ASSAULTED AND GOT THE POLICE CALLED ON ME - “No filming” policy at Sydney Trains, Mt Druitt
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- I did an audit at Mt Druitt train station in the belief that the train station is public property owned by the state government and that public filming is freely permitted. I found out that their staff is ignorant about public photography, but also that I needed permission to film at any train station, and to fork out lots of money for the privilege. Their policy effectively curtails public photography around public transport and shows how the government is insidiously overreaching into private recreational pursuits. I was assaulted by one triggered person who didn’t want to be filmed. In the end, the police were close to laying charges on me for intimidating passengers and refusing to provide my contact details.
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Very clear to see that that guy is no stranger to bullying people who he perceives as weaker than him. Probably does that kind of thing to his family.
😂 as soon as someone stands up to the piss weak Gronk he would run like a little bitch
Just because you can do something dose not mean you should do something it's wrong and disrespectful to video like this like I'm a photographer and think this is rude unless you are doing street photography or something mate this is not photography at all its wrong to me and you are rude I just don't think it's acceptable just because it's not against the law don't make it ok I would not like this one bit and would get mad at you also
Wow, your sentence is really long. You should throw a few full stops and commas in there.
@@fyiaustralia9686 you should stop being a rude stuck up mofo I type how I want
So she, the woman police officer.. had no interest in the assault and actually said she understands why someone would assault him and that its ok for the absent person to do so. She has no knowledge of law and spouts her own opinion and has no jurisdiction over a civil matter which at best, trespassing is but only and it’s important, only when a person has been asked to leave a location or premises whether public or private.. the rest is up to the courts to hold those stepping outside the law accountable.. that is if you dont meet another corrupt law representative along the way
Police only want to exert their imagined authority over anyone who isn't breaking the law.
what more do you expect from a fefail flop?
@@fyiaustralia9686 Yo Your Not A Local So why the Fuck Would the Cops Help You, You got what You Asked For. Any Person with A Brain Wouldn't Go To Mount Druitt Blacktown Doonside Station Etc Etc Filming People Without There Consent. Stay Out Of Western Sydney Because After this It Wouldn't Be in your Bedt Interest To go Back To Western Sydney
Eshay ''Lad'' just didn't want to be recorded jumping the ticket barrier.
Lol true eshays suck
He's a NUFF NUFF 😂😂😂
😂😂😂 100%
and u see the other brown lad with the gucci satchel get seen jumping over on camera he didn't care this tall white guy clearly has mental problems
Why does that guy look 12 years old and 40 years old at the same time 😂😂
It is not a public place, this is where people do not understand. It is private property open to the public, now once you engage in illegal activity, harassment, intimidating etc: once you are asked to leave or asked to stop what you are doing, once you refuse, you are trespassing. The police may give you a move on order, or if you refuse to leave, they have the right to arrest you and charge you for tress pass, intail comes with a maximum penalty of $11,000
Mt druitt police hang around that railway station only in daylight fining people for not having a ticket in broad daylight where their safe. At night when someone is bashed by gangs their no where around to assist the victim.. I guess police don't want to be attacked .easyier to play cops and robbers. As for the train guard he needs to learn that football grounds are private property but public transports stations arent.
They took 40 minutes to respond to the station staff call, yet the police station is just 5 minutes walk from the train station. Seems they don't care about keeping law and order, only abusing it.
No. Police have various priorities in terms of incidents to attend to. Furthermore I can't imagine these, or any other two officers coming to the aid of victims surrounded by 20 or so agressive, big, strong Islander males.
@@chocolateassasin9781 That sight would scare off the thin blue line...
Attention junkie
You are honestly asking for trouble just cruising around a train station filming people for no reason especially in western Sydney basically waiting for someone to kick off and say something to you so you can respond with “it’s my legal right to film what ever I want in a public place” , pretty silly ! I understand it’s legal for you to film but honestly it’s a stupid thing to do .
Public photography has never been stupid. Unprovoked assault is stupid.
Being a nuisance is stupid. But filming young families and kids without permission is just creepy paedo stuff.
