Was they really because cause guys was allowed to take 25-30 shots and miss most of them. There’s no difference with three today. Good shooter or team is going to shoot the damn ball
It’s not the coaches, why do yall believe that?? The owner hired the GM and the GM dictates what the style of play is going to be. The coaches don’t pushback because they want to get paid. It’s all on the owners, they control everything.
@@MrJaymac87 if you take 100 two point shots at 50%, that's 100 points... if you take 100 threes at 35%, that's 105 points... The avg guy shots 35%... you know what the avg guy doesn't do... shot 50% from the mid range... Us fans may not like the results, but we need to stop pretending we can out math, a computer program DESIGNED to find the right percentage of 3s, to 2s...
@nephalm5357 no one's saying don't take 3s. We're saying don't take them if you're not making them. It's stupid to take 40 3s if you're only making 20% of them. It's totally fine if the team is around 37. You're wasting possessions chucking up bad 3s instead of looking for better shots. That's all we're saying. A clean shot at the rim from the paint or from midrange is always a better shot than some goof burping up a bad 3.
@@nephalm5357😂 but teams shooting 50-60 3’s a game and only scoring 105 points maybe games be like 106-102 and that’s because of intentional fouls at the end 😂
@@realamerican8069wrong, I never had cable but I wish I did because I’d be able to watch a lot more games compared to this stupid nba pass/amazon and telling me about my stupid location
@@realamerican8069 wrong, never had cable but my cousin did and I was able to watch a lot more games on cable than I can on a stupid nba pass that doesn’t give you all the games
@@realamerican8069 wrong, never had cable but my cousin did and I was able to watch a lot more games on cable than I can on a stupid nba pass that doesn’t give you all the games🤷♂️
@@realamerican8069 wrong, never had cable but my cousin did and I was able to watch a lot more games on cable than I can on a stupid nba pass that doesn’t give you all the games
True fans wanna see what we can't do. We can take open jumpers from far away. We can't finish at basket over a big, we can't dunk on someone, we can't use handles, and angles to hit middies at high percentage. We can't be super tall and athletic. So we are bored.
Y’all can’t shoot from deep like NBA players stop it. You don’t watch games if you act like they are not scoring in the paint at all. What are you watching 😨
@@moneymoney3235its no reason teams need to shoot 40 some threes a game dumbasses are looking at analytics when they don't have the personnel to do it
KMart made a great point, they skipped getting good at the 2pt FG and started shooting 3s Kenyon's jersey goes hard. I still remember when the Jordan brand supplied Cincinatti U. with their jersey in the early 2000s
That was a horrible take by K Mart... do the math. If LaMelo shots 13 threes at 43% and drops that to 8 threes... that means he takes 5 shots from 2 instead of 3... cool. Those 5 threes would be 6 points at 43%... 5 twos would be 4 to 6 points at 50%... Now take into account the energy expended to drive to the basket... fouls .. potential injuries... Shooting 5 3s is better...
@@nephalm5357old heads dumb. You can’t assume he still going to make 5 threes a game if he start shooting 8 instead of 13. Steph curry not even shooting at that clip😂😂
@@nephalm5357it only works if the person shooting the shots is more efficient than their team taking good 2pt shots. Every big man has the green light to shoot threes for some reason and they shoot 20-30% a lot of the time. That is just a wasted posession at that point. You just have to look at the rest of the team's 2pt fg percentage and compare it to their 3pt% then check what percentage they'd have to shoot on 2pt field goals to make it more efficient than a 30% 3pt shooter.
@@nephalm5357LeMelo is shoot 43% from the field, not from 3pt. He’s saying if he cuts the 13 3pt shots down, he’ll shoot a higher field goal % from the field because he can shoot more efficient mid range or drive to the basket. He could also get fouled more and go to the line at a higher clip as well.
Every team thinks they good copying the warriors, but they don't have the DEFENSE that allowed warriors to take those 3s without repercussions, BOGUT, IGGY, GREEN, LIVINGSTON etc.
And he outscored the entire mavericks team up to that point when he sat out. Yea... way more impressive. Especially when you consider kobe did that in 2007
@@Fiction2K24kobe had odom as the second player, and he was not left alone like klay was being left alone….. kobe had less spacing on the court….. and kobe didnt take so many threes
Yo the only team I casually watch is Golden State because of their motion. They jack them thangs up also, but at least you see off the ball screens and floaters. Steph gets to the cup. The rest of the NBA is just no defense, jacking up 3's. Even last night I saw GSW get a steal in the open court and pull up for a 3 when it was 3 on 1 fast break. Lindy Waters hit the 3, but I was like "That was a terrible shot selection.." They panned to Kerr and he even looked puzzled, because they were trailing...
@@creativeclectic spurs are pretty fun to watch when Wemby isn’t taking 8+ 3’s. Paul still a magician running an offense and they got willing ball movers.
One of the reasons why pretty much everyone but Boston fans think the Celtics are super boring.. dudes run the same exact play almost every time theyre on offense.. and Boston fans we get it, your team is elite and we're all just haters whatever
That's BS... everybody's (except boston fans) are already hating b4 they can even call it "boring". If it was any other team they would be getting praised. When gsw was doin it or Hardens Rockets were doin it, it was cool cause "3 is more than 2". But when the Celtics do it, "it's boring" 🤣😂 u casuals always with the double standards 🤦🏻
Big facts 😂😂😂😂😂 i was a shooting guard im 5'11 with great build in highschool ok now😂😂😂 but anyways i had handle's and could drive too the basket i remember i shot a three missed my coach look me in my eyes and said you do tgat again im going to bench you the rest of the tournament 😂😂😂😂 😢
You can't win a championship without shooting at least 30 3pters. League average is 50 2pt and 35 3pt shots per game. Still plenty of 2 pt shots so what exactly is your problem?
