I've been feeding fermented feeds to my birds forever... i learned it from my grandma way back and they absolutely prefer it and will gobble it up first before heading over to the dry feeder i have for free choice... a few tricks I've learned along the way is that the chickens will also drink that water so don't dump it out, and also save about a Qt. of it and add it to the next batch to jump start the process... also a good way to jump start your first batch is to use a packet of dry yeast, a tub (pt. size) of plain or vanilla yogurt, or about a cup of apple cider vinegar
My chickens love my "mash". I haven't waited long enough for it to ferment. I've heard it referred to hydrated food as opposed to fermented. Sometimes I just add water to the powdery crumbs that are left at the bottom of their feeding dish, and they eat every single bit. I don't want to make all their food into mash because I think it feels them before they get enough nourishment. I'm definitely going to try fermenting, though. Thank you.
how long it last after fermented??.....in our country, we fermented forage or other green leafy vegetable to feed animal.....and it lasted a month by putting salt and sugar
At 12:00, Lol, and it's certainly easier to see there how the chickens get a fuller belly. Makes sense now to always ferment the food. ps at 14:00, that's a great visual of what our intestines do if food sits in there too long!
With chick starter or layer I always put a plate on top to help hold the feed under the water and you definitely have to use less feed in buckets due to the swelling of the mash. But a plate does help.
You save way more getting your grains by the tone and getting them crushed. You just get 6 barrels to store it. Don't do fermentation to save. Its beneficial for the chickens. But feed both ways.
@@ozarkshomesteadandfarmdid you get an answer to this question? I give probiotic caps to my dogs I’m wondering if i can open one of those and put it in the feed? And you don’t just exclusively feed scratch grains I’m assuming? I had much better luck with fermenting the scratch grains but that’s not enough protein for them- the pellets I did just turned into slop. And what do you do with the water after you’ve fed them the food?
@@jndazzle You might think that probiotics would be safe for all animals however chickens and humans have different digestive systems with that being said I don’t know if it would be unsafe for them so I just never really went that route.
@@melodyclark4347 chickens eat 1/4 lb per day or approximately 1.5 lbs a week…… with that info I would start with fermenting 2 or 3 lbs of dry feed and see how much they eat……I’m fermenting approximately 10lbs dry feed daily……I also have more videos on the topic.
Saves 10% not 25% plus your still going to want crushed dry grains for extra eating. Both ways give different nutrients. But i do most of there daily intake in fermented fashion.
you don't need to keep the feed mixed to release gasses in feed like that. dude... you need to do proper research before telling people what to and don't have to do. telling them to stir their ferments is just wasting people's time and making their lives more difficult. just don't over fill the buckets.
I have read many articles and seen many videos and all recommend starting to feed at least three times per day as for me I did it to follow those instructions and also my own observations as without stirring the feed rises to the top and gets pushed out of the water. Steering may not be needed for the fermenting process to take place but I found it necessary to keep the feed under the water.
Why on earth would you want to ferment your feed? You’re turning the sugars in the feed to alcohol, which means you’re depriving the animals of carbohydrates. Additionally, you’re feeding them alcohol. It could explain why they eat it so readily though, you’ve turned them into alcoholic chooks. This is the silliest thing I’ve seen in a long time.
It’s great for the birds…… it’s not like fermenting to make alcohol…..it’s more like kombucha…..I’m no scientist or do I have it analyzed but it’s a tried and true practice that has been used for years with great results.
Kombucha generally has an alcohol content of 0.5%. They keep the alcohol content low when making kombucha by stopped the fermentation process early. I’ve never fermented my chook food but I’ve fermented plenty of grain to make beer or for distillation, and if you allow your fermentation to go for three days you’ll get a much higher alcohol content than 0.5%, particularly with the pellets. The pellets you fermented had the look of advanced fermentation. The grain was fermenting a lot slower, probably because the starches in the grain had not been converted to sugars prior to fermentation. So to ensure you don’t get too much alcohol, I’d stop fermentation of the pellets after 1 day. The grain can go a little longer. To stop fermentation you’ll need to drain the liquor and chill the solids. Chilling will also stop the growth of mould. I’m watching your bee vids now, you’ve got your hands full there too!!
@@shanejarvis1108 let’s put this to rest…….there is no alcohol in it…..the process is lactic acid fermentation, the process that produces alcohol is ethanol fermentation. However if I get a drunk and disorderly call I’ll let you know.
