Sonic Forces Music You've Never Heard
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2022
- If your main exposure to the Sonic Forces soundtrack was through gameplay, then there's a good chance you've missed out on a lot of it. Many stages can be completed before the accompanying song fully loops, leading to a lot of unheard music. I've put together this video to highlight those overlooked compositions.
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Imagine putting your heart and soul on the soundtrack and later finding out that it was used for like 15 seconds...
Red Gate Bridge 💪😔
@Neon Studios factual
Big arms from sonic generations be like
@@cxthednalien lmao
I’m surprised Tomoya Ohtani hasn’t left Sega after that.
Dude manages to squeeze every ounce of enjoyment out of THIS game, what a chad
Truly a legend
a true optimist
That's just what it means to be a sonic fan
@@taguulima6279 He's also a realist.
The Game itself seems Bare Bones when simply Playing it but if you dig deeper there’s Tons of interesting Stuff. That’s why I actually Like forces more than your average Sonic Fan who hates it as much as Eggman Hates Sonic.
If there's one unanimous POSITIVE agreement in terms of Sonic, it's that the music rocks. And most definitely will in the years to come.
Sonic Eraser truly has the best music in the entire series. Especially the versus theme.
@@CreepyboomGamer the fact that somebody would appreciate the OST of a game like Sonic Eraser just comes to show
unless you're one of the 0.01% mentally challenged of the fambase that thinks sonic forces has bad music like i've seen on reddit
We can’t use that and high HD graphics as an excuse to defend / shill for most of the newer crap we get from sonic nowadays, also y’all hate Chronicles’ soundtrack.
@@calebproductions1264 no one is using that to defend shit games, atleast not here.
I didn't know until now that the piano version of Fist Bump plays in the cutscene selection menu, the official Sonic UA-cam channel released the track as if it was going to play in a very dire moment in the game.
oml yes this exactly. i remember watching that video when it first came out and commenting something along the lines of “i’m wondering when this will play in the story, because with something this emotional it has to have an emotional moment to go with it right?” haha nope. it’s a menu theme.
@@quillquail this would go well for if any of our Rookies/OCs were to have an emotional moment, idk, there's so many things you could make of it and it's... Sad that it wasn't used for anything that drastic
Perhaps it was once intended for that, but when they rewrote the game's script, that cutscene was removed?
@@nevereverrgreen They rewrote the script?
The firs time i heard that song was in the sonic forces menu theme for sonic world because i never got the chance to get forces
5:00 Finally, some appreciation for the piano version of Fist Bump. I genuinely used to fall asleep to that song. So gorgeous.
I'm REALLY glad that the cyberspace osts seem to be 1 minute loops at best, to match the short length of the stages. The use of arsenal pyramid in forces was a crime 😢
Getting less music isn't a good trade even if most haven't heard the full versions.
@@genyakozlov1316 true i guess, but I think it's smart to appropriately time the osts for their part of the game. It's not like frontiers is going to lack music, the 150 count is huge, so I'm very much on board with a more clever balance of track lengths
@@genyakozlov1316 i'd prefer less music in a song then music i won't hear cus it'll cut off personally, plus if it means shorter cyberstage levels, which i have a feeling are gonna be the worst parts of the game, then I'm down for it
@Dank Harvey I understand, you also get many hidden gems like red gate bridge and the piano rendition of fist bump, but... I think hearing it all in the game (or at least most of it) is more respectful to the composer who made the music to fit the stages, that's his job. I also don't personally see how having shorter loops is necessarily a bad thing, considering that some of the best compositions in the gaming industry, even within the series, don't go past a minute
I'm not so sure that will be the case all the time. Sky Sanctuary one definitely seems to go on for much longer than you'd ever hear playing, unless you're dying.
Fun fact, thanks to programmer oversight, you can actually listen to Red Gate Bridge during the Metal Sonic bossfight itself, if you die in the second phase of the bossfight.
I didnt know that(since I never died at that part)
Fun fact: apparently, according to the soundtrack commentary, Red Gate Bridge was one of the first songs composed for the Forces soundtrack. It was initally composed to try and get a feel for the tone of the what the whole soundtrack would be. It wasn't made with the intention of being in the final game, but Tomoya Ohtani liked it so much that it did, for less than 10 seconds...
