I think Loki deserves a 5 star difficulty. With the other characters, you've mastered them once you're able to get the best value out of THEIR moveset. With Loki, you can only claim to have mastered him once you can get the best value out of EVERY CHARACTER IN THE GAME's movesets.
@@TheFarslayer I concur. But Loki's ult duration is long for a reason; it's meant to outlast the other ults so you get time with the actual character, and hence, needing to somewhat master them to get maximum value.
I think the star system is more about how difficult it is to get the hang of a character rather than how difficult it is to master them. For example, even if you don't know every character's abilities, you can still get some good use out of Loki, meanwhile, with Spiderman, if you haven't mastered that character, it's very hard to get any value from him.
Loki was definitely the first support character I fell in love with. I think he’s strong but not nearly as strong as some of the other healers, and in comparison he has to work MUCH harder to achieve what they can.. The biggest flaw in his kit by a wide margin is the fact he’s pretty awful when it comes to flying characters, both teammates and opponents. When other characters can just shoot in the direction to heal or simply press a button, Loki has to play Aim trainer to try and hit the MANY champions that can fly/float/swing etc.. I have found this to be really, really annoying and has caused me to play him less and less
@@jamisketches6302if you can't pop clones in the middle of a battle then Loki is not for you. His whole kit is useful. From running to healing to dps. Need to have at least 1 clone at all time to multiply healing and damage.
The invisibility have unlimited timer, it only go off if you fire, use other abilities and and touching the enemies, while in this you are completely invisible to the enemy team but they still can detect you because somehow your footstep is as loud as a gunshot sound
You didn't mention damage taken in the regen domain literally converts damage into healing, so you are healing your allies AND they are invulnerable. Even a single shot accidentally sunk into an enemy the second the domain is placed will have negative value for the enemy, since it heals instead.
Important note for regeneration field. It doesn't just heal, it converts incoming damage into healing. For example, Spider-Man ult killed because it also broke the domain first. Scarlet Witch and Iron Man ults on the other hand, only have one hit, so they would do no damage aside from breaking the runes.
one thing I love doing with tanks on my team playing as loki is whenever they get low and I’m a fair distance from them I can throw a clone on top of them and use the regen domain so they get healed by the extra bullets from the clone and myself and the domain and continue fighting
i play Loki like Heimerdinger, i spam as many clones as i can in a big triangle usually, and then just rain the battle with my staff.. unless you get sniped you'll barely take damage the whole time, and for some reason most people don't kill the stationary clones so sometimes i'll just stand there and the enemies will run past
A warning about copying an enemy Peni Parker: she has a highly spammable stun move in her right-click, and you're a big, slow target while activating her ultimate. If they're good, they will stun you as you trigger the ultimate, wasting it.
You can also use your duplicates to heal your team/damage enemies at angles that give you full cover, only downside is you don't get the healing/damage from your shots only the duplicates. Also since duplicates remain after you die you can still heal your team while coming back feom spawn as long as you have duplicates arouns them
A couple things! I’ve been playing Loki p hard. The splash dmg! His hits are splash and can heal teammates at the same time as doing dmg to enemies so if your team and the opp team fist fighting it out just shoot into the crowd. And the backstab and wayyyy better than i thought. If they have a healer or anyone other than a tank you can almost 1 shot people with the back stab, pop 2 clones behind them (during invisible) and you can triple back stab since your clones copy your moves!
Loki is the first character I started consistently winning with, so looks like he’s my main. He’s somehow both a very spammy character as well as a carefully strategic one.
OK, so if you wanna go crazy with Loki place your clones first mostly by your teammates, then you wanna go invisible try to get by their top person on the other team hit your regeneration, then backstab or flip it
There ist an achievement where you have to kill someone via Backstab. I got that Like in my First two rounds or so as loki. I really really Love playing him.
I started this game as Venom, because, well…. Venom. Sadly Tank doesn’t seem to be right for me. I can keep myself alive well enough, but I don’t get many kills, granted, 40 hours isn’t a lot in a game like this. With Loki however, 5 hours in and I’ve gotten an MVP and more kills per game than with Venom. So I think my path is clear.
