China will never give it to Pakistan WS13 TOT, but Russia can, as already given a lot of technologies to China, Ukraine, india and Belarus , Russian RD93 TOT is best option.,,
@@hasanferoz2364 koi nhi dega.. China ne billions of dollars khilaye the tb jakar mile.. wo bhi tb jb Soviet Union toot rha tha aur paise k liye taras rha tha.
Pakistan must concentrate on Air Force and air defence and self reliance as that is the way forward. We, must get technology transfers from China and Turkey..and from Russia if possible. We must develop weapon manufacturing on top priority, as investing in weapons technology, will benefits our economy and self reliance..
Go for the "Cristal Blade Single body" engine with China🇨🇳 Establish a Cristal Blade manufacturing plant in Peshawar, which will make U🇵🇰 self sufficient on critical hightech by a great assistants from Beijing 🤔 So focus on where to focus most 🤨
ہم کو ماضی سے سبق لینا چاہیے اور اب اپنے دفاع کو مکمل طور پر بس ایک ہی ملک پر منحصر نہیں ہونے دینا چاہیے Diverse Supply line would be batter for future geo politics
ہمارے لیے وہی انجن بہتر ہے جو ہم پاکستان میں بھی اسیمبل کرنے کی بجائے بنا سکیں، چاہے وہ روس کے تعاون سے ہو یا چائنہ، ترکی بھی انجن ٹیکنالوجی پر تیزی سے کام کر رہا ہے اور پاکستان کے پاس یہ تیسرا آپشن بھی ہے، لیکن بنیادی مقصد خود انحصاری حاصل کرنا ہے.
I think k RD-93MA ka engine thora underpowered hai............Aesa radar jo k JF17 ka hai,wohi medium weight J10C ka b hai.........aur J10-C mei engine ka batr honay sy kafi farq pra unn ki capabilities mei .......they should wait and go for Chinese engine......
چائنا کا انجن ڈبلیو ایس13 تھرسٹ میں آر ڈی 93 ایم اے سے کافی بہتر ھے اور مستقبل میں چائنا پر depend کی وجہ سے پاکستان کو ایک ملک کی ٹیکنالوجی پر انحصار کو مقدم جاننا چاھیے۔
Probably true right now. But if the Russians provide technical assistance with TOT and license production......then its worth exploring the RD-93MA. You may see JF-17 B3's with both RD-93MA and WS engines, IMO.
China will never give it to Pakistan WS13 TOT, but Russia can, as already given a lot of technologies to China, Ukraine, india and Belarus , Russian RD93 TOT is best option.,,
WS13 E is single crystal blade technology is way superior and J31 or J35 would be fitted with the same engine. Must be at least 100kn or more. So any other option would be a big blunder
One main point is TOT (Transfer of Technology) . I think Russia se hamein ye technology mil sakti hai jab k Chinese se nhi mil sakti. This technology will also help us in drone and missiles program.
China will never give it to Pakistan WS13 TOT, but Russia can, as already given a lot of technologies to China, Ukraine, india and Belarus , Russian RD93 TOT is best option.,,
beshak behtar khabar hai, iska draw back hai ke russia ne iss jet engine ki 100% technology china aur bharat se share ki hai so jf17 ke secrets bharat se share hone ki wajha se pakistan ke liye preshani ka sabbab hai.🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
Jet engine technology koi bhi 100% ksi ko nahi deta. Even US, UK r France bhi apas me share nahi krty. License production 1 r cheez hoti hai usme limited technology transfer hota hai. Critical parts phir bhi original OEM hi supply krta hai. Especially Single crystaline engine blade ki metallurgy, fabrication process koi ksi ko nahi btata. Isiliy aj tk Turkiye apna koi helicopter r fighter jet export nahi kr skta q k usme foreign license produced engine lagtay hen. Turkiye khud bhi engine license produce kry to tb bhi critical components khud nahi bna skta. China ko bui decades lagay isliy jet engine design/manufacturing ko mature honay me
@@asimjabbar8445 frnd............actually russia ne RD-33 ki production khatam kar RD-93 jet engine ki production shuru ki, par production khatam karne se pehle russia ne RD-33 ki 100% technology china aur bharat se share ki, na siraf chinese ws-10 engine RD-33 based hai balki december 2024 ko bharat ke odisha sube ke kalahandi area se bharat RD-33 ki production shuru kar dega.......siraf andaz lagane se behtar hai meharbani kar ke facts check karen.
