Thanks for watching. If you want links or more details on anything in this video look here. www.hawaiidetailing.com/robotic-lawn-mower. Here are the links to the machines LUBA 2 amzn.to/3VdMbzM LUBA 1 amzn.to/3VhEPeF YUKA us.mammotion.com/products/yuka-2000-3d-vision-robot-lawn-sweeping-mower?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw34qzBhBmEiwAOUQcF27fxMFgBwrI_w6BcEh5CN6YrW3Th6alya4Pv-31gJD5Ur7oLWnWURoCu3UQAvD_BwE&ref=ute01rvk& Luba 1&2 use ultra sonic sensors for obstacle avoidance not infrared.
@@dol3980 Based on the multitude of never ending software issues since major firmware and app revamp when they introduced Luba 2, I unfortunately have to agree with this. I was sooooo close to biting and then kept seeing the issues both main Facebook Luba groups.
This is awesome! More time for detailing! Walking through the trails and seeing the sights! Awesome as always! I hope you and your family are doing well!
Didn't waste time and got this thing. Luba 2 AWD 1000H should be delivered within a week or so. Thanks for the video. Wouldn't have bought it without you!
I have purchased a Luba 5000 AWD and can honestly say it is absolute junk. It works for a few months and then the latest revs confuse it as it cannot intelligently decipher new satellite information and goes onto a positioning mode and does not leave the charging station after multiple hours of set-up. Luba has no telephone support (UNBELIEVABLE), and their chat line is on hold for 4 hours as this inferior product has so many dissatisfied customers with inoperable units. The chat service is the worst in the robotic business and they have no engineering capabilities. I got better service from 99% of my smart homme devices then this over-hyped neophyte company with no history or pedigree in the mower business. I am an engineer and can do many fixes but after 10 screenshots and 5 app feedbacks ..nada/ziltch from Mammotion. Hey forget about the BS of 2 year warranty as you will probably never get a RMA from them as they are truly a a non-starter for claiming to be a bona-fida mower firm. You will have a boat anchor in a short time. Believe me I learned the hard way, avoid Luba like a plague.
The battery is in fact the same in all of the Luba 2 models with the exception of the lowest model having a different battery. The top 3 Luba 2 models are strictly software restrictions for the amount of mowable area you can assign
I like your garage Idea. Looking into getting the LUBA 2. I'd probably try to use the leftover room in the compartment and make it fully solar with a battery. I'd also make some sort of ventilation with a couple fans or something. Thanks for the idea!
Try calling Luba my friend and then get back to us when it cannot position to the latest elliptical satellite LEO orbits. Luba is JUNK. You will soon own a door stop not a robotic lawnmower.
I 100% believe that you live in Hawaii 😄 Seriously though, thanks for the great review, I'm considering a Yuka for my quite flat lawn. I hope you will upload a review of the bagging soon!
I was hoping the benefit of the Luba2 camera was to allow close mapping to edges like fences and walls where signal can be low or bad, but allowing it to still get really close to those things without touching, even if the signal is throwing it off and otherwise would make it bump into walls or fences, be great to see this actually tested ? Would you mind trying it out? Eg map super close to a fence or wall in a bad signal area (1inch max away), then see if the camera avoids contact on the nearest border cut, the camera is supposed to prevent contact when the satellite resolution drops in a bad signal area.
I have a Luba 2 and the software for the camera has a lot of room to improve is that tnice way to put it. But right now, it does not help prevent collision with my house when I map too close. I discovered the same thing this video did, map it with a nice 6" margin makes it run smoother. It still hits the walls though from time to time. But I didn't map perfectly. But the point is the camera is not helping see the wall and avoid it.
@@RobotMowerTricks ok thanks for the update, makes the Luba 2 pointless as an upgrade for now, as I don’t have stopping issues only accuracy issues around metal fences, meaning I’ve had to keep some distance away already.
Has a sim card with real time tracking. Also an alert when it leaves the property. I also have cameras in my yard and nothing better to do but run out there if some idiot wants to give play games. hahahaha.
@@HawaiiDetailing Don't know about trees but the Luba2 gets a poor positioning signal in the front of my yard, so it doesn't finish cutting. My RTK/GPS is mounted to a rail on the back of my house on the 2nd floor where a deck will eventually go. It stops cutting so I return it to an area that has line of sight of the RTK. Approximately 10 min later, it's working again. 30 min later, it's sending poor positioning errors again. 45-60min requires charging so I spend all day trying to have a 2k+ robot cut my yard. Sending it back for the Navimow i105n. I'm reading I'll have similar RTK/GPS issues. I'll update you after 5/7.
@@HawaiiDetailing I returned the Navimow. It can't get out of its own way, meaning it gets stuck in the slightest of ruts from the separation of sheets of sod and can't climb the slightest of hills either so it had to go. I'll set up the new Luba 2 this week but placing it 15 feet from the house because I installed a 22x15 concrete pad. After using the Luba 2, then returned it for the Navimow, I understand the need for 4 wheel power and an app that allows you to view what the mower sees, change the cutting hight and the app let's you change cutting direction, along with restarting from a percentage of the job, any percentage of the job. Not only does the Navimow fail in all of that, the Luba 2 allows you to manually mow using the Bluetooth connection so you don't need an edger unless you want to really get to the edges of your house. Luba 2 is worth the money.
I've had a Luba 1 since they first came out. I mow four separate zones. One is 100' x 200'. I mostly use hybrid sonic / bumper obstacle avoidance. I considered a Luba 2 but can't see any reason to spend the money when what I have does the job. I also have some decently heavy tree cover, and rough terrain. I was lazy and mounted the RTD on its supplied pole for easy access. No real problems except for the initial set-up. My iteration of the manual was really terrible but I've heard it has been improved.
If you purchase the Luba 5000 and let’s say move property in a few years and require a Luba 10,000 surely you can pay for the software upgrade as the hardware is identical? If not this would be great.
Kind sir I am planning for a garage and would love to know the dimensions from the front of YUKA to the back of the charging station while connected. I asked mammotion and they told me 648mm which did not answer the question of the two things connected. I know its 25.5'. TIA ps my guess is around 31" but dunno.
I am doing another video soon and will cover this topic. The YUKA adjusts its cutting bed height with a physical adjustment knob on top of the machine. LUBA 1&2 its via the app and could be done with programing zones accordingly although I have not tried it yet. I just did a first cut with the new production model YUKA and it has fantastic cut quality with its floating cutting head. If you like your yard looking like a golf course fairway you will be happy with it.
Great comparison, most useful one I've seen yet. I have one question, my new (quite flat) yard contains different quite narrow paths of grass (like just under 1 meter /3 feet wide). do you think the mapping an mowing of these paths will be ok with Yuka?
Yes it should. Without seeing the yard that’s a tough claim for me to make. Plan to leave conservative margins along the edges and it runs flawlessly for me.
@@HawaiiDetailing I'm planning on integrating it to my Home Assistant system and have it trigger a small gate to open in my fence when it approaches. This will help keep my wiener dogs from escaping. Keep up the good work.
