Came for felt knowledge and conparison and left with the lifetime question of how to say worcestershire sauce answered too! Love this channel and the host! Great job 👏🏻
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I've purchased both felt and worsted cloth of a variety of weights. The felt cloth tends to pill and shed, requiring constant brushing to remove the pilling. It is also much slower and is subject to ball burns anywhere you frequently strike balls hard with some spin. This is simply the result of friction from the spinning ball. I decided to go with worsted after one of my felt cloths faded badly due to sunlight shining on it grough a window. I was tired of the pilling and scorch marks and decided to buy a good worsted but couldn't justify the cost of the top brand.I went with a well known also ran and was quite pleased with the non-pilling worsted material. I was still getting some burn marks at frequently used break positions, for example. On my next recover I went all the way to the top of the line worsted. I was immediately impressed with the weight, toughness and speed of the slick new cloth. I have been playing on it for over a year now and it is very resistant to ball burn marks and there is no pilling at all. Yes, it is expensive but I will buy the best again when it is time to resurface my table. Good video on a subject that is often overlooked. In this case, you do get what you pay for, in my opinion..
Yes, if you are a seriously player then a good quality cloth is a must. You want ot get the best you can within your budget. If you only play once in a while, or its in the kids play room etc the a cheaper cloth is fine. But if you're getting seriously into pool it is a good idea to invest into a better cloth. Simonis is the brand leader, and their HR cloth is very resistant to burn marks (white spots), but you are looking at several hundred dollars for Simonis cloth. But if the budget allows and you play quite a bit then it's a wise investment. Great tips, thanks for sharing your experiences!! :-)
@@AverageJoesPool Simonis 860 is on the table now. It replaced Champion worsted, another good cloth at a lower cost than Simonis but I could tell the difference immediately. Now if i could just keep the cat off of it.
Hey guys, I'm a daily player for about 1-2 hours. Do you find Simonis lasts longer too? Or does it just play better? What kind of life can I expect from both types u speak of? Thx a million for the help 🙏
Can you do another one of these and demonstrate the differences and all the Pro's and Con's?0 Skill required to install one vs other? Tendency to have burn marks. Ease of cleaning. Issues about colors, etc. I really enjoyed some of your other videos where you used data and demonstrations to cover all the aspects of the topic. Thanks
Thanks for the awesome videos. Ive watched 3 or 4 so far getting ready to bondo my slate and refelt. One question, I noticed a lot of felt kits come with precut rails but the table is precut too. Do the precut table clothes usually line up pretty well or should I be looking to buy that in bulk and cut it down myself?
Glad you are enjoying the video's! The cloths do not come pre-cut. It may be that the image you are looking at has been shaped so it's obvious it's a pool table cloth, but in reality what you receive when you order will be a large rectangle of cloth. Hope that helps! 👍
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The best way is probably keeping it nice and clean, and the same for the balls as well. You could also look at waxing the balls which would add a layer of silicone, but wears off after 10-20 games usually. Constant brushing it may raise the nap rather than reduce it. You could also look at ironing the cloth, but please be sure to research that properly before doing it DIY as you can damage the cloth if you run the iron too hot. Best of luck!
It would be worth having a good deep think on the best colour to use, as black is often listed as one of the worst cloth colours. It may depend a little on how often you intend to play and so therefore if things like eye fatigue and likely to be a potential issue down the line. Tournament Blue tends to be the favourite, and it definitely has a number of advantages. It may be worth taking a look here: forums.azbilliards.com/threads/billiard-table-cloth-color-a-survey.179148/ Best of luck!
@@AverageJoesPool Thanks for the reply. Refurbishing a pool table and wanted to do white with black felt, as it's contrast is so striking. I'll prob have to keep a brush and vac nearby lol
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Any advice or videos on smoothing out a high spot from I believe moisture (pool table was stored in a basement for a few years & a mouse made it's home on it, so you can guess what the "moisture" is from) on a wooden pool table top? We already plan to refelt & change out the bumpers, but I don't want to do anything if it's not possible to smooth that out without making any low spots from sanding.
