I know Hannah didn't deserve what happened to her, but isn't it concerning that she knew that Mike was dating Emily and yet she still went for the opportunity to hook up with him. The prank was a little bit too much though, and she and Beth didn't deserve to die.
I think the entire friend group seems to have problems simply due to Mike's existence. Not even sure why he was hanging out with a bunch of high schoolers when he's in college.
I actually like the remake, I just don’t like the new soundtracks and the removal of sound effects because the original had all of those and it made the game more scary and exciting. The music really elevated the scenes and I hate how they removed the sound effect when Emily says, “I’m sorry, what?” After Ashley reveals the bite doesn’t do anything.
they had to do the same thing with the dead space remake. the guns don't sound as good but at least in the dead space remake they did a good job copying the original music and sounds
How dare this remake remove the classic and iconic Oh Death opening song, even the Dark Pictures Anthology games would never not have that song in the opening credits!
Someone told me there was a streaming version that replaces the songs for streaming only. That way the content creator doesn’t get a copyright strike or w/e. I know they did that for the dead rising remake but I don’t know if it’s the same case here
They don’t have the rights anymore. I believe SuperMassive own the rights to those songs. What’s interesting is Sony owns the right for the Until Dawn franchise.
I think the only thing that really freaking bothers me is the removal of the old soundtrack and sound effects, the new ost is so bland and doesn’t elevate the scenes at all, the original music was pretty iconic actually and definitely enhanced the entire experience and the vibe overall, this one makes it feel quite odd and anticlimactic and forgettable especially during intense scenes , it also feels oddly out out of place at times
It feels like maybe there was licensing issues for the soundtrack? At least for o'death song because otherwise I have no clue why you would remove it here
his saw-like torture solely targeted three people, two of which had nothing to do with the prank. if josh wanted to get his revenge on those who hurted his sisters, he should've put jess, emily and mike in his "game", not his best friend who was asleep with him that night, and not his sister's best friend who actually warned hannah that she was being pranked. but josh traumatized the hell out of the people who genuinely cared about him and his sisters. the fact josh did all THAT to those who are innocent and only wanted to help him 💀
@@fridgrave he literally planned to record jess and mike having sex to upload the vid on the internet which is worse than what he did to the rest, + also planned something for emily and matt but he couldn't because of the wendigos.
@@sempiternels i'm in the fandom for 6 years and it's literally the first time i hear about it. is this added to the remaster version??? bc in og game i don't remember anything like that at all (and if josh had a camera that was filming the cabin live, he would've see jess being taken by wendigo and stop the prank)
I love how in the beginning when Mike and Jess are walking around you can hear the wendigo mimicking Beth and Hannah yelling for each other -- not sure if this was in the OG, I can't remember, but it's a really awesome detail either way. (1:20:04 for an example of Beth calling for Hannah; 1:21:54 for an example of Hannah calling for Beth)
Are we sure that’s not animal noises ? It sounds like a wolf. But it doesn’t sound like it’s saying “Hannah” mostly “Beth” but that would make sense cuz the main wendigo in the woods IS Hannah so I’m unsure. But I think that’s a great catch :)
@laurenlesley6081 the creatures mimic the voices of others. That's why Ashley thought she heard Jess calling for her down in the mines, the Wendigo Hannah was mimicking her.
@alexisbell8712 Maybe Sam felt like Hannah would be better around Beth and then Sam would wait for to come back to the lodge but stalked buy a wendigo.
@jaslinvega7272 maybe Sam felt that Hannah would of been better with but in the remake we get an ending of Sam that takes a place a few years after what happened with josh's prank and the wendigo's because after that she might have a little bit of PTSD so maybe we'll get a 2nd game.
Yall really like to complain lol. They don’t have the licensing/rights to the og song . Listen to it during the credits if you want it that bad. Or just don’t watch. We got a lot of extra stuff and some plotholes filled. This game got me through a really rough time and I’m so happy they cared enough to remaster it. And I can’t wait to play it again myself.
I think I would consider this a remake because there are a lot of scenes and dialogue that I do NOT remember in the og. A remaster would just fix what's already there not adding all new dialogue and scenes.
Considering I paid to play the game I think I would have valid criticism to say whatever I want. We don't complain enough that's why the gaming industry is going shit.
Matt and Emily are probably the most toxic pair in the game. She's always trying to argue against whatever he says or how he operates even when it's a good idea. She's impulsive, whiney, complainant, hot tempered and doesn't seem to care for him much at all.
When I first played this game in 2019, I immediately chose to shoot her. 5 years later, and hundreds of additional playthroughs of exercising EVERY outcome I could think of, I still never made Emily leave that room alive. I built up a reflex from how many times I've chosen to shoot her, that I can automatically twitch barley a muscle and already blow her head off. Even after I knew he first time the bite did nothing, she was such an obnoxious character and in my headcanon, she had to die. Somebody had to pay for what happened to Hannah and Beth, and it was her. Now, 5 years later, I can do it again and again with the remake. I literally have to watch playthroughs to see how the game changes if you don't shoot her, because never in my 300+ playthroughs has that girl made it out of the ski resort alive.
I like how the new intro shows Jess and Em ganging up on Sam. I think they improved on that mean girl persona. which I think makes it better when we see just how much Jess has changed after her attack and how little survival chances she has. its sweet karma. Still, I love Jessica so she always survives for me.
I was seriously thinking they'd go the other direction at least with Jess? I thought they'd make her more sympathetic in this game and show more screentime with her and Matt. :/ I didn't really expect this.
@@Angel_Auraa Heh they just prevented us from skipping this scene and forgetting again that Jess was the one who started this all and that she's a shitty person and friend. It's a good thing they did because everyone always pinned everything on Em when she was fucked over by her best friend and was rightfully angry and resentful. Making Jess nicer would have contradicted that and the cliché she represented
@@ondiiina Are we gonna forget the fact, that emily use matt as a toy all the game and, behind his back, went to see mike and gaslight him about it, I would argue that em is even more a piece of shit, cause jessica look more sensible and open after the event of the sisters, but em still a bitch.
