“Admin is scared of county office, county office is scared of these parents, these parents are scared of their kids, and these kids ain’t scared of no one.” BEST. QUOTE. EVER. I’m so sorry this was your experience, and I’m grateful you put your health first. I can’t imagine being brave enough to speak up because that is so hard in and of itself, and then to be ignored. Ridiculous. Did the counselor ever apologize for ignoring your email?????? 😒 And these poor kiddos. We have to do better for our teachers and students ❤️ Thank you for being courageous and sharing your story. I know you’re speaking for many teachers who cannot.
My beloved English teacher took her own life my Junior year. She was kind, patient, loyal, and above all an amazing teacher. She used to chastise me for reading too far ahead of the rest of the class and would bring in baked goods her mother made for us. Every quarter she wrote letters to us students telling us what she enjoyed having us as students. They were short, but they were personal and I still have one tucked safely away in a box. She was only 30. I will never forget you, Ms. Heilman. And I will never forget all of the other amazing teachers in this country who deserve so much better.
When teachers are out in the hallways trying to monitor a single child, all the other children who are doing the right thing are paying the price with the quality of their education. Teachers needs more support ASAP
Agreed! This is sad and disturbing on every level. I hope that kid has a real turning point before she really hurts someone and probably already has outside of school. And the behaved kids are gonna fall behind while the bully demands the attention.
@Suresurely Yes! Since it it a circus and I KNOW there’s no accountability, I as a reading intervention teacher refuse to take kids with behavior issues. I can deal with the slightly chatty, but if they have a reputation for being rude, disruptive towards me and other students, cannot follow directions, or even TRY to do the work for 30 mins, they’re dropped and replaced! Period! My goal is the work with the struggling kids….who WANT to learn to help them make growth and improve. I’m not there as a babysitter so their regular teacher can have a break from them.
My husband is an elementary teacher makes a great point. Back when we were kids, if our parents got a phone call from the school, their response would be “what did he/she do?” Now when the school calls a parent, the parent responds “what did the teacher do to make my child respond like that?” Parents are lazy, entitled and do not want to discipline or hold their kids accountable for their actions. I’m so ashamed of my generation’s parenting. 😩
Yes!!! Yes!!! I'm with you!! My kids knew good and well that if I got a call from the school, they were going to get their butts in it with me when they got home! Where'd the parents go?!
there are so many times where the parents are just as bad! worked at a HS- we've had parents threaten to fight kids bc of how their child was treated by another kid... meanwhile the issue is 2 sided. they come in yelling and cursing out staff and faculty based only on what their child has told them
This is what happens when parents do not PARENT their children, do not hold them accountable for their actions, and do not give them consequences. I've had ENOUGH of parents these days. Kids need STRUCTURE, BOUNDARIES, and CONNECTION with their parents. It is WORK to be a parent, and this job canNOT be outsourced to teachers!
AGREE!! But it needs to be done with love. When I hear of children behaving that way it makes me worry about what kind of home life they have. But you are right teachers are there to do a job not be their Mamma. AND why is our educational system funded with property taxes? It should be equal across the board so maybe school districts could staff schools properly and provide a safe and, dare I say, pleasant work environment for the people who are responsible for shaping our future?!
Say it LOUDER! The education system is broken because our families are broken. We could largely fix the education system and a significant portion of the mental health crisis if we prioritized building and maintaining strong family relationships. Parents cannot outsource parenting!
@@jeepstergal4043 exactly. They do the same to churches. "I'm not gonna teach my kid morals and religion. I'm just gonna dump them in Sunday school, Kid's Church, and/or youth group and let the church handle that stuff." Same with teachers. "I'm not gonna make sure my kids are learning what they need to learn by checking their homework and reading any communications from their teachers. I'm just gonna dump them at school, pick them up, and let them play and goof off the rest of the day and trust that they're getting a good education." IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT!!! You still have to reinforce what your kids are learning in those environments, and help fill in the gaps!!
This needs to be a Ted Talk : Teacher Retention & Teacher Wellness . The conversation needs to be addressed on a larger scale . Our educators are stressed and suffering so their must be a shift in support so that the choice between what you’re passionate about and your peace does not need to be comprised. Parents and students need a higher level of accountability! Thank you for your vulnerability and continued success in all that you do and on your path of healing.
I agree, but there are too many people that simply do not understand the stress of being in a classroom with students all day. Those that need to hear it are the same ones that say teachers complain too much. (30 year teacher here)
I’ve never felt so understood in my life. I’m so miserable and I can’t leave yet. No one in my circle gets it. I can’t thank you enough for making these videos. Every day is hard.
You are NOT alone! I hope you can make the step to leave. I told myself I would not leave my current job until I have something else that provides healthcare lined up for me. It's so bad here that I've made a plan B, preparing myself for leaving in a month and losing my health insurance while I work a different job. I hope you can do what's best for your mental and physical health! You will feel much better when you get to leave that space. Best of luck ❤
@@RoaringMind better. Worth it. I'm making less money and don't have health insurance but it's honestly worth what I left behind. I am a substitute, so I have control over my schedule and I still get to work with kids. Going to so many different schools, I get to see how so many different schools are. They aren't all this bad! Which also gives me hope.
Maybe if you ever wanted to leave, you could get something in higher education there are many jobs that I am looking at where you need some type of teaching experience.
"Just because a child has an IEP does not give them a license to do whatever the hell they want" 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 Teachers is TIREDDDDDD and the excuses are WEAK!!! I used to be hurt when teachers would leave the profession. Now I cheer them on.
I think better mental health services, and systematic support for neurodivergent kids and teachers would help A TON. As a student who is neurodiverse, I can 100% agree it is not an excuse for being a shitty person, even if it may be the reasoning. (Saying why something happened is not the same as excusing the behaviour. Saying why is answering the question, so we can make sure the behaviour doesn't repeat.) When people act out, it is usually for a reason. So if everyone was treated fairly, and the system wasn't neurotypical/alistic tyranny, combined with ARMED COPS, the outcomes wouldn't be so harsh. Yes, kids need consequences to bad actions--but those actions need to be clearly defined, defined as to WHY they are bad, and healthy alternatives and actions MUST be given. And, the consequences should be REASONABLE, not legal most of the time. Criminalizing every little misstep a kid takes helps nothing. If you only punish, nothing will happen. Nothing will change--hence why we have the school-to-prison pipeline, and so many human rights abuses in schools. Students are forced to literally ignore their biological clock, so they are chronically sleep-deprived 24/7, they are over-worked, and they also have this whole new system of feelings and body changes that nobody is actually helping them deal with other than telling them to just stop. This on top of being told the way your brain is wired is wrong and broken, systemic racism, sexism, homophobia, and dress code sexualization--alongside corporal punishment (aka, excused abuse)--it's no wonder kids act out! So, while actions have consequences, just remember that the system sets them up to fail--and it hurts everyone, including staff and teachers. So let's get to the root of the issue and not just blame CHILDREN.
@@ErutaniaRose all of that is fine, but if that’s the issue they don’t need to be in the regular setting until they have their needs meet, they are properly socialized, and proper safety measures are met. IEP’s are used as a license to TERRORIZE students and teachers and it’s not right. Everyone’s advocating for THEM, but who is advocating for the teachers and the neurotyoical students.
I had one child look me dead in the eyes and tell me "I haven't had my meds this morning...I am not responsible for my behavior today." She was 8 years old....
This!!!! My son has an IEP and I dare him to act like a dam fool. Teachers have our kids more than us and should be treated with the same respect as a parent.
As a 6’2 black man who formerly taught in the inner city, that story about the male teacher and that little girl hit home. I found myself having to remain humble and damn near get punked by children on a constant basis. There was no way these kids had a chance against me but they knew what they could get away with. It’s safe to say I choose my sanity over the profession.
I get it. I've literally become a lawyer 2 protect myself fm these students, parents, & admin. Still, as I win the battles, I lose the war. I transfer annually bec I'm put on admins hit list as the teach who shuts down admin, mk them nervous. Lk u I chose my sanity, transition new 2 new career.
Yep, they don't have fear of teachers! (And teachers are told this is our fault ("classroom management!" "Relationships!") even when students don't show fear even toward a big guy like you.) So then the behaviors just escalate and aren't dealt with. This is all truth. Glad you're happier now.
I can’t imagine investing tens of thousands of dollars to go to college and get my teaching degree and then dealing with these problems. You’re doing the right thing spreading awareness. Something needs to change.
It gets better. A Missouri school system pays $25,000 to first year teachers. Imagine trying to live on $25,000, paying off student loans and putting up with this treatment.
@@JennyEliz_IstheShiz I wish I could say I was shocked at your pay. Probably make more with DoorDash Or Instacart. And, they call teachers greedy for wanting more pay. 🤦♀️
It took me 8 years to get my bachelors degree. I wanted to be a good influence and try to inspire kids. I have been in shock since I started working. My heart is broken.
When my son got in trouble at school, I gave him 1 warning. A few months later, he got in trouble again. He came home and EVERY THING he loved in his room was gone. From PS, TV, VR, posters, toys, clothes, shoes. The only thing left in his room was the stuff he didn’t really wear. I also bought him some shoes from Walmart. I told him he wasn't getting his stuff back until the end of the school year and he had to have a B average. I emailed all my kids teachers with all my info including work info and husband's info too. I don't mess around especially when it comes to respecting adults. My kids hated me when I joined the student governing counsel board, and was the equity council lead. 😈 I'm raising respectful kids, even if i have to scare the respect into them.
You are being a responsible parent…I took my children games and tv and nothing but homework and reading a book until the weekend…and then only if they maintained a “B” average…the rest of their school life until they graduated high school. Both finished university without anything else I need to address related to academics or behavior. Continue to be consistent…this is what love looks like in real life ❤
I can't believe people are actually agreeing with you. You seriously take away your children's possessions instead of communicating with them and talking about the issue? Incredibly weird, childish and toxic. As someone with abusive parents, who have also done this kind of thing by the way, I have never learned anything from that, because instead of "learning from my mistake", I was dealing with unnecessary anger, sadness, disappointment, and most importantly: feeling like absolute crap and hating myself for the person I was. Instead of them finding a solution that could work out for both of us, they did nothing but destroy or take away my possessions. You'd be surprised how traumatizing that is, trust me on this. A child is going to remember this shit and not in a good way. I don't care how old you are, I am in my twenties so this is my experience and it's valid. I'm not taking any shit from older adults who are going to invalidate my PERSONAL experiences. What I do care is that parents should f*cking talk to their kids and actually check up on them. Ask them what's goin on. Learn how to communicate with your child cause it's actually embarrassing to see parents like you talk about stuff like this in such a casual manner. My parents (and many other parents it seems) are incredibly incompetent when it comes to communication and especially with the children. Your comment is a prime example of what happens when parents never communicate with their children and then will be butthurt when the kids drop them in a few years.
You are talking from an abusive standpoint. Of course, your viewpoint is skewed. These parents already communicated their standards, and they kept getting in trouble. Action is needed at this point. Kids don't have to have luxuries, especially if kids continue to disrupt the school classroom. Your child would be ruining the quality of the other student's education. Talk is cheap! These kids that act out would ride you and take you over if you let them. If as parent only believe in gentle parenting, you may be picking up your kid after a stint in Juvenile Detention.
As a parent of a SPED student, I hold my son accountable for his actions/behaviors. I stand firm with discipline. ( yes if he misbehaves I take away IPad, computer, tv etc and we talk about what happened) I do not let him use his ‘disability’ as a reason not to treat other classmates and teachers with respect. I wish more parents would take back parenting their kids. Kids get away with too much these days.
I am a special education teacher and I genuinely commend you on this. There’s a difference between a disability effecting a child and blatant rude and disrespect. You rock mom!
Thank you. You model how parents should be raising their children. Too often I see students have no discipline for actions they make. Back when I was in school a student assaulting someone was grounds for expulsion. Now, I’ve seen student hit another student out of nowhere and get time in “restorative circles” or maybe a few days of ISS (In School Suspension). I’ve even seen students threaten fights or similar actions with no intervention. When a student looks at a teacher and says they need to have X because it’s on their plan, not saying they need X to do Y effectively, it gives too much power to students
@@leej1759 I get frustrated about this too. One of my kids genuinely acts worse at school than at home. And I know they don't believe me, because that is what parents "always say". But it's true! At home we don't let his misbehaviors slide. And I feel bad for the teachers that would be stricter with him if the school would allow it.
Same here! Teachers job is to teach and our job is to parent. I do not expect my child’s teacher to be his parent. Am I perfect, far from it! I try everyday to be a better parent.
I have that discussion with my doctor- often. She tell's me something; some reason she is blocked from referring me to a specialist, etc and it's always a parallel to something that happened at my school that week. Healthcare & Education need the most support. Otherwise we don't really have much of a society.
100%. Good education and good healthcare is a fundamental requirement for a happy and successful life. But what systems are the most broken? Education and healthcare. Nothing improves in society until we decide to start reasonably funding both systems and stop treating our teachers and nurses like garbage. You can’t overwork, underpay, gaslight and hang out to dry your front line heroes in two very critical industries and expect everything to keep running smoothly. Both systems are on the verge of collapse if something doesn’t give.
I literally had a parent in a SPED meeting on Zoom tell us, “ Everytime y’all suspend him, you guys are punishing us when he’s home.” I was floored when I heard that. Unbelievably incredible.
There is so much wrong with that sentence! If you see your own child as a punishment, there is something wrong at home!!!! Fix that, don't expect teachers to do it for you
That's a funny way of saying "Thank you teachers because you're brave enough to do the work that we as parents can't / won't do." I believe appropriate respect is due to teachers instead of treating them like nothing.
"And now you know how we feel, 5 days/week, as long as your child is on school property. Your child now needs to stay home. If you cannot come to school to pick her/him up, our school police office will give them a ride home. "
That’s because to her their peace is more important than yours. Secondly, they can’t control him and get a break when he’s in school. Ma’am, your son is punishing us in school daily. Now tag, you’re it.
Run for office. I'd vote for you! I'm a 14-year veteran teacher and everything you're saying, I say. We say. All teachers say. We need teachers to run for office and step into the roles where the decisions are being made.
When I was 7 months pregnant, I had an 8th grader threaten to push me down the stairs. Admin asked what I did. 2 out of 5 teachers refused to remove her “status” because it had to be my fault. Other students looked at me and said, “she’ll never respect you and she’ll do it if she’s angry enough.” I walked out, got early maternity leave, and never went back into a physical classroom and I never will. My child is now 6 years old.
@speakmymind2392 As much as I love my job and respect the strict rules about touching kids, I would NEVER in my life allow any kid to push me to the ground or down the stairs. A student can scream at me, call me names, cuss at me, but the day they put their hands on me hurting me, I am going to defend myself. I’ll take getting written up over being injured and having to do to the hospital.
“And the kids aren’t scared of anyone” SO TRUE. I’m so glad you’re taking care of yourself. And thank you for speaking up about what so many of us experience. Sending love!!
Yes!! So TRUE!! I am a parent myself and I talked to other fellow teachers about this and they think that it’s our job, as teachers, to also PARENT their child?? Absolutely not
These kids just do not care and they’re so disrespectful and we’re being told to parent them ?? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I can’t. I can’t. And I understand why you don’t want to keep staying for your mental health
I was such an animated teacher. I taught on my feet wandering the classroom, helping students. As I gradually became sick over the years. I spent more time at my desk; I brought in a bar stool to teach from. Eventually, I taught from my chair. I’ve had to quit teaching and retire on disability. When I talk to my colleagues, they tell me that I got out just in time. It’s getting rough.
Hi Bri, I managed ( barely) to make it through my 33rd year of teaching! I retired on June 2nd, 2022. My last year was unbelievable- I taught Senior English, Creative Writing, Technical Writing, Spanish 1 and another “class” called Employability ( which required another prep from me). Creative Writing and Technical Writing were only supposed to be for one semester ( and each of those 2 classes) were only supposed to be for 1 semester and I was only supposed to have either Creative Writing OR Tech Writing NOT both at the same time! In January of last school year there were times when I did not think that I would make it to the end of the year. I needed to last until the end of the year to get my pension. I finally retired at age 70!!! Bottom line ( in my opinion) ALL of these districts are afraid of getting sued by the parents!! I cannot even begin to tell you some of the disrespect that I experienced in my 33 year career. At one school district, one of my students threatened to beat me up and he was still on my roster the second semester! Obviously, that was a terroristic threat to me and he should NOT have been in my class. Anyway, I made it and retired on June 2,2022 at 70 years of age. Elizabeth Clark
Congratulations on making it to retirement! My parents are retired teachers. My mom taught 4th grade and my dad high school then college. My sister is also a teacher and nearing retirement. God bless.
I couldn’t make it. My mental health has been suffering for the last few years & only got worse during Covid. I’m losing out on 15% of my salary because of school system.
Teachers don’t write kids up because they are sick of admin not doing anything about the students behaviors. It becomes a waste of time/slap in the face when you write up a student 10x and absolutely no consequences are issued.
The worst part about it, is that you can have a stack of detailed documentation (emails with parents, parent/teacher conferences, student statements, phone logs, work samples) and nothing still happens.
This. It's a vicious circle. They won't send them to alternative schools without the write ups and the teachers won't write them because they know they are a waste of time and nothing will be done. Then to top it off, the teacher gets blamed or told they are writing too many referrals. If someone would ACTUALLY give a few consequences the kids would get the message. The district I retired from decided teachers were referring too many black kids (in a majority black school district) and we were told to handle more in our classroom. We didn't care what race the kid was, it was behavior like what Brianna just described that was getting kids written up.That same district had a policy that unless the parent agreed, we couldn't send any kid to alternative school.
Thank you for saying that an IEP doesn't give a kid a license to do what they feel! I have been teaching that for years. I am a SPED teacher with a 24 year old high-functioning autistic son. My son is in college. Trust me. All children need discipline and boundaries. Having a disability, exceptionality, or challenge doesn't give you a visa to act like you have no home training. I am so sorry that you went through this experience. You are absolutely right. Your health comes first. Please be our spokeswoman on this matter.
I am a high functioning autistic person and I find boundaries help me. Boundaries and rules from others and that I now use. I need to learn social skills and such similarly to school subjects. Thankfully I have a brain 4 school style learning otherwise I'd be impossible to talk to.
