Reasons why this is happening 1. Void's genjitsu had trapped even the readers and author itself. 2. Opm multiverse. Different things happening in different timelines/parallel worlds 3. God is manipulating murata to make his pawn's stronger
i think they just wrote themselves into a wall when turning a gag enemy into the strongest enemy so far by far. i also think they did blast dirty, they kinda ruined his characterization. idk they just ruined a lot of late-story ammo for this ninja story that doesn't deserve it. i sincerely hope empty void is beaten by saitama off-screen like in the webcomic. i don't wanna see this arc again.
At first, it was a conspiracy. Now, it's looking more and more likely. There's NO WAY Murata and ONE are this clueless about where to take the story. I get the occasional rewrite, and I get if they wanna rewrite an arc once, but to do this several times to several arcs and plot lines, I feel there's something fishy going on. Like ONE legit has 2 weeks and sometimes a month or two to think about where to take the next chapters, and has now been writing the story for 12+ years. Legit no way they are making this many mistakes and going back on so many things Like sometimes manga fall off, because the mangaka are forced to release weekly, do their own artwork and make up the chapters as they go. INE can solely focus on the story aspect and release whenever Murata and him are ready. Only thing I can think of other than God manipulating plot lines, is that they started overthinking everything
I mean that’s kind of what it is considering certain things are still canon and definitely do happen but certain events are being expunged. or overall rewritten because it stays consistent within the multi-verse narrative that one punch man has produced for us. And it wouldn’t make sense to have a all powerful character like God and Saitama and empty void if you weren’t exploring multiple possibilities
@@furorteutonicus9045 Dragon Ball has never acted like entire chapters never happened though lol. This is the equivalent of getting to Buu being awakened then Toriyama saying "nah this ain't it" then hopping all the way back to Vegeta and Trunks exiting the time chamber.
Retcons like this are a blessing in disguise tbh. I know it's frustrating for the readers, but this means that the writer is doing everything they can to make things work. Take JJK for example, if Gege was allowed to rewrite and polish the latter parts of the story without any time limit, people wouldn't shit on it as much.
@@MegaAbalu I mean I’m sure the story will be better in the long run. But keeping everyone along for 2 years just to keep saying sike and rewriting it is insane. The anime and manga have both struggled so undeservingly for different reasons
@@MegaAbalu People are gonna shit on any JJK version that Gojo dies. 'Polishing the story' does nothing to people's opinion about JJK. Gojo destroying Sukuna, kenny and the merger while also retaining his title as the STRONGEST is the ONLY way JJK will not be shitted on. Because 99.9% of the fans are Gojo fans first, JJK fans second.
I'm positive that One and Murata were on a deadline for the previous chapter and drew the first things that came to mind and published it just to meet the deadline, all while knowing full well that there was gonna be another redraw. I'm surprised it's going this far back though. I figured just the previous chapter or two would've been retconned.
They have no idea where to go with this. So what they do is make up some plot as they go, and when things are not well received or Murata looks back at it and see how bad some things in the plot is, the redraws begin.
@hissatsu4937 don't they already have the web novels for it though? those are way ahead and tell the story, do all they haver to do is transfer it into manga form, with whatever changes they want to the story. + they have weeks in-between chapters to think about it
@@clockedfre Yeah but they change stuff up when they can involve God in things, Tatsumaki vs Psykos followed the WC, Tatsumaki vs Psyrochi didn't, Garou vs Sperm (even though it was platinum and not golden) followed the WC, Garou vs Sage didn't, Saitama vs Monster Garou followed the WC, Saitama vs Cosmic Garou didn't, Flashy Flash vs Sonic followed the WC, Blast vs Void didn't
@ I don't disagree with that, but what's the point in what you are saying? Maybe they just don't like the way they portrayed it with God. But my point was basically saying that they do have a rough idea of where they are going, but they don't know exactly the changes they'll make
@@AshuraToolitwhat's funny about it, have you seen the ending of she Hulk how she came to real world and change her own show and even in comic Deadpool killed the writer who wrote Deadpool story so what's so funny here
It doesn't matter. They've had breaks before and things still don't change. So either the writers get their shit together, focus more on opm and less on other stuff. Or get a new crew bc this is getting beyond ridiculous.
@hissatsu4937 what new crew? It's ONE's story with some inputs here and there by Murata. You're not going to get someone new come in for the story. Its either wait it out or find something else.
I mean we wouldn’t be dealing with a higher dimensional being if there weren’t time loops and rewrites I’m personally starting to think that there’s a reason for all these goddamn rewrites given that the multi-verse was mentioned twice and it kind of doesn’t make sense to not give us hints here and there
I actually don’t mind the creators going back and rewriting things in a way that better benefits the story moving forward. It’s actually interesting for me to go back and see what they changed and speculate on why they changed it.
@@Mechjeb661 but when it first came out, expecting a differint episode but instead getting another episode of endless eight was definitly a similer feeling
I actually love that they do this, ESPECIALLY when you have manga's like MHA and JJK that turn to crap with half-fleshed out ideas that take you out of the story. Pretty sure every mangaka has wished they could recon something in their story because they had a much better idea later or just want to take the story into a different direction.
My favourite theory is that Saitama and God's battle in the future is so powerful that it's causing ripples backwards in time that changes the timeline.
I don't think I have ever seen a manga or story get retconned and re done mid way through the story this many times ever. Like bro is just dropping a rough draft and fixing it later it's crazy
I dont understand why they cant just follow the Webcomic story line and just add some spicy fights that we didnt get to see. Thats all they had to do. Instead they went full Avengers mode and completely lost the plot, literally.
But like webconic version of empty void looks like this: "Saitama punch him to the ground of screen and we never see him again" Its so lame and i hate it
@@niesamowitydeszczownik7434 I'd prefer the webcomic story that actually makes sense and has a clear sense of direction, over the manga's embarrassing horrible mess of a story. Quality > Quantity of fights and story telling
Maybe these are not redraws, maybe this is setting up a multiverse, it's a multiverse, multiple timelines and each with a different empty void, with different motive with a different resolution etc.
