His painted paintings are pretty appealing. I imagine the drip ones are if seen in person. In a thumbnail they just look a mess, but a lot of paintings or other artworks is totally different to stand in front of it. Then you’re like, oh, that’s why people are impressed! It’s amazing how ready we are to dismiss things without examining them first. How ready we are to assume we must just be vastly smarter than the average expert. Not saying that never happens, just weird how many people think that’s the case about themselves the majority of the time.
I find it totally inappropriate. besides the fact that Pollock's musical tastes are very well known (he loved New Orleans music... but I understand it would have been weird to see him painting with Bunk Johnson as soundtrack, even if that kind of music shares several point of contact with Pollock's work - texture complexity, poliphony, absence of any form of aestheticism and not academic attitude ...) there are several exemples of more appropriate music. this one being one of the most obvious: ua-cam.com/video/44Gr91bcoRY/v-deo.html...
I have, on my walls (and I'm actually counting right now, too) 8 Jackson Pollock prints/posters. He's always been a seminal genius, to me, but little did I know that, in comparison with what I only have in miniature on my walls by him, most of his greatest works were HUGE! Gargantuan! almost stretching from one end of a house all the way to its other end...!!!!!!! ❤🙏😇
The late Mexican painter Jose Luis Cuevas, once told in an interview that he really enjoyed this movie at it's time. A he also said that Pollock learned from another important Mexican painter and muralista David Alfaro Siqueiros.
It's fantastic! I like it a lot. This scene is depicting that Jackson finally got the exact moment when this painting was supposed to take form. It was the moment, it was THAT moment. Like in psychology, it meant a flow state for him, where every thing was going to run well now. But, also, represents very well the relation with his wife: At the very ending we can see how this woman was able to understand Pollock with no words implied: She Knew that He's just finished. "Done is what has to be done". A woman as a support. Maybe the only one able to understand him. I think Jackson "found" the best woman he could all across the canvas X-D
Interesting interpretation. What this scene means to me is how important it is to wait to become aligned with my vision before attempting execution. When I do that, I create based on inspiration and it feels like I'm channeling rather than efforting. Bliss!
La Velocita! Speed of execution, Spontaneity, no Hesitation. Before Inspiration turns to Calculation, Miscalculation. Dionysian Action Painting. Dionysian Action Painting is an Art Form capturing feelings, rather than figures. It is the sublimation of the beast in Man, into Art. The Artist, under the influence of alcohol, is suddenly gripped by a fever-like desire to express himself in visual art. He does not know himself what the subject will be, but he knows that it is there, waiting. He abandons everything, rushes to his studio and grabs any available medium, whatever: A car bonnet, a lid, an ironing board! All is transformed, redone, re-valued, infinitely ennobled. Spontaneity is the essence! Suddenly IT comes: The Artist becomes a medium himself to an unconscious raw-energy, is attuned to a Divine Will that drives him on to complete his expression in a few seconds. No hesitation is the secret. For hesitation means calculation; and that is often miscalculation. As the Zen archer hits his target without aiming, so Dionysian Action Painting is executed blindly - and suddenly: it is there! The Artist hits that apple perched precariously on his own head!
Well to be fair, this is a fictional representation... he actually took several days or longer. A recent scientific analysis of the mural revealed that some of the first layers of paint had dried completely before subsequent layers.
Well said but in practice absolute crap. It didn’t happen that way and calculated efforts were vital and did happen. The rest is propaganda. Swallow at your own peril. Many did. You did. I don’t.
The painting was not done in one night, despite the many rumors surrounding its creation. It was completed over a period of several weeks, and every few days, the most recently painted bit was allowed to dry. Therefore, when it was finished, the oil paint was almost entirely dry already and could be easily moved.
If Pollock were alive, I bet he would think this thing that Ed Harris created (let's assume Ed did the whole thing, and why not, since anyone can be an artist) was a fine piece of art. Harris or you or I could be a painter of some degree if that's where our minds/souls/emotions were focused. To say Ed wasn't capable of making an excellent piece of art is snobbery. And even if I'm wrong about Ed, I do know for sure that he's a fine fucking actor and has been ever since I first saw him in Creepshow 1 (1982) of all movies. Glad he survived a headstone falling on his noggin. He SORELY deserves a fuckin Oscar. Every person in Glengarry Glen Ross will be an Oscar winner at that point. Alec Baldwin may never get one, but his best scene according to almost everyone was in that flick.