@@Angel_Auraa To be honest, that's what she deserves. Jess and Mike are literally terrible people and I don't know why people like them. I think It's all because they're attractive.
@@Lale_Canfeda They're very flawed people (like most of characters) but the game does a good job of making them sympathetic. Jess is immature (I mean, she's in highschool) and really insecure and hides it behind a Mean Girl facade, but she also has a dorky and quite sweet side too underneath. She really goes through it in Until Dawn too and comes out of it very different. Mike is a complete jerk at the start and makes a lot of mistakes, but has a hero's journey in the game. He's one of the most willing to risk his life and help his friends when it comes down to it. And Sam, who isn't a fan of him at the start, can respect him by the end of the game.
I mean Jess was the one being all like "I'm just looking out for my girl Em." Then later after Mike and Emily broke up, she jumped to the opportunity. Like saying Hannah deserves the prank is rich coming from her. What an "opportunist".
It was always jess who did the prank even in the original people just did not pay enough attention to understand that or missed it in the remake they made it so you can't miss it i am actually glad they made it like this
Yeah I feel like Sam and Josh also have the potential of reuniting in the sequel that's been announced. I feel like we're getting a sequel and a Dead By Daylight crossover.
14:05 being humiliated and the feeling of betrayal from people you consider your friends can be some of the worst pain. Dante's ninth or last circle of hell is for those guilty of treachery and betrayal towards loved ones, close friends, their country, and their masters.
@@randallezno3055 it's a saying, also you aren't owed those things, no one is. You have to get them yourself. And yes you can choose your country, don't like where you live become a worthwhile person and emigrate.
Am I the only one thinking that the facial expressions are creepier than the actual supernatural shit going on? Like why does this facial animation looks so terrible. I don’t remember the facial expressions looking this bad in the original. Maybe it’s just me
lmao it got me too bro! The worst part is that I didn't get to that part I clicked on the timestamp and was ready for something and still jumped a bit lol
To this day I’m still not sure why Sam told them to go to the mines in the og . Honestly that mountain should be closed off for freaking ever and guarded with it being illegal to go up. Problem more or less solved
I think she just wanted them to find Josh, and also for their rescuers to believe them (which they clearly didn't). But, also, I don't think she or any of the other characters were thinking straight in the interviews. I mean, they're still covered in blood and dirt, suggesting they were immediately interrogated instead of taken to a hospital.
in the final scene where Sam is escaping the house to blow it up, it really feels like Hannah's just saving her best friend from that one Wendigo trying to reach her out, kinda cool.
It's really too bad they couldn't approach Rami Malek and co for a film adaptation when they were the same age as when they did this game. Would've been perfect casting lol.
am i the only one, but im kind of disappointed hannah didnt have any new voice lines? why is there most of the time awkward silence where she could talk
i don’t understand why josh spent so much time fucking with chris when chris was passed out with him when the prank happened i thought josh’s motive was to make the people involved in prank pay
TLDR WARNING! I’m gonna complain about something that I don’t see others having enough of an issue with. It’s a fun game. Absolutely a great time. But we have to talk about the “lore” issues. The biggest problem …. There is no way, absolutely never, in any really, would they have the character listed as “Hannah’s best friend”, EVER stand by and allow that kind of “prank” to happen. That is RIDICULOUS. Sam simply saying “don’t you guys think this is a little cruel”, and THATS IT? It wasn’t a prank! It was assault. Filming someone, a minor no less, and yes even if the one filming is a minor, falls under revenge p***. Setting someone up in a sexual situation under false pretenses is assault. To not bb only knowingly let it happen, and then not chase after her once it did …. not only flies in the face of the kind of person we are meant to believe Sam is, but then to make her main description as “Hanna’s best friend” is insulting. Which begs the question … why have Sam in the situation at ALL? Josh and Chris were passed out drunk which means that where they were and what they were doing during the “prank” has no bearing on the overall plot or butterfly effect. So WTF? What was the point of having Sam in the room? Next issue ~ another unbelievable plot point is that Hannah willingly ran to Mike to “make out”, which somehow meant she immediately starts to unbutton her shirt, while not only in a house full of her friends, but also her brother and sister and Mike’s GF? You could MAYBE say she was drunk. But even then … it makes no sense. So at this point, the only thing you can do is create a backstory, that maybe he’s been leading her on or toying with her and they already have somewhat of a history. But still …. it makes no sense. Plus it is very much implied this is a first and Jess is doing this to simply back up her friend Jess, because Hannah has a “crush”. The entire prank portion of the game was embarrassing and the writing was awful. Again …. fun game. But this is always bothered me as it is 😬 AF.
@ I completely agree. But that wasn’t my point. I’m saying that Sam didn’t need to be there when it happened. And her letting it happen makes no sense.
How can Chris watch his best friend die and be so calm telling Ashley not to look. He could really handle and step up during bad moments. I would’ve been crying and throwing up holy shit
Dude this shows what they can do. I really hope they put in this kind of work for the dark anthology stories. The remake shows they can improve on what they made, and I hope they can go like this from the ground up for the next season of the Dark Anthology. The Graphics, mechanics, and the gameplay shown here is what the Dark Anthology needs, I play co-op with my brother as well for all of them and they def improved on the co-ops mechanics as well for the devil in me. It's not "perfect" but they were getting there. Hope the next season or whatever for the game comes out with this kind of energy.