We as parents HAVE TO HOLD OUR CHILDREN ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS!!! I have mad respect for teachers answering the call to teach, because, for sure, it's DEFINITELY a calling!!! I'm so sorry you had such horrible experiences, hon and so thankful that you put your health and family first!! I thank God every day for our teachers because ya'll do NOT GET PAID ENOUGH to deal with all that ya'll have to deal with!!! School is NOT a daycare, your children are there to receive an education! Continued prayers for those that are still in the teaching profession and for those who had to give it up because their health and sanity depended on it!! MAD love for all of ya'll and THANK YOU, hon, for bringing awareness to this situation!!! God bless!!!
@ Deidre Danker Yes. It makes me disappointed that after a tragedy like the covid pandemic……with schools being closed and kids having limited resources, that parents and society still don’t show enough compassion. There’s people that contribute so much to society and many take it for granted. Aside from teachers, think about everything that school nurses, after-school program supervisors, teacher assistants, cafeteria workers, and school psychologists do for our kids! Now go back to the year 2020 remember how it felt it was almost taken away.
I remember when I was a kid parents had to all take a turn coming in for a day to be a classroom assistant and I tell you this, IT CHANGED things. Parents need to see what the hell these kids are up to at school. They need to bring that back.
Ooooh that’s funny!!! Parents are full aware of how their children act . Bc they act the same way at home with them. They aren’t angels at home and all of a sudden become holy terrors at school. Parents could give a damn. They feel they teachers problems for eight hrs. Then are left in after school program until after dark. So when they get them it’s bed be gone.
This is what happens when you take Holy Bibles & prayer out of school. Holy Bibles were taken out of schools in 1954 in this country(America). There weren't school shootings like there are now, of coarse there were some fights & bullying. It has only gotten worse since then. Bring the Holy Scriptures back & teach about how choices lead to positive or negative consequences.
@@myeshareynolds9624 Freedom of Religion is a thing. I am a Jew. Please save your Bible comments. Not everyone worships the same. Also, based on the US Constitution, one of our greatest freedoms is Separation of Church and State. Bibles have no place in schools except parochial schools run by religious organizations.
@@haliburley4153 No. I will NOT save my Holy Bible comments. Religion was created my man. Not God. God has his chosen people and does not want any to perish. Both Hebrews & Gentiles only come to the Heavenly Father by becoming born again and accepting Jesus Christ and what he did on the cross ✝️. God's laws ALWAYS overrule man's laws. Spare the rest of us your ignorance & negative comments. If you really were a Jew and a true follower & believer in the Lord you wouldn't say such things. I suggest you get into The Holy Scriptures and serve God and not man. God bless you ✝️
@@myeshareynolds9624 oh good grief. Because the bible is one if the most sadistic demonstrations of arbitrary violence known to man…. And almost entire committed by GOD. The Bible is so screwed up, if we lives “Biblically” is would be a dystopian hellscape where women were barely human, chattel property, and slavery was totally cool and normal. Remember- neither God now Jesus had a peep to say about how evil slavery was. Keep your bible in in your church. If you really think ifs that’s important get off your-tube and and spend all your free time reading, studying and memorizing it. How much time did you spend teaching it to your kids in your home? Or did you just break out the few parts you likes to use to scare/intimidate/ and control them or justify your own self righteous bigotry? Were you a Sunday Christian, or just a “Christmas and Easter” Christian? Parochial schools exist. I think history has made it clear that they are no more the answer to society’s ills as anything else to do with religion, but if you still need to believe that then you are more than welcome to send your little sinner to one and continue the time-honored tradition of wondering why leaving your parenting responsibilities up to a book of myths and a bunch if men and women who have never even raised a kid among them has’t magically fixed your bUdding psychopath, by all means, it’s America, and saving you or your offspring from your stupidity would be UnAmerican, now wouldn’t it? 😂
I agree. I’m not Jewish, but I respect that people (students, staff, everyone) in schools or elsewhere should be allowed to follow their religious faiths.
"Just because a child as an IEP does not give them a license to do whatever they want!" Yes! YES YES YES! I am a mother of a HF-ASD and I cannot preach this concept enough! I don't need something to baby my child and to let them run the school. Love on them, ABSOLUTELY! But do not coddle them and let them run all over the school. If you do that then I have to try to "teach" or "prepare" them in the college setting. Hmm... How am I supposed to prepare a student to work in the healthcare field at a technical college when for the last 13 years they've had Z-E-R-O responsiblities beyond being free to do whatever they want? Hey Best Friend I see you! Mental Health first!
Exactly. IEP and 504 students have the right to supports for their success. It’s not a free pass to disrupt the learning of the rest of the class on a regular basis.
Here here. Mom of HF-ASD and college faculty. This 👆👆👆Students are amazed that they can actually fail classes. They’re surprised when “no late work” means no late work. But they learn, adapt and thrive in their environment once they have boundaries.
"If you die at work, they just gonna replace you the next day." You are right. Workers in every job have to realize their supervisors will never prioritize their safety the way we must. (Think of the warehouse workers who weren't allowed to leave when a tornado was approaching.)
At what point do we as teachers completely shut a school down because we walk out? This is my first year in middle school, 3rd year overall, and I cannot deal with the behaviors. I’m so close to doing this myself. There are no real consequences at school and clearly none at home. The disrespect is offensive and overwhelming.
I’m there with you, and I’m not even in a situation close to what my brothers and sisters are in education. But I can see the storm clouds on the horizon, and it will be next year.
they have a liberal army of teachers ready to take your place. Parents need to stay on the school boards, show up in force. The real problem is all our tax money needs to go to the states, so they don't need the federal funds and the strings that they attach to them. All the CRT comes from the Dept of Education and the funding, then the private funding from special interest that premote the porn books in your elementary school libraries.
I may not of been a teacher, I was a bus driver and I feel all of this to my core. I quit too. Enough is enough. We couldn’t do squat. Bravo! Stand up. Preach.
She's right she's right, I'm a teacher for many years in Urban area for years ; and, I had to walk too .. I had 40 kids 5 classes per day Kids fighting in classes in the hallways, the other kids was only protection
The US should do what Dept of Defense Schools did in Japan. If your child rode the bus, you or someone you paid had to ride as a bus monitor one week in the school year. This worked very very well. You had to be a bus monitor or your child could not ride. This was done by the Dept of Defense
HOW ABOUT STOP ROBBING FROM LEGITIMATE PARENTS TO PAY THESE BABY MOMMAS and these public school teachers. My family wants nothing to do with the lot of you.
I left teaching after 14 years. You absolutely nailed it with your observations. Public education is failing. There will be no teachers left. There are already no subs, no bus drivers, no paras - admin needs to wake up. Who will teach these kids? Not me. Ever again.
It’s all a forest. Ppls (Admin/SchBoard) aren’t being held accountable for their actions and if you speak out against the foolery. You’re the scapegoat and toss out on your head for doing so. Admin sucks all the while teachers are running away in groves bc they see its a losing battle. You’re damn if you do and dammed if you don’t…Zoo all day.
@@qshebacarr57 We’re in agreement on that. I’m a teacher at heart and it’s so hard to be a teacher without a classroom. But teaching isn’t about teaching anymore. It feels more like having to raise children who aren’t yours, because parents aren’t teaching basic character traits such as respect and kindness. And we can’t hold them accountable because we might hurt their feelings and make them sad. We’re given completely unrealistic expectations by people who haven’t been in a classroom in YEARS. The problem is so complex - at this point, I don’t know what the solutions are. But maybe start with accountability. For ALL. Not just teachers. 🤷♀️
Teachers r leaving my districts because they're out number in core class 1:37 & elect 1:50. Legis is stealing the funds needed 2 implement class sz amend, fund edu, & reduce prop taxes. The Lottery we voted 4 n FL md $40B & gave edu $1B over 20 yrs. We were promised 20% & get
“This girl has not been given any consequences” and yet she is expected to change her behaviour. You are such a strong and inspirational human. Thank you for your courage and voice. I’m in Australia and we are experiencing the same problems. Unfortunately because out parents so afraid to be anything but friends to their kids, they are failing them and blaming the teachers, because they expect us to be the disciplinarians. They are refusing to hear is when we say this has to come from the home. So glad my kids grew up with a teacher as a parent, and I’m sure their teachers say the same!
The problem begins at home, period. My generation was taught that if we got in trouble at school, we were in trouble at home. Over the years, some parents decided to become friends with their children rather than a parent. Note that there are some, not all.
Well, I came from a home where you were abused if you set a toe out of line. School was honestly safer to get into trouble, although the kids I was in with were horrible little psychopaths too, so that tended to keep me in line--that and knowing Guidance counselors would make it worse. So my point is, I had educated parents who were **very** involved. So involved in fact, that a minor infraction had the same response as if Bin Laden himself had attacked. My parents did everything ''right'' and their abuse was untraceable and undetectable. So, not sure about when yours was but a lot of generations of, um...involved parents are not necessarily the solution if it's not the right way. .
@@grumpydruid8372 .. I experienced abuse from my father, but unlike you. Mine was emotional, not physical. My biological father (my parents divorced when I was 12) put a lot of pressure on my older brother to get good grades. My brother struggled because of this pressure. My mother decided that my father would not treat me the same. Somehow, she protected me. I didn’t have the added pressure and good grades were easy for me. My father’s mantra was, “Even if you earn an A, you can do better.” As a teen, I figured out that he was a taker, not a giver. Decades later (I’m in my 60s), I do not have a relationship with him, although I didn’t suffer the same abuse as you.
“Ain’t no job in this world that’s worth your health…not a single one!” 🙌🏻PREACH!!🙌🏻 Just left my job in the mental health field for the same reason…I know it’s different from teaching, but I still relate to soooo much of what you’re saying!!!
Absolutely. These let's play administrators is a joke. These are the stupidest people you ever want to meet or work with, Store-bought degrees and all.
As a student this makes me so sad. I see my peers acting up and I wish I could do something becouse I want you guys to feel loved and safe in ur own classrooms
The best you can do is to advocate for better mental health care for both teachers and for the student body. Students who "act up" are 99.99% of the time doing that as a call for help. Simply asking for help is often ignored, shunned, or even, at times, punished or shamed. This can be traumatizing on top of whatever trauma requires them to seek help in the first place. Doing things that give them control over others helps them to feel more confident that everyone around will be too scared to either attack or neglect them. This definitely includes teachers, as they get grouped into the same box with abusive adults in their personal lives: "if I don't outsmart or intimidate this person, then he or she is in a position to hurt me, so I must show everyone that I mean business." Trauma puts the sufferer and everyone else around them in difficult positions. The only way out of it is through awareness and availability of therapy. Please encourage your school board to make therapy more widely available, easier to access. Please also encourage your peers to talk to someone they trust who is trained in therapy. They may reject the idea and take it as an attack, but the idea will most likely stick with them.
You can…. Get all the students that want to be there and learn to fight back. Take your school back. Take your right to an education back in a peaceful situation! Bully back the bullies that disrespect & disrupt the classroom
The part that really got me was “the teacher could be having a breakdown and the kids will be laughing at them”. Literally happened to me not long ago. I already made the decision to leave; I just need another job first cuz I get paid so shitty I can barely pay my bills let alone save anything.
yeah i know of a couple of kids that have made it their goals to get one teacher to quit. and its not even for any of the bad teachers either. my old math teacher was borderline predatory but "it was just different back in his day" ok bro. go ask a single girl in his class if they feel comfortable 100% of the time in his class. he'd randomly go up behind them and grab their shoulders and like get really close when talking to them. it wasnt anything crazy but its just fucking weird dude
If you’re a teacher who wants to quit and you can’t, take a “medical leave of absence.” Go to your psychologist/psychiatrist and have them write you a note. It won’t solve your problems, but it will give you some time to take a break and make a plan.
You don't need a psychiatrist. Go to your family doctor, state your case, and ask for a note attesting to your mental and physical health issues. I bet you get that letter and your leave.
This story hit bullseye close to home. It isn't just middle and high school kids either. My elementary kids are running around swinging and throwing chairs at PREGNANT teachers. Then, the parents go blaming other kids and defend their child like they are sinless saints.
I heard a story of a teacher who’d had a miscarriage and some little monster threw it back in her face and taunted her about it. This is why people say _”phuck them kids”_ .
I stopped calling parents years ago. Why? Experience has taught me how those conversations go. Nothing good comes from telling a parent about a child’s behavior. I will be blamed, cussed out, and told that any misbehavior is my fault. Absolutely no support for me at all.
You forgot denial that anything happened. “My son/daughter would never do that. Why aren’t you talking to the other kid’s parents because they’re the one who…”
I got asked why are you taking away my kids recess. She doesn’t have to listen to you or follow the class to another room. Recess is her time to spend with friends. What time is her recess I need you to call me afterwards.
@@k.brunson400 What!? See, I’m a parent. My son who was 5 at the time and in kindergarten had recess taken away a few times for things like talking when he wasn’t supposed to and things of that nature and I was like “alright, yes, you do whatever you need to do” lol His teacher would come to me and tell me all the things he did wrong that day and all the things he did right. I loved her though she was patient that’s for sure, I don’t know how people can teach kindergarten lol. I am on the teachers side. Not all parents are like that, I’m sorry you guys have to deal with that crap 🤦🏽♀️
It really bothers me that parents don’t understand that they need to “parent” their kids. It makes me wonder if these parents ever even wanted their kids. Seems like they feel their kids are a burden on them, and just dump the burden on the teachers.
This is what I was thinking… They expect the teachers to parent, raise & teach their kids.. all without the ability to be 1-on-1 or be able to punish/parent them. It’s impossible.
They wanted kids for the wrong reasons. They treat kids like accessories to show off on social media and hang out with as mini friends. They rely on school to babysit and electronic devices to occupy and shut them up.
I cannot stand the argument, "I stay for the kids" it's literally what people say in abusive relationships. Because teaching is an abusive relationship. God graced me by getting me out of teaching and in the corporate world before covid. Thank you so much for using your platform to stand up for teachers. I hope that this resonates with the community. Parents' lack of parenting is the issue and that's not something schools should be responsible for or receiving the consequences of.
All of those posts about "schools should teach personal finance ", "schools should teach job searching skill", "schools should teach life skills", etc. What exactly does the parent do then ? At that point, they are just a glorified night and weekend nanny.
@@Alexis-wh2de it would be advantageous for households where the parents never had anyone to teach them and don't know how to learn. I came from a working poor background, and I know, taking an applied mathematics in college, I learned stuff about compound interest and loan terms that I could never have learned at home, and it springboarded me into other things I realized I needed to learn about. Just a few weeks of education at a state college has made a huge difference in my life and my family's life. The problem is, there's only so many resources and only so many minutes in the day
Amen sister. Yes yes yes. "I stay for the kids" has teachers getting no raises and being taken advantage of. Some teachers have too much empathy and end up being abused in negotiations because they "are here for the kids". Those teachers get eaten alive in the shark tank and therefore we all do.
As a homeschool mama, from now on when I get the inevitable comment, "Put your child in traditional school so she can socialize," my response will be to play parts 1 and 2 of this video and force them to watch every minute.
I'm currently undecided on whether or not to send my child to traditional school or keep her home schooled...and this is really pushing me to keep her home.
I homeschooled my children in the 80s and 90s before it got this bad. As a substitute teacher since 2019, I have seen student behavior and conduct that is absolutely horrendous. I could never be a permanently assigned teacher.
This is my last year of teaching - I’m doing everything in my power not to quit before the end of the school year - everything you are saying is 100% valid and I appreciate you SO MUCH ❤️ I’m also so happy you got out 🙌
“Education is a shit show.” This resonated with me SO much. Just as much as when you said “Excuses are made for the child.” This unfortunately is happening everywhere. I don’t teach in the US. I teach in The Bahamas and the CHAOS in the schools right now - it is insane. The disrespect from students AND the heads. The gaslighting from the public. No one cares about teachers. No one understands the stress and the problems. And the kids are bad. Sorry to say it but these kids are bad and part of the reason is the lack of accountability and consequences. Everyone is “but the pandemic”. No. No. These kids were bad before. They are just worse now BECAUSE people are being even more lenient than they were, before. And it - the entire system - is gonna implode.
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“My mom would have snatched my trachea outta my throat.” 🤣🤣🤣 Mine, too. Not every kid need that level of fear to behave (some do, for sure), however, they do need to know there are consequences for their actions. Real life is going to smack them square in the face.
My mom would have known through that freaky parent 6th sense that I even THOUGHT about some shit like these kids have pulled and would have whooped me!!!
Here's what's going to change: there won't be enough real, qualified teachers in classrooms. Then (this is already happening) states will make rules to make it so that anyone with a pulse can be a teacher. Then all of the state tests will have to be either "phased out for the good of the kids" or "paused for budgetary reasons." Students in public schools will have a new "teacher" every month or so (probably less, let's be honest). Experienced, actual teachers will keep leaving education because they will bear the brunt of the shitshow that is the paperwork and "programs" of daily teacher life, because the warm bodies won't know how to do any of it. Colleges will moan and hand-wring because they don't have anyone in their teacher prep courses and because the enrolled students can't read, write, or do science or math. Private schools will make bank and turn out kids with excellent skills, which will make the rich richer and the poor poorer. The class divide will deepen even more. All of this is perfectly foreseeable, but nobody cares because, as you say, it's not hitting anyone in the wallet but teachers. Yet.
11 years ago, I retired early from teaching to protect my physical and mental health. I had some good years, but by the end, the stress was unbearable. You did what you had to do.
Some parents are raising monsters. Some of these kids have no empathy. I had a student with 63 absences. Always in the hallway causing trouble. When we called the mother to say she was suspended she said “y’all disrupting my child education” this girl is the loudest and most disrespectful and disruptive student in the school. Welll one of many. She even assaulted the principal. She’s still there. I’m so DONE with the education system. I’ve been looking for jobs aggressively. I think I would go into the sunken place if I go back in the fall.
The problem is they aren’t raising them at all. They are just letting them get older with poor behavior, lack of accountability, and no concern about their child’s actions and the consequences for it. Some of these kids are prison bound because of their parents not realizing parent is also a VERB.
Please keep in mind that parents are often raising their children by bullying them into obedience. Those same students get out in the world and bully others (or get bullied), thinking that's just how a dog- eat- dog world works. Now, I'm not sure what this "alternative school" she speaks of is, but the school counselor should've been the next step after the county exec encountered the student. Often, for Black students in particular, there's no middle ground between the teachers, admin, and law enforcement, which usually results in the child's psychological needs being ignored through adulthood, which sets them up for failure permanently.