Exercising a right is stupid ,dont think so mate ,it's people like you that cow down and tow to whatever the governments agenda ,sheep.
If you are not harrassing, intimating or disturbing people the police cannot issue a move on order.
If people don't want to be filmed in a public place it is up to those people to move on not the person filming the public spaces.
So right.
I love all the surveillance cameras that are catching all of his actions and motions, but he's worried about you breaching his privacy? what a joke
It makes you wonder doesn't it?
True. He actually asks for the station workers to get footage too for him to use to prosecute haha
My wife and I arrived Chicago in 2010 coming in from the state of New York. I had my wife take a picture of me at the front of the locomotive once we were in the depot. Two traveling bongo brothers told her to stop taking their picture because as they said the camera '"steals their soul.."
😅
That's when I pointed out to them the surveillance cameras , at least six of them on the overhead roof at Chicago Union station...
Suck a bag of puke😂😂😂😂😂😂
False equivalence. That daily CCTV doesn't get uploaded to UA-cam for entertainment
"You could be a pedo" (x10) hmmmm.... Interesting. Says the guy who appears to check out a 9 year old after 6:52 I watched that 10 second period about 5 times and that's the only conclusion I can come to. Maybe that's why he says "delete the evidence bruhhh!". Well too late buddy, we've all seen it now.
😁👌
Well spotted
The disgusting subhuman also fondles itself a number of times. It can be seen doing this early on before the morbidly obese staff member caused the escalation. Also - why are these subhuman oxygen thieves allowed to procreate?
This makes me want to film in public even more
For your own protection of course.
shows how untrained our police force is
They are trained to protect their own government...
They're not untrained but very stupid💯🤣🤣🤣
The police are a bunch of arrogant year 10 dropouts, bunch of useless and overpaid clowns.
It’s not unlawful to film when one is concerned for ones safety according to the surveillance act. Police and media do it.
Absolutely. And I had my body cam going all the time for my protection.
What a life… you go around to see if your aloud to film on a train station for fun
So you think he should be band from filming aloud at they're sight I take it.
@@valentinius62 when tf did he say that lol
Mate you failed year three spelling, why would anyone listen to what you have to say? Just pipe down clown. 🤡
They do it under the guise of freedom but the real motive is to stick a camera in peoples face and get a reaction out of them then act puzzled as to why the other person is angry.
@@spiderweb5539 he's legally allowed to do it you maggot
its good to see the disabled sticking up for the disabled
Yeah, like dumb and dumber.
😂🤣😂🤣😂
I find it interesting how many people are saying it's a breach of their "policy." Some people seem to forget that they are public servants and work for us. Public photography is not a crime or illegal. The move-along direction wasn't lawful under LEPRA, and that cop was a rookie. Her supervisor should have immediately corrected her unlawful behaviour. The biggest problem with the police is that we keep allowing them to get away with things that are unlawful, and by not correcting them, we are reinforcing their tyrannical behaviour.
As I NSW security guard with 6+yrs experiance in every type of unarmed security including dealing with assaults, theft & trespassing just to list some experiences of mine, I am confident that you did nothing wrong in this video.
-You can legally refuse to provide your details to police as they were unable to articulate any reasonable suspicion that you had committed a crime. You are only legally required to provide details to police if they have reasonable suspicion you have committed a crime.
-You are legally aloud to film in a public space, regardless of it being private property or public property.
-Train stations are public property that is operated by a private organisation. They are owned by state governments and operated by public organisations.
The only thing I'd pull you up on is whilst you do have the legal right to film anyone in a public space, others also have the right to ask you not to film them. If for what ever reason you are unable to comply with this request than legally you can not use that footage or pictures for any official use such as advertising or press or you much blur them out. If they find footage that they are in and it shows them asking you not to film them they can take you to court but you'll probably be made to take the video down or edit them out......many different laws regarding to filming in public! I would also argue that it was evident you were there to cause issues as you'd know how people react to this sort of thing and as such were being a public nuisance (which is the only reasonable grounds for police to ask for your details) as a normal person who was no intending on causing issues would have simply moved on and recorded a different public space if public photography was the honest to god reason for you being there.
