The Oldest Shipwreck in the World
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- Опубліковано 19 лис 2019
- Marine archeologists accidentally found the world’s oldest known intact shipwreck, and their work scanning, diving, and exploring has given us some very cool insights into more than just our history sailing the oceans.
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Hey, you guys spelled "Herotodus" wrong it is actually Herodotus.
i love sci show, and deep sea shipwrecks and really interesting and the science also, but, while you've got no issues explaining in depth pieces into black holes (etc) really well, i feel the section when you moved off the science and engineering into the historical context of the shipwreck, you veered into a grade-school explanation of level. that trade was pretty pervasive in 400BCE is not the amazing insight into ancient greece and the near east that it seems (at the end of the peloponnesian war, and athens barely surviving total destruction (if corinth and thebes had had their way, the whole thing would have been burnt and destroyed), and an ever-present and rich persian empire in the near east, full of natural wealth and power.
What does science say about removing loose skin after weight loss?
The title on this video is wrong! This is not even close to the oldest shipwreck. The Dokos Shipwreck in Greece dates between 2700 and 2200 BC and is much older, and perhaps the more famous and more important wreck is the Uluburun shipwreck
in Turkey from 14th Century BC during the Bronze age which contained an absolutely incredibly vast cargo that has taught us more about Bronze Age trade and commerce than perhaps any other archaeological site. This is a huge oversight and embarrassment to Sci-show given their vast resources. Unacceptable in my opinion.
The only place in the world where you can found scriptures older than Condex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus is the botton of Black Sea.
We must dream of an organization that recovered these ships for lost books and lost history.
I live in Brazil.
Oh no, please please don’t listen to these horrible comments. Your style is on point, you speak clearly & at a speed that’s more accessible, and you’re a beautiful woman. I loved this video, I’ve always been obsessed with shipwrecks and this video is *chefs kiss* keep on going
I scrolled for like 5 minutes looking for a single negative comment. You wasted my time. Lol
@@kylebrown7968 It's this comment itself that is negative. He just hid it well.
"Tiny crustaceans called Gribbles"
Damn it Dale!
"Name's Hank Hill, I sell ROV and ROV accessories."
*POCKET* *SAND* !!!
Dang
Dang ol boom man
The trouble with Gribbles...
Am the only one feeling a bit disappointed that she said they took wood samples to find out the tree species and age, but then didn't name the species?
Anastasija Habarova it may not be the most time effective, but I would bet money that the journal article about the wreck mentions what species the wood is from. It should be in the sources listed in the description.
They were talking about dating at that point. The species may not help the layman place the age, or maybe it wasn't interesting. As in: it was the wood known to be used by the Greeks for shipbuilding.
Hiya! I'm the scriptwriter and the scientists said some looked like pine (most likely Scots or Black pine) and some looked like beech.
I would have voted, mr. James, on using more visuals in this video but luckily your script was so good that it managed to sustain interest even without more visuals excellent Bravo!
Or the fact that one ship could have a verity of woods used if they only took one or two samples id be disappointed
Lovely these old artifacts still exist
Pugabe will annex it cos it's made of birch
Ahh the great Greek philosopher Playdoh.
lol😆
“Not Fun to play with but sure is good to eat “
🤷♂️ that's how I say it
I think that's the best description I've heard of how Carbon dating works, thanks for that.
I always thought carbon14 degraded into carbon12. Like the nitrogen lost a proton to become carbon with an extra neutron which then lost it when it degraded. TIL
Carbon dating isn't real. It was made up by the socialists so that they could put random dates on things.
This comment deserves a heart from Sci-Show.
@@theinternetstolemysoulbuti2740 Explain to me why carbon dating doesn't work when applied to its intended applications, then explain why those problems apply to radiometric dating on the whole.
@@YCCCm7 unfortunately absurd claims like this tend to turn people off to the inconsistencies of carbon dating (among other things). In reality, carbon dating can be very speculative and relies on other references to derive age from. Also, accuracy diminishes with time. 400(+/-?) bce may be close but that's probably narrowed based on the boat's design and historical records.
Can imagine how excited they were when they suddenly found an unexpected shipwreck. Had to have been such an amazing day for them.
Am i the only one that wants to know the species of the wood
"Figure out how good they were on open seas."
Judging by the fact it's a wreck, I'd say not so well.
LMAO !
Actually, since this one and no others like it were found, the opposite it might be true
What about user error?
But I was joking too.
well, I wasn't
Ah, the Trouble with Gribbles!
This is by far the funniest thing I’ve heard all day. Well done. 🖖🏻
But those are tribbles?
