Last one for today it's midnight now so I will be back tomorrow with new unit testing! Happy farming guys : ) Abyss sucks haha Swapping Loren with Jaara and got my first 36 seconds run
This is a strange update. Runes cost more mana to upgrade. They eliminated a few useful artifact subs. It costs both more mana and more fodder to evolve. The abyss dungeon has a terrible drop rate. There are definitely some quality of life improvements, but they also made some quality of life decreases.
Hey! Just in case you didn't see the in-game notice, they are going to revert the increase to fodder needed to evolve, and refund any fodder that was used!
Runes cost nearly the same. You're supposed to upgrade to +6 or +9 before going full +12 and after to +15. You should spend on average the same mana but a fixed cost for +15 which could often be less than 1m or almost 3m and in time terms is instantly
ok, thanks for showing these. Definitely sticking to my regular giants and dragons b10 instead. The fact that these can still drop blue runes is a crime
I would assume casual f2p players would struggle to get 1min 30 with no failures, usually even slower. With the rates and higher energy cost, its really hard to justify abyss. B10 does seem better. You can simply get a lot more runes per hour of grinding. And like many others, i havent seen a intangible rune worth keeping yet
The only reasons any one would farm the new dungeon is the new rune, issue is... there is 5 others set of runes, Rune pieces, giant symbol, rainbow mons, mystics ... they will see pretty soon that not that many people will go farm this dungeon. The really need to make blue runes disapear or better make it so that the runes in Abyss are actually ancient runes instead of normal ones.
@@kannonfps most abyss runs are gonna be guys like me (midgame) trying to fing a comp that works 75% of the time. just to end up giving up and farming 1 dungeaon out of the 10s they made
one of my main concern about this new patch is the AI, there are very good monsters, lyn is great if she uses her third skill, it was a pitty they didnt do anything about AI, specially now with this new dungeons.
My previous guild was confused why I built 2a shannon for starter GB12 team in the past. Now that abyss is here, Shannon becomes a great unit again for GB. 😂
Com2us basically just moved the rune drops from the old GB12 and DB12 to their Giant/Dragon Abyss equivalents, without improving the drops at all. It's the exact same - shitty - drops from GB12 and DB12. There's a table in the patch notes that illustrates exactly that. Go look at it. Why did they do it? So that you don't use Tricaru everywhere, and slow down your runs, so you keep your game open for longer (more game time). Abyss doesn't allow for dupe units, so you basically build new teams to get the exact same bad rune drops from the old GB12 and DB12. What a joke.
currently working on a team including fight runes with Nephthys (L), Akhahmamir, Kro, Veromos, Savanah. Nephthys providing extreme debuffs for extreme damage increase to fast clear the boss (my issue). My Savannah AoE def break sets up the def break for Akhahmamir/Vero to clear waves with S3/S2. After mid boss, skills be up for 2nd trash wave, set it up the same way, then the boss stage Nephthys puts up the S2 debuffs, Kro/Savannah/Akhahmamir do damage based on that, and vero do vero things. Fight set on Kro, Akhahmamir and Savannah (possibly Neph), and a shield set on Vero. So far I got half the team built and doing 1min 10 runs average with them plus less optimal units. Higher rune requirements though.
If u go Shannon/Roid the rune quality shouldnt be that high but i think with first team ill struggle cause lacking runes! Need to farm more gb10 or gbnormal for the beginning!
Thanks for your Effort, i love your Videos. Could you try using Bark (the whind pirate) instead of loren in your speedy team? I think he should be better and is a f2p option for people who dont have jaara or narsha. Maybe with spd/cdmg/acc and the same setup the team could go sub 1minute and is almost f2p (lyn and bark are easy to get). Would love to see you try that out. I dont have the runes to do it 😞
Do you set up the account to set up team monsters etc for a fee of course or is there someone who does it? It's for a gift for a friend of mine who has been playing for many years like me but gets immensely bored setting up monsters
I used Galleon instead of Loren(because 0 hits vs 3 hits hehe) from the very first run and I haven't changed it since... My team is Sigmarus, Veromos, Galleon, Lyn, Naomi2A. It is kinda slow tho... 1:10 avg. clear time haven't lost yet... I've probably used 3000 energy already?
