@@just_an_elli i wouldnt of watched any of it were it not for the time stamp Clicks dont do much for channels, its more about having people watch most of the video
@@BrockBreedingintheHoennRegionjust because you don't like Samus doesn't mean everyone hates her. Heck, even for you this shouldn't matter because every person who stops playing Samus will just start playing Dark Samus instead.
Samus didnt change, the only thing that could happen is darksamus going up, but this is so minor it wont change a thing. (Also it's an already known property of lightning so thats nothing new)
The Samus/DarkSamus thing is the result of a universal mechanic, electric effect hitboxes inflict more hitstun. I don't know the exact details but you can see it in other electric hitboxes
All of Dark Samus' electric attacks have more stun including Charge Shot If you're wondering how much its a range of 1-5 frames more if I remember correctly for Charge Shot depending on the charge level
The extra stun you take for hitting an eletric attack against a sheild isnt just limited to dark samus, is also applys to both the chus and dr mario just to name a few
3:37 I don’t understand why more Villagers don’t play like this. You can literally recover from *anywhere,* there’s no excuse to *not* go for the deep edgeguards
while he can recover from most places at high - top level, going for edgegaurds like these in most matchups and having it miss is a death sentence at any % as his recovery is still very exploitable, he has stronger ledge traping tools anyway, which is much safer and can still do high dmg or even kill.
Samus final smash is also worse because of the jetpack on her back it has a tiny fire hitbox that is replaced with a windbox towards the attack on dark samus
I haven't been watching smash content for a while. Its nice after nearly a year of being away, viewing your stuff feels the same. I know 100k was important for you. Look forward to 500k and maybe 1 day 1 mil. Love you guys!
To be fair, the only FE fans that use MCorrin are the ones who want a self-insert power fantasy... ... our who want to ship themselves with the female characters.
I prefer Male Corrin. He's a pocket of mine but I enjoy using him mainly because I like his alts. Personal preference. Plus, I usually play male counterparts of characters because I'm a guy.
The Daisy patch was terrible. If they really didn't want Daisy and Peach to be different characters, then they should've just made them alt skins, like how Ike has his younger and older selves, or like every newer Fire Emblem MC.
@tacticixn Sadly in her current state, she is a glorified skin for Peach, given the fact that her changes were reverted on like the second patch so she is identical to Peach in all but skin and voice.
@@jasonkeith2832Honestly Nintendo really dropped the ball with echo fighters. It was a golden opportunity to take existing move sets and remix them for easy new characters, but instead they just copy pasted, added a few new effects and animations in and called it a day.
Not the brawl chomp and dump not once not twice but three times in tournament? I would assume someone at that level would had not taken the bait let alone three times. Also if this zoom thing was found earlier it would had been patch out to make the two characters more identical as they had done with the princesses.
I once ran into a Bayo on Elite Smash who was so good that I actually got Smash 4’d from 0. All the way from center stage to the top blast zone. This character wasn’t nerfed hard enough.
Dark Samus has always had a *slight* edge over Samus with kill power because of that electric effect. It makes multi-hits like upsmash actually connect the hits together more frequently, so upsmash actually can get kills!
First and last video I'll watch from this guys..... how is that Samus Dif is at the end.. with an intro loaded with a bunch of BS I'm not interested in -_- C'mon...
11:23 for the Samus and Dark Samus differences
🎉
Of course they put the title of the video in the last minute. This type of stuff is why I stopped watching these guy
@@VetriVade Obviously not, you clicked on this video 😅
@@just_an_elli i wouldnt of watched any of it were it not for the time stamp
Clicks dont do much for channels, its more about having people watch most of the video
Thank You, You save our time...
Samus going down on the tier list after this 😢
Why would you be sad about that??? Lol what?
@@BrockBreedingintheHoennRegionjust because you don't like Samus doesn't mean everyone hates her. Heck, even for you this shouldn't matter because every person who stops playing Samus will just start playing Dark Samus instead.
Because she's a woman?
Samus didnt change, the only thing that could happen is darksamus going up, but this is so minor it wont change a thing. (Also it's an already known property of lightning so thats nothing new)
Nah, D. Samus was inferior due to slightly more vulnerable posture.
This evens it up
6:29 Looney Tunes ahh moment
"Oh, soups...!"
The Samus/DarkSamus thing is the result of a universal mechanic, electric effect hitboxes inflict more hitstun. I don't know the exact details but you can see it in other electric hitboxes
Eletric attack are also plus on shield so if someone blocks your screwed
Electric = paralysis
Many games give electricity a stun affix.