Based on the song, that origin story kinda makes sense. I've tried playing it on the piano, and it has an incredibly simple melody, and it makes sense that a basic composition would be made for something that wasn't intended to be any thing more than a test song. I'm glad it did make it into the final game because this song bangs
This Soundtrack promises a much more Deep, tragic, epic and longer game than what it is
Exactly. The OST sounded like it wanted to tell a dark and serious story but nope. They add to go the safe route instead.
Geez... If only Sonic really got tortured and Tails went crazy and lost it losing his best friend.
Great story telling wasted.
😭 Pain…
@@Zylo82That's only the English script, but yeah, it could have been a Unleashed-like story.
@@BoredSquidward they could've kept Sonic and Tails missing throughout most of the game. You as the Avatar, you literally have to put an effort to piece the clues together to find both of them.
And even if you did manage to find Sonic, you still can't do anything with him cuz of how badly hurt he is. He needs time to recover.
Same with Tails and helping him regain his confidence and hope.
@@Zylo82 He helped his friends along the time, now they are helping him back. That would be awesome.
Forces music extending way past what you actually hear in game reminds me heavily of the Big Arms remix from Generations 3DS. It has a breakdown section about 3 minutes into the song, when the boss itself is about 45 seconds long. I'm not sure which composer is going this hard on tracks that no one will ever hear in game, but I'm very glad they are and I hope Sonic Team will make stages and bosses long enough to fit the entire song in the future.
The in-game loop also omits the last part, where the instruments for super hard.
The Big Arms fight was well over six minutes for me on the 3ds 😭
It was a remix done by Cash Cash and Jun Senoue they did fantastic on that song and Radical Highway
For me the break in the middle of Infinite's theme at the "who is gonna save you now?" part is so brutal and a great breakdown part, too metal for what I expected from Sonic. You could hear that part in the Infinite Challenge in Speed Battle.
ama keep it real... it's cringe 💀
Infinite’s theme might be edgy, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t a banger.
I love that theme. I don't care what anyone says or the fact that people say it's cringy. I love it and no one can stop me. It acts as an exact opposite to Fist Bump and that's the role it plays in Sonic Forces.
I'm Here is leaning more into Metal vocals and I'm here for it!
@@mechashadow I see what you did here
I feel like you're one of the only Sonictubers who manages to voice your issues with Forces, whilst fully appreciating the game's strengths alongside, and for that, I respect you a ton.
Agreed. Many UA-camrs are way too rough on the game, and I doubt some of them even played it for themselves and are just regurgitating what they hear from other people online. The measured analysis here is refreshing. Not taking a dump on it and not giving it a pass either.
Forces is pretty much held back hard by it's incredibly short development time relative to other modern games.
@@Alovon Wasn't it in development very long time?
@@miimiiandco.8721 Two years were spent on the new engine they made for the game, and the other two years were spent on developing everything else. So Forces wasn't in development since Lost World.
@@wanderingshadow1372 it was actually a 4:1 ratio of dev time on HE2 and Forces. It's surprising that forces turned out as polished as it was.
The sonic forces reimagined mod definitely helps since it seems tp increase the stage length. Therefore letting you hear more of the songs.
To sorry if that was rude
Where is this mod and is it worth buying Forces on steam to get the mod?
@@KipsterMc it’s only a demo but yea it’s definitely worth it
@@KipsterMc
ua-cam.com/video/-6LVot-GcWY/v-deo.html
@@kirayoshikage5001 I'll probably wait until they add a few more stages and Forces goes on sale again but it looks incredible!
About Red Gate Bridge:
It is one of, if not the oldest song on the Sonic Forces soundtrack. As mentioned in his commentary in the soundtrack booklet, it's a remnant of sound director Tomoya Ohtani's initial vision of the soundtrack, based on the themes given to him by the director.
Regarding Battle with Mega Death Egg Robot:
The two guitar solos are actually both part of the song. Both the in-game and soundtrack versions of the song are edited down. The in-game versions loops the first half of the song, while the soundtrack loops the second half. The full version of the final phase appeared on the Vinyl Cutz vinyl album release.
3:51 I love how super sonic just bodies 4 missiles to the face like it’s nothing 😂
he could've bodied more
Yeah, it's almost like he's super or something.
ain't no way super sonic is like sonic, but super
It’s rather rare when you find a UA-camr who you almost ALWAYS agree with, Not just that, well explained criticism and enjoyment, Good and well timed jokes, and just overall really good videos. Honestly you are really a good UA-camr.