Great video! I have the Luba 1000 and works well, but it is definitely not suited for my yard as I have connectivity issues with many high trees. My question, how did the Yuka handle your slope/hill? I have a hill that is about a 40-50% grade that the Luba handles easily. I think the Yuka is what I need, but only if it can handle the hill. Thanks!
@@Aurelian57 did you get the Yuka in the end? How does it do on the hill for you, I have a similar hill in my mowing area and looking for feedback before I pull the trigger on the Yuka 2000
@@MrLezlaI did not get the Yuka. My Luba 1000 does my hill perfectly (25-30 degrees), but still connectivity issues. There are a good amount of Yuka reviews that state the Yuka has a sensor to detect when it’s over 24 degrees, so I opted out of the Yuka. I backed the Airseekers Tron instead.
The beat for the obstacle avoidance portion of the video is thumping! I have very good computer speakers and it was rattling the house lol. Think I'm getting the Luba 2. Wonder how it will do in the fall with my 3 maple trees. 🤔 need to find a fall review on one.
Great video. I have a couple of questions. First, do these require Wi-Fi coverage over the entire cutting area? 2nd, loss of rtk signal, is there any way of knowing if there will be issues before buying? I have a small backyard ?that has a number big oak trees and my house is 2.5 stories. While the plan would be to mount the rtk at the top of the house, I’m still concerned about the functionality due to tree interference with the mower. Thoughts/experiences? Thanks, Arnie
It seems like the RTK to the mower connection is very strong regardless of trees. It is very important for the RTK to have a good view of the sky so that it has a good signal. I have not had any issues outside of wifi range but controlling it or viewing the live camera feed remotely (off site with your phone when you are not home) would be the only thing that might be an issue outside the wifi range. That is something that I never do anyway. I cant guarantee these things as I don't have the ability to test it on my property but that is my thoughts based on my experience.
Chicken coop automatic door opener. You might be able to adapt one of these devices to open and close a tiny garage door on your little garage. By door all I mean is a flap up or flap down. Or maybe a straight up and down guillotine type door.
@@normanthibault2744 yeah. It’s a great mower. Watch my new Yuka sweeper video. It’s pretty cool too. Thanks for watching. ua-cam.com/video/7kVECuF4qYw/v-deo.html
Hi, I know you didn't try the lawn sweeper device yet, but since you used both the ones I'm interested in, I'd value your opinion for my specific lawn. I'm trying to choose which is better between the Yuka 2000 or the Luba 2H 3000. My lot is .59 acres, but only .44 acres of grass. Biggest issues are I got 70 small trees to mow around, 2-3" diameter, 6' apart minimum. And an 18 degree max slope across the front of my yard. The other issue is I got a line of mature oak trees along one side property line. I can't imagine this small leaf sweeper could make a dent in that, but maybe? It seems the Yuka can hug the 70 trees better than the Luba. But the Luba may be better on the 18 degree slope up front? Do you think the Yuka can sidehill (parallel) cut the 18 degree slope with that front wheel setup? Without the sweeper, as I see they mention with the sweeper it's 10 degree max. Can you give me your opinion which of these would be better for my lot? Thanks, Ken in Indiana
I think with large properties that have complex layouts with off camber mowing the Luba is going to be the better machine. The Yuka works best on flatter ground and slight angles. I would go with Luba on this one. Without seeing the property that’s my best guess though. Hope that helps.
I saw something in Yukas product page only last night about slope performance with and without sweeper. Double check in case my figures are wrong but I think with sweeper it only handles 10% slope or something like that. Definitely check for yourself!
@@HawaiiDetailing Ended up buying a Luba 2 mostly due to your video. After working out the kinks I must say I’m more than satisfied. Few new products I have tried outperformed my expectations. But my Luba is definitely at the top of the list. It’s great and I’ll never go back. Was lucky to have an Autmow dealer nearby me in South Bend (Edwardsville). The guys bent over backwards to do a demo for me and even delivered to my house. Totally impressed. Thanks for this video! Ken
I don’t know the exact incline of my hills. The Luba is a beast on hills. It climbs damn near anything. Yuka has a software restriction and shuts down on the steeper hills. Best suited for reasonably flat yards.
They do create some seemingly large avoidance patterns. However, I thought it didn't really seem to matter in the end because on subsequent passes, as the robots resumed their normal patterns, they would basically cover the parts that had been avoided in the first place. The YUKA actually did a really decent job in the end with that tennis ball. Yes, some weird spinning around, but still... in the end, it would have mowed most of the area around the tennis ball. Did a better job than the LUBA 2, which just ran over the ball. I would think these could be fixed through firmware upgrades though for the LUBA 2, since it too has a camera like the YUKA.
These lawn robots are the best thing I have done in my yard. The grass is perfect and the work is very low. They keep trying g to make these better each update. It’s new tech so you have to be willing to play that game. Thanks for watching
This company has bad customer service. I have been trying to get a replacement charger for over 2 months without any success. I used the app to talk to customer service, with no help. I even called, but no help. Very bad customer service.
The lack of customer service is the only thing keeping me from buying a luba 2. So many recent complaints about them never reaching back to help people after spending thousands on their product. What good is a warranty if they ignore you??
I have purchased a Luba 5000 AWD and can honestly say it is absolute junk. It works for a few months and then the latest revs confuse it as it cannot intelligently decipher new satellite information and goes onto a positioning mode and does not leave the charging station after multiple hours of set-up. Luba has no telephone support (UNBELIEVABLE), and their chat line is on hold for 4 hours as this inferior product has so many dissatisfied customers with inoperable units. The chat service is the worst in the robotic business and they have no engineering capabilities. I got better service from 99% of my smart homme devices then this over-hyped neophyte company with no history or pedigree in the mower business. I am an engineer and can do many fixes but after 10 screenshots and 5 app feedbacks ..nada/ziltch from Mammotion. Hey forget about the BS of 2 year warranty as you will probably never get a RMA from them as they are truly a a non-starter for claiming to be a bona-fida mower firm. You will have a boat anchor in a short time. Believe me I learned the hard way, avoid Luba like a plague.
@@HawaiiDetailing thank you for the video and your reply to my comment. We need a robot mower for some of my parents grass as they are both 90 years old. Where did yo visit in Scotland ???
Let me add a bit - my yard is still under construction partially - it’s huge (5000 sq m) so luba needs to pass through mud and rough terrain, stones etc - its handling all that very well. The only issue is obstacles- trailers are a killer as it goes underneath and gets stucked. Also visual detection of obstacles is very poor. Algorithm of ‘going around’ the obstacle is weak as well… A major issue is no randomisation as far as passing from charging station to a channel leading to other areas - it’s always the same track and grass suffers on that track…
It climbs great but with the caster wheel on the front is does not do well on off camber lines. If you have a lot of lines that are off camber the Luba is the answer.
@@HawaiiDetailing Thanks for the great info! I ended up buying the Luba 3kH. I couldn't be happier. It climbs the hills with no problem. Your review helped a lot.