All of Dark Samus' electric attacks have more stun including Charge Shot
If you're wondering how much its a range of 1-5 frames more if I remember correctly for Charge Shot depending on the charge level
The extra stun you take for hitting an eletric attack against a sheild isnt just limited to dark samus, is also applys to both the chus and dr mario just to name a few
@@mr.curtis6730 no they arent. bro is lying
finally a difference between the echo fighters
Another more commonly known difference between samus and dark samus is that dark samus has a higher acceleration
@@tylerplays123game9also less traction bc she’s floating so a harder time pushing heavier opponents.
Dark Samus also hits lower with up smash, so she can scoop Pikachu for example in situations Samus couldn't.
Dark samus uses electric attacks while Samus uses fire attacks
Ken: “Am I a joke to you?”
3:37 I don’t understand why more Villagers don’t play like this. You can literally recover from *anywhere,* there’s no excuse to *not* go for the deep edgeguards
while he can recover from most places at high - top level, going for edgegaurds like these in most matchups and having it miss is a death sentence at any % as his recovery is still very exploitable, he has stronger ledge traping tools anyway, which is much safer and can still do high dmg or even kill.
3:29 Stylish Combo! Glamorous Stage.
The intros are back
Mario with the melee shiek forward air
Samus final smash is also worse because of the jetpack on her back it has a tiny fire hitbox that is replaced with a windbox towards the attack on dark samus
I haven't been watching smash content for a while. Its nice after nearly a year of being away, viewing your stuff feels the same.
I know 100k was important for you. Look forward to 500k and maybe 1 day 1 mil. Love you guys!
That last clip is actually really cool to think about mario vs. Doc as well
Treating us well with an intro
Final clips lately have been fire god damn
I like how we've reached a point where male Corrin basically doesn't exist in the eyes of smash players
I know, such a shame they only gave Corrin 4 skins.
To be fair, the only FE fans that use MCorrin are the ones who want a self-insert power fantasy...
... our who want to ship themselves with the female characters.
Tbh I use male corrin bcbI think is cute
Like in a soft way
I prefer Male Corrin. He's a pocket of mine but I enjoy using him mainly because I like his alts. Personal preference. Plus, I usually play male counterparts of characters because I'm a guy.
@@Styxiami Yeah except Male Corrin is literally the biggest twink in Smash I’d go as far to say FCorrin is more manly than he is lmao
INTROS R BACK BABYYYYYYYYYYY!!! That wat we’ve been waiting for!!!!!
2:19 forgot I did that 💀
You guys could upload a compilation of all your intros and it would blow up in views, they’re seriously so charming.
Yoooo the themed intros are back LET'S GOOOO
LETS GO INTROOOOS
Thanks for showing my clip !
GOAT
0:37 OOHHH
Lest goo new intro ❤
Here I am for the weekly Beefy Smash Doods video.
10:01 it's pretty intuitive to do this. you can react.
Love the skits guys
Actually burst out laughing at the intro gag 🤣
The bob omb battlefield intro slaps
It was always known, we never knew why but it was always known that Dark Samus >>> Samus. 🗿
Can't wait for the random new update to fix this difference (Daisy PTSD)
Its joever now
The Daisy patch was terrible. If they really didn't want Daisy and Peach to be different characters, then they should've just made them alt skins, like how Ike has his younger and older selves, or like every newer Fire Emblem MC.
@@jasonkeith2832daisy is too cool to be a skin
@tacticixn Sadly in her current state, she is a glorified skin for Peach, given the fact that her changes were reverted on like the second patch so she is identical to Peach in all but skin and voice.
@@jasonkeith2832Honestly Nintendo really dropped the ball with echo fighters. It was a golden opportunity to take existing move sets and remix them for easy new characters, but instead they just copy pasted, added a few new effects and animations in and called it a day.
No way are the intros back ? 😭
You get a like JUST for that opening skit ALONE 😂 love you guys
6:52 yes I'm sure that's how wind works 😂
Wii fit volleyball homes onto characters' heads
Random side question for the doods, are you guys playing (or planning to cover) 2XKO?
Yes, we do!
@@vyq6014 dope! would love to see you guys cook duos, even if its on your side channel haha
this is the longest I've ever had to wait to see the thing in the title of the video
Not the brawl chomp and dump not once not twice but three times in tournament? I would assume someone at that level would had not taken the bait let alone three times. Also if this zoom thing was found earlier it would had been patch out to make the two characters more identical as they had done with the princesses.
I love it when teams figure out broken doubles strats
2:55 He's got that DAWG in him.
