Is Disfellowshipping/Shunning/Excommunication Biblical? | Should We Confess Our Sins To Men?

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  • @spec5050
    @spec5050 Рік тому +6

    Man , Lifeissimple , your video hits so close to home , it almost makes one cry . In the early 80's , my father who had to quit his job at a defense plant and stop smoking at the same time , and return to construction after having a desk job for almost 15 years , by order of the society .In the end he couldn't do it and feed his family . The elders gave him the option of either being DF or DA . I felt sick about how poorly the society treated this hardworking honest man , not giving a damm about his obligations to provide for five people still left at home , one being a severely autistic child . I could not treat him like an outcast while others [ even within our family ] did . We went fishing years later , just a couple years before he died ,where I broke down and told him how much I loved him , and said that I was sorry if I caused him any pain over the years . At that time , my eyes were already being FORCED open to the hypocrisy of the organization , the deceit , the lies, the politics . Then later I learned [ after the fact ] that the society had joined the United Nations as an NGO in the 90's , just 2 years after my fathers passing . They joined up with the WILD BEAST and become a partner in Satan's world wide organization .....the same Wild Beast , the society had been demonizing for nearly 80 years . One would think the least the lying Rat Basters could do is send a letter to my mother apologizing and reinstating my father for their finding "NEW LIGHT" and joining the same Wild Beast that my father was associated with , that got him Disassociated . But I think we all know that answer . We all can be thankful for Gods mercy , the forgiveness of our sins , and the resurrection . God Bless You All .

    • @PhilippeArcher
      @PhilippeArcher Рік тому

      It's NOT just in JW's....(it's the Elephant in the Room ISSUE,for the shunned!!! In just about any Church,there are people who are only too glad to treat those who have Sinful personal-issues,as if they belonged in the leper-community and apply their "social-distancing" only too readily,and gladly with Legalism.They think their Sinful-Inclinations are not as bad as the one who apparently has been caught out in the Church,or who has been identified as an "especially-bad Sinner" Shunning,is of course, a Rejection and it can Destroy an individual if it is NOT done with The Love of God but with Legalism...Of course,there are things that do deserve Rejecting,in some Individuals with Gross-Sin but,is the thing that Serious an Issue to begin with with some of the other unfortunates that do get sadly shunned??? Sometimes,it is NOT a huge-problem at all from God's Perspective! Just my own opinion...)

  • @daleisatimpactms
    @daleisatimpactms Рік тому +13

    Why Disfellowship ???? If a person is truly bad, and living contrary to the JW doctrine, they will fade away without causing any disruption to those who wish to remain JW. Rather ... so many who are 'kicked out' are not actually bad people, but HAVE NO WHERE or NO ONE to turn to in their weakest moments. This is the most unscriptural and unkind policy in any group. This is NOT how Jesus taught. He taught by leading by example ... not by threatening !!!!!!! I know , I was there and experienced it.

    • @ChrisPyle
      @ChrisPyle Рік тому

      It’s called control. They threaten people with control over all their family and friends. Truly sick

  • @elliemay5004
    @elliemay5004 Рік тому +9

    I really enjoy your videos well explained.

  • @richbaker7187
    @richbaker7187 Рік тому +5

    The saddest part the WT's faulty policy is that they apply a scripture meant for people who are openly, or secretly SINNING. Define the sin. If a "brother" is out getting drunk repeatedly, or acting as an adulterer or any other PLAINLY understood manner that is contrary to a true Christian walk, then it wouldn't be an issue. However, they will put somebody thru this horrible policy IF THEY ARE JUST SEEKING THE TRUTH. If you find FACTS about the organization that the organization has covered up, then you are disfellowshipped for no blindly following the men that covered it up in the first place.

  • @user-TheTruth
    @user-TheTruth Рік тому +5

    Thanks for the simple explanation on forgiveness of sins !

  • @beautifulbutterflyLove
    @beautifulbutterflyLove Рік тому +2

    I remember when I was first baptized, seeing a young lady I had never seen before, sitting off to herself in the library of KH. I went over to her just because that's who I am; I'll never forget her eyes (so sad), and she said she was disfellowshipped. I touched her arm and said everything will be alright. After the meeting I didn't see her and never saw her again. One of my "friends" mentioned "didn't you know she's disfellowshipped?" I said, "I do now!" The whole concept didn't sit well with me then and now I know why; it's cruel and inhumane!

