John Brzenk on The Kings Move + Freedom Armwrestling

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  • @jujimufu
    @jujimufu 5 років тому +866

    I love these! Congrats on winning the Bottom 8!!!

    • @ryanbluebowen
      @ryanbluebowen  5 років тому +64

      Thank you brother! Had a blast. Loved the video of your perspective on the bottom 8! It was epic.

    • @ConnorRentzz
      @ConnorRentzz 5 років тому +1

      Hey Jon ;)

    • @Dave-ui6xn
      @Dave-ui6xn 5 років тому +6

      You should try against Levan. Fly out to Georgia

    • @santafeschehl
      @santafeschehl 5 років тому +29

      Most people understand the king's move. The problem is under the table Todd's elbow is off the pad or his shoulder is below the table. If they just change the shoulder rule alone it would fix the kings move completely. Armpit needs to be above the table. Then everyone would be happy.

    • @NerdFoxx
      @NerdFoxx 5 років тому +1

      @jujimufu do you have any idea where or how to find arm wrestling events? I have no clue where or how to find them. I live in SF

  • @blackshirt5530
    @blackshirt5530 5 років тому +1171

    Best moment of Todd match is when John says “Where you going buddy?”- GOAT

    • @vildjuret6591
      @vildjuret6591 5 років тому +80

      That was so good, one of the best taunts ever in any match IMO :)

    • @slicksilver9441
      @slicksilver9441 5 років тому +34

      I got so much enjoyment out of that

    • @paulden3158
      @paulden3158 5 років тому +29

      Haha yea that was an Armwrestling Golden Moment

    • @xanthromera
      @xanthromera 5 років тому +26

      Yes absolute gold.

    • @ninjaninja9954
      @ninjaninja9954 5 років тому +35

      Where'd u think? I'm going under the table

  • @michaelrasmussen5430
    @michaelrasmussen5430 5 років тому +529

    I'm 100% with brzenk the olde school armwresling is still the way to go.

    • @gabrielc6252
      @gabrielc6252 5 років тому +6

      That's actually the sport itself. There is desire now to make a show, which I think is a wrong way to go

    • @rileyneufeld7001
      @rileyneufeld7001 5 років тому +4

      Idk I'm for anything armwrestling. If it follows the rules, do it. Because then it will be alot more about strength than technique. I think something between freedom and traditional will be ideal.

    • @gabrielc6252
      @gabrielc6252 5 років тому +4

      @Erick-Emil Szelitzky There is also the perspective of becoming an Olympic event, where talking smack (or any kind of talking) to the opponent would be forbidden. In the end the idea is to compete with yourself and your limitation, like in any sport. You have no right to engage in a personal vendetta with your opponent. That's just straight up bs!

    • @gabrielc6252
      @gabrielc6252 5 років тому +5

      @Erick-Emil Szelitzky For example weight lifting. Not much money, yet many many people participate all year round. Americans seems to get the impression that any sport with "wrestling" in the name must mean entertainment. Many people believe that WWE is actual wrestling, when the actual wrestling is an Olympic sport. Yeah, imagine armwrestling from that perspective. The match would be 10% actual arm wrestling, the rest would be talking smack or dropping bombs.

    • @bigscottie3865
      @bigscottie3865 5 років тому

      Yeah I like the old way too. Think if sport can ever get to Olympics I don't imagine Kings move would be allowed. Saying that if people want to use and within rules, is ok I guess.

  • @bleedlejuice
    @bleedlejuice 5 років тому +302

    Brzenk's power is incredible.

    • @paulden3158
      @paulden3158 5 років тому +3

      Duh yea

    • @RSxMVxSN
      @RSxMVxSN 5 років тому +8

      that old man tendon strength!

    • @dazburnside7340
      @dazburnside7340 5 років тому +11

      Sam Nettleton that over 30 years of arm wrestling strength

    • @toomuch9762
      @toomuch9762 5 років тому +5

      Sam Nettleton no such thing because tendon and ligament strength does not fade that much. Especially in comparison to muscle strength. So you wanna be strong in old age?? Then strengthen your tendons and ligaments

    • @RSxMVxSN
      @RSxMVxSN 5 років тому

      too much No such thing what do you mean 😂 tendons are trainable why are you saying tendon strength doesn’t exist in old age

  • @dougbeale4847
    @dougbeale4847 5 років тому +272

    Yep totally agree with John on kings move!