In retrospect giving mewtwo's tail a hitbox for fsmash would've been pretty cool
yesssss missed the intros
Is it the way they look 😮
I love the silly corny intro skits. Always gets me to smile.
I knew dark samus was better 🤓
Link has Bomb Recovery. Duck Hunt has Bean Recovery. That was nuts!
I once ran into a Bayo on Elite Smash who was so good that I actually got Smash 4’d from 0.
All the way from center stage to the top blast zone.
This character wasn’t nerfed hard enough.
Just SDI
@@tyrania2645 I DID
AND I AM NOT JOHNING RIGHT NOW
I like how the skits are a jump scare now cause I am not expecting them lol
I was literally thinking about your skits. Glad you guys are having fun. I watch every episode.
Mwah cheers from Florida
Dark Samus has always had a *slight* edge over Samus with kill power because of that electric effect. It makes multi-hits like upsmash actually connect the hits together more frequently, so upsmash actually can get kills!
Feels so good to see an intro again.
This is like that one time we found a difference for Peach and Daisy
Other than Daisy being objectively better of course
I don't even fuck with Ultimate anymore and haven't for a long time, but I always find myself with time to watch the Doods~
i like to play more with dark samus then samus
11:59 was my favorite! That was worth it ngl!
Why every smash review is a masterpiece
What was the song during the final clip?
Jesus, those were some REALLY sick clips there!
One is dark, the other not
Good episode as always fellas. I gotta try the bayo and brawler combo!!
If they’re not gonna change certain echos in any significant way, can they at least change Daisy’s turnips back to pre-version 3.0?
Nope. No more patches. Period.
@@owenduffy5745I know. Just can’t stand the fact Daisy’s a glorified skin. Even more so because she started off with an actual difference
@@BuilderJr. Same
If you have more hit stun, doesn’t that give you more of a chance to DI?
this remindsme of the little difference that daisy had over peach, and suddenly got patched to be the same 💀
What's the name of the song used at 6:05
stardust speedway (act 2) from sonic mania
Gotta love when we get an occasional silly opening agian.
No one gonna talk about Terry doing two up-Bs back to back around 6:32?
we don't need the intros, but i missed them a lot,
Glad to see they aren't gone for good at least
I wish tournaments would show the players in game tag next to their name so I can tell who I'm actually watching.
Steve breaking the game or its mechanics, could have never seen that coming
OKAY GUYS you got my first like to your channel thanks to the SM64 teleport joke. I loved it!!!! So silly yet so realistic hahahaha
shoutouts to german smash doods ✌
7:10 Lame. Just a ledge camping Wario with stock advantage, no balls.
12-minute Smash Review. It's over
You guys should have streamed supernova on this channel
5 years, no updates and the games meta is still changing
I havent played Smash in quite a while, can sm1 explain to me why Terry has 2 Up Bs here? 6:27
He only used one? Idk what ur talking about
@@taco_overlordomg I thought his double jump was an Up-b 💀 Now that I look at it again
ive looked at it like 3 times and I was so confused how he has 2 Up Bs, but now it makes sense 😭
TLDR; Dark Samus Side Smash has more hitstun on the final hit.
2:55 duck hunt tpose
Further proof that no matter how good I get with Samus I still can't kill with her
I've always loved their silly intros.
INTROS ARE BACK!!!!!
8:59 Elden Crow (the falco player) actually up smash the Deox6 (the byleth player) down smash 👍
Let’s go the goofy intros are back!😂
I could watch that bayo brawler wombo all day.
Echo Fighters have many differences, but the naysaying contrarian community refuse to verify the differences for some oddball reason.
I missed the intro skits
Doesn't this also mean Dark Samus has more hitlag?
The editing was so funny
2:30 How can you do that with Mewtwo??? 💀
Intro!!! ❤️
Daisy and her grand total of 0 differences: 🥲
Sad, but unfortunately true
First and last video I'll watch from this guys..... how is that Samus Dif is at the end.. with an intro loaded with a bunch of BS I'm not interested in -_- C'mon...
you guys done another skit compilation?
Love the intro.
bruh the bayo/brawler doubles team is disgusting lmao insane
I missed the intros so much i had to rewind to make sure I wasn't seeing things
Kirby and Shulk > Bayonetta and Mii Brawler
the samus' were not standing in the same spot
Im allways here 4 da villager clip
Awesome Smash video!
6:07 I don’t get what’s being shown in this clip
Steve can avoid being punished for a shield break by falling off a block
it's showing counterplay like literally what they said