@@kuliii Well, you probably won't like my advice... If it's a wooden top table then it may not be the best investment to put money into replacing the rail rubbers and the cloth TBH. A better option might be to buy a cheap used slate pool table, which can be picked up REALLY cheap (sometimes even for free if people need to move or need the space in their house quickly for renovations etc). If you get lucky the rail rubbers won't need replacing and so that would be a bonus! And then re-cloth that table instead. A slate table would give you a much, much better experience for playing that the wooden one ever will. I hope that's of some use/help for you 😃
@@AverageJoesPool no, any advice is good. We were gonna fix it up for the kids, just so we didn't have to deal with moving it out & moving another in. Thank you
This might be off topic but can I make a set of extra rails that seat inside my table rails in order to create a carom table. Which would obviously be smaller than my current playing area
Well, anything is possible. It could be a nightmare though. The rails are bolted through the slate so there is no movement, having 'floating' inner rails you'd need to think of some way to secure them. It's one of those projects that is absolutely possible, but when you start thinking of the complications it gets quite complex pretty quickly. But best of luck with it if you choose to proceed! --- To help support us (for both you and others reading this) there are a few things you can do: 1) Donations both needed and welcome! We cannot operate Average Joes Pool without the support of people like you! You can donate by PayPal - just go to www.paypal.me/thanksfixsavers - or alternatively you can click the SUPER THANKS icon under the video on UA-cam and donate that way too! 2) Please ensure you subscribe to our UA-cam channel. 3) Please Like our video's on UA-cam (by clicking Like!) 4) Please help spread the word, the more people who know about us the better! Add links to our video's in forums, let people know about us. Thank you for your support!
i'm making a custom portable table that might not get much use, would i be able to use a polyester cloth instead to save cost? i'm having issues finding info on fabrics and where i can get them in one length( i also want it in purple, which is why i'm more inclined to polyester)
You may be better off buying a cheap pool table cloth from Amazon (or similar) in the long-run. The problem with cloths is they react differently to the balls, especially for spin. So when you apply spin you get a feel for how far the ball will travel before the spin takes, and of course this can vary somewhat between different cloths, age of cloth etc. When you're looking at completely different fabrics it is likley to have an effect on the way the balls play and how the cue ball grips in on spin shots. Hope that makes sense! So sticking with a cloth designed for pool, even a cheap one, would likley be better than going into fabrics not designed for pool. It could go either way though!! Hope that helps! --- To help support us (for both you and others reading this) there are a few things you can do: 1) Donations both needed and welcome! We cannot operate Average Joes Pool without the support of people like you! You can donate by PayPal - just go to www.paypal.me/thanksfixsavers - or alternatively you can click the SUPER THANKS icon under the video on UA-cam and donate that way too! 2) Please ensure you subscribe to our UA-cam channel. 3) Please Like our video's on UA-cam (by clicking Like!) 4) Please help spread the word, the more people who know about us the better! Add links to our video's in forums, let people know about us. Thank you for your support!
If I have a 7ft pool table, what kind of cloth should I buy? napped or worsted? because if I buy a worsted for smaller table I have, it's very hard to control ball movement. it's run so wild.
That may depend more on where you are than your table size... In North America worsted tends to be the more standard choice, whereas in the UK (for example) it's almost all napped (on smaller tables). It's a good point about cloth speed on smaller tables!! 👍
Napped cloth is actually more expensive than nappless cloth. For example, strachan superfine is a napped cloth but costs close to £200. On the other hand a high quality nappless cloth like the hainsworth elite pro costs roughly £140.
Yes, things are pretty different in the UK. In the UK napped is the standard and what everyone wants, and napless is the secondary option. In North America the opposite is true (for pool). £200 is cheap for a top-tier cloth!! By contrast, Simonis 860HR cloth here for a 9ft table sells in the $350-$400 (US) range, over £300. Just different horses for different courses I guess!! :-)
We have some Amazon link in the video description for some of teh best value ones. If budget allows then the best is probably Simonis, which is used in most tournaments. It does cost several hundred dollars, but it's has the reputation of being the best of the best! --- To help support us (for both you and others reading this) there are a few things you can do: 1) Donations both needed and welcome! We cannot operate Average Joes Pool without the support of people like you! You can donate by PayPal - just go to www.paypal.me/thanksfixsavers - or alternatively you can click the SUPER THANKS icon under the video on UA-cam and donate that way too! 2) Please ensure you subscribe to our UA-cam channel. 3) Please Like our video's on UA-cam (by clicking Like!) 4) Please help spread the word, the more people who know about us the better! Add links to our video's in forums, let people know about us. Thank you for your support!