I think this shows just how much the story changes in the author's mind. It's quite nice to see what their plans have been and how they change them. Of course we will read the final product when it's fin8ahed from beginning to the end and those in future will definitely enjoy it. The current audience is probably gonna be super upset.
Wait… what if these retcons aren’t actually recons and it’s just empty void switching dimensions until he gets the one he wants? If so then we probably won’t be told until the end of the series, but that would be really cool.
I think the joke and reference is because in the 2nd redraw, EV basically confirmed the multiverse. By stepping outside the causality of space and time.
What if these retcons are subtle hints of god trying to change saitamas future but ultimately keeps failing cause of literal "main character plot armor."
Nah, they just want to perfect ts, lol. They made Saitama one shot bro twice when he could’ve fought a being who he can’t punch which could’ve made him team up with Blast.
the artwork also looks a lot more "polished" unlike the previous older chapters. I feel like Murata and One were rushing the old ones and weren't happy with how they turned out.
Hopefully it will be better because pacing was kinda off and messy. Like Empty Void's transformation came out of nowhere and fight was kinda mid if you compare it with monster association arc fights. Let's hope it won't be like Pheonix Man retcon where it gets meh
YO HEAR ME OUT GUYS…what if God changed the manga in order to prevent his avatar (EV) from getting his ass whooped. Don’t believe me? Same thing happened with Garo and Saitama, they were about to talk things out but God influenced the manga to make Garo his avatar. Coincidence? I THINK NOT.
Actually my guess, it would be stupid to go that far back for something already done twice, just to correct some few mistakes especially when they have their hands occupied by the upcoming season 3, it's obvious ever since the chapter garou got he's powers from the opm god(redraw) that it's more than just that, but I feel like either saitama or someone will eventually point this out as soon deja Vu type stuff, of which will actually be the author's way of breaking the news to the readers
@@Pokeyrunnerwhat does relatively weak even mean though? He’s leagues stronger than every other hero and he’s fighting off an empty void powered by god and Garous power
@@Light-above_thunder if the manga continues this way. It may not continue. The comments here show that. You've become the minority in terms of defending the redraws
I feel like this isn't retconning anymore, but manipulation of events and fusing the dimensions/timelines and not letting one exist where this god is losing. It's strange that this came after we just learned about what Void is up to. I think this god learned this too and already started working on making Void's plans fail. Simply changing few details in the timeline and fusing both dimensions together. It must probably be on purpose too to simply change details of recent events causing a different outcome later, so when merging both dimensions/timelines it doesn't cause problems. This god must see a clearly of what will happen, so he probably does it to win and can't just erase this dimension/timeline and start new. He might destroy himself or part of him too doing that. Kinda like reloading a recent autosave, but you can't delete the save itself because then you'd just delete everything.
@seriously235 I don't think so either, but I hope the more people say this and give solid arguments for it, maybe it will eventually catch his attention and he might consider taking this idea.
Possibly. But if they push out longer chapters at least we can get through it faster this time around. All those 12 page chapters last year had the series moving in slowmotion.
It’s my favourite series and I absolutely fucking hate the manga right now might not even buy the volume releases for this as it’s not worth the money. Hopefully we get some better shit next month that is worth spending time on although I don’t look forward to it. Fuck the manga let’s just be optimistic for season 3 and wait for it.
The problem with this arc is trying to add God and Blast into it. The Webcomic portrayed “That Man” better as he was not influenced by God, though we never see what he’s capable of. Just have him fight Flash + Sonic for a bit, then Saitama steps in, then we can move to Amai Mask’s arc
Not really, sometimes it makes the story worse. Take phoenix man for example he was supposed to be a very threatening character before the redraw, but now Saitama was included in his fight with child emperor and his abilities got nerfed, literally removing all the stakes the fight had. Amai mask before the redraw was able to kill an entire mercenary squad without any regard for their life, making him morally ambigous and adds more tension to his character, but now those people were somehow saved by Iaian and amai mask never got to shine in his fight with do-S
The problem is including God and Blast into this arc. It’s better to have “That Man” be more in line with his Webcomic counterpart (I won’t spoil it for those who haven’t read). I just want this arc to end so we can move on to the next big moment in line
I think One and Murata should stay in the same house or office to finish all the story first. I assume they just chatted all the way on how the story will progress and made some confusions.
0:53 I mean you can’t have a multi-verse if you’re not gonna show off alternative universe is and it’s a good way to probably keep it within the character and the nature of the universe while also having it be very meta-in a way considering there are plenty of manga and comic books with strong individuals that have retcons or just straight up rewrites which plays into one’s nature of how he feels about comic books
Well here I was in your chat trying to figure out how I'd explain this to all my friends not in the know but hey, ya did it for us, many thanks, Z-Man.
being a perfectionist and an elite manga artist in a pool of mediocracy. And it's ONE who's doing the story boarding, Murata is just drawing my dude...
I’m sure it’s just different timelines that will be revealed later. I don’t think it’s what people think it is. Not saying I know, but it’s possible. Everything could come together in the end.
5:13 so basically reconfirming that that dimensional/that he invaded in the re-drawn chapters he didn’t actually evade it and he wasn’t actually that fast to evade it so that anybody still thinking that he was faster than both the dimensional slash or was capable of avoiding it the entire time no that was moving at an infinite to irrelevant distance of speed doesn’t matter if he invaded it or not he still got hit. and if void wanted to he could’ve killed him but he was aiming for sonic however he did kill somebody though one of the ninjas
Sweet Mask sitting in a corner wondering if he’ll ever get his arc at this point…also worried that it’ll be stuck in a year and a half loop of redraws itself when it finally does happen
This might be a hot take but the reveal of blast ruined the manga. The air of mystery he had in the webcomic was much more thrilling. Every time a mention of his name was dropped with stories like him slaughtering younglings in the ninja village, you felt an uneasiness, now he seems like an overpowered surfer dude. The original orochi fight was much better prior to the retcon
I agree with this 100%. That looming aura he had, the thought of when he could possibly show up has faded. His character is decent, but not really memorable. Feels disappointing tbh
Me just a week ago: Man, I cant wait! Theres a panel coming up. We should be getting another trailer for Season 3 on top of a new chapter! *no trailer and no new chapter* Okay... guess that means we wait a week for the chapter then... huh. Last time we went a month without a chapter ouside the hiatus in the middle of last year we had a major rewrite. But that couldnt be happening, right?
