Police Are “Stuck Between A Rock And A Hard Place” When Policing Protests
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- Former Met Police Detective Inspector Hamish Brown MBE, says police are “stuck between a rock and a hard place” when policing protests.
Six people have been arrested as a St George’s Day event was held in Whitehall.
Videos posted on social media show disorder breaking out and people being detained by officers at the event, which was attended by Tommy Robinson, who was one of the speakers.
The Metropolitan Police posted on X, formerly Twitter, earlier on Tuesday to say they expected “far-right groups and groups linked to football clubs” to attend.
Four arrests were made outside a pub in Whitehall - one on suspicion of assault and three on suspicion of assaulting an emergency worker, the Metropolitan Police said.
Julia Hartley-Brewer says: “I don’t accept that! They could just do their job.”
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English people celebrating St George’s Day! Stop calling it a protest! I’m sick of this shite!
Yes👍🏻 It was a celebration not a fucking protest, why don’t the‘media’ say this?
The establishment are pushing patriotic English people up against the wall and when they face the inevitable backlash, they will label all good English folk as far right.
St George was a Greek with a Palestinian mother who never even knew Britain existed.
I’m Scottish & watched whole streams and I found it very emotional and felt the pride with you all. Let’s see when it’s our turn for St. Andrew’s! The police had road blocks out before Tommy got out court they was already set up to interfere!!! Stop blaming those celebrating their English heritage!!
@@brianferguson7840 St George fought and died for Christianity, and that is why we named him our saint.
St Patric the patron saint of Ireland, St Andrew the patron saint of Scotland were both Roman. You don’t have to have come from that land to be taken as their saint. St David the patron saint of Wales was the only one that hailed from the land he was saint of. He was born in Pembrokeshire Wales. What’s your point?
Muslim mayor. That’s all you need to know.
Just like in the states here The squad horrible women in congress
And?
The Khan’t is wanting a Third term like the Kenyan in Washington DC.
@@run2cat4runhe doesn’t like England but does like Hamas. Hope that helps.
What the bloke above said. Only he hopes it helped you.
I know it hasn’t.
Deus Vult.
Why can’t he be honest, one rule for white English and one for muslims & the left
So true
his reading from a script !
The left and all other foreigners can abide by sharia law, to serve them right, native patriotic Brits exempt...
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They don't want Islam to think they get special treatment 😂 😆
Two-tier policing Again. Vote reform if you want to stop the madness
Reform 😂 it's just a refuge for disgruntled tories.
@@robertcreighton4635 it’s for disgruntled voters who can’t trust either of the main two parties. I don’t find it amusing that our government think they have the right to do as they please and treat us like 2nd class citizens in our own country.
@@twistedsister2568 reform same as the other parties in league with hope not hate. Reform won't change anything
I will vote Reform
Just wondered….. how many Reform M.P.s were in the house to hear Andrew Bridgen last week? That should decide whether or not they will “stop the madness”.
Show us the intelligence of FAR RIGHT and FOOTBALL HOOLIGANS Load of BS.
Tommy Robinson?
Have you ever listened to a speech by or interview with Tommy Robinson? Or is your information from secondary sources? I used to be contemptuous of the man until it struck me that I'd never heard his own views from his own voice. I had read and heard news reports about him. I had absorbed a lot of commentary about him but I had heard very little from the horse's mouth. So I searched out interviews with the man expecting my views to be confirmed. I was surprised. Very surprised. He was considerably more moderate and with more classically liberal leanings than I had ever thought possible given what I had read about him. He is very far from being a fascist unless one is misusing the term. It's true that he spent a short amount of time with the BNP in his youth but very quickly realised they didn't reflect his views. The EDL started taking on a life of its own after he started it and he saw it was moving in a direction he wasn't happy with so he stepped down and severed ties with his own organisation. Carl Benjamin did an interesting interview with him where they both agreed on a number of classically liberal ideas. It may still be on UA-cam I'm not sure. I'm not saying that you'd necessarily agree with him regardless because I know nothing about your personal viewpoints. What I do know is that the media have done and continue to do an utter hatchet job on this man and consistently misrepresent what he stands for and what he believes.