    • @cl4rkj0hns0n1
      @cl4rkj0hns0n1 5 років тому +5

      Yup he hit the nail on the head when he talked about the tricep being on the pad without an elbow, elbow on the pad means one thing and one thing only to me, as far as pinning, I'd say having the side of the elbow touching is still the elbow. A tricep should never be considered in an rule about the elbow

    • @jesuschrist5417
      @jesuschrist5417 5 років тому +3

      @@cl4rkj0hns0n1 The only thing I have a problem with is straight arm position. There should be rules preventing anyone from going into straight arm position.

    • @davidlawton8396
      @davidlawton8396 3 роки тому

      When I pulled in the eighties we called It break arm

  • @The_Scouts_Code
    @The_Scouts_Code 5 років тому +360

    You can't see him, but Michael Todd is actually under this table as well...

    • @danshazam8511
      @danshazam8511 4 роки тому +2

      I dont see him had to replay this video over a dozen times

    • @killuminatisouls
      @killuminatisouls 4 роки тому +3

      😂😂😂

    • @danshazam8511
      @danshazam8511 4 роки тому +2

      @@killuminatisouls I finally saw him 😯😯😯

    • @chetchelios7614
      @chetchelios7614 4 роки тому

      @@danshazam8511 michael has never been even close to under...oh I'll shut up meow

    • @awakenedanarchism4202
      @awakenedanarchism4202 4 роки тому +2

      he's taught Devon how to hide under there too

  • @ConstantChinner
    @ConstantChinner 5 років тому +249

    WHERE YA GOIN BUDDY?

    • @TimmyTurner421
      @TimmyTurner421 5 років тому +6

      Ain't going nowhere 😁 John too strong

    • @fistoftulkas7335
      @fistoftulkas7335 5 років тому

      And Michael not fresh...

    • @sonyx4500
      @sonyx4500 5 років тому +1

      @@fistoftulkas7335 He always had Todd's number.

    • @fistoftulkas7335
      @fistoftulkas7335 5 років тому

      Brzenk wouldn't beat the Todd we're seeing in recent years, in my opinion...

    • @sonyx4500
      @sonyx4500 5 років тому +3

      @@fistoftulkas7335 bla bla bla bla

  • @Vinnytendo64
    @Vinnytendo64 5 років тому +329

    why isnt this guy a WAL judge? his explanation of the only legal way to do the kings move is accurate as hell. once the tricep rests on the pad, it is no longer a legal move. easy, simple judgement.

    • @jamesjaeger8078
      @jamesjaeger8078 5 років тому +35

      This man is the best armwrestler in the world why would he be a judge

    • @Vinnytendo64
      @Vinnytendo64 5 років тому +1

      @@jamesjaeger8078 lol idiot fanboy...

    • @shkotayd9749
      @shkotayd9749 5 років тому

      @@olderthanyoucali8512 Want to see what happens when an absolute strength monster meets technique?
      ua-cam.com/video/IkkL-bAH8H4/v-deo.html
      Like it or not, it is strength, endurance, dexterity, tactics and understanding of technique.

    • @shkotayd9749
      @shkotayd9749 5 років тому +10

      @@olderthanyoucali8512 Cyplenkov? I repeat: "Like it or not, it is strength, endurance, dexterity, tactics and understanding of technique." Cyplenkov not only is massively strong, he is an extremely skilled, veteran armwrestler. Devon even said that. Tremendously strong, highly skilled. You just proved that you were wrong again :D Thanks!

    • @jesuschrist5417
      @jesuschrist5417 5 років тому

      @@olderthanyoucali8512 Keeping the pointed elbow on the pad would eliminate the King's Move because it's very uncomfortable to perform when your pointed elbow is on the pad.