Nah f**k it, this is a joke and those manga isn't worth sticking with I'm all for bettering the story, but these chapters are jsut not worth altering (again) it's just a waste of time
Hey Zhoniin, I really appreciate your optimism towards these upcoming retcons. It's easy to be negative but more one punch man content is always good, especially if the author feels the need to reconsider things.
0:34 didn't child emperor and pheonix man fight technically retconned twice? The first fight was cut short then they redid it again from the beginning which then became the famous brilliant eagle mode and millenium emperor nova stuff, then it got retconned again for it to have removed brilliant eagle mode and emperor nova and add saitama to the fight and penguin mode.
Who knows, At least this time they now have 2 idea storylines and Im glad Murata and One have the chance to fix the previous mistakes they noticed and make this arc even more special. What really gets me interested is next chapter, Is Empty Void gonna do the Dimensional Slash or something different?
I have faith in one and Murata and trust that they’re doing this for the best of the series with that being said i hope this is the last of our redraws
you quit OPM today because there was another predictable retcon chapter out of the last hundreds of redraws. i quit years ago because garou's human-monster story from the webcomic was discarded and time travel was used to save the entire cast from a corner that ONE wrote himself into. we are not the same.
All people ever wanted was a 1:1 adaptation of the webcomic. Murata can't help but deviate himself from the source material and the OPM manga suffers because of it.
@@Kruegernator123 it didn't even need to be 1:1 Stuff like flashy vs platinum S vs garou fight was manga only, but was brilliant and fit with the original story Time traveling space garou took the story into a brick wall and has kept going through walls since then
@ it's funny, because the manga was actually good when it wasn't an _exact_ 1:1 back then, because it actually improved a lot on the original story by only _adding_ to it and never taking anything away. it was basically just the webcomic with great art and expanded fights and concepts while still keeping the same story beats. it's just the stuff in between that changed to either make the story go smoother or hype it up more. that's why early-mid Monster Assoc. arc was literally peak One Punch Man.
The only thing I don't like about redraws are the exclusion of some good moments like Saitama talking to Garou on the broken house, they could've let them talk there then get Garou triggered before starting the cosmic evolution
10 years into the future in a parallel world: one punch man finishes saitama finally finishes god with Jenos sonic and garo and maybe flash. Everyone moans about the plot holes and wishes there could have been more to the garo and saitama fight and just the monster association arc in general and more than 5 chapters of the ninja arc like the original webcomic Instead I live in a world where an author is doing retcons to perfect his story and everyone still moans. The human race is letting itself down
😑 bro stop gurgling ones balls. Its the indecisiveness and time wasting tht people complain about. Would u srsly not be annoyed if you read a book to chp 9, and then halfway through, the book starts back at chapter 3 with no real explanation? You start to feel like u wasting the time being invested.
I think the biggest shock to me is that cosmic garou was 2 years+ ago. Now that I think about it we didn't advance that much in the story. And now 1.5 years of content got reduced again.@@brandondavis3689
Question: How often it is with these retcons in the case of manga/manga adaptations? I find it quit strange that the One punch man manga has that many changes over the years.(regardles of the webcomic) I mean they liteally have to rewrite chapters and resell them again, making it more fonfusing to keep up with it both with the comic and the web versions. I'm not that really a manga geek. Any thoughts or examples of this? How common is this kind of stuff with mangas?
I have read many mangas. Never seen any mangas getting treatment like one punch man. The Author is crazy dedicative to make chapters enjoyable for audience
very rarely, the only one ive seen is from one punch man yet. but it is quite understandable since one punch man unlike other piece of media is in a very weird situation. the orinal author is working on the webcomic and its not the best art we can say, so its not very popular, while murata (the guy that is making the manga) is a friend of the author adapting the webcomic with better art. but hes modifying the story A LOT to fit better to a larger audience, so he needs to change the story a ton
Murata and ONE are killing the series with this nonsense BS they seem not to have confident on where they are going to take this art through I'm going to stop reading it until they stop the BS
5 big changes According to the new Redraw: 👉Blast dunno about Saitama's Power 👉Blast was never there when Cf_Garou's Powers leaked 👉There's no Anti_Monsterization Lab 👉No Dimension_Slash😑 👉More Attention to Tennito_party & Art💖 [ *Several Inconsistencies of Story,Art & Scaling are gone👌* ]
Wait for them to retcon it a third time 😂. Joking aside, I wish they would take the time to put out exactly what they want in regards to the plot even if it means few chapter releases. It kinda sucks reading something only to be like "it's not canon?" Reminds me of western comics like DC or Marvel
!!READ, THIS IS WORTH READING ESPECIALLY FOR OPM FANS!! Me and my friends were talking about this and i think we got a pretty good idea whats going on here One and murata care for the powerscaling in the series, our guess is that they are trying to make ev and his powers more consistent Bc if u dont know he dimension slash isnt supoosed to be reacted to anyone who is like ftl, its instantaneous. So they are trying to fix that by Removing the reactions of the other characters, making it that the ds spawns and doesnt travel, This would actually benefit the series imo, it would be more consistent and it would help characters like saitama get a better speed feat while also making the whole ds make sense bc it IS supposed to be instantaneous and only inf speed+ characters can react/dodge/catch it
2023: Oh nice chapter 195 just dropped!
