Meet her in person she’s the most amazing inspiration. I absolutely love her she teaches womens writing workshops that will blow your mind!! she does tours she’s 74 and she still has so much energy!! Don’t miss out!!
My friends introduced me to "Sweet" Connie Hamzy around 2005. We hung out smoked a bunch and would just sit for hours listening to her stories. The stories these women/groupies could tell are endlesss and fascinating. Sadly Connie passed away last year in August. These are fond memories that I'll never forget. R.I.P Connie, you were a very interesting and special person.
I hung out with her at the TGI Fridays on Markham in Little Rock back in the day. She also was a regular at the legendary White Water Tavern because she lived in that 7th street area and was a substitute teacher! Also had a buddy that knew her as a teen in the Broadmoor area of LR. He said she was beautiful as a teen but that her mom was upset about her lifestyle until the limos started pulling up at her house to take her to the shows! Then she thought her daughter was a star!
@@madmax8949 After further reflection I think I met her in 2003 she was living in the Quapaw area. I was 19 working at the train station meeting just the most interesting people, hobos, drifters, and most importantly the train people. For those in the future reading this comment that are not from the middle of the USA. Modern train travel for most of the US not on the coast is inconvenient, expensive, and very out of the way. You have to really want to ride the train and those people are special. If you ever want a view of America most people don't see ride a train across the country if you even can anymore.
Glad to see Miss Pamela is still in stellar form. She's a great writer with a warm and engaging personality. She survived the times and lived to tell the tale. Kudos!
This is knocked out of the park. The shots, the editing, and this kind of storytelling while driving to the actual places brings it to life. Killer Mary 🤘
except when showing vintage shots - it goes in and out of focus and glare to mark the video and make it hard for others to copy clips and re - use them. I hate it. But I LOVE Miss Pamela !
What a fantastic trip down memory lane with Pamela, so many stories, and she’s telling them all with a smile on her face, which is a breath of fresh air these days.
I was around during those times, and played at the "Whiskey a Go Go" once too. At my art school bash, I had a Hendrix style trio, and the college hired another band too called, "Robert Plant and the Band of Joy". So we played support band to them. They become "Led Zeppelin" shortly afterwards. Somethings you never forget. This was a great video Mary, loved hearing all those crazy details too!
It was The Yardbirds that became Led Zeppelin. Robert Plant and John Bonham left The Band of Joy to join The New Yardbirds which then became Led Zeppelin.
@@heliotropezzz333 , thank you for that, it's good to have clarification. (Have to remember that I was in Southampton, not London, and in those days few people there even knew what these musicians looked like.) John Bonham was extraordinary though, the highpoint of their performance was his drumming. Our drummer had never heard double rapid-fire beats on a bass drum. I think it was his night more than mine or our bass player. In our second set he too was playing them. (He was seventeen, and already a genius drummer. At nineteen he was playing like Buddy Rich. Sadly died at the age of twenty one.) Thanks again Helen.
Hate to be that guy, buuuuut, I read the book. It's been a minute but from what I recall she started earlier than 16. That guy that opened the door for her and gave her a joint, he did it because she blew him. I was, like a lot of my peers, an aspiring rock star as a kid growing up. One of the reasons it was so alluring to young men was the groupies. It's grown men having sex with underage girls. She stated in the book that that is how she worked her way up the ladder, from door security, to roadie, to stage manager, to bass player, to lead guitar player and then the star singer. I think the record to get to the headliner was 14 guys. I might be under remembering the number. I mean, there were plenty of gals who would have done that, I suppose, so that means she must have been pretty good. The stories are pretty neat but she was being exploited. For every one of her, there are a multitude of strung out junkies, OD's and used up and tossed aside young ladies that were somebody's daughter. I think her story is interesting but she should not be put on some sort of pedestal just because she survived and wrote a book about it.
Agree 100%. It's hilarious how revered all these rock stars were/still are.... when in reality they were straight up Pedos. 13-14-15 year olds.... Shocking that Creepy Joe didn't become a musician.
I read through a couple hundred comments before I read yours. It’s very disheartening that everyone applauds her for being a lost soul and all the pedophiles that took advantage of her while she was a minor. Makes me think less of the musicians I was musically inspired by. While she brags about being a “famous “ groupie I’ll be praying for her soul. There will be a day of judgement.
@@bighairedmom It is common knowledge that groupies were often if not always underage. It's gross. Stop trying to rewrite history. Your favs were pedos.
Thanks, Mary, for doing this. I read "I'm With the Band" back in 1988 and loved the stories of Pamela Des Barres, Cynthia Plaster Caster, Frank Zappa, and the other big names of music at the time. Pamela seems like she could just sit and reminisce for hours without ever getting boring, which makes total sense because that's how I remember the book. I'm sure it was a real privilege for you to meet her and spend time.
It sounds like you would like to read about Frank's home life at the log cabin, not found in other books, from getting up to going to bed, composing and rehearsing with the Mothers, visiting rock stars, the GTOs and Cynthia Plaster Caster, family squabbles, and more, in 'Freak Out! My Life with Frank Zappa, Laurel Canyon 1968-1971.' I was a straight English girl, brought over to live at the log cabin to help Frank write a book on politics but I ended up managing the GTOs.
I had a friend who was a groupie in that era. Her main squeeze was Keith Emerson and riding on his motorcycle. She told how girls would literally fight over English rock stars. And that the ultimate catch was the duo of David Bowie and Iggy Pop. She said those guys would screw anything with a pulse.
I was 15 when I read this book. It was 1985 and I was just starting to discover the music of these early rock bands. Almost almost 40 years later I am still into the hippy scene, I just traveled 3 time zones for a concert last week & I met my wife on Venice Beach while we were both on tour with the Grateful Dead in the v/ early 90's. Seeing this brings back memories. At the concert I just saw, String Cheese Incident, I ran onto a friend who 35 years ago gave me a tape and told me to listen to it as I was coming down & going to sleep. It was Barton Hall, a famous live Dead show, I think it was less than a month before I saw my first show and started touring w/ them. I hadn't seen him in so long, we hugged for so long, and cried tears of joy for I owe my entire life to this man handing me that tape that night. I now live on an Island in the Pacific and run an Indigenous Woman's Organization and wellness group with my wife. My whole life is based on doing the right thing and listening to the music play as the music will always show you the light. ❤❤❤ It all started with this book and learning about hippy culture in the 60s and the music behind the scene.
Omg I’m a baby dead head I’ve seen them many times I even saw Levon helm perform for his last time at gathering of the vibes and I just discovered the string cheese incident! 🫶🏽
I have mixed emotions with these rock stars going after such very young girls, but I can understand what a thrill it would be as a teen growing up and getting to to be with these rockers.