Napped cloth isn't good cloth at all. It's like playing pool on sand, it's slow and limits the shots you can do and also makes learning the basics such as speed control and positioning harder vs Simonis cloth
Yes, napped and worsted can play quite differently. That said, snooker guys play on napped cloths, as do English pool players often, and they've been known to pull off a good shot or two ;-)
Elite Snooker tours and Chinese 8-ball tours play on quality napped tables. I am confident those tables used on those tours are using a very high quality. ...The players and their excellent fundamentals/techniques can adjust to playing on different cloths if need be. ...Just like golfers playing on different grass materials. Pool/Snooker players practice and adjust to the different table conditions.
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Came for felt knowledge and conparison and left with the lifetime question of how to say worcestershire sauce answered too! Love this channel and the host! Great job 👏🏻
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Very informative video. Love it !! Thanks for sharing. Liked & subscribed
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Great information. You're a very helpful guy. Thank you.
Thank you :-)
I've purchased both felt and worsted cloth of a variety of weights. The felt cloth tends to pill and shed, requiring constant brushing to remove the pilling. It is also much slower and is subject to ball burns anywhere you frequently strike balls hard with some spin. This is simply the result of friction from the spinning ball. I decided to go with worsted after one of my felt cloths faded badly due to sunlight shining on it grough a window. I was tired of the pilling and scorch marks and decided to buy a good worsted but couldn't justify the cost of the top brand.I went with a well known also ran and was quite pleased with the non-pilling worsted material. I was still getting some burn marks at frequently used break positions, for example. On my next recover I went all the way to the top of the line worsted. I was immediately impressed with the weight, toughness and speed of the slick new cloth. I have been playing on it for over a year now and it is very resistant to ball burn marks and there is no pilling at all. Yes, it is expensive but I will buy the best again when it is time to resurface my table. Good video on a subject that is often overlooked. In this case, you do get what you pay for, in my opinion..
Yes, if you are a seriously player then a good quality cloth is a must. You want ot get the best you can within your budget. If you only play once in a while, or its in the kids play room etc the a cheaper cloth is fine. But if you're getting seriously into pool it is a good idea to invest into a better cloth. Simonis is the brand leader, and their HR cloth is very resistant to burn marks (white spots), but you are looking at several hundred dollars for Simonis cloth. But if the budget allows and you play quite a bit then it's a wise investment. Great tips, thanks for sharing your experiences!! :-)
@@AverageJoesPool Simonis 860 is on the table now. It replaced Champion worsted, another good cloth at a lower cost than Simonis but I could tell the difference immediately. Now if i could just keep the cat off of it.
Hey guys, I'm a daily player for about 1-2 hours. Do you find Simonis lasts longer too? Or does it just play better? What kind of life can I expect from both types u speak of? Thx a million for the help 🙏
Can you do another one of these and demonstrate the differences and all the Pro's and Con's?0 Skill required to install one vs other? Tendency to have burn marks. Ease of cleaning. Issues about colors, etc. I really enjoyed some of your other videos where you used data and demonstrations to cover all the aspects of the topic. Thanks
An interesting approach, I like it! Maybe we'll revisit this subject at some point in the future! 👍
Thanks for the awesome videos. Ive watched 3 or 4 so far getting ready to bondo my slate and refelt. One question, I noticed a lot of felt kits come with precut rails but the table is precut too. Do the precut table clothes usually line up pretty well or should I be looking to buy that in bulk and cut it down myself?
Glad you are enjoying the video's! The cloths do not come pre-cut. It may be that the image you are looking at has been shaped so it's obvious it's a pool table cloth, but in reality what you receive when you order will be a large rectangle of cloth. Hope that helps! 👍
Thank you so much 😀👍👍👍👍👍
You're very welcome, hope it was helpful for you :-)
Very very interesting
Thank you
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Great info thanks!
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Can you make a napped cloth faster? Maybe by brushing a lot ?
The best way is probably keeping it nice and clean, and the same for the balls as well. You could also look at waxing the balls which would add a layer of silicone, but wears off after 10-20 games usually. Constant brushing it may raise the nap rather than reduce it. You could also look at ironing the cloth, but please be sure to research that properly before doing it DIY as you can damage the cloth if you run the iron too hot. Best of luck!
Any suggestions on black felt? I'm going to use jet black and u sure which kind I should use. I'd guess napped would prob not be as black?
It would be worth having a good deep think on the best colour to use, as black is often listed as one of the worst cloth colours. It may depend a little on how often you intend to play and so therefore if things like eye fatigue and likely to be a potential issue down the line. Tournament Blue tends to be the favourite, and it definitely has a number of advantages. It may be worth taking a look here: forums.azbilliards.com/threads/billiard-table-cloth-color-a-survey.179148/ Best of luck!