I'm a pediatrician and I am often surprised by how unstructured and chaotic some kids' home lives are. One thing that I heard that stuck with me is that kids act out where they feel the safest. Children will naturally push boundaries but when they don't have a safe adult at home or an adult to teach them appropriate ways to express their emotions, the result is that kids act out explosively at school. It starts young. I see it with my own toddler. She is constantly pushing boundaries at home but is a perfect angel at daycare and that's because we have a safe structured environment at home. It's not just on parents. It's a systemic issue. Parenting is a skill that has to be learned and we as a society are so disconnected from each other. Not to mention that many parents are working multiple jobs to try to make ends meet and don't have the time or energy to parent as well as they would like. The system is broken for sure.
Very true. Economic pressure on parents is leaving kids left to figure it out on their own. But, at the same time, if a teacher is trying to discipline the student for his/her/their best interest and the class, a parent needs to support the teacher. No more excuses.
Although if the parents aren’t willing or able to parent the way they should, then they shouldn’t get in the way of the school disciplining their kids.
@@christineearl6669 Yah and the big problem is. It’s actually the parents responsibility. Too many parents expect school to raise the kid for them. I felt sorry for this poor teacher. Sheesh, no wonder she quit!
I’m a Preschool Director and I had to dis-enroll a child because the DAD threatened one of my teachers. This parent is teaching his child to be a bully. It starts at HOME. I’m glad you are putting your own health first and speaking out about the shit show that is our education system.
Thank you for being the director who listened to your teacher. I had to write up a student for trying to stab me with his fork and his dad said "it's a good thing you are married and don't live alone" because the dad was upset. I legit drove 30 minutes out of my way that night because I was scared he would follow me. Told the director and she said maybe I should have "accepted getting stabbed by the student." Needless to say I went home, told my husband, and he went forward with a complaint. (Military base so he was able to track down his work and speak to command)
I had an English teacher who would have emotional break downs where she would go under her desk and cry for most of the day and no one did anything. Other teachers would just make fun of her and the year I had her she presumably took her life during thanksgiving break because when we got back they told us she passed away but she was far to young to just pass away. The way my high school handled teachers struggling was to threaten to fire them and I as a student at the time was disgusted by how my teachers were treated.
Thing is, when teachers quit in the middle of the year, the admin will arrange plans to find a sub and hire a new teacher. What they DON’T do, is discuss plans to give those students consequences for behaving so inappropriate that their teacher quit. There’s never accountability for the students.
The solution is HOLD THESE PARENTS ACCOUNTABLE 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 It’s sickening!! The parents not going to be happy until they’re teaching their own kids. I give it 5 years before this happen! Then, they’re going to be looking crazy because over 80% of them can’t even help a 2nd grader do their work! That’s why they were crying when school was shut down in 2020. The lack of accountability of parents and students and administration/state cuddling the parents and students are the reason why we have a huge teacher shortage! I’m so sorry you had to experience this!!! 💙💙💙
Amber, you are SO RIGHT!!! It used to sicken me to hear some of these parents complain and whine about having to spend time educating THEIR. OWN. CHILDREN!!! Complain about having to interact and spend time with THEIR. OWN. CHILDREN!!! It's really no wonder why some kids act out the way they do. Kids are not stupid. They can pick up the vibe of when they feel unloved and unwanted, like they're a nuisance or a burden! It aggravates the hell out of me!
No, you don't hold anyone accountable, you let the natural consequences flow and let these people deal with their own kids. It amazed me the amount of bellyaching that went on because people had to have their kids home. I come from a very long line of educators. When the teachers and staff were incapable of dealing with my mild special ed kids (one in not for any behavior but because she had an immune disorder that was tearing her apart) because they didn't like me for holding them accountable for what they do or don't do, I immediately went to essentially a teacher overseen homeschooling model- the teacher was god's gift to children. >I< taught my kids day to day and he filled in once a week and it was a pleasure to do it. But then again my kids were decently raised. Let the chips fall and don't lessen the requirements that kids have to pass and know....things will get "real" in a hurry then.
Sadly, homeschool is becoming the only option for most good parents. You're 💯 right about parents not teaching their kids at home how to behave. It makes teaching their kids at school almost impossible. My heart goes out to teachers who really try and have to put up with this kind of nonsense.
Homeschool (or a derivative of administered by the school district) is the best option nowadays. Let everyone deal with their own kids at home and live with what they do or don't do. In my case the teachers up here were targeting my kid until he sat quietly and didn't do his work (that was his acting out)...and I know that is exactly what happened as I had him wired with a recorder for MONTHS to see exactly what was going on since he wanted to kill himself due to how teachers were acting at school towards him. Homeschooling was the bomb. I raised my kids to be easy if you treat them with a modicum of caring and respect for being human beings. I was happy to do it. My kids weren't the problem, the teachers and staff were the problem. And before you say that there is nothing wrong with the teachers and staff, I have stuff on recording that would curl your toes and make you cry. These teachers apparently got their license out of a cracker jack box. Supposed special ed teachers that can't deal with a quiet, mild special ed kid without abusing him. The parents that make out of control kids also need to be dealing with that at home. See how much they like it. It is total justice all the way around.
I homeschool my children and we love it, for these kids she is talking about… the school is probably the best place for them and the school isn’t showing up for them!
If parents focused on teaching their children discipline, self control and respect, the teachers could teach. Period. Lots of parents just drop their kids off at school and expect someone else to raise them. MOST parents were losing their minds when COVID hit and they HAD to spend their day teaching their own kid. Parents nowadays have discipline and self control issues themselves. Parents coming up to the school trying to fight teachers, cursing, etc.. U.S. education is a hot mess and it is only going to get worse cause teachers are fed up...
We started homeschooling off the bat because we didn't trust the lack of c19 regulations texas was doing. Then we heard what was going on in the schools and now our children aren't going into a school unless there is massive change. It's not safe. There were 6 threats made to our district in the first semester 2 were to what would have been my son's elementary. I still get shit from my husband's family about it (except my mil and fil they are all for it.).
How can we get this on national television!?! For real. Every shred of what she's saying is the God's honest truth. I'm a retired high school English teacher, department chair, and county district evaluator; in for 30 years and out for the last seven. Obviously, nothing has changed anywhere. They chew up teachers, spit them out, and buy some more. She's not even sharing the worst stories that I've lived and watched others live. She's being gentle and understated. I love you, and if you want support in your advocacy, please let me know. ❤️
This is the first time I’ve ever commented on UA-cam. Retired teacher here; and I understand completely. We’ve all been where you are. But I say, “Enough is Enough!” Even though you have left this job; it’s time for you to teach these people a true life lesson. Do you have a union representative? Call them and file a grievance. For sure a class size of 31 students with special needs, without assistance, is out of compliance with both state and federal education codes / laws. Document, and report this to both the county and to the state. As far as the threats and harassment, and physical violence; file a police report (not school police). Lastly, lawyer up; and sue their sorry asses (admin, counselor, the violent student, and their parents). On a personal note, thank you for your dedication to our profession: for our young people’s future; and for being an advocate for all educators. Here’s hoping you and yours stay safe, healthy, and happy.🌺
I agree 110% with Roberta. . RTW does not mean the employer has a right to abuse, ignore or negatively impact your physical and or mental health. This story and the thousands of others shown on this channel and Tik Tok ought to be shown to those bonehead pols in RTW states. These policies are pushing away many generations of teachers : RTW, NCLB, CC, PS and Teach for America ought to be outlawed UNTIL there is a national teacher's union.
@@amymcdowell957 I was union for 15 years and they did nothing to protect the employees. In fact all the democrats the union got elected turned around and sided with our employers when we went on strike. Unions are not the answer. Instead of unions we just need to let teachers represent teachers in contract negotiations and no one else. We need contracts that protect teachers from administration. We need class size restrictions in the contracts. We need protection from students who are not able to control themselves.
As for the pregnant teacher getting punched in the stomach, I would be suing the hell out of the school, the county and the parents. That's assault flat out. Age doesn't mean anything. This exactly why I stopped teaching once I had given birth to my son. Because ain't no"child " about to lay hands on me and not receive repercussions!
I quit last year too. You absolutely nailed it, and I’m glad you called out the parents. I will NEVER send my own children to a public school. I’ve seen too much.
@ Nicole Stackhouse Parents who have the audacity to allow their kids to behave violently without consequences aren’t fit to be parents. I can emphasize with students who struggle academically or suffer from depression and anxiety. But a child who performs physical assault either on students or any adult, it’s not acceptable under any circumstances.
@@angrynoodletwentyfive6463 Taught public school and now teach private. Almost 30k a year school and while the behavioral stuff is not as bad, the kids are just as freaking lazy and slow as the public school kids. Cheating is so bad it’s almost impossible to know if they have retained the content.
16:16 The eye twitch...I feel that!!! Doc told me “just reduce your stress and take this Xanax”. Teacher stress is NOT relieved with a prescription! I made it 13 years before bailing.... Good for you for putting your health & safety first!
One of the moments for me was when you said that teachers who are currently teaching can't speak out, so you have to. This is the 100% truth. I spoke out when I left for the teachers I left behind. I was replaced and nothing changed. It only got worse. Again, like you said, until it affects their pockets, nothing will change. It's freaking horrible. I'm so glad you are taking care of you. Sending so much love! I hope your voice is more effective than mine was. If you need another voice, I'm in.
@@teacheraprilrogers 100%! I get together with teacher friends every Tuesday and I hear the stories. It's absolutely awful. And, like was said in the video, a lot of teachers can't get out.
I've been speaking at board meetings BEGGING for some change or a survey or something. Nothing has happened, no improvements. When we keep trying and get ignored or pushed aside, then no one wants to speak out anymore. When your most valued employees become silent, it should be obvious that there is a major problem.
I think you just decided on your next path, Bri. Whatever form it takes, you’re going to speak out for the millions of teachers who are enduring the most horrendous years of their careers. Peel back the bandages and expose the wounds. Do it with your own style and honesty. You have an army of teachers to testify to your truth. We’re in every state in the country and then some.
It's been my lifelong dream to be a teacher. I am currently majoring in secondary education. But hearing of recent events and teachers quitting so rapidly, I am considering changing my major :( I don't want to put myself into debt just to go into a toxic and chaotic environment.
Consider being a Diagnostian or Speech Path. You can still work in schools and help kids but you have option for outside work in health-care and other settings. I loved my early years as a teacher soooooo much. My last 2 put me out of the classroom for good after 18 yrs. It hurts everyday,but it was the right choice. Much love 2 u 💛
If you continue in education, I would suggest you look at international schools. It is a hit or miss at a lot of them, but since parents are paying for it you tend to have a much higher level of buy in, and resulting respect.
I stopped pursuing my secondary education degree after the fall semester ended in 2021. I fished out the classes I was taking and then at the end of the semester I stopped my education track. I want to be a teacher so badly that I find myself in tears when thinking about my decision to step back. In the end I tell myself that this is what my future could be. I just can’t find any reason (that’s good enough) to make me go back and become a teacher. Under paid, under funded, under respected and under supported. I still think about what my students would be like. How I would decorate my room. I put myself in debt knowing it was something I would be unhappy doing. I had to look at what is going on now (laws being signed, teacher’s opinion and videos like this) and what happened during the pandemic. Also the number one thing that did it for me was how long it would take me to pay back my student loans on a teacher’s salary. I was done. I still consider going back and then I have to go back through and reiterate to myself why the decision was the best decision I could make for myself. I HOPE that the education system grows exponentially in my life time. Because I would be more than happy to finish my degree. I want to teach. But as of right now the education system is too broken for me to take part in. But all that being said I hope that your teaching career is amazing and that your students and faculty are so supportive!! Best of luck!
Girl..u will cry a lot of days. The kids are toxic, the teachers snitch on each other like they are in high school , admin doesn't care etc. Iv been teaching almost 20 years. I just resigned. I can write a book based on my experiences...smh🙄 Developed PTSD in the process...etc. It contributed to the demise of my mental health. As years went on...things got worse and COVID brought it all out
During the week before school started, we had a mandatory training about how to deal with behaviors AND a new platform for documenting behaviors. First things the trainer said was that same sentence along with “It’s OUR job to teach them how to behave b/c parents might be going through a lot”. It made me smirk and roll my eyes almost to the back of my head. She clearly hasn’t been in a regular classroom since 2003 maybe😂
This is the most real and honest talk about a profession in crisis that I have heard. I'm a teacher in Australia and it's not much better here unfortunately.
I can relate to the pregnant story!! When I was pregnant I had a first grader that would throw chairs at me! I was told I couldn’t take recess away and have to reward the child and basically allow the child to do whatever they wanted!!! The child would destroy my room. We would have to evacuate the classroom 3x a day!!!!!
WOW! How frightening for you especially during your pregnancy. I hope you were able to get through your pregnancy without any incidents. My preschool classroom team would have to clear our classroom of our students because of one child's challenging behavior tearing up the classroom. Trying to keep those students safe and managing that other childs behavior. This is preschool mind you. WTH!
My niece also walked out of her elementary classroom one day and never went back for all the reasons you state. She started her own housecleaning company and now makes just was much money with NO hassle at all. She's like a totally different person - happy, content, and loving life again.
I had to resign with no notice. My blood pressure was soaring, i had another UTI, migraines. Made an appt with a therapist. For 2400 a month? Girl, NO. The behavior, the expectations, the stress was killing me. My husband told me to quit. Now.
As a high school science teacher who blew out after 5.5 years, everything you have said is bang on the nose. Thank you for advocating for the teachers who can’t speak for themselves.
HS English. I made it 10. Everything she's saying is dead-on, and that was happening in my school when I quit in 2015. I can only imagine what it must be like now.
I too was a high school science teacher and my body was the one that forced me to leave because my dumb ass was gonna stay in that abusive relationship for many more years. The stress of teaching, both physically, with the 15 hour days, 6 days a week, I had to put in to make sure my kids knew the Information after 40% of my instructional time was taken for standardized testing (that’s a whole other argument), and mentally/emotionally, with the abusive fucking relationship that was Dallas ISD and teaching as a whole. At the end of 2015 my health took a dramatic spiral downward, my immune system destroyed half of my peripheral nervous system and I left teaching and have been fully disabled and unable to work since then, with the exception of finally being able to work part time starting in June 2021. 4 years of teaching left me fully disabled for 5.5 years and unable to even leave my home for 2 of those years. Our education system is fucked and the way kids are behaving in school is a great medaphor for where we are as a society right now. There’s so many problems in society that are contributing to this problem in public school that I’m hopeless for the education system to be better without fully tearing it down and starting over with a new missio . We need smart, innovative people to redesign this system starting from the ground up and taking into account all the bullshit these kids and their parents have to deal with just living in this country right now. There’s hope, it’s just going to be really rough before we reach it, and I think we’re going to end up throwing away the education of a full generation before we get there. Sorry for the pessimism, it’s just genuinely what I believe after almost dying trying to be a good teacher for my students.
Or we can’t because we have administrators checking out every social and anything that a parent decides (even years after you posted) that they don’t like can get you fired. Teachers have to weigh that with every post we make to social media. I got a write-up off of Facebook because I posted about a triathlon I took part in on my personal page and a father of a student was “against women’s sports”. I had to take the post down and apologize to keep my job! A lot of people do have to weigh paying their mortgage and putting food on the table with being the canary in the coal mine and advocating for change. In that situation, we often feel voiceless or like it’s easier not to say anything at all.
Parents say their child does no wrong, don’t want their child upset, always blame someone else, don’t have their child take any responsibility. Here, you can’t keep a child after school. Those flooding the toilets, I’d have them stay after and clean with the custodian. The child that destroys a classroom, I’d keep after and have them clean the room and pay for the materials destroyed. But the system won’t require parents to have to come pick up the child. Now, kids/ families don’t pay for lost library books. They just excuse it. We aren’t setting up the kids for real life where there are consequences, disappointments, etc..Go back to honor roll, try outs for teams, no medals or trophies for showing up. They result is the behaviors / “Karens”, road rage, etc that we are seeing today!
I feel this. My doctor told me a few years ago your job will be posted before your obituary. My millennial daughter and niece refereed to these kids as the no consequence generation and I was like yes 🙌 that’s it.
So you know ..this is not new, sadly. This unbridled disrespect and violence began many many years ago. I went in to education starry eyed and wanting to " make a difference". .about 2000 this all went sideways...no support from parents or admin....I taught 42 years and my last 10 were the hardest. Thank you for speaking out ..
If you are a teacher, the teacher who teaches next door to you is on the same team as you are. Support each other. Do not allow the administration to pit you against each other through mind games, flattery, manipulation, etc. Consider walking out as a whole school or district. Support your unions. Stay strong for each other.
That is so true. They play mind games so we can be puppets competing against each other. So sad. That's why I ignore it and am friendly to everyone. This job not that serious...what are we competing for? Teacher of the year!? It's not going to increase the paycheck! Mind games!
Absolutely!!!! EVERY teacher in America should pick a day, and nationally walk out on their class and drive home. What a BEAUTIFUL vision that would be!!!!!! I support you all so much!!!!!!! Much love and respect!!!❤
Yes , but as long as the wealthy are able to find private schools to cater to their children and their ego's . NOTHING will change . Before majoring in Education I studied Economics = The top 30 wealthiest Corporations and people pay virtually NO TAXES = AMAZON got $$ back !!? SCHOOLS are desperate for that $$- could have paid for Aids etc, etc, Ever since " The Reagan Revolution" and the tremendous slide to the Right- wing - which changed the Tax code in favor of the Rich. All l of our public Institutions have slid down hill at break-neck speed . Until that is changed NOTHING will happen that's positive
"Every excuse is given to the child" So true and tired of this. Being abused verbally and emotionally daily and sometimes physically needs to be addressed. No other workplace would allow this. Stop the excuses. Kids are not being prepared for the real world.
A good part of life is doing something you don't want to do. It's waiting, It's rejection. It's being told no. It's also out of the question. So to raise a child that they are never going to have challenges is crazy and delusional on the parent behalf because in the adult world, that kid is going to meet their match and it is not going to be with loving open arms, soft warm and fuzzy words or an understanding heart.