WRONG. a dunce like you in the security business is scary. You don't know what you are talking about. You imagine what the laws are, you make it up as you go along.. You potentially dangerous, I'm glad they wont give you a gun.
That's wrong. I can film whoever I want especially on public space. If they don't like it, they can't do shit about it besides move on.
@@NoCallerID70457 Did you not read my comment? You can film in public spaces but if someone does not wish to be filmed you can not use that footage in any legal capacity whether it be in court or in promotion of your business....you can still film them but the footage or pictures can not be legally used, especially if it's recorded that they asked you not to film.
@TheMegaAsh Still wrong. Also, what you said is dumb (and so is what you said before) you're accusing him of being there to cause issues and that he isn't there solely for recording. "Did you not read my comment" prick.
@TheMegaAsh You're still wrong. Also you said it was evident he was there to cause issues by filming! Who're you to make that judgement? "A normal person who wasn't intending on casting issues would've simply moved on" that's about as dumb as what you said earlier.
The thug should have been detained by police for assault and damage to property uphold the law. Don`t go policing company policies and feelings.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE ON CAMERA, WALK AWAY FROM THE PERSON WITH THE CAMERA......
Section 227A prohibits the visual recording of a person without their consent in a private place or while they are engaged in a private act.
There is no expectation of privacy in a public place. For clarification, OP is referring to the Criminal Code 1988 (Qld). The video was not filmed in Queensland.
@fyiaustralia9686 look up " Lawpath " is it legal to film in public places.
By the way a public is classed as a open area such as a beach or park
@fyiaustralia9686 and you haven't been given consent from the public that you was filming to share on social media.
Completely agree with you, its the same as the Sydney Harbour foreshore. WIth a stroke of a pen it was effecively made private property. These should be challenged as its plain wrong. Sydney Trains doesnt own the rail property I believe it is owned by either Transport for NSW or RailCorp (they are in effect leasing it). All three ABN entities types are state government entities, which require it to be a government body - cant be a private corporation. Kind of shoots their private corporation narative. Plus if you ask them they'll say they are public servants. Any reasonable person would deem the area not past the gates as a public place. Its high time that someone challenge it in court to get a proper ruling. The intimidation concept was novel as its one of the very few reasons they can give a move on directive. Maybe remind them that the if 99.99% of the people walked passed you and said nothing that the 'reasonable firmness' test wasnt met to the move on direction. Probably wont help at the time but if you choose to take it further legally it could help.
Thanks for your considered response. Interesting that the staff said it's not public property, but they wouldn't commit to the question if it was private property either! Nothing I was doing could be considered a summary offence, but the police pulled the "intimidation" line and cited section 99 of LEPRA, which still rests on a reasonable suspicion an offence has been committed. Notice at 28:07 the constable said that if I don't move on I would be committing "other further" offences - but it wasn't stated that I had committed any offence at all. The deceit from everyone was infuriating. I'll stand my ground and test the policy one day...
I support the right for people to record in public within reason such as vlogs, filming nature etc but some places their is an expectation of privacy... and filming people going about their day is just asking for trouble and a waste of time for everyone involved . It may not be illegal to film at a train station, but people will take the law into their own hands if you provoke them. For the original poster to argue with the transit workers and then ask them for protection one minute later is humorous... would I have reacted the same way as the irate passenger? no, I would've continued about my business but I'm not everyone any you must be carful who you annoy because some people will take maters into their own hands if they feel disrespected.
We all need more common sense. I respect your opinion, but doesn't mean I agree with it.
What a swearing fool. He is worried about you filling in a public place but yet he displays acts of violence and swearing. The cops should be detaining him not harassing you
Exactly.
Funny how we are so offened when someone put a cam on us yet big brother is watching all the time.
They are oblivious to the street cameras, yet someone with a camera in their hand is suddenly suspicious.
And increasingly scanning our biometrics via face recognition.
I've seen the little junkie around before.biggest drop kick around
LMAO I don't know him, but he certainly is a dropkick. "Delete the fucking evidence, bro!!!" "You're not walking off with my camera!!!" Hilarious.