  • @shaunreneeb.1316
    @shaunreneeb.1316 Рік тому +4

    Excellent explanation and use of scripture. Thank you

  • @kevinwarren1576
    @kevinwarren1576 Рік тому +2

    Yes ! My friend ! A well thought out video, The part about you mistreating your good friend was very cruel and evil. However what you are doing now is truly Christ like and a total about face from the wickedness of your previous association. ❤👏🏿

  • @shawnewing1175
    @shawnewing1175 Рік тому +3

    Very well done video keep up the good work God bless you and yours

  • @WideAngleLuis
    @WideAngleLuis Рік тому +1

    This policy is changing for the worse in my experience. I know two sisters who were wrongfully disfellowshipped. One was disfellowshipped for acknowledging her mistake in committing fornication before marriage, literally confessed the very next day. The brother lied about the whole thing even though she told on herself and was forced to bring evidence of one of his belongings from his room. Obviously she didn’t have anything but could describe his bedroom down to the many ties he had hung up in his closet. She was disfellowshipped for not providing enough evidence and the brother remained engaged to a woman he cheated on while giving talks. He eventually confessed his sin 2 years later but the damage was already done to this poor sister. Her family abandoned her. Another sister committed fornication not even baptized. After her baptism years later and upon getting married she felt the need to bring up her sin she committed as a child because she was asked, they disfellowshipped her for withholding that information. There are several things wrong here. For 1, we are taught that you are only disfellowshipped for not being repentive of your sin. The first sister was repentive. 2, when you are baptized you are forgiven for your sins, this sister was disfellowshipped. And 3, how could she have gotten baptized if supposedly God blessed your baptism with Holy Spirit. That to me means the Holy Spirit doesn’t exist in the Watchtower organization and the elder that approve everything are lying when they say they receive Holy Spirit.

  • @phil6740
    @phil6740 Рік тому +4

    Beautiful video. I want to share one thought in line with your experience at 3:30 in the video, when you encounter someone in crisis please take a deep breathe and take the time to help then. I too have missed an opportunity because it caught me off guard or distracted or in a hurry. I have made that mistake too. I pray the next time I learned from my mistake and do my best to help.

  • @fionataylor2286
    @fionataylor2286 3 місяці тому

    Please keep doing videos,i have come upon you for a reason.

  • @kathywimer8597
    @kathywimer8597 Рік тому +3

    You are truly blessed with the gift teaching. Thank you for your time.

  • @fionataylor2286
    @fionataylor2286 3 місяці тому

    Wow you explain things so simply, thankyou.

  • @AnnC....
    @AnnC.... Рік тому +2

    Very important message, you delivered the message with awesome understanding, Thank you

  • @Charleneslife-23
    @Charleneslife-23 Рік тому +2

    Greetings my brother. Thank you for this video. Your personal best to date in my opinion.

  • @toddhayes3506
    @toddhayes3506 Рік тому +5

    RIP 🕊 to All Lives Lost

  • @symone3113
    @symone3113 Рік тому +2

    I love your video, they’re so easy to follow and easily understood..👍🏼👍🏼❤

  • @nelsonmandela411
    @nelsonmandela411 Рік тому +2

    Thanks a lot from Mexico, all best wishes for you project and professional work 😊

  • @anniesavedbygrace
    @anniesavedbygrace Рік тому +2

    My older sister was disfellowshipped twice. I was made to wait in the car with her untill after the meeting had started, accompany her to the toilet and leave at the last song, wait in the car untill mother had finished parading herself around the hall for attention. (Not even allowed to have the car heat on) all in case my sister did a runner.
    I was soft shunned from the day her disfellowshipping was announced. I was no longer invited to sleep overs, play dates, gatherings. I would be the last person 'picked' to work in field service with and would usually end up being 'the third wheel' noone wanted.
    I left unbaptised 3 years later at 17. Any wonder!!

  • @markspeary1521
    @markspeary1521 Рік тому +1

    There has been people that has committed suicide being disfellowshiped thinking they're unworthy and unloved that's not what Jesus would want which is not christian love.

  • @galaxiethinker183
    @galaxiethinker183 Рік тому +1

    You have a very calm nice nature and the way you explain biblical truths is something haughty Watchtower could from

    • @georgebrown8312
      @georgebrown8312 Рік тому +1

      You are right. Unfortunately, the Watchtower Society's Governing Body seems to be too stubborn and prideful to understand that, which, I am afraid, will be their own undoing sooner or later.

  • @susanpaine1513
    @susanpaine1513 Рік тому

    I have been out 15+ years. I don't watch videos much anymore about JW. I don't have any remaining issues and have moved on, but your video popped up and I watched it. I do like the way you present the information.