Harris captured tge essence of the isolated tormented artist......as an artist with many of these conditions conditions experiences....the rhythm over flat muted stages of mental instability can be attributed fuel the art mimic it even
Actors are artists, artists are actors, writers or artist etc. It’s funny because I’m not a good writer but sometimes I have a knack for writing in the style of great writers without being too cliché or a plagiarizing poser
Right after 2:40 you can see some black drips that are dried, and the yellow paint covers the drips, which I think is funny because this scene is supposed to be JP painting this in one sitting.
a painter sculpted a picture so moving it stood the test of time passings shared freely getting bigger like a family photo framed for guest for gatherings ignoring the controlled issues long as their dreams came true....and face page turning book in forgiveness....
I saw a documentary on the restoration of Mural and what they discovered dispelled this story that he painted it overnight. Anyone have any info on this?
Beautiful scene. However, it should be noted that the implication here that he burned through in one go is not sustainable. He apparently worked on it for weeks; or perhaps we should say, over weeks, not for weeks. Perhaps it was a matters of hours rather than days, but over weeks.
I get that. But they're making a drama, not a documentary. The scene would have far less emotional punch if it depicted the creation process being dragged through the weeks. Just my 2 cents.
@@Brandon-tk2rw it makes sense but it's is also deeply wrong. it is an ideological view of art and a stereotype about Pollock that wasn't a fictional character but a real man and a real painter. I imagine that they didn't think they were betraying something important, but they actually did. They could have easily said the same thing with a more appropriate painting (blue poles?? number 31? lavander mist??) that, being made with dripping and with another kind of paint, could have been done in a comparatively short time - I can expect a dripping painting being finished in one day...and with such a fury
There’s a video on UA-cam about a museum that examined and restored the painting, and dispelled the myth that he did it all in one night. It’s an oil painting and has layers, each of which would need to dry. Still an astounding piece of video, if only for the thrill we get seeing the painting take shape.
@@DreamingCatStudio it is obviouslly technically impossible to paint such an oil painting in just one night - whoever has tried painting with oil, even one time and just for fun like myself can understand it. :)
they found it had been touched up subsequently, but was probably mostly painted toward the deadline. It's been established that a dated postcard from July of that year says he "began" a painting but that he may have only stretched the canvas at that point
This conservation work revealed several layers of dried oil paints, without the distinct colors being swirled together, suggest that the work was not in fact completed in one day as had previously been thought, but rather was completed over a period of weeks, and was left to dry for several days between each session.
theironpumpkin sadly not. Analysis of the painting in more recent years has clearly shown it was painted over quite a number of sessions. Even Ed Harris acknowledges this in a talk about Pollock and ten mural from 2013. BUT, as a piece of legend and cinema the one night session does work so much better.
Damn Ed Harris can act, and paint. That is the story but the Getty restored this painting and the drama of a one night masterwork could not have been the case with the paint used.
@@BlantonDelbert It can happen, but paintings often were rolled for transportation. Makes it more convenient to transport. He painted "mural" on canvas precisely to make it transferable.
Brazil UA-cam TV Well I'm actually a little confused 'cause after doing some research in some pages here and there some of them say that "Mural" 1943 was painted with house painting, enamel (WikiArt) while others claim it was done with oil, as you say, and water-based painting (Khan Academy) and the official website mentions oil as the medium used. It's weird when you think of the time of drying it took, though, a slow drying might have implied a total mess, while a fast drying (e.g. acrylics) couldn't have allowed these colors be blended. Regarding the medium Ed Harris himself used in the movie, I have no idea
Mostly oil paint with some casein & a little house paint. see UA-cam video: Exploring & Conserving Jackson Pollak's Mural ..from Getty Conservation channel
For artists, the most inspirational... heroic... epic... changed history
I'm a big Pollock fan and that particular piece is among his best works.