2025: Oh nice chapter 195 just dropped!
FR 😂😂😂
wtf 💀
@@gamervibes6454 2024 : oh nice chapter 195 just dropped ( it dropped thrice)
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Reasons why this is happening
1. Void's genjitsu had trapped even the readers and author itself.
2. Opm multiverse. Different things happening in different timelines/parallel worlds
3. God is manipulating murata to make his pawn's stronger
You’re a prophet
You are the Writer, Go Make the Comic.
4th wall ahh theory
4. The writer and artist because…I don’t know
i think they just wrote themselves into a wall when turning a gag enemy into the strongest enemy so far by far. i also think they did blast dirty, they kinda ruined his characterization. idk they just ruined a lot of late-story ammo for this ninja story that doesn't deserve it. i sincerely hope empty void is beaten by saitama off-screen like in the webcomic. i don't wanna see this arc again.
It's not a recon. God just doesn't want the story to end up in the way it has. So he is just making alternate timelines.
At this point this could actually be true lol
Yeah it will be very annoying and useless to make these retcons unless it's true.
i do really get some heavy Superboy-Prime punching the Source Wall flashbacks from all of this.
I love to see we are all in agreement.
At first, it was a conspiracy. Now, it's looking more and more likely.
There's NO WAY Murata and ONE are this clueless about where to take the story. I get the occasional rewrite, and I get if they wanna rewrite an arc once, but to do this several times to several arcs and plot lines, I feel there's something fishy going on.
Like ONE legit has 2 weeks and sometimes a month or two to think about where to take the next chapters, and has now been writing the story for 12+ years. Legit no way they are making this many mistakes and going back on so many things
Like sometimes manga fall off, because the mangaka are forced to release weekly, do their own artwork and make up the chapters as they go. INE can solely focus on the story aspect and release whenever Murata and him are ready. Only thing I can think of other than God manipulating plot lines, is that they started overthinking everything
imagine if this isn't actually a retcon but god turning back time and the main characters would slowly start to realize what was going on
bro. that. would. be. kino!
I mean that’s kind of what it is considering certain things are still canon and definitely do happen but certain events are being expunged. or overall rewritten because it stays consistent within the multi-verse narrative that one punch man has produced for us. And it wouldn’t make sense to have a all powerful character like God and Saitama and empty void if you weren’t exploring multiple possibilities
Honestly, they can fix all we got with that
Hmm it's not a bad idea but we have to wait and see how they execute it
keep imagining bro
Me in 2089 reading the 56th retcon of chapter 195: 😃
Me still reading it with a big smile on my old ass face
It's Murata so yeah we will love it still!!
Me having most of my organs replaced with robotic components by 2089 just to stay alive to see it too.
I’ve never even heard of another manga doing retcons let alone this many
Dragonball comes close.
@@furorteutonicus9045 Dragon Ball has never acted like entire chapters never happened though lol. This is the equivalent of getting to Buu being awakened then Toriyama saying "nah this ain't it" then hopping all the way back to Vegeta and Trunks exiting the time chamber.
Retcons like this are a blessing in disguise tbh. I know it's frustrating for the readers, but this means that the writer is doing everything they can to make things work. Take JJK for example, if Gege was allowed to rewrite and polish the latter parts of the story without any time limit, people wouldn't shit on it as much.
@@MegaAbalu I mean I’m sure the story will be better in the long run. But keeping everyone along for 2 years just to keep saying sike and rewriting it is insane. The anime and manga have both struggled so undeservingly for different reasons
@@MegaAbalu People are gonna shit on any JJK version that Gojo dies. 'Polishing the story' does nothing to people's opinion about JJK. Gojo destroying Sukuna, kenny and the merger while also retaining his title as the STRONGEST is the ONLY way JJK will not be shitted on. Because 99.9% of the fans are Gojo fans first, JJK fans second.
I'm positive that One and Murata were on a deadline for the previous chapter and drew the first things that came to mind and published it just to meet the deadline, all while knowing full well that there was gonna be another redraw.
I'm surprised it's going this far back though. I figured just the previous chapter or two would've been retconned.
This might actually be true nice thinking 👍
They have no idea where to go with this. So what they do is make up some plot as they go, and when things are not well received or Murata looks back at it and see how bad some things in the plot is, the redraws begin.
@hissatsu4937 don't they already have the web novels for it though? those are way ahead and tell the story, do all they haver to do is transfer it into manga form, with whatever changes they want to the story. + they have weeks in-between chapters to think about it
@@clockedfre Yeah but they change stuff up when they can involve God in things,
Tatsumaki vs Psykos followed the WC, Tatsumaki vs Psyrochi didn't, Garou vs Sperm (even though it was platinum and not golden) followed the WC, Garou vs Sage didn't, Saitama vs Monster Garou followed the WC, Saitama vs Cosmic Garou didn't, Flashy Flash vs Sonic followed the WC, Blast vs Void didn't
@ I don't disagree with that, but what's the point in what you are saying? Maybe they just don't like the way they portrayed it with God. But my point was basically saying that they do have a rough idea of where they are going, but they don't know exactly the changes they'll make
One: You know what..
Murata: 🤦♂*deep sigh... What One
@@Evil_Tadpole it's not One. Just look at the webcomic. There's actually structure there
@@1slayer959ONE wants the manga different from the wc. Murata isn't the writer here.
@@windygrass9807 so he wants one to be an actual story and the other to be a nonsensical mess?
K. Watever ya say
@@1slayer959 what?? You're just a hater, kid.. 😂
Go back to your wc or whatever
@@windygrass9807 and there it is. Just a fake opm fan settling for slop. XD
I don’t even know what’s going on anymore
Basically this is the 2nd redraw, [Third, if you count the first version], as well as repeating 16 chapters of content.
