Katherine Ryan Stand-Up | The Problem With Hamilton | Netflix
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Taken from her Netflix Special Glitter Room, Katherine breaks down Alexander Hamilton's problematic take on not being able to say no
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Remember comedy is comedy, so don't sweat it too much, and definitely don't attack Katherine. Also, remember Lin-Manuel Miranda himself has seen this very clip and Tweeted "Oh it is THE BEST."
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i feel like this is directed towards my comment since most of the other comments are just jokes lol
i wasn’t attacking Katherine, I was just mentioning the actual facts
Ashton Todarello
there’s literally no argument, my dude. chill.
Def not aimed at you or anyone in particular. Comment sections are meant to be for debate and chat so love to see it. We were just seeing some quite nasty comments (again not from you) after the Disney+ streaming so wanted to make sure people remember to stay kind.
Oooooo! Netflix in a comment battle! Gonna grab the popcorn!
Feel attacked. I'm not doing anything wrong but still. Her jokes we're great, in a few places, but it felt like nitpicking to me especially since I like to be a factually correct person. Not attacking, just my opinion.
I just noticed that maria literally sang "my husband's doing me wrong, *cheating* me, mistreating me..." and then hamilton goes and does exactly the same to HIS wife by cheating on her
letsHugElefanten I honestly thought that cheating me meant that he wasn’t doing what he was meant(aka supporting her)
- that one person - it’s there too she forgot to put it goes before “cheatin me”
- that one person - I think it goes, “my husband’s doing me wrong, beating me, cheating me, mistreating me, suddenly he’s up and goooone.”
I think cheating as in cheating her of money and support.
- that one person - he was doing that too
How did no one laugh at “he sat at home alone for about *five* seconds”
Lmao ikr
I mean. Alexander was by himself. Burr let him tell it
i laughed...
@JeremyK 541OR. Soo...you like Trump tweets?
@@jesperjee wtf are you talking about? That has nothing to do with this video or any of the comments.
Idk I might pay money to see her do Hamilton as a one woman show.
That'd be interesting.
I would watch that!
WITH outraged commentary, pls.
@@austenhead5303 Yeah, she has to make her own commentary or it won't be as fun to watch.
I definitely would lol
Petition for Katherine to do a one-woman version of Hamilton
Fuck no, That'd be dreadful.
yes please. she can also do a commentary on every part of the story and roast every shitty decision he makes.
Well, half of it 😅
Instead of the ensemble singing no in the background of say no to this it’d just be her chanting “Put your fucking dick away!”
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I went to see Hamilton the other day and had to force myself to sit quietly during that bit. A brief assessment of the room told me that there wouldn’t be many fellow Katherine Ryan fans there (or at least fellow Katherine Ryan fans who would join me in a chant of “Put you fucking dick away!”)
Fun fact when Maria says “my husband doing me wrong beating me cheating” she was telling the truth James was adusive to Maria and made her sleep with him or he hurt her child
Makes sense... instead of confronting Hamilton like a normal person he said, “lol. I don’t fuckin care, but you’re gonna pay me anyway.
i knew he was using her because he didn’t care about the wife at all when he wrote hamilton only about the money
the husband pimped her out. how is this isn't abuse?
@@conancat it is totally is abuse.
Yeah she slept with Hamilton cause her husband threatened to kill her child if she didn’t, so he could get money from him.
Fr I love Hamilton but I was real uncomfortable during this song. "But Maria seduced him and initiated the sex," yeah and she was still a completely vulnerable and powerless person depending on his "good will" for survival (at least as far as he knew).
I have listened to the musical countless times. I have listened to Say No To This once. Every time it comes on, I yell at Hamilton, “You don’t get yourself in the position to begin with, fucko!” and skip.
She was pimped out by her husband so that he could make some money. She's being used by both men. :(
Hamilton was married and had many children. Women are propositioned all the time and I don't hear those sentences carry as much weight when describing that.
At the beginning of the song Burr says "I'll let him (Hamilton) explain it". So this is the story from Hamilton's point of view, the same as the Reynold's pamphlet. Of course in this scenario he is an unreliable narrator, he twists the truth to his favour, and we as an audience understand that.
Aww.. you girls sure get worked up about some harmless, centuries old dicking, served up as soppy musical theater.
"Its vERy hard to imagine [america] like that right now..." lmao best part
I don't think Hamilton (the musical) was actually endorsing Hamilton (the person) 's behaviour.
I don't think she, or anyone else, was implying that at all.
@@kohlinoor A lot of people in the comments are.
Ehhh it did show his flaws but it was definitely pro-Hammo. It's impossible to know how accurate the historicity of the musical's portrayal of their relationship was. In the musical after she tells him of her troubles, he doesn't go straight into the "just say no to this lyrics."