You have those emotions cause 50 years has passed & it’s now not acceptable. At that time & long before that it was normal & anyone during that time went with it.
@@DevZant Agreed.... You were "kind of a square" if you were still a virgin at 15. It was a completely different era. Many girls greatest ambition was to get married at 16 straight out of school, and "get established" and girls who went on to college were "swots", "frumps" and "bluestockings" and thought unfeminine.. and this wasnt male pressure at all, this was female peer pressure. It was completely normal and even expected and desirable to have a lover 5 or 10 or 20 years older while you were still in your teens. In Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen set in the late 18th early 19th century, the pressure to get your daughters married *absolutely as soon as possible* illustrates the established normal, which remained right up until the late 1970s when greater access to further education and the Pill changed the pattern of women's lives completely
@@ludovica8221 seriously? Lots of things were "normal" once...having a Slave was "normal" once....women not having any rights was " normal" once...so many things were "normal"once no ? Doesn't make them right. It's pretty absurd and goes to show that that "further education "has not benefitted all.......I love these bands too but I can accept that they were amazing musicians but not amazing people...
@@Alice30254you serious? No kidding, that’s why these things where “normal” at those times. When society in a mass believes it’s normal, it’ll will be practiced that way. People educate themselves and see what’s better or worse. Slavery is still going on today as men marrying young to older teens. This isn’t normal in our mass of USA society because educating ourselves. Yet some how, most accept even disagreeing people that like the same sex. Though it is okay for a hormonal change change for teens is good. While there’s more genders than man or woman as a man can have a kid. From my standpoint, we are getting educated while manipulated. I believe most us in a mass see a common ground in humans. Then small portion asks for extreme things to knock things off balance. You think humans aren’t animals without primitive thinking and instincts locked in their minds? I don’t care how smart we get, that will always be there and never be a perfect world. Unless you want AI to take over.
Miss Pamela is an amazing person and we met her in la a few years ago and my wife bought some of her vintage clothing. She's a absolute blast and a beautiful soul.
wtf is amazing about slitting as a teenager with adult drunks and addicts? It's revolting. As a teenager she was a victim of her failed parents and those revolting rock stars. But gloating about it as an adult is just horrible. The woman literally never grew up enough to face how sad and horrible her teenage years were.
I remember reading about her in the Zappa books. That was quite a tour and she remains a tour de force. Nice to see that she's keeping so well -- she must have been selective with the drugs and/or have a robust constitution.
When I first got to Los Angeles from Massachusetts, I couldn't wait to drive down Laurel Canyon. I wanted to feel that feeling of that great time in life when music was real. I used to drive it every day to work and always let my imagination take me away with what it must have been like back in the day. Though I worked in the music business for a while, it had changed by then and not the great feel of the 60s and 70s. Oh to go back in time.
Wow! Listening to this video had me thinking how close my experience was to Pam's. I wasn't a groupie but did hang with some rockers once and a while. Even to having lived on S. Alfred Street as Pam had. My friend was screwing Mick Jagger so I got to go to some great parties. And just like you, when I moved here from Massachusetts, I too couldn't wait to go down Laurel Canyon. Oh, that street! It's lost its sheen but it's still great to go back in time traveling down it. I was born about 8 years too late to really enjoy those days here in L.A. of glorious music. I too worked at a record company, as did my sister so I went to a lot of great events and concerts. That was when the music industry was still in good financial shape. I had some great stories to tell. I feel for the kids these days because I believe the music, if you want to call it that, is so bad it's crazy.
If you like to read, or listen on audio, then try my story of living and working in Frank Zappa's log cabin in Laurel Canyon in 1968 that details the birth of the GTOs, Frank's daily home life not shown in other books, from getting up to going to bed, composing at the piano, rehearsing with the Mothers in the basement, visiting rock stars, freaks, family squabbles, and more. I was a young, straight English girl that Frank brought over to help to write a political book. The book never got written so I ended up managing the GTOs. 'Freak Out! My Life with Frank Zappa, Laurel Canyon 1968-1971.' by Pauline Butcher
This just saved a valuable part of rock-n-roll's history. Yes, she wrote a book but I had never heard of it until now. So this video just locked in some reality from the era. Thank you to everyone involved!
Another valuable part of rock history tells Frank Zappa's home life not found in other books, from getting up to going to bed, composing and rehearsing with the Mothers, visiting rock stars, GTOs and Cynthia Plaster Caster, family squabbles and more. 'Freak Out! My Life with Frank Zappa, Laurel Canyon, 1968-1971'.
What she describes is usually how it works. She definitely is the real deal. Our lives are own to construct or you can let other do it for you. She seems to have been of the mind not to wait around to be a constructor and take the ride. She has an intelligent engaging personality. Thanks for covering some of her story.
"Our lives are own to construct or you can let other do it for you." Beautifully said. I think you cut right to the heart, the main point of her story and this interview!
I was never a "groupie" per se, lol, but I had a blast hanging with so many 80s and early 90s bands and dating the rockstars, dancing for band shows then, and even up until recently am still associated through friendship and business. My stories are endless. I would never change a thing. I was 16. I'm now 49.
I have read her book, and that was an experience you won't forget for a while. I lived in the age of groupies (yeah, I am that old), and I remember all of the stories, and saw them sneaking in backstage at McNichols Arena, and Red Rocks here in Colorado. Those were some fun day's to be a photographer !
I met Jimbo backstage in Phila but she's right...he was w Pam, dang. Wasn't a rock star but I met huge crush Warren B in his hot days...he called me but I missed his call, probably for the best tho... Did date a world class celeb for a while who will remain nameless...
The great thing is...Pamela is still pretty lucid...the drugs and booze did not hurt her much...all things considered, she even still looks good for her age!
Thank you so much Mary for this fabulous video. This could have been going on for hours and I would not have been able to stop watching. Special thanks for taking us to the Zappa house on Woodrow Wilson Drive. I only was in LA once in 1994 and I didn‘t drive up there, what I regret to this day. This video contains so much music history and I enjoyed every second of it.
Glad to see Miss Pamela active and well. During her time there was still the aura of innocence and newness around rock music and its fandom. Her book is very cute and charming, and is actually well-written.
If you like to read, then try this one on Frank Zappa's home life at the log cabin when he formed the GTOs and rehearsed with the Mothers in the basement, visiting rock stars, freaks, family squabbles, and more. 'Freak Out! My Life with Frank Zappa, Laurel Canyon 1968-1971'.
What a great vid!! So fun to hear her favorite live show (and favorite music genre) was the Burrito Bros at the Whiskey. What a time in a era. What a wild child. And what a wonderful attitude she exudes today.
