Haha thanks! I guess my channel is sort of a niche within a niche. I guess a lot of guitarists prefer the more classic guitar stuff. Also, extremly good players seems to do better on the platform. Tim Pierce, Pete Thorn and Paul Davids for instance. Whilst my skills are more in the creative yard than with the guitar itself. I dunno, many factors I guess! I also hear a lot of people say it's very difficult to get to a 100K subs. After that it's easier to grow. That's what I've heard at least. Cheers man!
@@LivingroomGearDemos Man, it is never about the subs/views. Most popular UA-camrs are boring and lack creative content. I think you are total opposite. I understand you get paid less but man, I would rather watch you than 1 milion sub guys. Rock on!!!
a lot of high subs channels have very clickbait-y titles. They would have titled this video "I FOUND THE BEST AND ULTIMATE BEDROOM AMP" without giving away the video is about the Gremlin before you click, which in the end drove me away from those channels. Please, never fall into that trap.
You missed using the guitars volume-controls along with your "touch" for cleaner tones. The best way to use an amp like this is to turn the amp's volume up higher than you intend to play *MOST* of the time, and *THEN* roll-back your guitar's volume-knob and adjust your "touch" for clean tones- and then roll it back up to graduate through from clean-ish to mean to scream, then kick in a pedal for "Beam me up, Scotty!"
I’ve seen some great reviews on the Imperial and the Gremlin, but the Falcon seems to have a lot more complaints. I can’t afford an imperial but I need to be able to play over a drummer. Thanks for the video!
Great demo I just bought used the tone king gremlin In turquoise…no less…love it…I too had a falcon grande not imperial but the 20 watts even at home attenuated was too loud…..this is a better option..great job..🤙🏻
The problem is not only the power of the guitar amp but also the quality of the drummer. A good drummer should know how to play at different volumes. I've seen too many drummers playing too loud.
Yes I've had a Gremlin head for a few months now I'll over it so I ordered the last matching brown and tan 1/12 cabinet Just noticed you had the tube compliment wrong The heads ship with a 5881.... combos the KT66 So have you tried a 4/12 ?? Surprisingly loud Plenty loud for drummer and gigs Great demo my man Cheers
Been using a slightly modified 5F2A (same circuit) for years. I bumped up the filter caps on the output which tightens the bass response and dropped the cathode bypass cap on V1 down to 1uf or thereabouts which kills a lot of the gain, giving it ~60% clean headroom. 12" speaker (WGS G12Q) and it does almost all my small venue gigs with a drummer and vocals just fine. Unmic'd its fine in pubs and bars and mic'd with in-ears its w/e it needs to be. If you want cleaner cleans or more fidelity for the ambient stuff then more tubes and bigger transformers help.. but for most blues/indie stuff 5w is plenty.
Totally different, so much more sound design goes into guitar tone and changes a lot, multiple times per song. You can’t figure out if the tone sounds good with the drums unless you can hear the amp. Unless you want to waste an unrealistic amount of time sound checking. Even then, who wants to go to the trouble to mic up their amp every time they practice?
Låter asolutt Tip Top, denne ampen!!!! For dem som trenger mer headroom i en lav-Watt amp så anbefaler jeg å sjekke ut Swart STR Tremolo. Min absolutte favorittamp. Med 6L6 powertubes starter breakup betraktelig seinere når man skrur opp volumknotten...
So I really wanted to ask if you like the speaker in the TK cab...I have a Mojo Tone 2/12 w old 73 Vox alnico gold's and that sounds really good too Had them match it w brown tolex to match Matches my 61 Princeton tremolo as well Might try a small stereo set up too...so would be the TK 12 and the Fender 10 w tremolo Will be interesting Should have the TK cab by Monday Best wishes and great demo
Was the drummer playing at normal gig level (loud) or was the drummer playing quieter than gig level? It seemed that your guitar didn't cut through well. Thanks,
Big Question, where are these Tone Kings made ? It's just amazing to me that when you go on the big online stores like Sweetwater or GC they never tell you in the product listing where it's made, I mean come on it's one of the most important factors in buying decisions . Peace !