@@annishilcock4587
Oh dear ? 🙄🤪😜🤣😂🇬🇧🇮🇱
@@TobyLeRone-fu5eg Oh dear? Do you have a problem?
Exactly, if you’re not just a sheep, blindly believing MSM and do your own investigation you will see that Tommy is totally misunderstood. Watch him at the Oxford Union and many other speeches and debates he has done then form your own opinion. Was he wrong about the grooming gangs, etc? He has been disgracefully treated by the authorities as was proven yet again on St George’s day when he was cleared from the trumped up illegal charges. It is absolutely disgusting the way he is constantly targeted.
Nothing happened for the police to do that, they blocked the path of people trying to get to the celebrations, there was enough citizen journalists there to see that.
Yup, and the reality i.e. that the police caused the trouble and WERE heavy handed, is on video on Mahyar Tousi's site.
Yes it's all on film
@@shirleyswaine4701 yep
@@shirleyswaine4701 yes I saw that too.
@@sarahhumphreys3980 And me.
That bloke has come up with all the usual far right rubbish - he should check out what happened instead of spouting ignorant rubbish.
Well said!
There were def some far-right people there. Many werent. But lets not lie and act like a police presence shouldn't have been there
@@DarkAngel2512
Utter nonsense
@@abcxyz4176 I saw it on video.
@@DarkAngel2512 You probably saw an edited clip made by some far left organisation like the BBC. If you saw the whole incident, and you have an open mind, you would have a completely different opinion of what occurred.
IT WASNT A PROTEST AND IT WASNT THE CROWD
St George's day is NOT a protest!!
No
Khan obviously had very hurty feelings 😢
St George's Day is a celebration
Yeah but as he said there were football fans there
Its another propaganda
Police were not happy to see Tommy Robinson free, that's why they were angry.
We are not far right for being proud English.
Am sick of these people calling the patriots farrrr right its rediculous
Yes there was too many old and frail than young fighting men.
Not far right just right so far.
If you have farrrr left you need ,,right,,people to get balance,,RIGHT,,
@@grash4435 lol bless ya
@@markmorrid8144 and most were wanting the lavatory and food...unbelievable the amount of toilets in Whitehall...
Clear double standards , it was a peaceful celebration from proud British people .Being blocked by the police from making their way to Whitehall.
Proud ENGLISH people.
When was that?
Right! In reality, it was scummy nobinson and his sheep there to cause trouble as they always do.
The police deliberately ‘kettle’ for no reason to provoke a response and give them an excuse, that is their tactic with 🏴. Their was no ‘intelligence’ apart from their paranoia with the ‘Far Right’ and their desire to give the MSM what they wanted
It was appalling attack on a St George’s celebration
Who believes that we would have two tier policing if the London mayor was not a Muslim ?
You mean who believes we wouldn't..
Khans done this hoping there was going to be trouble but the only trouble there was it was caused by police 2 tier policing
100%
I still see it as a total double standard…..I am ashamed
It's so obvious we have two tier policing in this country.
No it is an Oxymoron, but not worry none of them are bright enough to read this, and neither are snowflakes at Google.
That's just another word for cowardice.
It was a celebration not a protest
Precisely.
Celebration or protest? I think it was a bit of both. Either way it did not warrant the pre planned ‘over the top’ police reaction. I have been in the situation of being blamed by the Warwickshire Police for something that I didn’t do. I was lucky that I could prove they were lying as I was elsewhere on the date they said. I haven’t trusted the police since .
No it wasn't a bit of both. I was there it was a celebration of our identity. So stop being an armchair expert. Ffs
the police was not happy as TOMMY got one over them
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Exactly
Tommy got set up by his Israel Jew friend
A huge one , Kevin
It wasn't Tommy that got one over on the police. He didn't need to. It was the sheer incompetence of the police that ket Tommy fo free, as he should have been anyway.