Absolutely true Think about how the "peace love and happiness" generation became the "free love and nickel beer" generation. So self absorbed that in their old age, their musical heroes sexual depravity is all they need to be interested. As shallow as a mud puddle in a drought, my generation. They sold their souls for "butt level consciousness" ( Bruce Hampton, Colonel) Slaves to Kinsey and Bernays. Pavlovian dogs in Skinnerian boxes. Like chickens pecking at the ground. Pecking at keys looking for nothing more than navel gazing.💯🌹😉🤔🐦
@@christinepaige2575 wish to not be right.. I'm so disappointed in my generation. Both sides are clueless to how there actions affect others. Plus, myriad humans are never even considered by our country at all. We were all children once. Wth can't we stop all forms of child abuse?
Pamela seems very down to earth and friendly. Her friends are lucky to hear her stories & go on trips to see places where things happened. Like where she pointed out where Janis Joplin died is not how I pictured it.
Love Pam’s take on the best concert ever! The Burrito’s were great in the rare occasions when Gram wasn’t loaded. Gilded Palace Of Sin is an iconic album that is sadly overlooked
Right! The Flying Burrito Brothers are to this day one of my favorite bands. And, I almost don't know anyone who is familiar with the band. And I had a huge crush on Grahm Parsons. His music is amazing to me.
Fascinating vid, Mary! You're scope of interests is impressive. I was somewhat familiar with Pamela's stories, but this piece brought those stories to life. What a remarkable era, it's a wonder that so many of those folks managed to survive. Particularly enjoyed your recent performance of Sultans of Swing with Josh. Keep up the awesome work!
The Whiskey and the Troubadour were both awesome hangouts, well into the early 90s, especially if you were in / with the band. Thanks for posting this, Mary.
Pamela hosted a good, revealing movie about "Groupies" maybe 20 years ago...I wonder how Pamela sustains herself financially now...maybe I should google her...this gal even held the plaster cast of the late Hendrix in her hand, during her visit with Cynthia Plaster Caster!...I remember that she said she could have experienced the real thing with Jimi, but Noel Redding, the bass player for Hendrix, got to her first!
Delighted to listen to Pamela. A Groupie that is pleasing to have a conversation about Rock n Roll history of the 1960's and it will be great to read her book. Pamela got to know quite a few celebrities of the 1960's.
Sad - what can I say more? Probably by now she ought to move on with her life and try to forget about past mistakes rather than glory in them, what do you think?!?
Bless her heart for living to tell the story and having such a great sense of self. Wouldn't have been my thing, but her stories are fascinating and she's definitely someone I would love to hang out with.
I really enjoyed watching this - I have her book and have looked into life in the Canyon and it is so rich, and is the music I was into in the late 60s and 70s. Great to see a fresh perspective. Thanks.
@@SmilingParrotfish-pj9zq Interesting - maybe. But I don't think living in constant humiliation, degradation, and worse yet - wanting that and thinking it's good, leads to a good life. And a good life is better than an interesting one.
"SWEET" Connie Hamzy was a local legend and celebrity in Little Rock , Arkansas where I grew up. She could be seen at local bars, music festivals and radio station promotions in the 80's and 90's. She also substitute taught High School where she would bring her photo albums and comment on "Little" Peter Frampton and Gerthy Huey Lewis. Also in the 90's she ran for the city board of Little Rock. Where she could be seen roller blading in a T-back bathing suit up and down a busy street campaigning for votes.
@@psychedelicprawncrumpets9479 No, Penny Lane was (is) an actual street in Liverpool that the Beatles used to travel down sometimes. Strawberry Fields is also an actual place in Liverpool.
@@beatlesrgear yes I know penny Lane is a street.. But I'm sure denny laine was the inspiration behind it. They were good mates and changing it to penny Lane was just a clever twist known to them only at the time
I just stumbled across your video here on Miss Pamela absolutely amazing stuff I wish it would’ve went on longer you should’ve done the whole documentary on this amazing person and the life she lead I would love to meet her someday and I am now going to go buy her book thank you so much for doing this I wish it was a longer piece because I want to see more thank you again
I've been in situations (multiple times!!!) when I've clearly asked if the guy's single and he clearly said yes, he's single, then later I found out they're in relationship/engaged/married. Why y'all mad at the groupies when the guy lied!!!??? Back then especially, news didn't travel as fast as now, there wasn't social media etc... no way of knowing if someone's in a relationship. The backbend story, Pamela wasn't there to f+ck, it was for fun, people see things differently, I wouldn't have seen it as a problem and probably she'd never guessed it'd be a problem either 🤷♀️ It's not like groupies are causing relationship problems on purpose.
Pamela is the real deal...she knew many of the big names in Rock--some of them intimately, many socially. She is of my generation, and when we finally croak, this interesting lore will fade away.
@@curbozerboomer1773 - Totally. People just don't have the fascination with bands and music they once did. I'm also a musician and i'm trying to keep the great rock traditions alive........at least temporarily. Thanks.
Hollywood Nights And those Hollywood nights In those Hollywood hills She was looking so right In her diamonds and frills All those big city nights In those high rolling hills Above all the lights She had all of the skills Song by Bob Seger All I Wanna Do Hit it This ain't no disco It ain't no country club either This is LA … "All I wanna do is have a little fun before I die" Song by Sheryl Crow Creeque Alley Mugwumps, high jumps, low slumps, big bumps Don't you work as hard as you play Make up, break up, everything is shake up Guess it had to be that way Sebastian and Zal formed the Spoonful Michelle, John, and Denny gettin' very tuneful McGuinn and McGuire just a catchin' fire In L.A., you know where that's at And everybody's gettin' fat except Mama Cass Di di di dit dit dit di di di dit, whoa Song by The Mamas & the Papas Into The Great Wide Open They moved into a place they both could afford He found a night club he could work at the door She had a guitar and she taught him some chords The sky was the limit Into the great wide open Under them skies of blue Out in the great wide open A rebel without Song by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers ☮️kevin
Pamela’s book “I’m With The Band” is one of the most enjoyable books that I’ve ever read. I’m as straight and macho as you can get, but reading her book, I wanted to be a groupie like her.
MARY, THIS VIDEO IS AWESOME! This just surpassed Mr. Polyphonic's video on John Bonham as my favorite UA-cam music video! Her story is to the whole scene and Era like watching a concert today where Paul McCartney, Robert Plant, David Gilmour, and Mick Jagger are on stage taking turns performing their favorite songs!