@@WulfricUlfang001he's obviously got a mental condition no need to call him a dropkick
it's there "policy" , what someone's policy is & what the law is , are 2 different things. .
Sydney, making Melbourne look better everyday.
Melbourne is a shit hole
Bro this is mount Druitt
Can tell by the. Braaa
@@Jamala_western wouldn't go pass Parramatta
Australian courts are very clear on this. You have every right to film in public spaces, people do not have an "expectation of privacy in public"...the test being, otherwise, it wouldn't be a "public space". Inside a toilet block etc, a person does have an expectation of reasonable privacy, so you could not film. The only thing that police officer should have been doing, was arresting anyone who assaulted you! IF you were filming for expressly commercial purposes or, your filming unreasonably hindered people, that would be different. So long as you are not hindering or harrassing people, you can film away!
It's clear that if it's public transport it must be a public place. The police were wrongly enforcing Sydney Trains policy.
The legislation is pretty clear that it is up to each council to govern filming in public.
Also this is not a public space. They are correct, it is a corporation owned by the government so it is not public owned space, but rather a business that is accessible to the public.
If you can name 1 court case in Australia that proves me wrong I'll give you $100.
You've been watching too many Americans
@@topofthemorning6832 incorrect, trains stations ARE a public place. IF a person is filming for NON Commercial reasons, they are entitled to do so, so long as not hindering others/causing safety issues. Again, Australian courts have been very clear on this. A train station is not typically a place a person would expect privacy.
Mt Druitt. misfit central and this proves it. Interesting to note, 24 CCTV surveillance what's the issue? Common assault offence committed and no one steps in to help. Answer this, What about train spotters?
I guess it's an everyday occurrence there.
@@fyiaustralia9686 You think so? Come to the Central coast you'll find the same shit up here, Go around Campbelltown and surrounding areas'.
It's funny how there's a sign telling people they can't smoke, drink alcohol, put their feet on the seats, etc. but nothing about filming. That said, filming in a public place is like farting in a public place. Both are perfectly legal. We've all farted in public but if there are people around, we try to sneak it out silently so no one notices and most people have the common sense and decency to do that. Whilst it's perfectly legal to rip the loudest fart of all time in a public place, if you walked right up to someone with the intention of doing that just to get a reaction and if you were told off or even slapped for it, you deserved it. You can say you're allowed to fart in public all you like but you set out to annoy someone, just because you can. That's the difference between Sydney Trains not caring about 99% of people who take pictures and video on their stations and trains when they're doing it in a discreet manner with no intention of annoying anyone, and the 1% who make it so obvious that they draw attention to themselves. Attention they hope to get. As it was, no one came near you for 8 minutes and 40 seconds. That's plenty of film for anyone who was just filming the station because they have a genuine interest in trains and stations but you had every intention of going for as long as it took to get the attention you wanted. You went there to draw attention to yourself and if no one paid you any mind at all, your film would not have been put on YT. There'd be no "I filmed all day at Mt Druitt station and no one said a word to me" video and you would delete the footage because you have no real interest in trains or stations. You don't make documentaries and a film about Mt Druitt station is not something you'd keep and watch from time to time. Tell you what, you can't make yourself fart whenever you want to but you can pick your nose and fling the snot around in public. It's disgusting but not illegal so go to a restaurant or similar and do that in front of a bunch of people and see if you're told to piss off. When the manager comes out to see you and tells you to leave, tell him it's legal to pick your nose and you'll be staying and continuing to pick your nose. When the cops turn up, tell them that too. They can't charge you with picking your nose but they can escort you from the place because the manager told you to leave and you didn't. I look forward to seeing the video of you being dragged out by the scruff of your neck saying "but it's legal to pick one's nose in a restaurant" on YT.
Thanks for watching and learning.
He said he is just filming a glimpse of everyday life. Nothing wrong with that, there are videos of this taken back in the 80s and 70s and they're valuable and interesting to watch now.