@@onytay75 The Griddle is the Jurassic Tribble. Only it's cannibalistic Tendencies kept the population down.
love how knowing the exact length of the ship tells them approximately how long it is.
huh ?
@J-Dawg not always... but in this case it sounds stupid making me look smart by comparison.
One of my best friends is working in preservation photogrammetry and it’s SO FRIGGIN COOL! As an anthropology major who grew up sailing, I am happy to know that Maritime Anthropology is a potential career path! ⚓️
“The oldest shipwreck in the world” I heard very little about the actual ship!
There's not much to say. There's a wrecked ship, this is what they were able to extract from it while respecting it
Ch4alik, opinions vary I guess...
@RandallRichmond I agree with you, She talked alot about what ships like this one tell us about old shipbuilding or how they were steered. But she never discussed what it told us about shipbuilding or how it was manoeuvred. She also talked about its use for trade yet she didn't even touch on what it was possibly carrying. A little vague on the actual topic but educational on general shipwrecks I suppose.
It’s not the oldest shipwreck in the world. Look up Dokos shipwreck, some 2000 years older than this.
@@BoxStudioExecutive that's not intact though which is the whole point of this video, as this ship in the black sea is almost fully structurally intact. The actual ship at the Dokus site is long gone.
Howsabout a thought for the Greek mofos that went down with her.
how long does someone need to be dead before its not meaningful to everyone. considering about 151,600 people die everyday globally, are ya given those mofos some time. Would anything happen if we had to give everyone who dies... a moment of thought.
@randall2020 Jesus's death was inconsequential. It is what he represented that is what people care about. Oh.... and even more people care about their Instagram posts than care about Jesus. People caring does not make something worth caring about.
@randall2020 Removing everything from religion, He did say tons of things that are actually useful today and has since been the basis of many laws.
Who said these people went down with the ship? Maybe they were rescued
@@uprightape100 who said *you* think before you type? It could have been a ship of any kind, slaves or not, could have been part of a fleet and there could have been nearby ships to have helped. Also slave owners would have rathered their fleets of slaves not drown.
so what did it transport? thats the most interesting detail for such an old ship!
My purchases from eBay, probably 😒
Tami Otani lol
Slavesssss
Olive oil
Maybe wimpy and sweet pea as well
I'd love to see a full sized 3D print of this ship made from the scanned model.
Mat Broomfield my university’s marine archeology department have a 3D print of a very similar one that they found.
@@libbyevans1186 Awesome Libby. What size?
Mat Broomfield it’s only a small one, definitely not the scale 😂 about a foot length
@@libbyevans1186 Wonder if they'd let you borrow it to play with in the bath? :-)
I am ready to buy a scale 3D print of it, say about a foot long. If I can afford it, Maybe it could help pay for more dives on it. Be nice nice to be able to download it.
quite the coincidence the guy who discovered this is giving a lecture about it at my college tomorrow
Please tape it and upload it
What college? I'm in the Cali UC system🔥😎👽
Tell him to bring a gribble
Only one, please. If they mate, we're all doomed!
Jealous just saying
“Vehicle” lol stopped me in my tracks why so much emphasis on the H
@Scumfuck McDoucheface
We do it in NC as well. Very common here, myself included when I'm not talking fast. Also common for me.
I don't but my wife and some others do. I notice it too.
Cuz these guys are from montanner or something
It's a V-Hickle
watch crime shows. wait for a K-9 unit in Tennessee. then you'll be stopped in your tracks.
(no offense, people there. I really love those daawgs)
Spelling Herodotus wrong was a rookie mistake, especially if you paste a picture of a bust in the video for reference that has the name on it.
Wait...theres actually an animal called a gribble?😂
@Doodle Noodle Gribble is the surname of a particularly humorous character on the animated comedy show "King of the Hill". It's also just a humorous-sounding name for English speakers, akin to Heffalumps and Woozles. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to google those. I would think someone whose moniker is "Doodle Noodle" would appreciate it at face value :P
You can also address them as
" Rusty shackleford "
😕😊😁
So that's the trouble with Gribble's
So that's the trouble with Gribble's
It's not a gribble. It's a gwibble :3
"I'm too salty for your sea life too salty for your sea life" Black Sea Fred
I wanted to know more about the boat.
Anybody else wondering about possible human remains down there, and what they could tell us if they escaped decay as much as the ship did?
At those depths corpses dissolve. Pretty quickly too, in about a century or so even the bones would have dissolved. All that might possibly remain would be whatever metal they were wearing at the time.
@@Thumbsupurbum Even in an anoxic environment? I suppose we weren't told the pH at those depths
@@TaylorSmith-fz7qn I believe so. It has more to do with the pressure, rather than the oxygen. This is supposedly what happened to the bodies form the Titanic anyway. Titanic is almost twice as deep as this one, but far younger.
