Martha Argerich/Charles Groves interview snippet
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Sorry about the quality. Afraid I don't have the rest.
Belated thanks to tusan15288 for the translation somewhere down there in the comments.
Should anyone wish to support or challenge my conviction that that's a colloquial arabic "ma'alaysh" at ~03:37 (frame counter ~10:09:35) please holler.
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She has such a tremendous technique, watch her play the octaves, unbelievably fast. I met her once in New York, after she played the Beethoven piano Concerto #2 with her ex-husband Charles Dutoit, We carried on quite a long conversation talking about everything, it was a real privilege to spent time with her. She is my most admired pianist next to none!!!
She is so charming and adorable. I love to watch her perform. Some people possess this magical quality that is truly magnetic, and she is one of them.
One of the best pianists of the 20th and 21st century 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Are you kidding!? Her octaves!!!!! Disturbingly amazing!!!
I think that is a ligitimate question I'm not sure why people give you the thumbs down.... . She is in my estimation the most exciting pianist alive. Very "Horowitzian" musicianship.
Yes, she does have something with octaves...:-)
Wow,
Love seeing Charles Groves.He was one of du Pre's favorite conductors.
haha thanks, I caught on in about the middle of the video. I have to start watching the whole video before I just start commenting :)
Love to see the whole interview!
I love her. She is my favorite musician in the world.
Beautifull , intelligent and talentously. Everybody woman what everybody man whould having.
The goddess.
pardon my ignorance but why do you think she's saying ma'alaysh? Does Martha speak Arabic? (she is Argentine - yes I know she's fluent in Portuguese, Spanish, French, German, English also...). It's highly unlikely that she's using an Arabic word! She is clearly saying "manage", especially as it was the word used in the question to her!
@mnemonyzz has to be the stupidest conversation i've ever stumbled upon while watching an argerich clip...
ANYWAY, martha's an absolute doll. the last 20 seconds of this clip blew me away.
Tuve la fortuna de escucharla en el palacio de Bellas Artes en México. Fue una experiencia fabulosa. La idea -entre pianistas- de que algunos conciertos no son posibles para algunas pianistas, debido al tamaño de la mano nunca más tuvo sentido para mí, después de haber escuchado a la señora Argerich.
igual los que dicen eso no entienden mucho de musica, por mas que algun pianista tenga las dedos cortos, eso simplemente lo complica para tocar ciertos temas pero no quiere decir que otros temas no los puedan tocar mejor que todos los demas... y ahi esta la cuestion, si la mayoria de tus interpretaciones son mejores que las del resto entonces sos un mejor pianista por mas que dejes de lado algunos temas.
I think you're right, she only moves her arms and hands for playing, but never the body...imagine it like this: the body is there watching the show and it's the arms and the hands that do the job...the body goes with whatever the hands and arms are doing. That's what i think...:P
Hay varias cosas qe faltan, pero lo importante creo que está:
-Empezaste a tocar el piano a una edad muy temprana; pero tu primera interpretación de este concierto fue no hace mucho tiempo.
-Sí, hace seis años, más o menos.
(discuten sobre la fecha exacta)
-Y no tuviste que aprenderlo muy rápido?
YES
Or maybe she has just really strong hands and don't need a lot of pushing or assiting from the arms at all??? Well, i've read that the gemini's body part is arms, so no wonder her arms are so noticable!
Je t'aime!
Another of her 3 husbands was Stephen Kovacevich. She's like 67 now dude and has 3 grown kids, don't waste your time, but she WAS very fly back in the 60s n stuff.
Martha was married twice. All three daughters have different dads.
She’s 81 in 2023z
@mnemonyzz
I.
I'm sorry but that's an exceedingly thin speculation. Actually no, it's not even thin, it's conjured out of thin air (forgive me for being so blunt).
"Would such an intelligent woman repeat 'manage'....?"
I think it far from implausible that such an intelligent woman might employ a figure of speech known as epanalepsis. It's when a word is repeated in successive clauses for rhetorical effect (as I did in my second sentence).
Here, Martha appears to be...
(con.)
WTF does this have to do with Martha Argerich?? She is not brazilian, and she is UNIQUE.
hi where can i find the whole interview video? thanks
.... and I'm straight, but I love her too!
Stand in line! lol...
what concerto are they talking about?
does anyone know if a full clip of this interview exists?
shes a machine
Oh lah-dee-dah...isn't it the case with everyone???
Do you think she was being arrogant? How is it bitchy what she said?
What's the name of the concert that she's playing?
Late comment as I assume you already know but it's Tchaikovsky piano concerto no.1
you are right. Please! keep making stupid comments...
I love her childlike laughs. What a lovely person.
Juan the little looks laughs. Her shyness is very cute.
She says "Basically I don't... manage... but somehow I manage". That's why she laughs, because the apparent contradiction of what she just said. No arabic at all, just "argentinian" english.
Please... dont speak any more about the origins... she is Argentine... not Croatian or Jewish or Brazilian... shhhhh!!! Just Argentine!!!
I saw Martha perform Prokofiev 3 in London last Monday... an exquisite performance as always.