Yuka does a great job with the floating cutter head but I think the Luba is a much more capable machine depending on the situation. If its a smaller relatively flat yard with a lot of tight turns and very uneven ground the Yuka will do well. If there is any hill climbing or off camber cutting the Luba is more capable.
Its a great machine. They all operate on the same basic concept with some differences in process. I compared them and did my best to showcase these differences in this vid. Thanks for watching
Awesome. Congrats. Take the time to map properly and adjust perimeter as needed to avoid bumping objects on its way around the lap. This will save a lot of headache later.
It's 4g capable. I just installed an unlocked sim in mine with a data only plan and it worked immediately without having to do anything else (besides install it of course)
Still don’t know how you got these mowers shipped to Hawaii, both their websites and Amazon show not deliverable to the usual Alaska, Hawaii, PR, etc disclaimers.
Its a caster wheel for tight turns in smaller areas. Will do big ares too but most yards that are smaller are flat so I am guessing they geared it toward that.
Can you show how the Luba 2 reacts to losing satellite or RTK signal? The manual says it uses vision until “remaining momentum” reaches 0. That does not sound impressive.
Hello, i noticed that yuka seams to better avoid small objects. (Quite surpeised luba2 did not do the same) I have a few turtles in the yard and I would like any mowermto avoid them. Did you by any chance test with moving obstacles?
Any good reason to get the luba 2 over the yuka if you don't have any big slopes in your yard? The price of the yuka is really attractive in comparison to the more powerful ones. Really nice video btw! 👍
With a flat yard I would go with Yuka. Its more economical and a great little machine. With any rough terrain or hills or ultra complex terrain LUBA 1 or 2. Here is a link if you want tit. Thanks us.mammotion.com/products/yuka-2000-3d-vision-robot-lawn-sweeping-mower?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw34qzBhBmEiwAOUQcF27fxMFgBwrI_w6BcEh5CN6YrW3Th6alya4Pv-31gJD5Ur7oLWnWURoCu3UQAvD_BwE&ref=ute01rvk&
No I did not. Mine has not had any problems and it’s been running every single day since they came out. I have not needed any customer service with my machine but thanks for sharing your experience with everyone.
Think its more of a software thing than a battery thing. Like a Tesla. Comes with everything installed but if you don't pay extra you can't use it. Seems like a waste but its a common tech way of doing business. Thanks for watching
So you know, you can use one RTK with multiple mowers. Just have to pair each one to the one RTK. Also, you can choose to have it follow the perimeter to recharge or just take the direct path.
⚠ CAUTION ⚠ Purchased new LUBA 2 AWD 10000 for $4178 Worked well for 6 weeks, then stopped Support ticket created on May 20th Issues remain unresolved by Mammotion (26 days so far) Mower now completely unable to mow at all Mammotion not responded to warranty request for replacement Buyers beware, I’m certainly not the only one with this experience
These machines need a string trimmer on each side. Without that feature these machines are not hands free lawn maintenance units. The edges look unkempt.
Yeah you are right. It gets you 98% there. For some people that’s amazing. For others that’s 2% short. A string trimmer on the side would be dangerous around pets or kids or to any delicate items in the yard. Just my thoughts.
@@ErikAitomatic not sure what you mean? That was one of the most comprehensive tests I have ever done on this channel. What other aspects about these machines are you interested in?
To all the fanboys and paid testers out there: Forget it. I trusted y'all and bought a Yuka, but it can't even mow a 500 square meter lawn without getting stuck every time. They sent out an alpha-version prototype and don't even care to help you test it. The software is bad, the support is pretty much non-existent, and there's nobody nearby to fix it. After maybe 6 months, the parts will probably start falling apart, nobody can tell as of yet as there is no experience with this thing. I'm really disappointed after spending 3 whole days trying to get this thing to work on an easy yard.
I don’t want to discount your experience in any way as I understand being frustrated when things don’t go well but there are a few questions that may help. Is your RTK located with a clear line of sight to the sky and producing good satellite signal coverage? Is there overhead obstructions that could cause issues? Trees buildings etc. Is the charging station in a reasonable location with good WIFI reception and surrounding space allowing the robot to repeatedly enter and exit without issue? Was the grass prepped by pre mowing it down to a workable height within the mowers cutting height parameters? Is the mowing area well within the slope capability of the machine? Is the mowing area groomed reasonably flat so there are no pot holes or pits to cause issue while mowing? Is your perimeter map built with reasonable buffers to obstacles to account for various entry options and margin for error? Have you made no go zones for areas that are problematic such as gardens trees bushes etc. Do you mow often enough for this to be considered a maintenance cut or is the machine having to do big deep cuts every time it’s used? Do you have a reasonable level of technical skills and knowledge to support using this level of automation? This includes in the beginning phases making changes to workflow based presented problems to work toward a hands off experience? If you have done all the above items and still cannot get a satisfactory result maybe your property is just not right for the tool. If you have followed all these guidelines with no issue, had it working great and the machine has broken on you, I would demand a fast repair and help from customer service. If none of these above concerns are the problem I would consider a different approach style to get the help you need. Asking for help for specific problems from others who have had a great user experience on a forum like this. I understand the venting but the fanboy comments may not bring forward helpful people to provide the help you need. These machines do require changes after initial setup to account for issues that may arise while cutting. I usually make as many changes to the map as needed to get the perimeter to be ran without bumping edges or obstacle avoidance happening. After the perimeter map is perfected the machine will cut within the map consistently without issue. It’s all about the map. Hope that helps.
@HawaiiDetailing Thanks for the tips. I appreciate it, but I've already considered them and more. I'm an experienced engineer, and this device is riddled with problems. Here are just a few: The website says it takes 18 minutes to set this thing up. I've spent three full days, and it still stops and needs my intervention multiple times just on the first small part of my lawn for testing. The website claims an RTK connection range of 3km. That’s a joke. Mine often loses connection at less than 100m. It’s supposed to mow under trees, but it can’t. Even with a few sparse trees, Yuka loses GPS reception every time and stops working. There are tons of people online complaining about this. I live in a city, and obviously, there isn't a perfect clear view of all the satellites in every direction. This is just normal and Mammotion has to deal with it, not me. Nowhere does Mammotion mention that the robot can’t be used in cities with nearby buildings. The website even shows more complex setups than mine. My Refstation and robot usually find around 25-30 satellites, yet it still isn’t enough. Maybe you're right, and my lawn isn't "right" for the tool. BUT: There's no proper documentation to provide the necessary info before buying. So how was I supposed to know? Currently you have to do a lot of research and find all the bits of information on the web and youtube. Customer support is practically non-existent, and the software is buggy. The app gives wrong info about connection quality, and the robot sometimes navigates into no-go zones, which is unacceptable. This tool is for people who have a lot of time and want to tinker with a new gadget. Not for those who need a mower to save time on lawn care, which is supposedly the target audience.
([edit] see below..i could be wrong) I call bs on the yuka review. Your lawn is way less than 1 1/8". That thing was just driving over short grass. It looks like you use a cylindrical mower and these reviews are just nonsense.