One Punch Man fall off has to be study
Were stuck in izanami and never getting this out
@@NeoZero369I mean the garou retcon was amazing though. We ended up with cosmic Garou and Saitama time travelling
@Ccob0517 a lot of retcons have been amazing, but fr this is the 2nd redraw, which is a bit annoying
This isn't retcons by the author. It's retcons by the characters. That's how powerful they are.
Lmaoo
@@AshuraToolitwhat's funny about it, have you seen the ending of she Hulk how she came to real world and change her own show and even in comic Deadpool killed the writer who wrote Deadpool story so what's so funny here
At this rate we might really have to cope with this excuse 😅
Im coping why tf did they remove all of Saitamas feats 😭😭😭Ts better be some Infinite-D God manipulation tactic to make the story go as he wants
At this point they should take a break to figure out where their going
2 month break in summer wasnt enough?
@ honestly I don’t know
It doesn't matter. They've had breaks before and things still don't change.
So either the writers get their shit together, focus more on opm and less on other stuff. Or get a new crew bc this is getting beyond ridiculous.
They did take a break. They've now decided to retcon again. Next redraw is in 1 week. So it seems like it.
@hissatsu4937 what new crew? It's ONE's story with some inputs here and there by Murata. You're not going to get someone new come in for the story. Its either wait it out or find something else.
The last chapter deserved a rewrite.
I mean the blast and Empty void fight was kinda lackluster
Nope, I like everything except blast limit, but still, everything was amazingly done
Yah I though he was gonna redraw last chapter Not the entire fucking arc
@@Sr.YOSHI99 nop is because last chapter had continuation errors
They knew that they would redraw the whole arc so they just went "eh who cares we re gonna redraw chapter 211 either way"
Imagine if we finished this arc only for murata to redraw the boros arc
Fans would love that ❤
Then I'll quit opm for good
I would drop this manga.
Not posible
Then I'll 100% Quit opm I'm barely holding back from doing that already because of the god tire art 😞
Getting Monster Association flashbacks. Did Empty Void put us under Izanami and put us on a loop?
I mean we wouldn’t be dealing with a higher dimensional being if there weren’t time loops and rewrites I’m personally starting to think that there’s a reason for all these goddamn rewrites given that the multi-verse was mentioned twice and it kind of doesn’t make sense to not give us hints here and there
Well the last chapter seemed kinda odd because void's plan was childish, the rewrite is necessary.
Yeah, like how can you try to defeat god with his own power, but I only expected the redraw to only be last chapter
Just Change the last few chapters then 😢
I actually don’t mind the creators going back and rewriting things in a way that better benefits the story moving forward. It’s actually interesting for me to go back and see what they changed and speculate on why they changed it.
People are too blind to see that shit
High iq comment 💪🏽
@@The_E_Lordnobody is blind,we are just annoyed we being in one place for 6 months plus wtf
@@danchiziofficial2159yeah this niggas tryna be different 😂 like it ain’t crazy this shits being looped again after over a year
Wdym 6 months?? Buddy its only 2-3 months@@danchiziofficial2159
It's just God altering the timeline
that makes more sense
BRU, THIS SHIT LIKE THE ENDLESS EIGHT FOR MANGA READERS
Endless Eight is good and final though. Redraws are totally different.
@@Mechjeb661 but when it first came out, expecting a differint episode but instead getting another episode of endless eight was definitly a similer feeling
These retcons are getting ridiculous 😐
I actually love that they do this, ESPECIALLY when you have manga's like MHA and JJK that turn to crap with half-fleshed out ideas that take you out of the story.
Pretty sure every mangaka has wished they could recon something in their story because they had a much better idea later or just want to take the story into a different direction.
Retconning the retcon is wild indeed.
My favourite theory is that Saitama and God's battle in the future is so powerful that it's causing ripples backwards in time that changes the timeline.
@@cretaceouscrusader661 I like this theory
@@cretaceouscrusader661 that'd honestly be big brain storytelling
I don't think I have ever seen a manga or story get retconned and re done mid way through the story this many times ever. Like bro is just dropping a rough draft and fixing it later it's crazy
Yeah thats why we get Black cloves, My hero academias, and Jujutsu Kaisen endings.
Better than how most Mangas end up ffs chill out
@ArantyrDarkhand the stories of those series weren't the problem the ending was
@ i might be in the minority but I actually liked the my hero ending honestly
@KingMaler00 My hero ending was good but nothing special jjks was just trash 🗑 the flow of events were terrible
I don't love that they keep spinning their wheels on this arc. There were some peak moments in the first retcon, I hope we don't lose them all.
Just read the last chapter again and I knew we were getting a retcon. That last chapter just felt so incomplete.
But could have changed just the last chapter
I dont understand why they cant just follow the Webcomic story line and just add some spicy fights that we didnt get to see. Thats all they had to do. Instead they went full Avengers mode and completely lost the plot, literally.
But like webconic version of empty void looks like this: "Saitama punch him to the ground of screen and we never see him again"
Its so lame and i hate it
@@niesamowitydeszczownik7434 I'd prefer the webcomic story that actually makes sense and has a clear sense of direction, over the manga's embarrassing horrible mess of a story.
Quality > Quantity of fights and story telling
Jesus…
I’m out, I’ll see y’all in like 2 years
I can’t do this shit anymore
Same dude. Lemme know when murata is done spilling the eggs.
Byeeee
Please leave 🙏
See ya 👋🏻 😂
at least you'll be in time for chapter 195 release! saw some leaks that we'll be getting more blast content there as well
Maybe these are not redraws, maybe this is setting up a multiverse, it's a multiverse, multiple timelines and each with a different empty void, with different motive with a different resolution etc.
Maybe....
Hopefully
I think this shows just how much the story changes in the author's mind. It's quite nice to see what their plans have been and how they change them. Of course we will read the final product when it's fin8ahed from beginning to the end and those in future will definitely enjoy it. The current audience is probably gonna be super upset.
Wait… what if these retcons aren’t actually recons and it’s just empty void switching dimensions until he gets the one he wants? If so then we probably won’t be told until the end of the series, but that would be really cool.