It’s just astounding to me that people can be famous for their associations with famous people. I’m interested to know whether she actually produced or created anything in her own life other than being an accessory to others
Fucking aaamazing. That woman has owned her shit.. well, for a long time. This is so 20th century --- the 60's music culture could never be replicated in our time, anymore than the fin de siecle Banquet Years of Paris. these testimonials are actually precious. Thank you all!
WOW! You (and I, through your video) actually met Pamela Des Barres! I've heard of her before, and I am glad to have heard some of her "war stories!" Thank you very much for this little piece of rock and roll history!
I love how Pamela is getting recognized again! She is amazing and so sweet! I love her bubbly spirit! She was able to have fun and spend time with so many famous rockstars! Lucky girl! ❤
I read her books quite a while back, and I loved them. Gives you a whole new outlook on things. I was raised conservatively so I thoroughly loved them.
Thank you so much for doing this, Mary! There’s nothing better than listening to a great storyteller in her/his element. Pamela is a very engaging person to listen to. As are you. You are loved here in Canada! Don’t be long before making the trek up North. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
its impressive she remembers all this.... esp since she keeps eluding to "how high" she was.... i barely remember playing shows let alone details... on the surface, without perspective, the idea of a groupie is not exactly the embodiment of 'classy' or 'respectable' ... yet the archetype of the 'muse' is a powerful force, synonymous with creativity, eternally bound in our collective minds through the magic of language... their is no MUSE-ic without the muse... ... i might not be able to remember all the shows that ive played, but i def remember the magical people ive met along the way. So thank you to all the groupies for sharing your magic so that we all can experience the wonderment of the human experience kaleidoscope, the fruits of creativity, the physical representation of the soul, MUSE-iC (i hope my atrocious lack of linguistic prowess is, at the very least, a-MUSE-ing...)
The whole time watching this video I can’t help but think of one of my top 10 all-time favorite movies…Almost Famous. I’m going to watch it again today.
That was great, Mary! I have read a couple of Miss Pamela's books. She has had a fuller life than mine, I guess, or at least a wildly different emphasis. 😎
She had *A LOT* of fun when she was young, but it would be slightly sad if she is still living off past glories. I hope she grew up and also had a fulfilling life in the last 50 years.
Yeah, she talked about Dylan's 50th birthday party, and going to the Zappas every year for their party, and other more recent stuff. So I don't think she stopped being a groupie in the 60s. People mellow a little with age. There are plenty of people whose career is "being famous for being famous".
My life has been so varied and incredible that I don't tell most people about it - they'd think I was on LSD. I love thinking about those times and pity the old people whose reminiscences are so bland. Having a past to look back on isn't sad at all. It makes me happy to have experienced freedom that few people today have.
Uhhh, mick jagger TEXTED you???lol. The simplest forms texting wasn’t common until the early 2000’s, lol. I’m having a hard time buying everything this lady is selling.
I love her positive attitude, how she reminisces without being sad that the times are over. I admire that.
Meet her in person she’s the most amazing inspiration. I absolutely love her she teaches womens writing workshops that will blow your mind!! she does tours she’s 74 and she still has so much energy!! Don’t miss out!!
She doesn’t have a taint anymore…it disintegrated.
Blecch.
I don’t know how anyone can have sex with numerous people just because they are famous, no respect for themselves.
Yeah, it's A LOT easier to keep a positive attitude in old age if you managed to have so much love and joy in your life. She's had it so fucking easy!
What a character. She`s so positive and didn`t just complain or badmouth anybody.
People didn't do that in the hippy era.
@barackmycat9448 You are correct. She didn't badmouth anybody. She goodmouthed everybody!
My friends introduced me to "Sweet" Connie Hamzy around 2005. We hung out smoked a bunch and would just sit for hours listening to her stories. The stories these women/groupies could tell are endlesss and fascinating. Sadly Connie passed away last year in August. These are fond memories that I'll never forget. R.I.P Connie, you were a very interesting and special person.
Of We're An American Band fame.
Sweet, sweet Connie doing her act
She had the whole show and that’s a natural fact.
@@theblueangel1973 Yessss! "These fine ladies, they had a plan. They were out to meet the boys in the band!" Lol
I hung out with her at the TGI Fridays on Markham in Little Rock back in the day. She also was a regular at the legendary White Water Tavern because she lived in that 7th street area and was a substitute teacher! Also had a buddy that knew her as a teen in the Broadmoor area of LR. He said she was beautiful as a teen but that her mom was upset about her lifestyle until the limos started pulling up at her house to take her to the shows! Then she thought her daughter was a star!
@@madmax8949 After further reflection I think I met her in 2003 she was living in the Quapaw area. I was 19 working at the train station meeting just the most interesting people, hobos, drifters, and most importantly the train people.
For those in the future reading this comment that are not from the middle of the USA. Modern train travel for most of the US not on the coast is inconvenient, expensive, and very out of the way. You have to really want to ride the train and those people are special. If you ever want a view of America most people don't see ride a train across the country if you even can anymore.
Glad to see Miss Pamela is still in stellar form. She's a great writer with a warm and engaging personality. She survived the times and lived to tell the tale. Kudos!
This is knocked out of the park. The shots, the editing, and this kind of storytelling while driving to the actual places brings it to life. Killer Mary 🤘
except when showing vintage shots - it goes in and out of focus and glare to mark the video and make it hard for others to copy clips and re - use them. I hate it. But I LOVE Miss Pamela !
What a fantastic trip down memory lane with Pamela, so many stories, and she’s telling them all with a smile on her face, which is a breath of fresh air these days.
A fresh breath of air to help break up a marriage?
Forget groupie title, she's a damn rock historian! Simpler times. Love hearing these stories.
Simpler and much cheaper gas
Consider though that historians aren’t often PART of the history they preserve. This woman very much was.
Rare to have Glory Days to recounted in a way to be succinct, discreet, humble, etc
ya if that 'gash' could talk
Lonnie, I can't remember what I had 4 breakfast. She's a gem.
I was around during those times, and played at the "Whiskey a Go Go" once too. At my art school bash, I had a Hendrix style trio, and the college hired another band too called, "Robert Plant and the Band of Joy". So we played support band to them. They become "Led Zeppelin" shortly afterwards. Somethings you never forget. This was a great video Mary, loved hearing all those crazy details too!
It was The Yardbirds that became Led Zeppelin. Robert Plant and John Bonham left The Band of Joy to join The New Yardbirds which then became Led Zeppelin.
@@malcolmadams2105 , yes very much so! Looking back one realises just how lucky we were then, it's a very different world today!