@@LucidOscurity hahahaha. Too bad you think that but I have been using these mowers since they came out and love them. Got rid of every other mower. I would never BS a video. I don’t have to.
@@HawaiiDetailing hmm...I apologize then. that seriously looks like a lawn mowed with cylindrical scissors at maybe 3/4" max. It looks like a putting green.
I will say though that during the review, it didn't look like anything was being cut as your lawn was already manicured. I have seen this device chew through pretty deep grass though...it is impressive.
I cut the grass 10x while making the video. The concept of these machines is to keep it cut at the height you want by running it often. It should never have to take big cuts. Its a maintenance tool. If I were switching to a machine like this for the first time I would cut it to height first with a traditional mower or string trimmer and maintain that cut height with this machine. Thants when you get the best results
There is NOTHING that tells me the unit is recording the perimeter. I’ve successfully led it around the perimeter of my yard twice. Not happy with this company’s awful start up instructions!
I have not had any issue and my grass looks like a putting green. I don't lift a finger to keep it that way. Best investment for the yard I have ever made. You do have to be willing to learn the machine, its capabilities and adjust you expectations to make it work the best possible. Most people that have issues want it to run 1/2 inch from a complicated edge around a huge property. That is the dream but after the initial setup you should monitor the performance and adjust the border. This will eliminate the sections that are not able to be quite as close as you would hope. That is the key. After a few tests and adjustments you get your zone dialed in and its pretty much hands off from there. If in the future you notice a problem with a zone address as needed. Find a great placement for the RTK and do not move it. That is another important item. if you do move the RTK restart this whole process from scratch. If none of this process sounds entertaining or is not worth your time I definitely would not buy one. It also can go as slow as 1' per second so anything that gets hit is already in trouble before this thing even gets near it. Hahaha. Hopefully that helps some people with these questions..
Thanks for the great reviews! this may be a silly question, but when you talk about how many acres they can mow, is that per day? per zone? like could you have 4 zones that are 1 acres each on the luba 2, and have it rotate through them constantly and keep them all mowed even tho you say it can mow up to 2.5 acres? Thanks!
Thanks for watching. If you want links or more details on anything in this video look here. www.hawaiidetailing.com/robotic-lawn-mower. Here are the links to the machines
LUBA 2 amzn.to/3VdMbzM
LUBA 1 amzn.to/3VhEPeF
YUKA us.mammotion.com/products/yuka-2000-3d-vision-robot-lawn-sweeping-mower?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw34qzBhBmEiwAOUQcF27fxMFgBwrI_w6BcEh5CN6YrW3Th6alya4Pv-31gJD5Ur7oLWnWURoCu3UQAvD_BwE&ref=ute01rvk&
Luba 1&2 use ultra sonic sensors for obstacle avoidance not infrared.
True other than Luba1 uses IR line of sight for parking at the charger.
Even though this includes multiple mowers, this is by far the best review of a Luba 2.
Thanks.
1 answer!!! Luba is absolute junk - waste your money if you have tons of it.
@@dol3980 Based on the multitude of never ending software issues since major firmware and app revamp when they introduced Luba 2, I unfortunately have to agree with this. I was sooooo close to biting and then kept seeing the issues both main Facebook Luba groups.
This is awesome! More time for detailing! Walking through the trails and seeing the sights!
Awesome as always!
I hope you and your family are doing well!
Thanks! You too! I appreciate it
Didn't waste time and got this thing. Luba 2 AWD 1000H should be delivered within a week or so. Thanks for the video. Wouldn't have bought it without you!
Awesome. If you have any questions for me let me know. It’s a fun machine to set up and use. I am Stoked for you.
@southsidesmoka how is it? Mine getting delivered this week
I have purchased a Luba 5000 AWD and can honestly say it is absolute junk. It works for a few months and then the latest revs confuse it as it cannot intelligently decipher new satellite information and goes onto a positioning mode and does not leave the charging station after multiple hours of set-up. Luba has no telephone support (UNBELIEVABLE), and their chat line is on hold for 4 hours as this inferior product has so many dissatisfied customers with inoperable units. The chat service is the worst in the robotic business and they have no engineering capabilities. I got better service from 99% of my smart homme devices then this over-hyped neophyte company with no history or pedigree in the mower business. I am an engineer and can do many fixes but after 10 screenshots and 5 app feedbacks ..nada/ziltch from Mammotion. Hey forget about the BS of 2 year warranty as you will probably never get a RMA from them as they are truly a a non-starter for claiming to be a bona-fida mower firm. You will have a boat anchor in a short time. Believe me I learned the hard way, avoid Luba like a plague.
Amazing review, super in depth with no time wasted. One of the best reviews I've seen on any product I'm thinking about buying. Thank you!
Thanks a lot. I appreciate it. I am glad you enjoyed the video.
The battery is in fact the same in all of the Luba 2 models with the exception of the lowest model having a different battery. The top 3 Luba 2 models are strictly software restrictions for the amount of mowable area you can assign
Thanks for sharing.
I like your garage Idea. Looking into getting the LUBA 2. I'd probably try to use the leftover room in the compartment and make it fully solar with a battery. I'd also make some sort of ventilation with a couple fans or something. Thanks for the idea!
Sounds like a great idea. Share some pics when finished.
Thanks for the deep dive. Super helpful!
Thanks
Tony Hawk doing lawnmower robot reviews now?! Awesome video thanks 😁
Try calling Luba my friend and then get back to us when it cannot position to the latest elliptical satellite LEO orbits. Luba is JUNK. You will soon own a door stop not a robotic lawnmower.
I 100% believe that you live in Hawaii 😄 Seriously though, thanks for the great review, I'm considering a Yuka for my quite flat lawn. I hope you will upload a review of the bagging soon!
Thanks. When I get the bag I will make another vid.
Great video, very cool that you have all 3.
These are really neat machines.
I was hoping the benefit of the Luba2 camera was to allow close mapping to edges like fences and walls where signal can be low or bad, but allowing it to still get really close to those things without touching, even if the signal is throwing it off and otherwise would make it bump into walls or fences, be great to see this actually tested ? Would you mind trying it out?
Eg map super close to a fence or wall in a bad signal area (1inch max away), then see if the camera avoids contact on the nearest border cut, the camera is supposed to prevent contact when the satellite resolution drops in a bad signal area.
I have a Luba 2 and the software for the camera has a lot of room to improve is that tnice way to put it. But right now, it does not help prevent collision with my house when I map too close. I discovered the same thing this video did, map it with a nice 6" margin makes it run smoother. It still hits the walls though from time to time. But I didn't map perfectly. But the point is the camera is not helping see the wall and avoid it.
@@RobotMowerTricks ok thanks for the update, makes the Luba 2 pointless as an upgrade for now, as I don’t have stopping issues only accuracy issues around metal fences, meaning I’ve had to keep some distance away already.
@@RobotMowerTricksis the software fully updated?