There could be delays in manufacturing and later on supply chain problems due to on going Russia Ukraine war . Moreover there are less compatibility issues if a single source is used.
@@artsc8405 chinese technology ab bohot behtar hai yeha tak k kuch terms me western ko piche chorti hai jese k hypersonic missile .. china ab woh china nahi jo phele us k items hoty thy ..
@@artsc8405 pakistan sirf jf me Russian engine use kr raha hai j10 me chinese hai j35 lega us me chinese engine hoga.. jf k lye chinese pitch kya tha shuru me lekin woh same rd jesi performance de raha tha tab pakistan ny aur behtar ka khaha tha us time sekaam shuru tha ab chinese engine rd se behtar hai lekin sath sath russia ny bhi new variant nikala hai .. ab pakistan 3 cheezein dekh raha hai performance supply line aur tot.. tot mushkil hai bs
They will never give it to Pakistan, but Russia can, as already given a lot of technologies to China, Ukraine, india and Belarus , RD93 TOT is best option.,
What do you think the odds of a SU-35 license production deal with Russia are? Pakistan is on a solid track to get exports to Russia up to 4 Billion per year in the next few years (Pakistan already has a trade surplus with Russia since major oil import deals were not done)......so expect more TOT/license production defense contracts between Pakistan and Russia in the future.
@@arceuslee7087 dramay bazi na kro sb likha hua hai. Even Bypass ratio r thrust to weight ratio bhi did hui hai. WS-13 ka thrust thorha sa zada hai lekin weight bhi zada hai to thrust-weight ratio similar hen. Lifespan bhi Chinese engine ka km hota hai as usual 3k vs 4k hours. And I haven't seen any engine named rd-93ma. But there's rd-33mk whose thrust is 7% better than the rd-33. rd-93 ka upgraded variant bhi asa hi perform kry ga. Rd-93 is basically an rd-33 engine of MiG-29 with slight changes in the placement of gearbox. Baki actual thrust figures meny koi zubani ratta nahi lagay hua. There's nothing called ws-13e. As far as I know. China is not interested in this engine at all. Ws-13 was made for JF-17 and China doesn't have any thunder in their inventory. They are probably more focussed on the next gen engines for J-31/35 which would have similar profile but better performance required for 5th gen fighters.
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Nhi bhai......... Engine bnana atomic sy b zyada musqil hota hai..... Yahi wajha hai k ab taq khan tayara abhi taq nhi banna...... Uss ka engine nhi develop ho pa rha
China will never give it to Pakistan WS13 TOT, but Russia can, as already given a lot of technologies to China, Ukraine, india and Belarus , Russian RD93 TOT is best option.,,
Yea RD93-MA fuel khata nhi peeta hai...........aur yea engine JF17 k aesa radar k lia underpowered hai........they should enploit something other than rd93........
Your reasons for adopting Chinese technology are very convincing. But if Pakistan is interested and gets offer from Russia for joint production of jet engines their technology can be used as base version in the Pakistan Aviation Industry as the Russians have an experience of several decades in engine manufacturing.
There won't be any such offer. We purchased billions of dollars of military jet from Russia but engine tech was always heavily guarded and not shared. Nobody shares engine tech.. if u don't believe ask china for tech of WS13 engine
@nishantshrivastava9674 India is already making RD33 engines under TOT from Russia. Deal is going on for manufacturing of French Saffron engines for Refael. It is not impossible, specially Russia is offering TOT options to retain it's presence in front of it's competitors.
@@yassermalik8751 If We had Russian RD 33 tech, u think we would be struggling in kaveri engine?? 😅 Let me tell u a secret.. they all pretend to share 100 percent technology just bag multi billion order. We just assemble RD33 and AL 31, only 55 percent of AL 31 engine parts are manufactured in India, rest of 45 percent critical components directly comes from Russia including engine core, turbine blades and FADEC control system. They don't even share machinery which would manufacture those hot section of engine which most difficult thing to master. They don't share know how of making superalloys which can withstand 1400°C for atleast 2000 hours.