  • @JoshuaJohannes-c5u
    @JoshuaJohannes-c5u 6 місяців тому

    I recently read 1corinthians with my new born again friends..... and they imediatly understood what kind of offender excommunication may apply to... it speaks of someone who is known for their sin because it has become a life style .... not anyone who just slipped because of imperfection..... the holy spirit really helps

  • @BornAgainExJw
    @BornAgainExJw Рік тому +3

    Dude! How do we connect so I can get you on the channel for an interview (even if your screen is blacked out for anonymity) I want to share your story of coming to Christ and also promote your channel!

    • @BornAgainExJw
      @BornAgainExJw Рік тому +1

      @@lifeissimplepodcast got your email and sent you a message, letting you know in case you want to remove your email from the comment section.
      Thanks Brother, looking forward to your reply.

  • @jacquelinerodriguez5145
    @jacquelinerodriguez5145 Рік тому +2

    I love your Videos, you teach bible truths. I appreciate it very much.

  • @damonrandall9844
    @damonrandall9844 Рік тому +2

    I loved this video so much that I just had to subscribe. If JW’s would actually read their Bible the way it was read here and stop cherry picking what is literal and what is symbolic and just let the Bible speak for itself, then they wouldn’t be shunning and they wouldn’t be having half the issues that they do with governments and “apostates” that they do now. Above all, so many JW’s would still be alive.

  • @markspeary1521
    @markspeary1521 Рік тому +1

    This video is true we are sinners and nobody is Worthy that's why Jesus Christ died for are sins all we need to do is except Jesus Christ as our savior and making Jesus Lord 🙏❤️ of our lives.

  • @messageofthecross6572
    @messageofthecross6572 Рік тому +1

    Romans (4:5) is earlier in Abraham's life before Isaac was even born than James (2:14-26) which means salvation by faith alone occurs first then good works from the indwelling of the Holy Spirit result. Good works aren't for salvation they are from it.

  • @Lovealwayswins1
    @Lovealwayswins1 Рік тому

    Thank you so much!

  • @toddhayes3506
    @toddhayes3506 Рік тому +1

    Great Job Happy New Year

  • @riveravon5296
    @riveravon5296 Рік тому +1

    I like your videos, Thanks.
    You missed 2 Corinthians 2:6 about the man you referring to in 1 Corinthians.
    “Sufficient to such a man is this punishment, which was inflicted of many. “
    telling us that it was not all who punished the man and therefore it was a personal not a congregational matter.
    I’m not sure if you use the lost son in your arguing. You should anyway.
    Thanks for reminding me of the 77 times we should forgive. Excellent.

  • @lesliethomas7234
    @lesliethomas7234 Рік тому +1

    The context of the 2-witness rule "if he does not listen to you (and)) to the church", then, he is to be to YOU,, (not to all the church), as a tax-collector or a man of the nations, to whom we are all courteous. How have they twisted even the scriptures, to make their church equal to the one referred to in that passage.

  • @leejohnson6328
    @leejohnson6328 Рік тому

    no verse says not to talk to them it says do not associate. shunning does not mean not doing good to such ones . all things are in love. saying you cannot say something to them is supporting white law not the law of the Christ or the law of God. Reading 1 kings 13 really helps us to see the parameters of dealing with those who are apostate and others.

  • @Natalia143able
    @Natalia143able Рік тому +2

  • @daleprice8111
    @daleprice8111 Рік тому

    JESUS DIDN'T REJECT HIS DISCIPLES FOR THEIR SINS BUT HELP THEM OVERCOME .