@@lenzoltan its not about the amount of 3s taken but which players are choosig to shoot imo, the got alot of low percentages players taking shots they shouldnt be taking
As I watch my son play middle school basketball. His team chucked up more 3s than any other shot. They lose by 30 because they refuse to coach them to actually play ball.
I bet the real reason why your son's team lost wasn't because the # of 3-pointers attempted...but rather, the lack of offensive rebounds AFTER the initial 3-pointer missed shot! :-)
Sometimes I think people are ignore how they contradict themselves and or ignore their bias. They give Curry props for changing the game with the 3 but don't blame him for the bad that comes with it. Smh
Because Curry isn't to blame for having a unique game. Steph plays to his strengths like he should, these other dudes ain't Steph 😂 It's the coach's fault for trying to play like Golden State without the personnel for it. Imagine the NBA trying to adapt a Shaq play style...wouldn't be Shaqs fault yo😂
@@StevieFromThree You can't win a championship without shooting at least 30 3pters. Teams have to develop their 3pt shot if they want to stay relevant. You can't develop if you don't shoot them. If opponents know you can't shoot it's very easy to defend against you.
No, it’s just pissing off the previous generation. The decline in NBA ratings has way more to do with the general economic mood of certain audiences as well as the youth literally not into it. My children might watch the NBA finals and my grandchildren who are in their 20s don’t want to have anything to do with it. It is their friends and my grandchildren’s friends are exactly like this. And we can even go to the success of UA-cam shows like this. People are more interested in hearing what former athletes are saying than even the General highlights. People are more interested in highlights than actually watching the game on TV. People would watch on TV I wouldn’t dare go into an NBA arena.
The 3 is for specialist! Guys that practice that shot religiously. Some star players aren’t great 3pt shooters and that’s ok. Kawhi not gone put up 11 3s. KD not gone put up 11 3s.
@@iamstan_rimp what’s crazy is KD could still easily become a lethal, high volume, 3 point shooter but he ain’t about that and I respect it. He knows what moves to go to with what the defender is giving him and uses the body he was blessed with to bless the fans. Someone like Wemby ain’t going to perfect his moves if he gets comfortable shooting 8+ a game. He’s too good to not want the ball downlow or midrange more often and create more depth to his game. That’s a lot of these young cats problem. Brandon Miller chucking up 3 after 3 and not working on any game it seems. Same with LaMelo… shoot like 1/2 as many 3’s and become an even better player.
It's the math period! You can have an off night but these are some of the most efficient offenses of all time. Coaches are not all dumb you cant win with the slow down throw it in the post every play anymore
@@mikejones9906 the last 3 years are the highest scoring years in history outside of some of the 60s years. In those 60s years they averaged about 15 more shots a game and 12 more free throws a game and only averaged 3 more points a game. So all those extra shots with only 3 more points to speak for. They shot 12 more from the field and only made 2-3 more shots from the field than now.
The Celtics did this. When you SHOW that you can win with everyone shooting 3s and taking 40+ attempts other teams try to replicate it. It was this Celtics team, that’s it.
Yea what’s the odds you can build a an all star roster like the Celtics, what’s the odds everyone in your starting lineup can hit 3’s?? You’re gonna be that team to try to replicate an anomaly.
@@Akatheyounggunnabossit definitely started becoming as bad of an issue as it is now after the Celtics won. Even GSW didn’t have players from the 1 to the 5 as 3pt specialists and guys coming off the bench casually hitting 3s.
@@cozyboy_morty88 it’s not the Celtics’ fault, they’re just exploiting the line to their benefit in order to win which is what you’re supposed to do. The line is more of the issue
@ I never said it was the Celtic’s fault. I’m just saying they were stacked with 3pt shooters in the playoffs and finals and teams took note of that in the wrong ways lmao
Whats extremely alarming, is after that game where the Bulls and Hornets missed the most 3s in a single game in history, Ayo Dosunmu was asked a question and he word for word said: "We got up 51 threes, so thats good". Why thats alarming, is thes eguys DONT SEE THE PROBLEM. They literally do not care how many they miss or what the percentage is, because analytics say if you shoot more 3s you have a higher chance of making more 3s, and if you make more 3s you have a higher chance of winning the game. Its simple math to these teams now. Chuck more 3s up you increase your chances of winning. This is SO detrimental to the sport and this is just the surface of hoe bad it can be. This will have a serious lasting impact on the purity of the game.
Make the dunk worth 3 points. Will crate an initiative to score in paint, plus will create more action ( like someone getting dunked on. that's a 4 point play!)
The way Gil talk about the league like he not literally raising the revemge is crazy. His son will be his final laugh at the league lil dude a savage on the court.
@@Executnr and once they double the post... do you want guys spaced out by the 3pt line.. or hovering around the midrange and corners like they did in the 2000s?
We hear this argument over and over. Until a team goes traditional and changes things, it’s not going to stop. If you don’t like it, beat it. Plain and simple.
You can't go traditional anymore. The moment the others know you can't shoot you are finished you are easy to defend. Shaq said they legalized zone defense to stop him and they did.
Not just nba I play with younger people and they will pass on open layups, shoot from 8ft behind the 3 point line never crash boards, never make cuts and sit at the 3 point line. I’m sick of it.