I only play qp so sometimes i get teams where im the only one healing which means i get constantly dived, so i normally leave one copy behind and i can escape that way, i guess its not optimal but hey, sometimes you get very new players in your games that dont turn around so thats the only choice you have. also also i main star lord as well so there's nothing better than just copying him and get his ult, it feels awesome xd
I played Loki because i got fckd over and over while againts Loki, and as boomer (43yo) i realized i couldnt compete with the younger movement and combo. So i tried Loki, just to supporting my team and i realized Loki copy could do the damage and heal too 🤯🤯🤯. My only strugle with Loki are his Ult, i need to learned all of other popular Hero ult .
Hey si mi wifi is good on every other game(fortnite, overwatch, Ark) but I lag a lot and get disconnected from almost every game also it takes like 3 minutes to load into a game its just at 99% for 3 minutes, I have graphics and everything of that kn low
What would be different between Sylvie and Loki? TV Loki sylvie or comic Sylvie? I think it's more probable that the next female Asgardian characters we would get is Enchantress, Mighty Thor, or Valkyrie(Jane or Brunhilde)
Enemies can't see you in deceoption mode unless you take any damage, you shoot or you walk into them. You're completely invisible to enemies otherwise. The video is wrong.
I think Loki deserves a 5 star difficulty. With the other characters, you've mastered them once you're able to get the best value out of THEIR moveset. With Loki, you can only claim to have mastered him once you can get the best value out of EVERY CHARACTER IN THE GAME's movesets.
9/10 you use copy for a free ult and not for the hero’s moveset hence why star lord and iron man are rlly good copies
@@TheFarslayer I concur. But Loki's ult duration is long for a reason; it's meant to outlast the other ults so you get time with the actual character, and hence, needing to somewhat master them to get maximum value.
@@chazzerine7650I agree char that require you to know the rest of the cast are usually the hardest in the game imo.
I think the star system is more about how difficult it is to get the hang of a character rather than how difficult it is to master them. For example, even if you don't know every character's abilities, you can still get some good use out of Loki, meanwhile, with Spiderman, if you haven't mastered that character, it's very hard to get any value from him.
@@TheFarslayerloki use the entire move set of alk characters except the team combos
One thing I don't think you mentioned, but while invisible you regen HP.
you know... I totally forgot about that I play mostly rank where my other friend would heal me if needed
so I hardly notice it
@@JaeeCyn I've sometimes had a hard time with getting heals on a dive and it can be a lifesaver.
ty for this playing as lone support is rough sometimes
Loki was definitely the first support character I fell in love with. I think he’s strong but not nearly as strong as some of the other healers, and in comparison he has to work MUCH harder to achieve what they can..
The biggest flaw in his kit by a wide margin is the fact he’s pretty awful when it comes to flying characters, both teammates and opponents. When other characters can just shoot in the direction to heal or simply press a button, Loki has to play Aim trainer to try and hit the MANY champions that can fly/float/swing etc.. I have found this to be really, really annoying and has caused me to play him less and less
yeah i wish it was a beam like adam warlocks. thats the main reason why i havent tried to play loki lol
Really, I find it super easy to hit almost any target when you have 3 lokis all firing at the same time.
@@panampace Can't always have all clones up sometimes though when in middle of battle
@@jamisketches6302if you can't pop clones in the middle of a battle then Loki is not for you. His whole kit is useful. From running to healing to dps. Need to have at least 1 clone at all time to multiply healing and damage.
I agree 100% with the flyers! I can’t heal a swinging venom or another Ironman that’s just above me for the life of me before dying
I found use of the backstab… I got an achievement for killing someone with it. Haven’t used it since lol
You can place a copy behind an enemy and melee than your copy will backstab him or you just teleport and than go invisible and backstab with your copy
good idea!
I should do that! Thanks (I’ve had some near misses with backstab where I hit their front instead)
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Heya….
This is the best time to make guides, good work my friend.
Glad you like them!
people were moving too much or turning as i was melee killing them so i never got a backstab kill
I don’t even know when or how I got one lmao
@@Spyanter2000 someone probably saw you coming at low health and tried to dip (unsuccessfully)
Love it how you explained while relating to Overwatch...makes it much easier.
my heart fluttered when he said im actually allowed to waste abilitys unlike in overwatch i promise im not crying
this is the first guide I clicked ever and now i don't need another guide cus you explained every character! :D
Amazing guide, I was playing him completely wrong and losing but I love him
This is a great guide for me, just started playing Loki today.