@@AverageJoesPool Thanks for the reply. Refurbishing a pool table and wanted to do white with black felt, as it's contrast is so striking. I'll prob have to keep a brush and vac nearby lol
If nothing else, thank you for the clarification on the pronunciation of Worcestershire sauce! Haha
Glad we could clear that one up for you, lol 🙂
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Any advice or videos on smoothing out a high spot from I believe moisture (pool table was stored in a basement for a few years & a mouse made it's home on it, so you can guess what the "moisture" is from) on a wooden pool table top? We already plan to refelt & change out the bumpers, but I don't want to do anything if it's not possible to smooth that out without making any low spots from sanding.
@@kuliii Well, you probably won't like my advice... If it's a wooden top table then it may not be the best investment to put money into replacing the rail rubbers and the cloth TBH. A better option might be to buy a cheap used slate pool table, which can be picked up REALLY cheap (sometimes even for free if people need to move or need the space in their house quickly for renovations etc). If you get lucky the rail rubbers won't need replacing and so that would be a bonus! And then re-cloth that table instead. A slate table would give you a much, much better experience for playing that the wooden one ever will. I hope that's of some use/help for you 😃
@@AverageJoesPool no, any advice is good. We were gonna fix it up for the kids, just so we didn't have to deal with moving it out & moving another in. Thank you
This might be off topic but can I make a set of extra rails that seat inside my table rails in order to create a carom table. Which would obviously be smaller than my current playing area
Well, anything is possible. It could be a nightmare though. The rails are bolted through the slate so there is no movement, having 'floating' inner rails you'd need to think of some way to secure them. It's one of those projects that is absolutely possible, but when you start thinking of the complications it gets quite complex pretty quickly. But best of luck with it if you choose to proceed!
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i'm making a custom portable table that might not get much use, would i be able to use a polyester cloth instead to save cost? i'm having issues finding info on fabrics and where i can get them in one length( i also want it in purple, which is why i'm more inclined to polyester)
You may be better off buying a cheap pool table cloth from Amazon (or similar) in the long-run. The problem with cloths is they react differently to the balls, especially for spin. So when you apply spin you get a feel for how far the ball will travel before the spin takes, and of course this can vary somewhat between different cloths, age of cloth etc. When you're looking at completely different fabrics it is likley to have an effect on the way the balls play and how the cue ball grips in on spin shots. Hope that makes sense! So sticking with a cloth designed for pool, even a cheap one, would likley be better than going into fabrics not designed for pool. It could go either way though!! Hope that helps!
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You forget the personal favorite "Greenwich" lol
Yes, Green-Witch vs Gren-Itch is also a good one :-)
If I have a 7ft pool table, what kind of cloth should I buy? napped or worsted? because if I buy a worsted for smaller table I have, it's very hard to control ball movement. it's run so wild.
That may depend more on where you are than your table size... In North America worsted tends to be the more standard choice, whereas in the UK (for example) it's almost all napped (on smaller tables). It's a good point about cloth speed on smaller tables!! 👍
Napped cloth is actually more expensive than nappless cloth. For example, strachan superfine is a napped cloth but costs close to £200. On the other hand a high quality nappless cloth like the hainsworth elite pro costs roughly £140.
Yes, things are pretty different in the UK. In the UK napped is the standard and what everyone wants, and napless is the secondary option. In North America the opposite is true (for pool). £200 is cheap for a top-tier cloth!! By contrast, Simonis 860HR cloth here for a 9ft table sells in the $350-$400 (US) range, over £300. Just different horses for different courses I guess!! :-)
where can i get some good quality worsted cloth
We have some Amazon link in the video description for some of teh best value ones. If budget allows then the best is probably Simonis, which is used in most tournaments. It does cost several hundred dollars, but it's has the reputation of being the best of the best!
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Wait a Minute, what Happen to Niels Feijen?
Did he just get more handsome, lol! 😜
Napped cloth isn't good cloth at all. It's like playing pool on sand, it's slow and limits the shots you can do and also makes learning the basics such as speed control and positioning harder vs Simonis cloth
Yes, napped and worsted can play quite differently. That said, snooker guys play on napped cloths, as do English pool players often, and they've been known to pull off a good shot or two ;-)
Elite Snooker tours and Chinese 8-ball tours play on quality napped tables. I am confident those tables used on those tours are using a very high quality.
...The players and their excellent fundamentals/techniques can adjust to playing on different cloths if need be.
...Just like golfers playing on different grass materials. Pool/Snooker players practice and adjust to the different table conditions.