I met her by chance that evening too as I was leaving a restaurant near the hall... she was charming and graceful, chatting and laughing, even taking an interest in my playing; an unforgettable experience.
She learned a piano concerto (I believe this is about Tchaikovsky concerto 1 but I’m not sure) in 3 weeks?!?! She is god
I just love how she says: "I have a thing about octaves..." ... lol quite an understatement there...
Martha Argerich's WHOLE body works in a beautifully coordinated way when she plays.
That is the case indeed, well put. Her sense of rhythm is what feeds that miraculous whole body coordination. Obviously she is as musically gifted as a musician can be. A force of nature.
I met her as well in NYC after a Beethoven Second performance! She plays that piece quite frequently. Her Beethoven is infused with her own personality and artistry and purists aren't so taken with it. But, I'm with you, she's an extraordinary artist and among those I admire most.
Turn on captions at 5:30 hahaha
The best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best best vTchikovsky octave in the world
Simply the best'
Wikipedia: Argerich (Eastern Catalan: [ərʒəˈɾik], Western Catalan: [aɾdʒeˈɾik, aɾʒeˈɾik]; modern spelling Argeric) is a noble Catalan surname from Germanic origin, also common in Argentina.
@englishplayer40 "half dead"?... Martha Argerich is not afraid of death; death is afraid of Martha Argerich.
she lovely
La, Martha ma'am t'oul "ma'laysh....
No, Martha isn`t saying "ma'laysh
Yes, I believe you're an intelligent guy, I'm glad for you, you just either need a hearing test or somewhere far more relevent to boast your command of Arabic!!
-El primer y el único ensayo.----.---.----.Nadie te cree en realidad. Todo el mundo piensa que es algo que deberías haber tocado toda tu vida. Porque es un concierto tan popular. Todo el mundo piensa bueno, debe haberlo tocado antes, pero no, ¡era la primera vez!
Her accent is not French :)
To ellinidara & Co.: She is 100% Argentinian, from Catalonian (Argerich, since 1780 arrived to BsAs) and Russian jews (Heller, since 1870 in Arg) descent.
- ----.Bueno, no quiero interrumpirte, contame cómo terminó la historia.
-Luego llegamos, muy tarde.----.---. Y tuvimos el ensayo y fue un desastre. Y luego simplemente me colapsé, y dije bueno, encuéntrenme un lugar (esta última oración nunca la entiendo).Y no sé lo que pasó. No tengo idea.
-¿Cómo te arreglás para tener tres hijos y una carrera internacional?
To be truthful I think she says 'manage', twice, which is probably why she laughs, because repetition of a same word can be humorous. Also why would she insert a colloquial arab word while speaking in english? I know in Spanish, there are quite a few arab expressions (for exampl Ojala) but you would only say them in spanish and not say them while speaking in english.
Remarkably honest and unaffected artist. Not afraid to admit she has some structural-rhythmic issues, although I think Groves might have helped her more, for example by accelerating into those octaves to synchronize better with the faster tempo she obviously wants.
WHAT year is this??? She looks about 16 years old and he says she already has babies??? I'm baffled...
-Sí, en realidad no tenía por qué, es mi culpa, porque voy dejando las cosas para último momento, y porque tengo que hacer otras cosas también, supongo, no sé, no sé por qué pasa. No soy muy organizada, en realidad. Y lo tuve que aprender en tres semanas. En el medio de otras cosas, también.
-Realmente no lo sé. En realidad no me arreglo, pero de alguna manera me arreglo. Soy muy desorganizada.
-Y te las arreglás para (ver?) a tus hijas?
-Sí, un montón.---. cuando llega la escuela es más difícil. Pero de alguna manera me arreglo.
-Pero no estás desorganizada por tus hijas, lo estarías también con la carrera únicamente.
-(??)Hubo un momento en el que estaba en japón.----. No nos veíamos nunca. Pero de alguna manera sobrevivimos.
LOL...i do have respect, i love Martha, but some1 here said that she was being bitchy and i was just asking...how so?
She's my idol! I love this woman to bits!
beautiful Martha!
Yes! she is unique and she is Argentine! not brazilian, Argentine! 100% Argentine! cough cough cough!, sorry! cough cough cough!
Argentine of Croatian origins, the result: talent beauty and character =D
Dude seriously. It's so obvious that she says manage. Not only because it sounds like manage, but also because she (undoubtedly) uses that word like three or four times in the same sentence. Also, I never heard an "L" being pronounced and instead heard an "N". I don't doubt that you are a very intelligent man, but go get your ears checked or something --__--
quien habra sido el afortunado hombre que gano tu corazon,realmente sos una mujer completa y me enorgullece saber que viviste en mi pais.gracias por el arte.
I LIKE HER A LOT INDEEED
Os homens eram todos apaixonados por ela porque Martha é inteligente capaz e discretissima.!!!
what do you mean empirical technique? Martha's movement is very economical, I agree but I think Pogorelich's is economical, as well. For instance, check out the videos of him performing the englische suiten. Of course, you seem like you know what you are talking about, however I think that Pogorelich doesnt have any technical limitations. Sorry, as you may have noticed, I'm an admirer of his.
