Forgotten History: Jaite Ohio's Abandoned Paper Mill, Railroad, and Town
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2024
- The Jaite Mill Historic District is located in Sagamore Hills Township, Ohio within the Cuyahoga Valley. The site at one time contained a paper mill, company town, and railroad spur that served the factory.
Sources:
Historic American Engineering Record, Creator, and Charles Jaite. Jaite Paper Mill, West Highland Road, Sagamore Hills, Summit County, OH. Documentation Compiled After. Photograph. Retrieved from the Library of Congress.
NPS. 1979. “National Register of Historic Places Inventory- Nomination Form”. May 21. focus.nps.gov/pdfhost/docs/NRH....
“Tecumseh Corrugated Box Co. V. Commissioner, 932 F.2d 526 (6th Cir. 1991).” Justia Law, law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/932/526/289109.
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Love seeing history like this. Wish small towns could still thrive like they did back then. Thank you for posting.
I 2ND THAT!!!!!!!!!
They don't want small towns to thrive, the same with small farms and businesses.
The sign of the times... ARSON, and the Collapse of US Industry through the 70s, 80, 90s... went unmentioned on this video for most. For me in Dayton Ohio., They burned out the heart and souls of the city from the early 1950s on , as the cultural collapse was well underway, maybe due to Anti-Union Labor FORCES from overseas by Political CORP ORATE. Media fueled Racism and other decline
@@kevinj2412 Just east of Cuyahoga Pennsylvania just took a bunch of Amish and independent farms. Why stop at taking our small towns. COME for our small farms, and "White Houses" too. Tedros is here with the UNITED NATIONS Peace Keepers UH HUH. That's my Red brick with white trim... COME and take it. Valhalla is not for Sale. The US COUP GOVERNMENT is working with EVIL all the way. "VIOLENT MILITARIZED POLICE" ? That too. the Black Robed judge screamed at that one Amish Farmer
@@kevinj2412 The rich men in power who want everything?
My grandfather was working at this mill one day circa 1920 when he was badly cut and required medical attention. He was told there was no one to take him anywhere for help, but that he could WALK to St. Alexis Hospital on Broadway in Cleveland, seventeen miles away, which he then did, by following the B&O tracks north. Not exactly beneficent employers at the Jaite mill.
Wow that’s crazy! Now St.Alexis is a memory. My grandfather passed away in that hospital.
Ouch bet that hurt
That was very interesting. Thanks for sharing the history and showing us the remnants. That is a beautiful bridge.
I 2ND THAT!!!!!!!!!
I grew up right up Highland hill. We explored the valley before the parks redid it all. Got a VHS I need to covert of the abandoned paper mill and all the cars along the Cuyahoga. We explored everything down there. I went to the train trestle last summer and posted a short video of it. It was a lot harder to get to than the last time I was there 20 years ago!!
Native of NE Ohio and never knew this piece of history. Thanks for the stories.
Having grown up near here, I remember hiking there even before the parks took over. Back then, the switch was still intact off the main line, and all the way to the bridge it was clear to walk. There was no fence blocking the bridge and we would sit on the bridge with our feet over the side before continuing on to the mill to look around. I clearly remember all the old cars that were placed along the bank of the river to probably help stop the erosion. If I remember correctly these cars were removed when the parks "took over" parts of the valley. Later, probably in the mid to late eighties, I can remember going in parts of the mill. The staff's wash rooms, a maintenance garage and some other parts were almost as people had just left. It was eerily cool. It was a bad idea at the time, but the $100 fine then is now priceless, I guess your only 20 once! I remember the rolling machines in you video as they sat silent as they had for many years. Then it burnt down. I had thought the rolling machines were still sitting near the towpath bike and hike trail after the post fire demolition. Thanks for the answering some if the questions I have had regarding its history.
The rolling machine sit there to this day, hidden almost in plain sight right off the walk and bike path.
The "rolling machines" at 15:22 are. just as the narrator says, what remains of the two Fourdrinier papermaking machines. They not lined up exactly as they would have been in an operating paper mill. The long portions are the dryer drums. The paper coming off the Fourdrinier wire would go onto a moving felt blanket and would go over and under the drums which were steam heated to dry the paper.
The rollers at the end were called calendars and were used to polish the paper. The paper would then go onto a large shaft to form a reel. When the reel was full it was taken off the machine with an overhead crane while the machine started a new reel on a new shaft. The machine never stopped running. Then the reel would go to a winder to go over slitters and would be wound onto smaller-sized shafts to form rolls.