Hamilton: "I offered her a loan, I offered to walk her home." He gives her 30 bucks, walks her home. When they get there...
Reynolds: "This one's mine sir."
Hamilton: "Well I should head back home."
Hamilton: "She turned red, she led me to her bed, let her legs spread, and said...
Reynolds: "stay.'"
Hamilton: "That's when I began to pray, Lord help me say no to this."
He definitely SHOULD and COULD have said no. This woman was abandoned and abused by her husband and helpless. He betrays his wife and continues to see her even husband finds out. Then he blackmails him and basically pimps Miriah out by extorting money from Hanmo.
Hamilton shouldn't be condoned for any of his behavior, but the comedian's portrayal of what happens in the musical isn't accurate. And I would be pretty pissed if I paid an astronomically shit ton of money to see a broadway musical and some other guest takes it upon themselves to ruin it for the rest of us. Tons of musicals portray immoral behavior. Is she going to scream through Rent, Wicked, and Rocky Horror?
@@raywilliams5352 I mean is that bad it is pro Hammo? He certainly did more good for the US, him cheating for a month is nothing compared to the good he did
@@raywilliams5352 wait did I miss something? When was Wicked immoral?
I hope she didn't actually heckle during Hamilton though. That's the opposite of cool. It's a good point she makes but it's not the actors' fault
Lin manuel miranda, who plays hamilton, wrote the play, so, yeah it was.
@@lizangel45 1. He doesn't in the London performances, which I think is what Ryan is referring to here.
2. Hamilton's actions aren't the writer's fault either. The way they're portrayed in the script is potentially problematic, sure, but it doesn't mean he defends them.
3. So? Yelling out like that interrupts and ruins the performance for the rest of the audience, and isn't fair on any of the cast.
i do believe it was a joke
@@gus8824 - Jesus, people. It's a comedy routine, not True Confessions. She didn't *actually* heckle it.
Imagine living in a world where comedy doesn't exist
The Hamilton bit was my fave part of the special
If you close your eyes and listen carefully after 3:55, you can hear Ali Wong... Same vibe.
Amazing recommendation, YT!
Hahah, you should watch British comedy shows. Katherine Ryan has been around a long time. America us just getting to know her.
@@JBond-zf4dj I know it sounds like I'm comparing her with Ali's comedy, but I just mean the way Katherine speaks, even the voice. Anyway, i loved her. I'll definitely keep watching her.
No, I get it, she literally is just kind of breaking out in America now, and it's awesome. Check out 8 out of 10 cats does countdown or Taskmaster!! Omg, Taskmaster is so funny. The British comedians have this amazing relationship that is so different from what we see over here. So many great panel shows. The Fix on Netflix is them trying to see if they can get some panel shows going in America, maybe?
same energy, voice
Jessica Castillo omg I thought the same thing!
i never thought about the song that way before. but she does have a point
Well she is the one bringing him to her room, spreading her legs and saying "stay", before he sings "I don't know how to say no to this"
She asked him to "stay"
"Then she led me to her bed had her legs spread and said stay"
Olivier Pynoh yeah but it’s also a comedy routine and shouldn’t be taken too seriously, in fact it should be taken the opposite
I'm Here yeah but it’s also a comedy routine and shouldn’t be taken too seriously, in fact it should be taken the opposite
I'm Here it doesnt make it right especially when he knew it was wrong
That was great. And you know she’s listen to the HAMILTON soundtrack 1000 times because she even sang that little “whoa oh” at the end of Maria’s song. Awesome!
I mean yeah, what Hamilton did was terrible, but that's kind of the point? Like it's not portrayed as the morally correct choice. He suffers the consequences of making that decision.
EDIT: I've done a lot of learning and growing in the last 11 months and realized hamilton is a piece of racist and colonialist propaganda that doesn't deserve my defense.
Ashlynn Brodie
yeah but it’s still funny that she’s taking the piss out of him
Yep and she's making fun of it that's her point
She didn't see the rest though 😅
@Maximus Amadeo r/ihavereddit
Sounds like you've done a lot of regressing.
I love this, though it leaves out the important section of the song where he gives her money and walks her home, then she leads him to her bed, spreads her legs and says “stay”, before he doesn’t know how to say no, then she kisses him. Context is key. That said, the comedy and singing are great, and she makes excellent points.
"She didn't ask anything."
She asked if he would stay though...