@@heliotropezzz333 , thank you for that, it's good to have clarification. (Have to remember that I was in Southampton, not London, and in those days few people there even knew what these musicians looked like.) John Bonham was extraordinary though, the highpoint of their performance was his drumming. Our drummer had never heard double rapid-fire beats on a bass drum. I think it was his night more than mine or our bass player. In our second set he too was playing them. (He was seventeen, and already a genius drummer. At nineteen he was playing like Buddy Rich. Sadly died at the age of twenty one.) Thanks again Helen.
Hate to be that guy, buuuuut, I read the book. It's been a minute but from what I recall she started earlier than 16. That guy that opened the door for her and gave her a joint, he did it because she blew him. I was, like a lot of my peers, an aspiring rock star as a kid growing up. One of the reasons it was so alluring to young men was the groupies. It's grown men having sex with underage girls. She stated in the book that that is how she worked her way up the ladder, from door security, to roadie, to stage manager, to bass player, to lead guitar player and then the star singer. I think the record to get to the headliner was 14 guys. I might be under remembering the number. I mean, there were plenty of gals who would have done that, I suppose, so that means she must have been pretty good. The stories are pretty neat but she was being exploited. For every one of her, there are a multitude of strung out junkies, OD's and used up and tossed aside young ladies that were somebody's daughter. I think her story is interesting but she should not be put on some sort of pedestal just because she survived and wrote a book about it.
Agree 100%. It's hilarious how revered all these rock stars were/still are.... when in reality they were straight up Pedos. 13-14-15 year olds.... Shocking that Creepy Joe didn't become a musician.
I don't know whose book you read, but NONE of this is true. Quit spreading false information.
@@bighairedmom Did you read the book, "I'm with the Band"? It's her book.
I read through a couple hundred comments before I read yours. It’s very disheartening that everyone applauds her for being a lost soul and all the pedophiles that took advantage of her while she was a minor. Makes me think less of the musicians I was musically inspired by.
While she brags about being a “famous “ groupie I’ll be praying for her soul. There will be a day of judgement.
@@bighairedmom It is common knowledge that groupies were often if not always underage. It's gross. Stop trying to rewrite history. Your favs were pedos.
Thanks, Mary, for doing this. I read "I'm With the Band" back in 1988 and loved the stories of Pamela Des Barres, Cynthia Plaster Caster, Frank Zappa, and the other big names of music at the time. Pamela seems like she could just sit and reminisce for hours without ever getting boring, which makes total sense because that's how I remember the book. I'm sure it was a real privilege for you to meet her and spend time.
It sounds like you would like to read about Frank's home life at the log cabin, not found in other books, from getting up to going to bed, composing and rehearsing with the Mothers, visiting rock stars, the GTOs and Cynthia Plaster Caster, family squabbles, and more, in 'Freak Out! My Life with Frank Zappa, Laurel Canyon 1968-1971.' I was a straight English girl, brought over to live at the log cabin to help Frank write a book on politics but I ended up managing the GTOs.
I had a friend who was a groupie in that era. Her main squeeze was Keith Emerson and riding on his motorcycle. She told how girls would literally fight over English rock stars. And that the ultimate catch was the duo of David Bowie and Iggy Pop. She said those guys would screw anything with a pulse.
Yes, Bowie also screwed Jimmy Pages kept 14 yr old girlfriend. Looking back now, very disturbing.
@@amygalvin1799 A different era.
@@amygalvin1799 very disturbing.
ELP drool
@@amygalvin1799 Bowie took Maddox's V-card and then she went with Page.
I was 15 when I read this book. It was 1985 and I was just starting to discover the music of these early rock bands. Almost almost 40 years later I am still into the hippy scene, I just traveled 3 time zones for a concert last week & I met my wife on Venice Beach while we were both on tour with the Grateful Dead in the v/ early 90's. Seeing this brings back memories. At the concert I just saw, String Cheese Incident, I ran onto a friend who 35 years ago gave me a tape and told me to listen to it as I was coming down & going to sleep. It was Barton Hall, a famous live Dead show, I think it was less than a month before I saw my first show and started touring w/ them. I hadn't seen him in so long, we hugged for so long, and cried tears of joy for I owe my entire life to this man handing me that tape that night. I now live on an Island in the Pacific and run an Indigenous Woman's Organization and wellness group with my wife. My whole life is based on doing the right thing and listening to the music play as the music will always show you the light. ❤❤❤ It all started with this book and learning about hippy culture in the 60s and the music behind the scene.
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Omg I’m a baby dead head I’ve seen them many times I even saw Levon helm perform for his last time at gathering of the vibes and I just discovered the string cheese incident! 🫶🏽
I have mixed emotions with these rock stars going after such very young girls, but I can understand what a thrill it would be as a teen growing up and getting to to be with these rockers.
Agreed 💯
You have those emotions cause 50 years has passed & it’s now not acceptable. At that time & long before that it was normal & anyone during that time went with it.
@@DevZant Agreed.... You were "kind of a square" if you were still a virgin at 15. It was a completely different era. Many girls greatest ambition was to get married at 16 straight out of school, and "get established" and girls who went on to college were "swots", "frumps" and "bluestockings" and thought unfeminine.. and this wasnt male pressure at all, this was female peer pressure. It was completely normal and even expected and desirable to have a lover 5 or 10 or 20 years older while you were still in your teens. In Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen set in the late 18th early 19th century, the pressure to get your daughters married *absolutely as soon as possible* illustrates the established normal, which remained right up until the late 1970s when greater access to further education and the Pill changed the pattern of women's lives completely
@@ludovica8221 seriously? Lots of things were "normal" once...having a Slave was "normal" once....women not having any rights was " normal" once...so many things were "normal"once no ? Doesn't make them right. It's pretty absurd and goes to show that that "further education "has not benefitted all.......I love these bands too but I can accept that they were amazing musicians but not amazing people...
@@Alice30254you serious? No kidding, that’s why these things where “normal” at those times. When society in a mass believes it’s normal, it’ll will be practiced that way. People educate themselves and see what’s better or worse. Slavery is still going on today as men marrying young to older teens. This isn’t normal in our mass of USA society because educating ourselves.
Yet some how, most accept even disagreeing people that like the same sex. Though it is okay for a hormonal change change for teens is good. While there’s more genders than man or woman as a man can have a kid. From my standpoint, we are getting educated while manipulated.
I believe most us in a mass see a common ground in humans. Then small portion asks for extreme things to knock things off balance.
You think humans aren’t animals without primitive thinking and instincts locked in their minds? I don’t care how smart we get, that will always be there and never be a perfect world. Unless you want AI to take over.
The book is soooo hard to put down. I contacted her a few years ago and she was so incredibly nice. The essential groupie.