Honestly buddy if thish is how there doing there remakes I don't want man of medan to be remastered in less the charters move better facial animations don't look weird sticks to the original story well adding new things not making the lighting effects feel off some scenes are to dark and keep the orginal soundtrack to the game final fantasy 7 remake can do thish why cant movie games do thish life is strange suffers from thish as well og is better windigo sounds better as well and the sound effects but yea i havent seen a movie remake do it right yet all thish versions got is better graphics every thing else is a no for me
I really love the story of this game since its original, I cant believe that they make a remake of this, I hope to see more dark pictures stories in the coming years
I agree. This story is amazing from the way it feels like a slasher horror film and then shifts to the supernatural and really uses the butterfly effect so heavily. It’s just so fun because it’s basically an interactive movie and I love watching tons of gameplays to see all the different outcomes
I've been watchin alot of your walkthroughs, & this is my first time commenting on your channel, & you're an absolute beast!!! & Thanks for the experience of awesome gameplay bro!! 💪🏾😎💯🔥🔥🔥🔥
From what I have seen so far.. There are a few added scenes. I haven't been following the development of this game, but does make me wonder if they got some of the cast back for a few new scenes.
I read The Quarry was supposed to have been Until Dawn 2 when it was in development and then something happened and the rights to Until Dawn got pulled from Supermassive Games so they ended up rewriting the story.
I feel like they made the don’t move sections in the remake waaaaaay easier than the original, felt like you had to actually “not move” in the original, compared to a bar that runs out when you move too much in the remake.
There’s so many little contextual details added that are amazing in this. Your choices in it made me sad bc it damned Josh and Josh is honestly so funny. :/
no offense these comments are kinda why u should still play games u watch streamers play. so many comments about the lack of music dont realize its probably in streamer mode. also came here to see if u dropped hannah would that change anything cause that wouldve acually been cool
Taking “Oh Death” out of the opening is a huge L. Also why did they take out the Previously on Until Dawn highlights away in between chapters? Made it feel like you were watching an actually show on Netflix or something. Removing the blue tint the otiginal had seems like a mistake too. Not very impressed so far, not gonna lie.
Omg, did anyone notice the Makkapitew looking at Beth at 16:15 before it knocks the shelf? The eyes on the right side in the dark. It seems to disappear when Beth looks up right before the flamethrower comes. That's an incredible addition.
@@dwcyrusm.4127 Now that I turned the vid to the highest resolution to check it again, it appears that I've been mistaken. They're just holes in the wall. My bad :(
It sucks how little we got to play as Matt and Jess, considering they had so much potential. I watched the whole 6 hours and I felt like the amount of times we played as them is equal to an 1.30 at best.
Many changes I don't like Not sure what to think about the 3rd person camera angle compared to old. The new soundtrack is dogshit. Also some of the sound effects are inferior. They should do what Resident evil remakes have done and have the option to select the old soundtrack & sfx. Maybe the camera too. I'm sure the PC community will make these mods in no time
2:02:20 You can see the deer phase through the rock lmao. The remake looks good though, the new character models are great, the fog effects are nicer and most of the lighting is much better (but imo should be lighter in some scenes and darker in others). The new scenes are nice and they've improved some camera angles but did ruin others. But, I loved the original, even with all its issues, so I might pick this up.
Until Dawn is a good game and I can say enough to people that you must get Song of Horror. Don’t let the name fool you it’s amazing. Good graphics great story fixed camera angles, multiple characters to choose from what you do carries over into each chapter affecting the outcome of the ending. I highly recommend people play this hidden gem
So they remade this game just to let you have better 3rd person control and upgraded the graphics just barely ?? And charging $60 for it ??? What a joke!!! Pathetic by Sony
I must say; this recent game with better features, scenes and incredible complexity are underrated! Once again, thanks for sharing with us MKIceAndFire.
Original was perfect, those background musics gave us full of fear and thrill. This one is not scary at all! I don’t even feel i am watching a horror game😑
i remember in the original if you give matt the flare gun he shoots it in the air but then has a second shot when he crosses paths with the wendigo. he only can use it to save himself if he choose to disagree with Emily at the ski lift and go back to the lodge.
People keep saying the old soundtrack is iconic, and I just have no recollection of it at all. Been a few years since I played the game, maybe ya’ll just revisited it more often than I did. But the music and sound design feel fine to me in the remake.
I forget this is a video game sometime 34:00 he’s literally pointing a loaded shotgun at one of the characters. His finger is not on the trigger, but nonetheless don’t point a loaded weapon at somebody.
$60 and barely no changes and no upgrade path Music sucks especially when being chased And an extra ending that doesn’t mean anything Buggy Qte button prompts sounds are too low and boring and the don’t move button is no longer blue just white Lighting in areas look off it should be dark and blue for example early game.
There are various changes, lighting being one of them. You can like an artist look more than another but they did make the lighting more believable. Especially because they purposely darkened things in the original to hide some rough edges. Models are drastically better, much higher fidelity, better performance, and more scenes were added in. While I agree the no upgrade path is disappointing, I guess my question is would it have mattered to you?? For "barely no changes" I mean. Or if there was an upgrade path let's say $10 would you feel more positive towards it and acknowledge the upgrades more?
The extra ending is hinting at a sequel, so I'm all for it! I love Sam! And there's also actually a different ending for Josh too. You can properly save him. So if there's a sequel, he could appear in it too. :)
@@TheTardisDreamer He would have appeared anyways as he canonically beats the wendigo. The entire spin-off VR game is a sequel that takes place in his mind and is him fighting off the possession and healing from it. THAT is the more interesting route for his character too. Like between that and a normal Josh (since he'd be taking his meds again), the choice is easy. It makes him a lot more interesting!