With her legs spread on her own bed.
yeah it’s not like she just walked into the house and he was feeling the urge to sleep with her, the lines before “lord show me how to say no to this” are “she led me to her bed, let her legs spread and said ‘Stay?’” the chorus is in response to the question “Stay?” both times in the song
with her legs spread after leading him to her bed
That's exactly what I thought. It was the woman's idea. He was still horrible to do it, but it's not the way she said it was.
Yeah ok.... there is still a power imbalance... which means it is a line he shouldn't cross.
Seen the show in full on Netflix and she is amazing, smart, funny, beautiful❤️ Love Katherine Ryan!
that 'put your f****** d*** away chant is legendary tho, someone need to put it up and use it as a sign whenever there is a march against s***** assault 😌
THAT MARIA REYNOLDS IMPRESSION-
Look, I'm all for feminism and I'm all for the humor in this, but I'm gonna have to disagree with you. First of all, while LMM didn't write an explicit question from Maria leading to consent, it was implied she was offering by leading him to her bed and spreading her legs. Secondly, "helpless" is the theme of this musical to describe attraction- it is not necessarily implying that Hamilton was taking advantage. It's clear that she was vulnerable and I agree that Hamilton shouldn't have had intercourse with her with that mental state, but a sober offer is still a valid offer. He shouldn't have accepted the offer, but the offer was there.
Obviously, he shouldn't have cheated. I'm not defending that. I'm defending that in this portrayal, Hamilton was not necessarily taking advantage.
By the way, it's incredibly rude to shout at actors- if that part is even real at all. It breaks their concentration from their character and their lines. It breaks the audience away from the plot (and for the amount of money a Hamilton ticket costs... I'd really rather have no disruptions). It doesn't make you look empowered, it makes you look like a nuisance who can't enjoy a show and has to ruin it for other people. If you can't keep critical thoughts inside your head during a show, don't go.
R Green this should have more likes
@@ejwiksten3770 Thank you, glad to see I'm not alone in my thoughts here
boooo
It’s literally a joke. Do you *actually* think she got up and started booing in the middle of it dude?? REALLY? It’s clearly a made up story, like many comedy bits are. If you weren’t able to discern that, then maybe comedy isn’t for you.
@@alliebeemac I really don't watch much stand-up comedy, but that aside, I still disagree with the point she's making.
Here’s the thing- Maria was knew about James getting money the whole time.
Actually no
Maria was do not knew about the getting the moneys I think, she just do be thot.
She's not only hilariously right. She can hold a tune. Great short
Does she not remember the part of the song “She lead me to her bed, let her legs spread and said, ‘Stay..’”??? Hamilton tried to leave.
LaneyLu 2343 well but he stayed, funnily enough
i was thinking that too like, ham tried to leave but she seduced him?
@@thumai1969 But he tried to leave. This girl is making him look like he took advantage of a "helpless woman", when actually it was the other way around.
@@tatianamoreno4880 THANK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU finally someone with sense
@LaneyLu 2343 what did he ultimately choose? To stay. We might never know if the Reynolds planned this or not, but there’s the fact that no one made him have sex with Maria. She might have coerced him into it, but she is still the one at a delicate situation here and he chose to stay. Not a good move on his part
Hamilton: An American Musical It Is One Of My Most All Time Favourite Musical
“I went to a garbage school”
Later:
Spitting facts about Hamilton
Clearly Hamilton is very educational
"Say no to what? She didn't ask you anything"
*Literally the lyrics right before that: "She turned red, lead me to her bed, let her legs spread, and said "Stay?""*
I would hate if someone stood up in the middle of a musical and did something like this, especially considering how expensive Hamilton tickets are. The actor didn’t even do anything wrong if you have a problem with what happened go stand in front of Alexander’s grave instead of ruining other people’s nights.
( I get what she’s saying because what Hamilton did was wrong but that’s not the musicals/ actors fault )
Mulberry Leaf and she agrees, she says in the show that it wasn’t fair for her to do that. But she was angry (heat of the moment I guess bro.)
Ali cruz yea but that doesn’t make it right, I mean if the tickets were cheaper it would be okay but for some this was a once in a lifetime thing that they may have been saving up for, for a long time. At least she admitted she was wrong though, many wouldn’t
Ali cruz I guess you could say she didn’t have the discipline to “say no” to being a rude person
you realize it’s just a joke, right? she did not actually do this
Historical events are not the fault of any musical. BUT, creators have a choice in how they portray events. What her bit is critiquing is the choice (or perceived choice) on the part of the musical's creators to portray an unequal power dynamic as sexy and irresistible.