  • @DMegaTronMD
    @DMegaTronMD 5 років тому +68

    Crazy how good John still is, everything considered. Ryan has been constantly improving and had some great matches but wow, John is an eternal master.

  • @thatherton
    @thatherton 5 років тому +185

    I feel so vindicated hearing Jon say the Kings move is laughable

  • @sethdixon1450
    @sethdixon1450 5 років тому +55

    This channel should be 100k subs. Hopefully soon.

    • @TimmyTurner421
      @TimmyTurner421 5 років тому +9

      The guy does everything in his power to make the channel grow and uploads quality content and only 20k people subscribed. He deserves 100k minimum

    • @ryanbluebowen
      @ryanbluebowen  5 років тому +9

      Thank you gents. We will get there 💪💪 your support means a lot to me.

    • @sethdixon1450
      @sethdixon1450 5 років тому +1

      @@ryanbluebowen you and Devon have inspired me to pull...I'm based in Nebraska and I'm going to the state games for the 221 open right handed class..im 240...I'll smash and move forward...thank you fir the advice

    • @buffybuff992
      @buffybuff992 4 роки тому +1

      @@ryanbluebowen subbed and liked, good vids man.

  • @miked6367
    @miked6367 5 років тому +46

    John still so dam strong. Awesome videos Ryan keep them coming.

    • @Jefferson-ly5qe
      @Jefferson-ly5qe 5 років тому +2

      He's actually ridiculous. Very hard to beat even now.

  • @themoodybobby1
    @themoodybobby1 5 років тому +179

    You lucky bastard. The equivalent of getting 1 on 1 lessons in different sports with Micheal Jordan, Tom Brady, Wayne Gretzky, Babe Ruth, Micheal Phelps, Muhammad Ali.

    • @michaelselz3389
      @michaelselz3389 5 років тому

      Bobby thisssss ❤️❤️🙇🙇🙇

    • @tradewizard6192
      @tradewizard6192 5 років тому +1

      Combined

    • @destinylags6863
      @destinylags6863 5 років тому +4

      Roger Federer, usain bolt and serena Williams must be added to that list of great names!

    • @lwognrkwingbt
      @lwognrkwingbt 4 роки тому +3

      @@destinylags6863 Serena Williams, what does she have to contribute amongst these greats? Maybe give a lesson in how to whine and cry.

    • @destinylags6863
      @destinylags6863 4 роки тому +1

      @@lwognrkwingbt the fuck? You telling me she isn't great? She wouldn't give lessons? You are a fool

  • @woody816
    @woody816 5 років тому +11

    The absolute goat without a doubt

  • @johncornaro2142
    @johncornaro2142 5 років тому +35

    Ryan whenever you post a new video. it really motivates me to train hard for arm wrestling

    • @tolbster.
      @tolbster. 5 років тому +2

      jacob frye it just wants to make me do anything at a higher level

    • @johncornaro2142
      @johncornaro2142 5 років тому +2

      @@tolbster. true

  • @bullred9498
    @bullred9498 5 років тому +19

    I said the same thing when Todd beat Larratt, elbow has to stay on the pad, not the tricep

  • @mstreech
    @mstreech 3 роки тому

    You and John are great together. This is the type of video that captures your interest and makes you want to learn more about this sport.

  • @CriticArtist
    @CriticArtist 5 років тому +19

    John should make a"Where you going buddy" T shirt

  • @bigdawg8351
    @bigdawg8351 5 років тому +2

    We love you John! You was, you are and you will be the best of all time in the fights and as a character!

  • @lasiodorides
    @lasiodorides 5 років тому +34

    Pay attention! This is how gentlemen talk about a gentleman's (gentlewoman's) sport. Be a beast on the table, but a gent when you're talking about the sport. Love it!

    • @SuperDirtyPickle
      @SuperDirtyPickle 5 років тому +2

      @@SwedishBroManDude Same thing as gentleman, but referring to a woman.Confusing to you, huh?

    • @haagenneldeberg6787
      @haagenneldeberg6787 5 років тому +1

      @@SwedishBroManDude really, triggered over gentlewomen?