Miss Pamela is an amazing person and we met her in la a few years ago and my wife bought some of her vintage clothing. She's a absolute blast and a beautiful soul.
wtf is amazing about slitting as a teenager with adult drunks and addicts? It's revolting. As a teenager she was a victim of her failed parents and those revolting rock stars. But gloating about it as an adult is just horrible. The woman literally never grew up enough to face how sad and horrible her teenage years were.
I remember reading about her in the Zappa books. That was quite a tour and she remains a tour de force. Nice to see that she's keeping so well -- she must have been selective with the drugs and/or have a robust constitution.
She's the reason Warren cuccurullo wanted to know why it hurt when he pee
When I first got to Los Angeles from Massachusetts, I couldn't wait to drive down Laurel Canyon. I wanted to feel that feeling of that great time in life when music was real. I used to drive it every day to work and always let my imagination take me away with what it must have been like back in the day. Though I worked in the music business for a while, it had changed by then and not the great feel of the 60s and 70s. Oh to go back in time.
Wow! Listening to this video had me thinking how close my experience was to Pam's. I wasn't a groupie but did hang with some rockers once and a while. Even to having lived on S. Alfred Street as Pam had. My friend was screwing Mick Jagger so I got to go to some great parties. And just like you, when I moved here from Massachusetts, I too couldn't wait to go down Laurel Canyon. Oh, that street! It's lost its sheen but it's still great to go back in time traveling down it. I was born about 8 years too late to really enjoy those days here in L.A. of glorious music. I too worked at a record company, as did my sister so I went to a lot of great events and concerts. That was when the music industry was still in good financial shape. I had some great stories to tell. I feel for the kids these days because I believe the music, if you want to call it that, is so bad it's crazy.
If you like to read, or listen on audio, then try my story of living and working in Frank Zappa's log cabin in Laurel Canyon in 1968 that details the birth of the GTOs, Frank's daily home life not shown in other books, from getting up to going to bed, composing at the piano, rehearsing with the Mothers in the basement, visiting rock stars, freaks, family squabbles, and more. I was a young, straight English girl that Frank brought over to help to write a political book. The book never got written so I ended up managing the GTOs. 'Freak Out! My Life with Frank Zappa, Laurel Canyon 1968-1971.' by Pauline Butcher
This just saved a valuable part of rock-n-roll's history. Yes, she wrote a book but I had never heard of it until now. So this video just locked in some reality from the era. Thank you to everyone involved!
Another valuable part of rock history tells Frank Zappa's home life not found in other books, from getting up to going to bed, composing and rehearsing with the Mothers, visiting rock stars, GTOs and Cynthia Plaster Caster, family squabbles and more. 'Freak Out! My Life with Frank Zappa, Laurel Canyon, 1968-1971'.
What a catch of an interview, Mary. Nice job. These stories matter.
What she describes is usually how it works. She definitely is the real deal. Our lives are own to construct or you can let other do it for you. She seems to have been of the mind not to wait around to be a constructor and take the ride. She has an intelligent engaging personality. Thanks for covering some of her story.
"Our lives are own to construct or you can let other do it for you." Beautifully said. I think you cut right to the heart, the main point of her story and this interview!
Just turn on the camera and let her talk. Pure gold.
I was never a "groupie" per se, lol, but I had a blast hanging with so many 80s and early 90s bands and dating the rockstars, dancing for band shows then, and even up until recently am still associated through friendship and business. My stories are endless. I would never change a thing. I was 16. I'm now 49.
BS
I know what you mean exactly, I'm 57 now and the 1980s rocked
@@becibabe7364
Maybe our paths crossed. I was doing the LA thang in the mid- to late-80s. It was a good time-the end of an era, really.
@@recynd77 I was living all over the areas for seven year's I left to come back home in 86 or 87
I have read her book, and that was an experience you won't forget for a while. I lived in the age of groupies (yeah, I am that old), and I remember all of the stories, and saw them sneaking in backstage at McNichols Arena, and Red Rocks here in Colorado. Those were some fun day's to be a photographer !
I met Jimbo backstage in Phila but she's right...he was w Pam, dang.
Wasn't a rock star but I met huge crush Warren B in his hot days...he called me but I missed his call, probably for the best tho...
Did date a world class celeb for a while who will remain nameless...
@@stj971 Gary Glitter???
@@chrisbuckley1785 😆
Now THAT'S an interview.... Thank you, Mary....and of course my best regards Pamela.
Probably had more fun in one weekend, than most have in a lifetime. St. Paul,Minnesota.
I could listen to her stories for hours on end. Great stuff!
What a memorable life Pam has lived! Glad she is willing to share these stories. Thanks for bringing us this wonderful video Mary.
The great thing is...Pamela is still pretty lucid...the drugs and booze did not hurt her much...all things considered, she even still looks good for her age!
Thank you so much Mary for this fabulous video. This could have been going on for hours and I would not have been able to stop watching. Special thanks for taking us to the Zappa house on Woodrow Wilson Drive. I only was in LA once in 1994 and I didn‘t drive up there, what I regret to this day. This video contains so much music history and I enjoyed every second of it.
Glad to see Miss Pamela active and well. During her time there was still the aura of innocence and newness around rock music and its fandom. Her book is very cute and charming, and is actually well-written.
If you like to read, then try this one on Frank Zappa's home life at the log cabin when he formed the GTOs and rehearsed with the Mothers in the basement, visiting rock stars, freaks, family squabbles, and more. 'Freak Out! My Life with Frank Zappa, Laurel Canyon 1968-1971'.
Thanks
What a great vid!! So fun to hear her favorite live show (and favorite music genre) was the Burrito Bros at the Whiskey. What a time in a era. What a wild child. And what a wonderful attitude she exudes today.
Hello 👋 how’re you doing?
She became godmother to Gram’s daughter Polly.
Some people from that era would say
"Making groupies famous is admitting we are running out of interesting people"
Absolutely true
Think about how the "peace love and happiness" generation became the "free love and nickel beer" generation.
So self absorbed that in their old age, their musical heroes sexual depravity is all they need to be interested.
As shallow as a mud puddle in a drought, my generation.
They sold their souls for "butt level consciousness" ( Bruce Hampton, Colonel)
Slaves to Kinsey and Bernays.
Pavlovian dogs in Skinnerian boxes.
Like chickens pecking at the ground.
Pecking at keys looking for nothing more than navel gazing.💯🌹😉🤔🐦
@MG Massey, you are so right.
@@christinepaige2575 wish to not be right..
I'm so disappointed in my generation. Both sides are clueless to how there actions affect others.
Plus, myriad humans are never even considered by our country at all.
We were all children once.