Somehow I initially misread this as "a UA-camr who you always ALMOST agree with", which changes the meaning significantly!
Never liked the early 3D era games, never was a fan of generic rock music, or how much it's taken over the franchise after the Dreamcast era, and _even then_ this guy is consistently the MOST agreeable person that I disagree with, it's so _weird_ to explain
17:01 Null Space is without a doubt my absolute favourite track that was completely wasted in the final product. In a way, it reminds me a bit like Hidden Palace Zone from Sonic The Hedgehog 2 (or track 10 in the original genesis version). A full, complete and very different yet beautiful song plays for what could essentially be a full level of mystery and somberness. In Sonic 2, Hidden Palace Zone was removed but remains in the final game as just a glitchy and unfinished mess that can only be accessed through Debug mode. In a way, I’ve always wondered if Null Space was the same case, an actual level put into development but scrapped at the last minute… however, somewhere deep in the game’s files exists a glitchy, and unfinished stage.
The song however just also doesn’t feel like a traditional Sonic song. Its somber, empty, and so mature that it makes me believe that Forces wanted to be that mature Sonic story that was completely squandered. Now in post “Starfall Islands” theme world for Sonic Frontiers, it just puts into perspective that Null Space was what Eggman explained “A void where absolutely nothing exists”. Hence forth, what Sonic Forces fails to be
Check out Sonic 06s OST "End of the World OSTs " I'm pretty sure this is a reference to that song .
I absolutely ADORE Null Space and even the unused dialogue that it had. Apparently it was intended to be so much longer there was a bit more to the strip of cubes you ran on I believe, it's been awhile since I've actually seen it so I don't fully remember. I've always loved this game's soundtrack and I'm happy you brought attention to it.
I will never understand why Null Space had so much stuff cut from it. If anything, it should've been a full level with Sonic and the Avatar escaping in a separate level. That would've made their escape more exciting
@@KipsterMc Me either. It's such a cool concept. I still think the idea of Infinite is cool but they mishandled him and made his "death" extremely strange in that, while he had a line with him declaring he could still fight and didn't want to have whatever happened to him, it was still way to mishandled and many mistook it as him running away.
@@ALMOSTNKKD Yeah it's been 5 years and I still have no idea what happened to Infinite at the end. It's kind of implied he might've died, but there's no actual answer as to what happened
@@KipsterMc Kept vague enough to be left up to interpretation but so unclear most completely took that scene very incorrectly. And what's left to interpret is WAY to vague lol. I hope he comes back and they actually do him justice. I also wish Episode Shadow made it much more obvious that Shadow had killed Infinite's entire squad, that of which the comic showed he cared about- it's just a mess. He and Mephiles deserve justice. Although Mephiles technically got it with Memphis Tennessee lol
@@ALMOSTNKKD by how the songs have this overarching depressive tone at points. I'm wondering if there was at one point, an actual proper point where we were supposed to believe sonic was actually dead. and a length of game time was meant to be spent as just the avatar. Up until something happens that makes sonic comeback alive, or learned to not have died.
What if the cut to black text , WAS the parts of the game cut. Because it felt like forces had a massive scope, and especially with these song parts in mind, it confirms that the scope was massively down scaled. Resulting in the entire script being a frankinstin monster of changes to try to get it to fit with theidea.
19:37 This part of Mortar Canyon and onwards is just so beautiful :,)
Mortar Canyon is my second favorite song from the game 😊
Imaging a timeline where the devs were able to get more time on working on the game, and where the levels ended up being longer, the story being more coherent, thought out, and kept that doomed wartime feel that forces was advertised to have.
Okay this is a genius video idea lmao
yooo it’s the Endless Inside guy
easter egg
Bro, you really showed me how good, no GREAT, the soundtrack is. I didn’t even know some off the music is different between the complete album and the one on Spotify.
Thanks, man.
He really showed me too.
With a couple exceptions, pretty much every track in this game slaps harder than the game itself
The complete album is on Apple Music, even the cutscene music is there. Hope this helps you listen to this amazing soundtrack! ❤
Arsenal Pyramid is my favorite song in the whole OST. It really shows the strength of Ohtani’s composing skills. The way the violin meshes so well with the guitar creates 2 melodies that empower each other. Also the piano at the beginning is so pulse pounding.