I remembered this channel just the other week when I hopped off the bus and there was a car accident right there. The police rolled up and asked me to leave and not film, I cited LEPRA and stated they need specific reasons to ask you to move along. Namely, you must be intoxicated, harassing or a threat to someone else, or involved in some sort of crime. I hope I was in the right- I think I was.
Generally, the public and the police even, are unprepared for a person who does a bit of legal research.
I think the duty managers red nose indicates a drinking problem.
Eshay upset he didn’t get his centerlink payments
We have thousands of tourists and youtubers take photos and film every day at those public transport, did they all get a written permission from you?? Why it is double standard just because this guy is doing some experimental videos?
Was it filmed on Red Nose Day?
NO WAY YOU GOT ASSAULTED AND THEN TOLD TO MOVE ON - coming from a NSW Police Officer im appauled - im sorry this shit happened to you
filming a person engaged in a private act, is a serious offence that carries a maximum penalty of a fine of 100 penalty units and/or imprisonment for two year …
Amateur and professional filmmakers and photographers must obtain permission from Sydney Trains to conduct any filming/photography on our premises.
Each request will be reviewed on a case by case basis. Sydney Trains reserves the right to refuse any filming and photography requests.
Your requirements
Applicants are required to submit an application for assessment and scheduling - Fees apply
A minimum of 10 business days notices is required to process applications.
Applicants must obtain Public Liability Insurance for the sum of $20 million.
The crew may be required to meet on site prior to filming with a Safety Officer for a briefing (call out fee will apply)
So nobody is allowed to take their phone out of their pocket and use the camera until they get permission from Sydney trains and pay the fees and obtain Public Liability Insurance for the sum of $20 million... So what's going on? Go to Circular Quay train station and I suppose the ferry wharves..and especially on the ferries, folks are taking photos and videos all the time...Ain't nobody freaking out there. Look pal, there are so many people all day everywhere on train stations on trains, bus stops and on buses trams ferries etc using their cameras and the transport authorities can't stop them and nobody even tries ... So whether Circular Quay, Central, Wondabyne or Mount Druitt you cannot discriminate. UA-cam is filled with videos shot on Sydney trains and stations. And do yourself a favour Ramones, re-read and properly understand all that stuff about about permissions, it don't apply to ordinary people using a camera.
@@Happy.Nigel. Mate that was just a copy/paste from Sydney trains website
@@SirRamone Like I said,keep reading... I copied and pasted this. ''Many members of the community take photographs or film on the transport network every day, whether it is taking selfies or photos of something that caught their eye as they travel. There is NO ban on this activity although we always ask people to avoid anything that could compromise safety and the operations of the network. People taking photos or filming should also be always mindful of the privacy of other passengers and our staff''. also...''We are aware that we cannot stop people from taking photos on their mobile devices. We only ask that they do not put their personal safety at risk''. Sir Ramone, personal photography is not illegal. The thug should have been arrested,the station staff and that dumb cop should've been sacked.
And after spending all that money on PLI and the lead time and going through the hoops with bureaucracy, there is still no guarantee the application will be accepted. Can you not see how insane the permit process is? It is a public place and photography is legal. Exercise that right or lose it forever.
I generally would just give them a call or speak to a member of staff, especially a train guard.
I have developed some great relationships with a few of them in Freo and they give me full access to film but I do the buses - I've also had extremely strong relationships with the bus drivers up until covid when everything died down
It goes to show relationships go a long way
I think wannabe eshay bro was a bit mentally challenged. Shame on the workers not standing up for his rights and defending him against the gangster. Shame on the police for not defending public rights.
Why is an eshay asking people for ticket proof and then suddenly disappeared when police arrive???
Filming and photography is the only rule managed by the train company NOT the transport authority.
If they look up so many cameras filming the train station did, the police ask you if they can film you no . Its al just dumb
That coppa was in the wrong, you're allowed to film and you were assualted, wtf?
I know.
Up to each council to decide the rules surrounded public filming. Most people just assume you're allowed to film in public because that's what happens in America.
The guy filming this is not familiar with the legislation, he's just making assumptions.
Owned by the government does not equate to being public property.