Wth can't we stop all forms of child abuse?
What a great job of documenting the past. Best video yet, Mary! Bravo!!
Pamela seems very down to earth and friendly. Her friends are lucky to hear her stories & go on trips to see places where things happened. Like where she pointed out where Janis Joplin died is not how I pictured it.
Love Pam’s take on the best concert ever! The Burrito’s were great in the rare occasions when Gram wasn’t loaded. Gilded Palace Of Sin is an iconic album that is sadly overlooked
I love The Flying Burritos
I agree, gram was a brilliant mess, I'd liked to seen what he may or may not have done
Right! The Flying Burrito Brothers are to this day one of my favorite bands. And, I almost don't know anyone who is familiar with the band. And I had a huge crush on Grahm Parsons. His music is amazing to me.
Fascinating vid, Mary! You're scope of interests is impressive. I was somewhat familiar with Pamela's stories, but this piece brought those stories to life. What a remarkable era, it's a wonder that so many of those folks managed to survive. Particularly enjoyed your recent performance of Sultans of Swing with Josh. Keep up the awesome work!
The Whiskey and the Troubadour were both awesome hangouts, well into the early 90s, especially if you were in / with the band. Thanks for posting this, Mary.
This is AMAZING, what great stories, and now they’ll live on forever in these videos too!
Educational indeed! An unexpected treat of a film (cool architecture) . Good to hear a woman articulate her experiences and control her own narrative.
Pamela hosted a good, revealing movie about "Groupies" maybe 20 years ago...I wonder how Pamela sustains herself financially now...maybe I should google her...this gal even held the plaster cast of the late Hendrix in her hand, during her visit with Cynthia Plaster Caster!...I remember that she said she could have experienced the real thing with Jimi, but Noel Redding, the bass player for Hendrix, got to her first!
Delighted to listen to Pamela. A Groupie that is pleasing to have a conversation about Rock n Roll history of the 1960's and it will be great to read her book. Pamela got to know quite a few celebrities of the 1960's.
This was fantastic! I can’t wait to watch the full version!
Sad - what can I say more? Probably by now she ought to move on with her life and try to forget about past mistakes rather than glory in them, what do you think?!?
This is so fascinating! Thanks for sharing this with us Mary.
You've done so many different things! The GTOs! Writing! You have a creative soul.
Wow! That was a pretty incredible tour with Pam reading excerpts from her book while driving you around.
Bless her heart for living to tell the story and having such a great sense of self. Wouldn't have been my thing, but her stories are fascinating and she's definitely someone I would love to hang out with.
I really enjoyed watching this - I have her book and have looked into life in the Canyon and it is so rich, and is the music I was into in the late 60s and 70s. Great to see a fresh perspective. Thanks.
Not sure if that's something to be proud of but oke.
But it's sure more interesting than your life would ever be
@@SmilingParrotfish-pj9zq Interesting - maybe. But I don't think living in constant humiliation, degradation, and worse yet - wanting that and thinking it's good, leads to a good life. And a good life is better than an interesting one.
Why not? She was out there doing what she wanted to do and made lots of memories and obviously she had fun. Plus she has fun stories for us. Why hate?
@@tishainess9339 just my opinion, better to be proud of something you achieved instead of hanging around people who achieve
@@RoyRope Very well said, but also what she did was just being a sex object for vain celebrities. I don't get how anyone could view that as good.
Absolute gold!!! Well done Mary!!
"SWEET" Connie Hamzy was a local legend and celebrity in Little Rock , Arkansas where I grew up. She could be seen at local bars, music festivals and radio station promotions in the 80's and 90's. She also substitute taught High School where she would bring her photo albums and comment on "Little" Peter Frampton and Gerthy Huey Lewis. Also in the 90's she ran for the city board of Little Rock. Where she could be seen roller blading in a T-back bathing suit up and down a busy street campaigning for votes.
The inspiration for Penny Lane in Almost Famous? Brilliant video, what a catch Mary!
I guess so! It's all I could think about while watching this interesting, unexpected video from Mary
Penny Lane was based on Pennie Lane who was part of a different group of groupies, the Flying Garter Girls.
I heard penny Lane was based around Paul's mate denny laine who later joined wings
@@psychedelicprawncrumpets9479 No, Penny Lane was (is) an actual street in Liverpool that the Beatles used to travel down sometimes. Strawberry Fields is also an actual place in Liverpool.
@@beatlesrgear yes I know penny Lane is a street.. But I'm sure denny laine was the inspiration behind it. They were good mates and changing it to penny Lane was just a clever twist known to them only at the time
Oh, I love her. I read her book many years ago. I love her honesty and her stories.
Awesome, the best rock history short I've ever seen!
I just stumbled across your video here on Miss Pamela absolutely amazing stuff I wish it would’ve went on longer you should’ve done the whole documentary on this amazing person and the life she lead I would love to meet her someday and I am now going to go buy her book thank you so much for doing this I wish it was a longer piece because I want to see more thank you again
I don't get how someone can be so happy about having caused strife between people in a relationship. It's not cool.
Agreed. She just didn't care. A user.
@@carolynadams4669 Apparently she still doesn't care.
I've been in situations (multiple times!!!) when I've clearly asked if the guy's single and he clearly said yes, he's single, then later I found out they're in relationship/engaged/married. Why y'all mad at the groupies when the guy lied!!!??? Back then especially, news didn't travel as fast as now, there wasn't social media etc... no way of knowing if someone's in a relationship. The backbend story, Pamela wasn't there to f+ck, it was for fun, people see things differently, I wouldn't have seen it as a problem and probably she'd never guessed it'd be a problem either 🤷♀️ It's not like groupies are causing relationship problems on purpose.
Oh, please it was very different times ... another lifetime ago ~🎤 🎶 🎸
It's called a narcissist.
Miss Pamela is a National Treasure. I love her so much.
Pamela DesBarre's book was fab. I bought it when it first came out and loved it
I can't tell you how awesome that was Mary. I'm a music history nerd, and Pamela totally delivered.
Very well done.
Pamela is the real deal...she knew many of the big names in Rock--some of them intimately, many socially. She is of my generation, and when we finally croak, this interesting lore will fade away.
@@curbozerboomer1773 - Totally. People just don't have the fascination with bands and music they once did. I'm also a musician and i'm trying to keep the great rock traditions alive........at least temporarily.
Thanks.