@ it’s also how people think and coach. They don’t only learn from tv. Someone is teaching them that shooting 3s is more valuable. Wide open lanes and perfect pickn rolls r learned by teaching them. I would say it’s more of a thinking game and kids find it easier not to think just to throw it up.
I don't play pickup basketball anymore but the last time I did, the people on my team were shooting half court shots none of us would NEVER have done playing in my younger days on the courts. It kind of ruined it for me because what's the point of playing defense or smart basketball if all you're going to do is watch somebody jack up threes on a fast break when you see me literally running towards the rim? It's not cool to see a 7''5" player (Wemby) shot 9 three-point shots a game when he's so good and big that no one can stop him from scoring on the inside. You need to use your size and skill to your full advantage.
The only thing you can do is reduce the 3 point shot to 2.5 or 2.3 points. It's completely the fault that the 3 point shot is worth too much. Imagine if the financial institutions had an exploit this crazy. Well, every single institution would clamor to exploit it to the fullest extent until new laws were instituted to level the exploit. Basketball has a PROBLEM. the 3 point shot is OP and exploitable, and the 3 point shot will be exploited to it's fullest extent until the exploit is leveled.
Defense is part of the game. They reduced the defensive pressure in the league and gave this perception that they have more skill players/better scorers in today's game.
I remember complaining about the Rockets in the WCF like 10 years ago. Seeing Harden Chuck 3s all game annoyed the hell out of me. I know winning is the goal, but ENTERTAINMENT should be the #1 priority! It's like these owners and players forget that ALL of the revenue from TV to tickets to parking come from the fans desire to be entertained. The win at all costs, championship or bust mentality has led to all of the load management and overemphasis of 3 point shooting. It's BORING and fans have too many other avenues for entertainment to watch a game where it's a 3 point shooting contest if the star player are even playing at all
There is a reason teams are shooting that many threes, just look at the Celtics its simple math. When healthy they have a whole starting line up of shooters, even their 7'2 Center is a sniper. And then 1-2 on the bench and a Steph Curry level shooter in Pritchard this season. They don't even have to shoot that well to win games. They shoot like 50 threes a game TEN MORE THAN THE 2ND PLACE IN 3PA. And they make 37% of them on average which is really good. You basically have to hope they not hitting their shots to have a chance, cause its almost impossible beating them when they shooting like that. Don't forget that a guy like Pritchard can always get hit and hit like 3-4 in a row. You may not like it, but its the most effective way to play basketball in the modern NBA.
Slightly disagree. Move the 3pt. line back by 2feet, bring back hand checking, bring back 5 seconds in the paint. The reason they refuse to do so, is because they want the bloated stats to justify certain players ‘GOAT’ status (🙄) and for gambling parlay reasons, we will continue to not watch, and the game we love will keep failing.
I’m getting the assumption that players that shoot more threes, Suck at going into the basket. Their Cop out is that they are only Driving to the Lane just to go to the free throw line and get their point like that
I blame the players for being LAZY and shooting all of these 3s, because the 3-Ball is the easiest shot to get off in basketball and I blame the spineless coaches for allowing it! I swear every time I watch an NBA game today I start yelling at my phone for someone to cut to the basket or post up in the mid! 💩 crazy man! SMH
It’s funny when we say something good about the game it’s because “the players are playing” but when we talk about the bs it’s all the coaches and analytics people
It was definitely the suns with Nash and Amare that got Nash a MVP, and D’Antoni’s rockets team that took GSW to 7 with KD. That model challenged that GS team and teams played copy cat
Its no one player thats responsible for this. Its the statistic that teams that shot more 3s tended to win games. When that started going around, teams just began chucking up 3s all game. The game has no strategy anymore and its all about analytics.
The blame should go to the bigs that started shooting 3s, centers are not supposed to shoot 3s, Dirk started the revolution now most centers are doing it
the worst thing to me is the league ridiculed ben simmons for not taking a shot he didnt feel comfortable with and wanting to shoot a higher oercentage shot now they just allow random asss role players to shoot shots they shouldnt shoot, just because you on the court doesnt mean thats your shot , we still need post players we still need rebounders and defenders but nah everyone wanna be a shooter all of a sudden
If you live off midrange in today's game you're going to lose by 15 to 30 points if your opponents shoot decently from 3. They don't even have to be great. Just an average shooting night will make you go back to 3s and layups.
Coaches don't give af anymore. They get guaranteed massive contracts. If they get fired they can go be an assistant on a contender. Get rid of guaranteed contracts across the board, lower player salaries until they are vets. If players are hungry and want to make money they will play harder.
Steph didn't tell them how to shoot. Steph shoots 200 3s every practice, them other players thinking they can shoot 10 3s a game like Steph just bcoz they can shoot? It's their fault, not Steph
I blame people like Gil for sayin’ dumb sh*t like “Curry doesn’t have talent, he just works hard.” If what he did wasn’t a talent, then many more players would be able to shoot as accurately as he does…but they they *COULDN’T.*
It’s not the nerds, it’s the owners who hire them. If you’re gonna treat an NBA franchise like it’s one of your toys, then the league should take that team away from you. There is no way you can’t see this style of play isn’t working for your team. Viewership being down is a myth, there’s a lot of people illegally streaming games so it doesn’t count towards the ratings. The NBA keeps growing globally, so they’re making a lot of money and these owners only care about that fact. It’s all about the bottom line and you can’t have owners with that mindset. You’re letting some nerd who never played basketball convince you how basketball is played. They don’t understand any nuances and there evaluations have no context.