Great video man! I think one could use it as a preamp plugged either into an fx return or into power in (I think you mentioned the latter) but even into the input of solid state perhaps just to push the preamp section and give that tube feeling!
@@ClaudioMartella …no it’ll be too loud..I owned a tone king falcon grande 20 watts thought the same just way too loud even at lowest attenuation…so I got the gremlin after selling at a loss the grande…but that I expected ..I learned go with the gremlin which I have now…5 watts with attenuation much much better…for home use..hope this helped ..Glenn🤙🏻
Sounds like a sweet little amp! I think for me personally I’d still want something with a little more headroom. But I’d like to have a tone king in the 20-30 watt range someday!
Think you have to own it and try it to know, and of course depends on how loud your band is! I have a different 5w class A amp that is loud enough to jam with easy. I have a 20w tube amp that doesn't sound any louder.
Really depends on the circuit I'm thinking M Bartel made these really good and think took this into consideration With a drummer that has no dynamics and just slams all the time No Way But roots rock or blue's this thing is good to go I've tried it w 4/12's and unbelievable loud
I think it’s better to compare this amp to the fender champ than the imperial. It’s a similar tone but it’s less complex and less powerful like how the champ is less powerful and complex than the Princeton.
The tones and info are always great…but live players knew the answer before the video started. With PAs and silent stages, the gigging world has evolved, but 5w is always going to be a practice or recording amp unless it has some help.
Its not a question of volume. With the right speaker you can push 100-110 db w 5 watts no problem. W pa’s too it makes gigging w 5 watts no issue. The issue is head room. Generally if youre doing that you dont need a clean sound, and you might have one pedal but the rest of the sound is the amp. If you want a loud clean tone then you need 20+ watts which adds 6 dbs which is enough to be perceived as double the volume.
@@Coolbeans1492 you said it...unless you need headroom. I depend on dynamics in my playing. Both how hard I hit my strings, and how the effects blend. 5W just doesn't get it done.
I am 74 with years of experience. The power from any amp may be fine standing in from of the amp but standing in the center of a club at the gig even a 30 watt tube amp will become dwarfed by the drums. The ideal is a 50 watt tube amp and add an attenuator. Odds are you will not use less than 2/3 of the power. Not having enough power can be a very expensive mistake.
Well good reason to drop a SM58 in front and put a touch out front but I agree with you especially if you're playing with multiple members getting drowned out is definitely an issue Hope all's well Paul
@@paulcowart3174 A mic in front of an amp and a sound man I do not know? LOL, LOL and LOL. The last time I agreed to that I opened for Rush when I was in the UK Prog Rock band Tallis. But it was not an option. :-)
This is the first amp that truly made me enjoy the sound of humbuckers. Best dirt sound ever and it's so much thicker sounding IRL. If it was 20 - 30w with an fx loop it would be unbeatable. I plan on selling this and my matchless to buy a tone king falcon grande. Using a volume pedal with smeal one of these is fuckin dope
Have you tried it w a 4/12 cab yet Plenty loud but haven't jammed it out w a drummer yet But I play blues and roots rock nothing slamming like I used too But it's LOUD w a Marshall cab
@@jacobthomas2756 Yeah I was waiting on a FG from Sweet Water but turns out nothing till December they said So I picked up an old brown 61 Princeton tremolo Sounds so good But I have plenty of 30 - 50 watt combos.... Silvertone..Ampeg... Marshall 800...plus a 100 watt Tonemaster from the 90's so have volume covered
These Tone King amps are so sweet - and so damn expensive. I will have to stick with my cheapie, totally decent MIC Champ clone. Iron Man 2 has the best feature: Justin Hammer.
As far as with a drummer, I think it only really would hold up as a rhythm guitarist, as it's just loud enough to hear it, but it's still quiet enough to not flood the mix, especially during someone else's solo.