Former Met police detective Peter Bleksley would not agree with him.
Police intelligence - there's a contradiction.
Oximoron
Along with Post Office management
Isn't it just
After that statement I was done😂
Agree, more like make the 'intelligence' suit the agenda the MET want to deploy on the day.
The crowd did not cause it the Police are to blame! 🤬
Watch the undercover police do all of the pushing and shoving to create the fake news for the dummies to suck up.
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Wrong. That crowd pushed up on police. And even later in the day people were being drunk and abusive to police. You cant just yell racist stuff and barge police and expect to be let through. Use some common sense. One yute was being racist right before that crowd barged police. Footage doesnt lie.
OMG here we go with the "far right" "football hooligans" BS form the old fogey...
Mayher Tousi's videos show this though. Not everyone there but the ones startjng with police. Like who barges police like that?😂
Far right my arse!!
Not far right just right so far!
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Def were some far right ppl there causing trouble sadly
Julia, don’t surrender to the political marxists and Islamists, I had 32 years policing in this country and it sticks out so blatantly that the police on the block yesterday were positioned to cause as much intimidation as possible to create a story for the left wing MSM. They had been allowing free flow of pedestrians for ages before the main gathering approached their barrier. There were already hundreds of patriots on the other side of their barrier so they were deliberately put in a position where they were between two crowds of people both enjoying the same event. Absolutely constructed to cause a reaction. 🏴🇬🇧🇫🇴
Well said Sir. I watched live on Tousi TV and you are spot on with what really happened yesterday. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you.
They got red buses to block them aswell..
The police even knocked an elderly lady to the ground
Have they got no shame
Clearly not .
Remember what they did to that guy in their kettling years ago when that old drunk just wanted to wander home but the met kettlled him with the protesters , threw him around and basically murdered him. They obviously have not learned from that.
He died in the end from brain injuries..
No - the modern Shustaffel - Oh they didn't do that - unless they were Jewish, Anti Nazi etc. Oh Google I've said words you don't like even though I was critizising them - do you stand for these ideologies?
Yes Mandy..Saw that
It looked heavy handed to me, and there was a striking contrast to policing on the "Palestinian" protests. Seems the same is happening at Speaker's Corner.
"Far right" my glutes!
But the pro Palestinian marches do not try and break through police cordons, they don’t hit horses, they don’t throw beer at police !!!
Because crowds barged police
The footage I saw on Maya Tousi's channel showed people being blocked off by the police, a group of people tried to push through and the police piled in and 2 mounted Police joined the fray. I wonder if this unnecessary behaviour was a deliberate tactic by the police to agitate? Nothing infuriates right wing Brits more than being told they can't move about freely in what is supposed to be a free country. I don't recall ever seeing the Saturday marchers being stopped from going anywhere they want. Why were people peacefully celebrating our national day being blocked, kettled and bullied, in extremely stark contrast to the hands-off approach the police take toward the Saturday marchers? It's surely racial prejudice to treat people with dark skin better than you treat people with light skin. It's surely religious prejudice to treat Muslims better than you treat Christians and Jews. Isn't about time the Home Secretary dealt with Khan and Rowley for overseeing these acts of prejudice?
That's my take on it as well. Like you, I watched it live. The police incited trouble by blocking the road off, and like clockwork, MSM jumped straight into action, broadcasting it to portray the narrative of the so-called 'far right thugs!' Both predictable and disgraceful.
Here. Here.
Absolutely.
Rubbish
@@jake751Yes you are
@@jake751prove it
2nd class in our own country
Time to rise up and be 1st class again
😢 It's happening here in the states as well😮
Rights for Indigenous people in the UK!
Exactly they should be listed as the Indigenous to be safe guarded as of any other country native indigenous are, and lands set aside in the country, the cities are lost...
The fact is you always have been - the royalty cannot marry a "commoner" but can marry a foreign criminal - the state thinks more of them than you. Stop respecting them.