What does it convey to you?
His painted paintings are pretty appealing. I imagine the drip ones are if seen in person. In a thumbnail they just look a mess, but a lot of paintings or other artworks is totally different to stand in front of it. Then you’re like, oh, that’s why people are impressed!
It’s amazing how ready we are to dismiss things without examining them first. How ready we are to assume we must just be vastly smarter than the average expert. Not saying that never happens, just weird how many people think that’s the case about themselves the majority of the time.
What a breathtaking moment to have witnessed the moment she knew he was done and looked at it. What a brilliant artist.
The music on this scene is truly inspiring. It really does complement the beauty in his discovery moment. Thanks for sharing this.
@gooKi momor He changed art history. You didnt. Case closed.
Don’t take your pain out on other people. I’m guilty of that sometimes too. Breathe, realize you’re valuable, and go forth being your lovely self.
I apologize for that bitter response to your comment. I really enjoyed this scene and your comment.
I find it totally inappropriate. besides the fact that Pollock's musical tastes are very well known (he loved New Orleans music... but I understand it would have been weird to see him painting with Bunk Johnson as soundtrack, even if that kind of music shares several point of contact with Pollock's work - texture complexity, poliphony, absence of any form of aestheticism and not academic attitude ...) there are several exemples of more appropriate music. this one being one of the most obvious: ua-cam.com/video/44Gr91bcoRY/v-deo.html...
I have, on my walls (and I'm actually counting right now, too) 8 Jackson Pollock prints/posters. He's always been a seminal genius, to me, but little did I know that, in comparison with what I only have in miniature on my walls by him, most of his greatest works were HUGE! Gargantuan! almost stretching from one end of a house all the way to its other end...!!!!!!!
❤🙏😇
I love this scene so much. There are too few moments in film of artists creating, and this one is a doozy! ❤️ Thank you for uploading.
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The late Mexican painter Jose Luis Cuevas, once told in an interview that he really enjoyed this movie at it's time. A he also said that Pollock learned from another important Mexican painter and muralista David Alfaro Siqueiros.
It's fantastic! I like it a lot. This scene is depicting that Jackson finally got the exact moment when this painting was supposed to take form. It was the moment, it was THAT moment. Like in psychology, it meant a flow state for him, where every thing was going to run well now. But, also, represents very well the relation with his wife: At the very ending we can see how this woman was able to understand Pollock with no words implied: She Knew that He's just finished. "Done is what has to be done".
A woman as a support. Maybe the only one able to understand him. I think Jackson "found" the best woman he could all across the canvas X-D
Interesting interpretation. What this scene means to me is how important it is to wait to become aligned with my vision before attempting execution. When I do that, I create based on inspiration and it feels like I'm channeling rather than efforting. Bliss!
La Velocita! Speed of execution, Spontaneity, no Hesitation.
Before Inspiration turns to Calculation, Miscalculation.
Dionysian Action Painting.
Dionysian Action Painting is an Art Form capturing feelings, rather than figures. It is the sublimation of the beast in Man, into Art.
The Artist, under the influence of alcohol, is suddenly gripped by a fever-like desire to express himself in visual art. He does not know himself what the subject will be, but he knows that it is there, waiting. He abandons everything, rushes to his studio and grabs any available medium, whatever: A car bonnet, a lid, an ironing board! All is transformed, redone, re-valued, infinitely ennobled. Spontaneity is the essence! Suddenly IT comes: The Artist becomes a medium himself to an unconscious raw-energy, is attuned to a Divine Will that drives him on to complete his expression in a few seconds.
No hesitation is the secret. For hesitation means calculation; and that is often miscalculation. As the Zen archer hits his target without aiming, so Dionysian Action Painting is executed blindly - and suddenly: it is there! The Artist hits that apple perched precariously on his own head!
ua-cam.com/video/UbqlBFHUy88/v-deo.html
Well to be fair, this is a fictional representation... he actually took several days or longer. A recent scientific analysis of the mural revealed that some of the first layers of paint had dried completely before subsequent layers.
Well said but in practice absolute crap. It didn’t happen that way and calculated efforts were vital and did happen. The rest is propaganda. Swallow at your own peril. Many did. You did. I don’t.