@@Thumbsupurbum It seems to me that because all of the wood is preserved in the anoxic deep of the black sea, then bone should be too, and that by contrast, the oxygenated (?) waters of the north atlantic accounts for missing skeletons at the location of the titanic for example. If a chemist reads this conversation then please do chime in. I might be misremembering something else entirely, to be honest. I can't be sure.
Then on the other hand, bone is calcium carbonate isn't it? So, acidity should dissolve bone especially given enough time, but I have no idea how pressure or oxygen levels affect that reaction.
So, again, chemists?
Pressure+Salt+Water = Bad for people parts.
A lot of great info in this video. Thank you!
400 BC? The ship came from a very interesting time, it would be cool if they found what it was carrying and stuff.
Thank you for saying BC. A show about history shouldn't use some silly BCE political correctness crap.
@@cgaccount3669 Lindybeige did a video on BC/AD, in which he proposed thinking of them as "Backwards Counting" and "Ascending Dates." Given that there needs to be a set zero-year somewhere for historical convenience, his notion of interpreting it non-partisan and utilitarian makes a lot of sense, and saves a ton of stupid apologetics. CE and BCE are bad replacements, because they are too much awkwardly the same. It's just 1 missed letter or a hiccup waiting to cause confusion.
channels thank I'll check it out. I love him! We have so many days, months, dates and planets etc I find it annoying that some think that just because it's based on jesus we should change it. July is based on a mass murderer but they have no problem with that name. Or roman gods for names
Be nice if you could show pictures from the actual expedition
My guess is there are copyright issues or she would have shown and given more actual details about what they found.
Be nice if you could understand copyright
It would be really cool to explore the depths of seas and find lost treasures like this that exists.
THIS IS SO COOL!! My inner Greek history nerd is v happy!
They must not have made an offering to Poseidon.
Wow you are so quirky
Do you mean you're a Greek geek?
@@lucretius8050 I'm so mad that I didn't think of that pun first!!!
WenzelSays NERD
I've heard many cannibals agree that people that have been in multiple shipwrecks taste better.
You could say they prefer seasoned survivors.
Sebastian Elytron
Clever wordplay
Word has it a Pepsi plane went down near a cannibal village. When explorers searched the site, they found no traces of survivors, nor the dead for that matter. They risked their lives by going to the nearby village to inquire about the plane's crew. They were told they were eaten. Every part, every piece, everything. When asked if even their... "Things" were eaten, they got an adamant "NO!" The team asked why and were told Things go better with Coke.
Maybe just a bit salty.
Your dad jokes are absolutely groan worthy. I think you’re ready 😂
Oh damn those Gribbles were super cute xD
8:27 Herodotus. Typo. Not "Herotodus."
I came to learn about the oldest known shipwreck. The entire video only hinted at what I wanted to learn.
You are a wreck-tease, SciShow!
This is click bait. The video talked about the actual wreck about 20% at best. I hold SciShow to a high standard. Although all of the info is worthwhile and interesting, the presentation makes the whole video disingeneous. It's more of a tour through modern technology of marine archaeology with only a few mentions of the actual wreck itself.
SciShow just redefined the "nice boat" meme.
the featured shipwreck is not the oldest one found. Some Bronze Age wrecks have been found, near Rhodes for instance, among other places.
Oldest “intact” shipwreck
Just noticed Olivia's voice goes croaky at the end of EVERY sentence. Can't unnotice it now :')
Isn't there a scishow video on voice fry?
Damnit
just made me dislike her narrations even more lol rip
@@recer_ did NOT know there was a term for that. Thanks?
I love the Black sea :) I often go to it, every single year in fact. It helps that I'm from Bulgaria i guess. It's right next to me lol, so hearing cool things about it always makes me more and more curious. The last thing i heard (before this video) was how they found buildings from before the sea was a sea.
P.s. As a bonus, I get to see a lot of roman empire ruins on the way to the sea :P
I don’t care who you are, but will you adopt/marry/hire me? 🙋🏼♀️😂
My grandfather was a Navy engineer that worked on the mark one Diving unit I feel like it was the grandfather to the modern rov
i don't think that those onboard thought that the sinking of thier ship was "Very Convieniant" for them LOL
I don’t know if I’m late but this is the first one I’ve seen with Olivia since the pregnancy. I’m happy that she is back and is looking healthy. I hope everything went well with the pregnancy but if not, I’m just glad you’re still here ☺️☺️
omgosh ????? she has a child?????? 😭😭😭😭since when
Are you familiar with the Kyrenia ship? it was discovered in 1965, and was then brought to the surface, preserved and rebuilt. There have been two sail-able replicas built since then, one is currently in a museum and the other is actually currently seafaring. The original boat is in the Kyrenia Castle in Cyprus, which is unfortunately on the Turkish Occupied side, and is difficult to view as far as I know.
www.kyrenia-collection.org/resources/PDF_Files/NGS-Research-Report-1972-5-vol-13.pdf
Just a little rectification, it's not Herotodus, it's Herodotus 😄
"Photogrammetry" (like kilogram), not "photogrommetry". No grommets/Gromits are involved in the photo, Wallace.
