How Realistic Is Float Flying In Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024?

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  • How realistic is float flying in MSFS 2024? Do we get improvements over 2020? How big can the waves get? Real big!
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  • @poochies0316
    @poochies0316 Місяць тому +5

    Non float flyer here just chiming in on my experience with this sim playing it daily on free flight and taking photos at all the national parks in USA in bell 407 , I’m seriously impressed with the tech and the graphics. Yes there’s some draw in of vegetation but the mountains , canyons , rivers , thousands of tree types , windshield effects , etc etc are top notch . Best 60 bucks I’ve spent since msfs 1 in ‘83 lol

  • @GulfCoastTim
    @GulfCoastTim Місяць тому +5

    Anyone that knows me will know that im a floatplane fan. Lost track how many float planes flights ive flown in 2020 even with no physics of any kind. So I been loving the new water physics in 24. Landing in choppy waters is rather challenging. You are right about pontoon planes compared to flying boats. Flying boats can handle far more chop. I haven't tried the big Latecorere 631 yet in 24 but will soon. Sadly my Dornier Do J and Do X hasn't ported over to 24 yet. So yeah, i really like what they done so far with the water and waves effecting the planes. Oh and btw, when you zoomed out @21:24 it looked like a real overhead aerial view from a drone.

  • @GAMBLE45X
    @GAMBLE45X Місяць тому +6

    Thanks for showcasing floatplanes. I hope in career mode they add a more missions variety for floatplanes. I started my career in Alaska. Began in Anchorage and making my way to Fairbanks and eventually all over.

  • @pedrorego940
    @pedrorego940 Місяць тому +1

    From Cockpit Warning to "Shut up" is a mere 300ms gap... that is quite a fast response :D On another subject, Wild Life are also to be taken into account when observing the landing area. Don't hit the ocasional Beaver or Hipo ;) Always a pleasure to watch your videos Rach, cheers!

  • @gdwnet
    @gdwnet Місяць тому +3

    7:28 huh, AvAngel can walk on water, she is a literal goddess! I knew it! Your laugh after that is epic 😂
    I'm still 50/50 on MSFS2024, I think I'll hold out for a bit longer.

  • @ceegnz
    @ceegnz Місяць тому +5

    "I am a deity" BWAHAHAHA funniest flightsim video I've seen in ages, I'm still laughing :)

  • @gregcharles7431
    @gregcharles7431 17 днів тому +1

    Great cross-wind landing with the Albatross. The baby Jesus sometimes shows up to help with my landings too!

  • @sascenturion
    @sascenturion Місяць тому +2

    Walking on water! ....😮
    Always knew your special Avangel!!
    ( great fun again thanks)

  • @carlhausler9666
    @carlhausler9666 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks Angel! 2 things, awesome landing in the Albatross on land, reminded me of my glider days in big breeze but you have to hit the runway. My Dad flew the Navy P5 Marlin, a huge seaplane. I remember he was in a non flight assignment and to maintain proficiency flew with the US Coast Guard occasionally and they had the Albatross (UF). He said it was like flying an Italian sports car. He loved it

  • @energymacks
    @energymacks Місяць тому

    I had no idea you could add waves with a wind layer until this video, it is beyond fun.

  • @stevewhan7308
    @stevewhan7308 Місяць тому +1

    I like it so far.
    Lookin king fwd to them perfecting the surface physics, longer wake and spray effects. Especially spray washing across the windscreens.

  • @Joey_Nova
    @Joey_Nova Місяць тому +1

    After I saw the albatross and the cessna 408, there was no question about the premium deluxe package for me!

  • @ellonysman
    @ellonysman Місяць тому +1

    Gorgeous water effects!😅 I do hope that bit of stuttering on take off from the Airport gets better because on a high end pc like yours that should be smoother 😮If you like this region and Belka Coola, try flying in the Rockies on the Alberta/BC border. ❤

  • @glennmullis1477
    @glennmullis1477 Місяць тому +1

    Running 🏃‍♀️ on the water. Hahahaha Hahahaha 😆 I love it!