Everything said here is so true. I just quit teaching after 4 years. It was daunting and I dreaded going there everyday. I had panic attacks and my anxiety was through the roof. I didn’t even want to walk pass the office because admin would pick at us for such small things. My academic coach did nothing but spread gossip about the struggles we had and laugh and look down on us with admin. Those same struggles were the ones she was supposed to be helping with. I had about 10 sped kids in my class of 25 kdg children and it was so chaotic sometimes. There was a child who was extremely aggressive and would try to choke, stab other kids with pencils, on top of that I had a couple other children with special needs who would occasionally try to run out of the classroom. It was a handful. I also had a kid who threw books on the floor. Ran and hopped on top of desks and when I called his parents they would deny that behavior coming from their child. The school never disciplined they would just talk to the kids and send them back with the same behavior saying they couldn’t do anything because they were kindergartners. They would tell me I needed to have more backbone and not let them run over me. It was way too stressful and I couldn’t take it anymore. I left and now I’m trying to salvage what good mental health I have left. Like you said if children know there are no consequences, they are going to do whatever they want. There is only so much disciplining we can do as educators but if admin and parents are not holding the kids accountable then nothing we do is going to make that big a change in behavior. It starts AT HOME. I feel like those who aren’t educators don’t understand either. My friends and family would just laugh it off and say something like “you letting kids run you” or “you’re a softie, harden up a little” it’s not even that. You literally feel like you have no control.
"Did you call her mom" is the question that has pushed me over the edge. We also get a lot of "Did you see it with your own eyes" because apparently even a trustworthy child making a report isn't enough. This is my last year for sure!
My heart started beating faster and my stomach felt like it was in knots listening to your story. I got anxiety from the memory of teaching! I have been retired for 5 years. I think I have PTSD.
I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND because i simply cannot talk about it without quickly going into a "fight or flight" mindset!! My trust and anger issues (neither of which I had before teaching) boil to the surface and make me miserable for the rest of the day.
@ Sherrie P Every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child. If you bring children into the world have have them audacity to defend and make excuses for a kid’s defiant and abusive behavior against other students or teachers, there’s something wrong with you. You’re setting kids up for failure and proving you don’t care about their well-being.
I used to be a “never call a child bad,” adult. Not anymore. The system is so broken. I feel so bad for the students who have not been half raised…and can’t quit. I left the classroom in November.
I did too. I used to just about fight someone for calling a kid bad but not no more! Because the fact of the matter is a lot of these kids are terrible. I work at a facility for sexually traumatized kids and the kids are running the facility. They are allowed to use the trauma as an excuse to terrorize the adults and they know that if we even look like we're going to defend ourselves with out of a job so hands are tied. I'm thankful for my job but I'll be so happy when I'm in a place financially where I can leave.
@yourcousinwhooils When a child occasionally messes up but learns from their mistakes, then they are NOT bad kids. But if their bad behavior is consistent and They don’t seem to care if have remorse and it gets worse, then they ARE bad kids. Is it completely their fault? NO! It’s usually the lack of proper parenting or environment their in. But they ARE bad kids who need help to work on themselves. They need healthy discipline called TOUGH LOVE.
"What can we do to fix this?" Not a damned thing. The system is, as you said, a shit show. There is no bucket of water big enough to wash it away. Best thing we can do is stop supporting this crap. Let the monster die. I got out of that system years ago, and it was bad back then. Wouldn't return, even though they offered tenure. Good on you for getting the hell out. Wish other teachers, social workers, and counselors would GTFO. Parents demand the impossible, admin is insane, kids are beyond control. Walk away, folks. Just. Walk. Away.
I’m speaking as a parent who’s volunteered at my children’s schools. Student behavior is 100% a parenting failure. I have 3 neurodivergent children, I made it clear to teachers and admin if my children weren’t behaving at school I needed to know about it so I can do my part in supporting not only the teachers, but my children. I don’t care if a child has an IEP or a 504 plan, they are educational and behavioral supports not a written excuse for poor behavior. Before anybody calls me out, there is a difference between a meltdown and threatening behavior, there is a difference between a student going into a place of being overwhelmed and a student being violent. My children’s IEPs and 504s included helping them recognize cues that they were getting close to overwhelmed (when they were in elementary school, and I also did my part as their parent to help them recognize their own emotional states), to allow my kids the opportunity to go to a quiet place to cool off or take a couple laps around the building. There are absolutely times that children need to be told to embrace the suck. I support teachers and aide staff working with these kids. They’re amazing human beings taking on a job that I can’t do in an environment that doesn’t support them. I ended up pulling my child out of middle school and homeschooling because I was uncomfortable with how quickly my school wanted to go back to full in-person return, and a few of my teacher friends quit because of the disregard the school board and admin staff had for teacher and student safety. All of this is to say I am so very sad that so many amazing teachers are leaving, I’m sorry your school district didn’t support you. (I apologize for my novella response.)
This level of advocacy empathy and effort is what I hope every day for for every kid with special needs could have genuinely made me so happy I almost want to cry I’ve seen some parents that do an amazing job with the social emotional support of the child with special needs and you see vast change and their behavior an improvement but then you said some just absolutely dropped the ball and you see the effects on the child and you can see the clear signs of stress and you almost don’t react to the behavior and you redirect and you try but apart are you just can’t stop thinking about them and can’t stop thinking what could actually be happening and how much improvement they could make if the parent was more of an advocate for the child
This. I’ve always told the teachers they are free to speak to me about my children’s behavior so that we can correct it. My kids know that we expect them to behave and be respectful at school. I noted it the first time we had a parent teacher conference in kindergarten and the teacher seemed almost afraid to tell us how our kid was doing. I told her, please just be honest. I know my child isn’t perfect and if there are things that need to be worked on, then I need to know so we can work on them at home as well. When I tell you, the tension that left that woman’s body and she sighed with relief. I feel horrible for what so many teachers deal with daily and the treatment they receive from both parents and students. Something’s got to give soon because the shortage of teachers is going to become too much for the system.
I just retired a few years ago, and it breaks my heart that a young teacher left the field so early. I literally have PTSD from the experiences my last 5 years. I'm so sorry, but I'm glad you're out and looking at other careers. You'll be better off in a few years. Love you!!!
A good friend of mine is an admin at a chaotic high school and was pushed by a student. (The abuse is most definitely NOT limited to teachers.) The district suspended him for a couple of days and then decided to return him to the school. My friend consulted an attorney and was advised to file a restraining order again the fully grown student who assaulted her. She took her attorney's advice and filed a restraining order against the student. At that point he could not return to the school. It took ALL OF THAT to ensure her safety at work. What kind of professional job do you fear for your safety every day? These abusive students are abusing everyone: their peers, their teachers and the administrators.
In my opinion, your friend should never have to deal with this student again. Unfortunately, that's not how it works. Your friend should not have to go to work and fear for her safety, in my opinion.
Many administrators do absolutely nothing when teachers tell them how unruly a student is. They don’t intervene when students are threatening teachers or even put their hands on teachers. However, when that same student threatens or hits them they take measures to have that student removed. I’m tired!
The saddest part is, all the time spent dealing with behaviors is time the other kids lose. There are children who want to learn and they have to constantly deal with this nonsense.
Yeah that’s my biggest pet peeve. It hate feeling like I’m neglecting the kids who ARE well behaved and trying their hardest to do well. As the intervention teacher, I always avoid kids with such behavior issues. I only want those who are committed to trying their best, being respectful, and follow directions. I don’t expect the kiddos to be perfect! They’re allowed to make a learn from mistakes. but do expect effort, participation, and respect.
I have an IEP and I KNEW better than to put my hands on a teacher. Teachers and I would tease each other sure but I NEVER put hands on anyone or even yelled at them. If I got mad I would say “I’m going to the hall” and I would breathe and we would talk after about 5 minutes. And my case manager would talk to me. Usually it was a student that annoyed me and angered me but once in a while once in a blue moon a teacher would anger me for no reason. My teachers knew I would sit on the floor by the door to my class and just try to get my head straight and my emotions in check. I never did anything wrong to a teacher. Even when I had one of my autistic meltdowns I would use all the strength in my melting down emotional state to get in the hall and cry. If I had to hit something I would hit the floor with my hands like a toddler. I never put any of this on my teacher. My mom taught me my emotions are my problem first and foremost and I shouldn’t use them on other people. I shouldn’t scream at someone because I’m mad or cry and disrupt everyone just because I’m upset. The worst behaviour I ever did in class was rocking back and forth and quietly stimming. It would weird out some of the typical students but it was necessary to keep meltdowns from disrupting everything and making the teacher have a bad day.
I graduated with a degree in liberal studies in California and was planning on getting my K-6 teaching credential. I did observations at a low income, high crime and poverty area school and saw the behaviors that teachers had to deal with. And honestly most of those issues were because of bad parenting. After my final class, I had an amazing professor that really taught the ins and outs of school dynamics. What is on each person's plate from teachers to administrators to superintendents and how the state board of education really puts people in impossible situations. It was really eye opening and made me not want to continue with my credential. I've also noticed that teachers in America are not paid as well, and are not as highly respected as teachers in other countries. When I visited the middle east and said I was studying to be a teacher, they treated me with the same respect as a doctor, engineer or lawyer.
I’m a first time school nurse and I commend teachers. They have a hard job. And parents don’t even want to deal with their own kids and get mad when we have to call them. No job is worth being unhappy on a daily.
The school to prison pipeline could potentially be eliminated if school admin would stop being afraid of giving these kids consequences! Especially in the upper grades. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve written a child up or asked for help and nothing happened/no help came. It’s unreal.
It's all by design. When they took discipline out of school and start letting kids run the roost without any consequences. That makes kids think they can do whatever they want. Then they grow up that when real life hits him.
They used to disappear the discipline referrals/writeups that I wrote as a teacher. Then they would complain about how unruly my students were all day long.
Girl, you out here speaking truths. You’re hitting the nail on the damn head and trust me this is not just the case in the USA because I’m over here in Europe and to say I relate to what you’re saying would be an UNDERSTATEMENT. I am at a point in my teaching career where I just physically can’t anymore. Anxiety attacks are no longer the exception, they are the damn rule. I know I don’t know you, but I am so damn proud of you for walking away like you did. There’s nothing I want more at this point than to get the hell out of that soul-sucking, toxic-ass hellhole of a school I’m teaching at. Thank you for making this video, for speaking the truth and not holding back! A lot of people don’t realise how bad it is.
Yes! And someone will reward them for their bad behavior. We sent an 8th-grade student to the principal for disrupting class continuously, and he came back to the classroom bragging that he got candy.
I had a student call me a b**** in front of the whole class after I asked her to return to her assigned seat. When I called home about it, the parent basically put the blame back on me saying her kid is going through a lot and I should let her sit where she wants. Just making excuses for the behavior as if I'm the problem. I put in my resignation for next year that day.
I pray, I PRAY, this goes viral so you can have a platform for school reform! It needs to happen. I said, “👏🏽IT👏🏽NEEDS👏🏽TO👏🏽HAPPEN!!” You are exactly right! These kids are OUT OF CONTROL! Make the noise, girl! It’s time.
“Your teachers are having a breakdown and your kids are laughing.” This is sadly so true. My kids just don’t take me seriously because they don’t think there’s any real consequences for their actions
@@mariekatherine5238 EXACTLY! I sent kids out for physical violence constanstly (sub for 3 years K-12), and the office sends them right back in with no consequences.
I can not believe how many 'parents' there are that let their children walk all over them, excuse all their behaviors, and give no consequences because they don't want their kids mad at them. I told my child no to getting something in a store the other day and she put the item back. No argument, no screaming, no crying. Another parent in the isle looked at me absolutely shocked and asked me how I did that. I was dumbfounded. I simply answered that I was her parent, that's how I did that. Unbelievable. You are an absolute saint, thank you for sticking it as long as you did, the kids lost an amazing teacher.
This! This astounds me. I'm a pre-k teacher assistant, and we have at least 4 kids who start tantrums when they're told "no" because they clearly don't hear it at home. They've gotten better since September, but occasionally it's like they have moments where they remember they don't like the word "no" and they'll have a tantrum on us.
@@LadyCapricorn87 oh good lord. I just glare them down. I have told some of them “TOUGH. The answer is no you’ll have to deal with it. But you can go act miserable away from us and come back to me when you are ready to communicate”
I quit in February and it is as if you are telling my story. My sister put it perfectly, I have three things in my life: family, teaching, health. Teaching was costing me the other two. There was no way I could have stayed. All the respect in the world. Warm thoughts and love that your next chapter is better.
My mom taught at a title I elementary school through most of my childhood. She took the assistant principal position when I was older, largely because of the better retirement package, even though she much preferred to be in the classroom. She has her fair share of thrown desk stories and I remember days where she’d come home with huge bruises on her arms where a kid bit her. She told me later about pregnant 5th graders, and stories of angry parents, and how she used to have to ride one particular bus every day because the kids were so awful the bus driver refused to take the kids unless an admin was on the bus to handle the kids. She used to come home every day and there was a rule that no one talked to her for half an hour while she decompressed from the day. She retired right before my senior year of high school to spend time with me before I moved out for college. I graduated in 1999, which was the year Columbine happened, which was the start of a whole different set of changes for education. She swears up and down if she doesn’t think she could work in a school today, and she’d most likely have home schooled me if I were in school today, things being the way they are. It’s really sad, I think, that they’re making it so hard for people who honestly want to teach to actually do it.
“Admin is scared of county office, county office is scared of these parents, these parents are scared of their kids, and these kids ain’t scared of no one.” BEST. QUOTE. EVER.
I’m so sorry this was your experience, and I’m grateful you put your health first. I can’t imagine being brave enough to speak up because that is so hard in and of itself, and then to be ignored. Ridiculous. Did the counselor ever apologize for ignoring your email?????? 😒 And these poor kiddos. We have to do better for our teachers and students ❤️ Thank you for being courageous and sharing your story. I know you’re speaking for many teachers who cannot.
That quote sums it all up
That’s so true everywhere
This 👏right👏 here 👏
Been saying this quote for years. I'm suffering bc your class is my current 5th grade. I dread every morning. If I could afford it, I would be gone.
I screamed "exactly" at my computer screen when she said that. I think they heard me outside.
My beloved English teacher took her own life my Junior year. She was kind, patient, loyal, and above all an amazing teacher. She used to chastise me for reading too far ahead of the rest of the class and would bring in baked goods her mother made for us. Every quarter she wrote letters to us students telling us what she enjoyed having us as students. They were short, but they were personal and I still have one tucked safely away in a box. She was only 30. I will never forget you, Ms. Heilman. And I will never forget all of the other amazing teachers in this country who deserve so much better.
this is heartbreaking. Thank you for honoring her!
Honor from some of my students are my lifeline for years after they have graduated
So sad 😭
This is because of no support from Admin!
😢😢😢
When people ask me what the hardest part of my job is (being a teacher) I always tell them: “it’s caring about the kids more than their parents do.”
@Aye See
I would say, is wanting for much for these kids but the current system making things harder.
Truth!
I just said that today.
OMG, yes!!! We have to be their parent, psychiatrist, and teacher.
Now This 👆🏿👆🏿👆🏿👆🏿👆🏿
When teachers are out in the hallways trying to monitor a single child, all the other children who are doing the right thing are paying the price with the quality of their education. Teachers needs more support ASAP
Agreed! This is sad and disturbing on every level. I hope that kid has a real turning point before she really hurts someone and probably already has outside of school. And the behaved kids are gonna fall behind while the bully demands the attention.
Exactly.
@Suresurely
Yes! Since it it a circus and I KNOW there’s no accountability, I as a reading intervention teacher refuse to take kids with behavior issues.
I can deal with the slightly chatty, but if they have a reputation for being rude, disruptive towards me and other students, cannot follow directions, or even TRY to do the work for 30 mins, they’re dropped and replaced! Period!
My goal is the work with the struggling kids….who WANT to learn to help them make growth and improve. I’m not there as a babysitter so their regular teacher can have a break from them.
My husband is an elementary teacher makes a great point. Back when we were kids, if our parents got a phone call from the school, their response would be “what did he/she do?” Now when the school calls a parent, the parent responds “what did the teacher do to make my child respond like that?” Parents are lazy, entitled and do not want to discipline or hold their kids accountable for their actions. I’m so ashamed of my generation’s parenting. 😩
Yes!!! Yes!!! I'm with you!! My kids knew good and well that if I got a call from the school, they were going to get their butts in it with me when they got home! Where'd the parents go?!
Same here. My generation--those a bit older and younger than me--are a colossal embarrassment to parents everywhere.
What went wrong?
I had a parent b*tch me out on the phone for "nagging" her son and asking him to do things he didn't want to do.
there are so many times where the parents are just as bad! worked at a HS- we've had parents threaten to fight kids bc of how their child was treated by another kid... meanwhile the issue is 2 sided. they come in yelling and cursing out staff and faculty based only on what their child has told them
Often the child is a mirror of the parent.
This is what happens when parents do not PARENT their children, do not hold them accountable for their actions, and do not give them consequences. I've had ENOUGH of parents these days. Kids need STRUCTURE, BOUNDARIES, and CONNECTION with their parents. It is WORK to be a parent, and this job canNOT be outsourced to teachers!
Parents have turned over responsibility to the schools, and expect - demand - schools to raise the children.
AGREE!! But it needs to be done with love. When I hear of children behaving that way it makes me worry about what kind of home life they have. But you are right teachers are there to do a job not be their Mamma. AND why is our educational system funded with property taxes? It should be equal across the board so maybe school districts could staff schools properly and provide a safe and, dare I say, pleasant work environment for the people who are responsible for shaping our future?!
I call it, Free Range Parenting
Say it LOUDER! The education system is broken because our families are broken. We could largely fix the education system and a significant portion of the mental health crisis if we prioritized building and maintaining strong family relationships. Parents cannot outsource parenting!
@@jeepstergal4043 exactly. They do the same to churches. "I'm not gonna teach my kid morals and religion. I'm just gonna dump them in Sunday school, Kid's Church, and/or youth group and let the church handle that stuff." Same with teachers. "I'm not gonna make sure my kids are learning what they need to learn by checking their homework and reading any communications from their teachers. I'm just gonna dump them at school, pick them up, and let them play and goof off the rest of the day and trust that they're getting a good education." IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT!!! You still have to reinforce what your kids are learning in those environments, and help fill in the gaps!!
This needs to be a Ted Talk : Teacher Retention & Teacher Wellness . The conversation needs to be addressed on a larger scale . Our educators are stressed and suffering so their must be a shift in support so that the choice between what you’re passionate about and your peace does not need to be comprised. Parents and students need a higher level of accountability! Thank you for your vulnerability and continued success in all that you do and on your path of healing.