That bonus stage gameplay at 11:30... It's jaw-dropping honestly.
I think you are the only person who has bothered to master this game's bonus stages, and you're making me want to try them now!
bro drank that fire immunity I potion
The Null Space theme definitely gives me Sonic 06 - End of The World vibes (In Amy's level especially), and I freaking love that.
This man could make an video of sonics schoolhouse and it would still be an banger
Much like cybershell eh? Lol
sonic 3 bonus video
Funnily enough, Null Space is actually a part of Fist Bump's instrumental. It's at the part right before the guitar solo towards the end of the song.
I was so satisfied when I first noticed that
The soundtrack is equally if not more important than the gameplay itself. I find that even if the gameplay is lacking, the music keeps you drawn in. Good video even though I haven’t fully watched yet lol
Ok, I get appreciating the music but it is never more important than gameplay. I wouldn't say it's even close to gameplay
@@Barmeecarba Depends on the game. Heavily.
@@Barmeecarba It's not about either. Both gameplay and music, as well as artstyle and story, all exist for the sake of atmosphere, or vibe, which to me is the most important part of all pieces of art as well as most things in the real world. Forces has the vibe I like nailed down, but Shadow the hedgehog is still the best at it and therefore my favourite Sonic game. American version of Sonic CD also has great vibes.
@@genyakozlov1316 Well, unless you're a rhythm game. In that case, everything revolves around the music.
@@Eldoofus unless we're talking rythm games, Soundtrack and Visuals are the icing, Gameplay is the cake, Plot is the filling, especially for a game so heavily based on movement as Sonic. Just look at 06: arguably the best soundtrack in the series and yet it did not save it. I am not one to beat a dead horse and I do think 06 has its good aspects, but it still falls in the most fundamental area and does not rescue itself with a really good plot (2/3 of it have great character developments, but the plot itself is all over the place).
i love the spotlighting done here. i remember the hype of hearing all the extra OST stuff on the album release. big shoutouts to red gate bridge especially, i always thought it kinda sounded like a Blaze intro cutscene, like she was supposed to be in this game too or something
My favorite version of Fist Bump will always be the original with the vocals. I know the lyrics are cheesy but it fills me with so much joy
Couldn't agree more!
Honestly my personal favourite sonic ost ever. So many good songs with some exceptions being certain classic sonic songs. Glad you shined some light on an ost that needs that popularity
Well I disagree, it's definitely a great ost.
7:10 I do remember this one in the days before Sonic Forces released. This was one of the games we could play on the show floor so I kept my ears open for any sonic bops. Removing the lead synth was a brilliant move to let the backing take over and sell the emptiness. One of my fave things to do with music.
Network Terminal is my fave stage partially due to the inside song sounding like grungy song from the Sly Cooper soundtrack.
I LOVE how you synced up the gameplay with the music. So so good. Makes it all come full-circle
Well, a few random things I want to say here.
- When I first heard this game's soundtrack back in its post-release infantry I heard only snippets of songs and thought the soundtrack was nothing special (I don't own it), but after properly hearing Aqua Road in 2021 and listening to more of the OST I now regard it as a soundtrack truly worthy of the Sonic name.
- I'd heard the theatre music before but I never even knew there was a theatre. Neat.
- Good _Lord_ Null Space got underused, that would've been such a cool stage theme to listen to! Honestly they could reuse it for Frontiers, I'm down.
- Some elements of Mortar Canyon remind me of worship music, I'mma just say that.
- I used to look at this as a truly mid Sonic game, but with Bickuri showing me what good the game can actually offer it makes me want to play it myself and give it a fair shake.
- I am making so many more spelling mistakes than I used to, someone help me.
That Infinite's Beginning cutscene orchestral piece was god tier. And Null Space sounds like something out of Hollow Knight. The Red Gate Bridge was also a neat piece that I have to keep track of. Also LMAO no classic music.
While I'm personally not overly fond of a lot of the lead techno instruments in the soundtrack, this definitely gave me a few songs to add to my playlist
That piano version of Fist Bump has always been my absolute favorite piece of music to come from this game. It's always reminded me of the piano version of The World Adventure from Unleashed.