There's a reason why old mate filming hasn't sued the police over this
There's no generic rule for filming in public spaces in Australia. It's actually up to each council to decide believe it or not.
Some councils actually require you to obtain a permit before even filming in any publicly owned space.
Sydney Trains who owns the space that you are on have always required written permits atleast 10 days in advance before filming.
You're not in America mate.
That's nonsense. Thousands of people use the train stations everyday. Many of those people filmed at those train stations with their phones and those people did not get permission to film.
@@johnm84 it's also illegal to jaywalk, and thousands do it every day. What's your point?
You are required to get their permission. Your opinion doesn't matter when it comes to state law. The reason they don't enforce it is because most people aren't creepy about it like this guy
All nsw train stations are public property if it received taxpayer money.
Can you link me the news article? I hope you did a lawsuit both against Sydney Trains and the guy who assaulted you!
The "Ice Pipe" is strong with that one..
A. There are cameras everywhere.
B. Was the officers orders lawful?
C. If it was Chanel 9 or7, no one would crack the sads.
He has the right to record in public and the idiot that was stalking him assulted him more than once and if they can use cctv without his permission then so can he rule of law as for mr name caller why was assult exceptable and attempted theft but not filming in public and that woman instigated that by simply making the comment you can't that triggered meathead who was stalking the photghrapher my hat of to mate who have guts not the station staff shame on the police for facilitating a policy and not law.
Thanks Shayne, couldn't agree more!
Just to give you context, if your not from Australia this town is one of only 3 in the country you can marry your cousin or even brother or sister
Do not record people in public
I can’t believe how shameless are this people. There should be part 2 of this story.
Big tough guy with everyone around him i.e. the railway workers on his side. Would love to find him and get him on his own 🤛🤛🤛🤛🤛🤛
No problem Glen, he is often seen around Dawson Mall, you'll spot him. let me know when, I'll film it.
Worst Sydney trains customer service I’ve seen
Yep, two of them were pretty rude.
Especially that eshay. Those kind of people are just always finding away of getting attention like there in a gang or something.
Is adidas boy simple or something?
The funny thing is how the workers says is not a public place but when they ask who own the train station they says its government lol I don’t know if they dump or what lol public place own by the government and the government own by the people lol there is no sign of camera prohibited. This workers a fool lol
Did the station attendant or station master explain the reason the policy of filming on railway property or of trains is in place? The main reason I had been told by the station master at Newcastle was that if an incident occurs, and you are spending the day on that platform without riding a train filming with written authorisation, protects/ clears you of involvement.
Yet Sydney Trains regularly advertise photography competitions about their trains.
I'm all for filming an adventure but the way you were just lingered in that one spot focusing on the families was a little creepy..
You got the close up shot of the Turnstiles, got the longshot of the turnstiles, then stood around for almost 2 minutes, if u got the shots and kept moving you probably would have been fine.
You should probably have a read up on our laws also, so when you get tested you will actually sound like you know what your talking about.. all your lines you stole straight from American audit videos.
I also believe you filmed their policy sign on the way in and it had nothing about cameras, maybe they should add that.😂
What a sad world we live in where we can't even record memories of our own kids playing sports.
You can film. Nobody has a right not to be filmed. That's the law.
Yea was a bit creepy. Go film something worthwhile instead of Baiting people.
Seriously 😒, NSWPF may be good at some things, but more than half the time they are absolutely annoying and love to disturb people doing nothing!!!
Most police officers are given instructions, and are just told to do whatever it takes to get their “Scenarios/call-outs” finished, in my opinion!!!
And unlike back on the day when police where strong, fit and healthy, now you quite often see officers that aren’t too fit! (No offence to anyone who sees this!!!)
I haven’t had many good encounters/experiences with police at all!!!
They are just grumpy 😠 and bored 😑, which is why they always disturb people (My opinion!)
It is so sad to see young people being brainwashed by our country and people who run it!!!
AND THATS IN MANY WAYS!!!
(My opinion!!!)
I’m feeling very sorry that I’ve seen this video now as I won’t stop going on and on about it!!!