After a bunch of testing i converged on tthis team sigmarus (lead), bernard, galleon, vero, shamman with low EU G1 runes it averages about 1:05 and so far failed 2x in 170 runs - both runs were just super unlucky with AI and resists. But i dont feel like its worth farming over B10 for most people. It needs pretty high rune quality and most of the units are not really usable outside of PVE on those builds. I can speedrun all the b10 and R5 with around 15 decently runed monsters - but these abyssal floors require weird garbage, so its going to bump it up by like 5 more pretty good rage sets.
bro said relatable runes most mons have over 250-270 speed along with other stats most while nearly all nukers are 200+ cd near 100 cr and 180 speed most people only have 2 sets that can replicate those stats for beginners
Couldn't agree with you more. I had over 500ms. 40 ld over 30 legend scrolls. I got literally nothing. 2 of the new 4 stars. I guess that's something. Now I auto farm and come back to blue runes. Lmao. Com2us missed the mark completely.
I don't really like the update, com2us screwed up the level up circle and a couple other things, but I like the runes update and I like the events that's it
Just make it all purple+ 6* runes in Abyss 12 and it’s the best update of all time. For now it’s just meh. We get less Mana by selling runes, ur requires more mana to upgrade them, like every change where I hoped they do something exciting just turned out to be very meh..
they need to remove rune crafting material 90% of the runes you craft with them craft into 5 star runes.. like i’m grinding something that only gives 6 star runes but the rune crafting putty system gives 5 stars lol?
Would change loren with galleone, he has no multi hit but good absorb and defense break and you will always have atk buff with galleone and wind bk… thx for your videos, love watching you play sw✌🏻
Its fun to craft speed team and all, but looking at the drop rates I just take a team that works decently and do the event and will go back to regular farming. Abyss is shit for now (hopefully the drops will be improved)
Threw a Deborah in there and lyn suddenly hits for 350,000 with brand def break and no atk buff. Not much faster tho cuz her ai is still booty, average around 1min 10sec and best record at 46sec rn
Hey guys I tried sweeping though the comments before I posted but around 9 min Sean suggests a team that has Riley and Kro, does anyone have any exp with this team with Shannon instead? I am a couple of days in and was thinking of doing Vero, Shannon, Kro, Roid, and Naomi. I will have to prolly save abyss runs until I can 2A everyone but again I just wanted a direction to build my account instead of switching around the team. I currently don't have a wind aoe unit :(
I think they kind of messed up monster evolution. It is a lot harder to 6* monster now once you lack materials required. Unlike before that you can just grind your monsters to 6*.
i have same team but 90% fail qute and i've done some test runs. Veromos and Akahamir Derp 7/10, Harvelesk Derps 6/10 Lyn Derps 3/10..... Lyn the only one that doesnt derp so hard as the others
No blue runes com2us. I'm super mad that I built so many units to make farming easier. All of them are going to storage... Tricaru is only good for Necro now which is insane. Dot teams are dead. They did us really dirty.
Omg sean!!! They made a mistake and look like they are going to fix and lower the request for monster to rank other monster also they are going to refund all monster used and all mana used and all this info is in news Monster Evolution Cost Improvement Notice!!! You need have English language settings to see that info
Yea I'm not very im0prssed about the amount of blue runes. So it took longer then my b10 team, it was harder, used more energy. And it get a fist full of blue runes?!?!?! Give me a break, I see no point in farming this right now.
As usual Devs being Devs should just hire SeanB as their CEO at this point...... this "huge" update was just HUGE disappointment except for monster and rune progression
Last one for today it's midnight now so I will be back tomorrow with new unit testing! Happy farming guys : ) Abyss sucks haha
Swapping Loren with Jaara and got my first 36 seconds run
ty for your effort
@@Obudin thanks for watching!
@@SeanBGames I'll use Narsha for consistend def break, should work fine
bet on my way to the bank so i can go give com2us my life savings
I've been using Wind Archer Ardella to farm Elunia. F2P option, has nice damage, def break and the passive helps to cap crit.
They really need to remove blue runes from abyss
agreed
Or just remove flat runes or make it only drop like 3 runes(swift and despair and new one for example)
Imagine a world: remove blue runes from 10, flat runes from DBAN, and all flat stats from hard.
Just wait that they add Hell Abyss mode in 2 years lol
@@Alex-ik3trI can guarantee it will still has blue rune 😂😂
This is a strange update.
Runes cost more mana to upgrade.
They eliminated a few useful artifact subs.
It costs both more mana and more fodder to evolve.
The abyss dungeon has a terrible drop rate.
There are definitely some quality of life improvements, but they also made some quality of life decreases.
