanks from Indonesia.
Children are confused as history is rewritten. The first principle is that you need to get rid of the "FEED" model and move to :"DISCOVER" model of education. Education is not as often govts. in India see it a propaganda machine at least in part.
Wow 👏👏👏
These are the words of an educated person. Bravo.
The speech was a real intellectual feast, then comes the interview...
On such deep ideas and questions about humanity more relevant questions should have been asked.
It's like I was wandering with my perspective, and I ran into you!!
The amount of power consumption for illuminating this stage is itself a great threat to the climate. We are lecturing for fixing our ecological problems just to create another new problem to emerge
Great and eye opening.
How humbly he replied to all those foolish questions like Ram Setu and including last one.
Last one was intelligent question and answer was even better than the question
@@maheshkanojiya4858 i think he is taking about 2nd last question, thanks to last question it's an awesome observation ,which can come from reading books and questions,not by just coming to event
@@AmitSingh-xb5qt seems like you are congressi
You must have enjoyed a lot during their rule.
Several more humans like Prof. Harari, and the entire world would turn into a much more better place than it is today. You're a great gift and enlightenment to all of us, Prof. Harari.
A beautiful human with a beautiful mind and heart.
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Ok, so how do I vote for this guy and why isn't he the president of the world
Because having one person rule over the whole world is a really bad idea.
AGREE.
The origin of a global identity.
www.VoteWorldParliament.org
No worries. If not him, then one JUST like him will the be World Leader. His time is not yet. In the meantime enjoy him!!!
History is not cyclical, it is ours to make.
Our world is constantly changing. History is full of the rise and fall of empires, religious and political movements, war, conquest, commerce, and new technologies. Observing this perpetual change, certain historians of the past developed a theory that history was cyclical. According to them, regardless of our ambitions to permanence, the arc of history always revolves back to the mean. It is a theory that is tinged with determinism, because its proponents argue that an individual’s actions do not matter, as much as the historical forces within which the person lives. But while the theory may make a person feel less empowered, it also gives comfort. Because if what I do doesn’t matter, neither does what anyone does. Sometimes the good will win, and sometimes the evil, but the battle will continue, forever. Nobody and nothing wins permanently.
But many historians reject the cyclical theory. Instead they argue that the world is headed in a specific direction and is taking us somewhere new. A person who views history this way tends to believe in the power of individual action. He or she has no assurance that somehow good and evil will always battle each other. Instead he realizes with terror that evil has the potential to win, permanently, and this makes him fearful for the future. But, at the same time, he realizes, that good could win, also permanently, and this makes him hopeful and motivated.
If history is taking us somewhere new, where specifically is it going? What is the ultimate end or purpose of history? The study of the answers to this question is called teleology. Teleology deals with “ultimate purpose”, and it is the intersection between a person’s theory of history, and his theology. If a person believes history has an ultimate purpose, by implication, he believes there is some consciousness designing it. Religious people call this ultimate designer God. But a person can believe there is a purpose to history, without believing in God. He can believe that human beings are the designers of the future. History, from this perspective, is the cumulative agglomeration of billions of purposeful minds, each working to bring about their own vision of the future. Each answering the question:
Where do we want to go?
Where we are in history
Whatever the purpose of history, the evidence of modernity seems to disprove the old idea that it is cyclical. In this moment in history, there exist phenomenon never before seen on earth. They are “game changers”, that preclude the possibility of us ever “cycling” back. Think about nuclear bombs, for example. If there is ever another large war, it will be the last. Because of nuclear bombs, the cycle of war and peace must come to an end. Or what about the internet? Ideas can be instantaneously communicated across boundaries, without any centralized control. When we consider that Wikipedia, UA-cam, and other online cultural repositories will remain online no matter what happens, it is hard to imagine us cycling back to another “dark age”. Or what about the global fiat currency system? Totally unprecedented. Never before have a few central bankers been able to collaborate and create unlimited currency units. It is hard to imagine that those in power will ever voluntarily relinquish their total control over money. Their very existence is tied up with people’s willingness to accept paper money. Finally, what about the existence of the UN? Never before has an institution modeled like a government existed between nations. As long as the nation state is here, it is unlikely that the UN will be disbanded. Each of these “game changers” is evidence that history is moving into something unprecedented.
Because of these and other game changers, the world has become unstable in a way it has not been before. Think of the world as a radioactive isotope. The isotope cannot remain in an unstable condition. Eventually something gives and it degrades into a more stable form. Similarly, when our world finally “degrades” what will its new form look like? To use a charged expression: What will the coming “new world order” look like? Are we entered a hell on earth, that will make us pine for the old days of conventional warfare, diseases, rituals, and tradition? Or are we entering a heaven, that will make us wonder why we waited so long? The choice is up to each of us.
I’d like to argue that when the isotope that is our world degrades, it will degrade into one of two possible forms. Either we will have a world government, or we will have a world free of any coercive state. Both would be stable. Both would be lasting. Both would initially capture the aspirations of large numbers of people. But, collectively, we can only have one or the other. Individually, each of us must choose one for which we will fight. Lines are being drawn. The side you select will pivot on how you answer one question:
Is any coercive state legitimate?