    • @amjan
      @amjan 4 роки тому

      Oh get the fuck out with that feminist bullshit. This is a men's sport. Just because some women do it, doesnt make it any different. They simply do sth inherently manly.

  • @arthursoto4285
    @arthursoto4285 5 років тому +1

    Always good to see Brzenk. He has fluidity with his strategy while also having stopping power and supreme wrist power

  • @aaronrus
    @aaronrus 5 років тому

    i love going back in time and watching some of these videos Ryan.. John provides great insight into the past and what works and what doesnt

  • @CriticArtist
    @CriticArtist 5 років тому +4

    John Brzenk is my number 1 favorite arm wrestler. Amazing strength even today for his age.
    At his prime he was a Baaaaad Man. 💪

  • @danporter2345
    @danporter2345 4 роки тому +4

    Greatest moment in armwrestling history: "Where you going, buddy?!" Brzenk is the GOAT

  • @LasVegasOutdoors
    @LasVegasOutdoors 4 роки тому +1

    I love how at the end of the day it’s two grown men holding hands and talking great vids 👍🏻

  • @queensidecastle
    @queensidecastle 5 років тому

    These are the best armwrestling videos on the internet. Well done on the unique and high quality content!

  • @Sychonut
    @Sychonut 5 років тому

    You got the master class treatment. It feels so good to meet one's heros in any field and learn from them. Of course there is always the danger of meeting your hero and being disappointed or let down for various reasons.

  • @sbsb4995
    @sbsb4995 4 роки тому +1

    Very Well said.

  • @TooleyPeter
    @TooleyPeter 5 років тому +17

    Hey Ryan, it's not ignorance that makes WAL fans hate the kings move. Listen to the legend standing opposite you. It's a ridiculous tactic that undermines the integrity of this great sport.

  • @We_are_the_light
    @We_are_the_light 3 роки тому

    This is a clinic with the GOAT. It's so good to see him back. Looks so relaxed, enjoying goathood. It's great to see.

  • @Untoldtruth_01
    @Untoldtruth_01 3 роки тому

    Thank you for these,I dont know what I would say to john,John, have been such a fan of his for so long ,haha

  • @Bluetooth_ez
    @Bluetooth_ez 5 років тому +4

    Line up the table with a super low flat pad that mimics the area size of the standard pads. That way, you can achieve the free flowing feel but still have the restriction of having to keep the elbow within the thin pad area? Something to trial I guess?

  • @hamstrungharry259
    @hamstrungharry259 5 років тому +5

    "Other people don't make me feel like my cups weak, but you make me feel like my cups got nothing" is the most romantic thing I've heard anyone say to another armwrestler.

  • @solarr2297
    @solarr2297 5 років тому

    Thank you! Awesome episode!

  • @MontrealTitanArms
    @MontrealTitanArms 5 років тому

    THIS CHANNEL DESERVES MORE SUBS

  • @arif6780
    @arif6780 4 роки тому

    John btezenk is very noble, cool, he never got angry, never show off, even he lose he appreciates in Very brave manner

  • @diggindiggenit6540
    @diggindiggenit6540 5 років тому +133

    The Kings Move defeats the meaning of the title Armwrestling

    • @stoneeh
      @stoneeh 5 років тому

      Idiot.

    • @kasparov937
      @kasparov937 5 років тому +7

      Agreed. It's more tug of war.

    • @jesuschrist5417
      @jesuschrist5417 5 років тому +8

      @@stoneeh With a straightened arm, and your elbow tipped over on its side, you can hold opponents stronger than you without much effort. I think Brzenk is right about keeping the pointed elbow on the pad, because when you do that it makes the King's Move really uncomfortable.

    • @naclnacl75
      @naclnacl75 5 років тому +1

      I agree with John. With the pin where it is currently, the ref is constantly trying to get both armwrestlers to square their shoulders on setup and it allows for extreme under the table king moves

  • @TheJmeech
    @TheJmeech 5 років тому +2

    First time listening to John, he’s very knowledgeable

  • @Icenflamesrush
    @Icenflamesrush 5 років тому +22

    “Where you goin buddy?”