Can't call Steph Curry a 'game changer' and then get mad when other teams try to play catch-up by going to the 3-ball more and more! You also can't blame teams going to the 3-pointer more when refs don't call 'walking', 'carrying', "traveling", while allowing stars like LeBron to "flop" just to the free throw line!
I get the anger on the fans side but why haven coaches perfected a defense to stop all the 3's. I feel once the defenses start blocking the total number will go down.
Charles Barkley and Shaq said the exact same thing about the excessive amount of 3's and y'all called them old haters.
Exactly now the shit has hit the rim literally 🤦🏽♂️
Yup Charles been called out these analytic dudes
Both are true.
aye nah idk who Chuck hates more Skip Bayless or analytics😂😂😂 he been saying for years analytics were ruining the game nobody listen
3s is not the problem is missing the shots.
I’m with GIL 10000% on this. It’s the damn coaches who allow this nonsense. In the past you’d get benched for taking all them bad shots
Was they really because cause guys was allowed to take 25-30 shots and miss most of them. There’s no difference with three today. Good shooter or team is going to shoot the damn ball
It’s not the coaches, why do yall believe that?? The owner hired the GM and the GM dictates what the style of play is going to be. The coaches don’t pushback because they want to get paid. It’s all on the owners, they control everything.
@@mikejones9906 Nga coaches run the team, they don't gaf what the team will do 😂 You think what the coaches are doing was all from the owners? 😂😂
@@MobPsychoooooo Coaches run the team over the owners? I can tell you took the short bus to school.
@@tamezdog7143 big difference shooting midrange and in the paint and chucking 30 3s a game
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Man I remember when Andrew Bynum shot a 3 and I think Mike brown was the coach he sat his big ass down immediately
Mane 🤣🤣🤣🤣 see they need 2 bring back these coaches!
I remember that he knew he was coming out the game make or miss 😂
@@memphisfast3935mike brown is still a HC lol!??
@memphisfast3935 they still here, they changed too. Mike brown was a moron back then. He's a coy now
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That “Cincy” jersey is hard
I don't get it tho
That’s his Jersey number when he went to Cincy
@@stevendavis5095Cincinnati bearcats not bengals lol 😂😂
They love the math that 3 is more then 2 but forget 2 is more then 0 lol
@@MrJaymac87 if you take 100 two point shots at 50%, that's 100 points... if you take 100 threes at 35%, that's 105 points...
The avg guy shots 35%... you know what the avg guy doesn't do... shot 50% from the mid range...
Us fans may not like the results, but we need to stop pretending we can out math, a computer program DESIGNED to find the right percentage of 3s, to 2s...
Right
@@nephalm5357one team shot 17% the other team shot 27%. You gotta make those 3s
@nephalm5357 no one's saying don't take 3s. We're saying don't take them if you're not making them. It's stupid to take 40 3s if you're only making 20% of them. It's totally fine if the team is around 37. You're wasting possessions chucking up bad 3s instead of looking for better shots. That's all we're saying. A clean shot at the rim from the paint or from midrange is always a better shot than some goof burping up a bad 3.
@@nephalm5357😂 but teams shooting 50-60 3’s a game and only scoring 105 points maybe games be like 106-102 and that’s because of intentional fouls at the end 😂
lol that boi Gill said “you did a double step back what’s a name” lol
Viewership going down cuz no 1 wants to pay $20-$50 for an app that doesn’t give you all the games🤷♂️
You were paying for it anyway with cable
@@realamerican8069wrong, I never had cable but I wish I did because I’d be able to watch a lot more games compared to this stupid nba pass/amazon and telling me about my stupid location
@@realamerican8069 wrong, never had cable but my cousin did and I was able to watch a lot more games on cable than I can on a stupid nba pass that doesn’t give you all the games
@@realamerican8069 wrong, never had cable but my cousin did and I was able to watch a lot more games on cable than I can on a stupid nba pass that doesn’t give you all the games🤷♂️
@@realamerican8069 wrong, never had cable but my cousin did and I was able to watch a lot more games on cable than I can on a stupid nba pass that doesn’t give you all the games
True fans wanna see what we can't do. We can take open jumpers from far away. We can't finish at basket over a big, we can't dunk on someone, we can't use handles, and angles to hit middies at high percentage. We can't be super tall and athletic. So we are bored.
People sleep on that concept
Y’all can’t shoot from deep like NBA players stop it. You don’t watch games if you act like they are not scoring in the paint at all. What are you watching 😨
@@moneymoney3235its no reason teams need to shoot 40 some threes a game dumbasses are looking at analytics when they don't have the personnel to do it
if that's true then why there's only 1 curry type of player in the league? is there even a new klay?
@@moneymoney3235I can from NBA half court too in my regular form I've been shooting the NBA three since I was 11
The players want to be playing that way too. Less contact and an easier night.
Facts easier
They don't pay that way during pick up
@@benjamincrosby4350 they still shoot a lot of 3's in pickup, and there's even less contact on defense
KMart made a great point, they skipped getting good at the 2pt FG and started shooting 3s
Kenyon's jersey goes hard. I still remember when the Jordan brand supplied Cincinatti U. with their jersey in the early 2000s
That was a horrible take by K Mart... do the math.
If LaMelo shots 13 threes at 43% and drops that to 8 threes... that means he takes 5 shots from 2 instead of 3... cool.
Those 5 threes would be 6 points at 43%...
5 twos would be 4 to 6 points at 50%...
Now take into account the energy expended to drive to the basket... fouls .. potential injuries...
Shooting 5 3s is better...