What is your answer?
This is a pivotal time
For thousands of years human society has been torn apart by the co-existence of anarchy and coercive states. People who benefit from the state hate anarchy, because it frustrates their efforts and prevents them from exercising complete control. People who do not benefit from the state hate it and view it as predatory; an organization to be avoided and circumvented whenever possible. Historically anarchy served as a final check on despotic states, because it “permitted” a stronger, more liberal sovereign to invade and overthrow the despot. At the same time, the state checked anarchy. Relatively free people, frightened by larger states, would give their consent, implicit or explicit, to the expansion or unification of their own state, one that would then grow to “snuff out” their relative freedom.
This tension has existed as long as there has been human society. But the “game changers” listed above, are bringing this age old conflict to its final denouement. The world will eventually “degrade” and either the state or anarchy will finally, and permanently “win”. Once either side “wins”, it will be very difficult to resurrect the other side. In a stateless world people would never tolerate the construction of a new state. In a world ruled by a world state, those in charge would never allow anarchy to gain a foothold.
Which world would you prefer?
Why you either support a world state, or stateless world
To repeat, the question at hand is: Is any coercive state legitimate?
If you say “yes” your position will be for the construction of a world state. That will be your “heaven”, your utopia. If your answer is “no”, then your position will be for the deconstruction of all states. That will be your “heaven”, your utopia. There is no intellectually consistent middle ground.
Libertarians might bristle at this claim. “Certainly I can be for a limited federal state, and not for a world government!” they’d argue. But such a position is not defensible. A person grants the state legitimacy for a specific reason. They want the state to accomplish a specific end. Their grant of legitimacy is necessarily linked to the accomplishment of that end. A person might argue, for example: “a state is necessary BECAUSE we need national defense.” or “a state is necessary FOR provision of courts and justice”. Whatever the justification, it is the accomplishment of the end in mind that is key. This is an important point. The FORM of the state, is a secondary consideration. Once a person has accepted a certain end to justify the state, the form of the state must logically follow that end.
Without question, the most effective way for advocates of the state to accomplish the ends they claim justify the state (and coercive taxation), is through world government. For if the state, any state, is legitimate, then the execution of its legitimate task will be frustrated by anarchy. Assume, for example, that a person claims the nation state is justified in taxing others to provide mutual defense against other states. What will that person conclude when another state overwhelms his state’s national defenses? He will have to admit that the nation state form of government is not optimal, because it will not have been successful in providing defense. If the person still believes that defense is a legitimate role for a coercive state he will necessarily conclude that only a world state can be successful at accomplishing that task. So if a person believes that the provision of defense justifies the state, his position will be to support world government, and the elimination of anarchy from the world.
Another example: assume a person believes the state is justified in redistributing wealth, to make the economy “fairer”. What will such a person think when he sees the wealthy citizens of his state using offshore tax shelters to avoid wealth confiscation? He will realize that the anarchy of the international system frustrates what he believes to be the legitimate role of the state. If he does not abandon his claim that wealth redistribution is a legitimate role for the state, he will become a proponent for a world state. “We can’t give them anywhere to run and hide!” So if a person believes redistribution of wealth justifies the state, his position will be to support world government, and the elimination of anarchy from the world.
The same could be repeated for labor laws implemented nationally, that companies avoid by regulatory arbitrage, for intellectual property “pirates”, for drug smuggling etc. WHATEVER a person thinks government should do, only a world state could effectively do it. Belief that any coercive state is legitimate is like being pregnant. You can’t do it half way. If you answer “yes” to the question, you necessarily want anarchy eliminated from the planet.
Dangers of a world state (the worst thing imaginable):
Most people assume that some form of state is legitimate. Very few people are even willing to consider our position that ALL coercive states are illegitimate. Most people reflexively answer “yes” to the question posed above. Sometimes, they will even scoff “of course we need a government!”. They consider those who challenge the existence of a coercive state to be “absurd” or “ridiculous”. Even most libertarians refuse to entertain a contrary position. This is the “fatal conceit” that will deliver all of us into the bondage of world government, if we do not begin challenging it.
The dream of a world state is dangerous precisely because it is so appealing within the false mental constructs of a person who believes the state can “do good”. The dream is beautiful. A world without war! But, as we know, a world state might end the war between states, but it will enable the amplification and intensification of the perpetual war between the state and the individual.
When a world government is first formally proposed, the advocates of world government will make promises. They will talk about protections of rights. They will talk about check and balances. They will wax poetically on the amazing “system” they have designed to ensure that their creation will never go off the rails. They will be very confident that they are playing a central role in the salvation of mankind. We must see through their deceptions, deliberate or not, and challenge them. Rest assured, that once power is centralized into a singular body, all of humankind will be enslaved. There will be no Russia for American dissident Edward Snowden to run to. There will be no Equador for Julian Assange. There will be only one refuge for those willing to resist that monolithic state: death.