Anyway, I have heard and seen many videos where station people get annoyed/grumpy and ask you not to film and or kick u off the station!!!
They are all generally corrupt, including all of our police, ambos, hospitals, and fire fighting services!!!
(MY OPINION!!!!)
Now that’s enough out of me, I’m sorry 😞 I brought all this up, but it’s always good to get things out of your head!!!
Thankyou for posting this on UA-cam, I would have done the same!!!
Enjoy you time!!!
Whole of government is corrupt and don't give a toss about the people. Look around.
@@fyiaustralia9686 yes 👍!!!
I must say, you are very smart with all this, how do you know so much??? I’m only just starting to get into this, but I’ve learnt a lot already and have heard and even experienced a lot of things that shouldn’t have happened!!!
I’m actually starting to study a lot about government stuff, and what they are trying to do, that they shouldn’t be trying to do!!!
I’m actually very happy that you are very into all this, well, by the sounds of it you are!!!
(My opinion!)
I’m looking at creating a new channel about Australia and stuff that is happening that shouldn’t be, if you know what I mean???!!!
Stay strong mate!!!
@@SutherlandTrainSpotting ua-cam.com/video/xmN3p0GrDjo/v-deo.html
Looks like armadale station in perth
Every city has its "unique" communities.
all that was started by a public servant who has no idea of the law
no expectation of privacy in public
keep training the idiots
He's violent, sociopathic, and obsessed with "protecting" children. Uh huh.
And it was someone else's child too - weird.
Also the staff the right to ask you to leave even if it's a public place. Plus your lottering
Why would you record people you you don't know anyway? I agree with the man.
It's legal in a public place.
@@fyiaustralia9686 I get it. But you have to admit, filming complete strangers is a bit weird. I Understand his thing. But you have to respect the privacy of another person escpecially if that person is dead set on not being filmed
@@69VFVAL Have a look in the description to the video under "Filming in public places". There is no privacy in a public place. Don't take my word - follow the links and check out the law yourself.
I just think it's weird to record, by yourself, filming with a camera is strange. I believe that it's the law but come on. Use some grey matter
I think it's weird you sitting there spending so much time complaining on a YT comment section.
Unless u are using it for commercial use you not aloud to film the stations as for the cow in the the white Sydney trains outfit she has no exception for asking to delete the footage if she does not want to be filmed get rid of the CCTV out of the stations then as for the police u should make a complaint against the male officer for failing I’d himself and both failing to take your statement over the assault u received.
Photography is legal in public spaces.
Thinks his a big tough adlay saying his going to smash him this and that, but in the same breath saying “call the police I’m going to have you charged” gahahaha weak gronk hope to see you around
Unlawful direction. You weren’t doing anything wrong.
They filtered my last comment but on ya lad for standing up for your rights and knowing your law👍
Bet the younger lad wouldn’t have done it to someone tougher
I’d like to meet the younger lad let’s see if a 42 year old cerebral palsy lad that grew up in lethridge park mindoro place Can school the young lad 90s style 🤯
Thanks mt druitt you made me tough for a disabled person 💗🇦🇺🇮🇪💪👍
why were u recording the station to begin with
I'm into documentaries.
“Can u please protect me” 😂
A test of their integrity.
Policies don't Trump laws! keep up the good work mate!
i tell them the same thing & if u force Policies & there feeling over the law then u asking for a lawsuit & ur job good luck also if u trespass or arresting me then ur ass joining me as will cuz now u ask to get in trouble
Policies are law u moron
Aren't people horrible... stop filming people and get a life ffs stop causing trouble!
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My thoughts! Lol
@@metalheadsmurf2835 honestly! Then the audacity to try and ring the police?? I know who I'd be arresting... smh
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Oh, yeah.
What a TERRIBLE thing to do to others.
They'll be TRAUMATIZED for the rest of their days from being on the dude's camera .
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@@2NDFLB-CLERK ewww u sound like one of those perves that like to be filmed smh
Wow, I thought the American scene was bad. The depths of ignorance on people's freedoms here in Australia is astounding
For sure, too many of us don't realise the freedom to film in public places.
Australians don't pluralise words like "freedom".