  • @EOzols-fc5dc
    @EOzols-fc5dc 5 років тому

    The sport of armwrestling is blowing up. Love it!

  • @Rubmaster
    @Rubmaster 5 років тому +1

    This is nice. 2 awesome dudes practicing and figuring out a counter to the dark side of AW.

  • @tomgt007sugden
    @tomgt007sugden 5 років тому +94

    Amen we have the verdict on the king's move by the man him self ( laughable 👍👍). The kings move should be banned.

    • @danielvibez4000
      @danielvibez4000 5 років тому +1

      @GramCracka nah devons elbow was off at many point was just his tricep and even went below the table... it can be done rite tho agreed.

    • @majocapotulan1039
      @majocapotulan1039 5 років тому

      @GramCracka No. Denis's king's move is a great example

    • @danielvibez4000
      @danielvibez4000 5 років тому

      @GramCracka lol so hutchings was at fault? Not the guy who actually did it?? You've got to be kidding me. " Played smart" that's all he's got mate. That's the only thing he could play. If u look at the match closely his elbow was off and he was even a bit under the table. Just because u say that's all there is doesnt mean I and a couple of others didn't see something else. Thank goodness brzenk sees it as well too.

  • @jamesoflaherty7332
    @jamesoflaherty7332 5 років тому +3

    This is excellent. I can respect that some people like the kings move and some people don't. For now it's part of the game so I think this video is incredibly intelligent. Like it or not it's there so why not figure out ways around it. Ways to beat it. Spend some table time trying the kings move yourself to find its strengths and weaknesses. No move is unbeatable and the smartest guys will find ways around it instead of complaining about it.

    • @BJN87M
      @BJN87M 5 років тому +2

      if GOAT has no idea who will know? He is right kings move only if u are not sitting with a triceps on a pad..elbow ok

    • @jamesoflaherty7332
      @jamesoflaherty7332 5 років тому

      @@BJN87M the goat beat Michael Todd and his kings move. So he did figure it out. And there may be other ways. What I'm saying is it's better to practice and prepare for it if you know you're going to face it even if you don't like it... than to complain about it.

    • @jamesoflaherty7332
      @jamesoflaherty7332 5 років тому

      @@Charlesbjtown I don't follow your logic at all. The king's move is a LEGAL move. The things you're talking about are ILLEGAL 😂😂😂 lol.

    • @jamesoflaherty7332
      @jamesoflaherty7332 5 років тому

      @@Charlesbjtown and several of the greatest in the world like it including Devon larratt. Opinions are going to vary and if it becomes illegal then people can complain all they want but until then learn to beat it or suck it up

  • @terriblewillen1092
    @terriblewillen1092 5 років тому

    I would like to request a basic strategyguide. Attacks vs counters. From the start in handsetup to the attack to how to counter that attack, where to put fingerpressure, elbowplacement and such. Thx in advance. Love this channels content

  • @chrinarai
    @chrinarai 4 роки тому

    Ahh John the GOAT! So lucky to get to meet him and train man

  • @fivedaysfitter5225
    @fivedaysfitter5225 5 років тому +1

    That was really interesting dude. Great time for this video.... Because that move....

  • @vasilisvasiliadis3256
    @vasilisvasiliadis3256 5 років тому

    I am from Greece and to me John is the goat not because of his great strength only.John got style.He is a down to earth honest guy,polite, serious ,no show off, no mind games just an old fashioned American guy who gets the job done.

  • @Thelgren00
    @Thelgren00 5 років тому +1

    Top tier content as always, thank you. I have a bit of a commute to work and often i listen to podcasts on route. Had an idea i thought i might share. Since you meet on a personal level with so many greats in the sport, any chance you might do an off the record type recording for P4P podcast? It wouldnt need any video footage, maybe just a recording of your thoughts on time with the greats and your interesting experiences. I have a feeling you have alot of great stories from your time with everyone and i'd love to hear them on the drive to work haha.