Stuff I use at Sweetwater: imp.i114863.net/P1KkY
Stuff I use at Thomann: bit.ly/mythomannstore
How you only have 92k subs is beyond me. Your content has fueled 90% of my gear purchases.
Haha thanks! I guess my channel is sort of a niche within a niche. I guess a lot of guitarists prefer the more classic guitar stuff. Also, extremly good players seems to do better on the platform. Tim Pierce, Pete Thorn and Paul Davids for instance. Whilst my skills are more in the creative yard than with the guitar itself. I dunno, many factors I guess! I also hear a lot of people say it's very difficult to get to a 100K subs. After that it's easier to grow. That's what I've heard at least. Cheers man!
@Living Room Gear Demos totally get that, must be the algorithm also.
@@LivingroomGearDemos Man, it is never about the subs/views. Most popular UA-camrs are boring and lack creative content. I think you are total opposite. I understand you get paid less but man, I would rather watch you than 1 milion sub guys. Rock on!!!
a lot of high subs channels have very clickbait-y titles. They would have titled this video "I FOUND THE BEST AND ULTIMATE BEDROOM AMP" without giving away the video is about the Gremlin before you click, which in the end drove me away from those channels. Please, never fall into that trap.
You missed using the guitars volume-controls along with your "touch" for cleaner tones. The best way to use an amp like this is to turn the amp's volume up higher than you intend to play *MOST* of the time, and *THEN* roll-back your guitar's volume-knob and adjust your "touch" for clean tones- and then roll it back up to graduate through from clean-ish to mean to scream, then kick in a pedal for "Beam me up, Scotty!"
Absolutely
Gremlin is killer, LOVE MINE!!
A keeper for life!
I’ve seen some great reviews on the Imperial and the Gremlin, but the Falcon seems to have a lot more complaints. I can’t afford an imperial but I need to be able to play over a drummer. Thanks for the video!
Great demo I just bought used the tone king gremlin In turquoise…no less…love it…I too had a falcon grande not imperial but the 20 watts even at home attenuated was too loud…..this is a better option..great job..🤙🏻
The problem is not only the power of the guitar amp but also the quality of the drummer. A good drummer should know how to play at different volumes. I've seen too many drummers playing too loud.
Amen Brother
If it’s too loud, you’re too old.
@@75YBA Let me guess... you are "one of those" drummers.
If 5 watts are enough to play with a drummer, you are not playing rock and roll music (or your drummer sucks)
@@djfedezaza Read my comment all the times you need to understand it.
Yes I've had a Gremlin head for a few months now I'll over it so I ordered the last matching brown and tan 1/12 cabinet Just noticed you had the tube compliment wrong The heads ship with a 5881.... combos the KT66 So have you tried a 4/12 ?? Surprisingly loud Plenty loud for drummer and gigs Great demo my man Cheers
Been using a slightly modified 5F2A (same circuit) for years. I bumped up the filter caps on the output which tightens the bass response and dropped the cathode bypass cap on V1 down to 1uf or thereabouts which kills a lot of the gain, giving it ~60% clean headroom. 12" speaker (WGS G12Q) and it does almost all my small venue gigs with a drummer and vocals just fine. Unmic'd its fine in pubs and bars and mic'd with in-ears its w/e it needs to be. If you want cleaner cleans or more fidelity for the ambient stuff then more tubes and bigger transformers help.. but for most blues/indie stuff 5w is plenty.
With a mic and a good live sound set up of course. Can a singer sing over drums? Then why should your amp have too?
Totally different, so much more sound design goes into guitar tone and changes a lot, multiple times per song. You can’t figure out if the tone sounds good with the drums unless you can hear the amp. Unless you want to waste an unrealistic amount of time sound checking. Even then, who wants to go to the trouble to mic up their amp every time they practice?
I once threw a 5-wtt amp at a drummer who was particularly annoying. It handled him fine.
RIP annoying drummer
Loved the queens
7:13 I had stank face hard. Epic tones and playing.
thanks!!
excellent review - thanks.
Another amazing review, one of the best guitar channels on youtube with excellent song writing
thanks!