@@nephalm5357have you seen the amount of injuries the NBA has had in the past 7 to 8 years? You think shooting threes will make it less injury from
@@nephalm5357old heads dumb. You can’t assume he still going to make 5 threes a game if he start shooting 8 instead of 13. Steph curry not even shooting at that clip😂😂
@@nephalm5357it only works if the person shooting the shots is more efficient than their team taking good 2pt shots. Every big man has the green light to shoot threes for some reason and they shoot 20-30% a lot of the time. That is just a wasted posession at that point. You just have to look at the rest of the team's 2pt fg percentage and compare it to their 3pt% then check what percentage they'd have to shoot on 2pt field goals to make it more efficient than a 30% 3pt shooter.
@@nephalm5357LeMelo is shoot 43% from the field, not from 3pt. He’s saying if he cuts the 13 3pt shots down, he’ll shoot a higher field goal % from the field because he can shoot more efficient mid range or drive to the basket. He could also get fouled more and go to the line at a higher clip as well.
Every team wants to copy the Warriors scheme until they realize, they don’t have the personnel that the Warriors had.
Exactly! But when former NBA vets were saying this, they were called old haters.
Every team thinks they good copying the warriors, but they don't have the DEFENSE that allowed warriors to take those 3s without repercussions, BOGUT, IGGY, GREEN, LIVINGSTON etc.
Even the warriors can't play the style anymore 😂
Celtic's can compare with them to
The warriors were not doing this 😂 they had multiple mfs who would never shoot 3’s.
Never forget Kobe dropped 62 points and sat out the 4th quarter…
Klay dropped 60 and sat the entire 4th too, what's your point
62 is more than 60. And kobe didn't have steph or kd to take the pressure off of him either.
And he outscored the entire mavericks team up to that point when he sat out. Yea... way more impressive. Especially when you consider kobe did that in 2007
Klay is not in kobe category... stop the blasphemy... 😅 you can compare klay to scottie
@@Fiction2K24kobe had odom as the second player, and he was not left alone like klay was being left alone….. kobe had less spacing on the court….. and kobe didnt take so many threes
It's obvious how much work you put in!
Weak defense and a whole bunch of 3's = welcome to the finnese era
It's becoming Un-Watchable ...
The games can be free I am still not watching
@@bigslime1035 PREACH
Yo the only team I casually watch is Golden State because of their motion. They jack them thangs up also, but at least you see off the ball screens and floaters. Steph gets to the cup. The rest of the NBA is just no defense, jacking up 3's. Even last night I saw GSW get a steal in the open court and pull up for a 3 when it was 3 on 1 fast break. Lindy Waters hit the 3, but I was like "That was a terrible shot selection.." They panned to Kerr and he even looked puzzled, because they were trailing...
@@creativeclectic spurs are pretty fun to watch when Wemby isn’t taking 8+ 3’s. Paul still a magician running an offense and they got willing ball movers.
@@bigslime1035same I rarely even watch the highlights anymore
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One of the reasons why pretty much everyone but Boston fans think the Celtics are super boring.. dudes run the same exact play almost every time theyre on offense.. and Boston fans we get it, your team is elite and we're all just haters whatever
That's BS... everybody's (except boston fans) are already hating b4 they can even call it "boring". If it was any other team they would be getting praised. When gsw was doin it or Hardens Rockets were doin it, it was cool cause "3 is more than 2". But when the Celtics do it, "it's boring" 🤣😂 u casuals always with the double standards 🤦🏻
@@iLL-EgOshow me where I said it was cool when gsw/rockets were doing it. Smh
@barrybondsbighead so comprehension is not your strong suit I see. I'll make it simple for u... was it "boring" when gsw n the rockets were doing it?
@@iLL-EgO sure showed me huh
@@iLL-EgO little bro… the c’s are probably shooting like 20 more 3’s a game than those Warrior teams.
Growing up I played Center and one time before warm ups I was shooting 3s and my coach yelled at me. That was not my game….
Big facts 😂😂😂😂😂 i was a shooting guard im 5'11 with great build in highschool ok now😂😂😂 but anyways i had handle's and could drive too the basket i remember i shot a three missed my coach look me in my eyes and said you do tgat again im going to bench you the rest of the tournament 😂😂😂😂 😢
@@godsleep6129versatility is the most important. A big who can shoot is much more valuable it's a bigger threat..
@@godsleep6129I remember my coach walked by me, I bricked a 3 and he screamed “Move closer! Maybe you’ll make a shot!” 😂😂 Do what you do well.
Your coach was holding you back
You see the correlation between viewership falling and the three point era. Started the same year.
I'm a white nerd!!! I hate all this 3 point crap!!!!!
i think you misunderstood what they meant by nerd lol they meant the analytics ppl that report for the nba
@@xxFLOOZxx No I know I'm just joking around. I'm a comic book nerd and I know the game is ass right now.
You can't win a championship without shooting at least 30 3pters.
League average is 50 2pt and 35 3pt shots per game. Still plenty of 2 pt shots so what exactly is your problem?
@@johnmoser9731 Man... sybau. You just tryna make this about yourself 😂 go back to your comics.
@@lenzoltan its not about the amount of 3s taken but which players are choosig to shoot imo, the got alot of low percentages players taking shots they shouldnt be taking
As I watch my son play middle school basketball. His team chucked up more 3s than any other shot.
They lose by 30 because they refuse to coach them to actually play ball.