  • @Silks
    @Silks 5 років тому +6

    Exactly on the point of the elbow rising above the pad. That's my only issue with it. Keep it down and it's legal. The tricep should not be allowed to become the fulcrum point

  • @paulwakefield5255
    @paulwakefield5255 4 роки тому

    Why is watching arm wrestling so fascinating. I’m new to it and I can’t get enough

  • @shable1436
    @shable1436 5 років тому +2

    This vid just got even more relevant blue, especially after most top guys are doing it now

  • @texasbuzzard4970
    @texasbuzzard4970 5 років тому +35

    Kings move depends 100% on the ref. It could be a part of the sport if the ref enforces the correct rules (elbow on pad, shoulder above table). The way Todd did Kings move against Devon was 100% cheating and doesn’t require any strength. You have Todd too much credit in this video, he’s weak when he’s not cheating

    • @jesuschrist5417
      @jesuschrist5417 5 років тому +5

      Yes, what I dislike about the King's Move is having a straight arm. How's your opponent supposed to move beyond that?

    • @Miiiiiiighty
      @Miiiiiiighty 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah it's just bone locking at this point

  • @bengray8319
    @bengray8319 5 років тому +39

    20:20 "They changed the rules 20 times over the past 15, 20 years..." and I still managed to win all of them regardless. Expected John to say that ahaha

  • @TravisJones1979
    @TravisJones1979 5 років тому

    What is up my man Ryan how you been brother we've talked a few times IMVU man you rock John brzenk don't see himself as a celebrity but he is to me and I would absolutely die to be in your position arm wrestling a legend a humble man like John brzenk you too sir are greatly appreciated appreciate it

  • @saiyanspirit8199
    @saiyanspirit8199 5 років тому +74

    King move is disgrace to sport who struggles to get more people in it because of constant pains and injury's any way.

    • @mikea5205
      @mikea5205 5 років тому +4

      SaiyanSpirit - it should be called Desperation Move not Kings Move.....people who are about to lose use it out of desperation. Quite simply it’s pathetic. Take the loss like a man and don’t disgrace the sport.

  • @WakeSideLife
    @WakeSideLife 5 років тому +11

    Why not push their elbow off the pad? Force a foul like in freestyle?

  • @made4snipinator
    @made4snipinator 5 років тому

    The GOAT!!! Love the content man keep up the good work!

  • @TheperfectstormV
    @TheperfectstormV 5 років тому +1

    When Ryan added how people say dropping your body is "cheating" that was a great argument. I never looked at it that way even though I am not against the kings move in the first place.

  • @michealwhite1804
    @michealwhite1804 5 років тому +1

    yup pretty much agree with John here

  • @erikb2917
    @erikb2917 5 років тому +193

    who's here after watching devon laratt vs dave chafee

    • @patmastrangelo7248
      @patmastrangelo7248 5 років тому +23

      I am, totally agree with John.
      Couldn’t handle watching Devon and Dave.
      I guess you have to do what you have to do.

    • @Tri_monster
      @Tri_monster 5 років тому +15

      Me, imo the match just proved John right

    • @golgoth7600
      @golgoth7600 5 років тому +19

      The GOAT said it. It's laughable and ridiculous and I agree. Now that Devon won against Chaffee, all he does is defending the move and try to convince us how it's so great. I was a fan but not so much anymore.

    • @fg-yp7rz
      @fg-yp7rz 5 років тому +32

      @@golgoth7600 Devon has always defended the kings move. Nothing has changed

    • @golgoth7600
      @golgoth7600 5 років тому +5

      @@fg-yp7rz True but he wasn't as adamant as right now.

  • @deadseamonster
    @deadseamonster 5 років тому +3

    I like John's idea of moving the peg across the table.

  • @notyourenemy7633
    @notyourenemy7633 5 років тому +2

    Such good content Ryan! John is sooo good though!

  • @iamme7681
    @iamme7681 5 років тому +1

    I think often the point of the elbow goes just behind the pad which allows the kings move player to use the pad/table to brace them. I have seen this many times and often the refs do not see the kings move using the pad to brace the arm.