1:25 sounds like Snake and the Prairie dogs by Cavetown lols
Låter asolutt Tip Top, denne ampen!!!! For dem som trenger mer headroom i en lav-Watt amp så anbefaler jeg å sjekke ut Swart STR Tremolo. Min absolutte favorittamp. Med 6L6 powertubes starter breakup betraktelig seinere når man skrur opp volumknotten...
So I really wanted to ask if you like the speaker in the TK cab...I have a Mojo Tone 2/12 w old 73 Vox alnico gold's and that sounds really good too Had them match it w brown tolex to match Matches my 61 Princeton tremolo as well Might try a small stereo set up too...so would be the TK 12 and the Fender 10 w tremolo Will be interesting Should have the TK cab by Monday Best wishes and great demo
Amazing content! What amp would you sugest for a Josh Homme tone? (on a super really tight budget, and easy to find)
Boss Katana
What song at 5:35? It sounds so good!
Hey thanks! It's something we made for the video :)
It’s so good!
Great demo Eirik what was that first guitar you used in this video with the drummer, the tele style one?
A Tonefuchs Bulldog 💪🏻 Thanks man!
Do I go for a Gremlin combo or an Original Falcon combo? For home use only. Thanks
Hmm, Falcon!
What was that octaver pedal you were using with the momentary switching?
DigiTech Drop
Was the drummer playing at normal gig level (loud) or was the drummer playing quieter than gig level?
It seemed that your guitar didn't cut through well.
Thanks,
Big Question, where are these Tone Kings made ? It's just amazing to me that when you go on the big online stores like Sweetwater or GC they never tell you in the product listing where it's made, I mean come on it's one of the most important factors in buying decisions . Peace !
From what I understand it's made in US.
@@LivingroomGearDemos Thanks !
Baltimore, MD, USA.
Yup Handwired in the USA, I just ordered one scheduled to arrive in Q1/Q2 2022! in communist 🇨🇦. You can thank Joe Biden for the delay.
Great video man! I think one could use it as a preamp plugged either into an fx return or into power in (I think you mentioned the latter) but even into the input of solid state perhaps just to push the preamp section and give that tube feeling!
Absolutely
Hey Eirik, can you suggest any budget-friendly models with the same specs ( abilities) for bedroom warriors with strict neighbors? thanks a lot.
Hey George! Katana maybe?
@@LivingroomGearDemos Thanks for the response & recommendation, I'll keep that in mind.
cheers.
“Strict neighbors!” That gave me a chuckle.
You forget that with a bass player and/or another guitar player, 5 Watts isn’t gonna keep up. My old drummer had a 70’s Vista kit w/ a 26” kick….
Good to know
5 tube watts is just enough for a drummer? Especially how about a pearl traveler set? Would a 1 watt be enough for that?
Cool
What modulation pedal did you use? Sounded great!
EHX Bad Stone and Supro Chorus
Tonekingtone isn’t that a place in Utah?? A place that sounds awesome no matter what you play. 🤘🏽
Haha!
I own an Imperial because of your videos! Why'd you get rid of yours???
because I'm stupid
and I was broke
@@LivingroomGearDemos would you say the imperial is playable at bedroom levels with engaging the attenuator and setting the volume to edge of breakup?
@@ClaudioMartella yeah man - the 36dB attenuation is a lot. You could have a conversation over it.
@@ClaudioMartella …no it’ll be too loud..I owned a tone king falcon grande 20 watts thought the same just way too loud even at lowest attenuation…so I got the gremlin after selling at a loss the grande…but that I expected ..I learned go with the gremlin which I have now…5 watts with attenuation much much better…for home use..hope this helped ..Glenn🤙🏻
Sounds like a sweet little amp! I think for me personally I’d still want something with a little more headroom. But I’d like to have a tone king in the 20-30 watt range someday!
For more headroom pick a deluxe reverb at full volume
question: it has an attenuator, can you use it only line out without a cab? (probably no)
good question. Not sure, need to check.