Hey! Just in case you didn't see the in-game notice, they are going to revert the increase to fodder needed to evolve, and refund any fodder that was used!
Runes cost nearly the same. You're supposed to upgrade to +6 or +9 before going full +12 and after to +15. You should spend on average the same mana but a fixed cost for +15 which could often be less than 1m or almost 3m and in time terms is instantly
food problem is being fixed tomorrow
@@globalgamer119tf really?? God I'm glad that is being reverted
This update complete disappointment. Thanks to give me a chance to leave a game.
Sean speedrunning the guide releasing at the speed of light
Hahhaha facts
ok, thanks for showing these. Definitely sticking to my regular giants and dragons b10 instead. The fact that these can still drop blue runes is a crime
For 10 energy and 70% extra time it doesn't seem worth. Decided. I'm doing B10. Thanks.
I would assume casual f2p players would struggle to get 1min 30 with no failures, usually even slower. With the rates and higher energy cost, its really hard to justify abyss. B10 does seem better. You can simply get a lot more runes per hour of grinding. And like many others, i havent seen a intangible rune worth keeping yet
Yep and need max towers for that run to work.
The only reasons any one would farm the new dungeon is the new rune, issue is... there is 5 others set of runes, Rune pieces, giant symbol, rainbow mons, mystics ... they will see pretty soon that not that many people will go farm this dungeon. The really need to make blue runes disapear or better make it so that the runes in Abyss are actually ancient runes instead of normal ones.
@@kannonfps most abyss runs are gonna be guys like me (midgame) trying to fing a comp that works 75% of the time. just to end up giving up and farming 1 dungeaon out of the 10s they made
one of my main concern about this new patch is the AI, there are very good monsters, lyn is great if she uses her third skill, it was a pitty they didnt do anything about AI, specially now with this new dungeons.
Thanks for the effort Sean, ur saving us
Only thing good in this update is artifact drop at max level and rune fail removed 😂
I hate that new Evolution changes
My previous guild was confused why I built 2a shannon for starter GB12 team in the past.
Now that abyss is here, Shannon becomes a great unit again for GB. 😂
Com2us basically just moved the rune drops from the old GB12 and DB12 to their Giant/Dragon Abyss equivalents, without improving the drops at all. It's the exact same - shitty - drops from GB12 and DB12. There's a table in the patch notes that illustrates exactly that. Go look at it. Why did they do it? So that you don't use Tricaru everywhere, and slow down your runs, so you keep your game open for longer (more game time). Abyss doesn't allow for dupe units, so you basically build new teams to get the exact same bad rune drops from the old GB12 and DB12. What a joke.
I wouldn't even be doing the abyss floors if it wasn't for the new event I've done 80 runes and on got 1 legendary rune, and none of the new rune set
currently working on a team including fight runes with Nephthys (L), Akhahmamir, Kro, Veromos, Savanah. Nephthys providing extreme debuffs for extreme damage increase to fast clear the boss (my issue). My Savannah AoE def break sets up the def break for Akhahmamir/Vero to clear waves with S3/S2. After mid boss, skills be up for 2nd trash wave, set it up the same way, then the boss stage Nephthys puts up the S2 debuffs, Kro/Savannah/Akhahmamir do damage based on that, and vero do vero things. Fight set on Kro, Akhahmamir and Savannah (possibly Neph), and a shield set on Vero.
So far I got half the team built and doing 1min 10 runs average with them plus less optimal units. Higher rune requirements though.
The only f2p thing about these teams are the monsters themselves. Not the runes ;-;
If u go Shannon/Roid the rune quality shouldnt be that high but i think with first team ill struggle cause lacking runes! Need to farm more gb10 or gbnormal for the beginning!
Thanks for your Effort, i love your Videos. Could you try using Bark (the whind pirate) instead of loren in your speedy team? I think he should be better and is a f2p option for people who dont have jaara or narsha. Maybe with spd/cdmg/acc and the same setup the team could go sub 1minute and is almost f2p (lyn and bark are easy to get). Would love to see you try that out. I dont have the runes to do it 😞
I like a lot jultan here, he bdef very constantly and he only does 1 hit
Is there an adequate replacement for wind Ifrit if you don’t have one yet?