  • @2RanDumb
    @2RanDumb 4 роки тому

    every time I say it or hear it it feels like it's not enough will John ever really get the credit for how amazing he was and still is? the best american athlete of my lifetime!! your on MT Rushmore with Mike and Tiger

  • @chiztrix
    @chiztrix 5 років тому +1

    The video Devon made about the the Japanese sumo arm wrestling when he was there, was the most insane and awesome thing I've seen in the sport.

  • @teodormrdenovic1981
    @teodormrdenovic1981 5 років тому +17

    John must not be happy to see the Devon vs Dave match then...

  • @onthe1481
    @onthe1481 5 років тому

    One of you're best videos to date... Seems like you're getting a little bit more Serious, I like it that was a great video

  • @bradleyrobinson7552
    @bradleyrobinson7552 5 років тому

    Excellent discussion.

  • @Undeadly.
    @Undeadly. 5 років тому +4

    Speaking of Travis, I hope that fool has a smooth recovery. His loudness is missed!

    • @reludennis
      @reludennis 5 років тому +2

      I miss Travis and the show he makes...but did not like how he spoke to John the last time they met. Little more respect would be better...

  • @BlazinPhoenix82
    @BlazinPhoenix82 4 роки тому

    The grips across the table agreed very good idea and add some padding for the elbows with raised cushioned edges to encourage staying within the boundaries and that could be a real game changer

  • @paulden3158
    @paulden3158 5 років тому +15

    I wanna see a rematch with Devon and Michael doing the double kings move.

    • @elijahrobinson2362
      @elijahrobinson2362 5 років тому +5

      Paul Denet Todd is already worried because now Devon can do it as well, and he has way more stamina.

  • @shkotayd9749
    @shkotayd9749 5 років тому

    In his early 60s and he still looks like he could easily compete around the upper end of the worlds best, even now. Not the top guys in their primes. But he would clean out just about everyone else. Brzenk is a freak of nature, and agree with him 100% here.
    Great video!

  • @maxxxmodelz4061
    @maxxxmodelz4061 4 роки тому

    Ryan is correct here. This was the best discussion of the Kings Move in all of arm wrestling so far. Ryan makes the point that some uneducated spectators can't believe that competitors can use body weight, or that they can hook their leg around the table leg for leverage. All that stuff was unheard of in the early days of "wrist wrestling", where two competitors were seated at the table.

  • @Rayzor714
    @Rayzor714 5 років тому

    Great stuff guys, Thanks

  • @richardbrown9138
    @richardbrown9138 5 років тому +1

    My workout in the early 1980s was just two sets of curls for 12 reps with a 100 - pound dumbbell, with the dumbbell duck taped around about 8 to 10 inches thick in the middle of the dumbbell I would also practice with my friends at my house or at their house.

  • @redthedragon88
    @redthedragon88 5 років тому +1

    I love John's opinion on the kings move. He's a funny guy and damn does he still got the power

  • @idonenothingwrong
    @idonenothingwrong 3 роки тому

    The pointy part of the elbow remaining on the pad in a defensive position is so true

  • @janczes10
    @janczes10 5 років тому +3

    Who's there after Devon pulled that shit again

  • @WSGtr12
    @WSGtr12 5 років тому +5

    When someone comes up with the best way to counter The Kings Move it needs to be called The Kingslayer.

  • @violent_bebop9687
    @violent_bebop9687 4 роки тому +1

    We are not misreading it. It's a god damn ELBOW FOUL.

  • @Pondjumper1
    @Pondjumper1 3 роки тому

    I didn’t realise that the WAL pad being at the edge of the table allows the kings move. John makes valid point about the point of the elbow vs the inside of the tricep/bicep. They need to limit how low you can go...pecs above level of table or put a seat behind opponents and definitely the point of elbow on pad. Listen to the GOAT

  • @hanzykrupps259
    @hanzykrupps259 5 років тому +4

    "Like a couple idiots" I'M DEAD!! 😂

  • @Mallakai
    @Mallakai 4 роки тому +5

    Michael "where you going buddy" Todd

  • @theshobalt2029
    @theshobalt2029 5 років тому

    6:47 John is just so so so smart on the table. He knew you’d have trouble pinning him in the kings move when you had the higher hand position

  • @derekanderson9549
    @derekanderson9549 4 роки тому

    Damn Tom still going at it! God Bless

  • @breech123
    @breech123 4 роки тому

    Great video guys.