When our current unstable world order begins degrades, we should be prepared for the attempt to construct a world government. Every thinking person has an obligation to do what he or she can to prevent this from happening. It would be the end of humankind as we know it.
Fortunately, we do not need to attempt to “beat something with nothing.” We have an alternate solution to the world’s problems. Our solution is informed by our correct understanding of the nature of the coercive state. Our solution is for people to organize and begin the long process of breaking states into smaller pieces. Our eventual goal will be the privatization of all property and the elimination of the coercive state entirely. Our solution will also eliminate war. For a war could not be conducted without concentrations of political power, and coercive taxation.
Conclusion:
What’s it going to be? Will you advocate for a world state or no state at all? Which side are you on? Is it ok for a person to force his values on another? Is there any justification for a coercive state? A sword of Damocles hangs above our heads. Your answer may determine the fate of our world.
Steve Rose Large population of Asia and Africa would be ready to compromise their freedom overtly if they would get living standard/benefits of an average European/American. Why shouldn't they. Men get ready to loose something to obtain something easily. Especially when it is connected to their very basic requirements or if it has captured one's mind. As a whole, freedom of expression is nowhere in the world still today. What you call an ultimate Anarchy, it could be Jungle Raj also. Systems are failing but Humans does collaborate on large scale, its their quality. These ideas are not just sheer stories, these are models, imagination woven around reality. History is not a photo but a painting. There is no binary question and no binary answer. This wave of individualism also seems pretty deceptive, Just isolation, another single unit. Best form of divide and rule. Morality isn't born out of individual. It born from conscience and approval of some promenance. Anyways a large shares seems like they don't care they just have moral compensation of guilt.
I would be thankful if you could share your views.
Ram sethu bridge? What nonsense.
Interviewer was indeed an embarrassment, very typical of us -- indians. Particularly the way she attempted to get endorsement for shallow Indian spirituality from that great thinker of modern times.
that sort of people like the dumb woman are also pretty common to see in S. Korea.
So... it's probably not uniquely Indian thing.
Shallow Indian spirituality ? How would you fake liberals understand the depth of Indian spirituality? Or understand how many western philosophical concepts and academicians were heavily influenced by Indian concepts? You obviously don’t wanna examine them because you’re nothing but a brainwashed slave to the idea of Western superiority … And the idea that anyone who respects their own culture is an idiot… keep on repeating to yourself in the fake English accent of yours… doesn’t mean it will be true.
You are born embarrassed moron , don't speak for all indians .
@@oldandwesternreviews2823 good luck with pride. Cheers man.
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1. It's indeed a "shallow" indian spirituality in that it's ridiculously shallow. It's solves none of the problem Indians faced and there's very good reason to concur that it exacerbates it
2. Fake liberals? Who tf are you define who's a true liberal and who's fake? On what basis did you do it anyways?
3. Believe in western superiority? Being sceptical of Indian dogmatism doesn't mean one believes the westerners are necessarily superior. Along similar logic, we can say that you believe in indian superiority which is comical
4. Anyone who love their culture is not an idiot. Idiotic, however, is the belief in and romanticism of irrelevant ancient cultures which india is full of.
BRILLIANT RESPONSE
As long as there is misery and poverty - there are teachers and educators to change the world .But nature finds its own way to correct itself . Nature has no problems without human beings so it be . Why worry . Some may survive and establish a new clan .
Humanism cannot solve the human disposition to egocentricity. Only faith in God can inspire other-centricity. Only this changes the principles of mankind’s thinking.
Very Engaging!❤️
Let's agree on this, that after studying in school books, campaign by government, encouragement by NGOs. We only get a superficial idea of modern problems. So many steps, especially if you belong to typical indian middle class. First ignore baseless arguments on politics. Then don't become too biased to ideology i.e left, right, social factor of cast , religion, aristocracy. Then understand India as whole nation and clarify many myths and misconceptions as much as possible. Then we merely able to think about cosmic changes, what it actually means.
Atrocity of wrongful meddling under auspices of intellectualized conquests. So smart right?
Men will never be God. The price is the end. Didn’t he mention this. Yes.
Feeling so pitied for Harari. They could've arranged a more knowledgeable moderator for the conversation.
Hats off to you Sir
Hindi Poem on History of India: ua-cam.com/video/N9e04py792c/v-deo.html
He is a sweet knife... Man nailed it..
I'm a fan Yuval! Not because I agree, but because you sell it. You make it sound so logical, and just get fashion of how you explain it, is unlike anyone else out there. Usually we get sugar coated fibs if not avoidance altogether. But you have me coming back to hear what you say. Thanks for existing
Reality as it is. Yathabhuta. Yuval you successfully put me on the path of Dhamma. Be happy.
A modern writer with a truthful imagination.
Hindi Poem on History of India: ua-cam.com/video/N9e04py792c/v-deo.html
Indians have to listen More to people like this not to some fake Baba's and gurus
Bravo Yuval!!!
AGREE.
The origin of a global identity.
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