@nishantshrivastava9674 But that is a possibility incase when engines TOT is an additional clause to secure a bulk order of jets sale deal. If talks are going on specifically for engines TOT only you cannot skip the main objective. Secondly Pakistan is already thinking to acquire Chinese engines, and this would a last chance for the Russians to keep themselves in and keeping in mind that the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex has a number of export orders for JF17s in hand. Any way the initial step may be an assembling setup. Hope understood.
@@ahleQadyaniyat Licensed manufacturing krte the.. critical components engine k aaj bhi Russia se aate h. Koi engine ki technology share nhi krta. American engine ki quality aur life Russian engine se 3 guna juada h.. so unhone jb offer kiya 1980s me to hm mana nhi kr paaye. Wo chahte the ki hm Russian jets kharidna bnd krke khud ka jet bnaye.. hme bhi iss deal me fayda nazar aaya aur unhe bhi laga Russia ka market kharab hoga to aur kamjor hoga😊
Aap ka her future analysis ulta hota hai ap ne kaha tha pakistan j10 nai le ga us ne liya. Ap ne kaha tha pakistan project azm per twaja dy ga or chinese j35 nhi le ga wo b pakistan le rha hai.... Lahaza apna analysis kr k video upload kiya kren.
Bhai, Hum na tu koi Military Officials Hain aur Na Hi Hamary Opinion pr PAF Decision leti hai..... Waqt k saath saath Naey Challenges ko ley kr Faisly lenay partay Hain... Jo baat aaj Sy 3 Saal pehly durst ya ziada Viable ho, hu skta hai Woh aaj na ho.... Iss video mein bhi mukhtalif points k saath suggest kia hua keh Chinese Option ziada suitable hai, agr AP ko Russian option ziada suitable lgti hai tu aap us ko 2nd krny k liay apni opinion rakhny mein Azad Hain... Aur har video mein ki hui baat ka Woh purpose nhi hota Jo commonly smjha jata hai....
With Russia yes but RD93 is not good WS13 was better but Pakistan wants to get away from China then go ahead but with Russia we need tech not engines…Old engines…
Bruh? Kabhi Ws15 ka naam suna hai...? China started replacing AL31 with ws10 engines which not only outperformed al31 but also al41, ghanta dimag usay keh rahe tumhara dimag kitna kaam krta..... China kya pagal hai jo single enngine J10c ko aisay waisay engine se equip kr de ga. Koi to improvement ho hi ghi na over AL31
Pakistan is using French, American, Russian and Chinese engines from 50's, but we are still unable to even produce simple spare parts for these engines !
China will never give it to Pakistan WS13 TOT, but Russia can, as already given a lot of technologies to China, Ukraine, india and Belarus , Russian RD93 TOT is best option.,
right now Pakistan using russian engine klimov in JF13 and j10 is using ws series engine j10 fuel 5000 litre capacity jf17 3000 litre capacity jf17 range radius bigger almost double of the j10 1500 range radius j10 can carry more its heavy fighter with 13 hard points jf17 is lighter with 8tto 9 hardpoints
Bravo😂.......yea idea tou hmay aya hi nhi😂😂😂 Crystallographic machine hoti tou bna b lyta Pakistan........ Pakistan has brains for it but resources are very low😢
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Pakistan should have gone for Tot for RD93 when we were acquiring 250+ engines
Might need even more engines for exports air crafts and spares
@haseebahmad3045 yea that's why the + we needed for spares and exports
It's not easy tot for a engine engine technology is too difficult
China will never give it to Pakistan WS13 TOT, but Russia can, as already given a lot of technologies to China, Ukraine, india and Belarus , Russian RD93 TOT is best option.,,
@@hasanferoz2364 koi nhi dega.. China ne billions of dollars khilaye the tb jakar mile.. wo bhi tb jb Soviet Union toot rha tha aur paise k liye taras rha tha.
Pakistan must concentrate on Air Force and air defence and self reliance as that is the way forward.
We, must get technology transfers from China and Turkey..and from Russia if possible.
We must develop weapon manufacturing on top priority, as investing in weapons technology, will benefits our economy and self reliance..