How dare that fool insult us and call us far right , I am a 61 yr old woman with a professional job and yesterday I went to London with a 68 year old woman on a walking stick. We made the journey to London as we wanted for one day of year to be proud of our heritage and celebrate St Georges day. I could not believe my eyes as I approached the gathering only to be met by police in riot gear , with helmets strapped to their sides ready for some action!! I have watched the protests in London for the last 6 maths, I have watched police officers being attacked verbally and physically, have fireworks thrown at them and have stood by as people have flown flags for Hamas and Isis/sang out 'from the river to the sea' seen the destruction of our monuments and not once made an arrest! Also not once have they been in riot gear whist the Palestinian marches took place! The police were itching to kick it off with the public yesterday and they are a NATIONAL disgrace To think that ordinary English citizens all in a great mood, a real feeling of camaraderie were met with such disgraceful intimidation and hostility is an absolute disgrace! Two tier policing doesn't even cut it, there is something far more sinister going on here !!
I know, my love. It’s absolutely disgraceful. You keep waving your flag, and supporting your country! I appreciate you. 🏴
You’d have to blind to not see the different police tactics being used from the Pro Hamas/Palestinian protests and the St George’s day celebrations.
No, you have to be woke or thinking about your pension, they have no conscience at all.
one rule for immigrants and another for Native British people.
Once a CORRUPT MET COPPER ALWAYS A CORRUPT MET COPPER. THIS MAN IS ONE OF THEM.
correct... so totally ignorant of the facts he is laughable!
It was NOT a protest it was a celebration. I was there and the police were provoking many people. It is up to people to wear what they want eg football tops. Why were people being shoved using horses. WHY WHY WHY? are you calling the crouds far right. I haven't felt safer for months as I felt at the St Georges Celebration. Why were the police preventing people from going to join others at Tafalgar square. It was a great atmosphere but none of these videos are shown.
Thank you Samantha I was also there & like you witnessed everything..
Because of bus routes. One bus driver is under Paul Thorpe's video explaining this. It was about congestion. Same as Notting Hill Carnival.
It showed that on St George Day, British people were certainly treated poorly by Police. But Palestine marches Muslim's marches both flying their Flags Policestands well back the sizes of the marches are huge. Plus Police were very nasty towards a Jewish man trying to cross the road while the roads were blocked by Palestine marchers. Im sick of hearing Poor Police being stuck between aRock and a hard piece.RUBBBISH. why is it they drove police horses into old people just standing there knocking tgem to the floor. The British person did nothing. No wonder British people dont trust the Police we used to respect our Police Force. No one does now.
Check your facts before defending that supposedly innocent jewish man, that was a propaganda stunt by him Gideon Falter and he was the guy who reported TR to the police for nothing, causing TR his recent court case. The rest was quite accurate
What a plank. Far right, far right. It's the bogey man again. You can see the disdain on his Liberal face.
And by the way not a protest a celebration.
Perhaps we shouldn't be celebrating if this is the police we've got.
So Tommy saying no Palestinian supportors allowed on June 1st and one woman saying Rishi should go home isnt a bit far-righty? Cant people like my half Eng/half Palestinian friend attend both? Tommy is sewing division. He should have said anyone welcome whoo supports being English. Instead he is provoking division and saying supporting Palestine is a bad thing. Many ppl just feel bad for the innocent ppl killed on both Palestine and Israel side. Why do ppl have to pick sides ffs
@@DarkAngel2512
Okay? I see your point.
I have no interest in a conflict 3500 miles away. But my reply was about the far right label.
If you work hard, take care of your family and love your country, somehow you're far right? I'm not a supporter of Mr Robinson, but he has his views and he is entitled to them, for now.
@@Luthien01 if thats who you are and have been called names for then no. But there were def far right types there. Ive seen the footage. One woman saying Rishi should go back to where he came from
I don't condone that sort of rhetoric at all 👎 agree to disagree?
Absolutely two tier. It's a disgusting disgrace. The British people are not far righ we are patriotic and our proud of out heritage.