Even "Herotodus" (the ancient Gkeer hitsorian) would have known that.
Gkeer
Ask that guy who was once named Herodotus before the rot set in.
Herodotus!!! Not Herotodus!
@@mariaannakarga1564 The tetlers - mixing tmeh up teyh are 😉 Eduard only - more or less intentionally - forgot to mark the initial comment for being sarcastic. I'm sure the acnient Gkeer hitsorian would argee 😘
My 1st cousin once removed was a lead diver on the team that found and salvaged the Atocha shipwreck. It’s the largest sunken treasure recovery in history.
The largest that was made public maybe.
That is amazingly well preserved
Barely any of the video is about the boat and almost all of it is about the various practices for studying shipwrecks that I already knew about.
My problem with older shipwrecks is that there usually aren't any scannable tech fragments inside... those are mostly all in the newer wrecks, which (gosh darnit) always seem to be invested with aggressive predators or warpers :/
or giant moray eels. :)
Fantastic episode. One might even say it really floats my boat 😏
Thank you for this very informative video! It's like reading a fascinating paper, just better, because you get everything explained in an easy understandable way! Really liked it =)
Love yall. This is an amazing find. 400 bce? That's like a long time ago and stuff.
Ok, 400 BCE, but you did not mention what wood type was it made of. It would be very interesting and especially important to know the wood type. It is one of the blocks needed to better construct a more complete scenario.
she looks like she came out of the big bang theory
When I first saw her, I thought Amy's sister!
I'd love to see a video about photogrammetry. My uncle was an engineering professor at U. Cal Berkeley for many years, and wrote one of the standard text books about it. He used to tell me about some of the extraordinary things he could determine just by examining photographs. In the early 1960's, at age 7 or 8, I was going to be a great scientist. I asked him why he wasn't a PhD, and he told me one of the most valuable things I ever learned. He said I should never evaluate a man by the initials after his name. He said he knew PhD's who couldn't find there way out of a barrel. He didn't bother explaining that engineers (in those days) didn't usually get PhD's. It would have ruined the entire conversation.
Carbon 14 forms in the upper atmosphere when cosmic rays, beta particles = high speed electrons, hit nitrogen 14 atoms. It stops when the carbon is absorbed by plants, so is a constant value from when the plants lived and died.
Nice video. Herodotus is tisappoinded though.
The “EXACT SIZE & SHAPE”... “about 23 meters long”
🤔
"gribble".... man that really adds to Dale Gribbles character in King of The Hill.
@3:12 I had this sudden urge to clap my hands together & exclaim: "Herka-leeze, herka-leeze, herka-leeze!"
😂😂😂😂...I'll see myself out.
Awww ship. This is gonna be good 😊
where did I hear about this new paper on Carbon 14 behaving differently then we previously thought and the method needed updates?
Can't wait for them to discover that the name of the vessel is the ancient Greek version of "Boaty McBoatface".
Love your videos! Thank you
Man that's so cool !
A spooky underwater shipwreck? You got to be kidding me. Lol
As a former scuba diver, I can say it's the breathing gases and the cold that affects divers the most on deep dives. Plus by the time you get down you have limited time at depth. Someone needs to design and/or build a real sightseeing submarine that can carry at least twenty people with large windows on the sides and the bottom, with single seating on each side or no one is blocking another's viewing. Cameron or Disney listening?
Gribble would be a cute pokemon name
The diving part on the PSVR game VR worlds reminds me of this
I remember reading about this a while back. Very cool stuff, so many things left undiscovered all over the world. I want to know whats under the dunes of the Sahara.
whales (no really)
Love this content, keep up the fantastic work!!!
There is something so attractive about her voice and I have no idea why
bummer - no images of the ancient wreck! Just images of SS Thistlegorm, a modern era wreck. It threw me off when I spotted the propeller shaft.
The cream, the beige, the off white, the ivory or the bone?
Obviously Richie Benauds’ grand daughter 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I want SciShow Humanities so badly
Hey, you guys spelled "Herotodus" wrong it is actually Herodotus.