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Go for the "Cristal Blade Single body" engine with China🇨🇳 Establish a Cristal Blade manufacturing plant in Peshawar, which will make U🇵🇰 self sufficient on critical hightech by a great assistants from Beijing 🤔 So focus on where to focus most 🤨
PAF ❤ is moving in strategic direction, and I am sure we will be the best of the best Air Force ❤IA
But Pakistan needs made in Pakistan Engine not to be purchased from outside
ہم کو ماضی سے سبق لینا چاہیے اور اب اپنے دفاع کو مکمل طور پر بس ایک ہی ملک پر منحصر نہیں ہونے دینا چاہیے
Diverse Supply line would be batter for future geo politics
Focus on local research and development. Baisakheoun ka koi faeeda nahin.
Good video brother❤❤ best of luck Pakistan zindabad😊❤❤❤❤❤❤
PAF needs to engage with Russia for procurement of AL51 or AL41 Engines for it's KAAN aircraft acquisition-induction in my opinion !!
Rd93 ma engine bater option because j17 black 3 airframe not sport ws13 engine thrust..
ہمارے لیے وہی انجن بہتر ہے جو ہم پاکستان میں بھی اسیمبل کرنے کی بجائے بنا سکیں، چاہے وہ روس کے تعاون سے ہو یا چائنہ،
ترکی بھی انجن ٹیکنالوجی پر تیزی سے کام کر رہا ہے اور پاکستان کے پاس یہ تیسرا آپشن بھی ہے، لیکن بنیادی مقصد خود انحصاری حاصل کرنا ہے.
You have a great mindset. I hope someone at power will think in a similar manner.
@kawan5851 thanks buddy,
We need selfless and loyal people to work for our country and it's defense
WS_13-E IS the Best option for ThUnder⚡⛈️
Chaines engine is the best option for jf-17
Good analysis very practical well done dear
Thanks a lot
RD- 93MA is the beat Engine
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I think k RD-93MA ka engine thora underpowered hai............Aesa radar jo k JF17 ka hai,wohi medium weight J10C ka b hai.........aur J10-C mei engine ka batr honay sy kafi farq pra unn ki capabilities mei .......they should wait and go for Chinese engine......
چائنا کا انجن ڈبلیو ایس13 تھرسٹ میں آر ڈی 93 ایم اے سے کافی بہتر ھے اور مستقبل میں چائنا پر depend کی وجہ سے پاکستان کو ایک ملک کی ٹیکنالوجی پر انحصار کو مقدم جاننا چاھیے۔
Probably true right now. But if the Russians provide technical assistance with TOT and license production......then its worth exploring the RD-93MA. You may see JF-17 B3's with both RD-93MA and WS engines, IMO.
China will never give it to Pakistan WS13 TOT, but Russia can, as already given a lot of technologies to China, Ukraine, india and Belarus , Russian RD93 TOT is best option.,,
In Sha Allah Pakistan 🇵🇰 Economy Will Rise By The Coming Years
My opinion is for RD-93 M.A Engines ✅️✅️👍👍❤️❤️
This engine we used in our old Indian mig 29 aircraft ❤
Pakistan should buy Mig-35 fighter jets with transfer of engine technology.
WS13 E is single crystal blade technology is way superior and J31 or J35 would be fitted with
the same engine. Must be at least 100kn or more. So any other option would be a big blunder
One main point is TOT (Transfer of Technology) . I think Russia se hamein ye technology mil sakti hai jab k Chinese se nhi mil sakti. This technology will also help us in drone and missiles program.
Aur aapko aisa kyn lagta h ki Russia aapko wo technology dega jo hme 70 saal me nhi diye aur China ko billions of dollars k badle diye??
China will never give it to Pakistan WS13 TOT, but Russia can, as already given a lot of technologies to China, Ukraine, india and Belarus , Russian RD93 TOT is best option.,,
@@adnanibnnoor_1 And why do u think Russia would give u something like jet engine tech which even China won't??
Ws15 engine Lena chahye PFX k liye
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Pak-China corporation is good for forever both are iron brothers🇵🇰🇨🇳
beshak behtar khabar hai, iska draw back hai ke russia ne iss jet engine ki 100% technology china aur bharat se share ki hai so jf17 ke secrets bharat se share hone ki wajha se pakistan ke liye preshani ka sabbab hai.🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
Jet engine technology koi bhi 100% ksi ko nahi deta. Even US, UK r France bhi apas me share nahi krty.
License production 1 r cheez hoti hai usme limited technology transfer hota hai. Critical parts phir bhi original OEM hi supply krta hai. Especially Single crystaline engine blade ki metallurgy, fabrication process koi ksi ko nahi btata.