The painting was not done in one night, despite the many rumors surrounding its creation. It was completed over a period of several weeks, and every few days, the most recently painted bit was allowed to dry. Therefore, when it was finished, the oil paint was almost entirely dry already and could be easily moved.
Correct...the colors would run and mix , you need drying time in between...
I thought he was painting with enamel paint or alkyd? Ask this question as an interested beginner.
If Pollock were alive, I bet he would think this thing that Ed Harris created (let's assume Ed did the whole thing, and why not, since anyone can be an artist) was a fine piece of art. Harris or you or I could be a painter of some degree if that's where our minds/souls/emotions were focused. To say Ed wasn't capable of making an excellent piece of art is snobbery. And even if I'm wrong about Ed, I do know for sure that he's a fine fucking actor and has been ever since I first saw him in Creepshow 1 (1982) of all movies. Glad he survived a headstone falling on his noggin. He SORELY deserves a fuckin Oscar. Every person in Glengarry Glen Ross will be an Oscar winner at that point. Alec Baldwin may never get one, but his best scene according to almost everyone was in that flick.
It's beautiful.
Thankyou for uploading this
Harris captured tge essence of the isolated tormented artist......as an artist with many of these conditions conditions experiences....the rhythm over flat muted stages of mental instability can be attributed fuel the art mimic it even
Leaving it all on the Canvas.. I love it ❤️❤️🖌️🎨
Ed Harris is the Greatest American Artist ever! At the end of the western world We have our epic ED HARRIS ..just the best x 17
He is Awesome ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤.
Great mind at work.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤.
For an actor he has good control over the brush.
they used a clear plastic transfer of "mural" to help Harris block in the moves
He is a painter too
Actors are artists, artists are actors, writers or artist etc. It’s funny because I’m not a good writer but sometimes I have a knack for writing in the style of great writers without being too cliché or a plagiarizing poser
A source of inspriation for artists
Amazing what a speed .
one of my favorite dark movies
He was fantastic in this role…so was Marcia Gay Harden. ❤️❤️
Right after 2:40 you can see some black drips that are dried, and the yellow paint covers the drips, which I think is funny because this scene is supposed to be JP painting this in one sitting.
It’s house paint it would have dried fast
Grazie ed una serena nottata
Great movie, but also sad!
영상이랑 그림도 젛은데 음악이 진짜 찰떡임
I wonder what happened to the version of the mural created for the film - or any of the other paintings. Anyone know? I can't seem to find out.
Go Ed! 'The Artist As Genius'.
What a crock.
Marsha Gay Harden was fabulous as Lee Krasner
MGH won the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress!!
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Go Jackson go
How did they get this canvas out of the apartment?
Is Ed Harris’s version for sale? It would be a relative bargain I’m sure.
a painter sculpted a picture so moving it stood the test of time passings shared freely getting bigger like a family photo framed for guest for gatherings ignoring the controlled issues long as their dreams came true....and face page turning book in forgiveness....
Our winter percussion ensemble theme
I saw a documentary on the restoration of Mural and what they discovered dispelled this story that he painted it overnight. Anyone have any info on this?
At 1:35 he sees and rest is just making it visible.
Beautiful scene. However, it should be noted that the implication here that he burned through in one go is not sustainable. He apparently worked on it for weeks; or perhaps we should say, over weeks, not for weeks. Perhaps it was a matters of hours rather than days, but over weeks.
I get that. But they're making a drama, not a documentary. The scene would have far less emotional punch if it depicted the creation process being dragged through the weeks. Just my 2 cents.
@@Brandon-tk2rw it makes sense but it's is also deeply wrong. it is an ideological view of art and a stereotype about Pollock that wasn't a fictional character but a real man and a real painter. I imagine that they didn't think they were betraying something important, but they actually did. They could have easily said the same thing with a more appropriate painting (blue poles?? number 31? lavander mist??) that, being made with dripping and with another kind of paint, could have been done in a comparatively short time - I can expect a dripping painting being finished in one day...and with such a fury
I can believe he did that all in a short span but my big painting six by eight feet is not going so fast lol but I work on it sporadically.