I haven't tried it yet either but probably w a combo it would but thinking a head no
Tweed sound is where it is at.
Sweet sounding amp! Feel like it wasn't enough for playing with drummer though.
Agreed. I think a loud bass guitar would completely swallow it up.
I have to disagree. I own the combo version and it's my main amp for rehearsals. No problem at all.
Think you have to own it and try it to know, and of course depends on how loud your band is! I have a different 5w class A amp that is loud enough to jam with easy. I have a 20w tube amp that doesn't sound any louder.
Really depends on the circuit I'm thinking M Bartel made these really good and think took this into consideration With a drummer that has no dynamics and just slams all the time No Way But roots rock or blue's this thing is good to go I've tried it w 4/12's and unbelievable loud
I think it’s better to compare this amp to the fender champ than the imperial. It’s a similar tone but it’s less complex and less powerful like how the champ is less powerful and complex than the Princeton.
The tones and info are always great…but live players knew the answer before the video started. With PAs and silent stages, the gigging world has evolved, but 5w is always going to be a practice or recording amp unless it has some help.
Its not a question of volume. With the right speaker you can push 100-110 db w 5 watts no problem. W pa’s too it makes gigging w 5 watts no issue. The issue is head room. Generally if youre doing that you dont need a clean sound, and you might have one pedal but the rest of the sound is the amp. If you want a loud clean tone then you need 20+ watts which adds 6 dbs which is enough to be perceived as double the volume.
@@Coolbeans1492 you said it...unless you need headroom. I depend on dynamics in my playing. Both how hard I hit my strings, and how the effects blend. 5W just doesn't get it done.
@@jburdsinfuse for sure. To play w dynamics and pedals you need at least 15 watts.
Great Little amp, definetely not enough to play with a drummer tho!
I am 74 with years of experience. The power from any amp may be fine standing in from of the amp but standing in the center of a club at the gig even a 30 watt tube amp will become dwarfed by the drums. The ideal is a 50 watt tube amp and add an attenuator. Odds are you will not use less than 2/3 of the power. Not having enough power can be a very expensive mistake.
Well good reason to drop a SM58 in front and put a touch out front but I agree with you especially if you're playing with multiple members getting drowned out is definitely an issue Hope all's well Paul
@@paulcowart3174 A mic in front of an amp and a sound man I do not know? LOL, LOL and LOL.
The last time I agreed to that I opened for Rush when I was in the UK Prog Rock band Tallis. But it was not an option. :-)
Best sounding amp I've owned. But not loud enough for a rock drummer. If that's what you need, look for a cheap Siverface bassman.
This is the first amp that truly made me enjoy the sound of humbuckers. Best dirt sound ever and it's so much thicker sounding IRL. If it was 20 - 30w with an fx loop it would be unbeatable. I plan on selling this and my matchless to buy a tone king falcon grande. Using a volume pedal with smeal one of these is fuckin dope
Have you tried it w a 4/12 cab yet Plenty loud but haven't jammed it out w a drummer yet But I play blues and roots rock nothing slamming like I used too But it's LOUD w a Marshall cab
@@jacobthomas2756 Yeah I was waiting on a FG from Sweet Water but turns out nothing till December they said So I picked up an old brown 61 Princeton tremolo Sounds so good But I have plenty of 30 - 50 watt combos.... Silvertone..Ampeg... Marshall 800...plus a 100 watt Tonemaster from the 90's so have volume covered
These Tone King amps are so sweet - and so damn expensive.
I will have to stick with my cheapie, totally decent MIC Champ clone.
Iron Man 2 has the best feature: Justin Hammer.
As far as with a drummer, I think it only really would hold up as a rhythm guitarist, as it's just loud enough to hear it, but it's still quiet enough to not flood the mix, especially during someone else's solo.
And obviously only really dirty, although that is where it excels anyway.
If the drummer can be tactful and not beat the b'jesus out of the drum kit then yes, I've got a couple of 5 watt amps that I can jam with a drummer.
No
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