Agreed
Yea 👏🏾
I agree, but there are too many people that simply do not understand the stress of being in a classroom with students all day. Those that need to hear it are the same ones that say teachers complain too much. (30 year teacher here)
Yes! We all need this as a Ted Talk.
YES PLEASE!!!! You have the PERFECT Ted Talk!!!!!
I’ve never felt so understood in my life. I’m so miserable and I can’t leave yet. No one in my circle gets it. I can’t thank you enough for making these videos. Every day is hard.
You are NOT alone! I hope you can make the step to leave. I told myself I would not leave my current job until I have something else that provides healthcare lined up for me. It's so bad here that I've made a plan B, preparing myself for leaving in a month and losing my health insurance while I work a different job. I hope you can do what's best for your mental and physical health! You will feel much better when you get to leave that space. Best of luck ❤
How is everything going now?
@@RoaringMind better. Worth it. I'm making less money and don't have health insurance but it's honestly worth what I left behind. I am a substitute, so I have control over my schedule and I still get to work with kids. Going to so many different schools, I get to see how so many different schools are. They aren't all this bad! Which also gives me hope.
Maybe if you ever wanted to leave, you could get something in higher education there are many jobs that I am looking at where you need some type of teaching experience.
Higher education is in a crisis situation across the country. Colleges are closing and many are being laid off. :(
"Just because a child has an IEP does not give them a license to do whatever the hell they want" 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Teachers is TIREDDDDDD and the excuses are WEAK!!! I used to be hurt when teachers would leave the profession. Now I cheer them on.
I think better mental health services, and systematic support for neurodivergent kids and teachers would help A TON. As a student who is neurodiverse, I can 100% agree it is not an excuse for being a shitty person, even if it may be the reasoning. (Saying why something happened is not the same as excusing the behaviour. Saying why is answering the question, so we can make sure the behaviour doesn't repeat.)
When people act out, it is usually for a reason. So if everyone was treated fairly, and the system wasn't neurotypical/alistic tyranny, combined with ARMED COPS, the outcomes wouldn't be so harsh. Yes, kids need consequences to bad actions--but those actions need to be clearly defined, defined as to WHY they are bad, and healthy alternatives and actions MUST be given. And, the consequences should be REASONABLE, not legal most of the time. Criminalizing every little misstep a kid takes helps nothing.
If you only punish, nothing will happen. Nothing will change--hence why we have the school-to-prison pipeline, and so many human rights abuses in schools.
Students are forced to literally ignore their biological clock, so they are chronically sleep-deprived 24/7, they are over-worked, and they also have this whole new system of feelings and body changes that nobody is actually helping them deal with other than telling them to just stop. This on top of being told the way your brain is wired is wrong and broken, systemic racism, sexism, homophobia, and dress code sexualization--alongside corporal punishment (aka, excused abuse)--it's no wonder kids act out!
So, while actions have consequences, just remember that the system sets them up to fail--and it hurts everyone, including staff and teachers. So let's get to the root of the issue and not just blame CHILDREN.
@@ErutaniaRose all of that is fine, but if that’s the issue they don’t need to be in the regular setting until they have their needs meet, they are properly socialized, and proper safety measures are met. IEP’s are used as a license to TERRORIZE students and teachers and it’s not right. Everyone’s advocating for THEM, but who is advocating for the teachers and the neurotyoical students.
I had one child look me dead in the eyes and tell me "I haven't had my meds this morning...I am not responsible for my behavior today." She was 8 years old....
@@elainepeters8771 o wow!
This!!!! My son has an IEP and I dare him to act like a dam fool. Teachers have our kids more than us and should be treated with the same respect as a parent.
As a 6’2 black man who formerly taught in the inner city, that story about the male teacher and that little girl hit home. I found myself having to remain humble and damn near get punked by children on a constant basis. There was no way these kids had a chance against me but they knew what they could get away with. It’s safe to say I choose my sanity over the profession.
I get it. I've literally become a lawyer 2 protect myself fm these students, parents, & admin. Still, as I win the battles, I lose the war. I transfer annually bec I'm put on admins hit list as the teach who shuts down admin, mk them nervous. Lk u I chose my sanity, transition new 2 new career.
@@d.h.dd.h.d.5230
Yep, they don't have fear of teachers! (And teachers are told this is our fault ("classroom management!" "Relationships!") even when students don't show fear even toward a big guy like you.) So then the behaviors just escalate and aren't dealt with. This is all truth. Glad you're happier now.
I can’t imagine investing tens of thousands of dollars to go to college and get my teaching degree and then dealing with these problems. You’re doing the right thing spreading awareness. Something needs to change.
It gets better. A Missouri school system pays $25,000 to first year teachers. Imagine trying to live on $25,000, paying off student loans and putting up with this treatment.
EVERYTHING. Everything needs to change.
@@kenyonbissett3512 My first teaching job in Iowa paid $24k. During the housing market crisis. 🙃
@@JennyEliz_IstheShiz I wish I could say I was shocked at your pay. Probably make more with DoorDash Or Instacart. And, they call teachers greedy for wanting more pay. 🤦♀️
It took me 8 years to get my bachelors degree. I wanted to be a good influence and try to inspire kids. I have been in shock since I started working. My heart is broken.
When my son got in trouble at school, I gave him 1 warning. A few months later, he got in trouble again. He came home and EVERY THING he loved in his room was gone. From PS, TV, VR, posters, toys, clothes, shoes. The only thing left in his room was the stuff he didn’t really wear. I also bought him some shoes from Walmart. I told him he wasn't getting his stuff back until the end of the school year and he had to have a B average.
I emailed all my kids teachers with all my info including work info and husband's info too. I don't mess around especially when it comes to respecting adults.
My kids hated me when I joined the student governing counsel board, and was the equity council lead. 😈 I'm raising respectful kids, even if i have to scare the respect into them.
You are being a responsible parent…I took my children games and tv and nothing but homework and reading a book until the weekend…and then only if they maintained a “B” average…the rest of their school life until they graduated high school.
Both finished university without anything else I need to address related to academics or behavior. Continue to be consistent…this is what love looks like in real life ❤
On behalf of educators everywhere and your child’s future self - thank you for doing what needs to be done ❤
If only all parents were like that.
I can't believe people are actually agreeing with you. You seriously take away your children's possessions instead of communicating with them and talking about the issue? Incredibly weird, childish and toxic. As someone with abusive parents, who have also done this kind of thing by the way, I have never learned anything from that, because instead of "learning from my mistake", I was dealing with unnecessary anger, sadness, disappointment, and most importantly: feeling like absolute crap and hating myself for the person I was. Instead of them finding a solution that could work out for both of us, they did nothing but destroy or take away my possessions. You'd be surprised how traumatizing that is, trust me on this. A child is going to remember this shit and not in a good way. I don't care how old you are, I am in my twenties so this is my experience and it's valid. I'm not taking any shit from older adults who are going to invalidate my PERSONAL experiences. What I do care is that parents should f*cking talk to their kids and actually check up on them. Ask them what's goin on. Learn how to communicate with your child cause it's actually embarrassing to see parents like you talk about stuff like this in such a casual manner. My parents (and many other parents it seems) are incredibly incompetent when it comes to communication and especially with the children. Your comment is a prime example of what happens when parents never communicate with their children and then will be butthurt when the kids drop them in a few years.
You are talking from an abusive standpoint. Of course, your viewpoint is skewed. These parents already communicated their standards, and they kept getting in trouble. Action is needed at this point.
Kids don't have to have luxuries, especially if kids continue to disrupt the school classroom. Your child would be ruining the quality of the other student's education. Talk is cheap! These kids that act out would ride you and take you over if you let them. If as parent only believe in gentle parenting, you may be picking up your kid after a stint in Juvenile Detention.
As a parent of a SPED student, I hold my son accountable for his actions/behaviors. I stand firm with discipline. ( yes if he misbehaves I take away IPad, computer, tv etc and we talk about what happened) I do not let him use his ‘disability’ as a reason not to treat other classmates and teachers with respect. I wish more parents would take back parenting their kids. Kids get away with too much these days.
I am a special education teacher and I genuinely commend you on this. There’s a difference between a disability effecting a child and blatant rude and disrespect. You rock mom!
Thank you. You model how parents should be raising their children.
Too often I see students have no discipline for actions they make. Back when I was in school a student assaulting someone was grounds for expulsion. Now, I’ve seen student hit another student out of nowhere and get time in “restorative circles” or maybe a few days of ISS (In School Suspension). I’ve even seen students threaten fights or similar actions with no intervention.
When a student looks at a teacher and says they need to have X because it’s on their plan, not saying they need X to do Y effectively, it gives too much power to students
@@leej1759 I get frustrated about this too. One of my kids genuinely acts worse at school than at home. And I know they don't believe me, because that is what parents "always say". But it's true! At home we don't let his misbehaviors slide. And I feel bad for the teachers that would be stricter with him if the school would allow it.
Thank You!
Same here! Teachers job is to teach and our job is to parent. I do not expect my child’s teacher to be his parent. Am I perfect, far from it! I try everyday to be a better parent.
As a nurse, the parallels to healthcare and education is astounding to me. It all comes down to lining their pockets off the hard work of others.
1 goddamn hundred!!!! 💯💯💯 speak on it!!!
I was thinking the same thing hearing this story
yep
I have that discussion with my doctor- often. She tell's me something; some reason she is blocked from referring me to a specialist, etc and it's always a parallel to something that happened at my school that week.
Healthcare & Education need the most support. Otherwise we don't really have much of a society.
100%. Good education and good healthcare is a fundamental requirement for a happy and successful life. But what systems are the most broken? Education and healthcare. Nothing improves in society until we decide to start reasonably funding both systems and stop treating our teachers and nurses like garbage. You can’t overwork, underpay, gaslight and hang out to dry your front line heroes in two very critical industries and expect everything to keep running smoothly. Both systems are on the verge of collapse if something doesn’t give.
I literally had a parent in a SPED meeting on Zoom tell us, “ Everytime y’all suspend him, you guys are punishing us when he’s home.” I was floored when I heard that. Unbelievably incredible.
There is so much wrong with that sentence! If you see your own child as a punishment, there is something wrong at home!!!! Fix that, don't expect teachers to do it for you
That's a funny way of saying "Thank you teachers because you're brave enough to do the work that we as parents can't / won't do." I believe appropriate respect is due to teachers instead of treating them like nothing.
"And now you know how we feel, 5 days/week, as long as your child is on school property. Your child now needs to stay home. If you cannot come to school to pick her/him up, our school police office will give them a ride home. "
That’s because to her their peace is more important than yours. Secondly, they can’t control him and get a break when he’s in school. Ma’am, your son is punishing us in school daily. Now tag, you’re it.
DeShaun, and THAT IS THE PROBLEM! 🎯 This all starts AT HOME!!
People who say there's no such thing as bad kids, just bad behavior. They have bad kids 💯
Run for office. I'd vote for you! I'm a 14-year veteran teacher and everything you're saying, I say. We say. All teachers say. We need teachers to run for office and step into the roles where the decisions are being made.
Yes!!
This ☝🏼
Yes! I’m not a teacher and I’d vote too!
Yes!!!!
Amen!
When I was 7 months pregnant, I had an 8th grader threaten to push me down the stairs. Admin asked what I did. 2 out of 5 teachers refused to remove her “status” because it had to be my fault. Other students looked at me and said, “she’ll never respect you and she’ll do it if she’s angry enough.” I walked out, got early maternity leave, and never went back into a physical classroom and I never will. My child is now 6 years old.
that’s wild.
@speakmymind2392
As much as I love my job and respect the strict rules about touching kids, I would NEVER in my life allow any kid to push me to the ground or down the stairs.
A student can scream at me, call me names, cuss at me, but the day they put their hands on me hurting me, I am going to defend myself. I’ll take getting written up over being injured and having to do to the hospital.
“And the kids aren’t scared of anyone” SO TRUE. I’m so glad you’re taking care of yourself. And thank you for speaking up about what so many of us experience. Sending love!!
Yes!! So TRUE!! I am a parent myself and I talked to other fellow teachers about this and they think that it’s our job, as teachers, to also PARENT their child?? Absolutely not
These kids just do not care and they’re so disrespectful and we’re being told to parent them ?? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I can’t. I can’t. And I understand why you don’t want to keep staying for your mental health
100000000 percent! I have asked students what they think works and they have told me NOTHING!!!!!
Sooooo true!! These kids have no fear of consequences because the consequences aren't real... they get away with everything!
I've been preparing to leave this profession for good. Tired of listening to my friends having fun after work...I'm going to be with them too!
I was such an animated teacher. I taught on my feet wandering the classroom, helping students. As I gradually became sick over the years. I spent more time at my desk; I brought in a bar stool to teach from. Eventually, I taught from my chair. I’ve had to quit teaching and retire on disability. When I talk to my colleagues, they tell me that I got out just in time. It’s getting rough.
Hi Bri,
I managed ( barely) to make it through my 33rd year of teaching! I retired on June 2nd, 2022. My last year was unbelievable- I taught Senior English, Creative Writing, Technical Writing, Spanish 1 and another “class” called Employability ( which required another prep from me). Creative Writing and Technical Writing were only supposed to be for one semester ( and each of those 2 classes) were only supposed to be for 1 semester and I was only supposed to have either Creative Writing OR Tech Writing NOT both at the same time! In January of last school year there were times when I did not think that I would make it to the end of the year. I needed to last until the end of the year to get my pension. I finally retired at age 70!!! Bottom line ( in my opinion) ALL of these districts are afraid of getting sued by the parents!! I cannot even begin to tell you some of the disrespect that I experienced in my 33 year career. At one school district, one of my students threatened to beat me up and he was still on my roster the second semester! Obviously, that was a terroristic threat to me and he should NOT have been in my class. Anyway, I made it and retired on June 2,2022 at 70 years of age. Elizabeth Clark
Congratulations on making it to retirement! My parents are retired teachers. My mom taught 4th grade and my dad high school then college. My sister is also a teacher and nearing retirement. God bless.
That load sounds ridiculous, and during your last year at that. Congratulations on making it out!
God bless you! Enjoy your retirement!!
I couldn’t make it. My mental health has been suffering for the last few years & only got worse during Covid. I’m losing out on 15% of my salary because of school system.
Thank you Ms. Clark for your years of service and commitment to public service. One teacher to another.
Teachers don’t write kids up because they are sick of admin not doing anything about the students behaviors. It becomes a waste of time/slap in the face when you write up a student 10x and absolutely no consequences are issued.
REAL TALK!!!!!!!!!!
The worst part about it, is that you can have a stack of detailed documentation (emails with parents, parent/teacher conferences, student statements, phone logs, work samples) and nothing still happens.
True
Yup!
This. It's a vicious circle. They won't send them to alternative schools without the write ups and the teachers won't write them because they know they are a waste of time and nothing will be done. Then to top it off, the teacher gets blamed or told they are writing too many referrals. If someone would ACTUALLY give a few consequences the kids would get the message. The district I retired from decided teachers were referring too many black kids (in a majority black school district) and we were told to handle more in our classroom. We didn't care what race the kid was, it was behavior like what Brianna just described that was getting kids written up.That same district had a policy that unless the parent agreed, we couldn't send any kid to alternative school.
Thank you for saying that an IEP doesn't give a kid a license to do what they feel! I have been teaching that for years. I am a SPED teacher with a 24 year old high-functioning autistic son. My son is in college. Trust me. All children need discipline and boundaries. Having a disability, exceptionality, or challenge doesn't give you a visa to act like you have no home training.
I am so sorry that you went through this experience. You are absolutely right. Your health comes first. Please be our spokeswoman on this matter.
I am a high functioning autistic person and I find boundaries help me. Boundaries and rules from others and that I now use. I need to learn social skills and such similarly to school subjects. Thankfully I have a brain 4 school style learning otherwise I'd be impossible to talk to.
We as parents HAVE TO HOLD OUR CHILDREN ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS!!! I have mad respect for teachers answering the call to teach, because, for sure, it's DEFINITELY a calling!!! I'm so sorry you had such horrible experiences, hon and so thankful that you put your health and family first!! I thank God every day for our teachers because ya'll do NOT GET PAID ENOUGH to deal with all that ya'll have to deal with!!! School is NOT a daycare, your children are there to receive an education! Continued prayers for those that are still in the teaching profession and for those who had to give it up because their health and sanity depended on it!! MAD love for all of ya'll and THANK YOU, hon, for bringing awareness to this situation!!! God bless!!!
@ Deidre Danker
Yes. It makes me disappointed that after a tragedy like the covid pandemic……with schools being closed and kids having limited resources, that parents and society still don’t show enough compassion. There’s people that contribute so much to society and many take it for granted. Aside from teachers, think about everything that school nurses, after-school program supervisors, teacher assistants, cafeteria workers, and school psychologists do for our kids! Now go back to the year 2020 remember how it felt it was almost taken away.
I remember when I was a kid parents had to all take a turn coming in for a day to be a classroom assistant and I tell you this, IT CHANGED things. Parents need to see what the hell these kids are up to at school. They need to bring that back.
That would be great right now with this teacher shortage.
Ooooh that’s funny!!! Parents are full aware of how their children act . Bc they act the same way at home with them. They aren’t angels at home and all of a sudden become holy terrors at school. Parents could give a damn. They feel they teachers problems for eight hrs. Then are left in after school program until after dark. So when they get them it’s bed be gone.
That's a good idea but my kid's school will only allow a parent to sit in the class for 15 minutes so as to not "distract" the students.
ON GOD THIS IS FACTS there used to always be a parent in the classroom once a month
Interesting
I love this woman! She is absolutely right. Schools are dysfunctional.
This is what happens when you take Holy Bibles & prayer out of school. Holy Bibles were taken out of schools in 1954 in this country(America). There weren't school shootings like there are now, of coarse there were some fights & bullying. It has only gotten worse since then. Bring the Holy Scriptures back & teach about how choices lead to positive or negative consequences.
@@myeshareynolds9624 Freedom of Religion is a thing. I am a Jew. Please save your Bible comments. Not everyone worships the same. Also, based on the US Constitution, one of our greatest freedoms is Separation of Church and State. Bibles have no place in schools except parochial schools run by religious organizations.
@@haliburley4153 No. I will NOT save my Holy Bible comments. Religion was created my man. Not God. God has his chosen people and does not want any to perish. Both Hebrews & Gentiles only come to the Heavenly Father by becoming born again and accepting Jesus Christ and what he did on the cross ✝️. God's laws ALWAYS overrule man's laws.