@@ondiiina the vr game is called Until Dawn: Rush of Blood, and at the end, it shows the scene of him from the og Until Dawn as a wendigo, not "beating the curse and healing", just from his perspective of looking up to the people trying to rescue him and then him charging at them like when he "lives" in the og. The game in it's entirety is what Josh sees before that moment, more accurately, hallucinates, due to his mental issues
I love how they added new scene I remember this all and rewashed the old one now that I watched this the cutscene are different like at the beginning in the old one they never moved Josh they left him on the table n in the new one they moved him to a couch now that's dope n for who didn't watch this yet I won't say no more
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I know Hannah didn't deserve what happened to her, but isn't it concerning that she knew that Mike was dating Emily and yet she still went for the opportunity to hook up with him. The prank was a little bit too much though, and she and Beth didn't deserve to die.
Right I always felt like this. I don’t think she deserved like the prank but she really needed to get checked.
I felt like the running out in the woods was a bit dramatic but yeah they didn't deserve to die
I think the entire friend group seems to have problems simply due to Mike's existence. Not even sure why he was hanging out with a bunch of high schoolers when he's in college.
@@Angel_Auraa he was in high school when the prank happened no? And their were others in the group who were the same age
@@strawxberry6472 Mike is older than everyone else. It's why he tries to use every single girl for sex. It's a bit icky.
I actually like the remake, I just don’t like the new soundtracks and the removal of sound effects because the original had all of those and it made the game more scary and exciting. The music really elevated the scenes and I hate how they removed the sound effect when Emily says, “I’m sorry, what?” After Ashley reveals the bite doesn’t do anything.
Fr it's so annoying. Why did they change the way the wendigo screams it was so fucking terrifying before.
they had to do the same thing with the dead space remake. the guns don't sound as good but at least in the dead space remake they did a good job copying the original music and sounds
OMG THAT SOUND EFFECT REMOVAL PISSED ME OFF THANK YOU
Man who cares it’s the same game all over again.
@@unknowndrink788no. The new soundtrack is trash, the original one is a masterpiece
Now we know where Emily’s pink bag is, it’s in her car, who would’ve guessed. It’s a cool little detail we didn’t have in the og version.
@@matetakacs1883 and we know what kind of things are in that pink bag 😏
What was in it? @@martins.2100
@@Kyle15672 sex stuff
@@Kyle15672her panties
@@Kyle15672handcuffs and underwear 😭
How dare this remake remove the classic and iconic Oh Death opening song, even the Dark Pictures Anthology games would never not have that song in the opening credits!
i think they lost the rights to all songs
Someone told me there was a streaming version that replaces the songs for streaming only. That way the content creator doesn’t get a copyright strike or w/e. I know they did that for the dead rising remake but I don’t know if it’s the same case here
A very temporary setback, but it seems like this is quite interesting these upgrades
I have the same question! 😡
They don’t have the rights anymore. I believe SuperMassive own the rights to those songs. What’s interesting is Sony owns the right for the Until Dawn franchise.
Doing the lords work having an entire gameplay in one part not 50 parts and no awful voice commentary
Hate commentary only one i will listen to is theradbrad
Love this game. Got me through horrible car accident with my wife and kids while in the hospital for a few months
Hope all is well now
Hope the recovery is fast🙏🏽
Hope you doing better
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I think the only thing that really freaking bothers me is the removal of the old soundtrack and sound effects, the new ost is so bland and doesn’t elevate the scenes at all, the original music was pretty iconic actually and definitely enhanced the entire experience and the vibe overall, this one makes it feel quite odd and anticlimactic and forgettable especially during intense scenes , it also feels oddly out out of place at times
Absolutely you read my mind! Those soundtracks gave us a thrilled terrifying experiences while this one is child to that
It feels like maybe there was licensing issues for the soundtrack? At least for o'death song because otherwise I have no clue why you would remove it here
@@jessicarose3419 Yeah, I'm betting it was a licensing issue. I doubt they wanted to pay for an entire new soundtrack to be made.
the fact josh did all this because they did tht to his sister he a real one ❤
and they look so clueless as to why he did wat he did 😂
his saw-like torture solely targeted three people, two of which had nothing to do with the prank. if josh wanted to get his revenge on those who hurted his sisters, he should've put jess, emily and mike in his "game", not his best friend who was asleep with him that night, and not his sister's best friend who actually warned hannah that she was being pranked. but josh traumatized the hell out of the people who genuinely cared about him and his sisters. the fact josh did all THAT to those who are innocent and only wanted to help him 💀
@@fridgrave either way he felt a way.. and did wat he did
@@fridgrave he literally planned to record jess and mike having sex to upload the vid on the internet which is worse than what he did to the rest, + also planned something for emily and matt but he couldn't because of the wendigos.
@@sempiternels i'm in the fandom for 6 years and it's literally the first time i hear about it. is this added to the remaster version??? bc in og game i don't remember anything like that at all (and if josh had a camera that was filming the cabin live, he would've see jess being taken by wendigo and stop the prank)
The soundtrack is noticeably less iconic. Really don’t know why they altered the vibe of it so much
It's more atmospheric.
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How is it more atmospheric? It completely killed the vibe it had going on in the original
honestly, looks like a friendly comedy movie you watch with your family or something
1:03:29 ????? why
@@_jad3d The atmospheric aspect of the soundtrack makes it feel more isolated and more claustrophic. The old soundtrack felt stuffy.
I love how in the beginning when Mike and Jess are walking around you can hear the wendigo mimicking Beth and Hannah yelling for each other -- not sure if this was in the OG, I can't remember, but it's a really awesome detail either way.
(1:20:04 for an example of Beth calling for Hannah; 1:21:54 for an example of Hannah calling for Beth)
Damnn how did you even catch these? 😂
i found another one at 57:09 and 57:35
@@GhosteMage there are some later on, too, when it’s Matt and Emily headed for the radio tower, I just noticed!
Are we sure that’s not animal noises ? It sounds like a wolf. But it doesn’t sound like it’s saying “Hannah” mostly “Beth” but that would make sense cuz the main wendigo in the woods IS Hannah so I’m unsure. But I think that’s a great catch :)
@laurenlesley6081 the creatures mimic the voices of others. That's why Ashley thought she heard Jess calling for her down in the mines, the Wendigo Hannah was mimicking her.