Not sure why you'd think that was the case.
I think the joke and reference is because in the 2nd redraw, EV basically confirmed the multiverse. By stepping outside the causality of space and time.
Even if that was the case. It's actively hindering the story
What if these retcons are subtle hints of god trying to change saitamas future but ultimately keeps failing cause of literal "main character plot armor."
Nah, they just want to perfect ts, lol. They made Saitama one shot bro twice when he could’ve fought a being who he can’t punch which could’ve made him team up with Blast.
7:04 “but first” *video ends
The retcon has begun, again :D
At this point we're gonna have season 3 before seeing a new chapter.
This is where i hop off this roller coaster. its getting a little too much.
@@marvinarnett9263 welcome to the, "tired og OPMs bs club" Have a cookie
@@1slayer959lmao, I stopped reading the manga after they fucked up the monster association arc, getting this recommended was funny as hell
@@FBI-xuthe ending?
@Alexander-b6m3n I mean the entire cosmic garou thing, but yea the ending was the nail in the coffin for me
@Alexander-b6m3n the mangas take on garous arc missed the point if his character
Murata needs to stop this nonsense. They need to just stick with the webcomic, perfectly written story already. 😂
Murata should retire.
the artwork also looks a lot more "polished" unlike the previous older chapters. I feel like Murata and One were rushing the old ones and weren't happy with how they turned out.
Murata should drop the opm manga. There are literally 100 of artist who can draw like murata. And give us chapter every week.
This is so dumb and pointless it was going so good and fun and insane
they wanna make it better i hope😂
Hopefully it will be better because pacing was kinda off and messy. Like Empty Void's transformation came out of nowhere and fight was kinda mid if you compare it with monster association arc fights. Let's hope it won't be like Pheonix Man retcon where it gets meh
@@ordinarymannNot to mention that the recent chapters felt way WAY too short!
YO HEAR ME OUT GUYS…what if God changed the manga in order to prevent his avatar (EV) from getting his ass whooped. Don’t believe me? Same thing happened with Garo and Saitama, they were about to talk things out but God influenced the manga to make Garo his avatar. Coincidence? I THINK NOT.
Untrue theory
@ I mean, obviously, this is just my headcanon, hell I myself don’t even believe that to be the case yet it’s still a fun theory.
Actually my guess, it would be stupid to go that far back for something already done twice, just to correct some few mistakes especially when they have their hands occupied by the upcoming season 3, it's obvious ever since the chapter garou got he's powers from the opm god(redraw) that it's more than just that, but I feel like either saitama or someone will eventually point this out as soon deja Vu type stuff, of which will actually be the author's way of breaking the news to the readers
Took about a year break from the manga just to see that they are redrawing it AGAIN
I just love how they care for the story to change it and as right as possible. I’m loving it
Yea… I love having no progress in a story for 2 years
😂
@@jarde1989 for only 1 year and like few months.
@@jarde1989 there is progress it’s just get revised, look at the bigger picture
@@jarde1989Better them perfect it now, so that the anime can be the best that it can be🤷🏻
Bro heard the blast fraud rumors and said nah, we can't have that now.
@@Pokeyrunnerwhat does relatively weak even mean though? He’s leagues stronger than every other hero and he’s fighting off an empty void powered by god and Garous power
Ge saw what happened to JJk😂
@@Pokeyrunnertrue
Yeah we have yet to see him win a current day battle.
I don't know man, but I am getting excited, I feel like something big is comming with these redraws.
Murata is setting us up for the next retcon.... My goat... ✍️ 🔥
Yes there is more redraws lol and after 1.5 Year when they end guess what the new redraw for 195 coming straight up to ya in 2027 lol
Something back that will be retconned too
@@1slayer959 more OPM content, all the better. Let this manga never die
@@Light-above_thunder if the manga continues this way. It may not continue.
The comments here show that.
You've become the minority in terms of defending the redraws
Absolutely a part of the power scaling in OPM. Definitely characters in the story reaching out to our reality and changing it.
Oh hell no.
Imagine the retcons is actually God resetting the timeline when Saitama gets found or something goes against his plan
I honestly believe this is God intervening in the chapters, rewinding shit and this is some META SHIT !
That mean this is not chapter 195 it chapter 212
god is retconing shit
This is killing hype for the manga. I think I'll just wait for the arc to end if I ever get around to reading it.
I feel like this isn't retconning anymore, but manipulation of events and fusing the dimensions/timelines and not letting one exist where this god is losing. It's strange that this came after we just learned about what Void is up to. I think this god learned this too and already started working on making Void's plans fail. Simply changing few details in the timeline and fusing both dimensions together. It must probably be on purpose too to simply change details of recent events causing a different outcome later, so when merging both dimensions/timelines it doesn't cause problems. This god must see a clearly of what will happen, so he probably does it to win and can't just erase this dimension/timeline and start new. He might destroy himself or part of him too doing that. Kinda like reloading a recent autosave, but you can't delete the save itself because then you'd just delete everything.
This would be peak storytelling, but I don't think this is the style of how ONE writes
@seriously235 I don't think so either, but I hope the more people say this and give solid arguments for it, maybe it will eventually catch his attention and he might consider taking this idea.
More than a year was wasted on this shit. Wild times.
And now another year will be wasted on the same exact shit. Just for this to probably happen again. Like it always does.
Possibly. But if they push out longer chapters at least we can get through it faster this time around. All those 12 page chapters last year had the series moving in slowmotion.
@hissatsu4937 neither murata or one cares about one punch man i doubt were getting anything past 12 page chapters this year
It’s my favourite series and I absolutely fucking hate the manga right now might not even buy the volume releases for this as it’s not worth the money. Hopefully we get some better shit next month that is worth spending time on although I don’t look forward to it. Fuck the manga let’s just be optimistic for season 3 and wait for it.