What's not seen are the Fourdrinier wire portion and the headbox. The material going into the headbox was called stock and was 90 percent water and 10 percent wood pulp. In the Fourdrinier section the stock empties onto the "wire" which is a fine mesh screen where water is drained and sucked from the stock as the wire moves. At the end of the wire the weak paper goes through the couch press and emerges 90 percent paper and 10 percent water. The paper goes onto the felt as it enters the dryer section.
I grew up in a papermaking village, Kimberly, Wis. My father worked at the paper mill for 30 years. While in college, I worked five summers at the mill during the 1980s. Yes, the Kimberly Mill was owned by Kimberly Clark from 1889-1976. The Kimberly Mill ran under several different owners until 2008. The Kimberly Mill made glossy coated paper used for printing magazines and catalogs.
Very interesting and very well done. These are the kind of hikes I like to take. Our country was once a great place to work and live. We were an industrial giant. Thank you sir for posting this. Awesome job 👍
I love exploring old railroad spurs and I've biked many a time on the O&E canal towpath trail so I just loved this video! Appreciate the dedication to seeking out lost history!
I live 10 minutes from Jaite. I love taking pictures there!
I first found out about the Jaite paper mill on a website called Forgotten Ohio. As luck would have it, i worked in the Twinsburg area for some time, so when I got off work i would head to the park and take a walk, passing by the old mill. To me, it was rather eerie on how quiet everything was.
A great insight into NE Ohio's industrial history - the paper plant, railroad and canal all key elements in the growth of the area in the 19th and 20th centuries. Thanks so much!
I grew up in Sagamore Hills and would often bike through this area in the mid-1970s. Wise guys at the Northfield-Macedonia (Nordonia) High School would go poking around to troll the watchman that was apparently on duty at the old plant. Also, back in the Seventies, the banks of the river were lined with junk cars nose-first in the water; presumably an anti-erosion measure.
Nice video . I graduated from Brecksville high school way back in the 70s. I never knew the story. I still travel through there but don’t live there anymore. I know those buildings well. Too bad more things from the mill aren’t there . Good story . Thanks
You related to Carolyn Joseph BBHHS '77?
I remember having a train set with little lights and railroad crossings at christmas time.We would turn the lights out and have a miniature town.That was good feelings then.
One of my favorite places in the valley
If facing the mill site on the towpath if you head to the left around the fenced in portion you can still find the spring bubbling up from the large intake pipe, then it’s a brushy hike to the mill side of the bridge.
Can follow the tracks on the right side as well but it dead ends because sagamore creek cut into the bank,
The property is wayyyy bigger then it seems and still full of hazards so be careful 😊
We passed Jaite many times on our way to visit relatives in Peninsula in the 1950s. I always wondered about that funny name. Now I know!
Definitely gotta check this out and go hiking as live nearby. Love the history and never new of the mill till now
I was able to explore the paper mill site about 10 years ago and have some amazing pictures of the old machinery inside. Walked across the bridge then. Was scary!
Great video. I previously lived in a housing development built on the site of the former Welcome Airport in Northfield Center Township. We spent a lot of time in the Cuyahoga Valley (my kids called Jaite Yellowtown). One day I and a couple of my kids went back to where the paper mill was and managed to get through the fence around the property. We got inside where the paper mills were still in place. We also looked around the receiving dock, warehouse, and water tower. It was an interesting piece of history.
We used to have a skate park inside the paper mill in the early 90’s 😂. We got known exploring everything in the valley that we were questioned in the arson of the paper mill. But we were in school at the time it happened.
The horseshoe arena was a conn job. The developer solicited cash investments from contractors who were providing estimates for renovations on the building. I worked for the roofing contractor that gave a bid for the roof. He was smart enough to smell a rat, he did not invest.
Yes, I heard about that from a local in the Cuyahoga Valley. Wasn't able to find any further sources during my research.
Well done. I appreciate the interviews and additional photos besides what you see in most documentaries (the area is often shown on Helltown Ohio videos). I love that buildings remain.
I was born and raised in Akron, Ohio and used to hear about Jaite but never investigated further. Thanks for the history lesson. A similar history of the historic canal running through Akron would be interesting (if you haven't already done so).
Very interesting. Love all the old industrial cites and abandoned railways and canals. And their stories. We have lots over here south of Pittsburgh. Cool vid. Thx
I used to work for the Park 30 years ago, as a janitor, and part of my responsibilities was to clean these buildings.