All these years and I still don't understand why Sam didn't go after Hannah with Beth. Seems out of character for her.
I agree.
I think it's cause Sam didn't know if she should or not cause she didn't stop the prank and didn't know if she would lash out at her or not
@alexisbell8712 Maybe Sam felt like Hannah would be better around Beth and then Sam would wait for to come back to the lodge but stalked buy a wendigo.
It would’ve been cool if they actually added that to the remake of Sam going after them
@jaslinvega7272 maybe Sam felt that Hannah would of been better with but in the remake we get an ending of Sam that takes a place a few years after what happened with josh's prank and the wendigo's because after that she might have a little bit of PTSD so maybe we'll get a 2nd game.
4:56:00 is what you're looking for.
Actually yes😂
YES! My whole opinion on this remaster was banking on this LOL
THANK YOU I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS
You’re a real one for this 🙏🏼🙏🏼
HOW DID YOU KNOW? lol
THEY CHANGED THE "🤖where's my sister going🤖"
REALLLL i was so proud of that
Yall really like to complain lol. They don’t have the licensing/rights to the og song . Listen to it during the credits if you want it that bad. Or just don’t watch.
We got a lot of extra stuff and some plotholes filled. This game got me through a really rough time and I’m so happy they cared enough to remaster it. And I can’t wait to play it again myself.
I think I would consider this a remake because there are a lot of scenes and dialogue that I do NOT remember in the og. A remaster would just fix what's already there not adding all new dialogue and scenes.
@@hayleyscarberry I agree with you. I just couldn’t get it this month but am excited to play it!
Considering I paid to play the game I think I would have valid criticism to say whatever I want. We don't complain enough that's why the gaming industry is going shit.
Mike running after jessica will never not be badass. I like the new soundtrack over it too.
Matt and Emily are probably the most toxic pair in the game. She's always trying to argue against whatever he says or how he operates even when it's a good idea. She's impulsive, whiney, complainant, hot tempered and doesn't seem to care for him much at all.
When I first played this game in 2019, I immediately chose to shoot her. 5 years later, and hundreds of additional playthroughs of exercising EVERY outcome I could think of, I still never made Emily leave that room alive. I built up a reflex from how many times I've chosen to shoot her, that I can automatically twitch barley a muscle and already blow her head off. Even after I knew he first time the bite did nothing, she was such an obnoxious character and in my headcanon, she had to die. Somebody had to pay for what happened to Hannah and Beth, and it was her.
Now, 5 years later, I can do it again and again with the remake.
I literally have to watch playthroughs to see how the game changes if you don't shoot her, because never in my 300+ playthroughs has that girl made it out of the ski resort alive.
@@theshamegame2787well that's.... something
@@theshamegame2787 u should have a lil more shame in ur game for sure
@@theshamegame2787you are sick and I'm not joking... Sicko
@@theshamegame2787 Jesus Christ you are really something pal
I like how the new intro shows Jess and Em ganging up on Sam. I think they improved on that mean girl persona. which I think makes it better when we see just how much Jess has changed after her attack and how little survival chances she has. its sweet karma. Still, I love Jessica so she always survives for me.
I was seriously thinking they'd go the other direction at least with Jess? I thought they'd make her more sympathetic in this game and show more screentime with her and Matt. :/ I didn't really expect this.
@@Angel_Auraa Heh they just prevented us from skipping this scene and forgetting again that Jess was the one who started this all and that she's a shitty person and friend. It's a good thing they did because everyone always pinned everything on Em when she was fucked over by her best friend and was rightfully angry and resentful. Making Jess nicer would have contradicted that and the cliché she represented
@@ondiiina Are we gonna forget the fact, that emily use matt as a toy all the game and, behind his back, went to see mike and gaslight him about it, I would argue that em is even more a piece of shit, cause jessica look more sensible and open after the event of the sisters, but em still a bitch.
I have to admit I like the change from fixed camera angle to over the shoulder camera angle
i liked fixed because but the over the shoulder is cool
Yeah this was made by Supermassive games where after Man of Midan they ditched Fixed camera angles
@@ETG715 Man of Medan has over the shoulder.. wdym? I can rotate the camera and my view is right at my character's back lol
@@ACosmicCalamitynow it does, it didn’t before. It was an update.
Eh, I liked the fixed camera at 4:18:30 in old Until Dawn. The angle makes Beth's head looks creepy
Aw.. why did they have to remove the song during Mike and Jessica's snowball fight? That song MADE the scene in the OG! :(
Because copyright license is delicate and stupid 😞
IK IVE ALWAYS LOVED THAT SONG MAN.
I feel like this remake just hates Jess in general. 😅 I thought they'd be more sympathetic towards her since many fans wanted more from her and Matt.
@@Angel_Auraa To be honest, that's what she deserves. Jess and Mike are literally terrible people and I don't know why people like them. I think It's all because they're attractive.
@@Lale_Canfeda They're very flawed people (like most of characters) but the game does a good job of making them sympathetic. Jess is immature (I mean, she's in highschool) and really insecure and hides it behind a Mean Girl facade, but she also has a dorky and quite sweet side too underneath. She really goes through it in Until Dawn too and comes out of it very different.
Mike is a complete jerk at the start and makes a lot of mistakes, but has a hero's journey in the game. He's one of the most willing to risk his life and help his friends when it comes down to it. And Sam, who isn't a fan of him at the start, can respect him by the end of the game.
the addition of the scene with the maniac casually looking at security cameras made is blatantly clear who it was
After see the remake, I think Jessica is more hated than Emily, because she was the main responsible of the prank on Hannah
I mean... Jessica is a really shitty person, but Emily still feels more manipulative and self centred.
jess was a mean girl fr
I mean Jess was the one being all like "I'm just looking out for my girl Em." Then later after Mike and Emily broke up, she jumped to the opportunity. Like saying Hannah deserves the prank is rich coming from her. What an "opportunist".
jessica is literally just dumb, like a karen smith way- emily is more of a regina george
It was always jess who did the prank even in the original people just did not pay enough attention to understand that or missed it in the remake they made it so you can't miss it i am actually glad they made it like this
glad the wolf survived 🙏🏽
is he dying in the original?