This chapter will also be retconned. I am done with OPM
Crazy that we went back so far, but retcons usually means some redraws and slightly more polished designs so I'm happy to see what gets done
How many of you guys would raid my shit if i said "Cope saitama still fodder"
The problem with this arc is trying to add God and Blast into it. The Webcomic portrayed “That Man” better as he was not influenced by God, though we never see what he’s capable of.
Just have him fight Flash + Sonic for a bit, then Saitama steps in, then we can move to Amai Mask’s arc
even though its funny, i love that they do this. They make sure the story is perfect. Thanks One and Murata.
Not really, sometimes it makes the story worse. Take phoenix man for example he was supposed to be a very threatening character before the redraw, but now Saitama was included in his fight with child emperor and his abilities got nerfed, literally removing all the stakes the fight had. Amai mask before the redraw was able to kill an entire mercenary squad without any regard for their life, making him morally ambigous and adds more tension to his character, but now those people were somehow saved by Iaian and amai mask never got to shine in his fight with do-S
The problem is including God and Blast into this arc. It’s better to have “That Man” be more in line with his Webcomic counterpart (I won’t spoil it for those who haven’t read). I just want this arc to end so we can move on to the next big moment in line
Somehow I knew we’ll get a redraw ever since Void had his two swords inexplicably
You don't need to redraw 10 chapters for that
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 is he actually redoing all of them?
@@DominicRuiz23redrawing everything from 195
@@P1emxn bruh…. No way is this confirmed??
I don’t mind the changes. We’re just getting more angles to the story. I like it.
I cant bro, im gonna stop reading the manga, could have like 40+ new chapters in these last 2 years.
I think One and Murata should stay in the same house or office to finish all the story first. I assume they just chatted all the way on how the story will progress and made some confusions.
I dont mind retcons at all, considering we got Saitama vs Cosmic Garou out of one
@@dreamybullx1 you mean the sparkly slop that ditched garous character arc? Yeah, no thanks
@1slayer959 So you're saying you prefer the scene where Saitama and Garou talk it out?
@@dreamybullx1 the fact that you say that shows me you have no idea what was changed
@1slayer959 Bro just tell me im genuinely curious 💀💀 Why are you being so antagonizing
@@dreamybullx1unironically yes (but wc stuff would be even better)
0:53 I mean you can’t have a multi-verse if you’re not gonna show off alternative universe is and it’s a good way to probably keep it within the character and the nature of the universe while also having it be very meta-in a way considering there are plenty of manga and comic books with strong individuals that have retcons or just straight up rewrites which plays into one’s nature of how he feels about comic books
I hated the First Retcon ! Leave Greatness alone! It was perfect as it was !
Well here I was in your chat trying to figure out how I'd explain this to all my friends not in the know but hey, ya did it for us, many thanks, Z-Man.
Murata is struggling 😭
being a perfectionist and an elite manga artist in a pool of mediocracy. And it's ONE who's doing the story boarding, Murata is just drawing my dude...
Ok this actually might be unironically a jujitsu that alters the timeline whenever something doesn’t work
The next retcon will be Crablante actually killing Saitama so the series didn't actually happen.
Y’know I’m looking forward to this. I’ve been following Zhoniin since forever
So let’s get it, I’m expecting great things
Who cares how long you've been following someone
Yo I'll see yall in season 3 I'm droppin this manga dawg 😭✌️
Honestly it would be kind of insane if all of the different redraws are all cannon and its just shown to be GOD's ability
Retcon is just God's plot manipulation after few more Saitama will realise and punch the plot.
@@daiblo.dshadow even if that happened. That wouldn't make this, good storytelling
I’m sure it’s just different timelines that will be revealed later. I don’t think it’s what people think it is.
Not saying I know, but it’s possible. Everything could come together in the end.
The retcons are ridiculous at this point, just tell the damn story.
I guess we all will be in our 80's and 90's when this will be animated !!!
I’m sorry, but if they really about to do a full redraw again, it will be the end of opm
Love how u recognized this time everything actually is changed lol. Love u man fire videos
This is requiem
You will never reach the end of OPM
5:13 so basically reconfirming that that dimensional/that he invaded in the re-drawn chapters he didn’t actually evade it and he wasn’t actually that fast to evade it so that anybody still thinking that he was faster than both the dimensional slash or was capable of avoiding it the entire time no that was moving at an infinite to irrelevant distance of speed doesn’t matter if he invaded it or not he still got hit. and if void wanted to he could’ve killed him but he was aiming for sonic however he did kill somebody though one of the ninjas
"This changes everything!" Is back lol.
Sweet Mask sitting in a corner wondering if he’ll ever get his arc at this point…also worried that it’ll be stuck in a year and a half loop of redraws itself when it finally does happen
This might be a hot take but the reveal of blast ruined the manga. The air of mystery he had in the webcomic was much more thrilling. Every time a mention of his name was dropped with stories like him slaughtering younglings in the ninja village, you felt an uneasiness, now he seems like an overpowered surfer dude.
The original orochi fight was much better prior to the retcon
I agree with this 100%. That looming aura he had, the thought of when he could possibly show up has faded. His character is decent, but not really memorable. Feels disappointing tbh
Me just a week ago: Man, I cant wait! Theres a panel coming up. We should be getting another trailer for Season 3 on top of a new chapter!
*no trailer and no new chapter*
Okay... guess that means we wait a week for the chapter then... huh. Last time we went a month without a chapter ouside the hiatus in the middle of last year we had a major rewrite. But that couldnt be happening, right?
Nah f**k it, this is a joke and those manga isn't worth sticking with
I'm all for bettering the story, but these chapters are jsut not worth altering (again) it's just a waste of time
I hope they at least make it even more insane than the Cosmic Garou reveal, because it's kinda ridiculous to restart a whole year of manga chapters
Hey Zhoniin, I really appreciate your optimism towards these upcoming retcons. It's easy to be negative but more one punch man content is always good, especially if the author feels the need to reconsider things.