  • @antonioiozzi291
    @antonioiozzi291 Місяць тому +3

    AvAngel that walk on water! Miracle! 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @090giver090
      @090giver090 Місяць тому

      OK, let's check if she can turn it into wine 😁

  • @FlightSimVRDad
    @FlightSimVRDad Місяць тому +1

    That last landing was WOW! 😳Well done IMO

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому +1

      Bonkers is my specialty

  • @urszemp4539
    @urszemp4539 Місяць тому +2

    Don't know why, but watching all that water splashing somehow Bobby Darin comes to my mind: "Splish-splash, I was taking a bath
    Long about a Saturday night, yeah .....singdidelsumblablawistlepfpfpf ...." ;-)

  • @LotusSimulations
    @LotusSimulations Місяць тому

    @AvAngel That was one hell of a landing! Bravo. I doubt I could have saved that one. Thanks you for another fun showscase of the Albatross. Glad you're enjoying it! I agree with all your comments on the water by the way, hopefully it will improve over time. The plane still needs a couple of tweaks in that area as well, but water interaction is still very much undocumented witchcraft in the sim. When it works it works really well, and when it doesn't... well... Also, there are global problems with water physics in TIN areas currently. It's not behaving correctly. Asobo's aware of them. The area you're flying in is fine though.
    Speaking of tweaks... You're missing out on some neat windshield effects I spent many many hours implementing, and which will make those landings into the sun just a little more realistic, and possibly scary. Can you please try running with "Raymarched Reflections" set to Ultra and "Windshield Effects" set to high? There is a bug in the UI where setting them to high or ultra doesn't stick. To fix that, set "Global Rendering" to Ultra and then reduce the other things you want to, but leave those other two at their max. I think you'll find it worth checking out. :) Thanks again!

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому +1

      I will when I can, but right now between the servers and my own settings im still struggling to get solid performancce but I will raise those when I can!
      As for the water... yeah, this is the weird bit.. I've seen far more realitic performance on water from flying boats than float planes. I suspect it's to do with relative position from float points to the reference datum location... or simply LONGER floating contact area vs the short 'visible' floats... that perhaps setting contact points 'invisibly' further out on float planes may stabalize them more from the skipping.

  • @jayeffaar
    @jayeffaar Місяць тому

    Watching you bounce around in the waves while taking off, I had only one thought: "I have to try that in VR in my motion seat!". 😍

    • @Terribleguitarist89
      @Terribleguitarist89 Місяць тому

      Saw one dude in a discord had his motion seat launch him into the drywall while trying out 2024 😅

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому

      Oof gag

  • @marshie1337
    @marshie1337 Місяць тому +1

    Float flying needs work but it sure is a big improvement visually over 2020 for sure

  • @KAPAFlyer
    @KAPAFlyer Місяць тому +1

    I found out today, you can start Cold & Dark literally ANYWHERE you want. Absolute game-changer for me!
    Haven't tried to see if it works with Floaties.
    I plan on getting PDE soon and love that we get both glass and analog for the Albatross.

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому

      It does work with floaties too!

    • @captaincasualmusic
      @captaincasualmusic Місяць тому

      Yes! Quite odd how no-one's talking about it, honestly. It's a small thing, but literally one of the best changes. Makes sooo many things more feasible, including cold & dark startups from little airfields that don't have parking spaces in the sim. And yes indeed, floaties can cold and dark anywhere, too. No more spawning at the nearest airfield and using slew mode. :p

  • @hakeemadam955
    @hakeemadam955 Місяць тому +2

    A real angel walking on water!

  • @hawkhunter8180
    @hawkhunter8180 Місяць тому

    I'm 75% finished with my cross-county from Long Beach, CA to London, UK and back... in the Hughes H4. Boy am I tired. Float planes are fun!

  • @AviatorRichy
    @AviatorRichy Місяць тому

    I just installed the FBW A380 for msfs! can't wait to fly it!

  • @flyingfreak90
    @flyingfreak90 Місяць тому +1

    You can click shift+c to enter the plane no matter how far away

  • @taiser_35
    @taiser_35 Місяць тому +1

    Not very, but it is fun. I flew bush planes with a float endorsement. I love re-creating some of my bush flights in Ontario. Can't really blame them though, getting the physics right for this would be hard to do...

  • @johnthomson8692
    @johnthomson8692 Місяць тому

    you can check wheels up, looking through the little round window, in the cockpit floor

  • @Antares2
    @Antares2 Місяць тому

    I do like how you are a person rather than a plane in FS2024... But I am still holding off for a bit until they iron out some of the bigger issues. Looks nice though.

  • @kyledeitz2760
    @kyledeitz2760 Місяць тому

    How do you walk around in 3rd person? My avitar is always in 1st person.

  • @channeleamon
    @channeleamon Місяць тому +1

    7:25 oh snap AvAngel is now bigger than Jesus

  • @antonioiozzi291
    @antonioiozzi291 Місяць тому

    Yust one question. How is in term of performance compared with MSFS2020?

  • @PeterNGloor
    @PeterNGloor Місяць тому

    If you are using the Bravo throttle setup - do you, or can you, use the trim wheel? It works on some planes for me but not on many.

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому

      Yep it works for me, seemed better than 20 too!