  • @RedCrimson_v2
    @RedCrimson_v2 Рік тому

    Hey man Id like to suggest the NLT. I find it pretty close to the kjv and its very easy to read and understand. Im glad you didnt become an athiest or agnostic after leaving the jw cult. I have a situation in my family where my cousin who I considered my little brother joined a cult (assembly of god) and I am so heartbroken because ik just how hard it is to wake those on the inside. His cult has a lot of similarities to JW but it is worse… he doesnt believe in beards, makeup, short pants/shirts and the cherry on top is the “pastor” has control of his life. He cant have friends outside of the cult, he couldnt even SPEAK to a girl in the cult without “permission”. Couldnt be friends wo “permission”. No dating wo “permission”. Let me guess, when he finally gets to make love with another brainwashed member of the cult hes gonna have to ask permission😂. Its funny yet scary and depressing at the same time. A person who I loved dearly and had a great relationship with has been taken from me essentially the same as death… ik hes alive and well however its as if hes dead. No more texts, phonecalls and most importantly vacations and visits. He’s always “busy”. He isn’t even willing to set aside congregating for a few days to see me. He goes like 4 times a week and I’d have no problem with that if it weren’t the case that he does so put of a false sense that he MUST do it. That God will somehow look down on him for not spending half his life in a building that mind you is 1 out of TWO in the entire state of FL that teaches Christianity the way they do. But rest assured thats not a red flag because the pastor says they are the only true Christians and the only ones being saved😉Cults are REAL. Religion in the sense of deception and man-made beliefs and traditions and warping of the Word and God is REAL. Please man you and anyone reading this pray for him and his family. It happened to my family it can happen to anyone. Lookout for your loved ones and appreciate them bc you never know if a fate like this will hit close to home!

    • @RedCrimson_v2
      @RedCrimson_v2 Рік тому

      He believes essentially in works and not faith because of the having to congregate half his life, the strange dress code outside of the place mind you its insane, and that he must speak in tongues. How this smart man was duped into all this is probably the worst part. Imagine seeing everything for what it is because you are outside and away from the brainwashing and you know you cant say anything because they are taught to defend their brainwashers and if it means removing you entirely from their life they prefer the company of other brainwashed individuals over FAMILY.

  • @messageofthecross6572
    @messageofthecross6572 Рік тому

    1 Corinthians (15:1-8) Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
    For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.

  • @loripasqualino9613
    @loripasqualino9613 11 місяців тому

    70times 7do basically 490 times plus

  • @Rwdogg21
    @Rwdogg21 Рік тому

    I will speak to a df person upon waking up

  • @ok-kk3md
    @ok-kk3md Рік тому

    Hey! I am currently looking for another religion to keep my faith in. Im 14 and just left the JW cult (luckily the consenquences arent that bad so far), mind giving out a church that doesnt partake in shunning?

    • @jimmusanya5247
      @jimmusanya5247 Рік тому

      Oh that's brave of you Boy,at 14 you can make up that mind courageously,You better ask Jesus Christ as the Life, truth and way (John 14vs6).
      Jesus Christ will lead you to know Him and follow Him without lens of Governing body...Thank you.

    • @Nathaly0886
      @Nathaly0886 8 місяців тому

      Build a personal relationship with God. All religions are man made with flaws. Don't waste time seeking another religion. seek Within. Know thyself.

    • @donnykobana5209
      @donnykobana5209 7 місяців тому

      Stay in it bro. Although I'm not a JW I can tell you these other so called Christian religions are full of old lies. Please please do your research. Satan has made it extremely hard

  • @archangeljesus4369
    @archangeljesus4369 Рік тому +1

    Jehovah's Witnesses are the true congregation

    • @dwayneasher6765
      @dwayneasher6765 Рік тому

      No there not

    • @archangeljesus4369
      @archangeljesus4369 Рік тому

      @@dwayneasher6765 They are I don't care what you think

    • @robertmardis2110
      @robertmardis2110 Рік тому

      I don't think so! What scriptural basis do you have to make that claim?

    • @archangeljesus4369
      @archangeljesus4369 Рік тому

      @@robertmardis2110 Attend our services and look at us

    • @ericbulman1752
      @ericbulman1752 Рік тому

      ​@@archangeljesus4369 we see that the governing body are false teachers and that they are misleading and deceiving millions of people .that the shunning they practice is unloving and is destructive , it's emotional abuse and mental abuse and it breaks up families and friendships and does far more harm than good.

  • @loripasqualino9613
    @loripasqualino9613 11 місяців тому

    I have jehovahs witnesses after me to join them

    • @donnykobana5209
      @donnykobana5209 7 місяців тому

      I'm not a JW but have been around both JWs and Pentecostal Christians all my life. The JW religion is without a doubt the true Christian religion. They are not perfect (but who is) but the understanding they have of the Bible is without a doubt the truth. When you compare to other christian dominates who still hold on to old pagan teachings like the Trinity and Christmas it gets easy to see that . Please please do your research and if you have any questions as a JW. Even if it's a harsh one.

  • @noahkling4018
    @noahkling4018 Рік тому +1

    No it sure isn’t biblical

  • @hereticjonathan3067
    @hereticjonathan3067 Рік тому

    What blows disfellowshipping & shunning completely out out of the water is Jesus's account of the prodigal son found at Luke 15:11-32.