Hey @SeanB , can you tell me lowest spd for overlapping (veromos)?
just quick question, does that mean i need 2x veromos 1 for drag and 1 for giant? or can the dragon one (the slower one) still work in giants
I found Jultan as a good Loren alternative for pretty consistent break def without multi hitting, if that can helps someone
Do you set up the account to set up team monsters etc for a fee of course or is there someone who does it? It's for a gift for a friend of mine who has been playing for many years like me but gets immensely bored setting up monsters
Com2us reloaded their wallets with this update 😂 (Transcendent Scoll they really had to add this to update)
Facts just to sell more packs. Very Hyped update for a very underwhelming content but amazing packs because monetization over game quality
I used Galleon instead of Loren(because 0 hits vs 3 hits hehe) from the very first run and I haven't changed it since...
My team is Sigmarus, Veromos, Galleon, Lyn, Naomi2A. It is kinda slow tho... 1:10 avg. clear time
haven't lost yet... I've probably used 3000 energy already?
After a bunch of testing i converged on tthis team
sigmarus (lead), bernard, galleon, vero, shamman
with low EU G1 runes it averages about 1:05 and so far failed 2x in 170 runs - both runs were just super unlucky with AI and resists.
But i dont feel like its worth farming over B10 for most people.
It needs pretty high rune quality and most of the units are not really usable outside of PVE on those builds.
I can speedrun all the b10 and R5 with around 15 decently runed monsters - but these abyssal floors require weird garbage, so its going to bump it up by like 5 more pretty good rage sets.
Wouldn't the water dungeon team work , with marble and dark magic knight , sigmarus galleon and lyn?
Lets find it out
Droprates/quality aren't supposed to be higher in the abyssI IIRC, you just get a chance of getting the new rune.
the new runes BARELY drop too
That would be dumb
bro said relatable runes most mons have over 250-270 speed along with other stats most
while nearly all nukers are 200+ cd near 100 cr and 180 speed most people only have 2 sets that can replicate those stats for beginners
Whats the point of abyss if the drop rate same as before the only different its harder
Couldn't agree with you more. I had over 500ms. 40 ld over 30 legend scrolls. I got literally nothing. 2 of the new 4 stars. I guess that's something. Now I auto farm and come back to blue runes. Lmao. Com2us missed the mark completely.
what if i dont have any nat 5 ? besides veromos
I don't really like the update, com2us screwed up the level up circle and a couple other things, but I like the runes update and I like the events that's it
I still prefer doing B10 while Abyss still drop Blue runes,because really saving more time
Still Angelmon 2* drops?
What is the difference between normal and hard in terms oft drop rate?
I feel like the droprate still the same, run 50 still getting a lot of blue runes but dungeon run is longer than b10
1% more drop rate 😂😂
Just make it all purple+ 6* runes in Abyss 12 and it’s the best update of all time.
For now it’s just meh. We get less Mana by selling runes, ur requires more mana to upgrade them, like every change where I hoped they do something exciting just turned out to be very meh..
So Julie Kyle not working on abyss ?
i use a F2P team : Cheonpung Savannah Momo Riley Naomi. U just need to drop Naomi to complete the team
thats very F2P team btw.
@@Diopside. it's the point
So, for the abyss dungeons, I see so many F2P teams. As I understand it's for everyone and new players, but is there any non F2p teams that work?
Anyone knows how the monster powerup does? I still get confused
they need to remove rune crafting material 90% of the runes you craft with them craft into 5 star runes.. like i’m grinding something that only gives 6 star runes but the rune crafting putty system gives 5 stars lol?
Most of the failed runs are lyn dying on the first counter. 20k hp doesnt seem to work
How is Lyn f2p
Would change loren with galleone, he has no multi hit but good absorb and defense break and you will always have atk buff with galleone and wind bk… thx for your videos, love watching you play sw✌🏻
Its fun to craft speed team and all, but looking at the drop rates I just take a team that works decently and do the event and will go back to regular farming. Abyss is shit for now (hopefully the drops will be improved)
what happened to dot teams?
Abyss bosses are immune to DoTs
What about drunken máster (wind) heals+anticrit buff
he offers too little damage + not a whole of safety
Shannon + roid already cover almost everything you need
At this point we have really good nat 5 so we want a team or a unit that performs super well here
Threw a Deborah in there and lyn suddenly hits for 350,000 with brand def break and no atk buff. Not much faster tho cuz her ai is still booty, average around 1min 10sec and best record at 46sec rn
This update was a hard nerf to the game experience overall. Kind of sad. I just returned a month and a half ago and now i'm kind of like... ehhh....
Same, I just returned about a month ago after 3 years of not playing. This update reminded me why I lost interest in the first place.