@@hines862009 my software is fully updated if that's what you mean
Side bumpers have never worked on either of my luba 1 models.
Does it have like a alarm if someone tries to steal it?
Has a sim card with real time tracking. Also an alert when it leaves the property. I also have cameras in my yard and nothing better to do but run out there if some idiot wants to give play games. hahahaha.
Seen video where luba 2 is parked in a garage without gps signal, any idea if this works with the Yuka?
Not sure about that.
Do you have to leave the Luba 2 in the open sky? Or you can set it up under a shade?
I have not tested the gps signal in bad conditions but based on reports from others it works pretty well under cover of trees.
@@HawaiiDetailing Don't know about trees but the Luba2 gets a poor positioning signal in the front of my yard, so it doesn't finish cutting. My RTK/GPS is mounted to a rail on the back of my house on the 2nd floor where a deck will eventually go. It stops cutting so I return it to an area that has line of sight of the RTK. Approximately 10 min later, it's working again. 30 min later, it's sending poor positioning errors again. 45-60min requires charging so I spend all day trying to have a 2k+ robot cut my yard. Sending it back for the Navimow i105n. I'm reading I'll have similar RTK/GPS issues. I'll update you after 5/7.
@@HawaiiDetailing I returned the Navimow. It can't get out of its own way, meaning it gets stuck in the slightest of ruts from the separation of sheets of sod and can't climb the slightest of hills either so it had to go. I'll set up the new Luba 2 this week but placing it 15 feet from the house because I installed a 22x15 concrete pad. After using the Luba 2, then returned it for the Navimow, I understand the need for 4 wheel power and an app that allows you to view what the mower sees, change the cutting hight and the app let's you change cutting direction, along with restarting from a percentage of the job, any percentage of the job. Not only does the Navimow fail in all of that, the Luba 2 allows you to manually mow using the Bluetooth connection so you don't need an edger unless you want to really get to the edges of your house. Luba 2 is worth the money.
I ordered the Yuka 1500 today. Less to go wrong and the sweeper made the deal.
Awesome. I love my robots. Yard looks amazing and a fun tool to have.
Have you heard of the Airseeker Tron? If so, any opinion compared to the robots reviewed?
Heard of it but don’t know anything about it. Would love to test one to see how they are. Maybe I will soon?
Can you tell me what deck box you used for the garage? I’d like to do the same.
Here it is. Look under Garage & Accessories. www.hawaiidetailing.com/robotic-lawn-mower
I've had a Luba 1 since they first came out. I mow four separate zones. One is 100' x 200'. I mostly use hybrid sonic / bumper obstacle avoidance. I considered a Luba 2 but can't see any reason to spend the money when what I have does the job. I also have some decently heavy tree cover, and rough terrain. I was lazy and mounted the RTD on its supplied pole for easy access. No real problems except for the initial set-up. My iteration of the manual was really terrible but I've heard it has been improved.
Thanks for sharing
If you purchase the Luba 5000 and let’s say move property in a few years and require a Luba 10,000 surely you can pay for the software upgrade as the hardware is identical?
If not this would be great.
I don't know but am guessing its a no
Battery
Kind sir I am planning for a garage and would love to know the dimensions from the front of YUKA to the back of the charging station while connected. I asked mammotion and they told me 648mm which did not answer the question of the two things connected. I know its 25.5'. TIA ps my guess is around 31" but dunno.
Roughly 32”. Go to my website and email me if you want a few pics of the machine with tape measure for better clarity. Thanks.
@@HawaiiDetailing Thank You so much!
can it push through a push gate?
Maybe?? It has a collision bumper so it diverts direction when it hits something. It wouls have to be super light weight gate
Great comparison, thanks. I now have Yuka on order, however I wonder if you can set different mowing heights to multiple zones?
I am doing another video soon and will cover this topic. The YUKA adjusts its cutting bed height with a physical adjustment knob on top of the machine. LUBA 1&2 its via the app and could be done with programing zones accordingly although I have not tried it yet. I just did a first cut with the new production model YUKA and it has fantastic cut quality with its floating cutting head. If you like your yard looking like a golf course fairway you will be happy with it.
Are you sure those sensors on the Luba units are infrared? Could they be sonar? They look just like the sensors on cars that are sonar.
They are actually Ultra Sonic. I mis spoke when I made the video.
@@HawaiiDetailing and I misspoke in my comment. I knew they were sound based and my brain went to sonar but of course ultra sonic is the correct term.
Great comparison, most useful one I've seen yet. I have one question, my new (quite flat) yard contains different quite narrow paths of grass (like just under 1 meter /3 feet wide). do you think the mapping an mowing of these paths will be ok with Yuka?
Yes it should. Without seeing the yard that’s a tough claim for me to make. Plan to leave conservative margins along the edges and it runs flawlessly for me.
in my opinion the object detection is quite aggresive. if it can see the object in 3d, why not mow nicely around it?
Great great job. Thank you...ordering the Luba 2. Take care, Stan
@@StanManChan thanks.
@@HawaiiDetailing I'm planning on integrating it to my Home Assistant system and have it trigger a small gate to open in my fence when it approaches. This will help keep my wiener dogs from escaping. Keep up the good work.
Thanks
@@StanManChan Have you been able to make that small gate thing work? if yes can you share how you did it?
@@sunilduttk19 Not yet...looks like it will be a Spring project.
Do you have to draw a no go zone for a shed, childrens swing and playhouse or you can just turn on the Level 2 obstical guidens?
I would do a no go zone to avoid issues.
Great video! I have the Luba 1000 and works well, but it is definitely not suited for my yard as I have connectivity issues with many high trees. My question, how did the Yuka handle your slope/hill? I have a hill that is about a 40-50% grade that the Luba handles easily. I think the Yuka is what I need, but only if it can handle the hill. Thanks!
I does hills good but it has a caster wheel on the front so it does not do well sideways on the hills.
@@HawaiiDetailing Thank you, great to know. Seems I just will set the patten differently on the hill, but it may work for me. Again, thank you!
@@Aurelian57 did you get the Yuka in the end? How does it do on the hill for you, I have a similar hill in my mowing area and looking for feedback before I pull the trigger on the Yuka 2000
@@MrLezlaI did not get the Yuka. My Luba 1000 does my hill perfectly (25-30 degrees), but still connectivity issues. There are a good amount of Yuka reviews that state the Yuka has a sensor to detect when it’s over 24 degrees, so I opted out of the Yuka. I backed the Airseekers Tron instead.
The beat for the obstacle avoidance portion of the video is thumping! I have very good computer speakers and it was rattling the house lol. Think I'm getting the Luba 2. Wonder how it will do in the fall with my 3 maple trees. 🤔 need to find a fall review on one.
Yeah. Great machine but I do not have and big trees so I can't vouch for that. Thanks for watching
What if I want to cut multiple properties?
You would need multiple machines.