Honey Badger 8:35
Yup. I was about to post the same thing...
@@perryfox6060 YEP! Both in audio and in writing over statue 8:25 - 8:37. Made even funnier because the writing ON the statue is ΗΡΟΔΟΤΟC.
Thanks guys, this was fascinating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gribbles :3 The cutest form of woodrot
Fuckin' Gribbles, always eating my goddamn shipwrecks.
Eeeey, a friend of my sister is a female diver archaeologist part of the team that discovered it. They keep finding stuff every year and she tells us about it when she visits. Kudos to her and all diggers out there.
id104335409 genuine question, what was the purpose of putting the word “female” in there?
@@jawsnicol I will answer you. It looks like in my country there is only one female diver. So that is kind of significant - it is a rare profession. And I felt I couldn't leave that fact behind as we are kind of proud for her. Especially when in the English language if you say "friend" it doesn't specify if it is a girl friend, boy friend or girlfriend, boyfriend. It just leaves for interpretation.
No feminism involved.
id104335409 feminism is the equality of men and women. what does that mean “no feminism involved”? and okay that makes more sense i guess, but you did use pronouns, “she” when referring to her, that’s why i asked what was the point of putting “female” in the sentence. thank you for replying :)
"Only" 300 meters? That is pretty damn deep.
Yeah, playdoh was a good guy. Always enjoyed having a few beers with him.
I thought the uluburun shipwreck was the oldest one doscovered.
She was talking about "almost intact", which is something you can't say about many wrecks for that matter.
You guys probably mean oldest intact shipwreck :) because the Uluburun wreck is ca. 1000 years older...
I was gonna say...
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uluburun_shipwreck
Na Da It's not what the title says, though :)
I saw several hole punch clouds Sunday I need to start taking pics
GRIBBLES!
Someone should make a movie on this.
It's called Titanic.
@@cgaccount3669 Really?!
@@REHANKHAN-en5zn yep. It's in all the papers. Lol
@@cgaccount3669 I had no idea!
Queen of “Just happened to” lol
ROVs come in all sizes, with some as big as a truck.
Trucks come in all sizes too, from the Welcom MCX-S to the Belaz 75710. So....
......allowing them to measure the EXACT size, that's how they know the ship is ABOUT 23 meters, long. Huh?
It's not in one piece, so 'about' makes sense.
75 FT of what?
8:19 ah see according to AC Odyssey, you steer by standing on the boat, and yelling at your crew to turn. However you have to stand in that very specific spot on the boat, or the boat won't go. Also you need to use your whole arm to make broad gestures, or the boat won't understand you. Simple
what are the most ancient well preserved ships that can be found in a museum?
lmgtfy.com/?q=what+are+the+most+ancient+well+preserved+ships+that+can+be+found+in+a+museum%3F&s=l
I believe there's a cool one in Egypt. That I'd guess is much older than 400 BC. But it was buried, not sunk. There's also a cool Roman one the Germans mostly destroyed on purpose from Caligula in 12 AD.
What about human remains? Do they look for them? How do they treat them? What research do they do on/with them?
Due to a variety of factors including being eaten, decaying faster, and floating away from the wreck human remains are almost never found.
What you will find (not uncommonly) though are haunting pairs of shoes/boots left behind in positions that tell you a body that no longer exists once rested in that spot.
I don't know what rules may exist but from what I've seen of the archeologists that study wrecks, the sites themselves are treated with the respect due to an archeological site that is also a mass grave (probably in no small part because of those little reminders and the big signs that they use to piece together an idea of what happened when the ship went down.
DynamicWorlds
What about the bones?
@@Dwight_those go away too, and often faster than tanned leather, perhaps surprisingly.
Then again, there are organisms in the depths that specialize in consuming whale skelitons as their primary/only foodstuff so deap sea ecology is weird from a terrestrial point of view where the bones basically always outlast any leather and we're still learning about it.
For more see ua-cam.com/video/-ZdP216pq7c/v-deo.html
I didn't know the black sea was meromictic! But, did you know that two layers doesn't necessarily equal an anoxic environment? Scientists are currently studying Crawford lake in Canada due to its oxygenated lower half.
I'm a huge nerd when it comes to ancient Egypt, does anyone know if there's a course about it on Brilliant?
Pretty amazing work, but what if you want to look inside the ship?
1:21 Everyone: "Eww... Gross... Ugh!"
Me: "But, are they edible?"
Oh my god I want a gribble plush!
I came here for the ship wreak, and stayed for the cow ring....
The cow ring was very distracting
The Grievance with Gribbles
wait say that again "vihhhhhhacol"? interesting