@@omerkucuk_nope
Wolfy is the best ❤
@@omerkucuk_yes and no, it depends on what choice you make. I think if you choose to barricade instead of run, he lives
𝘽𝙪𝙩 𝙙𝙤𝙚𝙨𝙣'𝙩 𝙈𝙞𝙠𝙚 𝙗𝙡𝙤𝙬 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙬𝙤𝙡𝙛 𝙪𝙥 𝙢𝙖𝙮𝙗𝙚 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩'𝙨 𝙬𝙝𝙮 𝙬𝙚 𝙙𝙤𝙣'𝙩 𝙨𝙚𝙚 𝙞𝙩
Quite a lot of new scenes too, awesome!
At least they did it better than naughty dog
@@carolinejonesy2681Naughty dog gave us 60 fps lol
Yeah I feel like Sam and Josh also have the potential of reuniting in the sequel that's been announced. I feel like we're getting a sequel and a Dead By Daylight crossover.
@@alpha_rynx1396 60 fps is not enough to call it remake
@@carolinejonesy2681nah
14:05 being humiliated and the feeling of betrayal from people you consider your friends can be some of the worst pain.
Dante's ninth or last circle of hell is for those guilty of treachery and betrayal towards loved ones, close friends, their country, and their masters.
Noone chooses their country... county i am living provided me no jobs and no gf/ wife.. i don't owe them anything
@@randallezno3055 it's a saying, also you aren't owed those things, no one is. You have to get them yourself. And yes you can choose your country, don't like where you live become a worthwhile person and emigrate.
Am I the only one thinking that the facial expressions are creepier than the actual supernatural shit going on? Like why does this facial animation looks so terrible. I don’t remember the facial expressions looking this bad in the original. Maybe it’s just me
I also think the same lol
nope, defs noticed the same thing, everyone looks more uncanny now for some reason
the one before was also bad but not as bad as this Lol
totally uncanny valley, and except for hanna and beth, the female characters were downgraded lmao
The characters always looked uncanny
45:40! Gets me every dam time! 😂
lmao it got me too bro! The worst part is that I didn't get to that part I clicked on the timestamp and was ready for something and still jumped a bit lol
That's why I never done those. I knew some bs would happen 😂😂
3:43:02 I'm both happy and sad that the developers added this to Hannah's diary, you can feel how happy she was thinking she had a chance with Mike 😢
To this day I’m still not sure why Sam told them to go to the mines in the og . Honestly that mountain should be closed off for freaking ever and guarded with it being illegal to go up. Problem more or less solved
I think she just wanted them to find Josh, and also for their rescuers to believe them (which they clearly didn't). But, also, I don't think she or any of the other characters were thinking straight in the interviews. I mean, they're still covered in blood and dirt, suggesting they were immediately interrogated instead of taken to a hospital.
in the final scene where Sam is escaping the house to blow it up, it really feels like Hannah's just saving her best friend from that one Wendigo trying to reach her out, kinda cool.
But isn't she also the one essentially killing her if you fail the don't moves?
This game is a masterpiece. Can’t wait for the film adaptation.
It's really too bad they couldn't approach Rami Malek and co for a film adaptation when they were the same age as when they did this game. Would've been perfect casting lol.
i love how sam tried to tell her 💯
The lack of music around the 11 min mark is insane I'm buggin out
am i the only one, but im kind of disappointed hannah didnt have any new voice lines? why is there most of the time awkward silence where she could talk
Can't blame Josh, you lose your sisters and you're alone all because of some stupid prank played by your friends. But still Hannah was a bit wrong.
i don’t understand why josh spent so much time fucking with chris when chris was passed out with him when the prank happened i thought josh’s motive was to make the people involved in prank pay
03:37:30 Chris saying "let's just keep our heads" gotta be some kind of ironic joke :D
Dang they removed the iconic "where is my sister going🤖"
TLDR WARNING!
I’m gonna complain about something that I don’t see others having enough of an issue with. It’s a fun game. Absolutely a great time.
But we have to talk about the “lore” issues.
The biggest problem ….
There is no way, absolutely never, in any really, would they have the character listed as “Hannah’s best friend”, EVER stand by and allow that kind of “prank” to happen. That is RIDICULOUS. Sam simply saying “don’t you guys think this is a little cruel”, and THATS IT? It wasn’t a prank! It was assault. Filming someone, a minor no less, and yes even if the one filming is a minor, falls under revenge p***. Setting someone up in a sexual situation under false pretenses is assault. To not bb only knowingly let it happen, and then not chase after her once it did …. not only flies in the face of the kind of person we are meant to believe Sam is, but then to make her main description as “Hanna’s best friend” is insulting.
Which begs the question … why have Sam in the situation at ALL? Josh and Chris were passed out drunk which means that where they were and what they were doing during the “prank” has no bearing on the overall plot or butterfly effect. So WTF? What was the point of having Sam in the room?
Next issue ~ another unbelievable plot point is that Hannah willingly ran to Mike to “make out”, which somehow meant she immediately starts to unbutton her shirt, while not only in a house full of her friends, but also her brother and sister and Mike’s GF? You could MAYBE say she was drunk. But even then … it makes no sense. So at this point, the only thing you can do is create a backstory, that maybe he’s been leading her on or toying with her and they already have somewhat of a history. But still …. it makes no sense. Plus it is very much implied this is a first and Jess is doing this to simply back up her friend Jess, because Hannah has a “crush”.