It's MT Druitt what do you expect. Anyway you have the right to film. But always be careful
Mt Druitt.... so much heavy metals in the water system...
special man cant even swallow his spit properly
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LOL!😂😅
The real slow shady is paranoid asf
"I'm going to need your name" 😂😂😂 weak AF
“Can you protect me please” 😂
@@AusRapArchive the guy just went in there just to be a nuisance he brought it on himself and got a reality check it could of been alot worse considering it was at mt druitt
@@peterivan4556 yeah I could imagine the creepy pressence he would have, even professional filmers and photographers have courtesy to an extent, and explain what they are filming not being fwits trying to argue whether it’s a public place or not ahha
I think this is an issue of legality V respect. I don't see anything wrong with walking around filming. I think these types of videos will become very interesting and valuable in decades time, I watch videos of random places and everyday life from the 80s, 70s etc. Like a living time capsule.
Legally, you can film in public as you don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place. Didn't seem to be filming any particular person or following any one around, until that guy became confrontational. Maybe the objectors would have a case if one particular person was singled out for filming, arguably harassment.
People may think its weird to film nothing in particular, but films of everyday life will become very interesting in decades time.
Thanks for seeing it as it was - just a glimpse of life.
It's a public place. It should've ended there
If they'd ignored the guy with a camera, things would have finished up pretty quickly.
policy is not law .... you where not only threatened with violence you where assaulted several times according to this footage
True. I said to the police that policy is not the law.
The female cop handled it very well actually
edit: at the start... then it went to shit. sad.
The policewoman told you to leave then 10 seconds later all of a sudden she wants your details lol
No-one is under any legal obligation to "assist police with their enquiries".
Foolish thing to do. Antagonizing people in Mt. Druitt of all places, simply to try and make a point.
Yes, filming is not illegal unless someone is "indecent", but you still run the risk of being assaulted.
Don't do this again.
Stay hungry, stay foolish.
@@fyiaustralia9686dude you could gotten stabbed one day
People film on and around Circular Quay station. and on the wharves and ferries. Staff, cops ,people don't give a rats...
While we can still film freely, we should.👍
I think tourist areas are better to as well. Mt Druitt is a very bad area.
He wasn't harrasing. It's not his fault. He is correct there is no law such as that. NICE VIDEO (btw new subscriber LOL)
Female cop says she doesnt want to be photographed catching a train but there are probably 30 cameras at the station.....
Full grown eshay
Good work mate, i wish i didnt allow the pricks to wind me up. They love to agitate, hut they weren't too bad really. Apart from trying to id you unlawfully and lying about having authority they dont have.
Same type of thing happened to me 8 7 2023 but I was asked to leave a public Amtrak station in Wisconsin cuz of The station agent , who was only a volunteer , was "nervous" of my vehicle parked in the parking stall . I was taking pictures of trains when they went by.... oh my God everybody ....
Does policy of a public train station override law?
No. But the police always side with the government.
My God ....its PUBLIC transport....says it all.....
Is it just Mt. Druitt train station who acts like this, cause what if people wanna do a vlog. I get it the residents are going through tough times but you're not harming them so there's no need for them to go off at you bro
Thanks!
In Australia they have rights to record public. In USA is freedom. Good day mate
Harsh.
You can record where ever u want ????? It's a law inforced by court
It's legal to record in a public place.
I have seen someone being interacted by the police for mostly the same thing but the police were kind enough to get the person who was swearing and getting physical contact and gave him a fine of $250. I know it sounds wrong but don't ask me why!
Lucky the perpetrator was caught!
You’re not in America pal. We have no bill of rights.
He has a point you zoomed in on that young girl and focused in the whole time on her
No he didn't. He didn't zoom in anyone especially not on any child.
@@johnm84 your right, I never said child.
7:27 think that’s acceptable this man is a deprayed nonce
Honestly they may be crackheads having a go at him but fair enough for doing it. Must be sick in the head if u just walk around a train station filming people.
He was sick in the head harassing somebody.
Her name is Rudolph 😂😂
Not allowed to film at qld train stations..