This woman and I have very different memories of how this song went. Cause I remember the part where before any sex happened he gave her some money to help her out and then walked her home. And then the next line in the song is,
Then I said, "Well, I should head back home"
She turned red, she led me to her bed
Let her legs spread and said
Stay
So like, I’m not saying Hamilton shouldn’t have screwed her, and I have no idea how that whole situation actually went down in real life. But like, in the *song*, the whole sex thing was definitely not unprompted. I’m just saying
Yeaaaaah she conveniently forgets the part of the song where it literally says “she spreads her legs and says staaaay”.. but i see how none of the jokes work if you have to mention that detail 😂
I'm listening to Hamilton on Spotify...I found this in my recommendation....
Serious question, she's saying that she didn't ask him for anything, but according to the song, Maria came onto him, no?
"She turned red, she led me to her bed
Let her legs spread and said
Stay?"
Many men would say that the woman was asking for it before sleeping with her, when really all she did was wear something that fired his two-inch rocket.
@@SEGASister I hear you, and I agree, BUT I also read that at a certain point it was suspected that she was in on the ploy to extort Hamilton. Of course this may just be a rumor but I also fear that maybe people can only see women as weak, maybe she wasn't the weak one here? (But either way Alexander was the asshole who cheated on his wife, no one forced him to do it) Or maybe I'm romanticizing the idea of a badass woman using an asshole for her advantage in such a difficult time period to be a woman. Whoops sorry for that long answer 😅
This is very funny and I like it very much
The problem is the thing she's saying is very much against the lyrics from the first verse that Katherine Ryan chooses to not address:
Then I said, "Well i should head back home"
She turned Red, she lead me to her bed, let her legs spread and said "Stay"
The act is funny and I enjoy it. But it's not true, the lyrics does not support it.
"No I'm To IMpOrTaNt!" Lmao
3:55... oh my gosh!!! Shes so funny!!
A comedian telling an anecdote about them heckling some else
You skipped the part where he said
“Then I said, well, I should head back home
She turned red, she led me to her bed
Let her legs spread and said
Stay”
Hey
Wendy Garcia hey
Majestic Peacock we were singing the lyrics 😂
i’m allergic to cats ik it says hey 3 times first Maria then ham then Maria again
Majestic Peacock no it doesn’t. She says “stay”, then Hamilton replies “hey” and then she says “hey” and then he goes on to sing “that’s when I began to pray lord show me how to say no to this”
The singing...😍😍😍
Brilliant take...Ryan is amazing.
Just so you know, you’re my lullaby. I put this on the lull myself to sleep. You’re my twinkle twinkle little star. You’re amazing. I love Hamilton and I love how you shred it all.
So freakin hilarious! love her!
She led me to her bed, let her legs spread and said stay...... Imma just drop this here.
First time I'm watching this after seeing Hamilton myself and it's even funnier now XD
I feel so bad for the people who don't snort their coffee at how funny this is :D
After watching/listening to Hamilton for the first time in a year and a half I realized there are a lot of shorty things about the play that not many people acknowledge
She forgot the part in the song where Maria leads Hamilton to her room and corners him and seduces him.
So yes actually she did ask.
Sara Autio but that was his chanve to say no. Rather blame the woman blame the doer
@@tanmayeeapte2125 Yes Hamilton should've just left and what he did wasn't the right thing to do. But she's making it seem like he's forcing himself on a young girl who just wanted help. Maria was actually working with her husband to extort Alex and blackmail him. That's my problem with the comedian.
@@saraautio5693 SOMEONE said it, like did she listen to the musical or do some research or....????
@@itskiyawhitaker9222 What are you asking me?
Sara Autio sorry that did seem a bit confusing, I’m not asking anything just praising you for noticing. Rhetorical question about the comedian asked after
Katherine has the most beautiful hair!!!!
And this entire Netflix special was FIRE!!!! 🙌🙌🙌💯💯💯👍👍👍👍💜💜💜
it's when he goes 'longing for angelica, missing my wife' and then is like
fuck both of those feelings, maria is cute
Maybe you forget about the lyrics “Then I said, "Well, I should head back home"
She turned red, she led me to her bed
Let her legs spread and said “stay””
The point is that she's in a very vulnerable position and pretty clearly felt that she owed him for his help and had to somehow make it up to him. Huge power imbalance between the two...
Apart form the fact that her abusive husband also forced her to sleep with Hamilton.
So no, that doesn't really count as consent.
@@baguettegott3409 well did hamilton know that she was being forced to have sex with him? No therefore the last bit of your comment is invalid
Not defending Ham but- Ahem- *”she led me to her bed, let her legs spread and said “staaaayyy~”* I think that says a pretty clear message of *”let’s have a root.”*
Why he still took advantage the song even spells that out also he wrote a tell all book similar to kim sex tape of that time so at best he was a gross pig who cheated on his wife, blackmail or not
Is hamilton coming on Netflix?!