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...altering the tone in which she pronounces "manage" in order to use the word somewhat equivocally and convey a sense of self-deprecating irony, as if to say "I don't actually manage *well*, but I suppose I manage *satisfactorily*.
She even giggles to punctuate the irony, and this all strikes me as entirely self-evident.
I mean really, where's the mystery here?
I think she says "manage", because Groves said "How do you manage"...sounds a little like ma'alaiysh but in this context in doesn't make so much sense.
@mnemonyzz It's "manage". If you shut out all external sounds (I use a high-quality set of headphones), it's very clear. It's not really close to the Arabic pronunciation of "Ma'alaysh", and it wouldn't make sense for her to say "never mind" there. Of course, you're welcome to continue to believe that she said "Ma'alaysh", but I don't even know where she would have gotten "Ma'alaysh" from, let alone felt like using it.
supreme human being; I kneel before you.
Why all the discussion about if she says "manage" or something else? Her laugh is pure MAGIC.
She's saying "manage." It's just her accent, jesus christ. English isn't her native language.
And furious when playing the piano!
one more time ... i love this woman
I think ivo's finger position also has to do with his hands, they are very large, that's why he has to curl his fingers more than the avg. pianist. To say that his technique is horrible is absurd. His technique is brilliant. There are different approaches, there's no such thing as the "right" approach. By the way, you do know that Argerich declared Ivo to be a genius at the 1980 Chopin competition? So, it seems that she doesnt have any issues with his technique. Game. Set. Match.
Pogouldiwitz
3min08, j'aime bien le chef qui met sa main dans sa poche !
Uhm she just says manage twice, that's also the reason why it was funny and she laughs. I think you just heared it wrong the first time and once you hear it a certain way it's very difficult to listen to it objectively again.
Y yo estaba haciendo todo lo posible para no llegar: quería parar, tenía que tomar algo, tenía que comer algo, luego quería... No quería que llegara. Y luego llegó la policía, porque él se estaba apurando demasiado. Él estaba totalmente dispuesto a llegar al ensayo. Entonces llegó la policía, por la velocidad.---.Algo increíble!
-Y ese fue el primer ensayo..
omg, no one get mad at me, but i didn't know she speaks english, i'm so glad i dont have to learn spanish or french to communicate with her, when i meet her! :)thank u for posting this!!!
Without supreme technique one can't express one's musical sense, especially at Pogo's level. Anyway, it's pointless to debate something that is subjective, each person will always stick to their opinion. Technique's purpose is to serve the music, on it's own it only provides a primitive form of pleasure.
Pogouldiwitz.
when was this interview?
I gotta say that in England at least (not sure bout other dialects) that the sentence she said with two manages is totally legitimate. It's like a sort of subtle joke, which is bloody impossible to explain, but people would know where you were coming from nonetheless.
his belly is up in her face in the beginning
-Demasiado rápidas, recuerdo que mientras dirigía pensaba "no estaré yendo demasiado rápido para Martha" luego pensé "no vayas demasiado rápido".
-Tengo algo con las octavas. Si estoy escuchando que llega. Después pienso "uh, qué voy a hacer?". Y me pongo nerviosa, y en lugar de... porque no tengo miedo a la velocidad, todo lo contrario. La velocidad es mi problema.
-Sí, totalmente de acuerdo.
-La mayoría de la gente no se da cuenta de lo que significa aprender ese concierto en tres semanas.
-Sí, si querés que te diga estaba aterrada, además. No sólo por eso, sino otras cosas. Dos días después, tenía que tocar otro concierto por segunda vez.----. Y realmente fue algo que... no recuerdo cómo hice. Fuimos Charles, mi ex marido, teníamos un auto muy lindo y rápido, y había que llegar al ensayo a las dos de la tarde, creo.
She's very talented playing the piano, and speaking French, English and Spanish.
Baremboin also, he speaks five languages =D
She also speaks Italian and German, and does interviews in both.
@faraz1729 Hello once again, Faraz.
I like your most recent channel design. Few things are easier on the eyes than a clear picture of the young Martha.
im in love
Great! I've really enjoyed watching this, thank you!
04:59! "What?! Am I too fast?!" :D
And she left the jury in protest when he was not declared the winner.
Ugh, that made less sense than I'd hoped. It was written on a mobile, sorry :(
she's got that mad genius look...a bit scary...eccentric.
@polymath7 No mystery. Idolaters performing theology on the interview.
No big.
do you know when was the Tchaikovsky 1st piano concerto recorded in this interview ?
or which year is this interview dated ?
anw, i love Martha Argerich :x
-Volviendo a Tchaikovsky, hay algunos puntos que quisiera destacar. Sabés que tus octavas...
-Aah sí, ¡El tempo anterior!
awesome moment at the very end when from super speed she changes to slow....i thought the movie was playing faster!
@andreea140794 Tchaikovsky piano concerto #1
Kadir, it's Tchaikovsky's 1st concerto.
so I mean's - no, it's not just you.