The entire prank portion of the game was embarrassing and the writing was awful.
Again …. fun game.
But this is always bothered me as it is 😬 AF.
If the prank never happened, the game never would've happened either
@ I completely agree. But that wasn’t my point. I’m saying that Sam didn’t need to be there when it happened. And her letting it happen makes no sense.
How can Chris watch his best friend die and be so calm telling Ashley not to look. He could really handle and step up during bad moments. I would’ve been crying and throwing up holy shit
one new detail is that the prank scene is far more dramatic
Dude this shows what they can do. I really hope they put in this kind of work for the dark anthology stories. The remake shows they can improve on what they made, and I hope they can go like this from the ground up for the next season of the Dark Anthology. The Graphics, mechanics, and the gameplay shown here is what the Dark Anthology needs, I play co-op with my brother as well for all of them and they def improved on the co-ops mechanics as well for the devil in me. It's not "perfect" but they were getting there. Hope the next season or whatever for the game comes out with this kind of energy.
Actually this remake it's not done by Supermassive (developers of the original), but by Ballistic Moon
Honestly buddy if thish is how there doing there remakes I don't want man of medan to be remastered in less the charters move better facial animations don't look weird sticks to the original story well adding new things not making the lighting effects feel off some scenes are to dark and keep the orginal soundtrack to the game final fantasy 7 remake can do thish why cant movie games do thish life is strange suffers from thish as well og is better windigo sounds better as well and the sound effects but yea i havent seen a movie remake do it right yet all thish versions got is better graphics every thing else is a no for me
man I love Sam and Mike heroic action again this time.
I really love the story of this game since its original, I cant believe that they make a remake of this, I hope to see more dark pictures stories in the coming years
I agree. This story is amazing from the way it feels like a slasher horror film and then shifts to the supernatural and really uses the butterfly effect so heavily. It’s just so fun because it’s basically an interactive movie and I love watching tons of gameplays to see all the different outcomes
Thank you for doing this on PlayStation. The “don’t move” sequence is a cool feature in an interactive horror game.
I've been watchin alot of your walkthroughs, & this is my first time commenting on your channel, & you're an absolute beast!!! & Thanks for the experience of awesome gameplay bro!!
💪🏾😎💯🔥🔥🔥🔥
From what I have seen so far.. There are a few added scenes. I haven't been following the development of this game, but does make me wonder if they got some of the cast back for a few new scenes.
I like that there's no commentary in mk's videos. Imagine talking for about 6hours, people like 8bitryan never shut up
Holy shit theres a new end credit scene ! Until dawn 2 when ?
its not happening
@@Jon_zherka_77 I wouldn't be too sure about that
I read The Quarry was supposed to have been Until Dawn 2 when it was in development and then something happened and the rights to Until Dawn got pulled from Supermassive Games so they ended up rewriting the story.
It's being done by Firesprite
@@albertolucchesi3130 bingo
The sound effects are so fucking loud compared to the any other game they’ve made what the hell happened.
Not sure how I feel getting rid of the cold blue hue. Added an ambience to it as if felt really isolating when you arrive at the cabin.
It feels like they’re in some kind of perpetual sunset rather than up in the mountains during winter
They only did that in the original to hide some stuff (details) because the technology wasn't as good.
@@PolyBiBadger Or... it's the beginning of the game before the sun goes down. 😅
3:22:02 "Yooo, should we push 'em off?"
"Yeah, let's push 'em off." 💀
I could never imagine myself playing a heavily story driven game like this, but I really like it.
I feel like they made the don’t move sections in the remake waaaaaay easier than the original, felt like you had to actually “not move” in the original, compared to a bar that runs out when you move too much in the remake.
There’s so many little contextual details added that are amazing in this.
Your choices in it made me sad bc it damned Josh and Josh is honestly so funny. :/
am i the only one who can hardly see anything?? it’s so much darker than the original lol! maybe my display settings? idk
No not just you lol just like movies nowadays, the darkness is like cranked to 11 and not a damn thing can be seen nor heard
one of the best horror games!
Me and my girlfriend loved this game. It was like watching a movie.
no offense these comments are kinda why u should still play games u watch streamers play. so many comments about the lack of music dont realize its probably in streamer mode. also came here to see if u dropped hannah would that change anything cause that wouldve acually been cool
dude I love games like this.
Taking “Oh Death” out of the opening is a huge L. Also why did they take out the Previously on Until Dawn highlights away in between chapters? Made it feel like you were watching an actually show on Netflix or something. Removing the blue tint the otiginal had seems like a mistake too. Not very impressed so far, not gonna lie.
Game isn't even 10 years old and is still pretty fucking decent graphically....unsure why they chose to remaster this.
Omg, did anyone notice the Makkapitew looking at Beth at 16:15 before it knocks the shelf? The eyes on the right side in the dark. It seems to disappear when Beth looks up right before the flamethrower comes. That's an incredible addition.
I didnt see it :(
@@dwcyrusm.4127 Now that I turned the vid to the highest resolution to check it again, it appears that I've been mistaken. They're just holes in the wall. My bad :(
The water physics in the remake is actually cool asf
4:00:25 - bookmark for Mike finding Sam
It sucks how little we got to play as Matt and Jess, considering they had so much potential.
I watched the whole 6 hours and I felt like the amount of times we played as them is equal to an 1.30 at best.
I love this game but the only thing that scared me was the fact that Matt wanted to “do it” on a wooden table.. outside… IN THE WINTER 1:40:52
Many changes I don't like
Not sure what to think about the 3rd person camera angle compared to old.
The new soundtrack is dogshit. Also some of the sound effects are inferior.
They should do what Resident evil remakes have done and have the option to select the old soundtrack & sfx. Maybe the camera too.
I'm sure the PC community will make these mods in no time
Agreed! Its not scary at all without those soundtracks!