@@ozarkshomesteadandfarm yeah fair call, I did find a paper comparing feed fermentation, feed soaking and no treatment being fed to groups of hens. The fermented food had a 9% increase in production over dry feed. The soaked feed actually had a decrease in production. The point of the paper was to determine if it was economically viable for commercial farms to use fermented food. The trade off is the extra labour to prepare the fermented food, so I guess each farm would have to do their own analysis, as labour costs vary from country to country and within countries. Anyway, I understand the aim is lactic acid fermentation, but how is ethanol fermentation prevented? The feed has sugars, and one of the yeasts used is also used in ethanol fermentation. I’m not against it just curious as to how fermentation is limited.
@@shanejarvis1108 your obviously very intelligent, I just did it off info from others and results I’m seeing…… you did spark my interest a lot with the soaked food comment because I have noticed a decrease in most likely that’s because of the drop in temperature and not getting to the fermentation process. At this time of year I might be just feeding soaked food.I’m thinking about bringing indoors to maintain proper temperature
I've been feeding fermented feeds to my birds forever... i learned it from my grandma way back and they absolutely prefer it and will gobble it up first before heading over to the dry feeder i have for free choice... a few tricks I've learned along the way is that the chickens will also drink that water so don't dump it out, and also save about a Qt. of it and add it to the next batch to jump start the process... also a good way to jump start your first batch is to use a packet of dry yeast, a tub (pt. size) of plain or vanilla yogurt, or about a cup of apple cider vinegar
Those bags are $26-30 here in Hilo, Hawaii! it's so crazy! I've got around 60 chickens and 3 ducks.
Everything is expensive in Hawaii……..the price of paradise
My chickens love my "mash". I haven't waited long enough for it to ferment. I've heard it referred to hydrated food as opposed to fermented. Sometimes I just add water to the powdery crumbs that are left at the bottom of their feeding dish, and they eat every single bit. I don't want to make all their food into mash because I think it feels them before they get enough nourishment. I'm definitely going to try fermenting, though. Thank you.
I love your experiment it 's going to help me a lot thank you
I m from Uganda
Wow……Uganda……that’s amazing, I’m glad I could help!
how long it last after fermented??.....in our country, we fermented forage or other green leafy vegetable to feed animal.....and it lasted a month by putting salt and sugar
It’s best to feed quickly…… I have another video on how to feed daily…….but I would say no more than a week before it molds
@@ozarkshomesteadandfarm , i see, thank u
Thanks for this. I have learned a lot, from Kenya
So awesome to have Kenya on board!!!!!
At 12:00, Lol, and it's certainly easier to see there how the chickens get a fuller belly. Makes sense now to always ferment the food. ps at 14:00, that's a great visual of what our intestines do if food sits in there too long!
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With chick starter or layer I always put a plate on top to help hold the feed under the water and you definitely have to use less feed in buckets due to the swelling of the mash. But a plate does help.
Wow, excellent tip thanks for sharing and I appreciate the subscription
Thanks. Do you add anything in the water used for fermenting?
I dont
farmented feed can i use in winter season?
Yes
You save way more getting your grains by the tone and getting them crushed. You just get 6 barrels to store it. Don't do fermentation to save. Its beneficial for the chickens. But feed both ways.
I live in a cold climate in the winter months wouldn't the feed just freeze in this case ?
I have a video, in my chicken stuff playlist called fermenting feed in winter. But usually I only feed enough for them to eat before it freezes
Thanks 👍 good
How often can I feed my chickens with fermented feeds
Same as you would normal feed
Florida sun is different. I got to that point in 24hrs . Three days and it was moldy
Yup, heat is a factor…..it’s cooling off here so I might have to go to 4 days……..Florida, jealous I am, would love to grow all the tropicals
It’s more so when it’s done bubbling and remember to keep it all submerged, air contact will cause it to mold quickly
@@ozarkshomesteadandfarm i was told to mix it up 2x a day
@@onemoredoll5791 that should be fine
Always add a probiotic capsule to it with fermentation. It doubles the vitamins and minerals the chickens absorb!
Wow, great advice, are we talking ones for us or is there a special chicken capsule?
@@ozarkshomesteadandfarmdid you get an answer to this question? I give probiotic caps to my dogs I’m wondering if i can open one of those and put it in the feed? And you don’t just exclusively feed scratch grains I’m assuming? I had much better luck with fermenting the scratch grains but that’s not enough protein for them- the pellets I did just turned into slop.
And what do you do with the water after you’ve fed them the food?
@@jndazzle I did not, and yes scratch and whole grains ferment better than pellets.
@@ozarkshomesteadandfarm thanks ao much- maybe I’ll pick up the packets of probiotics at Tractor supply at least i know they’re chicken safe
@@jndazzle You might think that probiotics would be safe for all animals however chickens and humans have different digestive systems with that being said I don’t know if it would be unsafe for them so I just never really went that route.