Where were the muslim states in fighting Nazis - Come on historians they were on their side.
St georges day is a celebration not a protest. Disgusting from khans muslim police force
The police like to start trouble when a St Georges flag is flown !
No Rock NO Hard place ,just an English flag in its own country see its not hard is it 🤯🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
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Why stop English Flag people..
Who the hell is far right even talk TV is classed as far right TV station
The police picked a fight with people with Flags...
Not weopons mind that is why there are so many stabbings.
This stinks to high heaven . I can remember how the tories & the police treated the minors during the strikes . Everyone is blaming Khan as they should but the middle class Tories are in government & I don’t hear them condemning the police or khan .
Do you also remember how the striking miners treated the families of the miners who wanted to carry on working...
Red wall Tories are working class. Labour is the party of the woke middle class now.
I agree…the police are not between a rock and a hard place….they must just do their job….with IMPARTIALITY
Not going to happen, the only people they will protect are in the government. Theresa May didn't cut police in Downing Street but everywhere else - useless hypocrite.
They just want their genourous pension, I've met them - Justice is not on their mind.
We were there yesterday. There were families there, one mother had 4 daughters there oldest about 12 years of age. Several old ladies in wheelchairs all of them far right thugs and soccer hooligans.
Trying to get there at 1:30 pm we were faced with a line of police in a line with about 4 ft between them. It was necessary to thread a route between them. I found it intimidating. Many many people were our ages, I am 79 and am convinced that the police were out to cause trouble.
Marxism 🤝 with Islam both controlling aggressive political cults and the police their enablers.
Pretty sure noone is accusing everyone in attendance of being far right😂😂 but lets not pretend none were there
Why does JHB still seem unaware of what actually happened? There is more than one long video out there which clearly shows the police provocation.
Yes and these will be shown on youtube soon.
@@samanthaostrowski6755 There are plenty of videos all over UA-cam now...
She is part of the problem, too scared to tell the truth
It wasn't a protest. It was a celebration of St George's Day, it was a celebration of being English.
100% double standards
The police suddenly put vehicles across the route of the march stopping the patriots procession for what appeared no good reason causing animosity. See Tousi tv
Because of Trafalgar Sqaure bus routes
What u expect when London Mayor Scottish 1st minister r Muslim...
And the Home Office Muslim Network - who have just recruited 700 muslims to INFLUENCE GOVT POLICY on MUSLIM needs - on OUR CASH ofc.
It was a peaceful St. Georges day celebration but the police were determined to cause trouble.
It wasn't a protest, it was St George's day 😡
Tell the truth police are frightened from none British demonstrations by foreigners. They like to be seen being heavy handed with British marches to please the foreign minorities.
The tweet from the Met and this ex-copper equate football fans with the far right. There is no far right, and coming from a Labour ( for decades) northern town I can tell you first hand that football hooligans are far more likely to be Labour voters than not. So are we suggesting that Labour voters are now far right?
Individual UK police officers have been hiding behind the 'we are just following our superiors orders' for far too long now, they are grown ups and they know exactly what they are doing in situations or should do.
Thats funny that what the SS said at Nuremberg, it did not work for them and it will not work for the Filth.
Only following orders......now where have we heard that before?
Just following orders - Neuromberg anyone?
I think they have forgotten who pays their wages maybe their wages should be cut until they start doing their job properly.
I’m telling you as a 60yr old lady that was there and the two tier policeing was so obvious it was embarrassing.. I’ve watched people every Saturday on these hate marches faces covered and picking on Jews and anyone that doesn’t agree with them.. they walk wherever they want .. a complete difference to how the natives from this country are treated..
Absolute lies !!!
GB News and Talk TV going down the lefty road. Only Michelle Dewberry stuck up for the crowd celebrating St George's day !
They are not far right! They are RIGHT.
Agree ACTUALLY right!!!
The word’s police and intelligence don’t seem to go together at the moment
Who are these far-right extremists and what did they do at that parade?