Or I am... All of me
“It’s a game about a hedgehog running in levels that last about a minute at most, don’t make the songs too long and don’t go too hard”
Tomoyo and his team:
I keep trying to get into Forces’ music but I just cant. I like the compositions but the instrumentation and sound mixing always gives me an actual headache whenever I try and listen with headphones. There are a handful of songs I can really enjoy though.
Too much synth?
@@Eldoofus yeah, the sound mixing also bugs me though, the drums seem way too loud and harsh to the point it makes my head hurt. And thats coming from an avid metal fan
Hey I respect that dude like I enjoy it but I can totally get what you mean lol it's a bit too much sometimes
btw what are your favorite songs ?
@@duuudewazzup8296 to be entirely honest with you and I know this is a bizarrely unpopular opinion but I think my favorites are the classic sonic songs, minus Faded Hill cause that one sounds like some major ass. But Lost Valley is probably my overall favorite and the only other song I really ever come back to besides Infinite’s theme
As someone that likes Sonic Forces, seeing such amazing well thought out videos dedicated to it means a lot. Thank you my dude 🙏
I honestly think if they swapped the synths out with a violin or trumpet (depending on the song) and I think this could've been one of my favorite Sonic OSTs
FR
21:00 FINALLY!!!
People have been sleeping on this track, it's so Underrated!
ALL OF THE YES!
this is actually sick im someone who constancy listens to sonic forces soundtrack on Spotify so I've known some of the things you revealed but it's so cool to see you put so much effort into this good job. this also makes me happy because I actually quite like the forces soundtrack aside from some songs. now more people can experience the beauty of some of the good in this game. this is officially one of my favorite sonic videos because there are a lot of sonic forces music I didn't know was a thing.
Your analysis of sonic music are my fav types, keep it up 🙏🏾
I don’t know how you did it, but your two videos on Sonic Forces literally made me want to play it again, so I went and bought it on Steam since it was on sale, and downloaded some swanky mods (namely Forces: Reimagined) which improve the experience tenfold.
So, in other words, thanks for these videos!
I never realized how much of a banger Null space them was, kind of makes me wish we had a whole level in there
I've listened to the album WAY more than I have played the game itself.
The song to the shadow v infinite cutscene is amazing. I love how they symbolized shadow with throw it all away and the ended it with infinites theme. Pretty cool.
I'm very happy that you are recognizing Sonic Forces as a game. Diving into level analysis and music and it makes me so happy. I love Sonic Forces, it's my first, and will always be one of my favorites (especially because of some of the music). Also I never heard the instrumental Fist Bump for Super Sonic, and I agree this is awesome guitar. This kind of guitar I always love in music.
This is without a doubt the most underrated Sonic soundtrack and all because the game itself messes with it
This is DEFINITELY one of my favorite soundtracks of the series (disregarding the classic sonic tracks because YIKES)
I feel like they were trying to represent that techno-distortion vs nature and humanity vibe in the music with how it has dubstep and orchestral elements merging multiple times, which i find really cool as I don't think any other sonic ost has really been this dynamic with the games themes aside from the obvious storybook series
As someone who grew up with the Modern era Sonic games, when I played Forces for myself, I ended up being surprised by how much I liked it. The music especially, caught my attention and its soundtrack is right there alongside Adventure 1, 2, and Unleashed's as some of my most listened to Sonic music. Thank you for highlighting these gems for people so they can hear them, too! Sadly, the general reception for Forces wasn't the best, so I doubt many people go back to it. You're a cool person, and I really do appreciate this!
Another thing I like about the SXSW fist bump version is that piano ending
Hey, thanks for making a whole video on this topic!
The Forces ost has always fascinated me purely because much of it is never heard in game due to either length of stage or just not being in the game
I've always wanted to see a video where someone truly breaks it all down and this is just that.
Okay but holy crap??? 12:30 up to 14:00 THIS WAS LEGIT SO DAMN GOOD????? 😭 if only the cutscene was just as grand like oh my god the wasted potential
MAN don’t even bring up the Null space music 😔 we could’ve had Sonic and the Avatar going through it with Infinite in there UGH
Two things to note: final boss' phase 1 and 2 themes play in same tempo as Infinite's theme (140 BPM) while phase 3 theme plays in Fist Bump's tempo (217 BPM) plus you can find acapella version of Fist Bump chorus in game files so technically Fist Bump is the first Sonic song which got "official" acapella version.