Teague said on his podcast that a lot of NBA players would be lost if you told them to run the same play, just flip it😂
Damn that’s when you know it’s getting bad
I bet the real reason why your son's team lost wasn't because the # of 3-pointers attempted...but rather, the lack of offensive rebounds AFTER the initial 3-pointer missed shot! :-)
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Sometimes I think people are ignore how they contradict themselves and or ignore their bias. They give Curry props for changing the game with the 3 but don't blame him for the bad that comes with it. Smh
Because Curry isn't to blame for having a unique game. Steph plays to his strengths like he should, these other dudes ain't Steph 😂
It's the coach's fault for trying to play like Golden State without the personnel for it. Imagine the NBA trying to adapt a Shaq play style...wouldn't be Shaqs fault yo😂
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You can't win a championship without shooting at least 30 3pters.
Teams have to develop their 3pt shot if they want to stay relevant. You can't develop if you don't shoot them.
If opponents know you can't shoot it's very easy to defend against you.
The fans are just as stupid
I’m supposed to blame curry bcuz y’all Driding his game? No one told these idiots to shoot all those 3s they did it to them selves
@@darriusg5007 when you word it that way of course it sounds bad 🤡
3s feel like a cop out
No, it’s just pissing off the previous generation.
The decline in NBA ratings has way more to do with the general economic mood of certain audiences as well as the youth literally not into it.
My children might watch the NBA finals and my grandchildren who are in their 20s don’t want to have anything to do with it. It is their friends and my grandchildren’s friends are exactly like this.
And we can even go to the success of UA-cam shows like this. People are more interested in hearing what former athletes are saying than even the General highlights. People are more interested in highlights than actually watching the game on TV. People would watch on TV I wouldn’t dare go into an NBA arena.
5:22 Why is Mark Williams catching a stray ....😂😂😂
Its a combo of the coaches and players. The coaches that condone it and the players that keep doing it.
Nick should be on every single episode!!!! 😂
Implement a 5 second violation instead of 3 seconds and a 3 second offensive violation outside the 3 point line
I like the idea of not letting guys camp out behind the 3pt line.
Coaches have no control over the players & that's the fault of the owners.
Never forget Kobe out scored Lebron 54-16 in one on one situations
As long as you don't forget LeBron's teams had more head to head wins, even in his first Cleveland stint.
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@@stoneprisms1313and lost in a weaker conference while lakers made and won the finals.
Never forget Lebron and Kobe's head-to-head is 16-6
3 wins is against Rookie Cavs Bron
Two can play the game.
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The 3 is for specialist! Guys that practice that shot religiously. Some star players aren’t great 3pt shooters and that’s ok. Kawhi not gone put up 11 3s. KD not gone put up 11 3s.
@@iamstan_rimp what’s crazy is KD could still easily become a lethal, high volume, 3 point shooter but he ain’t about that and I respect it. He knows what moves to go to with what the defender is giving him and uses the body he was blessed with to bless the fans.
Someone like Wemby ain’t going to perfect his moves if he gets comfortable shooting 8+ a game. He’s too good to not want the ball downlow or midrange more often and create more depth to his game.
That’s a lot of these young cats problem. Brandon Miller chucking up 3 after 3 and not working on any game it seems. Same with LaMelo… shoot like 1/2 as many 3’s and become an even better player.
I love basketball but I can’t watch a whole regular season game to save my life. The ESPN and FS1 debate are more entertaining than the games.
Never forget that Lebron was averaging 37 ppg against McCants
Never forget
Keep running it up, bruh!!! 😂
Never forget!
Never forget he lives rent free in your head
Ahaha! This comment is goated!
My man said, "Take the turn over!" 😂😂😂😂😂
3:45 mark sums it up, Kenyon and Gil hit it on the head. Make these guys explain these horrible shot decisions and embarrass the hell out of them.
Agreed
Why Not Create A Segment Where The Producers Make A Phone 📞 Call To Miko Once A Week “Miko’s Narrative “
you can shoot it with your forehead 😂😂 4:47
Why I think of Lexi when he said that 😂
It's the math period! You can have an off night but these are some of the most efficient offenses of all time. Coaches are not all dumb you cant win with the slow down throw it in the post every play anymore
But they were scoring more with that style of play that’s what people don’t understand.
@@mikejones9906 they weren’t scoring more with post offense
@@Slitherman96 Look up the highest scoring years in the history of the NBA.
@@mikejones9906 the last 3 years are the highest scoring years in history outside of some of the 60s years. In those 60s years they averaged about 15 more shots a game and 12 more free throws a game and only averaged 3 more points a game. So all those extra shots with only 3 more points to speak for. They shot 12 more from the field and only made 2-3 more shots from the field than now.
@@Slitherman96 What are you talking about?? Do you know how to look up stats?
The Celtics did this. When you SHOW that you can win with everyone shooting 3s and taking 40+ attempts other teams try to replicate it. It was this Celtics team, that’s it.
This started long before the Celtics team, you must be a new NBA viewer
Yea what’s the odds you can build a an all star roster like the Celtics, what’s the odds everyone in your starting lineup can hit 3’s?? You’re gonna be that team to try to replicate an anomaly.
@@Akatheyounggunnabossit definitely started becoming as bad of an issue as it is now after the Celtics won. Even GSW didn’t have players from the 1 to the 5 as 3pt specialists and guys coming off the bench casually hitting 3s.
@@cozyboy_morty88 it’s not the Celtics’ fault, they’re just exploiting the line to their benefit in order to win which is what you’re supposed to do. The line is more of the issue
@ I never said it was the Celtic’s fault. I’m just saying they were stacked with 3pt shooters in the playoffs and finals and teams took note of that in the wrong ways lmao
If you don’t have a legitimate 3 point shooter(s) on your team, don’t shoot them.