I've hiked the rail line into the old paper mill to check out the remaining fourdrinier paper machine. The bridge over the river was in very poor shape then, and that was ~14 years ago.
Great and interesting video. As a kid I used to wonder what that building was. I grew up a couple of miles away and our school bus used drive by here everyday in the early 80s. There were a couple of houses nearby on Riverview that families still lived in before they moved out and the park took over. I remember the house at Riverview and Snowville was a control burn by the fire department to practice with.
If you live in the area I'd highly suggest you download the Cuyahoga Valley National Parks map and visit the area as it has a lot to offer if you enjoy being outdoors and some rich history throughout.
Very well done. Knew of some of the history. You brought it all to life.
Small Town America was an amazing place to bad so much has changed
Amazing video, I love these abandoned railroad histories 🤩👌🏼
Thanks! This video is right up there with the Hulett unloaders episode you posted! I thoroughly enjoyed it and hope you continue making more like this. And now I know if we're in Ohio there's a place to stop and see - in addition to Whiskey Island in Cleveland where the remnants of the Hulett unloaders were dumped. The USS Cod is near there too. Thanks again!
Thanks so much! I unfortunately have some bad news for you about the Huletts. The Port of Cleveland awarded a bid to a company that will commence scrapping their remnants in June of this year.
@RailroadStreet well, bummer! But from what I could see of them in Google maps, they weren't recognizable anyway. Thanks for the update.
@@RailroadStreet As a Clevelander, I remember seeing the Huletts in action. They were something to watch. I've always said, that they should have been assembled on the pier where the Mather museum in just the way the Mather was unloaded.
I remember it all before it became a park. I live in Virginia now, and it’s been a few years since I have been there. I love the history of that area.
Another Ohioan moved on to greener pastures.
Thank you for the video & history tour. In addition it is something to contemplate & see how the natural environment eventually takes back the space when left to its own devices.
I used to go hiking around here all the time when I lived in Kent and Brooklyn
Nice video - Thanks for uploading!
You do such a good job! Love watching your videos
great video
Thanks! My old hometown!
12:37 Always enjoy the Les Stroud Survivorman shot.
Thanks for this! Very impressive.
Great video,Thank You.🤩👍👍
Thanks for sharing this...nicely doen.
Thanks for the great video
8:00 That's an interesting scene all on it's own. It looks like a scene out of the movie "Used Cars" with Kurt Russel. "Look out Marshall Lucky, it's high prices !"
I actually hauled truck loads of rolls of paper from there between 1981 to 83 Nice people I believe I took some loads 2 outside Nashville Tennessee and then a few loads up to New York For triple c trucking company Good memories thanks for the video
We went in there all the time as kids around 2000 to 2006. Very dilipadated and dangerous but very cool. I still have a few of signs from the inside.
You remind me of the Part Time Explorer. Thanks for the nice video.
That was interesting finding out that mostly Polish immigrants worked at the mill, being part-Polish myself.
Awesome thanks 👍
I might write a novel taking place in Sagamore Hills Township, one of the locations will be the Jaite Mill.
Railroad rails are marked with the manufacturer name and dated manufactured, did you find that on any of the rails? It would be near the ends of the rails before the holes for the connecting plates.
Yes, but note that rails and tie plates can sit in storage for several world wars before they are used. I learned that on the Hocking Valley Scenic Railroad in Nelsonville, Ohio, where the brand new tie plates were dated 1928.
@@markkinsler4333 Thank you for pointing that out. In today’s world of JIT, I forgot that companies in the past would produce products to put into warehouses / storage to be sold at a later date.
Interesting history, did you check the year on the side of the rails?
Hey man, if you ever need help exploring or making videos, let me know! I live in Ashtabula and love learning the history of our area.
Really nice Vid , I wanna go!
Theres a similar abandoned bridge over the Cuyahoga just past the confluence of the west creek in Independence.
Interesting !
Be interesting if they build a hemp paper and products on this RAILWAYS and site ........😊😊😊😊😊
Walk it!
That bridge is more structurally sound than half of anything built today 😁
Wow in my home county and didn't even know about it
Pretty amazing they took on another 30 workers during the depression.
At 3:00, the name of that type of well (artesian) is pronounced AR-teee-sian rather than art-ih-son. Good video and history lesson. Thanks for making it.