You can see them on the footage yelling abuse and barging police and being racist
Julia im ashamed at your wording. That minor scuffle on St George's day was caused by the police. Its called freedom of movement.
It was police kettling.
Where has that been week after week.
I knew he was going to say, far right. What a k...b
Bull, all these guests will not stand up and say the truth. 2 tiered police and Rowley and Khan must be removed from office.
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You are considered 'far right' just because you are English and proud of it.
Khan and rowley out they arent fit for purpose
Add Welby to that!
As soon as he said "the police would have intelligence" i was out 😂
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What planet does this guy live on
How about this for an idea. Why don't the police stay out of peoples business until there is trouble. Trying to stop trouble before it has started is a nonsense. We don't chastise our children for doing nothing wrong, just because we think they might.
They need to be there for thebsame reason as Notting Hill Carnival. To cordone off no-go areas like Trafalgar Square due to bus routes, to reduce congestion and to keep trouble makers out. That was what they were trying to do
I watched Mahyar Tousi's video of this and THIS WAS DISGUSTING!! The people on each side of the barrier were St. George's Day celebrants, not opposing forces, who just wanted to join up but the police started pushing and shoving and using the horses. By contrast, in Mr. Tousi's earlier video of the day, before the police had been sent in to create trouble, everyone was happy and smiling and having a good time.
Did he watch a different video to everyone else.
They don't see the plain clothes undercover cops doing the pushing and shoving then running off or standing down, they have a ready made narrative for the fake news dummies.
The police started the problems yesterday, they were kitted out for trouble and were looking for a fight.
Prepared for trouble
The police had information about a far right presence at the event = they phoned themselves up so they could have an excuse ...
Nah, it came from Khan and his sock puppet.If there was a squabble in an all white play school they would blame the tots of being far right and football fans.
Police will do as their Masters tell them.
More like as their Muslim master tell them, get Khan out.
@@kennethbowry1521 And take his weak sidekick Rowley with him.
The police separated the revellers at the St Georges celebration, it was the police that caused this. Its all on film.
It was a CELEBRATION not a PROTEST and it was the police at fault not the crowd.
SPOKE TO A COPPER I GREW UP WITH THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD TO DO IT THAT WAY PLENTY POLICE ON SUSPENSION BECAUSE THEY DON'T AGREE
Sorry I need to ask what you are saying as that makes no sense.
I don’t think there would of been trouble if the police hadn’t gone so heavy handed and arrived in full riot gear
Tell the truth about this
THEY POLICED IT LIKE A MAJOR FOOTBALL GAMES SO WRONG
Wasn’t even a March it was a celebration of the day? It should be a national holiday 🏴
So many people have cameras now, it can't be hidden anymore, it's all there being recorded week in week out.
Thank goodness, the truth is out there.
😆 Khans private army.
Brewer was happy to accept falter’s absolute nonsense !!!
She will TR Is part of Sly News IE the Establishment.
Falter showed the 2-tier policing up perfectly. As did yesterday's disgraceful "policing" thuggery.
The media should speak to the organisers and hear what they have to say.
White British/English people do as you're told everyone else do what you want.
Well said we never have done, We fought agains the Normans - - we didn't win in the short run - but did in the long one - the Normans became English and stopped talking French and they bacame our Royalty - oh shite - they bacame Germans and changed their name to look English.
I remember, not so long ago when the police looked like real men. No piercings, visible tatoos, long hair and they looked like they knew what they were doing. Most were respected by the public. Nowadays they look like they have just got out of bed. Most make up the law as they go along. THEY make me feel unsafe and unprotected. Standards need to be raised in writing and speaking too. You wouldn't expect a firefighter to be incompetent.
Loving your country does not make you Far Right it makes you a patriot.
the met were pissed because of the total embarrassment of the Tommy Robinson case
I watched livestreams of the parade, why did the police wait until the crowd were nearly level with them until they closed the road off? “Police had intelligence “ what a joke
Prob due to congestion or being tipped off yobs were on their way.