From what I heard, they didn't have the rights anymore to some of their soundtracks. Though they could make something similar or sound it similarly.
@@lckyminer_2256They couldn’t get the old guy who did the music back, so they hired someone else completely inferior
MKIceAndFire is the best channel for walkthroughs! No commentary just straight up gameplay of full game❤
2:02:20 You can see the deer phase through the rock lmao. The remake looks good though, the new character models are great, the fog effects are nicer and most of the lighting is much better (but imo should be lighter in some scenes and darker in others). The new scenes are nice and they've improved some camera angles but did ruin others. But, I loved the original, even with all its issues, so I might pick this up.
At 3:50:00 there is no photo of Jessica on the board. If Josh had no idea that wendigo would kidnap her, why wasn't he keen on messing with her too?
Idk ur smart
2:06:31 “lookie lookie who gonna fire up some nookie” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Now I’m just waiting for a death comp
Until Dawn is a good game and I can say enough to people that you must get Song of Horror. Don’t let the name fool you it’s amazing. Good graphics great story fixed camera angles, multiple characters to choose from what you do carries over into each chapter affecting the outcome of the ending. I highly recommend people play this hidden gem
A very unnecessary "remake"... the original is perfect...it feels awkward now
True. The original background music gave us full of fear and thrill. This one i dont even hide my eyes🙁
Can't play the OG on PC, can we
Can you be happy we're most likely getting a sequel and zip it? 😅
This game sets up some sort of continuation.
@@serban2139 eww PC players 😂
Remake of the best chase sequence to ever come out of supermassive at4:32:37
Emily until dawn u will forever be famous
So they remade this game just to let you have better 3rd person control and upgraded the graphics just barely ?? And charging $60 for it ??? What a joke!!! Pathetic by Sony
I must say; this recent game with better features, scenes and incredible complexity are underrated! Once again, thanks for sharing with us MKIceAndFire.
I’m glad they added that early Matt and Emily gameplay section finally. Because I only ever see those on the people who preordered it.
One of the most beautiful horror games
I really liked how u could see the percentage of the options you choose, I wonder why it was removed
Original was perfect, those background musics gave us full of fear and thrill. This one is not scary at all! I don’t even feel i am watching a horror game😑
4:33:54 why did the wendigo not have a sound effect. I hope they can update that
MK thank you for the video! I was wondering if you could do this gameplay again but where everyone lives! But thank you for this video
just fucking kidding - lmao
Really enjoyed the play through love the channel content!
loved hayden panettiere in this
Bro had a double-barreled break-open he fired eight times without reloading.
@@crypto66 true legend
Herschel infinite shotgun ammo
5:36:45
i remember in the original if you give matt the flare gun he shoots it in the air but then has a second shot when he crosses paths with the wendigo. he only can use it to save himself if he choose to disagree with Emily at the ski lift and go back to the lodge.
I'm at 3.5 hours and this is absolutely amazing. 6h horror movie
"Make this one trip we will never forget" well it did happen not the way they hoped for tho
I mean... unless the trauma makes them block it out. 😅
I have this game...beaten it..wanted to get all trophies...missing only three
Thanks for the Longplay 👍
People keep saying the old soundtrack is iconic, and I just have no recollection of it at all. Been a few years since I played the game, maybe ya’ll just revisited it more often than I did.
But the music and sound design feel fine to me in the remake.
I forget this is a video game sometime 34:00 he’s literally pointing a loaded shotgun at one of the characters. His finger is not on the trigger, but nonetheless don’t point a loaded weapon at somebody.
The emily bob is bobbing
$60 and barely no changes and no upgrade path
Music sucks especially when being chased
And an extra ending that doesn’t mean anything
Buggy
Qte button prompts sounds are too low and boring and the don’t move button is no longer blue just white
Lighting in areas look off it should be dark and blue for example early game.
There are various changes, lighting being one of them. You can like an artist look more than another but they did make the lighting more believable. Especially because they purposely darkened things in the original to hide some rough edges. Models are drastically better, much higher fidelity, better performance, and more scenes were added in. While I agree the no upgrade path is disappointing, I guess my question is would it have mattered to you?? For "barely no changes" I mean. Or if there was an upgrade path let's say $10 would you feel more positive towards it and acknowledge the upgrades more?
@@alexisestrada9188 There’s really not enough here to really justify it being full priced though? For a game that isn’t even that old to begin with.
The extra ending is hinting at a sequel, so I'm all for it! I love Sam! And there's also actually a different ending for Josh too. You can properly save him. So if there's a sequel, he could appear in it too. :)
@@TheTardisDreamer He would have appeared anyways as he canonically beats the wendigo. The entire spin-off VR game is a sequel that takes place in his mind and is him fighting off the possession and healing from it. THAT is the more interesting route for his character too. Like between that and a normal Josh (since he'd be taking his meds again), the choice is easy. It makes him a lot more interesting!
@@ondiiina the vr game is called Until Dawn: Rush of Blood, and at the end, it shows the scene of him from the og Until Dawn as a wendigo, not "beating the curse and healing", just from his perspective of looking up to the people trying to rescue him and then him charging at them like when he "lives" in the og. The game in it's entirety is what Josh sees before that moment, more accurately, hallucinates, due to his mental issues
Has a more old school horror feel to it. If youre from a newer generation, you mat not enjoy it. Sorry you didn't.
Who is bro talking to
he is making a comment talking about the game, not you, lil dude.
😭 i was weak asf reading this shit@@Chewbeaky25
The soundtrack really changes everything
old man yells at cloud
Thank you for posting this game.
Is it just me or did the soundtrack lose its edge from the original? It' seems so odd with these new sounds and tracks lol
I love how they added new scene I remember this all and rewashed the old one now that I watched this the cutscene are different like at the beginning in the old one they never moved Josh they left him on the table n in the new one they moved him to a couch now that's dope n for who didn't watch this yet I won't say no more