Dope guide
Appreciate it
Got a friend who’s gonna playLoki. Ty for this!
glad I could help!
Dude automatic sub. The depth that you went into is insane. Can’t wait to play this game!
For scarlets ult, you can go into the her bubble move and hide till the ult is done.
Thanks for this super Loki guide! I want to ask you if you can do a advanced Loki guide as announced too?
Great bonus at the end! Love shit like that!
Those who stick till the end always should be rewarded thanks for watching 🎉
Where did you get these skins?????
The invisibility have unlimited timer, it only go off if you fire, use other abilities and and touching the enemies, while in this you are completely invisible to the enemy team but they still can detect you because somehow your footstep is as loud as a gunshot sound
You didn't mention damage taken in the regen domain literally converts damage into healing, so you are healing your allies AND they are invulnerable. Even a single shot accidentally sunk into an enemy the second the domain is placed will have negative value for the enemy, since it heals instead.
Important note for regeneration field. It doesn't just heal, it converts incoming damage into healing. For example, Spider-Man ult killed because it also broke the domain first. Scarlet Witch and Iron Man ults on the other hand, only have one hit, so they would do no damage aside from breaking the runes.
great video this makes me much more confident to play loki
loki is so chaotic and i love him
I got my code can’t wait to play 🎉🎉
one thing I love doing with tanks on my team playing as loki is whenever they get low and I’m a fair distance from them I can throw a clone on top of them and use the regen domain so they get healed by the extra bullets from the clone and myself and the domain and continue fighting
i play Loki like Heimerdinger, i spam as many clones as i can in a big triangle usually, and then just rain the battle with my staff.. unless you get sniped you'll barely take damage the whole time, and for some reason most people don't kill the stationary clones so sometimes i'll just stand there and the enemies will run past
YES I literally said this last night, setting up like Heimerdinger and it all became so familiar
i got the backstab achievement my first game on Loki and I was lowkey pleased
Got my acceptance! Can't wait to play it 😮
Same
@Berry-in could one of yall gimme a code please?🙏
Do the 3 healing circles stack healing? Is that what you meant by invulnerable?
A warning about copying an enemy Peni Parker: she has a highly spammable stun move in her right-click, and you're a big, slow target while activating her ultimate. If they're good, they will stun you as you trigger the ultimate, wasting it.
You can also use your duplicates to heal your team/damage enemies at angles that give you full cover, only downside is you don't get the healing/damage from your shots only the duplicates. Also since duplicates remain after you die you can still heal your team while coming back feom spawn as long as you have duplicates arouns them
"your not completely invisible" me walking in front of the enemys.
So there blind got it
I believe they changed it either it was a glitch in the beta so they can’t see you anymore but can’t hear loud footsteps
A couple things! I’ve been playing Loki p hard.
The splash dmg! His hits are splash and can heal teammates at the same time as doing dmg to enemies so if your team and the opp team fist fighting it out just shoot into the crowd. And the backstab and wayyyy better than i thought.
If they have a healer or anyone other than a tank you can almost 1 shot people with the back stab, pop 2 clones behind them (during invisible) and you can triple back stab since your clones copy your moves!
the backstab move is now gonna be my playstyle imma flank with him now
hey jay its me john falgoni i got a backstab thanks for the movement speed pal!
good job!
Loki is so cool
Loki is the first character I started consistently winning with, so looks like he’s my main. He’s somehow both a very spammy character as well as a carefully strategic one.
If you die and have clones up fire away while running back. You may get some heals or dps in.
Can confirm playing against 2 storm ultimates is the worst 😂
That move is ridiculous
Absaloutly brilliant vid keep up the great work
Thanks, will do!
How’d you get that president loki skin?
AINT NO WAY I ACTUALLY GOT A BACKSTAB! GIVE ME MY HEART RN
how did you get your skin?
things idk if its new to the beta but when you turn invisible its actually healing you as well
How’d you get that Skin?
OK, so if you wanna go crazy with Loki place your clones first mostly by your teammates, then you wanna go invisible try to get by their top person on the other team hit your regeneration, then backstab or flip it
Loki's right click does make him invisible for the other team
Can the beta already be played?
You can start playing july 23rd idk your time zone but it starts at 3pm pdt
@@Mathew2009m okay thanks
Where I can get that skin??????