There is no rock and a hard place they should just police the law no matter what or who!. even this person saying the far right where there! and highlighting football fans which is his way of saying hooligans.
If you dare look closely you will see the undercover police doing the pushing and shoving of peaceful people then the main ones run off toward the police vans. Watch it and see what is happening, try it in slow-mo and see what the police and their sudden barricade was done for. Fake news for dummies!
Have you never been between a rock and a hard place, I've been there all my life and stil am - lucky you.
@@DavidHarvey-po9le the post was about policing and carrying out the law of the land which they are not doing! I would say everyone has been in that situation one time or another, and your point being?
There were some far right ppl there though. Call them out the same way we would extremists on The Left.
@@blotontheland My point being that the police don't care if you have committed a crime and indeed will treat you better if you had, they have a rapore with known criminals, they will and always have treated criminals as their equals and the rest of us as scum - do you get it now?
JHB totally unaware of what is going on.
Charging a horse at a 14 year old girl. Thats not a football hooligan. Or far right. .. . . Met police needs to explain that
If she was traumatised, put on a complaint?!
Right so far.
Communication from the police would have helped, someone on a megaphone saying why they had blockaded the road and respectfully requesting the route they would like the really to take/avoid. Deescalate by communication, and leave the assumptions at home just because someone waves the English flag and is white it DOES NOT mean they are racist, a football hooligan, or a far right bigot.
Good idea but they never need a megaphone at carnival. People normally ask police and get an answer. Ppl didnt ask or at least didnt wait for an answer before barging en masse through police.
Does anybody remember what happened on Remembrance Day? In UK especially the London Police are there to protect and possibly encourage demonstrations for foreign causes only.
Can you imagine on St. Patrick's Day in Dublin the Garda turning up in riot gear and horses and trying to Kettle the crowd because they are flying the Irish flag? I suspect there might be a reaction. No doubt the media would then broadcast the footage and claim that the crowd was 'Far Right'.
Its to reduce congestion and protect bus routes and keep yobs out
@@DarkAngel2512 whereas with the pro Palestinian marches….
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@@SAHBfan I dunno. Havent watched any. Im referring to what happened at St George's Day and police did their job which ppl are saying they shouldnt have. So if they shouldnt do their job on St George's ppl cant complain about it not being done on the Palestine marches. The only ppl who can complain are those being consistant and saying the police should do their job on both days.
@@DarkAngel2512 - Good grief, the whole point is that they are absolutely not consistent! You absolutely do need to watch what happens on the pro Palestine marches to understand the two tier policing that is applied. If you can’t be bothered to do that there is no point in you commenting.
@@SAHBfan as I said that isnt my arguement. My issue is ppl saying the police were wrong on the day. Im not saying they are right on the Palestinian marches. Youre taking up a diff topic with me to the one Im debating.
You can not stop someone who is not breaking the law to appease those that are, or disagree with and that applies to all these groups just because us normal people yes normal people doesn't make us racist or sexist or anti this or anti that the police and government are creating a divide so start looking in the mirror act on those that break the law not on those that you want to break the law
A boy was yelling out raciat stuff and seconds later a massive crowd barged police. What dyu want them to do when met with trouble makers? Id rather they keep them out of the festivities.
Your missing the point if they break the law then yes deal with it.when other marches happen and people break the law what happens nothing or they again pick on those who are protesting lawfully against them so stuck between a rock and hard place when it suits two tier policing
@@MalcolmSmith-fo4sn Police very much dealt with ppl at Palestine protests and there are videos to prove that.
But the police kicked it off plain and simple.
Yobs did actually. Watch the footage
What rubbish. Those 'football hooligans' are now middle aged men. If you look in the crowd you will see most of the people were not young, yes a few. The way this was handled by the police was a two tier policing once again. The indigenous people of England are very patriotic and for the police to stop people going forward by forming a line is disgraceful.
From my history classes many years ago didn't Admiral Nelson put his telescope to his blind eye so he couldn't see a message being sent to him......reminds me of that