Spare the rest of us your ignorance & negative comments. If you really were a Jew and a true follower & believer in the Lord you wouldn't say such things. I suggest you get into The Holy Scriptures and serve God and not man. God bless you ✝️
@@myeshareynolds9624 oh good grief. Because the bible is one if the most sadistic demonstrations of arbitrary violence known to man…. And almost entire committed by GOD. The Bible is so screwed up, if we lives
“Biblically” is would be a dystopian hellscape where women were barely human, chattel property, and slavery was totally cool and normal. Remember- neither God now Jesus had a peep to say about how evil slavery was.
Keep your bible in in your church. If you really think ifs that’s important get off your-tube and and spend all your free time reading, studying and memorizing it. How much time did you spend teaching it to your kids in your home? Or did you just break out the few parts you likes to use to scare/intimidate/ and control them or justify your own self righteous bigotry? Were you a Sunday Christian, or just a “Christmas and Easter” Christian?
Parochial schools exist. I think history has made it clear that they are no more the answer to society’s ills as anything else to do with religion, but if you still need to believe that then you are more than welcome to send your little sinner to one and continue the time-honored tradition of wondering why leaving your parenting responsibilities up to a book of myths and a bunch if men and women who have never even raised a kid among them has’t magically fixed your bUdding psychopath, by all means, it’s America, and saving you or your offspring from your stupidity would be UnAmerican, now wouldn’t it? 😂
I agree. I’m not Jewish, but I respect that people (students, staff, everyone) in schools or elsewhere should be allowed to follow their religious faiths.
"Just because a child as an IEP does not give them a license to do whatever they want!" Yes! YES YES YES! I am a mother of a HF-ASD and I cannot preach this concept enough! I don't need something to baby my child and to let them run the school. Love on them, ABSOLUTELY! But do not coddle them and let them run all over the school. If you do that then I have to try to "teach" or "prepare" them in the college setting. Hmm... How am I supposed to prepare a student to work in the healthcare field at a technical college when for the last 13 years they've had Z-E-R-O responsiblities beyond being free to do whatever they want? Hey Best Friend I see you! Mental Health first!
Exactly. IEP and 504 students have the right to supports for their success. It’s not a free pass to disrupt the learning of the rest of the class on a regular basis.
As a sped teacher, this is spot on!!
Here here. Mom of HF-ASD and college faculty. This 👆👆👆Students are amazed that they can actually fail classes. They’re surprised when “no late work” means no late work. But they learn, adapt and thrive in their environment once they have boundaries.
@@mydogzmom5058 AMEN
@@karterlangston324 I am EC TA
"If you die at work, they just gonna replace you the next day." You are right. Workers in every job have to realize their supervisors will never prioritize their safety the way we must. (Think of the warehouse workers who weren't allowed to leave when a tornado was approaching.)
At what point do we as teachers completely shut a school down because we walk out? This is my first year in middle school, 3rd year overall, and I cannot deal with the behaviors. I’m so close to doing this myself. There are no real consequences at school and clearly none at home. The disrespect is offensive and overwhelming.
I agree friend 😢
I’m there with you, and I’m not even in a situation close to what my brothers and sisters are in education. But I can see the storm clouds on the horizon, and it will be next year.
I think that is exactly what has to happen.
they have a liberal army of teachers ready to take your place. Parents need to stay on the school boards, show up in force. The real problem is all our tax money needs to go to the states, so they don't need the federal funds and the strings that they attach to them. All the CRT comes from the Dept of Education and the funding, then the private funding from special interest that premote the porn books in your elementary school libraries.
The worst reply that I have heard from admin is when they say that it's a lack of teachers building relationships with students...really???
I may not of been a teacher, I was a bus driver and I feel all of this to my core. I quit too. Enough is enough. We couldn’t do squat. Bravo! Stand up. Preach.
She's right she's right, I'm a teacher for many years in Urban area for years ; and, I had to walk too .. I had 40 kids 5 classes per day
Kids fighting in classes in the hallways, the other kids was only protection
Yesss, bus drivers have it hard too.
I am not a teacher or bus driver. I don't have kids but KNOW that bus drivers and anyone working kids have it hard. It's not right.
The US should do what Dept of Defense Schools did in Japan. If your child rode the bus, you or someone you paid had to ride as a bus monitor one week in the school year. This worked very very well. You had to be a bus monitor or your child could not ride. This was done by the Dept of Defense
HOW ABOUT STOP ROBBING FROM LEGITIMATE PARENTS TO PAY THESE BABY MOMMAS and these public school teachers. My family wants nothing to do with the lot of you.
I left teaching after 14 years. You absolutely nailed it with your observations. Public education is failing. There will be no teachers left. There are already no subs, no bus drivers, no paras - admin needs to wake up. Who will teach these kids? Not me. Ever again.
This is the worst attitude to have.
What if we all gave up on our children. Then where would they be.
@@qshebacarr57 Why is walking away after 14 years the worst attitude. After 14 years, I chose me and my mental health.
It’s all a forest. Ppls (Admin/SchBoard) aren’t being held accountable for their actions and if you speak out against the foolery. You’re the scapegoat and toss out on your head for doing so. Admin sucks all the while teachers are running away in groves bc they see its a losing battle. You’re damn if you do and dammed if you don’t…Zoo all day.
@@qshebacarr57 We’re in agreement on that. I’m a teacher at heart and it’s so hard to be a teacher without a classroom. But teaching isn’t about teaching anymore. It feels more like having to raise children who aren’t yours, because parents aren’t teaching basic character traits such as respect and kindness. And we can’t hold them accountable because we might hurt their feelings and make them sad. We’re given completely unrealistic expectations by people who haven’t been in a classroom in YEARS. The problem is so complex - at this point, I don’t know what the solutions are. But maybe start with accountability. For ALL. Not just teachers. 🤷♀️
Teachers r leaving my districts because they're out number in core class 1:37 & elect 1:50. Legis is stealing the funds needed 2 implement class sz amend, fund edu, & reduce prop taxes. The Lottery we voted 4 n FL md $40B & gave edu $1B over 20 yrs. We were promised 20% & get
“This girl has not been given any consequences” and yet she is expected to change her behaviour. You are such a strong and inspirational human. Thank you for your courage and voice. I’m in Australia and we are experiencing the same problems. Unfortunately because out parents so afraid to be anything but friends to their kids, they are failing them and blaming the teachers, because they expect us to be the disciplinarians. They are refusing to hear is when we say this has to come from the home.
So glad my kids grew up with a teacher as a parent, and I’m sure their teachers say the same!
The problem begins at home, period. My generation was taught that if we got in trouble at school, we were in trouble at home. Over the years, some parents decided to become friends with their children rather than a parent. Note that there are some, not all.
Well, I came from a home where you were abused if you set a toe out of line. School was honestly safer to get into trouble, although the kids I was in with were horrible little psychopaths too, so that tended to keep me in line--that and knowing Guidance counselors would make it worse. So my point is, I had educated parents who were **very** involved. So involved in fact, that a minor infraction had the same response as if Bin Laden himself had attacked. My parents did everything ''right'' and their abuse was untraceable and undetectable. So, not sure about when yours was but a lot of generations of, um...involved parents are not necessarily the solution if it's not the right way.
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Spare the rod, spoil the child. Pure & simple ✝️
@@grumpydruid8372 .. I experienced abuse from my father, but unlike you. Mine was emotional, not physical. My biological father (my parents divorced when I was 12) put a lot of pressure on my older brother to get good grades. My brother struggled because of this pressure. My mother decided that my father would not treat me the same. Somehow, she protected me. I didn’t have the added pressure and good grades were easy for me. My father’s mantra was, “Even if you earn an A, you can do better.” As a teen, I figured out that he was a taker, not a giver. Decades later (I’m in my 60s), I do not have a relationship with him, although I didn’t suffer the same abuse as you.
“Ain’t no job in this world that’s worth your health…not a single one!”
🙌🏻PREACH!!🙌🏻
Just left my job in the mental health field for the same reason…I know it’s different from teaching, but I still relate to soooo much of what you’re saying!!!
Absolutely. These let's play administrators is a joke. These are the stupidest people you ever want to meet or work with, Store-bought degrees and all.
I was an OT for 10 years. My mental health progressively went to hell. Never again.
Amen.
As a student this makes me so sad. I see my peers acting up and I wish I could do something becouse I want you guys to feel loved and safe in ur own classrooms
I really feel badly for students like you. That’s injustice.
The best you can do is to advocate for better mental health care for both teachers and for the student body. Students who "act up" are 99.99% of the time doing that as a call for help. Simply asking for help is often ignored, shunned, or even, at times, punished or shamed. This can be traumatizing on top of whatever trauma requires them to seek help in the first place. Doing things that give them control over others helps them to feel more confident that everyone around will be too scared to either attack or neglect them. This definitely includes teachers, as they get grouped into the same box with abusive adults in their personal lives: "if I don't outsmart or intimidate this person, then he or she is in a position to hurt me, so I must show everyone that I mean business."
Trauma puts the sufferer and everyone else around them in difficult positions. The only way out of it is through awareness and availability of therapy. Please encourage your school board to make therapy more widely available, easier to access. Please also encourage your peers to talk to someone they trust who is trained in therapy. They may reject the idea and take it as an attack, but the idea will most likely stick with them.
You can…. Get all the students that want to be there and learn to fight back. Take your school back. Take your right to an education back in a peaceful situation! Bully back the bullies that disrespect & disrupt the classroom
As a teacher, thank you!! Students like you make me feel like I am making a difference!! Never change.
And it’s because of students like you I won’t give up! ❤️🥹😢
The part that really got me was “the teacher could be having a breakdown and the kids will be laughing at them”. Literally happened to me not long ago. I already made the decision to leave; I just need another job first cuz I get paid so shitty I can barely pay my bills let alone save anything.
That's why I am still in it but this is my last year 100 percent.
Pray and have faith. God will open doors that no man can!
That sounds about right! 🙏🏽🙏🏽
yeah i know of a couple of kids that have made it their goals to get one teacher to quit. and its not even for any of the bad teachers either. my old math teacher was borderline predatory but "it was just different back in his day" ok bro. go ask a single girl in his class if they feel comfortable 100% of the time in his class. he'd randomly go up behind them and grab their shoulders and like get really close when talking to them. it wasnt anything crazy but its just fucking weird dude
Sell the car, get a clunker, worth it for more peace
If you’re a teacher who wants to quit and you can’t, take a “medical leave of absence.” Go to your psychologist/psychiatrist and have them write you a note. It won’t solve your problems, but it will give you some time to take a break and make a plan.
You don't need a psychiatrist. Go to your family doctor, state your case, and ask for a note attesting to your mental and physical health issues. I bet you get that letter and your leave.
This story hit bullseye close to home.
It isn't just middle and high school kids either. My elementary kids are running around swinging and throwing chairs at PREGNANT teachers. Then, the parents go blaming other kids and defend their child like they are sinless saints.
OMG YESSSS!
Oml. Oh fam. If I had kids and they did this… they can sleep on a mattress on a floor of their room. I’ll take away all they furniture
yepp!!!
100% 🎯 It all starts AT HOME !!!!
I heard a story of a teacher who’d had a miscarriage and some little monster threw it back in her face and taunted her about it. This is why people say _”phuck them kids”_ .
I stopped calling parents years ago. Why? Experience has taught me how those conversations go. Nothing good comes from telling a parent about a child’s behavior. I will be blamed, cussed out, and told that any misbehavior is my fault. Absolutely no support for me at all.
You forgot denial that anything happened. “My son/daughter would never do that. Why aren’t you talking to the other kid’s parents because they’re the one who…”
I got asked why are you taking away my kids recess. She doesn’t have to listen to you or follow the class to another room. Recess is her time to spend with friends. What time is her recess I need you to call me afterwards.
@@k.brunson400 What!? See, I’m a parent. My son who was 5 at the time and in kindergarten had recess taken away a few times for things like talking when he wasn’t supposed to and things of that nature and I was like “alright, yes, you do whatever you need to do” lol His teacher would come to me and tell me all the things he did wrong that day and all the things he did right. I loved her though she was patient that’s for sure, I don’t know how people can teach kindergarten lol.
I am on the teachers side. Not all parents are like that, I’m sorry you guys have to deal with that crap 🤦🏽♀️
Exactly. What's the point of calling the people who created the problem we are dealing with in the first place.
@@madlion1080 Good point.
That amount of anger in a 13 year old is so concerning. She needs more than alternative school. I would be looking into what is happening at home.
It really bothers me that parents don’t understand that they need to “parent” their kids. It makes me wonder if these parents ever even wanted their kids. Seems like they feel their kids are a burden on them, and just dump the burden on the teachers.
This is what I was thinking… They expect the teachers to parent, raise & teach their kids.. all without the ability to be 1-on-1 or be able to punish/parent them. It’s impossible.
Too bad Roe v. Wade got overturned!
They wanted kids for the wrong reasons. They treat kids like accessories to show off on social media and hang out with as mini friends. They rely on school to babysit and electronic devices to occupy and shut them up.
I cannot stand the argument, "I stay for the kids" it's literally what people say in abusive relationships. Because teaching is an abusive relationship. God graced me by getting me out of teaching and in the corporate world before covid. Thank you so much for using your platform to stand up for teachers. I hope that this resonates with the community. Parents' lack of parenting is the issue and that's not something schools should be responsible for or receiving the consequences of.
Exactly 💯!
All of those posts about "schools should teach personal finance ", "schools should teach job searching skill", "schools should teach life skills", etc. What exactly does the parent do then ? At that point, they are just a glorified night and weekend nanny.
@@Alexis-wh2de it would be advantageous for households where the parents never had anyone to teach them and don't know how to learn. I came from a working poor background, and I know, taking an applied mathematics in college, I learned stuff about compound interest and loan terms that I could never have learned at home, and it springboarded me into other things I realized I needed to learn about.
Just a few weeks of education at a state college has made a huge difference in my life and my family's life.
The problem is, there's only so many resources and only so many minutes in the day
Amen sister. Yes yes yes. "I stay for the kids" has teachers getting no raises and being taken advantage of. Some teachers have too much empathy and end up being abused in negotiations because they "are here for the kids". Those teachers get eaten alive in the shark tank and therefore we all do.
As a homeschool mama, from now on when I get the inevitable comment, "Put your child in traditional school so she can socialize," my response will be to play parts 1 and 2 of this video and force them to watch every minute.
I'm currently undecided on whether or not to send my child to traditional school or keep her home schooled...and this is really pushing me to keep her home.
You made the right decision to home school.
I homeschooled my children in the 80s and 90s before it got this bad. As a substitute teacher since 2019, I have seen student behavior and conduct that is absolutely horrendous. I could never be a permanently assigned teacher.
This is my last year of teaching - I’m doing everything in my power not to quit before the end of the school year - everything you are saying is 100% valid and I appreciate you SO MUCH ❤️ I’m also so happy you got out 🙌
Did you make it through your last year? What are you doing now?
“Education is a shit show.” This resonated with me SO much. Just as much as when you said “Excuses are made for the child.” This unfortunately is happening everywhere. I don’t teach in the US. I teach in The Bahamas and the CHAOS in the schools right now - it is insane. The disrespect from students AND the heads. The gaslighting from the public. No one cares about teachers. No one understands the stress and the problems. And the kids are bad. Sorry to say it but these kids are bad and part of the reason is the lack of accountability and consequences. Everyone is “but the pandemic”. No. No. These kids were bad before. They are just worse now BECAUSE people are being even more lenient than they were, before. And it - the entire system - is gonna implode.
Teaching has become too much like being in an abusive relationship.
@@Jane_Toussaint23 boo who, these children deserve better idgaf
@@Jane_Toussaint23 gang,gang,gang all these teachers on
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“My mom would have snatched my trachea outta my throat.” 🤣🤣🤣 Mine, too. Not every kid need that level of fear to behave (some do, for sure), however, they do need to know there are consequences for their actions. Real life is going to smack them square in the face.
That's 80s, 90s, and 00s parents for you. Today, parents and kids are basically "friends"......and not in a good way.
My mom would have known through that freaky parent 6th sense that I even THOUGHT about some shit like these kids have pulled and would have whooped me!!!
Yeah my mamma would never have let me EVER disrespect my teacher.
Here's what's going to change: there won't be enough real, qualified teachers in classrooms. Then (this is already happening) states will make rules to make it so that anyone with a pulse can be a teacher. Then all of the state tests will have to be either "phased out for the good of the kids" or "paused for budgetary reasons." Students in public schools will have a new "teacher" every month or so (probably less, let's be honest). Experienced, actual teachers will keep leaving education because they will bear the brunt of the shitshow that is the paperwork and "programs" of daily teacher life, because the warm bodies won't know how to do any of it. Colleges will moan and hand-wring because they don't have anyone in their teacher prep courses and because the enrolled students can't read, write, or do science or math. Private schools will make bank and turn out kids with excellent skills, which will make the rich richer and the poor poorer. The class divide will deepen even more. All of this is perfectly foreseeable, but nobody cares because, as you say, it's not hitting anyone in the wallet but teachers. Yet.
100% correct
We are watching this happen exactly as you wrote it.
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@@TrishtonCarroll hey! I miss seeing your videos too. How are you?
This exactly.
11 years ago, I retired early from teaching to protect my physical and mental health. I had some good years, but by the end, the stress was unbearable. You did what you had to do.
Some parents are raising monsters. Some of these kids have no empathy. I had a student with 63 absences. Always in the hallway causing trouble. When we called the mother to say she was suspended she said “y’all disrupting my child education” this girl is the loudest and most disrespectful and disruptive student in the school. Welll one of many. She even assaulted the principal. She’s still there. I’m so DONE with the education system. I’ve been looking for jobs aggressively. I think I would go into the sunken place if I go back in the fall.
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The problem is they aren’t raising them at all. They are just letting them get older with poor behavior, lack of accountability, and no concern about their child’s actions and the consequences for it. Some of these kids are prison bound because of their parents not realizing parent is also a VERB.
@@SherrellWrites I DO! I REALLY do. I don’t want to do this anymore. How can I reach you? I just need some tips.
Please keep in mind that parents are often raising their children by bullying them into obedience. Those same students get out in the world and bully others (or get bullied), thinking that's just how a dog- eat- dog world works.
Now, I'm not sure what this "alternative school" she speaks of is, but the school counselor should've been the next step after the county exec encountered the student. Often, for Black students in particular, there's no middle ground between the teachers, admin, and law enforcement, which usually results in the child's psychological needs being ignored through adulthood, which sets them up for failure permanently.