When she sings "Oh her body is not saying that to youuuuu" it reminds me SO MUCH OF PHANTOM OF THE OPERA (movie version)
I understand this a joke but as a poor theater kid, the idea that anyone would stand up and start yelling during *Hamilton* of all shows should be considered a fair motive for homicide.
@Tyrodins true apprentice I know she didn't actually do that, but the idea of someone doing that isn't actually that farfetched lol.
That actor must have been like :
Umm ok ok ok ok just keep going
If this actually happened, I wonder if any of the people in the room where it happened, have seen this and think, that's the lady who ruined our night at the theatre.
When I say I've watched this video I mean I've watched half of it chuss I spent the other half on the ground dieing of laughter
"She didn't ask you anything!"
I mean, she did ask him to stay...
Kinda late but the thing is (in the musical/song at least) Hamilton did just help her out, gave her some money (30 bucks which honestly is an insane amount for the time) to help her out and then walked her home cause that’s what peeps suppose to do. Then she proceeded to seduce the guy. Could’ve been that he came onto her or the other way around but can’t really know but the point is that he did help her (well as much as he could which was proper by the societal restrictions of his time).
Lin was prolly on the stage wheezing
Not only is she funny but she sings well too!
I am no historian. But I think that she is over-stating how influential Hamilton was on the constitution. He wanted the President and the Senate to be elected for life. His ideas were rejected at the convention for a good reason.
it's standup comedy relax
@@adora1335 The story of Hamilton taking advantage of a woman in an abusive relationship takes on a different meaning if you remove his image as a titan of history. A success doing evil is not the dramatic or comedic equivalent of a failure doing something evil.
"I went to a garbage school so I didn't know much about American history"
Same. I didn't get to watch it when I wanted to and found myself avoiding spoilers. 🤦🏼♀️
Nailed every second of it. So goddamned funny!
She should have told everyone the rest of the lyrics because it continues with
"My husband's doin' me wrong
Beatin' me, cheatin' me, mistreatin' me
Suddenly he's up and gone
I don't have the means to go on"
Then it continues as the following,
"So I offered her a loan, I offered to walk her home, she said
You're too kind, sir
I gave her thirty bucks that I had socked away
She lived a block away, she said
This one's mine, sir
Then I said, well, I should head back home
She turned red, she led me to her bed
Let her legs spread and said
Stay
Hey
Hey
That's when I began to pray
Lord, show me how to say no to this
I don't know how to say no to this"
Sure he did end up sleeping with her but she grosley oversimplified this and it's just not right to nitpick what you want.
Imagine being one of the audience members watching Kathrine yelling at Hamilton
Yeah, it would be the worst
I can't stop watching this! I find her hilarious :P Need to go see Hamilton now and see if i can get a chant going in her honour.
Someone give this woman a time machine
This is brilliant! 😂
Excerpt from the Reynolds Pamphlet, 1797. What's fascinating is how closely the play follows the accounts as related here:
"The charge against me is a connection with one James Reynolds for purposes of improper pecuniary speculation. My real crime is an amorous connection with his wife, for a considerable time with his privity and connivance, if not originally brought on by a combination between the husband and wife with the design to extort money from me.
"This confession is not made without a blush. I cannot be the apologist of any vice because the ardour of passion may have made it mine. I can never cease to condemn myself for the pang, which it may inflict in a bosom eminently intitled to all my gratitude, fidelity and love. But that bosom will approve, that even at so great an expence, I should effectually wipe away a more serious stain from a name, which it cherishes with no less elevation than tenderness. The public too will I trust excuse the confession. The necessity of it to my defence against a more heinous charge could alone have extorted from me so painful an indecorum.
....
"Some time in the summer of the year 1791 a woman called at my house in the city of Philadelphia and asked to speak with me in private. I attended her into a room apart from the family. With a seeming air of affliction she informed that she was a daughter of a Mr. Lewis, sister to a Mr. G. Livingston of the State of New-York, and wife to a Mr. Reynolds whose father was in the Commissary Department during the war with Great Britain, that her husband, who for a long time had treated her very cruelly, had lately left her, to live with another woman, and in so destitute a condition, that though desirous of returning to her friends she had not the means-that knowing I was a citizen of New-York, she had taken the liberty to apply to my humanity for assistance.
"I replied, that her situation was a very interesting one-that I was disposed to afford her assistance to convey her to her friends, but this at the moment not being convenient to me (which was the fact) I must request the place of her residence, to which I should bring or send a small supply of money. She told me the street and the number of the house where she lodged. In the evening I put a bank-bill in my pocket and went to the house.29 I inquired for Mrs. Reynolds and was shewn up stairs, at the head of which she met me and conducted me into a bed room. I took the bill out of my pocket and gave it to her. Some conversation ensued from which it was quickly apparent that other than pecuniary consolation would be acceptable.