Great video. I have a couple of questions. First, do these require Wi-Fi coverage over the entire cutting area? 2nd, loss of rtk signal, is there any way of knowing if there will be issues before buying? I have a small backyard ?that has a number big oak trees and my house is 2.5 stories. While the plan would be to mount the rtk at the top of the house, I’m still concerned about the functionality due to tree interference with the mower. Thoughts/experiences?
Thanks,
Arnie
It seems like the RTK to the mower connection is very strong regardless of trees. It is very important for the RTK to have a good view of the sky so that it has a good signal. I have not had any issues outside of wifi range but controlling it or viewing the live camera feed remotely (off site with your phone when you are not home) would be the only thing that might be an issue outside the wifi range. That is something that I never do anyway. I cant guarantee these things as I don't have the ability to test it on my property but that is my thoughts based on my experience.
Chicken coop automatic door opener. You might be able to adapt one of these devices to open and close a tiny garage door on your little garage. By door all I mean is a flap up or flap down. Or maybe a straight up and down guillotine type door.
Great idea. Will look into it.
@@HawaiiDetailingMy Luba 2 AWD 10000 arrives tomorrow! Yippee!
Today is my third day with my Luba 2! Once I’m more familiar and comfortable with it I’ll be mowing a full 2.5 acres!
Great job on your review of these products. I like Luba 2
@@normanthibault2744 yeah. It’s a great mower. Watch my new Yuka sweeper video. It’s pretty cool too. Thanks for watching.
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Hi, I know you didn't try the lawn sweeper device yet, but since you used both the ones I'm interested in, I'd value your opinion for my specific lawn. I'm trying to choose which is better between the Yuka 2000 or the Luba 2H 3000. My lot is .59 acres, but only .44 acres of grass. Biggest issues are I got 70 small trees to mow around, 2-3" diameter, 6' apart minimum. And an 18 degree max slope across the front of my yard. The other issue is I got a line of mature oak trees along one side property line. I can't imagine this small leaf sweeper could make a dent in that, but maybe? It seems the Yuka can hug the 70 trees better than the Luba. But the Luba may be better on the 18 degree slope up front? Do you think the Yuka can sidehill (parallel) cut the 18 degree slope with that front wheel setup? Without the sweeper, as I see they mention with the sweeper it's 10 degree max.
Can you give me your opinion which of these would be better for my lot?
Thanks, Ken in Indiana
I think with large properties that have complex layouts with off camber mowing the Luba is going to be the better machine. The Yuka works best on flatter ground and slight angles. I would go with Luba on this one. Without seeing the property that’s my best guess though. Hope that helps.
I saw something in Yukas product page only last night about slope performance with and without sweeper. Double check in case my figures are wrong but I think with sweeper it only handles 10% slope or something like that. Definitely check for yourself!
@@HawaiiDetailing Ended up buying a Luba 2 mostly due to your video. After working out the kinks I must say I’m more than satisfied. Few new products I have tried outperformed my expectations. But my Luba is definitely at the top of the list. It’s great and I’ll never go back. Was lucky to have an Autmow dealer nearby me in South Bend (Edwardsville). The guys bent over backwards to do a demo for me and even delivered to my house. Totally impressed. Thanks for this video! Ken
Great review video. Cheers
Thanks.
Do you know the incline of your slopes? There's free phones apps for it such inclineomneter which will tell you the incline in degrees
I don’t know the exact incline of my hills. The Luba is a beast on hills. It climbs damn near anything. Yuka has a software restriction and shuts down on the steeper hills. Best suited for reasonably flat yards.
They do create some seemingly large avoidance patterns. However, I thought it didn't really seem to matter in the end because on subsequent passes, as the robots resumed their normal patterns, they would basically cover the parts that had been avoided in the first place. The YUKA actually did a really decent job in the end with that tennis ball. Yes, some weird spinning around, but still... in the end, it would have mowed most of the area around the tennis ball. Did a better job than the LUBA 2, which just ran over the ball. I would think these could be fixed through firmware upgrades though for the LUBA 2, since it too has a camera like the YUKA.
These lawn robots are the best thing I have done in my yard. The grass is perfect and the work is very low. They keep trying g to make these better each update. It’s new tech so you have to be willing to play that game. Thanks for watching
How did you get the Luba 2 shipped to Hawaii?
This company has bad customer service. I have been trying to get a replacement charger for over 2 months without any success. I used the app to talk to customer service, with no help. I even called, but no help. Very bad customer service.
Any update on getting a charger?
The lack of customer service is the only thing keeping me from buying a luba 2. So many recent complaints about them never reaching back to help people after spending thousands on their product. What good is a warranty if they ignore you??
I have purchased a Luba 5000 AWD and can honestly say it is absolute junk. It works for a few months and then the latest revs confuse it as it cannot intelligently decipher new satellite information and goes onto a positioning mode and does not leave the charging station after multiple hours of set-up. Luba has no telephone support (UNBELIEVABLE), and their chat line is on hold for 4 hours as this inferior product has so many dissatisfied customers with inoperable units. The chat service is the worst in the robotic business and they have no engineering capabilities. I got better service from 99% of my smart homme devices then this over-hyped neophyte company with no history or pedigree in the mower business. I am an engineer and can do many fixes but after 10 screenshots and 5 app feedbacks ..nada/ziltch from Mammotion. Hey forget about the BS of 2 year warranty as you will probably never get a RMA from them as they are truly a a non-starter for claiming to be a bona-fida mower firm. You will have a boat anchor in a short time. Believe me I learned the hard way, avoid Luba like a plague.
Great video! How often do the blades on the yuka have to be changed out?
I would say every few months for me. I inspect them and if they are sharp and in good condition I leave them.
Did you not notice the front tires on the Luba are made for Zero turns is the reason it didn't scuff up your lawn???
Yes. It had omnidirectional wheels on the front that roll and go sideways. Definitely reduces scuffing
What happened to those tennis balls after the Luba ran over them? Did they come out the back or did the Luba stop?
They just got stuck underneath
As i live in Scotland, how does it cope with the rsin.😊
I don’t have a lot of super wet conditions here. Sorry but can’t give facts on this one. Went to Scotland last year. Had a blast.
@@HawaiiDetailing thank you for the video and your reply to my comment.
We need a robot mower for some of my parents grass as they are both 90 years old.
Where did yo visit in Scotland ???
Its a cool machine. Scotland was fun. We did the whole loop. Edinburgh, Glasgow, Pitlochry. Loch Ness.
There is a video of a guy from New Zealand. Very wet gras Luba 2 doing great
Let me add a bit - my yard is still under construction partially - it’s huge (5000 sq m) so luba needs to pass through mud and rough terrain, stones etc - its handling all that very well. The only issue is obstacles- trailers are a killer as it goes underneath and gets stucked. Also visual detection of obstacles is very poor. Algorithm of ‘going around’ the obstacle is weak as well…
A major issue is no randomisation as far as passing from charging station to a channel leading to other areas - it’s always the same track and grass suffers on that track…
Back with another Banger! 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks. This was a fun project.
Have you tested the Yuka's ability on slopes? I know it is not meant for big slopes but would love to know what it can handle.