I'm a pediatrician and I am often surprised by how unstructured and chaotic some kids' home lives are. One thing that I heard that stuck with me is that kids act out where they feel the safest. Children will naturally push boundaries but when they don't have a safe adult at home or an adult to teach them appropriate ways to express their emotions, the result is that kids act out explosively at school. It starts young. I see it with my own toddler. She is constantly pushing boundaries at home but is a perfect angel at daycare and that's because we have a safe structured environment at home. It's not just on parents. It's a systemic issue. Parenting is a skill that has to be learned and we as a society are so disconnected from each other. Not to mention that many parents are working multiple jobs to try to make ends meet and don't have the time or energy to parent as well as they would like. The system is broken for sure.
Agree!
Very true. Economic pressure on parents is leaving kids left to figure it out on their own. But, at the same time, if a teacher is trying to discipline the student for his/her/their best interest and the class, a parent needs to support the teacher. No more excuses.
Although if the parents aren’t willing or able to parent the way they should, then they shouldn’t get in the way of the school disciplining their kids.
@@christineearl6669 Yah and the big problem is. It’s actually the parents responsibility. Too many parents expect school to raise the kid for them. I felt sorry for this poor teacher. Sheesh, no wonder she quit!
I’m a Preschool Director and I had to dis-enroll a child because the DAD threatened one of my teachers. This parent is teaching his child to be a bully. It starts at HOME. I’m glad you are putting your own health first and speaking out about the shit show that is our education system.
I had a preschooler pick up a LARGE rock and act as if he was going to throw it at me. Excuse me. NO
Thank you for being the director who listened to your teacher. I had to write up a student for trying to stab me with his fork and his dad said "it's a good thing you are married and don't live alone" because the dad was upset. I legit drove 30 minutes out of my way that night because I was scared he would follow me. Told the director and she said maybe I should have "accepted getting stabbed by the student." Needless to say I went home, told my husband, and he went forward with a complaint. (Military base so he was able to track down his work and speak to command)
I agree it does start at home!!!! Us teachers can only do such much at school
I am a preschool teacher. We are facing the same situations. No help from the administration.
@@LifeOfCandice wow that is totally unacceptable!
I had an English teacher who would have emotional break downs where she would go under her desk and cry for most of the day and no one did anything. Other teachers would just make fun of her and the year I had her she presumably took her life during thanksgiving break because when we got back they told us she passed away but she was far to young to just pass away. The way my high school handled teachers struggling was to threaten to fire them and I as a student at the time was disgusted by how my teachers were treated.
Thing is, when teachers quit in the middle of the year, the admin will arrange plans to find a sub and hire a new teacher.
What they DON’T do, is discuss plans to give those students consequences for behaving so inappropriate that their teacher quit. There’s never accountability for the students.
The solution is HOLD THESE PARENTS ACCOUNTABLE 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 It’s sickening!! The parents not going to be happy until they’re teaching their own kids. I give it 5 years before this happen!
Then, they’re going to be looking crazy because over 80% of them can’t even help a 2nd grader do their work! That’s why they were crying when school was shut down in 2020. The lack of accountability of parents and students and administration/state cuddling the parents and students are the reason why we have a huge teacher shortage! I’m so sorry you had to experience this!!! 💙💙💙
Amber, I agree.
Amber, you are SO RIGHT!!! It used to sicken me to hear some of these parents complain and whine about having to spend time educating THEIR. OWN. CHILDREN!!! Complain about having to interact and spend time with THEIR. OWN. CHILDREN!!!
It's really no wonder why some kids act out the way they do. Kids are not stupid. They can pick up the vibe of when they feel unloved and unwanted, like they're a nuisance or a burden! It aggravates the hell out of me!
No, you don't hold anyone accountable, you let the natural consequences flow and let these people deal with their own kids. It amazed me the amount of bellyaching that went on because people had to have their kids home.
I come from a very long line of educators. When the teachers and staff were incapable of dealing with my mild special ed kids (one in not for any behavior but because she had an immune disorder that was tearing her apart) because they didn't like me for holding them accountable for what they do or don't do, I immediately went to essentially a teacher overseen homeschooling model- the teacher was god's gift to children. >I< taught my kids day to day and he filled in once a week and it was a pleasure to do it. But then again my kids were decently raised.
Let the chips fall and don't lessen the requirements that kids have to pass and know....things will get "real" in a hurry then.
@@WindsofChange They need more parents like you! Education works way better when the parents and teachers collaborate!
@@aleigh173 I agree, but nowadays plenty of teachers think that they are special snowflakes themselves. Can't work with someone like that.
Sadly, homeschool is becoming the only option for most good parents. You're 💯 right about parents not teaching their kids at home how to behave. It makes teaching their kids at school almost impossible. My heart goes out to teachers who really try and have to put up with this kind of nonsense.
Homeschool (or a derivative of administered by the school district) is the best option nowadays. Let everyone deal with their own kids at home and live with what they do or don't do. In my case the teachers up here were targeting my kid until he sat quietly and didn't do his work (that was his acting out)...and I know that is exactly what happened as I had him wired with a recorder for MONTHS to see exactly what was going on since he wanted to kill himself due to how teachers were acting at school towards him.
Homeschooling was the bomb. I raised my kids to be easy if you treat them with a modicum of caring and respect for being human beings. I was happy to do it. My kids weren't the problem, the teachers and staff were the problem. And before you say that there is nothing wrong with the teachers and staff, I have stuff on recording that would curl your toes and make you cry. These teachers apparently got their license out of a cracker jack box. Supposed special ed teachers that can't deal with a quiet, mild special ed kid without abusing him.
The parents that make out of control kids also need to be dealing with that at home. See how much they like it.
It is total justice all the way around.
I homeschool my children and we love it, for these kids she is talking about… the school is probably the best place for them and the school isn’t showing up for them!
If parents focused on teaching their children discipline, self control and respect, the teachers could teach. Period. Lots of parents just drop their kids off at school and expect someone else to raise them. MOST parents were losing their minds when COVID hit and they HAD to spend their day teaching their own kid. Parents nowadays have discipline and self control issues themselves. Parents coming up to the school trying to fight teachers, cursing, etc.. U.S. education is a hot mess and it is only going to get worse cause teachers are fed up...
@@K6WDC I mean targeting my kid BECAUSE he sat quietly..
We started homeschooling off the bat because we didn't trust the lack of c19 regulations texas was doing. Then we heard what was going on in the schools and now our children aren't going into a school unless there is massive change. It's not safe. There were 6 threats made to our district in the first semester 2 were to what would have been my son's elementary. I still get shit from my husband's family about it (except my mil and fil they are all for it.).
I teach high school. I always tell students “DO NOT let me being a teacher fool you into a false sense of security.”
Mine is, “Find you something safe to do”
@@DecemberGardener 😂 love it.
Mine is, “I’m bout to start actin real uncertified.”
@@momof2240 lol they take you there
I’m going to have to use these. ❤️ it!!! 👍🏾
How can we get this on national television!?! For real. Every shred of what she's saying is the God's honest truth. I'm a retired high school English teacher, department chair, and county district evaluator; in for 30 years and out for the last seven. Obviously, nothing has changed anywhere. They chew up teachers, spit them out, and buy some more. She's not even sharing the worst stories that I've lived and watched others live. She's being gentle and understated.
I love you, and if you want support in your advocacy, please let me know. ❤️
This is the first time I’ve ever commented on UA-cam. Retired teacher here; and I understand completely. We’ve all been where you are. But I say, “Enough is Enough!” Even though you have left this job; it’s time for you to teach these people a true life lesson. Do you have a union representative? Call them and file a grievance. For sure a class size of 31 students with special needs, without assistance, is out of compliance with both state and federal education codes / laws. Document, and report this to both the county and to the state. As far as the threats and harassment, and physical violence; file a police report (not school police). Lastly, lawyer up; and sue their sorry asses (admin, counselor, the violent student, and their parents). On a personal note, thank you for your dedication to our profession: for our young people’s future; and for being an advocate for all educators. Here’s hoping you and yours stay safe, healthy, and happy.🌺
She's in a right-to-work state, no unions allowed.
Idk in she is in NC, but in NC teachers aren't allowed to have unions. Teachers have so little power it's ridiculous.
I agree 110% with Roberta. .
RTW does not mean the employer has a right to abuse, ignore or negatively impact your physical and or mental health.
This story and the thousands of others shown on this channel and Tik Tok ought to be shown to those bonehead pols in RTW states.
These policies are pushing away many generations of teachers : RTW, NCLB, CC,
PS and Teach for America ought to be outlawed UNTIL there is a national teacher's union.
@@amymcdowell957
I was union for 15 years and they did nothing to protect the employees. In fact all the democrats the union got elected turned around and sided with our employers when we went on strike.
Unions are not the answer.
Instead of unions we just need to let teachers represent teachers in contract negotiations and no one else.
We need contracts that protect teachers from administration.
We need class size restrictions in the contracts.
We need protection from students who are not able to control themselves.
Unfortunately, most “rules” about class sizes are only “best practice” not hard and fast regulations when it comes to Special Ed.
As for the pregnant teacher getting punched in the stomach, I would be suing the hell out of the school, the county and the parents. That's assault flat out. Age doesn't mean anything. This exactly why I stopped teaching once I had given birth to my son. Because ain't no"child " about to lay hands on me and not receive repercussions!
I quit last year too. You absolutely nailed it, and I’m glad you called out the parents. I will NEVER send my own children to a public school. I’ve seen too much.
From what I have heard private schools are even worse.
@ Nicole Stackhouse
Parents who have the audacity to allow their kids to behave violently without consequences aren’t fit to be parents. I can emphasize with students who struggle academically or suffer from depression and anxiety. But a child who performs physical assault either on students or any adult, it’s not acceptable under any circumstances.
They can be just as bad or worse.
@@angrynoodletwentyfive6463 Taught public school and now teach private. Almost 30k a year school and while the behavioral stuff is not as bad, the kids are just as freaking lazy and slow as the public school kids. Cheating is so bad it’s almost impossible to know if they have retained the content.
16:16 The eye twitch...I feel that!!! Doc told me “just reduce your stress and take this Xanax”. Teacher stress is NOT relieved with a prescription! I made it 13 years before bailing.... Good for you for putting your health & safety first!
One of the moments for me was when you said that teachers who are currently teaching can't speak out, so you have to. This is the 100% truth. I spoke out when I left for the teachers I left behind. I was replaced and nothing changed. It only got worse. Again, like you said, until it affects their pockets, nothing will change. It's freaking horrible. I'm so glad you are taking care of you. Sending so much love! I hope your voice is more effective than mine was. If you need another voice, I'm in.
@Jen Luv the thing that gets me is that it has been a while since you left and things have only got worse.
Or when we speak out we are labeled as the troublemaker.
@@teacheraprilrogers 100%! I get together with teacher friends every Tuesday and I hear the stories. It's absolutely awful. And, like was said in the video, a lot of teachers can't get out.
@@laquitadalton2447 YES! And sometimes there are consequences for being a "troublemaker". Some admins will make your life HELL.
I've been speaking at board meetings BEGGING for some change or a survey or something. Nothing has happened, no improvements. When we keep trying and get ignored or pushed aside, then no one wants to speak out anymore. When your most valued employees become silent, it should be obvious that there is a major problem.
I think you just decided on your next path, Bri. Whatever form it takes, you’re going to speak out for the millions of teachers who are enduring the most horrendous years of their careers. Peel back the bandages and expose the wounds. Do it with your own style and honesty. You have an army of teachers to testify to your truth. We’re in every state in the country and then some.
This!
I agree 100%. As teachers, we are behind you, and we will support you.
Yesss!!!
Amen 🙏🏾 advocates for teachers all over - we need her TED talk!
I agree too! Let's do this 💪
It's been my lifelong dream to be a teacher. I am currently majoring in secondary education. But hearing of recent events and teachers quitting so rapidly, I am considering changing my major :( I don't want to put myself into debt just to go into a toxic and chaotic environment.
Consider being a Diagnostian or Speech Path. You can still work in schools and help kids but you have option for outside work in health-care and other settings. I loved my early years as a teacher soooooo much. My last 2 put me out of the classroom for good after 18 yrs. It hurts everyday,but it was the right choice. Much love 2 u 💛
If you continue in education, I would suggest you look at international schools. It is a hit or miss at a lot of them, but since parents are paying for it you tend to have a much higher level of buy in, and resulting respect.
I stopped pursuing my secondary education degree after the fall semester ended in 2021. I fished out the classes I was taking and then at the end of the semester I stopped my education track. I want to be a teacher so badly that I find myself in tears when thinking about my decision to step back. In the end I tell myself that this is what my future could be. I just can’t find any reason (that’s good enough) to make me go back and become a teacher. Under paid, under funded, under respected and under supported. I still think about what my students would be like. How I would decorate my room. I put myself in debt knowing it was something I would be unhappy doing. I had to look at what is going on now (laws being signed, teacher’s opinion and videos like this) and what happened during the pandemic. Also the number one thing that did it for me was how long it would take me to pay back my student loans on a teacher’s salary. I was done. I still consider going back and then I have to go back through and reiterate to myself why the decision was the best decision I could make for myself. I HOPE that the education system grows exponentially in my life time. Because I would be more than happy to finish my degree. I want to teach. But as of right now the education system is too broken for me to take part in. But all that being said I hope that your teaching career is amazing and that your students and faculty are so supportive!! Best of luck!
Girl..u will cry a lot of days. The kids are toxic, the teachers snitch on each other like they are in high school , admin doesn't care etc. Iv been teaching almost 20 years. I just resigned. I can write a book based on my experiences...smh🙄
Developed PTSD in the process...etc. It contributed to the demise of my mental health. As years went on...things got worse and COVID brought it all out
Don’t do it! You will regret it if you go into education. It’s the worst!
“No bad kids, just bad decisions” right. The first bad decision was to have that child and not give him boundaries!!!!!
During the week before school started, we had a mandatory training about how to deal with behaviors AND a new platform for documenting behaviors.
First things the trainer said was that same sentence along with “It’s OUR job to teach them how to behave b/c parents might be going through a lot”. It made me smirk and roll my eyes almost to the back of my head. She clearly hasn’t been in a regular classroom since 2003 maybe😂
This is the most real and honest talk about a profession in crisis that I have heard. I'm a teacher in Australia and it's not much better here unfortunately.
I can relate to the pregnant story!! When I was pregnant I had a first grader that would throw chairs at me! I was told I couldn’t take recess away and have to reward the child and basically allow the child to do whatever they wanted!!! The child would destroy my room. We would have to evacuate the classroom 3x a day!!!!!
Wow.
Yep. I had classes like that in both kinder and first. One kid stabed me with a pencil.
WOW! How frightening for you especially during your pregnancy. I hope you were able to get through your pregnancy without any incidents.
My preschool classroom team would have to clear our classroom of our students because of one child's challenging behavior tearing up the classroom. Trying to keep those students safe and managing that other childs behavior. This is preschool mind you. WTH!
My niece also walked out of her elementary classroom one day and never went back for all the reasons you state. She started her own housecleaning company and now makes just was much money with NO hassle at all. She's like a totally different person - happy, content, and loving life again.
So what!
@@AP-gb3eh wow
I had to resign with no notice. My blood pressure was soaring, i had another UTI, migraines. Made an appt with a therapist. For 2400 a month? Girl, NO. The behavior, the expectations, the stress was killing me. My husband told me to quit. Now.
As a high school science teacher who blew out after 5.5 years, everything you have said is bang on the nose. Thank you for advocating for the teachers who can’t speak for themselves.
HS English. I made it 10. Everything she's saying is dead-on, and that was happening in my school when I quit in 2015. I can only imagine what it must be like now.
@rebecca Czekalski I'm in my second year and I'm ready to leave. It's crazy how she's speaking facts
I too was a high school science teacher and my body was the one that forced me to leave because my dumb ass was gonna stay in that abusive relationship for many more years. The stress of teaching, both physically, with the 15 hour days, 6 days a week, I had to put in to make sure my kids knew the Information after 40% of my instructional time was taken for standardized testing (that’s a whole other argument), and mentally/emotionally, with the abusive fucking relationship that was Dallas ISD and teaching as a whole. At the end of 2015 my health took a dramatic spiral downward, my immune system destroyed half of my peripheral nervous system and I left teaching and have been fully disabled and unable to work since then, with the exception of finally being able to work part time starting in June 2021. 4 years of teaching left me fully disabled for 5.5 years and unable to even leave my home for 2 of those years. Our education system is fucked and the way kids are behaving in school is a great medaphor for where we are as a society right now. There’s so many problems in society that are contributing to this problem in public school that I’m hopeless for the education system to be better without fully tearing it down and starting over with a new missio . We need smart, innovative people to redesign this system starting from the ground up and taking into account all the bullshit these kids and their parents have to deal with just living in this country right now. There’s hope, it’s just going to be really rough before we reach it, and I think we’re going to end up throwing away the education of a full generation before we get there.
Sorry for the pessimism, it’s just genuinely what I believe after almost dying trying to be a good teacher for my students.
Or we can’t because we have administrators checking out every social and anything that a parent decides (even years after you posted) that they don’t like can get you fired. Teachers have to weigh that with every post we make to social media. I got a write-up off of Facebook because I posted about a triathlon I took part in on my personal page and a father of a student was “against women’s sports”. I had to take the post down and apologize to keep my job!
A lot of people do have to weigh paying their mortgage and putting food on the table with being the canary in the coal mine and advocating for change. In that situation, we often feel voiceless or like it’s easier not to say anything at all.
@@rebeccaczekalski7973 WHAT?! That is absolutely ridiculous.
Parents say their child does no wrong, don’t want their child upset, always blame someone else, don’t have their child take any responsibility. Here, you can’t keep a child after school. Those flooding the toilets, I’d have them stay after and clean with the custodian. The child that destroys a classroom, I’d keep after and have them clean the room and pay for the materials destroyed. But the system won’t require parents to have to come pick up the child. Now, kids/ families don’t pay for lost library books. They just excuse it. We aren’t setting up the kids for real life where there are consequences, disappointments, etc..Go back to honor roll, try outs for teams, no medals or trophies for showing up. They result is the behaviors / “Karens”, road rage, etc that we are seeing today!
Truer words have never been spoken.
Amen!
My dads a custodian and we we got in trouble at school on the weekends my dad would wake us up on weekends and make us clean
I feel this. My doctor told me a few years ago your job will be posted before your obituary. My millennial daughter and niece refereed to these kids as the no consequence generation and I was like yes 🙌 that’s it.