"After this, I had frequent meetings with her, most of them at my own house; Mrs. Hamilton with her children being absent on a visit to her father.
....
"The intercourse with Mrs. Reynolds, in the mean time, continued; and, though various reflections, (in which a further knowledge of Reynolds’ character and the suspicion of some concert between the husband and wife bore a part) induced me to wish a cessation of it; yet her conduct, made it extremely difficult to disentangle myself. All the appearances of violent attachment, and of agonizing distress at the idea of a relinquishment, were played off with a most imposing art. This, though it did not make me entirely the dupe of the plot, yet kept me in a state of irresolution. My sensibility, perhaps my vanity, admitted the possibility of a real fondness; and led me to adopt the plan of a gradual discontinuance rather than of a sudden interruption, as least calculated to give pain, if a real partiality existed.
"Mrs. Reynolds, on the other hand, employed every effort to keep up my attention and visits. Her pen was freely employed, and her letters were filled with those tender and pathetic effusions which would have been natural to a woman truly fond and neglected.
"One day, I received a letter from her, which is in the appendix (No. I. b) intimating a discovery by her husband. It was matter of doubt with me whether there had been really a discovery by accident, or whether the time for the catastrophe of the plot was arrived."
She literally acts out the possible sexual implications and then pretends that there can be no possible sexual implications... I guess dodging accountability really is like a natural law or something.
She skipped over the part before that where he goes, "I gave her 30 bucks that I had socked away, she lived a block away, she said, 'This one's mine, sir.' Then I said, 'Well I should head back home' She turned red, she led me to her bed, let her legs spead and said, 'Stay, hey'" I think that deserves to be known, at least
I guess she missed the part when Maria asks him to “stay” (I don’t know how to say no to this).
I enjoyed the set but, yeah, checking the song, he gives her some money and walks her home before any 'say no to this' happens, but then the song is from his perspective.
@@simpleton7 Well, if anything, Hamilton is too honest...
I am not sure but I understood that Hamilton created the economic system (first treasury secretary) not the judicial, he didn't write the constitution, who wrote about the constitution in the federalist papers. Correct me if I am wrong.
While this is hilarious and I laughed a lot, she did technically ask him to “staaaaayyyy” so...
Yeah she said stay, not fck me 😂😂😂
@@highsun76 She led him to her bed and let her legs spread. I think you forgot that part.
@@brandonb.5304 Yeah, Lin-Manuel Miranda couldn't exactly have her say "Do me" but he makes it pretty clear that she was trying to seduce him.
YES! Thank you!
I grew up in a small town (I'm 14) and I just learned that there is two Washington in the USA. I have never heard of there being a Washington, DC near Virginia. I got it from Hamilton when I asked my dad ”why is the countries capital all the way over to the left when New York is to the right?”. He was so confused
"She had so many of Hamilton's kids, they named two of them Philip."
*cries*
Une deux trois...
She didn't make it to that part.
@@ikaiti9841 It sounds like she has listened to the cast recording, so there's a chance she got to that part, and just breezed over the rainbow baby thing for her routine. But yeah, she might have been more hesitant if she had heard Eliza's scream.
@@mirandabee2323 Assume she was trying to avoid spoilers.
They had to replace the first one.
Netflix to Disney+ be like: *It must be nice it must be nice to have Hamilton on your side*
HAHA
Underrated comment
🔥🔥🔥
Noice!
Talk less smile more don’t let them know what your against or what you’re for
I can just picture Lin Manuel Miranda yelling hell yes to this clip.
He would find it hilarious.
A video of him reacting to this would be awesome
It is a pretty funny clip.
Raquel Engen yesss
I wonder if he regrets not having written this in that section? It is very funny!
“No! I’m too important!!”
Alexander’s mindset for the entirety of Act 2
No. That's just not what it is. He was doing important shit, not being important. He thought the important shit was more important than his family, sure, but he didn't once call himself important.
Cosmic Honestly most of act 2 probably could’ve not happened if Eliza waited until next summer
The thing is tho he would've lost his job if he had taken a break =/
@@bronzetomatoes5613 And he would have progressed so much further in his job is he hadn't taken
his dick out, lol
it's kind of the opposite in act 1: nooo Washington I can fight I'm not THAT important
Lin, portraying Alexander: “Lord show me how to say no to this!”
Katherine: “SAY NO TO WHAT?!”