The rooster was like hmmmm...oh yummy i like this 😅
Will quail eat this?
How did the chickens do eating it? Did any of it go bad since you made so much?
They ate it just fine, none went bad, I used it up in a day!
A Day !? I have 7 hens and a rooster. How much do they need per day? I like this process.
@@melodyclark4347 chickens eat 1/4 lb per day or approximately 1.5 lbs a week…… with that info I would start with fermenting 2 or 3 lbs of dry feed and see how much they eat……I’m fermenting approximately 10lbs dry feed daily……I also have more videos on the topic.
@@ozarkshomesteadandfarm Thank you so much. Thats a good starting point. God bless you.
@@ozarkshomesteadandfarm This seems like a full-time job!
can we feed these process to broilers?
Absolutely yes you can and should
Saves 10% not 25% plus your still going to want crushed dry grains for extra eating. Both ways give different nutrients. But i do most of there daily intake in fermented fashion.
CAN YOU DO THIS WITH LAY MASH ??
Absolutely
how is their body their gain more weight sir? i subscribe to you sir i like poultry farming easy and less stress keep it up..😁😁😁
Yes it does increase weight. My birds are all around healthier
"Gnarls" is exactly what I would've said lol
Give me ur feeds mixing plsss.
Not sure what your asking, it’s just commercial layer pellet.
Hello, I from Bangladesh. Pls boylier fermantation feed
Bangladesh! Fantastic but I’m not sure what your asking….comment in your language and I can translate if it helps you
Avoid Purina like the plague. Class action lawsuit to come.
Wow, thanks for the info!
you don't need to keep the feed mixed to release gasses in feed like that. dude... you need to do proper research before telling people what to and don't have to do. telling them to stir their ferments is just wasting people's time and making their lives more difficult. just don't over fill the buckets.
I have read many articles and seen many videos and all recommend starting to feed at least three times per day as for me I did it to follow those instructions and also my own observations as without stirring the feed rises to the top and gets pushed out of the water. Steering may not be needed for the fermenting process to take place but I found it necessary to keep the feed under the water.
Why on earth would you want to ferment your feed? You’re turning the sugars in the feed to alcohol, which means you’re depriving the animals of carbohydrates. Additionally, you’re feeding them alcohol. It could explain why they eat it so readily though, you’ve turned them into alcoholic chooks. This is the silliest thing I’ve seen in a long time.
It’s great for the birds…… it’s not like fermenting to make alcohol…..it’s more like kombucha…..I’m no scientist or do I have it analyzed but it’s a tried and true practice that has been used for years with great results.
Kombucha generally has an alcohol content of 0.5%. They keep the alcohol content low when making kombucha by stopped the fermentation process early. I’ve never fermented my chook food but I’ve fermented plenty of grain to make beer or for distillation, and if you allow your fermentation to go for three days you’ll get a much higher alcohol content than 0.5%, particularly with the pellets. The pellets you fermented had the look of advanced fermentation. The grain was fermenting a lot slower, probably because the starches in the grain had not been converted to sugars prior to fermentation. So to ensure you don’t get too much alcohol, I’d stop fermentation of the pellets after 1 day. The grain can go a little longer. To stop fermentation you’ll need to drain the liquor and chill the solids. Chilling will also stop the growth of mould. I’m watching your bee vids now, you’ve got your hands full there too!!
@@shanejarvis1108 let’s put this to rest…….there is no alcohol in it…..the process is lactic acid fermentation, the process that produces alcohol is ethanol fermentation. However if I get a drunk and disorderly call I’ll let you know.
@@ozarkshomesteadandfarm yeah fair call, I did find a paper comparing feed fermentation, feed soaking and no treatment being fed to groups of hens. The fermented food had a 9% increase in production over dry feed. The soaked feed actually had a decrease in production. The point of the paper was to determine if it was economically viable for commercial farms to use fermented food. The trade off is the extra labour to prepare the fermented food, so I guess each farm would have to do their own analysis, as labour costs vary from country to country and within countries.
Anyway, I understand the aim is lactic acid fermentation, but how is ethanol fermentation prevented? The feed has sugars, and one of the yeasts used is also used in ethanol fermentation. I’m not against it just curious as to how fermentation is limited.
@@shanejarvis1108 your obviously very intelligent, I just did it off info from others and results I’m seeing…… you did spark my interest a lot with the soaked food comment because I have noticed a decrease in most likely that’s because of the drop in temperature and not getting to the fermentation process. At this time of year I might be just feeding soaked food.I’m thinking about bringing indoors to maintain proper temperature
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