  • @aussiecaptsarcasm9100
    @aussiecaptsarcasm9100 Місяць тому

    Just a suggestion. 1)- increase you rolling cache to 32Gb 2)- before recording clear your cache and then fly your route without recording 2)- fly the route recording. This in theory at least should put as much of your flight as possible into cache and therefore be a) quicker to retrieve b) leave more internet bandwidth open to download those things it has to. Hopefully this will improve your experience. Other than that a video up to your usual impeccable standards thanks AV

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому +1

      It is on 32, but it's not helping much till I get my new ram.

  • @BearWa11ace
    @BearWa11ace Місяць тому +1

    You gotta love those hot sauce on crab, landings.

  • @ClinchRiverHomestead
    @ClinchRiverHomestead Місяць тому

    When it starts to stutter like that real bad toggle windowed mode and full screen . I found when going windowed the stutters stopped

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому

      Only did it once in takeoff kinda hard to tab in and out lol

  • @Viviansen
    @Viviansen Місяць тому

    The last landing is absolutely insane.😳

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому +1

      I'm a specialist at insane.

  • @zachfrack2952
    @zachfrack2952 Місяць тому +1

    Wait that island looks so pretty to fly out of and into. Can you share the airport code for that I definitely want to fly there.

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому +1

      CBBC Campbell Island and CYJQ Denny Island :D

  • @andrewbennett2582
    @andrewbennett2582 Місяць тому

    Where was the departure airport for first flight in the 172?

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому +1

      Denny island

    • @andrewbennett2582
      @andrewbennett2582 Місяць тому +1

      @@AvAngel thanks so much for this. I miss the loading screen in 2020 when you can see the aircraft and the airport. I like to fly at some of the locations you fly, and I was so nice just to be able to see which airport you were at on the loading screen.

  • @MisterNashies-mv2my
    @MisterNashies-mv2my Місяць тому

    If they have gotten rid of the water walls that are in 2020, I will be happy. I was puttering around San Francisco Bay in the Goose and decided to go under the Golden Gate Bridge because who wouldn't? *BOOM* "You have crashed into the water." Hit one in southeastern Lake Superior in the Icon and encountered another in Lake Pend Orielle in Idaho. It would be a shame if they offered so many float planes and still had water walls everywhere.

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому +1

      So far it seems so... but that's not really a 100% answer YET. But it seems better in that particular regard.

  • @acn-70
    @acn-70 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for the video.
    If you open the door in flight, the flight stops, on the ground I don't now that can be possible.
    Regards

  • @i.r.wayright1457
    @i.r.wayright1457 Місяць тому +1

    There is a bug....a water bug...a skimmer.

  • @malcolmhart5951
    @malcolmhart5951 Місяць тому +1

    Still missing water on the windows. :(

    • @jasonlescalleet5611
      @jasonlescalleet5611 Місяць тому

      Yeah, and you *do* get that in the rain, so I know the sim is capable of that.

  • @pedrodefigueiredo7872
    @pedrodefigueiredo7872 Місяць тому

    Godess please showcase the Beaver !

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому +1

      Mmm perhaps but it still hath bugs

  • @RetroAmateur2
    @RetroAmateur2 Місяць тому

    So waves do affect your plane now?

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому +1

      Yes quite a bit

    • @RetroAmateur2
      @RetroAmateur2 Місяць тому

      @@AvAngel That's nice. Last fs they didn't and it was a bummer.

  • @confuseddad2865
    @confuseddad2865 Місяць тому +1

    Horrid, the water is still like 3m deep. Planes hit invisible barriers sigh

  • @dcs-web-editor
    @dcs-web-editor Місяць тому +2

    "Thank you, Karen" 😂

  • @padeksewenejt1032
    @padeksewenejt1032 Місяць тому +1

    Cardboard plane lands on blue matrese. Msfs2024...

  • @antebellum45
    @antebellum45 Місяць тому +1

    👍🏻😳👍🏻😆

  • @scotty6346
    @scotty6346 Місяць тому +1

    @AvAngel i love your channel but can you talk a little bit slower? I have tinitus and am 61 years old and i have to keep rewinding back to get an idea of what you are saying as you speak so fast!

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому

      I will try! I get excited 😛

    • @scotty6346
      @scotty6346 Місяць тому +1

      @@AvAngel Thanks for getting back! 💗

    • @davecole593
      @davecole593 Місяць тому

      try subtitles

  • @donaldholman9070
    @donaldholman9070 Місяць тому +1

    Truly a goddess!

  • @wout123100
    @wout123100 Місяць тому +1

    fun yes

  • @Pondimus_Maximus
    @Pondimus_Maximus Місяць тому

    Shift + C will put you back in the plane, no matter how far away you are. =)

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому +1

      Not as funny as chasing my plane.