Tell em you hurt to not let him shoot A FREE THROW IS NASTY WORK!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Whats extremely alarming, is after that game where the Bulls and Hornets missed the most 3s in a single game in history, Ayo Dosunmu was asked a question and he word for word said: "We got up 51 threes, so thats good". Why thats alarming, is thes eguys DONT SEE THE PROBLEM. They literally do not care how many they miss or what the percentage is, because analytics say if you shoot more 3s you have a higher chance of making more 3s, and if you make more 3s you have a higher chance of winning the game. Its simple math to these teams now. Chuck more 3s up you increase your chances of winning. This is SO detrimental to the sport and this is just the surface of hoe bad it can be. This will have a serious lasting impact on the purity of the game.
Make the dunk worth 3 points. Will crate an initiative to score in paint, plus will create more action ( like someone getting dunked on. that's a 4 point play!)
Stop talking basketball
Giannis would use this loop hole
The way Gil talk about the league like he not literally raising the revemge is crazy. His son will be his final laugh at the league lil dude a savage on the court.
Adapt or die. Either shoot 3s or get blew out.
or shoot a combo of 3s, 2s, layups and dunks and watch the other team brick the rock.
No true, more post play you can wear players down an get open looks
@@Executnr and once they double the post... do you want guys spaced out by the 3pt line.. or hovering around the midrange and corners like they did in the 2000s?
@@Krazyman5150ninjaThey don’t understand the game at that level
Your the nerd Lexie speaks of smh
“Next one gonna go in” 💀🤣🤣
The game is now which team misses the most 3s
I thought they said this was the best era of basketball
Right and now it’s a problem. I see why people stop watching basketball
Teams have been trying to out Golden State, Golden State until they realize Golden State actually had the personnel to shoot 3’s.
The Warriors had personnel and they ran plays. These teams dont have schemes.
Every champion of the last 20 years had the personnel to shoot them what are you talking about?
@@lenzoltanThese teams after the Warriors never had the personnel.
We hear this argument over and over. Until a team goes traditional and changes things, it’s not going to stop.
If you don’t like it, beat it. Plain and simple.
You can't go traditional anymore.
The moment the others know you can't shoot you are finished you are easy to defend.
Shaq said they legalized zone defense to stop him and they did.
The funny part about that game was it was the 90 3p attempts and neither teams even cracked 110 points 😂
Dirk Nowitzki, made 1.0-2.9 three-pointers per game on average.
Not just nba I play with younger people and they will pass on open layups, shoot from 8ft behind the 3 point line never crash boards, never make cuts and sit at the 3 point line. I’m sick of it.
I coach a 3rd and 4th grade team. And they are the same way. Stephen curry was a gift and a curse to the game.
@ it’s also how people think and coach. They don’t only learn from tv. Someone is teaching them that shooting 3s is more valuable. Wide open lanes and perfect pickn rolls r learned by teaching them. I would say it’s more of a thinking game and kids find it easier not to think just to throw it up.
I don't play pickup basketball anymore but the last time I did, the people on my team were shooting half court shots none of us would NEVER have done playing in my younger days on the courts. It kind of ruined it for me because what's the point of playing defense or smart basketball if all you're going to do is watch somebody jack up threes on a fast break when you see me literally running towards the rim? It's not cool to see a 7''5" player (Wemby) shot 9 three-point shots a game when he's so good and big that no one can stop him from scoring on the inside. You need to use your size and skill to your full advantage.
The only thing you can do is reduce the 3 point shot to 2.5 or 2.3 points. It's completely the fault that the 3 point shot is worth too much. Imagine if the financial institutions had an exploit this crazy. Well, every single institution would clamor to exploit it to the fullest extent until new laws were instituted to level the exploit. Basketball has a PROBLEM. the 3 point shot is OP and exploitable, and the 3 point shot will be exploited to it's fullest extent until the exploit is leveled.
2.3 wtf are you saying right now cuh 😂😂
Good ? What do y’all think about luka shooting bout 15 threes a game?
Cause you can shoot the 3 doesn’t mean you should shoot the 3😢
It’s made certain players major liabilities on defense and offense. Some of them completely just forgot how to get in the paint and draw contact.
Wemby shooting deep threes! Insane
Defense is part of the game. They reduced the defensive pressure in the league and gave this perception that they have more skill players/better scorers in today's game.
I remember complaining about the Rockets in the WCF like 10 years ago. Seeing Harden Chuck 3s all game annoyed the hell out of me. I know winning is the goal, but ENTERTAINMENT should be the #1 priority! It's like these owners and players forget that ALL of the revenue from TV to tickets to parking come from the fans desire to be entertained. The win at all costs, championship or bust mentality has led to all of the load management and overemphasis of 3 point shooting. It's BORING and fans have too many other avenues for entertainment to watch a game where it's a 3 point shooting contest if the star player are even playing at all
Thank you for Finally Adressing this ... Do Away with the 3-point line ... and Play Basketball Again ...
There is a reason teams are shooting that many threes, just look at the Celtics its simple math. When healthy they have a whole starting line up of shooters, even their 7'2 Center is a sniper. And then 1-2 on the bench and a Steph Curry level shooter in Pritchard this season. They don't even have to shoot that well to win games. They shoot like 50 threes a game TEN MORE THAN THE 2ND PLACE IN 3PA. And they make 37% of them on average which is really good. You basically have to hope they not hitting their shots to have a chance, cause its almost impossible beating them when they shooting like that. Don't forget that a guy like Pritchard can always get hit and hit like 3-4 in a row.