0:34 didn't child emperor and pheonix man fight technically retconned twice? The first fight was cut short then they redid it again from the beginning which then became the famous brilliant eagle mode and millenium emperor nova stuff, then it got retconned again for it to have removed brilliant eagle mode and emperor nova and add saitama to the fight and penguin mode.
Speaking of Garou I wonder what he's going to be doing next? I doubt he'll be a delivery man like in the web comic.
I’m digging the Peruvian background music you’ve been playing lately
Who knows, At least this time they now have 2 idea storylines and Im glad Murata and One have the chance to fix the previous mistakes they noticed and make this arc even more special.
What really gets me interested is next chapter, Is Empty Void gonna do the Dimensional Slash or something different?
Finally, someone understands that making retcons again is not bad at all
Void is going to get nerfed probably
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021No he's not
I have faith in one and Murata and trust that they’re doing this for the best of the series with that being said i hope this is the last of our redraws
OMGT THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!!
fuck, it actually does.
I do not mind the retcons, cause they always get better and we get more gorgeous art, but retconning over a YEAR of content is exhausting to witness
Twice now
you quit OPM today because there was another predictable retcon chapter out of the last hundreds of redraws.
i quit years ago because garou's human-monster story from the webcomic was discarded and time travel was used to save the entire cast from a corner that ONE wrote himself into.
we are not the same.
Ma man! Same! 👏
All people ever wanted was a 1:1 adaptation of the webcomic. Murata can't help but deviate himself from the source material and the OPM manga suffers because of it.
@@Kruegernator123 it didn't even need to be 1:1
Stuff like flashy vs platinum S vs garou fight was manga only, but was brilliant and fit with the original story
Time traveling space garou took the story into a brick wall and has kept going through walls since then
@ it's funny, because the manga was actually good when it wasn't an _exact_ 1:1 back then, because it actually improved a lot on the original story by only _adding_ to it and never taking anything away.
it was basically just the webcomic with great art and expanded fights and concepts while still keeping the same story beats. it's just the stuff in between that changed to either make the story go smoother or hype it up more. that's why early-mid Monster Assoc. arc was literally peak One Punch Man.
I quit after Orochi turned into a motherfukkin jetplane.
The only thing I don't like about redraws are the exclusion of some good moments like Saitama talking to Garou on the broken house, they could've let them talk there then get Garou triggered before starting the cosmic evolution
10 years into the future in a parallel world: one punch man finishes saitama finally finishes god with Jenos sonic and garo and maybe flash. Everyone moans about the plot holes and wishes there could have been more to the garo and saitama fight and just the monster association arc in general and more than 5 chapters of the ninja arc like the original webcomic
Instead I live in a world where an author is doing retcons to perfect his story and everyone still moans.
The human race is letting itself down
😑 bro stop gurgling ones balls.
Its the indecisiveness and time wasting tht people complain about. Would u srsly not be annoyed if you read a book to chp 9, and then halfway through, the book starts back at chapter 3 with no real explanation?
You start to feel like u wasting the time being invested.
I think the biggest shock to me is that cosmic garou was 2 years+ ago. Now that I think about it we didn't advance that much in the story. And now 1.5 years of content got reduced again.@@brandondavis3689
Question: How often it is with these retcons in the case of manga/manga adaptations? I find it quit strange that the One punch man manga has that many changes over the years.(regardles of the webcomic) I mean they liteally have to rewrite chapters and resell them again, making it more fonfusing to keep up with it both with the comic and the web versions.
I'm not that really a manga geek. Any thoughts or examples of this?
How common is this kind of stuff with mangas?
I have read many mangas. Never seen any mangas getting treatment like one punch man. The Author is crazy dedicative to make chapters enjoyable for audience
very rarely, the only one ive seen is from one punch man yet. but it is quite understandable since one punch man unlike other piece of media is in a very weird situation. the orinal author is working on the webcomic and its not the best art we can say, so its not very popular, while murata (the guy that is making the manga) is a friend of the author adapting the webcomic with better art. but hes modifying the story A LOT to fit better to a larger audience, so he needs to change the story a ton
maybe..
this is the first manga that play with timeline and make us the reader follow it along...
we are also in the timeline
Murata and ONE are killing the series with this nonsense BS they seem not to have confident on where they are going to take this art through I'm going to stop reading it until they stop the BS
where do yall read manga because my site dont have retcons
5 big changes According to the new Redraw:
👉Blast dunno about Saitama's Power
👉Blast was never there when Cf_Garou's Powers leaked
👉There's no Anti_Monsterization Lab
👉No Dimension_Slash😑
👉More Attention to Tennito_party & Art💖
[ *Several Inconsistencies of Story,Art & Scaling are gone👌* ]
Wild, still waiting on TL for this on my end.
I guess they are squeezing this in before the volume is released?
Does someone have a site where the old chap and redraw smash together? At least just the redrawn version
I can’t tell if we’ll finish the ninja village arc before gta 6 (no pun intended)
Wait for them to retcon it a third time 😂.
Joking aside, I wish they would take the time to put out exactly what they want in regards to the plot even if it means few chapter releases. It kinda sucks reading something only to be like "it's not canon?" Reminds me of western comics like DC or Marvel
!!READ, THIS IS WORTH READING ESPECIALLY FOR OPM FANS!!
Me and my friends were talking about this and i think we got a pretty good idea whats going on here
One and murata care for the powerscaling in the series, our guess is that they are trying to make ev and his powers more consistent
Bc if u dont know he dimension slash isnt supoosed to be reacted to anyone who is like ftl, its instantaneous. So they are trying to fix that by
Removing the reactions of the other characters, making it that the ds spawns and doesnt travel,
This would actually benefit the series imo, it would be more consistent and it would help characters like saitama get a better speed feat while also making the whole ds make sense bc it IS supposed to be instantaneous and only inf speed+ characters can react/dodge/catch it