OK 12:40 infinite theme is one I've never heard ngl, I always love your vids and how you look for the roses in the thornbush that is sonic forces, kudos
oml i thought i had heard everything there was to hear about this soundtrack, but apparently not! this is a really neat video, and a special thank you for pointing out that one cutscene track, i never heard that throw it all away motif before, i find that genuinely really cool lol.
I'm glad that I wasn't the only person that enjoyed the Forces OST to the point of binging the entirety of each track until the end.
This is one of my favorite soundtracks so im glad to see you talking about it
Excellent video! I always felt like Forces' music was underappreciated, or at the very least over-hated. I'm glad you showed off more of this game's soundtrack.
One other song I'd add to this list is the piano/instrumental version of "Light Of Hope", the title screen song that plays after you beat the game. The vocal ver. of Light Of Hope gave me a lot of "Dear My Friend" vibes from Unleashed, which is another overlooked Sonic sing IMO.
The title screen version of it just hits differently though. It wouldn't sound out of place in a Kingdom Hearts/Final Fantasy game, and that's a good thing.
I absolutely love the Forces OST, despite what many others think about how it sucks how it's not fitting for the games blah blah blah, this video is something that while I personally knew about all of these (except the cutscene music, nice catch!) I'm glad to see others get to hear what they missed out on.
Great video! Loved this one and the Forces Level one too
Last Judgment is my favorite level theme in Forces, and it’s almost entirely due to the second half and that crazy piano. It’s not Eggmanland or Terminal Velocity, but it’s still an excellent, heavily-underrated final level theme.
It feels so relieving to see someone do this game some justice- as bareboned as Forces is, it's my favorite game because of its music- it's very inspirational, my only wish is for a day where someone releases some bass tabs for the themes...
Fist Bump has got to be one of my favorite game themes. It's such an upbeat, incredible tune- its so motivating, and the guitar-dominant Super Sonic spin on it is REVELATING.
I used to sit on the theater scene for hours with it playing on our television, just to listen to it loop over and over while I drew. Its an incredible rendition.
Im so glad someone made a video on this because god damn does this game actually have some good music thats just never shown in game 😭
Red Bridge and the outside Arsenal Pyramid music are just so damn good. And so under used. This game is a crime for the most unused potential in a sonic game
The sonic forces reimagined mod has much longer and more detailed levels, so you’re able to actually hear a lot of the later parts of the music. It really helps you understand what they were trying to go for, especially with how well the mods levels are designed.
im so glad you brought up aqua road specifically as that's my favorite song from the entire ost
also as a note, sonic forces reimagined actually redesigned arsenal pyramid and aqua road so that not only are the levels themselves better, but you get to hear the full songs and it just makes those two levels so so SO much stronger in my opinion
also how does last judgement somehow sound both like lost world's final boss AND a kirby song at the same time lol
honestly ive listen to a bit of forces ost outside the game and honestly when i heard mortar canyon i loved it so much
I’m glad you made a video like this, hell, I was going to do a similar one myself. While I wouldn’t say I’m a massive fan of the Forces soundtrack, I think it’s got some REALLY good gems sprinkled in there. I’ve always been a fan of the orchestral pieces in the soundtrack, like the Theme Of The Resistance, This Is Our World and others. Personally, if the whole soundtrack tried to sound more cinematic like those ones (or mixed that style with others), I’d probably like the OST a lot more.
Glad you gave the rest of the soundtrack some spotlight, there’s some great talent on display that some I didn’t even notice! Nice one.
bikuribox12 making me into a forces fan just by how infectious his passion for the game and franchise is.
If you guys want to hear the full ourside track to Arsenal Pyramid, try the reimagined stage mod.
The stage has been extensively lengthened at the beginning, while the interior has brand new sections and additional details (like some allied NPCs running behind you at the end of the stage.)