It climbs great but with the caster wheel on the front is does not do well on off camber lines. If you have a lot of lines that are off camber the Luba is the answer.
@@HawaiiDetailing Thanks for the great info! I ended up buying the Luba 3kH. I couldn't be happier. It climbs the hills with no problem. Your review helped a lot.
@@EMSV66 Great to hear.
For an uneven yard, would you recommend the Yuka over the luba so you don't scalp your yard?
Yuka does a great job with the floating cutter head but I think the Luba is a much more capable machine depending on the situation. If its a smaller relatively flat yard with a lot of tight turns and very uneven ground the Yuka will do well. If there is any hill climbing or off camber cutting the Luba is more capable.
@@HawaiiDetailing What's smaller for you? I have a 1200m2 yard (all in 1 zone), no trees. Seems like the Yuka should do the trick?
It will do a half Acre and that is size limited in the software meaning it will not make a zone bigger than that.
Great review thank you ! Greetings from Belgium :-)
Thanks
Why did they kill AWD for the Yoka?
It’s made for a different working environment. Smaller tighter yards. For the big yards with tough terrain go with Luba 2.
i have small yard with rough Terrain, what To-Do ... :-/
I do too. If its tough go with Luba2. It works great in small yards too but also shine in the big ones. Thats what I used for over a year now.
Great review, it's actually helpful to form a decision :)
Thanks
If you could only choose one of them... which would it be?
Luba 2
Awesome video! What is the size of the garagebox you used?
amzn.to/3wtEQDJ Thanks
Nice garage idea, you then also have some additional storage.
Yeah. Thanks.
Great work, thanks alot! You also made me laugh a lot 1
Glad to hear that!
Looks really convincing. What about dog’s poo ? Is it detected as an obstacle or will it be spread out over a large surface ? And a hedgehog?😢
It will rip it to bits.
This zone next to your driveway, with 2 trees? Why its not cutted?
I have been lazy and not doing any edging. Today I cut it back and edited the zone to get most of it.
one precision, these are ultrasonic sensor, not infrared. big big difference.
infrared wouldn't work to detect obstacles
Yes I realized the mid naming of it but the video was already published. Thanks for pointing it out.
Jealous! Great video!
Thanks. I watched some of your videos too. Good stuff.
How did you get it shipped to Hawaii...I'm on Mauii
Did you find out how to get it shipped? I'm on Big Island and haven't had any luck with shipping.
No luck yet for shipping to Maui…Mammotion said nothing planned for Hawaii this year
How do you rate Yuka?
Its a great machine. They all operate on the same basic concept with some differences in process. I compared them and did my best to showcase these differences in this vid. Thanks for watching
Do they sell to the USA
Yes. I have more info and links to it here www.hawaiidetailing.com/robotic-lawn-mower
Nice review but Yuka isn’t available to pre-order in the USA?! Website would only give Luba 2 as an option 🤬. I don’t want the Luba2 I want the Yuka!
There is a link in my description for their kickstarter they are running.
The Yuka reminds me of a baby ED209 tadpole without legs.
Hahahahaa
It‘s the TESLA among lawnmowers.
Yuka already ordert.
Can‘t wait to get to play with it and put it in operation.
Awesome. Congrats. Take the time to map properly and adjust perimeter as needed to avoid bumping objects on its way around the lap. This will save a lot of headache later.
Bel video complimeti! 💪
Will it have 4g
It's 4g capable. I just installed an unlocked sim in mine with a data only plan and it worked immediately without having to do anything else (besides install it of course)
Still don’t know how you got these mowers shipped to Hawaii, both their websites and Amazon show not deliverable to the usual Alaska, Hawaii, PR, etc disclaimers.
Its a caster wheel for tight turns in smaller areas. Will do big ares too but most yards that are smaller are flat so I am guessing they geared it toward that.
Can you show how the Luba 2 reacts to losing satellite or RTK signal? The manual says it uses vision until “remaining momentum” reaches 0. That does not sound impressive.
What island do you live on? Also, are you a professional or DIY detailer? Thnx.
Hello, i noticed that yuka seams to better avoid small objects. (Quite surpeised luba2 did not do the same)
I have a few turtles in the yard and I would like any mowermto avoid them.
Did you by any chance test with moving obstacles?
I have not tested with things like that??
Any good reason to get the luba 2 over the yuka if you don't have any big slopes in your yard? The price of the yuka is really attractive in comparison to the more powerful ones.
Really nice video btw! 👍
With a flat yard I would go with Yuka. Its more economical and a great little machine. With any rough terrain or hills or ultra complex terrain LUBA 1 or 2. Here is a link if you want tit. Thanks us.mammotion.com/products/yuka-2000-3d-vision-robot-lawn-sweeping-mower?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw34qzBhBmEiwAOUQcF27fxMFgBwrI_w6BcEh5CN6YrW3Th6alya4Pv-31gJD5Ur7oLWnWURoCu3UQAvD_BwE&ref=ute01rvk&
Can you start a lawn tube channel 👍🏽
Hahaha. I love doing lawn videos. this was the most fun I have had making a video. Says a lot for these machines.
@@HawaiiDetailingHawaiiLawntailing????😂
31:41 my man even had Mammotion cut his hair.
Hahaaha
Did you mention that the customer service was awful? Just in case you have a problem with these mowers ...
No I did not. Mine has not had any problems and it’s been running every single day since they came out. I have not needed any customer service with my machine but thanks for sharing your experience with everyone.
When it works it’s great, but when it doesn’t they provide you no service is what a Google search shows.
You think Luba 1 will ever get the camera attachment piece as a add on
I doubt it.
Looks like rip off 2000 more for bigger battery ?
Think its more of a software thing than a battery thing. Like a Tesla. Comes with everything installed but if you don't pay extra you can't use it. Seems like a waste but its a common tech way of doing business. Thanks for watching
So you know, you can use one RTK with multiple mowers. Just have to pair each one to the one RTK.
Also, you can choose to have it follow the perimeter to recharge or just take the direct path.
⚠ CAUTION ⚠
Purchased new LUBA 2 AWD 10000 for $4178
Worked well for 6 weeks, then stopped
Support ticket created on May 20th
Issues remain unresolved by Mammotion (26 days so far)
Mower now completely unable to mow at all
Mammotion not responded to warranty request for replacement
Buyers beware, I’m certainly not the only one with this experience
Oh my god, thank you for telling that. Unfortunately to late, I bought one and now have already a lot of troubles with it.
update: after 64 frustrating days, I was finally offered a full refund.
These machines need a string trimmer on each side. Without that feature these machines are not hands free lawn maintenance units. The edges look unkempt.
Yeah you are right. It gets you 98% there. For some people that’s amazing. For others that’s 2% short. A string trimmer on the side would be dangerous around pets or kids or to any delicate items in the yard. Just my thoughts.
@@HawaiiDetailing
A proximity sensor could be employed to turn off the string trimmers if anything unexpected gets too close.
Yarbo is MUCH better than these units. You need to review one.
Thought it was a test, but sounda like a bad add.