You can't put dots on the boss anymore....
This update they literally gave with 1 hand and ripped double out of your other. Scam2us tricked us
Sooo amazing drop for 10 enegy just woooow, its worth! ( ofc - no its trush)
I can probably use sigmarus here after an eternity on storage.
gila kurang dari 1 menit.. 👍👍👍
Hey guys I tried sweeping though the comments before I posted but around 9 min Sean suggests a team that has Riley and Kro, does anyone have any exp with this team with Shannon instead? I am a couple of days in and was thinking of doing Vero, Shannon, Kro, Roid, and Naomi. I will have to prolly save abyss runs until I can 2A everyone but again I just wanted a direction to build my account instead of switching around the team. I currently don't have a wind aoe unit :(
For defbreak against Giant i have Ritesh instead of Loren and he def buff on team in the mean time
My teams runes aren’t as strong so I do the first team but with veros hp lead instead and it’s been working great so far
I think they kind of messed up monster evolution. It is a lot harder to 6* monster now once you lack materials required. Unlike before that you can just grind your monsters to 6*.
My Zerath Jaara tem for gb12 wokrs fine in a(N)
18 sek best and 20 avg.
abyss hard on the other hand is a different story
Farming was already a chore, now it's just painful.
I expect them to make a Giant Abyss Hell Stage where blue runes cant drop
I still will only farm GB10
i feel garbage at the game due to the fact ive been playing this game for years and your runes are better than mine lol
I've stopped playing the high levels.. I noticed when I play like B8.. I get legendary at least 2 out of 10.. ^ ^'
W seanB keeping it real
i have same team but 90% fail qute and i've done some test runs. Veromos and Akahamir Derp 7/10, Harvelesk Derps 6/10 Lyn Derps 3/10..... Lyn the only one that doesnt derp so hard as the others
I would love streamers to show a non-farmable team.
Copie las minas runas y no lo paso no entiendo cosas q no lo entiendo😢
Well, I'll keep farming b10 until they fix the drop or remove blue runes
No blue runes com2us. I'm super mad that I built so many units to make farming easier. All of them are going to storage... Tricaru is only good for Necro now which is insane. Dot teams are dead. They did us really dirty.
Yea if I were to farm this they gotta remove blue runes from drops in abyss hard
i build this team and it has like 95% fail quote and the runes are almost the same, exept i have more crit damege and more HP on my units....
lyn is back again for giant
Can finally dust off the Lyn storage defender
Omg sean!!! They made a mistake and look like they are going to fix and lower the request for monster to rank other monster also they are going to refund all monster used and all mana used and all this info is in news Monster Evolution Cost Improvement Notice!!! You need have English language settings to see that info
Yea I'm not very im0prssed about the amount of blue runes. So it took longer then my b10 team, it was harder, used more energy. And it get a fist full of blue runes?!?!?! Give me a break, I see no point in farming this right now.
This is better to use other monsters, they should rly ban the tricaru and dots team its boring and easy
Why you need Fun and Hard in farming.....aren't easy and boring is the best way...just use auto and then play other content lmao
Great vid but... not everything has the runes you have (f2p). So its really a hit or miss
i can understand no more tricur but not letting us use a Dot team come on can your still giving us blue rune -_-
i use the same team but instead of loren i use Belladeon... is way more safer
Bro like i just watch the dragons video
Ok i will replace roid with nepthyst 🙏🏻
1st frame of the video , 4 blue runes xD ain't no way i'm farming this shit
We dont have god teir runes bro
i just fed all my akhamir to veromos ) ;
they should just take epic seven example and remove fodder system
I hare thst Akhamamir has 1 more point of hp that makes the hp stat go 11111
You talked a lot but didn't even show the 246 stats.
As usual Devs being Devs should just hire SeanB as their CEO at this point...... this "huge" update was just HUGE disappointment except for monster and rune progression
Hate some changes done like many
That's why I don't farm abyss not because it's so hard I don't spend my time abyss my energy waisting that's and also drop stupid poor game 😢
Yes rare runes in abyss is a disgrace
lemme see sum nonf2p w sum specific 5s to use
Thx! ❤
Lushen, Wind Bk, Veromos, loren and mephisto gg easy
you can use Lyn as well if you dont have mephisto
Wind demon is good
I was so disappointed of the rewards quality. I spend the day farming the bg10
Or atleast remove flat stat drops
I mean literally any decent unit will make this F2P if your talking about unit the runes are what separates it lmao