Lin: * Rips off wig * EXACTLY GUUURLL
Hyped Apple - Lin actually grew his hair out, so in my mind it looked like:
*rips off hair*
*screams of terror*
Oml yes
T. H. Oh I know that. He had a wig ready though and I think he even used it during the Puerto Rico run
Hyped Apple - ah, I see, that definitely makes more sense then
Do people actually believe the original story was a musical? Cause Lin literally wrote it himself
Simple answer: Hamilton has serious unaddressed mommy issues. He describes his wife, his mistress, and his mother as "helpless". Dude's got a complex about it.
wait when did he call his mom helpless
bees knees Maybe they’re talking about the line
“But I’ll never forget my mother’s face, that was real.
And as long as I’m alive, Eliza, I swear to god you’ll never feel so helpless”
@@decentgrocerybag4003
To be fair, he saw how weak she was when she was on the brink of death, so it's bot surprising he saw her that way
Ace Error Yeah fair.
Women had been made helpless by unfair laws. Glad he wanted to help the helpless...but not with his dick.
I feel bad for the people who actually haven’t seen Hamilton and don’t understand how this is not exaggerated 😂😂
@@kaze4223 and here I was thinking nobody here had actually seen hamilton...
ka ze so he says...
ka ze the fact that burr says “I’ll let him tell it” indicates that it’s entirely from his biased perspective and the whole story is so unbelievable I think Lin expected everyone to get that
I mean sure, but dialogue isn't really a matter of perspective. For Maria's lines to be affected by this we'd have to either assume Hamilton (as narrator in this song) is lying directly to the audience (as nobody else is listening) - or is delusional enough to imagine dialogue that never happened.
Hamilton's inner monologue is subjective for sure, but extending that to the assumption that he's lying to the audience seems a bit odd to me unless there's something to indicate this happened in the musical. (nothing I'm aware of, but I might've missed details, there are a lot of those after all.)
iaknihsX2 the suggestion is not that he’s lying per se but it is definitely the suggestion that it’s his story told from his perspective and that he could obviously be lying bc it’s just his word. and not only just his word but what he wrote down for the world to read about so even more likely to be sanitised
the suggestion, like so many parts of hamilton, is that we don’t know what really happened
"America was very classist and racist" "it's difficult to imagine it that way now.." haha good one.
TeaAtTwo But it was less statist, so it had that going for it. Which was nice.
America got roasted once again
Dumbest shit ever. If America is so classist and racist how did a black man become President? It's funny coming from a Canadian who's cuntry protects pedophiles and demonizes peoples free speech...yeah Canada sounds awesome
@@LP-ii3vy You are clueless. Did you know it was...oh, I'm guessing not, but did you know up until 1967 it was illegal for black and while people to marry in some states?
@@RoseNoho you fucking moronic parasite...what year are we currently in?
"Say no to wot? She didn't ask you anything!"
naw she commanded 😎 Lolol 🤣
Lauren Rogers THANK YOU 😂
Lauren Rogers Right cause as she was leading him to a bed it didn't occur to him to say, "Well I must be going now."
@@MommyOfZoeAndLiam But she was so helpless and emotionally vulnerable. How could he not stay to "comfort" her?
Just a continuous stream of money, to be paid for with that traditional form of value that usually leaves men poorer than when they came in :P
Eliza: take a break you haven't slept for three days
Hamilton: no
Angelica: come to the country with us
Hamilton: no
Maria: hey waddup cheat on your wife maybe
Hamilton: sure why not
he seems perfectly capable of saying no to his wife and sister in law but somehow can’t say it to a stranger.... interesting
So all they had to say was maybe 🤔 problem sol- wait that’s not the point well sti-oh ok ummmmm nvm
Well, I mean, let’s be honest here... saying no or not, you know that Alexander did his business and 2 minutes later he was right back to writing. I think he took more time writing the Reynolds Pamphlet than the actual affair took. #alltalknoaction
Holly Verret well their affair went on for around a year 😂. So he spent some time on her
Uhhh
how come nobody's pointed out that the best joke in this stand up is: "So when I said I've seen Hamilton... I've seen HALF of Hamilton."
@@agostinamaidana6720 her only seeing "half" of Hamilton implies that she was thrown out in the middle of the show because of her antics
Eugenia Leonetta Oh I thought it meant something entirely different 👁👄👁
Indeed. that was the one that made me laugh out loud.
@@mycatalrhythm would've thrown her out to. If she's acting like *This* in a show where families are trying to watch this in peace. Yeah would've thrown her out to.
@@Icarusinhischariot psst... sometimes stand up comedians exaggerate or imagine encounters for *•~°comedic affect°~•*
Ah, yes, Say No To This
Or as I like to call it......