I caught that as well as all through the video he was mispronouncing Cuyahoga, so I figured the voice is a A.I. generated script? Yet later in video as the voice over was being played he did pronounce it Cuyahoga river right....who knows??? @13:15
@@repaid1317 Many wrong pronunciations with just one correct, at least to my ears. But then we are from the other end of the Cleveland Road, AKA US 21 now Ohio 821.
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It is really really sad for America,if you look at all the old abandoned mills and towns at one time people went to church or had town meetings about the Mill and its toxic waste.EVERY house had an out house then somebody came up with the idea of the cesspool some were round ring wells others were holes dug and lined with blocks that had holes to allow the water to trikel through the soil.The domestic water for the house and hygeine was a pipe driven into the ground till you hit first water.That distance from the cesspool to the domestic water supply had to be within certain distance for the house owners safety.These people that came to America brought with them a lot of Euoropean ideas.They could establish a little home within a certain distance from towns for childrens schools and supplies.The towns usually consisted of a drug store, shoe store delicatessen or meat store ,we had a movie theator in our town and barbra shop also private daries that deliverd milk and butter and sometimes mom would by eggs.These were the little towns of America then the big shit malls came to light and precious farm land was sold off for developement ,convenience stores did away with milk delivery and small town services and private daries.Sorta like MAYBERRY RFD?
It's very sad that arson took such a wonderful historical site from us. 💙 💙 💙
now i have to go back and find the bridge. there is the small bridge that you would've walked past to get to the gate for the mill. looked like it was moved and placed there for some reason. i hope they try to save the old train bridge.
8:03 what is this photo of
I remember when Columbus Ohio had so many factories. Federal glass, Buckeye steel, general motors etc etc. they have been gone for sometime now My hometown has grown in some ways but I miss the good old days. 😢I haven’t lived in Columbus since 2013 but i have so many memories so I love watching this type of stuff.
Your voice and style reminds me of Joe Pera
I was thinking, I hope he doesn't try and cross that bridge. It would be better to just swim across the river and save himself the trouble of falling. I'm glad it turns out that there's another way across.
Paper mills all over the US are closing due to a combination of new environmental regulations and cheap foreign imports. They are joining all of the other industries that have been forced offshore since 1970.
Cheap foreign imports really environmental regulations. That's new to me. I always thought it was because people don't buy the paper anymore. That's printed on because of the internet. That might explain why newspapers are going out of business magazines are going out of business because people no longer buy them
@@plymouth-hl20ton37 Google "paper mills closing" and read.
@@plymouth-hl20ton37 Google "why are paper mills closing".
@@plymouth-hl20ton37 I've had two replies deleted this morning, so I am being prevented from helping you.
New environmental regulations? This area was the site of one of the most toxic waste dumps on the planet. It was designated a super fund site and cleanup only finished very recently. Good riddance.
15:31 looks like it's natural habitat is already well into making that happen as it is.
And the fools making the decisions give all these skills to the world. Extremely interesting.
Around 11:10, there's a silver passenger car powering itself by. What the heck?
That's a Budd car. There's lots of info around the Internet about those, but mainly they'd handle those small routes that didn't warrant a proper passenger train. I saw them when I was 8 or so (1962?) running along the east (Groton) side of the Thames River in SE Connecticut heading (I assume) to Norwich and maybe beyond.
That bridge is probably intact enough to make a walking bridge
Do you know they have a toilet paper factory in WI?
Cuyahoga valley owns the rail road
I think I camped out there in the boyscout days
So sad to see so much industry gone. Now its almost all made in China. We are building their economy and ours is going away.
Watch out for container ships
Interesting i have heard of joot mills . Probably was mispronounced
This does the Area and town of Cuyahoga great justice. The place is beautiful. Standing on the locks of the Canal, looking across a valley toward the hills and valleys, and shopping the tiny old buildings now novelty and candy stores for Tourists. I wish it was a shorter drive from Dead Town Dayton, Yo Yohio. Our trains are running backwards and the town continues to run down / POLITICS. Carillon Park here in Dayton, throw in the Air Farce Museum, and that's about it around here for enlightenment and tourism. OFF ROADERS our streets are like the old Cuyahoga trail
I've got some pictures of us "exploring" the inside of the mill in the late 80s (we were in high school). One of the pictures has us standing around a huge roll of paper stamped with "last roll made at Jaite". There's a date stamp on there, you can read "12/14/" but my buddy's head is obscuring the year so can't make that part out.