Isiliy aj tk Turkiye apna koi helicopter r fighter jet export nahi kr skta q k usme foreign license produced engine lagtay hen. Turkiye khud bhi engine license produce kry to tb bhi critical components khud nahi bna skta. China ko bui decades lagay isliy jet engine design/manufacturing ko mature honay me
@@asimjabbar8445 frnd............actually russia ne RD-33 ki production khatam kar RD-93 jet engine ki production shuru ki, par production khatam karne se pehle russia ne RD-33 ki 100% technology china aur bharat se share ki, na siraf chinese ws-10 engine RD-33 based hai balki december 2024 ko bharat ke odisha sube ke kalahandi area se bharat RD-33 ki production shuru kar dega.......siraf andaz lagane se behtar hai meharbani kar ke facts check karen.
There could be delays in manufacturing and later on supply chain problems due to on going Russia Ukraine war .
Moreover there are less compatibility issues if a single source is used.
Please focus on local research and development. How long we will be dependant on other countries for such major components?.
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Latest WS13 E is a better option in the long run.
جی بہتر ہے
But chinese technology is not good thats why pakistan eying for russian technology.
@@artsc8405 chinese technology ab bohot behtar hai yeha tak k kuch terms me western ko piche chorti hai jese k hypersonic missile .. china ab woh china nahi jo phele us k items hoty thy ..
@@ZeeshanAnwar-b7j but not in jet engine technology . If chinese engine is so good pakistani air force is relying on russia olfor engines.
@@artsc8405 pakistan sirf jf me Russian engine use kr raha hai j10 me chinese hai j35 lega us me chinese engine hoga.. jf k lye chinese pitch kya tha shuru me lekin woh same rd jesi performance de raha tha tab pakistan ny aur behtar ka khaha tha us time sekaam shuru tha ab chinese engine rd se behtar hai lekin sath sath russia ny bhi new variant nikala hai .. ab pakistan 3 cheezein dekh raha hai performance supply line aur tot.. tot mushkil hai bs
WS-13-E ❤
Chinese engine is better option.
KIA Pakistan khud engines khud banay k leya kam kr raha ha???
G han per us ke liye Punjabi ki gaandd me se oil nikalna parega tab thrust generate hogi engine me
JF 27blovk 3 looks will be similar to block 2 ???
From outside it looks almost the same. Cockpit layout is a bit different and modified.
Transfer of Technology kyun nahi karta
Because china will not give it to Pakistan, that is guaranteed,
Bat Rahi hai Kya technology aby Pakistan Apne Ghar men soi bhi nhe banata har cheez men china china china itna nikhatto country Dunia men nhe hai
Why not ask China for the tech. of WS-13 engines ?
They will never give it to Pakistan, but Russia can, as already given a lot of technologies to China, Ukraine, india and Belarus , RD93 TOT is best option.,
What do you think the odds of a SU-35 license production deal with Russia are? Pakistan is on a solid track to get exports to Russia up to 4 Billion per year in the next few years (Pakistan already has a trade surplus with Russia since major oil import deals were not done)......so expect more TOT/license production defense contracts between Pakistan and Russia in the future.
I think the Pakistan air force should prefer the Chinese WS-13E engine if it becomes reliable
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Pakistan🇵🇰 ko 100% TOT ❤k sth lana chahaye...!!
Can someone share dry & afterburner thrust of Rd093, Rd 93ma and Ws13e engines...?
Yeah there's a guy named google or Wikipedia
@@asimjabbar8445 udr WS13e aur rd93ma k thrust figures nhi hain 😔 Aur jo pocha wo btao ni pta to apna kaam dekho fazool suggestion na kro😌
@@arceuslee7087 dramay bazi na kro sb likha hua hai. Even Bypass ratio r thrust to weight ratio bhi did hui hai. WS-13 ka thrust thorha sa zada hai lekin weight bhi zada hai to thrust-weight ratio similar hen. Lifespan bhi Chinese engine ka km hota hai as usual 3k vs 4k hours.
And I haven't seen any engine named rd-93ma. But there's rd-33mk whose thrust is 7% better than the rd-33. rd-93 ka upgraded variant bhi asa hi perform kry ga. Rd-93 is basically an rd-33 engine of MiG-29 with slight changes in the placement of gearbox. Baki actual thrust figures meny koi zubani ratta nahi lagay hua.