There’s a video on UA-cam about a museum that examined and restored the painting, and dispelled the myth that he did it all in one night. It’s an oil painting and has layers, each of which would need to dry. Still an astounding piece of video, if only for the thrill we get seeing the painting take shape.
@@DreamingCatStudio it is obviouslly technically impossible to paint such an oil painting in just one night - whoever has tried painting with oil, even one time and just for fun like myself can understand it. :)
Then why are art store employees amazed when I ask for large canvases?
It was thought that Pollock painted the Guggenheim Mural in one sitting, but that's been disproved.
I disprove of the approved
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they found it had been touched up subsequently, but was probably mostly painted toward the deadline. It's been established that a dated postcard from July of that year says he "began" a painting but that he may have only stretched the canvas at that point
Just like the myth of Jack Kerouac writing "On the Road" in one night. Not true.
This conservation work revealed several layers of dried oil paints, without the distinct colors being swirled together, suggest that the work was not in fact completed in one day as had previously been thought, but rather was completed over a period of weeks, and was left to dry for several days between each session.
Great scene, and truly inspirational, but obviously the mural was no painted in one day or even two. it took weeks for that amount of layering.
No it was really one night...literally. By all accounts Pollock had worked furiously on it right before the deadline.
@@theironpumpkin you may want to check your so called accounts.
theironpumpkin sadly not. Analysis of the painting in more recent years has clearly shown it was painted over quite a number of sessions. Even Ed Harris acknowledges this in a talk about Pollock and ten mural from 2013. BUT, as a piece of legend and cinema the one night session does work so much better.
You’re correct!
So is this movie shown in art class?And if so in what context?
Represent modern art movement.
This picture needed tremendous restoration. Bird droppings, exposed to Winter and summer heat. Not an easy task.
Damn Ed Harris can act, and paint. That is the story but the Getty restored this painting and the drama of a one night masterwork could not have been the case with the paint used.
He was vary good in The Rock.
how did his shadow move before he did
Say WHAAAAAAAAAT???
It's just the light effect . I was thinking the same
anyone know what painting is this?
Mural
Mural .tis docu.mented.u tube
How-the-hell did they get a painting this large out of that small apartment?
His apt.was actually the TARDIS.
It's on canvas. It can be rolled.
@@vksasdgaming9472 Rolled? Wouldn't that mess up the painting. Clement Greenberg was against such transportation of canvass.
@@BlantonDelbert It can happen, but paintings often were rolled for transportation. Makes it more convenient to transport. He painted "mural" on canvas precisely to make it transferable.
he did not paint it in one night
He made a phi sign, oh dam
are you the actor ? you paint a good painting j
Just look at him work.
how did the paint dry so fast? he used oil paint
No, he didn't use oil. He used enamel, what you can name... industrial painting. ESmalte, no sé si hablas español.
Eduardo González Only in his other paintings he used enamel but on this one he used oil
Brazil UA-cam TV Well I'm actually a little confused 'cause after doing some research in some pages here and there some of them say that "Mural" 1943 was painted with house painting, enamel (WikiArt) while others claim it was done with oil, as you say, and water-based painting (Khan Academy) and the official website mentions oil as the medium used. It's weird when you think of the time of drying it took, though, a slow drying might have implied a total mess, while a fast drying (e.g. acrylics) couldn't have allowed these colors be blended. Regarding the medium Ed Harris himself used in the movie, I have no idea
he really didnt do the entire painting in one night, that is a myth...
Mostly oil paint with some casein & a little house paint. see UA-cam video: Exploring & Conserving Jackson Pollak's Mural ..from Getty Conservation channel
1:30 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He was a talented artist but he was a jerk. You can't help but be fascinated by his works of art. He was still a jerk.
So was Michelangelo, and Bela Lugosi, and Charlie Chaplin...
Its hard to separate the two, but the person and the work really are two different matters.
Yeah he was an drinking problem with a paint brush. Reconcile or romanticize that how you want but it doesn’t diminish the art.
Famous artists seem to rarely have happy personal lives
The Jim Morrison of painting.
Mural, 1943