You may not like it, but its the most effective way to play basketball in the modern NBA.
Slightly disagree. Move the 3pt. line back by 2feet, bring back hand checking, bring back 5 seconds in the paint. The reason they refuse to do so, is because they want the bloated stats to justify certain players ‘GOAT’ status (🙄) and for gambling parlay reasons, we will continue to not watch, and the game we love will keep failing.
No 3 point line would erase steph whole career if he played in a no 3 era
What an overreactionary, childish take 😂 that's like Shaq's teams wanting to do away with free throws.
@@rexisright Basketball was much, much, much better before ...
I’m getting the assumption that players that shoot more threes, Suck at going into the basket. Their Cop out is that they are only Driving to the Lane just to go to the free throw line and get their point like that
The Rockets with D'Antoni started the 3s and dunks philosophy
Facts. Somebody paying attention and I'd put it on 2017 is when this all started to happen.
Ol girl and Kmart look like they jus took that thanksgiving walk 😂
Statistics don’t lie, given the current rules this sort of basketball is the meta and will continue to be unless the rules are changed.
I blame the players for being LAZY and shooting all of these 3s, because the 3-Ball is the easiest shot to get off in basketball and I blame the spineless coaches for allowing it! I swear every time I watch an NBA game today I start yelling at my phone for someone to cut to the basket or post up in the mid! 💩 crazy man! SMH
It's the gambling. Point shaving. And most importantly the lack of defense. The vilification of draymond green
It’s funny when we say something good about the game it’s because “the players are playing” but when we talk about the bs it’s all the coaches and analytics people
Brandon Miller is a shooter despite that horrendous performance
75 missed 3s is crazy work .. I don’t even think u can shoot that many 3s in 2k😂
Everyone wanna be Curry 😂😂😂😂
This is NOT TRUE AND THESE GUYS ARE TAPPIN… go look it up, only certain teams shoot threes. Yesterday was just the WORST TWO AND YALL GENERALIZING
Only one person in the league should be even remotely close to shooting 15 threes a game, and that’s Steph Curry.
It was definitely the suns with Nash and Amare that got Nash a MVP, and D’Antoni’s rockets team that took GSW to 7 with KD. That model challenged that GS team and teams played copy cat
Jordan Poole shot Twenty 3s In a Game this Year. WILD
8:40 lol that no came from the soul
We are living in a day and time where Gil pants are tighter then Lexi Brown pants
Swaggy P pants look like a algebra equation
Nah Nick is exactly what this podcast needed bruh lol
I CALLED THIS BACK IN 2018!!!
Its no one player thats responsible for this. Its the statistic that teams that shot more 3s tended to win games. When that started going around, teams just began chucking up 3s all game. The game has no strategy anymore and its all about analytics.
That’s not the league doing that. It’s the coaches
The blame should go to the bigs that started shooting 3s, centers are not supposed to shoot 3s, Dirk started the revolution now most centers are doing it
the worst thing to me is the league ridiculed ben simmons for not taking a shot he didnt feel comfortable with and wanting to shoot a higher oercentage shot now they just allow random asss role players to shoot shots they shouldnt shoot, just because you on the court doesnt mean thats your shot , we still need post players we still need rebounders and defenders but nah everyone wanna be a shooter all of a sudden
i blame the warriors not in a bad sense but because they made it look good but mfs gotta realize they not them and stay in they lane
If you live off midrange in today's game you're going to lose by 15 to 30 points if your opponents shoot decently from 3. They don't even have to be great. Just an average shooting night will make you go back to 3s and layups.
Remember when big men shooting 3s was like a boneheaded shot like a laughable attempt 😂
I’d rather see somebody mess up a wide open dunk than the fast break threes they take
Love this show
Daryl Morey is the man that ruined the league.
K-Mart telling Drummond to take the turnover rather than shoot is wild lmfao.
Coaches don't give af anymore. They get guaranteed massive contracts. If they get fired they can go be an assistant on a contender. Get rid of guaranteed contracts across the board, lower player salaries until they are vets. If players are hungry and want to make money they will play harder.
Steph curry ain’t to blame nah?😂but when it’s positive …
Steph didn't tell them how to shoot. Steph shoots 200 3s every practice, them other players thinking they can shoot 10 3s a game like Steph just bcoz they can shoot? It's their fault, not Steph
I blame people like Gil for sayin’ dumb sh*t like “Curry doesn’t have talent, he just works hard.” If what he did wasn’t a talent, then many more players would be able to shoot as accurately as he does…but they they *COULDN’T.*
It’s not the nerds, it’s the owners who hire them. If you’re gonna treat an NBA franchise like it’s one of your toys, then the league should take that team away from you. There is no way you can’t see this style of play isn’t working for your team. Viewership being down is a myth, there’s a lot of people illegally streaming games so it doesn’t count towards the ratings. The NBA keeps growing globally, so they’re making a lot of money and these owners only care about that fact. It’s all about the bottom line and you can’t have owners with that mindset. You’re letting some nerd who never played basketball convince you how basketball is played. They don’t understand any nuances and there evaluations have no context.
Can't call Steph Curry a 'game changer' and then get mad when other teams try to play catch-up by going to the 3-ball more and more!
You also can't blame teams going to the 3-pointer more when refs don't call 'walking', 'carrying', "traveling", while allowing stars like LeBron to "flop" just to the free throw line!
I get the anger on the fans side but why haven coaches perfected a defense to stop all the 3's. I feel once the defenses start blocking the total number will go down.
Bra everybody not good at shooting 3s and it’s showing like dam that’s crazy 92 threes