Multiple stages has had that same treatment, Aqua Road and Sunset Heights notably being impressive, so look them up when you get the chance.
always loved this soundtrack but it's crazy there is so many more amazing OST i never heard from this game, thanks for bringing them to my attention lol the piano fist bump is amazing
Over the past few months (y'know, leading up to the upcoming release of Sonic Frontiers), I have found a new appreciation for Sonic Forces, despite my strong feelings regarding its initial release. In other words, as time progressed, I've been able to find even *more* ways to be highly optimistic for the future of Sonic, beyond what I first expected and imagined. _(Please note that I was already looking forward to Frontiers very much, but these recent Forces retrospective videos have only helped cement my positive feelings further.)_
Furthermore, thanks to you, Bickuribox12, I feel far less dismissive towards Forces' OST and level design, as there seems to be genuine merit in some aspects, especially considering the perplexing (and likely difficult) circumstances behind its development. Although I've known the awesomeness of the Final Boss themes, this video taught me a lot more about Forces' music.
While I currently don't enjoy all of its themes (the vocal themes simply aren't my preferred style), overall, Forces has a pretty good OST. I really enjoyed listening to "Final/Last Judgement," and the interior theme of Network Terminal reminded just of Sonic Adventure 1, which greatly surprised me.
Wow, hats off to you for putting in this much work to notice so many small details! Fantastic video.
one thing sonic will never disappoint in is music and this has never been more clear to me than now
i had NO idea the album had a different guitar riff for the final phase. greatest sonictuber
I LOVE YOU I AM SUCH A BIG FAN OF YOUR CHANNEL this is an absolute GEM of a video it's so wholesome to see someone actually appreciating sonic forces without being blindly defensive of it. It's just an unfortunate game, but there's lots of stuff to love about it!
I'd like to pose a question, at the risk of sounding dumb perhaps, but is your name a pun with the term "big curry box"?
Thanks dude! Keep making awesome awesome perfectly edited vids :)
The bleak part of Arsenal Pyramid has always been one of those bits I often went back to listen to. I feel like it's one of the few times where the game really does sound like the world is in despair from the doctor's rule.
Unpopular opinion but I do like the synth used in this game. Sure, it can be a bit overbearing in some tracks, but it helps give this game's OST a unique sound that most others don't have and is one of the few thematic ties between the story and gameplay that really sticks the landing.
I love it! Sonic’s stage music are the ones I like the most
Honestly the "overused" synth never really bothered me + it kinda makes sense when you realize it's the same synth used in Eggmanland in Unleashed
Since now the whole world is supposed to be Eggmanland,it's kinda fitting for the synth to be so present
I’ve loved this full soundtrack since 2017. Nice to see someone appreciate these underrated tracks as well
It’s been said before but the grating synth in most of these songs kills any enjoyment I might get from the actually competent compositions
Sonic 4ces
I was utterly shocked when I heard the full arsenal pyramid theme in Forces Reimagined. This games soundtrack really does not get enough credit. (Speaking of, have you played that mod yet? Seriously some good stuff.)
Why is it almost always like this? The quality of soundtrack completely overshadows the quality of the rest of the Sonic game. Now it feels like music is the only good thing about Sonic (even if it's not always the case).
21:57 I remember discovering this on the soundtrack and falling in love with it. Like imagining characters fighting with in the background obsession
I think for the final boss phase 3 guitar differences, it could definitely have been done to transition better into the Triple Boost, it flows a lot more naturally with that build up. Personally I would’ve had that as part of a loopback on the soundtrack (first is the in game version, then the loop back is the soundtrack version leading into triple boost)
yeah forces music definitely grew on me but one thing I'll NEVER understand is that they mademusic twice as long as the stages. like why?
The Frontiers cyberspace music is probably going to be the same case
Because in game dev, the composers and level designers aren't usually the same person.
@@Color_Splsh yeah i know but I REALLY wised that they told the composers "ay the level is probably gonna be this long" so we won't be missing much of the such
@@DeskoDev sadly
I wanna give this guy the utmost respect for finding things to actually enjoy out of both Lost World and Forces.
Can’t say the same for the gameplay itself…
Null Space and it's music just really gives me "Dreams Deep" vibes from Mario & Luigi. They even use similar warped purple effects and empty but beautiful music.
It’s surprising how many people did not know these things about the ost. Honestly I thought everybody knew most of these already
I don't know how you did that but DID YOU SPEEDRUN THE WHOLE GAME!?
mad respect to you, sir
fun fact: if you search "edgiest song ever" or "edglord theme" infinite theme is what you get
I’ve always adored the soundtrack for this game.