@@ErikAitomatic not sure what you mean? That was one of the most comprehensive tests I have ever done on this channel. What other aspects about these machines are you interested in?
Luba 1 is crap and can't take any rain. We shall see how the 2 does.
They both are designed to return to the charger when it’s raining. They have a water sensor on the top of them.
Can you teach it to take out dandelions daily?
Yes of course.
To all the fanboys and paid testers out there: Forget it. I trusted y'all and bought a Yuka, but it can't even mow a 500 square meter lawn without getting stuck every time. They sent out an alpha-version prototype and don't even care to help you test it. The software is bad, the support is pretty much non-existent, and there's nobody nearby to fix it. After maybe 6 months, the parts will probably start falling apart, nobody can tell as of yet as there is no experience with this thing. I'm really disappointed after spending 3 whole days trying to get this thing to work on an easy yard.
I don’t want to discount your experience in any way as I understand being frustrated when things don’t go well but there are a few questions that may help.
Is your RTK located with a clear line of sight to the sky and producing good satellite signal coverage?
Is there overhead obstructions that could cause issues? Trees buildings etc.
Is the charging station in a reasonable location with good WIFI reception and surrounding space allowing the robot to repeatedly enter and exit without issue?
Was the grass prepped by pre mowing it down to a workable height within the mowers cutting height parameters?
Is the mowing area well within the slope capability of the machine?
Is the mowing area groomed reasonably flat so there are no pot holes or pits to cause issue while mowing?
Is your perimeter map built with reasonable buffers to obstacles to account for various entry options and margin for error?
Have you made no go zones for areas that are problematic such as gardens trees bushes etc.
Do you mow often enough for this to be considered a maintenance cut or is the machine having to do big deep cuts every time it’s used?
Do you have a reasonable level of technical skills and knowledge to support using this level of automation? This includes in the beginning phases making changes to workflow based presented problems to work toward a hands off experience?
If you have done all the above items and still cannot get a satisfactory result maybe your property is just not right for the tool.
If you have followed all these guidelines with no issue, had it working great and the machine has broken on you, I would demand a fast repair and help from customer service.
If none of these above concerns are the problem I would consider a different approach style to get the help you need. Asking for help for specific problems from others who have had a great user experience on a forum like this.
I understand the venting but the fanboy comments may not bring forward helpful people to provide the help you need.
These machines do require changes after initial setup to account for issues that may arise while cutting. I usually make as many changes to the map as needed to get the perimeter to be ran without bumping edges or obstacle avoidance happening. After the perimeter map is perfected the machine will cut within the map consistently without issue. It’s all about the map. Hope that helps.
@HawaiiDetailing Thanks for the tips. I appreciate it, but I've already considered them and more. I'm an experienced engineer, and this device is riddled with problems. Here are just a few:
The website says it takes 18 minutes to set this thing up. I've spent three full days, and it still stops and needs my intervention multiple times just on the first small part of my lawn for testing.
The website claims an RTK connection range of 3km. That’s a joke. Mine often loses connection at less than 100m.
It’s supposed to mow under trees, but it can’t. Even with a few sparse trees, Yuka loses GPS reception every time and stops working. There are tons of people online complaining about this.
I live in a city, and obviously, there isn't a perfect clear view of all the satellites in every direction. This is just normal and Mammotion has to deal with it, not me. Nowhere does Mammotion mention that the robot can’t be used in cities with nearby buildings. The website even shows more complex setups than mine. My Refstation and robot usually find around 25-30 satellites, yet it still isn’t enough.
Maybe you're right, and my lawn isn't "right" for the tool. BUT: There's no proper documentation to provide the necessary info before buying. So how was I supposed to know? Currently you have to do a lot of research and find all the bits of information on the web and youtube.
Customer support is practically non-existent, and the software is buggy. The app gives wrong info about connection quality, and the robot sometimes navigates into no-go zones, which is unacceptable.
This tool is for people who have a lot of time and want to tinker with a new gadget. Not for those who need a mower to save time on lawn care, which is supposedly the target audience.
Guys, that's Tony Hawk. Nice try
Hahahaha
([edit] see below..i could be wrong)
I call bs on the yuka review. Your lawn is way less than 1 1/8". That thing was just driving over short grass. It looks like you use a cylindrical mower and these reviews are just nonsense.
@@LucidOscurity hahahaha. Too bad you think that but I have been using these mowers since they came out and love them. Got rid of every other mower. I would never BS a video. I don’t have to.
@@HawaiiDetailing hmm...I apologize then. that seriously looks like a lawn mowed with cylindrical scissors at maybe 3/4" max. It looks like a putting green.
I will say though that during the review, it didn't look like anything was being cut as your lawn was already manicured. I have seen this device chew through pretty deep grass though...it is impressive.
Thanks. I run the bot every other day and it sweeps and cuts with razor blade performance. Yard looks pretty good and I just watch it mow.
I cut the grass 10x while making the video. The concept of these machines is to keep it cut at the height you want by running it often. It should never have to take big cuts. Its a maintenance tool. If I were switching to a machine like this for the first time I would cut it to height first with a traditional mower or string trimmer and maintain that cut height with this machine. Thants when you get the best results
Merci !
Thank you. I appreciate it
There is NOTHING that tells me the unit is recording the perimeter. I’ve successfully led it around the perimeter of my yard twice. Not happy with this company’s awful start up instructions!
Those are NOT infrared sensors, they are ultrasonic sensors, really you should know your product a little better🤭
@@geoff8926thanks for solving the issue.
Cameras and sensors still looks like expensive hedgehog murderer :(
I have not had any issue and my grass looks like a putting green. I don't lift a finger to keep it that way. Best investment for the yard I have ever made. You do have to be willing to learn the machine, its capabilities and adjust you expectations to make it work the best possible. Most people that have issues want it to run 1/2 inch from a complicated edge around a huge property. That is the dream but after the initial setup you should monitor the performance and adjust the border. This will eliminate the sections that are not able to be quite as close as you would hope. That is the key. After a few tests and adjustments you get your zone dialed in and its pretty much hands off from there. If in the future you notice a problem with a zone address as needed. Find a great placement for the RTK and do not move it. That is another important item. if you do move the RTK restart this whole process from scratch. If none of this process sounds entertaining or is not worth your time I definitely would not buy one. It also can go as slow as 1' per second so anything that gets hit is already in trouble before this thing even gets near it. Hahaha. Hopefully that helps some people with these questions..
Your video and this explanation are incredibly helpful, thank you!🤙🏼
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There he is. Thanks man
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Thanks for getting in on it
Thanks for the great reviews! this may be a silly question, but when you talk about how many acres they can mow, is that per day? per zone? like could you have 4 zones that are 1 acres each on the luba 2, and have it rotate through them constantly and keep them all mowed even tho you say it can mow up to 2.5 acres? Thanks!
It’s total acres that can be programmed into the app in the form of zones. Thanks.
So like, you can have one zone up to 2.5 acres in size and then add another zone up to 2.5 acres in size?