What do you mean with Beta?
Where Is that skin from?
beta
There ist an achievement where you have to kill someone via Backstab. I got that Like in my First two rounds or so as loki. I really really Love playing him.
They nerfed his base healing and damage output by 50% 🫠🫠
I saw. I was able to apply these tips in this video but yeah the number different is insane. They saw my guide and said yeah let’s nerf him 😏
how do you get the president skin
it will come out later
Loki is a support The Morrigan from smite basically
where do i get that loki skin wtf that ones dope
TOMORROWWWWWWW
I didn't get a code I AM SAD AS FK I LITERALLY SIGNED IN FIRST DAY😭
@@worldgameplay1905you can still get them
I started this game as Venom, because, well…. Venom. Sadly Tank doesn’t seem to be right for me. I can keep myself alive well enough, but I don’t get many kills, granted, 40 hours isn’t a lot in a game like this.
With Loki however, 5 hours in and I’ve gotten an MVP and more kills per game than with Venom. So I think my path is clear.
I only play qp so sometimes i get teams where im the only one healing which means i get constantly dived, so i normally leave one copy behind and i can escape that way, i guess its not optimal but hey, sometimes you get very new players in your games that dont turn around so thats the only choice you have. also also i main star lord as well so there's nothing better than just copying him and get his ult, it feels awesome xd
I played Loki because i got fckd over and over while againts Loki, and as boomer (43yo) i realized i couldnt compete with the younger movement and combo.
So i tried Loki, just to supporting my team and i realized Loki copy could do the damage and heal too 🤯🤯🤯.
My only strugle with Loki are his Ult, i need to learned all of other popular Hero ult .
Hey si mi wifi is good on every other game(fortnite, overwatch, Ark) but I lag a lot and get disconnected from almost every game also it takes like 3 minutes to load into a game its just at 99% for 3 minutes, I have graphics and everything of that kn low
He plays a lot like Set from Smite.
I got a backstab, it is easier during conquest mode to do it
Well wish he had time slipping powers from loki series
I didnt played the alpha but i bet ill pass 300 hours in the beta or even more with loki
I don't understand, you become invisible but the enemy can still see you?
It’s not full invisibility, it’s like partially transparent
Metal slug music in the back😂
the loki that moves is the real one, so guessing isn't really mandatory here^^ ;-)
soo spy from tf2 but can heal teammates
How to get in I did apply for play test on steam but it's not a sure thing :/, btw like the metal slug music playing.
The only good thing about backstab is to get achivement
I hope we get a Sylvie character (NOT SKIN)
We probably won’t or at least not for a while
What would be different between Sylvie and Loki? TV Loki sylvie or comic Sylvie?
I think it's more probable that the next female Asgardian characters we would get is Enchantress, Mighty Thor, or Valkyrie(Jane or Brunhilde)
Would be nice if we could play the game
i got a backstab and got an achievement lol
my favorite thing to do is copy jeff and just take my own team off map :3
I GOT A BACKSTAB :P
It’s a shame his ultimate is to copy another character’s moveset. That would’ve been a perfect skill for Rogue.
Ehhh, Rouge doesn't BECOME who she gets her powers from
Loki is shapeshifter, so this ult fits there. Rogue, on the other hand, could get skill of tf2 spy.
Enemies can't see you in deceoption mode unless you take any damage, you shoot or you walk into them. You're completely invisible to enemies otherwise. The video is wrong.
if anyone has a spare EU ps5 code I'd be really greatful
also got my pc code loki gonna be my main strat or adam worlock
Anyone have a spare ps5 NA code? I’d be so grateful.
Still need it?
Yes@@jakecarroll4603
@@jakecarroll4603I need one
glorp
tried to backstab an ulting punisher, barley missed and instantly regretted it
Your last tip was a joke. Thats loki. Clip maker not some trying to help.
Moment when i saw his kit i realised he is fusion of Spy and Medic from TF2
"The dime a dozen backstabbing scumbag"
I guess u found my main
I honestly think anyone who plays him doesn’t acc like him they just like being annoying
Bro is putting the ranked symbol when ranked isn't out
rank was in Alpha... bro
This guide is so shit. "I didnt use this ability" lmao
Sb slide a code 🥲