The songs for the levels are great, the songs that play when you fight infinite are superb, and Infinite’s theme is PHENOMENAL. When I listen to it, I feel like nothing can stop me.
Fist Bump is a great culmination of the game itself. It’s catchy, has good lyrics, and the instruments sound great.
The INSANE guitar riff in the final boss music made me ascend while playing.
And my favorite song of them all: The Light of Hope.
It’s a perfect ending to a Sonic game, even if it was in a pretty mid game. Everyone pulled through and they’re still here, there are still obstacles to overcome, and the heavenly piano and vocals make it one of the best ending songs in all of Sonic.
This game is proof that no matter how bad the game is, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a Sonic game to have bad music, especially when Ohtani is composing it.
If only SEGA could do better with managing this IP and Sonic Team give more time to polishing that said product.
That's the problem, mediocrity should not be rewarded, goodness should.
Sonic is not just one project, it is an unorthodox special case that had room for improvement.
Please do a top boss fight themes, it would be fascinating to hear you discussing that.
Man, seeing these usually unheard portions of songs overlaid on top of relevant gameplay REALLY makes me wish we got to visit these stages longer.
Even as someone who has listened to a lot of the official soundtrack, I definitely learned a few things here. Never listened the whole way through Network Terminal Interoir or heard the different guitar riffs in the final boss. Awesome appreciation video.
As a side a note, do you think the Infinite Monster things in Capital City are reused assets from an unfinished Chaos fight? Every time I see those dudes, I can't help but think of that lol.
Hmm, interesting thought on that last bit 🤔
@@sweetoil2952 I think I remember seeing a video awhile ago of some dude who was looking around at stuff in Forces with a free-cam mod of some kind. He went inside one of the Infinite Monsters and it was blue. I'd have to do some searching to see if I could find it again.
EDIT: Found it lol. Around the 6 minute mark.
ua-cam.com/video/7ENbJ6P1-5Y/v-deo.html
@@pickledood1013 Woahhhhh. That’s both cool and devastating at the same time 😓
I’m thankful I downloaded most of the soundtrack a few months ago because there’s so many good tracks.
Extremely glad I found your channel, this stuff ROCKS
That alternate final boss riff is INSANELY cool in it's own unique chaotic way I love it
Infinites theme in its entirety fucking slaps in every way possible I love it. I love it so much.
THIS is what I come to this channel for. Interesting takes, well thought-out explanations, sharp humor, and those sweet sweet vocal inflections. I'd take a bickuribox12 over an AntDude any day of the week.
Cmon why bring down AntDude.
@@gamingnubs7628 Sorry dude, he just really pisses me off. He's just so bland and generic, with the most cookie cutter opinions and takes, no charisma and charm, and the most unfunny, repetitive jokes I've ever seen. He doesn't even have any interesting facial expressions or vocal deliveries. Just that same boring face delivering the same boring jokes in the same boring voice. He is the anti-bickuribox12.
Here, let me give you an example. In his Generations mods video, he makes this "joke" when talking about a Wave Ocean mod:
"Sonic 06 is a bad game. Thanks for watching the video." * cuts to end card *
Wuh....w-what the fuck was that? Putting aside the fact that that joke format is really overused among youtubers, what the fuck was the point there? Is he trying to be contrarian? That's fucking stupid, Sonic 06 is still constantly hated on to this day. Is he just beating a dead horse? Congrats then, his jokes are so repetitive they repeat stuff from more than a decade ago, and it puts down people who actually like 06. Nice.
His last video I watched was his boost games completion vid, and it impressed me by having literally every annoying generic take on the boost games that exist, coupled with unfunny rehashed jokes. Werehog bad, Forces bad, "tHAT loOkS LikE a HomiNg sHot", etc.
You can like whoever you want to like, and at the end of the day this is just my opinion. I just rly needed to get this off my chest.
What did antdude do to you
@@nobodycares607 He killed my mom, fucked my dog, and wasted an hour of my mortal life.
Sonic Forces really is just a really good instrumental rock album that had a game with a bunch of little tastes of the music in it to make you wanna buy the music huh?
I knew about all of these except for final judgement and the infinite cutscene music and those hit me especially hard
Great video!
this game had such great potential. It always makes me sad, yet giddy with excitement when I think about what could've been.