There's nothing called ws-13e. As far as I know. China is not interested in this engine at all. Ws-13 was made for JF-17 and China doesn't have any thunder in their inventory. They are probably more focussed on the next gen engines for J-31/35 which would have similar profile but better performance required for 5th gen fighters.
@@asimjabbar8445 To thrust figure likhtay hue mout par rhi thi, itna drama kyu kr rhe simply thrust figure likh do and rastay lgo.
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@@nishantshrivastava9674 5 G Pakistan Mai....?
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@nishantshrivastava9674 mere side mobile data ki speed 109mb hai and what's ur data speed on ur mobile data ? And also meray pass 1gb fibre optic speed hai india may kitni speed hai Broad Band ki ?
Rd 93 q jab ws13e engine block 3 k Liye choose kia gaya tha to
They make good helicopters these days
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Chinese engin is the best option
Kehte hain Jet Engine bnana atom bomb bnane se bhi mushkal hai
Nhi bhai......... Engine bnana atomic sy b zyada musqil hota hai.....
Yahi wajha hai k ab taq khan tayara abhi taq nhi banna...... Uss ka engine nhi develop ho pa rha
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China will never give it to Pakistan WS13 TOT, but Russia can, as already given a lot of technologies to China, Ukraine, india and Belarus , Russian RD93 TOT is best option.,,
Yea RD93-MA fuel khata nhi peeta hai...........aur yea engine JF17 k aesa radar k lia underpowered hai........they should enploit something other than rd93........
Your reasons for adopting Chinese technology are very convincing. But if Pakistan is interested and gets offer from Russia for joint production of jet engines their technology can be used as base version in the Pakistan Aviation Industry as the Russians have an experience of several decades in engine manufacturing.
There won't be any such offer.
We purchased billions of dollars of military jet from Russia but engine tech was always heavily guarded and not shared.
Nobody shares engine tech.. if u don't believe ask china for tech of WS13 engine
@nishantshrivastava9674 India is already making RD33 engines under TOT from Russia. Deal is going on for manufacturing of French Saffron engines for Refael.
It is not impossible, specially Russia is offering TOT options to retain it's presence in front of it's competitors.
@@yassermalik8751 If We had Russian RD 33 tech, u think we would be struggling in kaveri engine?? 😅
Let me tell u a secret.. they all pretend to share 100 percent technology just bag multi billion order.
We just assemble RD33 and AL 31, only 55 percent of AL 31 engine parts are manufactured in India, rest of 45 percent critical components directly comes from Russia including engine core, turbine blades and FADEC control system.
They don't even share machinery which would manufacture those hot section of engine which most difficult thing to master. They don't share know how of making superalloys which can withstand 1400°C for atleast 2000 hours.
@nishantshrivastava9674 But that is a possibility incase when engines TOT is an additional clause to secure a bulk order of jets sale deal. If talks are going on specifically for engines TOT only you cannot skip the main objective. Secondly Pakistan is already thinking to acquire Chinese engines, and this would a last chance for the Russians to keep themselves in and keeping in mind that the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex has a number of export orders for JF17s in hand.
Any way the initial step may be an assembling setup. Hope understood.
@@yassermalik8751 What was ur last RD 93 order??
We order 900 AL 31 recently.. Before that 900 AL 31 were ordered since 2004 😆
It doesn't matter.
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ws 13 is more viable but russian engines have more power and thrust
Ws13 engine used krna chahiye Russia war mein hai woh engine de nhi skta
Timl and quick update bay teapo
In Sha Allah India Will Become An Islamic Republic
India ye RD93 engine pichhle 25 saal se bana raha hai unhone ye engine tejas mein istemal kyu nahi kiya ?
They make rd33 not 93
@ India Su30mki ka bhi engine bana raha hai pichhle 30 saal se lekin tejas ke liye unhone American engine hi choose kiya pata nahi kyu
@ cause they are dumb now they can’t even get those engines due to supply chain issues 😂🤣. Whole tejas program is a joke.
@@ahleQadyaniyat Licensed manufacturing krte the.. critical components engine k aaj bhi Russia se aate h. Koi engine ki technology share nhi krta.