  • @zaelu
    @zaelu Місяць тому

    How do you switch to 3rd person? I know of the setting to allow 3rd person in "Advanced options" but how do you actually switch to it?
    Also, you missed a HUGE legacy from MSFS2020 - when you are in the water with gear up and you put the gear down the plane climbs with the gear on the water like a Jesus plane... like you did with the character. It still bounces on the waves but obviously not realistically as it floats now on wheels and not on floats.
    I find it funny in a way that a person deciding to do a review to the feature can miss such a glazing problem and I think this is also how the entire MS/Asobo team missed it altogether... Like many features...
    Watching the bugs of 2024 is depressing...

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому

      Its a setting in the menu under other options for 3rd person camera allowed.

    • @zaelu
      @zaelu Місяць тому

      @@AvAngel I know that... doesn't do anything for me. Do you need to toggle it on off somehow?

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому

      Yep just go 3rd person like usual with your usual keybind once its on. For me that's End.

    • @zaelu
      @zaelu Місяць тому

      @@AvAngel Ah, so there is such a key bind. Thank you. I wonder if it turns on and off the avatar in VR also... cause ! can see the 1st person body only in 2D.

    • @zaelu
      @zaelu Місяць тому

      @@AvAngel OK... it doesn't work :D That's the normal Cockpit/External camera switch. I have only 1st person view. The only little moment I see the 3rd person character is when Hitting escape.... the camera floats away from the character and reveals it for a second. Weird. No mods. Default key binds.

  • @TheBabie113
    @TheBabie113 Місяць тому +1

    Hello from another lady sim pilot love the video. Would live to fly with more chicas

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому +1

      Hey there! We are few indeed!

    • @TheBabie113
      @TheBabie113 Місяць тому +1

      @@AvAngel yep we are the unicorns of flight simulation AvieSkyMiles is my game tag if you fancy a flight.

  • @martinpengelly9155
    @martinpengelly9155 Місяць тому

    Sorry, but cant see how it can be 'realistic' if haven't experienced the real thing? It cant be I have time on Beavers, Otters, Norsemen etc etc. No day is the same, and somehow think these sims are just pointing shapes around the sky. I may be a little harsh, I apologise, but its not realistic is it?

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому +1

      I can academically compare it... I did say I don't ahve real world float experience, but I do have real world BOATING experience, so I do understand water to a fair degree and I understand the techniques for float flying. Is it? No it's not realistic sadly.

  • @JamesSmith123456789
    @JamesSmith123456789 Місяць тому +2

    bye bye

  • @snakepill
    @snakepill Місяць тому

    Dont put your avionics on before you start your engine.

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому

      Not always a thing…

  • @VoyagerSimProject
    @VoyagerSimProject Місяць тому +1

    ✅ ☑ 🏁

  • @stefanblackadder5236
    @stefanblackadder5236 Місяць тому +1

    Jesus Christ hahaha

  • @nolanono2532
    @nolanono2532 Місяць тому

    Floatplane pilot IRL and it's horrid

    • @AvAngel
      @AvAngel  Місяць тому

      It's... borderline better than 20, which... isn't much.

    • @nolanono2532
      @nolanono2532 Місяць тому

      @AvAngel It's very slightly better, which frustrates me more. They clearly know it's bad. For now if I want to do anything floats related I use X-Plane, but with the scenery and all the attention bush flying has received in 2024 it's so heartbreaking that water is still badly represented

    • @russellburnup1939
      @russellburnup1939 Місяць тому

      @@nolanono2532 x plane 12 is pretty crap to isn't it? They act nothing like boats or real water dynamics

    • @nolanono2532
      @nolanono2532 Місяць тому

      @@russellburnup1939 XP12 float physics are the best I've ever seen in a sim. They're quite accurate to the 172s 180s and 185s I've flown irl on floats. Visually the sim is lacking but the float physics are genuinely quite good

  • @gabor-toth
    @gabor-toth Місяць тому +7

    It doesn't feel realistic at all, and honestly not much different than 2020, especially in calm waters. Seems like an afterthought.

    • @GulfCoastTim
      @GulfCoastTim Місяць тому +12

      It is way different then 2020, huge step up in 24. In 2020 water didn't even have physics at all. I tried landing in choppy waters off the coast of Sable island. I tried over 15 times and could not land. I have over 2500 hours in flight sim and at least half or more of that is with seaplanes and flying boats. It's what I do

    • @thatguy7085
      @thatguy7085 Місяць тому +2

      It is extremely had to simulate the feel of a sea plane without a moving platform.
      Helicopter is better in VR.

    • @SingleShotSingleTake
      @SingleShotSingleTake Місяць тому +4

      Haters gona hate.