"Hamilton ignores the entire ensemble screaming behind him LITERALLY TELLING HIM THE RIGHT THING TO DO....and he ignores them all"
I love the ensemble bc it's voicing what everyone in the audience is thinking at the moment. It's almost also like every cast member themselves are saying it from the hart like "Say no you idiot!!! And there he goes again."
I love the musical but I skip this song every time. I just hate it because it's the start of the downhill portion of his life.
Literally Everyone: HAMILTON NO.
Hamilton: HAMILTON YES.
literally i remember the first time i ever listened to say no to this, i literally shouted “NO!” at the same time the ensemble did
Respect your profile pic
"HeR bOdY iS nOt SaYiNg ThAt To YoU"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Breigh Steenberg 1.) her voice is literally saying that to him. She leads him to her bedroom and after Hamilton says he’s leaving she asks him to stay. 2.) she spreads her legs and says please stay.
EJ Wiksten everything she’s saying is clearly a joke
carrington.m not funny in the slightest either. At least to me. To each there own tho. Why does she make it seems like he raped her?
3rdSt did you watch the video? katherine wasn’t making it seem like he r*ped her, she was saying that maria wasn’t throwing herself at him so there was nothing for him to say no to. and even then he could’ve just said no.
carrington.m uhhhhhhhhhhhhh have you watched Hamilton???? Look up the song at least before making yourself look stupid. She literally takes him to her bed and spreads her legs and asks him to stay. That’s when he asked how to say no. Soooooooooooooooooooo she WAS throwing her self at him. It’s like she didn’t even see the show tf
Philip: Mom what's for dinner?
Eliza: roasted Ham.
*_the next day_*
Phillip: mommy, where’s daddy?
Eliza: *in your belly*
Philip one or two?
Underrated comment 😂😂
I laughed WAY to hard at this
And I oop😮
Just imagine Lin was in the audience of her show and just stands up and says.”That’s true!”
Underrated comment.
I get that reference.
1780 a winters ball-
Gracey L.
And yet they were having a “revel with some rebels on a hot night”.
martha washington named her feral tom cat after him.
"they named two of them philip !" well the first one didn't finish his french counting-
NOOOOO
Sobbbbb
:'( noooooooOOOOOOO
Too soon!
😭😭😭
i think its so funny that when she first sings, the audience is like “should we clap? im not sure!” haha
Let's all appreciate her singing voice
I KNOW! I heard her crooning that line and thought, "HELL YES"!
Yess!!! she's definitely gonna be a good musical/voice actor if she wants to pursue it.
Is no one gonna comment how good of a singer she is? Daaaamn Katherine!!
RIGHT?!?!? I wish she kept singing throughout the standup. It was like candy for my ears Lol
🎵Put yo fucking dick away🎵
... because it isn't great? It's passable .. it would be good for karaoke with friends ...
she's not and i wn't lie i cringed a little
It's more like, average. She's good, yeah, but nothing I wanted to hear on the radio.
Is no one else gonna talk about how professional those actors would have to be to ignore her.
(I know she didn't actually do it ;-;)
I feel like she didn't actually do that
She mentioned she didn't actually do it lol
I think comedy will become much more enjoyable if you are less literal in your reception of it.
Its actually kinda rude but I doubt she actually did it 😂
@Pearl Carayo Herrera-Lim at 3:08, if I didn't misunderstand that hhh
I love this bc Lin Manuel-Miranda also acknowledges that Hamilton was a huge asshole so he'd be like "You right tho"
Who is this Lin everyone talks about in the comment. I came here for Katherine Ryan and have not watched the musical/play (?) and not familiar with anything about US history.
@@budle89 Lin-Manuel Miranda is the creator of "Hamilton" and he also plays "Alexander Hamilton" in the play
@@khanhkhanh8496 thanks
The chorus is telling him how to say 'no" during the entire song.
Literally everyone is screaming “no” at him
that’s my favorite part because it feels like the audience is literally screaming at Hamilton
The chorus is all of us
Haha 😂 thank you for pointing this out
yah like can he listen
Truthfully, when I heard the song, that's what I thought too. Even is she seduced him... that't not an exuse. And yeah, the musical can't be blamed for his error, but the person itself totally can
The musical can be blamed. There is all sorts of irl shit that gets ignored, glossed over, or changed for adaptations, including in Hamilton.
And now he's on the $20 bill lol
Hamilton is not historically accurate. And, she went there to entrap him so her husband could BLACKMAIL Hamilton. Innocent she was not.
SJ47668 but she didn’t get to see that part because she was kicked out of the theater lol
Actually, the way the musical portrayed it as though it was romantic & sexy & a little naughty, but somehow cute... yeah, the musical CAN be blamed.