My mom is a 35 year retired educator also. She sums it up as 'Lawless!'
We had one of our sweet music teachers die and they posted her job before we had her buried! It was so painful!😩
Wow
Reading this, I legit broke down. I cried so hard. You're right, the job will post before my obituary. Screw this!
So you know ..this is not new, sadly. This unbridled disrespect and violence began many many years ago. I went in to education starry eyed and wanting to " make a difference". .about 2000 this all went sideways...no support from parents or admin....I taught 42 years and my last 10 were the hardest. Thank you for speaking out ..
If you are a teacher, the teacher who teaches next door to you is on the same team as you are. Support each other. Do not allow the administration to pit you against each other through mind games, flattery, manipulation, etc. Consider walking out as a whole school or district. Support your unions. Stay strong for each other.
That is so true. They play mind games so we can be puppets competing against each other. So sad. That's why I ignore it and am friendly to everyone. This job not that serious...what are we competing for? Teacher of the year!? It's not going to increase the paycheck! Mind games!
So true! Even if someone makes “teacher of the year,” all you “get” is a ton of paperwork to fill out. : /
Public school teacher strikes are prohibited in our area
Charter School = no union :/
Absolutely!!!!
EVERY teacher in America should pick a day, and nationally walk out on their class and drive home. What a BEAUTIFUL vision that would be!!!!!! I support you all so much!!!!!!! Much love and respect!!!❤
I feel this. This country is going to have no teachers real soon.
But let's put cameras in the classroom so people can watch us indoctrinate those kids. Smh..take care of you!
Exactly!
@@hoolabaloo74 and I say please put cameras in my classroom! You can see what these kids are up to!
Yes , but as long as the wealthy are able to find private schools to cater to their children and their ego's . NOTHING will change . Before majoring in Education I studied Economics = The top 30 wealthiest Corporations and people pay virtually NO TAXES = AMAZON got $$ back !!? SCHOOLS are desperate for that $$- could have paid for Aids etc, etc, Ever since " The Reagan Revolution" and the tremendous slide to the Right- wing - which changed the Tax code in favor of the Rich. All l of our public Institutions have slid down hill at break-neck speed . Until that is changed NOTHING will happen that's positive
"Every excuse is given to the child" So true and tired of this. Being abused verbally and emotionally daily and sometimes physically needs to be addressed. No other workplace would allow this. Stop the excuses. Kids are not being prepared for the real world.
absolutely!
A good part of life is doing something you don't want to do. It's waiting, It's rejection. It's being told no. It's also out of the question. So to raise a child that they are never going to have challenges is crazy and delusional on the parent behalf because in the adult world, that kid is going to meet their match and it is not going to be with loving open arms, soft warm and fuzzy words or an understanding heart.
When they go down to the office, these children are being rewarded with food or computer time.
Everything said here is so true.
I just quit teaching after 4 years. It was daunting and I dreaded going there everyday. I had panic attacks and my anxiety was through the roof. I didn’t even want to walk pass the office because admin would pick at us for such small things. My academic coach did nothing but spread gossip about the struggles we had and laugh and look down on us with admin. Those same struggles were the ones she was supposed to be helping with.
I had about 10 sped kids in my class of 25 kdg children and it was so chaotic sometimes.
There was a child who was extremely aggressive and would try to choke, stab other kids with pencils, on top of that I had a couple other children with special needs who would occasionally try to run out of the classroom.
It was a handful. I also had a kid who threw books on the floor. Ran and hopped on top of desks and when I called his parents they would deny that behavior coming from their child.
The school never disciplined they would just talk to the kids and send them back with the same behavior saying they couldn’t do anything because they were kindergartners. They would tell me I needed to have more backbone and not let them run over me.
It was way too stressful and I couldn’t take it anymore.
I left and now I’m trying to salvage what good mental health I have left. Like you said if children know there are no consequences, they are going to do whatever they want. There is only so much disciplining we can do as educators but if admin and parents are not holding the kids accountable then nothing we do is going to make that big a change in behavior. It starts AT HOME.
I feel like those who aren’t educators don’t understand either. My friends and family would just laugh it off and say something like “you letting kids run you” or “you’re a softie, harden up a little” it’s not even that. You literally feel like you have no control.
"Did you call her mom" is the question that has pushed me over the edge. We also get a lot of "Did you see it with your own eyes" because apparently even a trustworthy child making a report isn't enough. This is my last year for sure!
These parents don’t care. You tell them to come and pick up their child and they refuse
Calling mom won't solve anything. That's where the kids get it! It's so frustrating!
My heart started beating faster and my stomach felt like it was in knots listening to your story. I got anxiety from the memory of teaching! I have been retired for 5 years. I think I have PTSD.
You do have PTSD. The stress is real!!! I’m so sorry 😞 Glad you made it out!
I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND because i simply cannot talk about it without quickly going into a "fight or flight" mindset!! My trust and anger issues (neither of which I had before teaching) boil to the surface and make me miserable for the rest of the day.
This is so unbelievably and incredibly sad. I wish you the best.
Omg same here 😭 every job has its hard aspects, but this reminded me shy i left eduaction and started working for the state.
Please see about talking to a professional. PTSD is nothing to be dealt with by yourself!
I felt so alone. Thank you for being a voice for those of us who don't feel we can speak.
I felt the same way! We aren't alone.
You are NOT alone at all. We all feel that way, sadly.
@ Sherrie P
Every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child. If you bring children into the world have have them audacity to defend and make excuses for a kid’s defiant and abusive behavior against other students or teachers, there’s something wrong with you. You’re setting kids up for failure and proving you don’t care about their well-being.
Bring back punishment. Bring back accountability. These parents aren’t parenting. Hold them accountable. Bring REAL DISCIPLINE back to the schools.
I used to be a “never call a child bad,” adult. Not anymore. The system is so broken. I feel so bad for the students who have not been half raised…and can’t quit. I left the classroom in November.
I did too. I used to just about fight someone for calling a kid bad but not no more! Because the fact of the matter is a lot of these kids are terrible. I work at a facility for sexually traumatized kids and the kids are running the facility. They are allowed to use the trauma as an excuse to terrorize the adults and they know that if we even look like we're going to defend ourselves with out of a job so hands are tied. I'm thankful for my job but I'll be so happy when I'm in a place financially where I can leave.
@yourcousinwhooils
When a child occasionally messes up but learns from their mistakes, then they are NOT bad kids. But if their bad behavior is consistent and They don’t seem to care if have remorse and it gets worse, then they ARE bad kids.
Is it completely their fault? NO! It’s usually the lack of proper parenting or environment their in. But they ARE bad kids who need help to work on themselves. They need healthy discipline called TOUGH LOVE.
"What can we do to fix this?"
Not a damned thing. The system is, as you said, a shit show. There is no bucket of water big enough to wash it away.
Best thing we can do is stop supporting this crap. Let the monster die.
I got out of that system years ago, and it was bad back then. Wouldn't return, even though they offered tenure.
Good on you for getting the hell out.
Wish other teachers, social workers, and counselors would GTFO.
Parents demand the impossible, admin is insane, kids are beyond control.
Walk away, folks. Just. Walk. Away.
I’m speaking as a parent who’s volunteered at my children’s schools. Student behavior is 100% a parenting failure.
I have 3 neurodivergent children, I made it clear to teachers and admin if my children weren’t behaving at school I needed to know about it so I can do my part in supporting not only the teachers, but my children. I don’t care if a child has an IEP or a 504 plan, they are educational and behavioral supports not a written excuse for poor behavior.
Before anybody calls me out, there is a difference between a meltdown and threatening behavior, there is a difference between a student going into a place of being overwhelmed and a student being violent. My children’s IEPs and 504s included helping them recognize cues that they were getting close to overwhelmed (when they were in elementary school, and I also did my part as their parent to help them recognize their own emotional states), to allow my kids the opportunity to go to a quiet place to cool off or take a couple laps around the building.
There are absolutely times that children need to be told to embrace the suck. I support teachers and aide staff working with these kids. They’re amazing human beings taking on a job that I can’t do in an environment that doesn’t support them.
I ended up pulling my child out of middle school and homeschooling because I was uncomfortable with how quickly my school wanted to go back to full in-person return, and a few of my teacher friends quit because of the disregard the school board and admin staff had for teacher and student safety.
All of this is to say I am so very sad that so many amazing teachers are leaving, I’m sorry your school district didn’t support you.
(I apologize for my novella response.)
This level of advocacy empathy and effort is what I hope every day for for every kid with special needs could have genuinely made me so happy I almost want to cry I’ve seen some parents that do an amazing job with the social emotional support of the child with special needs and you see vast change and their behavior an improvement but then you said some just absolutely dropped the ball and you see the effects on the child and you can see the clear signs of stress and you almost don’t react to the behavior and you redirect and you try but apart are you just can’t stop thinking about them and can’t stop thinking what could actually be happening and how much improvement they could make if the parent was more of an advocate for the child
This. I’ve always told the teachers they are free to speak to me about my children’s behavior so that we can correct it. My kids know that we expect them to behave and be respectful at school. I noted it the first time we had a parent teacher conference in kindergarten and the teacher seemed almost afraid to tell us how our kid was doing. I told her, please just be honest. I know my child isn’t perfect and if there are things that need to be worked on, then I need to know so we can work on them at home as well. When I tell you, the tension that left that woman’s body and she sighed with relief. I feel horrible for what so many teachers deal with daily and the treatment they receive from both parents and students. Something’s got to give soon because the shortage of teachers is going to become too much for the system.
@@kraftymum Yep, been there. The relief on teacher's faces is stunning. The sigh of relief when they know they will be supported, honestly it's sad.
I just retired a few years ago, and it breaks my heart that a young teacher left the field so early. I literally have PTSD from the experiences my last 5 years. I'm so sorry, but I'm glad you're out and looking at other careers. You'll be better off in a few years. Love you!!!
I am soooo afraid of the “adults” that these children are going to grow into. Entitled is the only word I can come up with.
This is what I say everyday. I work in school and I say they are setting them up for failure.
Inmates is another word I can think of.
A good friend of mine is an admin at a chaotic high school and was pushed by a student. (The abuse is most definitely NOT limited to teachers.) The district suspended him for a couple of days and then decided to return him to the school. My friend consulted an attorney and was advised to file a restraining order again the fully grown student who assaulted her. She took her attorney's advice and filed a restraining order against the student. At that point he could not return to the school. It took ALL OF THAT to ensure her safety at work. What kind of professional job do you fear for your safety every day? These abusive students are abusing everyone: their peers, their teachers and the administrators.
In my opinion, your friend should never have to deal with this student again. Unfortunately, that's not how it works. Your friend should not have to go to work and fear for her safety, in my opinion.
Many administrators do absolutely nothing when teachers tell them how unruly a student is. They don’t intervene when students are threatening teachers or even put their hands on teachers. However, when that same student threatens or hits them they take measures to have that student removed. I’m tired!
No kidding
The saddest part is, all the time spent dealing with behaviors is time the other kids lose. There are children who want to learn and they have to constantly deal with this nonsense.
Yeah that’s my biggest pet peeve. It hate feeling like I’m neglecting the kids who ARE well behaved and trying their hardest to do well.
As the intervention teacher, I always avoid kids with such behavior issues. I only want those who are committed to trying their best, being respectful, and follow directions. I don’t expect the kiddos to be perfect! They’re allowed to make a learn from mistakes. but do expect effort, participation, and respect.
I have an IEP and I KNEW better than to put my hands on a teacher. Teachers and I would tease each other sure but I NEVER put hands on anyone or even yelled at them. If I got mad I would say “I’m going to the hall” and I would breathe and we would talk after about 5 minutes. And my case manager would talk to me.
Usually it was a student that annoyed me and angered me but once in a while once in a blue moon a teacher would anger me for no reason. My teachers knew I would sit on the floor by the door to my class and just try to get my head straight and my emotions in check. I never did anything wrong to a teacher. Even when I had one of my autistic meltdowns I would use all the strength in my melting down emotional state to get in the hall and cry. If I had to hit something I would hit the floor with my hands like a toddler. I never put any of this on my teacher.
My mom taught me my emotions are my problem first and foremost and I shouldn’t use them on other people. I shouldn’t scream at someone because I’m mad or cry and disrupt everyone just because I’m upset.
The worst behaviour I ever did in class was rocking back and forth and quietly stimming. It would weird out some of the typical students but it was necessary to keep meltdowns from disrupting everything and making the teacher have a bad day.
I graduated with a degree in liberal studies in California and was planning on getting my K-6 teaching credential. I did observations at a low income, high crime and poverty area school and saw the behaviors that teachers had to deal with. And honestly most of those issues were because of bad parenting. After my final class, I had an amazing professor that really taught the ins and outs of school dynamics. What is on each person's plate from teachers to administrators to superintendents and how the state board of education really puts people in impossible situations. It was really eye opening and made me not want to continue with my credential.
I've also noticed that teachers in America are not paid as well, and are not as highly respected as teachers in other countries. When I visited the middle east and said I was studying to be a teacher, they treated me with the same respect as a doctor, engineer or lawyer.
Teachers used to be treated with the same respect as lawyers, Drs., and engineers in America 30-40 yrs ago.
That just does not happen in low income schools ma’am
@@gdavis2020 sure it does but it is not exclusive to low income, high crime and poverty areas.
I’m a first time school nurse and I commend teachers. They have a hard job. And parents don’t even want to deal with their own kids and get mad when we have to call them. No job is worth being unhappy on a daily.
The school to prison pipeline could potentially be eliminated if school admin would stop being afraid of giving these kids consequences! Especially in the upper grades. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve written a child up or asked for help and nothing happened/no help came. It’s unreal.
It sounds like an agenda to me..
Like real discipline. Paddlings
It's all by design. When they took discipline out of school and start letting kids run the roost without any consequences. That makes kids think they can do whatever they want. Then they grow up that when real life hits him.
They used to disappear the discipline referrals/writeups that I wrote as a teacher. Then they would complain about how unruly my students were all day long.
I also wonder if some admins do this so it looks like they're improving behavior situations
Girl, you out here speaking truths. You’re hitting the nail on the damn head and trust me this is not just the case in the USA because I’m over here in Europe and to say I relate to what you’re saying would be an UNDERSTATEMENT. I am at a point in my teaching career where I just physically can’t anymore. Anxiety attacks are no longer the exception, they are the damn rule. I know I don’t know you, but I am so damn proud of you for walking away like you did. There’s nothing I want more at this point than to get the hell out of that soul-sucking, toxic-ass hellhole of a school I’m teaching at. Thank you for making this video, for speaking the truth and not holding back! A lot of people don’t realise how bad it is.
Amen
That is so true- when kids know there are no REAL consequences they will continue to act the way they do.
Yes! And someone will reward them for their bad behavior. We sent an 8th-grade student to the principal for disrupting class continuously, and he came back to the classroom bragging that he got candy.
I had a student call me a b**** in front of the whole class after I asked her to return to her assigned seat. When I called home about it, the parent basically put the blame back on me saying her kid is going through a lot and I should let her sit where she wants. Just making excuses for the behavior as if I'm the problem. I put in my resignation for next year that day.
I pray, I PRAY, this goes viral so you can have a platform for school reform! It needs to happen. I said, “👏🏽IT👏🏽NEEDS👏🏽TO👏🏽HAPPEN!!”
You are exactly right! These kids are OUT OF CONTROL!
Make the noise, girl! It’s time.
Yes, God may be using you to be an advocate for school reform. Especially since "They", the leaders who have never taught, control our classrooms.
It’s going viral on TikTok that’s for sure
As educators we have to get together to make change, we have to be advocates for ourselves.
I want to add to that I could never do what teachers do. They are undervalued and overworked. And to all the good ones out there. I salute you all.
“Your teachers are having a breakdown and your kids are laughing.” This is sadly so true. My kids just don’t take me seriously because they don’t think there’s any real consequences for their actions
There aren't. The State of California passed "education reform" to make it impossible to discipline students.
It’s not they don’t think there are consequences, there really AREN’T any consequences.
@@mariekatherine5238 EXACTLY! I sent kids out for physical violence constanstly (sub for 3 years K-12), and the office sends them right back in with no consequences.
Truth!
I can not believe how many 'parents' there are that let their children walk all over them, excuse all their behaviors, and give no consequences because they don't want their kids mad at them. I told my child no to getting something in a store the other day and she put the item back. No argument, no screaming, no crying. Another parent in the isle looked at me absolutely shocked and asked me how I did that. I was dumbfounded. I simply answered that I was her parent, that's how I did that. Unbelievable. You are an absolute saint, thank you for sticking it as long as you did, the kids lost an amazing teacher.
This! This astounds me. I'm a pre-k teacher assistant, and we have at least 4 kids who start tantrums when they're told "no" because they clearly don't hear it at home. They've gotten better since September, but occasionally it's like they have moments where they remember they don't like the word "no" and they'll have a tantrum on us.
Yes! This!
I have a lot of students who will argue with me for 50 minutes before picking up a pencil... Like who told you this was a democracy lol
This!
@@LadyCapricorn87 oh good lord. I just glare them down. I have told some of them “TOUGH. The answer is no you’ll have to deal with it. But you can go act miserable away from us and come back to me when you are ready to communicate”
I quit in February and it is as if you are telling my story. My sister put it perfectly, I have three things in my life: family, teaching, health. Teaching was costing me the other two. There was no way I could have stayed. All the respect in the world. Warm thoughts and love that your next chapter is better.
My mom taught at a title I elementary school through most of my childhood. She took the assistant principal position when I was older, largely because of the better retirement package, even though she much preferred to be in the classroom. She has her fair share of thrown desk stories and I remember days where she’d come home with huge bruises on her arms where a kid bit her. She told me later about pregnant 5th graders, and stories of angry parents, and how she used to have to ride one particular bus every day because the kids were so awful the bus driver refused to take the kids unless an admin was on the bus to handle the kids. She used to come home every day and there was a rule that no one talked to her for half an hour while she decompressed from the day.
She retired right before my senior year of high school to spend time with me before I moved out for college. I graduated in 1999, which was the year Columbine happened, which was the start of a whole different set of changes for education. She swears up and down if she doesn’t think she could work in a school today, and she’d most likely have home schooled me if I were in school today, things being the way they are. It’s really sad, I think, that they’re making it so hard for people who honestly want to teach to actually do it.