American engine ki quality aur life Russian engine se 3 guna juada h.. so unhone jb offer kiya 1980s me to hm mana nhi kr paaye. Wo chahte the ki hm Russian jets kharidna bnd krke khud ka jet bnaye.. hme bhi iss deal me fayda nazar aaya aur unhe bhi laga Russia ka market kharab hoga to aur kamjor hoga😊
In Sha Allah Pakistan 🇵🇰 Will Conquer Kashmir And India
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Aap ka her future analysis ulta hota hai ap ne kaha tha pakistan j10 nai le ga us ne liya. Ap ne kaha tha pakistan project azm per twaja dy ga or chinese j35 nhi le ga wo b pakistan le rha hai.... Lahaza apna analysis kr k video upload kiya kren.
Bhai, Hum na tu koi Military Officials Hain aur Na Hi Hamary Opinion pr PAF Decision leti hai..... Waqt k saath saath Naey Challenges ko ley kr Faisly lenay partay Hain... Jo baat aaj Sy 3 Saal pehly durst ya ziada Viable ho, hu skta hai Woh aaj na ho....
Iss video mein bhi mukhtalif points k saath suggest kia hua keh Chinese Option ziada suitable hai, agr AP ko Russian option ziada suitable lgti hai tu aap us ko 2nd krny k liay apni opinion rakhny mein Azad Hain...
Aur har video mein ki hui baat ka Woh purpose nhi hota Jo commonly smjha jata hai....
With Russia yes but RD93 is not good WS13 was better but Pakistan wants to get away from China then go ahead but with Russia we need tech not engines…Old engines…
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تحریک لبیک پاکستان زندہ باد سعد حسین رضوی زندہ باد پاکستانیوں کی امید تحریک لبیک پاکستان زندہ باد
Chal nas
Bhai pahala hi bol data hu 😂😂😂 russia nahi daga engin
Russia ne endia ko nh diya😂😂hum Pakistani🇵🇰 💪hain tens na ly Russia 🇷🇺 janta ha 🇵🇰 kitna imp ha is region main😊
tum ek number ke ghanta dimag wale defence expert ho jo engine technology me china ko Russia se aage bol rhe ho
kabhi AL51 ka naam bhi suna hai ?
Al51 or 41 dono hi ghatiya engine hain 😂
Bruh? Kabhi Ws15 ka naam suna hai...? China started replacing AL31 with ws10 engines which not only outperformed al31 but also al41, ghanta dimag usay keh rahe tumhara dimag kitna kaam krta..... China kya pagal hai jo single enngine J10c ko aisay waisay engine se equip kr de ga. Koi to improvement ho hi ghi na over AL31
pak
ترکی کے ساتھ 5 جنریشن جہاز کے لئے بھی ھمیں ws13 لینا چاھئیے
Pakistan is using French, American, Russian and Chinese engines from 50's, but we are still unable to even produce simple spare parts for these engines !
@@AchouseCompany-qv4xs I don't know what are you saying bro engines are complicated and costly but we should start with small engines first
China will never give it to Pakistan WS13 TOT, but Russia can, as already given a lot of technologies to China, Ukraine, india and Belarus , Russian RD93 TOT is best option.,
china is working on there engines they won't pass it
y 75 yrs... still unable to build engine for car, train, aeroplane and jet..
is not a good sign
still dependent on super power countries
For example Just look at Germany & Italy they started with tractors &, then cars now they can build jet engines
WS 13E/ IPE. Enough of Russian crap
ws 13 ziyada fuel khata hai aur range bhi kam hai
right now Pakistan using russian engine klimov in JF13 and j10 is using ws series engine j10 fuel 5000 litre capacity jf17 3000 litre capacity jf17 range radius bigger almost double of the j10 1500 range radius j10 can carry more its heavy fighter with 13 hard points jf17 is lighter with 8tto 9 hardpoints
you can check the comparison chart of jf17 and j10
Chinese
Rd-93 sabse ghatiya engine hai 🤡🤡
Why not develop and devote energy and brain 🧠 cells to develop our own engines of fighters air crafts and civil carriers engines and air planes ✈️.
Pakistan is developing engines, but it takes decades to make a viable engine. Pakistan needs engines in the mean time.
Bravo😂.......yea idea tou hmay aya hi nhi😂😂😂
Crystallographic machine hoti tou bna b lyta Pakistan........ Pakistan has brains for it but resources are very low😢
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