Hollywood Nights
And those Hollywood nights
In those Hollywood hills
She was looking so right
In her diamonds and frills
All those big city nights
In those high rolling hills
Above all the lights
She had all of the skills
Song by Bob Seger
All I Wanna Do
Hit it
This ain't no disco
It ain't no country club either
This is LA
… "All I wanna do is have a little fun before I die"
Song by Sheryl Crow
Creeque Alley
Mugwumps, high jumps, low slumps, big bumps
Don't you work as hard as you play
Make up, break up, everything is shake up
Guess it had to be that way
Sebastian and Zal formed the Spoonful
Michelle, John, and Denny gettin' very tuneful
McGuinn and McGuire just a catchin' fire
In L.A., you know where that's at
And everybody's gettin' fat except Mama Cass
Di di di dit dit dit di di di dit, whoa
Song by The Mamas & the Papas
Into The Great Wide Open
They moved into a place they both could afford
He found a night club he could work at the door
She had a guitar and she taught him some chords
The sky was the limit
Into the great wide open
Under them skies of blue
Out in the great wide open
A rebel without
Song by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
☮️kevin
I love Miss Pamela. I have all her books! She is a great storyteller!
Absolutely brilliant. I didn’t want it to end.
That was so much fun watching this video!!!! Thank you!!!!
Pamela’s book “I’m With The Band” is one of the most enjoyable books that I’ve ever read. I’m as straight and macho as you can get, but reading her book, I wanted to be a groupie like her.
Amazing interview, Thanks Mary.
MARY, THIS VIDEO IS AWESOME! This just surpassed Mr. Polyphonic's video on John Bonham as my favorite UA-cam music video! Her story is to the whole scene and Era like watching a concert today where Paul McCartney, Robert Plant, David Gilmour, and Mick Jagger are on stage taking turns performing their favorite songs!
It’s just astounding to me that people can be famous for their associations with famous people. I’m interested to know whether she actually produced or created anything in her own life other than being an accessory to others
She wrote a book that sold enough copies become a New York Times best seller
Every artist needs a muse. 🤭
Not famous but infamous?
Almost Famous.
The Kraptrashians are the same.
That's CRAZY! I'm amazed these venues have been around for so long. I 1st became aware of them during the 80s Hair Metal movement.
Extraordinary, you were at the right place at the right time but more importantly you had it! Yes it!
Fucking aaamazing. That woman has owned her shit.. well, for a long time. This is so 20th century --- the 60's music culture could never be replicated in our time, anymore than the fin de siecle Banquet Years of Paris. these testimonials are actually precious. Thank you all!
I cracked up hard when she called Dylan's hand "like a dead fish" hahaha!
WOW! You (and I, through your video) actually met Pamela Des Barres! I've heard of her before, and I am glad to have heard some of her "war stories!" Thank you very much for this little piece of rock and roll history!
cool you got this opportunity. integrity breeds success. well done
I love how Pamela is getting recognized again! She is amazing and so sweet! I love her bubbly spirit! She was able to have fun and spend time with so many famous rockstars! Lucky girl! ❤
I read her books quite a while back, and I loved them. Gives you a whole new outlook on things. I was raised conservatively so I thoroughly loved them.
An incredibly beautiful woman I am constantly learning from and with. I am blessed to say I see her every couple of weeks and write with her.
Thank you for the fun interview and tour. I read her book years ago. What a kick..
Loved this video, Mary. Bravo!
Cool stories 💖 seems like she had a blast
Thank you so much for doing this, Mary! There’s nothing better than listening to a great storyteller in her/his element. Pamela is a very engaging person to listen to. As are you.
You are loved here in Canada! Don’t be long before making the trek up North. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Genius Mary, simply genius. I grew up in that era, thank you...
Simply amazing !! I was a teenager living in Northern California at the time. We heard some of the stories but not this much. And even more on Nebula.
I enjoyed your book so much. I was in grad school: psychology. The psychological insights you have were spot on.
its impressive she remembers all this.... esp since she keeps eluding to "how high" she was.... i barely remember playing shows let alone details... on the surface, without perspective, the idea of a groupie is not exactly the embodiment of 'classy' or 'respectable' ... yet the archetype of the 'muse' is a powerful force, synonymous with creativity, eternally bound in our collective minds through the magic of language... their is no MUSE-ic without the muse... ... i might not be able to remember all the shows that ive played, but i def remember the magical people ive met along the way. So thank you to all the groupies for sharing your magic so that we all can experience the wonderment of the human experience kaleidoscope, the fruits of creativity, the physical representation of the soul, MUSE-iC
(i hope my atrocious lack of linguistic prowess is, at the very least, a-MUSE-ing...)
The whole time watching this video I can’t help but think of one of my top 10 all-time favorite movies…Almost Famous. I’m going to watch it again today.
I met Pamela one day thrifting in the Valley. She was very nice, very open. Invited me to her house for her big clothing sales.
That was great, Mary! I have read a couple of Miss Pamela's books. She has had a fuller life than mine, I guess, or at least a wildly different emphasis. 😎
Very cool. Stories of a different time and place. I wish that I grew up during that time.
That was nowhere close of your usual content! So much out of the box! That was just and simply an amazing video!
I read Pam's book when it came out. Very cool to actually see her, glad she is doing well.
So aweome to imagine what it was like in those golden days - great content as always Mary! 😀👍
Thanks for that Mary. You did a wonderful job, and it was nice to hear from miss pam again. Simpler days indeed.
She had *A LOT* of fun when she was young, but it would be slightly sad if she is still living off past glories. I hope she grew up and also had a fulfilling life in the last 50 years.
Yeah, she talked about Dylan's 50th birthday party, and going to the Zappas every year for their party, and other more recent stuff. So I don't think she stopped being a groupie in the 60s. People mellow a little with age. There are plenty of people whose career is "being famous for being famous".
@@GizzyDillespee Zappa died in 1993.
@@karenacuffhendricks1 She said Gail Zappa died 5 years ago.
JEALOUS!!!!!
My life has been so varied and incredible that I don't tell most people about it - they'd think I was on LSD. I love thinking about those times and pity the old people whose reminiscences are so bland. Having a past to look back on isn't sad at all. It makes me happy to have experienced freedom that few people today have.
I'm glad your still here pam
Pamela DesBarres is freakin’ adorable! It’s no wonder all the rock stars love her! I love her!
Thanks Mary, that was fun! Love your shirt 🤘
Uhhh, mick jagger TEXTED you???lol. The simplest forms texting wasn’t common until the early 2000’s, lol. I’m having a hard time buying everything this lady is selling.
Love this car interview with Pam, minus the endless beeping of her turn signal ... 😆
Don van Vliet, oh yeah baby, his approach of music was awesome...look in to that, would love to see how you work it in to your own music.
This was so intriguing.. I Would love to see more of these types of videos showing the behind the scenes people in music history
Thanks Mary, this was awesome