  • @7shocker
    @7shocker 5 років тому +1

    Legend. Period.

  • @bettafish6404
    @bettafish6404 5 років тому +118

    I understand the Kingsmove. IT IS STILL IDIOTIC.

    • @stoneeh
      @stoneeh 5 років тому +2

      I understand the Kings' move. It is within the rule book, and probably your favorite fighter got beaten with it.

    • @bettafish6404
      @bettafish6404 5 років тому +15

      I have no favorite fighter. I just don't like watching it like Mr. Brzenk. Just because it is in the rules does not make it COOL to watch. It is like watching two tennis players doing underspin all the time against each other. Or two boxers just bobbing and weaving and waiting to counterpunch each other. BORING.

    • @jesuschrist5417
      @jesuschrist5417 5 років тому +1

      @@stoneeh I think if there was a rule about keeping the pointed elbow on the pad, it would make the King's Move unbearably painful.

    • @jesuschrist5417
      @jesuschrist5417 5 років тому +1

      @@bettafish6404 What I don't like is straight arm position.

    • @stoneeh
      @stoneeh 5 років тому

      Jesus Chirst Funny. Last interview I saw Michael was surprised when Bart said you just have to have any part of the elbow on the pad. He thought you'd have to keep the tip of the elbow on the pad, and that's what he always did.

  • @ericlummus7856
    @ericlummus7856 5 років тому

    Talking to John you’d never guess that he is an arm wrestling icon. Humble guy. I wish I would have been around to watch him in his “hay day”.

  • @pwfavox
    @pwfavox 5 років тому

    I sincerely Love You Both. I Wish you Both could Come to SW Missouri to Lamar to my home and we could do an interview and some of my Arrmwrestling training skills on my Armwrestling machine

  • @Predat0rs1
    @Predat0rs1 5 років тому +4

    And back here again after the devon vs dave match :)

  • @sterlingwilkey2124
    @sterlingwilkey2124 5 років тому +5

    Hell i wish i had 1/32 of the knowledge of pulling that John has

  • @slicksouthpaw4962
    @slicksouthpaw4962 5 років тому +2

    Ryan: How does it feel to touch greatness?

  • @artattackjack9120
    @artattackjack9120 5 років тому +1

    The biggest problem with the kings move is that you beat the arm by hyperextended it . But due to the pads it's not a pin. To get the pin now you have to work against the body.

  • @sethgilbertson2474
    @sethgilbertson2474 5 років тому +5

    I know blue is strong so to see Brzenk just effortlessly put him down...
    Damn...

  • @malicbergevin1022
    @malicbergevin1022 4 роки тому

    Good Honest conversation.

  • @jaydee2620
    @jaydee2620 5 років тому +1

    How is John intimidating me through this video?? I feel my elbow hurting just watching this

  • @mundrubjet
    @mundrubjet 5 років тому +2

    The hell is that black dot in the sky in front of Johns face?? Thought it was my monitor...but it goes away when John moves in front of it... Lol... Conspiracy theory!!

    • @cl4rkj0hns0n1
      @cl4rkj0hns0n1 5 років тому

      Haha I was trying to wipe it off my screen 😂 glad I found your comment

    • @k.c.lejeune6613
      @k.c.lejeune6613 5 років тому

      Think it's the top of a tower, like a transmission tower or cellphone tower in the background.

    • @TarzanHedgepeth
      @TarzanHedgepeth 5 років тому

      Might be a speck on the camera sensor.

  • @salottin
    @salottin 4 роки тому

    The way John just plays with this while Ryan holds on to dear life is funny and yet cool to see because it's just friendly fun xD

  • @VolksDragon
    @VolksDragon 5 років тому +2

    Shout out for Norm Devio, gym teacher at my high school in the 1980s!

    • @dazburnside7340
      @dazburnside7340 5 років тому

      Random

    • @VolksDragon
      @VolksDragon 5 років тому +1

      Nah, they mentioned him by name when discussing older guys who are still pulling!